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Karen Huger Is Free at Last | The Grande Dame Comes Home RHOP Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise can
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  Speaker 2: Bell collect him. Every episode, we recap reality television from
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  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset
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  Speaker 2: in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space
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  Speaker 2: or scripted as well.
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  Speaker 1: So rain Drops.
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  Speaker 2: It has been confirmed that married to medicine star Quad
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  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend King are officially broken up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: News came out yesterday because King, who I just found
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  Speaker 2: out today through quat statement. His name is Kirk, not
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  Speaker 2: to be confused with Rashida's man. Okay, because I'm never
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  Speaker 2: leaven hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do denout appreciate it, okay whom.
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  Speaker 2: King responded to a female's comment on his page that said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, while you look good, Quad is a lucky woman,
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  Speaker 2: and he responded her luck ran out.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Then another person asked that they were together, and he
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  Speaker 2: said that I left the situation.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: After that, today, Quad released a statement to TMZ and
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  Speaker 2: I want to be able to read it ver batam,
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  Speaker 2: and before I read it, I do want to say
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  Speaker 2: this though, I thought quads response was very, very grown, mature,
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't think it was messy and it could
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  Speaker 2: have been just based on how I felt.
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  Speaker 1: King broke the news to his followers yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: So in a statement, Quad said, Kirk and I mutually
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  Speaker 2: decided to bring our relationship to a close in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: While our time together compass.
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  Speaker 2: Meaningful moments, that chapter of my life has now concluded.
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  Speaker 2: I wish him well in twenty twenty six. I'm focused
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  Speaker 2: on moving forward with clarity and purpose.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for your support. I thought I was mature.
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  Speaker 2: And Dustin, based on you being of an avid married
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  Speaker 2: to medicine watcher, are you surprised that Quad and King
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  Speaker 2: did not make it?
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  Speaker 5: Only because I feel like Qui really made an investment
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  Speaker 5: in making sure that they made it. She waited a
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  Speaker 5: year to tell people that she even had a damn man,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Then she you know, slowly
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  Speaker 5: brought him into her professional world on married to medicine,
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  Speaker 5: and that's how we all were introduced to.
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  Speaker 6: Him, found out about him what he does.
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  Speaker 5: You know, all the details and shit through that, so
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  Speaker 5: only because I know it seemed that she was really
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  Speaker 5: serious about making that relationship work. It didn't seem like
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  Speaker 5: somebody she was casually dating, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And so she seems to be a pretty driven person.
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  Speaker 5: She's always been ambitious, and I know that she made
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  Speaker 5: a valiant effort to make that relationship work. I would
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  Speaker 5: assume that I don't know that because I don't know Quy,
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  Speaker 5: but I would assume that she made a valiant effort.
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  Speaker 5: So for that in that vein, I am surprised. But
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  Speaker 5: the Quid statement, You're right, it was mature. It was
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  Speaker 5: also succinct. Okay, Qui said everything that needed to be
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  Speaker 5: said in that statement. And the fact that we found
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  Speaker 5: out that anything was even going on between them, I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure people was making assumptions, you know, for whatever reasons.
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  Speaker 5: But he kind of introduced the fact that they broke
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  Speaker 5: up to her audience, you know what I'm saying, because
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  Speaker 5: we were introduced to him through her, And so the
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  Speaker 5: fact that Quai never even said anything, I just don't
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  Speaker 5: think there's a story there. Personally, Qua's message, herb statement
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  Speaker 5: was really complete to me.
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  Speaker 6: They adn't really leave room for anything else.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that she's just ready to move on,
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  Speaker 5: and the fact that she included dates. She said that
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  Speaker 5: they ended their relationship in twenty twenty five, and she
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  Speaker 5: said that this is what she wants to do moving
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  Speaker 5: forward in twenty twenty six. I just don't give a
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  Speaker 5: fuck personally, I'm just speaking for myself. I don't care
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  Speaker 5: nothing about why they broke up or then breaking up
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  Speaker 5: at all.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still going to follow Qua's journey on married to
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  Speaker 5: Medicine and see how her story ends up. And I'm
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  Speaker 5: ready to move on, you know, And I think she
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  Speaker 5: kind of is too, based on the nature of her statement.
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  Speaker 5: So I just don't think there's no there's not like
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  Speaker 5: a smoking gun that I'm just ready to move on.
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  Speaker 5: I really honestly don't care. If I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 5: be rude, I just don't give a fuck. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: just saying, yeah, sorry, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Just not get a new man, like, let's just move on,
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. I've been around Kawhi. We
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  Speaker 4: was all in Ghana a few years ago. The QUI
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  Speaker 4: will have no problems. Gorgeous, lady, cool shit, fun to
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  Speaker 4: hang with. She will have no problems. The fact that
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  Speaker 4: she waited to introduce the world to him, and you
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  Speaker 4: know she was measured. She's she's a vet. She knows
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  Speaker 4: that she can't just pop up on TV with someone
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  Speaker 4: because there's in Atlanta, especially, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that's gonna pretend to love you to get on television.
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  Speaker 4: Not saying he was doing that, but you have to
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  Speaker 4: like wait a little while before you make sure. I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing that he was in doctor Simone's comments leaving comments
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  Speaker 4: like kind of being messy and stuff about that have
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  Speaker 4: some class because by her response and her statement, you think, wow,
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  Speaker 4: we don't really know who broke up with who. She's
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  Speaker 4: not putting a blame, she's not trashing him, she's not
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  Speaker 4: dragging him. She kept it very cute. Him doing this.
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  Speaker 4: At first I thought maybe he broke up with her
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  Speaker 4: and she's giving one of those it was mutual. But
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  Speaker 4: now the fact that he's in comments is giving me
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  Speaker 4: he's being very petty and thank the woman that give
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  Speaker 4: you a national platform. Keep it cute, there's no need
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  Speaker 4: to do. I hate when people do this after a relationship.
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  Speaker 4: I really really do. I really I think it's tacky.
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  Speaker 4: Likes you're going on her platform her castmates, her people
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  Speaker 4: that you met through her, and like dragging someone that
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  Speaker 4: brought you into that circle. I don't think that's cute
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  Speaker 4: at all. Dude, a monkst your circle? Oh you don't
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  Speaker 4: have a circle?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, That's kind of where I'm with it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I feel like even giving it any You can
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  Speaker 5: tell the intention of a statement by what it is, right,
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  Speaker 5: and I feel like even feeding it in any way
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  Speaker 5: is just feudile, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 5: not really interested in analyzing what he said or did
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  Speaker 5: or any of that. I'm more interested in what Quid
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  Speaker 5: does next personally, I guess that's around that with it,
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  Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, there's no secret I am friends with Quad.
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  Speaker 2: I've been friends of Quad for over a decade. She
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  Speaker 2: is a great woman. I thought her statement was a
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  Speaker 2: class act to say the least. I think Quad is
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  Speaker 2: a classy woman who definitely wanted.
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  Speaker 1: To make sure that her reality was shown.
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  Speaker 2: And this is one thing I will let the world
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  Speaker 2: know about Quad Web that woman.
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  Speaker 1: When she's in love with.
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  Speaker 2: You, watch out because she will give you everything in
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  Speaker 2: that relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I don't know much of what happened. It
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  Speaker 1: is not my business.
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  Speaker 2: But what I will say is, as an avid viewer
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  Speaker 2: of Mariti Medicine, we have seen this woman go through
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  Speaker 2: a divorce that wasn't pretty right. We have seen this
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  Speaker 2: woman deal with friendships on the show that wasn't pretty right.
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  Speaker 2: We have seen this woman really, you know, go on
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  Speaker 2: a couple of trips on this show and do it alone.
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  Speaker 1: And Claudia, you know how it is.
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  Speaker 2: To be on a reality show where people be like,
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  Speaker 2: where's your man at, you know, as a way of.
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  Speaker 1: You know, throwing shade.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that she dated this man for a
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  Speaker 2: year because she wanted to make sure that this was it.
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  Speaker 2: And one thing I will give quad, which is why
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  Speaker 2: she is one of the greatest reality stars who have
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  Speaker 2: ever been on television, is the fact that she poured
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  Speaker 2: her heart off this season with her ivy of journey
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  Speaker 2: going to Ghana and you you you saw the real
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  Speaker 2: conversations that they were were having as a couple.
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  Speaker 1: You saw how she broke down when the eggs didn't
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  Speaker 1: then take it, you know, like really a real heart
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  Speaker 1: felt conversation.
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  Speaker 2: My entire heart goes out to her because I know,
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  Speaker 2: as a tourist woman that she is, she loves hard
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  Speaker 2: and I am sad for any of my friends to
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  Speaker 2: end the relationship. But what I will say is she
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  Speaker 2: is a classy woman. I love the fact that me
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  Speaker 2: and her, Me and Quad talk all the time, and
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  Speaker 2: she didn't tell me, So I want the world to
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  Speaker 2: know that wasn't like.
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  Speaker 1: She called me and said, bitch, guess she didn't tell me.
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  Speaker 2: And I know her and I kind of suspected something's
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  Speaker 2: going on. But when you're one of my girls, I
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  Speaker 2: wait for you to come to me, especially if you're
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship.
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  Speaker 1: So look, I met King. King.
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  Speaker 2: King was very nice when I met him. I like
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  Speaker 2: you too, Destiny Claudia. I was surprised that he felt
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  Speaker 2: the need to respond to it because this is quat platform,
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  Speaker 2: but hey, maybe he just felt the need to say something.
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  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I thought Quad statement was a class actor
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  Speaker 2: and my heart goes off to her.
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  Speaker 4: Hellos, the rangedrops are saying that he responded in your comments.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that's been there on the show. Maybe check that
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  Speaker 4: when you get a chance.
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  Speaker 6: We don't give a fuck. We don't care what he
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  Speaker 6: got to say.
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  Speaker 5: We don't give a damn about Quad did not respond
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  Speaker 5: to the things that he said.
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  Speaker 6: That is the biggest clue for us. All right, now
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  Speaker 6: you can swipe you did that comment?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm saying again using her people, her friends,
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  Speaker 4: the circle that she brought him into to trash, to
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  Speaker 4: talk ship or whatever. I haven't seen the comment, yep,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that would piss me off. Like, ay, man,
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  Speaker 4: don't be the only comments that my friends.
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  Speaker 6: Don't breathe an ounce of life into any of that.
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  Speaker 4: Twelve followers.
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  Speaker 5: Let's just let's just move on. He getting way too
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  Speaker 5: much attention. Let's talk about quad.
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  Speaker 6: She looked good on Sherry. Did you see what she
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  Speaker 6: had on on Sherry?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Her bathing suits.
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  Speaker 4: Member, I'm gonna tell you right now, ladies, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 4: always wary of man with these these names that are
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  Speaker 4: very aspirational. It's though it's not their for what they
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  Speaker 4: would name. I remember I met a guy named Adonna's
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  Speaker 4: one time. He was one of the ugliest people I've
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  Speaker 4: ever met in my life. I could not believe it, Like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, your parents set you up. He had his
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  Speaker 4: hair jelled forward and a Caesar cut was thin right here.
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  Speaker 4: So King Adonna's all these kind of you know, bigger
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  Speaker 4: than life, larger than life names, it's a lot to
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  Speaker 4: live up to. I'm just saying, like, if my name
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  Speaker 4: was queen, you'd be like, okay, really like you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, it's a lot to live up to.
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  Speaker 4: Beware you heard it here. First, don't take kings. And
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  Speaker 4: he had green contact in and he was so sheet
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  Speaker 4: greasy and shiny. Ough adna's your mama lied to you?
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  Speaker 2: Honey Lord, have birdsy onh be loy, have bussy be
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a jaf action that's like them parents that
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  Speaker 4: tell their kids, oh, everyone's a winner. No they're not.
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  Speaker 4: I do not do purple ribbons. It's red, white and blue.
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  Speaker 4: First place is blue, second is red. There are places white,
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  Speaker 4: some other antillary colors and places participation trophies. I'll make it.
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  Speaker 4: I'll ruined America. Everybody think, David, I'm here to know
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: you're not. No, you're not. Sit down.
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  Speaker 1: Claudia is the best.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody said us, like you know your child princess, and
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like really, okay, moving on to Claudia's cousin,
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  Speaker 2: Juice Dora.
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  Speaker 4: Me and Michael Jordan's cousin, Right.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Solway, Barbara Jordan. Now to that.
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: What about Barbara Jordan's You know it's Black History Month, goddamnit?
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  Speaker 4: And Eric Benet Jordan's another one is his middle name.
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  Speaker 4: That's our cousin too. We'll see you at the family reunion.
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  Speaker 6: You got your coming, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Host it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you got.
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  Speaker 1: So, Claudia cousin. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So, Juice Dour and Kelly Perrell from the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 2: of Atlanta had a comedic feud over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: So Dustin and Claudia Juici Dora, come get your batty chain.
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  Speaker 6: Because I.
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  Speaker 1: Am official.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say this, and I'm gonna tell the story.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very honest.
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  Speaker 2: When Juice Dour first came on Atlanta Housewives, I was like, hmmm,
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  Speaker 2: in the word of safety rush, Yeah you know.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't. But I told you this in our one
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  Speaker 1: on one interview. I wasn't into it. So I thought
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  Speaker 1: you was giving me Lifetime Movie of the Week, a T. D.
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  Speaker 1: Jake special. Do you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Have you ever been so?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: So I thought it was living acting.
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  Speaker 2: And then I felt that Drew found her footing. And
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  Speaker 2: when I say to you, Mama, Juice, So Dora is
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  Speaker 2: a formidable opponent on Atlanta Housewise, I am telling you
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  Speaker 2: for the past couple of seasons, I Carlos King am
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  Speaker 2: endorsing Juice Dora as the girl to watch. She is
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  Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise and what she did over the weekend
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  Speaker 2: has proven that this woman has staying power. Or her
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  Speaker 2: day off, Juice Dora decided to take her children to
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  Speaker 2: get something to eat. She stopped by Kelly Farrell's I
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  Speaker 2: Love Kelly too, Nana's chicken and waffos.
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  Speaker 7: She took out her iPhone, hit the record button. And
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  Speaker 7: one thing about Drew, she's a great actress. So Drew
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  Speaker 7: looks so concerned as she's battling the snow and her hunger,
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  Speaker 7: and she is looking.
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  Speaker 8: Around saying, Hi, you know, my kids are hunk. I'm hungry,
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  Speaker 8: you know, I said, Mama, let me talk some brother food.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm out side now a chicken and waffles and
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  Speaker 8: the doors closed and it's not open for business. Kelly,
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  Speaker 8: where are you? I thought you had a business.
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  Speaker 1: You're not here. It's so sad. I was hungry and
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to support you. Baby took me out now.
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  Speaker 2: With that being said, Kelly Farrell responded, and she said, dusted.
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  Speaker 1: And Claudia drowning. Drew, thank you for the drive by.
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  Speaker 2: While that location is being relocated, our McDonough restaurant is open, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the same one where we filmed, and I personally made
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  Speaker 2: sure you and your entire family left fed for free.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: You're scrambling for a storyline. We know you gave nothing
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  Speaker 2: all season.
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  Speaker 1: Fortunately I'm not available.
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  Speaker 2: I actually have real life things going on, So continue
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  Speaker 2: with the low budget movies.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, hold on now, hold on, let me.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're about to be Carlos kept to Drews.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I can.
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  Speaker 4: Only dream to be that much as an advocate.
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  Speaker 1: I I another eight a half to it. Okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: because I know you this is reality with the King,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, she goes, So continue with the low budget movies,
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  Speaker 2: paid promo tours and imaginary business ventures. If you ever
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: plan on opening up an actual business, let me know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll consider supporting in real life.
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  Speaker 2: Until then, keep my name out of that dry mouth
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  Speaker 2: of yours. Maybe you can get a man that actually
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  Speaker 2: claims you.
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  Speaker 1: PS. This is the weird shit that Drew does. Call
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  Speaker 1: me next Timbo.
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  Speaker 5: Drew one with all that all over the place shit.
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  Speaker 5: And I like Kelly on the show. Let me be clear,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I enjoyed Kelly on the
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  Speaker 5: I enjoyed her on season sixteen. I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 5: seeing her on season seventeen. But she wasn't talking about shit.
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  Speaker 5: She just said a bunch of She regurgitated a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of typical responses that people in the reality space used
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  Speaker 5: toward each other. Oh you was boring this season. You
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  Speaker 5: want to have a storyline.
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  Speaker 6: I was busy. I got other stuff going on.
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  Speaker 5: You ain't got no man. It was just a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of the same old, same old bullshit. Drew tore her up,
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  Speaker 5: drew his fresh face when she got on that camera
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  Speaker 5: on live pushing her hair back and shit talking about
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  Speaker 5: my kids wanted some chicken and waffles and so I
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  Speaker 5: can really support my girl, And I thought that was hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: Drew one case clothes aunt Kelly.
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  Speaker 5: And Kelly has a tendency to do to overdo, lay
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  Speaker 5: it on too thick sometimes with things okay, and this
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  Speaker 5: is one of the case scenarios where she did just that.
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  Speaker 5: Next time, Kelly just go straight to the bullseye with
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  Speaker 5: your insults, all all that extra shit is a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of nothing. And that's how Drew had a victory. Drew
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  Speaker 5: took the w in this one.
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  Speaker 4: Claudia Jordan, I think this is great for TV. In
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  Speaker 4: real life, of course you'd be like, bitch, you really
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  Speaker 4: try me like that. It wouldn't be no Instagram. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: I'm coming over, We're going to see each other, we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna talk. You try to climb my business. But it's
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  Speaker 4: for TV. For TV. I like it for TV because
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: now they have something to be bitter or angry about
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: when there's coming see I like both these ladies. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: think that Drew. Of course, Drew started it and she
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: went looking for a little smoke, and she she gave
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: exactly she got exactly where she wanted a response. Kelly
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: started off very strong. If I'm going to analyze to read,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: analyza read with Claudia Jordan's analyzed to read came out
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: the gate tens tens tens bam, bam, bam, bam bam.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: But where she lost it, much like in My beefs,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: is when she got too emotional. And if you whoever
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: stays calm and then check of the emotions wins. I
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: think the more the longer Kelly's response went, it showed
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: that she was really mad. You know, like when I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: tell my friends, when you're arguing with your boyfriend and
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: you want to write him along paring of and another thing,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: bring up everything he ain't reading. Now you're reading the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: top line, in the last line, he's not going through
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: all that. You hit him with an opener, a middle line,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: and a closer and you're done. That seems less bothered,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: But I get Kelly was trying to put everything in
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: one email or one check. So I do think Kelly
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: gave a valiant effort. I think she you know, but
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: like you can't some'cept the more you write, the more
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you give, you open yourself for critique. Like men have
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: claimed Drew. She's had a husband and other men come
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: on the show, you know, and maybe even a woman
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: that was willing to claim Drew. Okay, so you can't.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Say that I forgot about hell.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Speaking of basketball wise, what was that she was on basketball?
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: We got the same vans and jacket.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's made her rounds on all the Award of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the Reality.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: She'd be dressing QR. I forgot the mean thing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: No, no, she does. She's listen, tis fly. I'm not
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: gonna take away, but she's definitely cross promoted. Okay, cross pollinated.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: She says she wanted she gotta smoking me. Like, girl,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: we ain't gonna fight. You just.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Want to go shopping with Ty, So I'll work all
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: that out. Okay, we and t gonna go shopping. I
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: want to shop with you, go were gonna I'm gonna
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: set a lot of that. I'm gonna be the bridge
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: for you friends.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: She didn't say nothing when she saw me out. Mm hmm.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, and I'm old that you could easily
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: take me down. Okay, let me focus. I have ADHD
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: y'all know that interest. Yeah, Like, I just like it
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: went it went long. It just went long. So yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: but but I like them both, and now I'm looking
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: forward to the season, Like what's up with Kelly and Drew?
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: It did exactly Listen, Kelly, don't be mad and Drew
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: because it kind of gave you guys a nice starting
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: point for the next season, like we wanted. Now we
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: want to know what's up?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I shout out to Drew and Kelly.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that was a nice Saturday pick
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: me up.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You all need it as we're you know, bracing the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: cold weather over the weekend. And it's what you too said,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it's it makes me long for Atlanta Housewives when I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: say to you, this is why Atlanta Housewives as a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: brand is so funny, because it's the shade meter that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: goes like this that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Makes that show great. And I I love that Drew
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: started it, and.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I love that Kelly played along with it, you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: instead of like, girl, have your moment. I like the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the fact that they both knew let's ignite this promo
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: for the upcoming season, while you know, Potomac is sort
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: of you know, sunsetting with their reunions. But I thought
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: it was fun shade, and listen, I want more of that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Speaking of fun shade, we got to get into Giselle
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: responding to Quad checking her on Watch What Happens Live
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and the rain draws we will be talking about after
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: this Karon Huger's won on one interview with Andy Cohen
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that aired last night. First Thing First, Giselle, Kobe Bryant,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and Robin Dixon on their podcast Reasonably Shady responded to
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Quad Gazelle said that during a commercial break that Quad
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: allegedly told Andy to ask her a barb Bravo Khan,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and Giselle said, when she saw that, and she obviously
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you know it was there when Quad checked her, she
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: felt that Quad came everharst and she said when it happened,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: she was like, I have nothing for you or for
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: this conversation, because.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: We were really talking about Atlanta.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And then Robin interjected and said, no, no, no, no, I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was talking about both, right, I was talking about both.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: They both felt though that they didn't understand the energy
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that was given to them, that it was really shading
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Ky Michelle and Atlanta Housewives and not necessarily Quad Dustin.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Do you buy what Gizelle and Robin areselfing?
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Hell?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: No. First of all, Giselle Robin did seem apologetic, you
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Gazelle was still she kept talking shit,
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: taking digs.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: We didn't even we didn't need to know.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: The peace about quid as they said, teeing up the moment,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: you know, telling Andy to probe her about Bravo con
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: We didn't know, We didn't to know about any of that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Jazelle still talking shit because Gazelle is embarrassed. Quiet embarrassed her,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: and watch What Happens Live because the whole world recognized
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: that as a checking okay, and so Gizelle didn't like that,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: and she did what she had every right to do,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: which is go on her platform and issue a response.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: But we are all clear on what that response was. Robin,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I felt was a little more sincere. She even went
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: so far as to apologize to the castomary to Medicine,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: and she showed them a lot of love and you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: made it clear how she felt about it being with
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: the best show on Bravo, sharing the same sentiment that
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: you have, Carlos, And I thought her response was a
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: lot more sincere and regular. But Gazelle continued to talk
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: shit the entire time, even while Robin was being apologetic.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And I don't believe for one minute that she knew
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: what the tea up was from Quid asking, And that's tee,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: not tea, what the tea up was from Quid asking her.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to asking Andy to talk
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: about Bravo Khan because Gazelle appeared completely.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Caught off guard. Will Quiet check their ass?
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: That's how we knew it was in the moment and real,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: so I don't believe that for one second.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: She'd did better.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Off just saying, you know what, we be on here
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: talking shit and maybe I just need to watch my
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: mouth a little bit, because I wasn't trying to offit her.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: So that's what I do when I get checked.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I just laugh about
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: it and do that's my way of doing it. You
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So that's how That's what I think.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Jesselle was embarrassed and Robin kept it real.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Claudia her response.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Their response should have been, the podcast is called reasonably shady,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: so guess what, some nights we're going to be shady.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: You don't come to the show for political correctness, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: come for the shade. That's the branding. They should have
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: leaned in and been like, yes, we were being shady,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: but I will. I know a lot of people don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: like Robin. I'm happy to not be one of them.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I actually like her because I don't know her from
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: the show. I wasn't watching when she was on. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: went to lunch with dinner with her, drinks after, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I really liked her. And what I saw in my
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: one on one with her was exactly how she, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: conjucted herself with her response stood on business. She accepted
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: what she said, she cleaned it up and actually showed love.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: She showed it, but she wasn't. It didn't come off
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: to me like she was a punk, and she didn't retreat.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: She said, well, you know, and she explained it. And
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: then Gay Props gave another show props saying they're the
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: best show on the network. I thought that would so fly.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: The way she handled the situation, I think it showed
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that she don't worry about what you think about her.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: It is what it is. I'm gonna clarify. And then
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I love how she gave props to Mariti Medicine because
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I agree with her, and I thought that was ope
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: And actually it actually made Giselle look a little smaller,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: and it made Robin look bigger and accountable and also
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: like more credible.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think listen is what you
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: said to Dustin and Claudia saying too.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Look, I can't tell you how many times I've been
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: chin checked in public or receive their phone call or
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: a d M. I was telling Dustin behind the scenes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I can call him aout Dustin and but the thing
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: about is this, and look, we'll get to my call
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Laudia second.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: But I get about Dustin are always funny. They never
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: disrespect him because I will always check them if they
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: disrespected him, and it's never disrespecting. It always surprises me
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that they are so fascinated with his POV that they
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: are just.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Like, well, that's not true, he got it wrong. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's his opinion. But they're laughing the whole time.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: No with me, they're like, fuck that bitch, Why should
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: you You're supposed to be my friend. No, I because
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Dustin find he's man and like he's fine, So it's okay.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I just give a look to something. Look at Claudia Hayten.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: She want to be back on the show. Said the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: same thing they say. But I ain't as fine as
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: him in a way.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: God damn. There may be a lot of housewife one
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: or two that you know. I don't know.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck, Okay, friend, I really don't.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all know my demon here, I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: in my villain era. I do not.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: I said that, you say, I'm start saying tiga instead of.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Oh the em word. Oh yeah, because that's for my peoples.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: But the reality they get smoked happy black.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Especially during February. I'm of a frame July is on them.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. If I told the rain drops
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: my Stacey Rush story.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: That happened, I gotta DM her too.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Please do Okay?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: So when I interview Stacey and name her the reality
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: start of the year in twenty twenty five, I thought
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: we were recording where we weren't souse, I would have
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: posted it because she was fine with it. Stacy watches
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Live. So hi's Stacy Rush.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And she said, in.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Her very stacy way, where's Claudia?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Where is she? Is? She not here? I said, ma'am,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: dallat's be talking about she goes. I have a bone
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to pick with Claudia. I said, what blaa she goes.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I just feel like she.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: You know, talking about Temu and saying something about my man.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I'm heard, and I said, Claudia.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But my point is Stacey was so funny with it,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and she she literally said to me and I will
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: never forget this, and I I.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Want all of this from my reality stars.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Stacy Russ that I love reading me tweets about me.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny. She said, I love watching you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: DestinE to Claudia. Y'all keep it real. I may disagree
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: with you. I want you to face on Claudia so
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: we could get a kick out of it. So my
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: point is, look, I believe in owning it. Robin Dixon
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: checked me a few weeks ago. I told you guys
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: about that. We all get checked, but I think it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: one of those things where you own it and you
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: just keep it, pushit.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: And Stacey, my critique was about Jermyn not you, but
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I actually adore you on the show, and I know
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: what I love not. I kind of like being wrong
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: about someone in the beginning. You know, some of my
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: best relationships with friends were with people that I'm like, oh,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I can't stand you, right, like something about them irk you,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and when you get to know them, you end up
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: really liking them, Like I can't believe I don't like you,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: or I felt a different way about you. And I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: kind of feel like that way with Stacy. Not that
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I couldn't stand her, but we definitely would Criticism for
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: her when she first started the season, and I like
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: that she changed our minds, Not that she was trying
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: to change our minds, but I like when you kind
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: of like I like people that are flexible, and I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: think everyone on this panel is pretty flexible. Especially Yeah,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you know, like we I meant physically for you, mentally
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: for us, like you know, even glowing lately.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: In position, ready for that door bell to ring.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Look at his arms back. He's like giving us di'angelo,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: how does it feel right now?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Isn't he doesn't? Dustin?
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, someone's down there the Angelo doing in the video.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Remember he was like, you'd be watching it go down it.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I'm participating to watch now like I'm in. I'm interactive.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: He's supposed to look down also talking.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Through it and then get in there. You know what
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. I'm a starter, a bench, you know what
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: I'm saying.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, any whom, we should do a special episode
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: for Patreon and talk about Nasty Ship. Claudia, you down,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: we should do an after dark episode on Patreon. Carlos
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: set that up.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe we can give some celebrity stories too. I know
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: we all have one.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: At least you.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Ain't getting somebody y'all look getting mine, But I won't
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: never say I'm here, you know that.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Not names, but we can give suggestion like we can
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: give hints.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't been hint up by celebrity.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: That's because you create celebrities, Carlos.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: Yes, claud you're sau.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Have.
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: It's a little bit different for you. Man.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it is I have. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: have a theory, but we'll talk about out patrion.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm. We're gonna do that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I really have a theory, and I think I'm right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Are you guys to be in New York Valentine's a weekend?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: H I'm busy, So Claudia, I want to get it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Where are you taking him? Where you taking him?
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: There? Through there? That's what you're taking. Go ahead, take
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: me to that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in New York, So we'll link up.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: We shall, h I might be in a fashion show
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: and then we'll you know, we'll talk after that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: It's said we're going to do something on Valentine's Night, okay,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: or the fifteenth or the fifteenth, because you'll.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Probably be busy on Valentine's side, you know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: Yes, so we'll yes, Bals this year.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Huh No, Claudia was saying, I might be busy that
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: day because you know, I believe what they ain't Valentine's
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: on the Saturday this.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Week, on Saturday night, you know, Dustin will not be available.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: He got things to do.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Dustin gonna be looking down.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Boney, hopefully you're looking around. Uh but yeah, so.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Come on, okay, anybody, let's move on.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: We're gonna have that episode all right, wrong platform, ye
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: call it, Yeah, we should, let's do it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Let me know the comments that y'all want a three
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: some series on Patreon.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: You can bring all your sexual deviant cast members on there,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: like Marcel.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, what we're doing, we don't want nobody being no crew.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: If we we're gonna talk about that, we want the
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: audience to understand and watch them because we're gonna go there,
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, So like, just be prepared
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: for us to have that conversation.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: We keep trying to get them to the promis Land
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: with this New York show, right like.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: With this TV show. That's what the New York is
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: just one thing we want.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: We want a table, we want coffee mud and we're
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: not getting off of it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Carlo.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: There's a space right now. They're canceling shows up the right, which.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Is crazy coffee mugs and card no cards, Carlos, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: think about Carlos king.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I'm always working, even when you guys don't think.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So you don't you know me? Well, y'all know is working.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: We just hurry out.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Because I was like fifty percent of my crypto currency
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: because they used to be popping in my account. Now
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: my point.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So look, I'm glad we're we're having a good time,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad we're laughing and joking, you know, because
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: now was the time to get into Cameron Huger's one
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: on one special with Andy Cohen that was promoted as
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the finale for the Real Housewives of Potomac. I have
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: lots of thoughts about this, but of course I'll reserve
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: my judgment until I hear Claudia and Dustin talk.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But to recapture you guys, as you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Ought know, Karen Huger was sentenced to jail or a dui,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: and she got off for good behavior, and the cameras
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: literally followed Karen leaving the president entering the black car
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and going home.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And then a week later she said down with Andy Cohen.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: So in this moment, you know, she gets out, she
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: makes sure that the driver slows down because she wanted
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: to roll down the window to wave about her fans.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: She did that, and then she decided to go home
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to see Raven, her sister in addition to her husband Ray.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: They talk about her jail house braids.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: It was a very listen it was let me just
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: let me just say what I have to say that
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I'm out. Y'all know, I'm obsessed with this genre of
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: reality television. I was talking to have them last week
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and before we did our Ameritive Medicine recap, she said,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you love this shit, don't you? And I was like,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: you have no idea, you know, like you know how
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like some people love sports and they're like sportsman or whatever.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I am the biggest fan of reality television, right.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I will say this.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: It was the first time for me I felt very
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable watching something. And although although truth moment, I would
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: have as a producer done the same thing, get the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: cameras and follow I would have done the exact same thing. Yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: watching her and I'll get to the one. I'll get
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: to the one on one interview later. I'll state my
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: opinion now about her going home. I I did not
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: need to see that. I felt it was something that
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: she should have had privately.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: To absorb with her family, to go through.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Something so horrific and to get out of it, and
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: there's cameras in your face, and they're in the car,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and you go home and the first time you're seeing
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: your husband, your daughter, and your sister, there's cameras in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: your face it and again there's certain people like Teresa
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Judies when she did it, it was something felt different
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: about that. It was something different about Karen and I
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: don't and I have my thoughts about that, but I'll
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: just say I did not need to see it, and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: it made me feel very sad for her that she
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: had to share that moment with us.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: It seemed to me like she had no choice, like
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: this is maybe one of the conditions of her coming
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: back that she had to give this interview, you know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. I'm just going
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: by my gut like watching it, because clearly she's made progress,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: but not all the way right. It seemed like she
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: has a tough time admitting to the alcoholism, but a
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: less tough time admitting to the addiction to prescription drugs
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: because someone else prescribed them. So it's like not really
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: my fault as much, you know what I mean. And
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: that was kind of sad to see, Like it seemed
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: like it really bothered her to really own the alcohol
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: alcoholism part of the illness that she has. And you know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: when they played the clips back of her just their
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: arrest and the wig back, it was like a cringe. Cringe.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: But I do also want to stay as part of
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: being in the reality game, I guess, But she wasn't
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: protected at all for sure. They weren't trying to protect her.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: They were trying to have a show that I get
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: good ratings. And I guess on the business side, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: see it. But if she was one of my friends,
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, damn, girl, ion't do that, because like
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: it did feel uncomfortable, like her talking on her husband,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: all of it. But it's kind of like Gladiator, Are
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: you not entertained? People say they want to see elevated
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: things and they don't want to see the fighting and
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: the negative that the names eat it up. But it
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: did feel a little bit like blink twice girl, if
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: you don't really want to do this interview, and then
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: making you do it as part of the conditions for
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: coming back, right.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: And I'll say this, obviously she got Listen, she's a
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: reality star. She got paid to do it, and she
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't working for close to a year. And listen, I
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: understand her decision for saying yes to it because she
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: got paid.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: She got paid to show her reality.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm not mad at it that it was at
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was her choice. Again,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: me watching it, I just didn't feel like the person
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I saw was ready to show the world who she was.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm only sticking to the moment she saw her husband, sister,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and daughter. But Dustain, what were your thoughts on Karen
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: released from prison?
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: You know, I actually disagree with you Carlos and you
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Claudia on this one. I thought that that was the
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: reallyt shit we ever seen from Karen.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Karen is a person who runs away from transparency in
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: some setting. Sometimes she's too real and too raw and
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: that's why we love her. And other times she's evasive
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: about certain shit and vague about certain shit. This seeing
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: her exit, her paying her debt to society, which she did,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, her watching her make that exit,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: seeing her go home and be reintroduced to her family again,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: who we know how strong, how strongly she loves them.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Seeing her sister there. I'm a person that's very close
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: with my brother and my sister. Y'all know that, and
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: so seeing her sister there that I could tell that
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: was real as hell, the way her sister was convicted
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: and sitting there with a silent strength to her, a
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: quiet strength to her. And we were introduced to her
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: sister Bridget through Karen's project about the family house in
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Suri that they had the three episodes spent on for
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: we remember these characters. I thought it was special that
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: we got a change to hear what her son Brandon
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: had to say. He typically does not it's not involved.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say whether he wants to or not,
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: because I don't know, but he's typically not involved in filming.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I thought it was it was great to get his
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: perspective on his mom's time, his experience related to that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I thought that it was great. I think that the
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: element here that makes it uncomfortable for you, Carlos, youu
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Claudia ain't even meet to a degree, is the fact
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: that Karen is a woman of a certain age, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: if you raise right, it's just certain shit you don't
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: like seeing older people doing it, and certain vulnerabilities you
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: don't like seeing them have. And that's what that was.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Karen wringing her hands in the car and all of that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: We wanted to support her, We wanted to soothe her,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: We wanted to shield her. That's why y'all use the
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: word protected, even though what did she need to be
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: protected from? Right Like, she was going to the safest
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: of places for her home with her family, So it
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: wasn't that she we needed to protect her from anything.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: But we just feel that because we're good people and
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: we don't like seeing older black people, older people in general,
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: in vulnerable situations like that where they're not safe and comforted.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: So I think that was the thing for us.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: But as far as the scene itself, I'm really grateful
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: that Karen was like even willing to show it. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: know she got a heavy bag to do that, Okay,
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: I ain't no question about it. She made a bag
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: to do that, and I don't think she was forced
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: to do nothing she didn't want to do. She seemed
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: really present. She seemed forthcoming as much as Karen Kugar
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: would be. So I thought she was cool and I
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: was happy to see her go home. I didn't want
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: to know her. I didn't want to know that she
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: was in a facility like that anymore. I was happy
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: to see her enter her home. So that's how I felt.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: It was definitely good TV. But I was just thinking about, like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: she's not ready to accept that alcoholism part of her,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: and that's the part that was the part that cringe.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's get into that.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So they shot her immediately getting out of prison.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: She went home.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: They saw her embrace her family at one point, Karen,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: which was the moment that I was like, yeah, girl,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I get you.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: She was like, what I want it, y'all done?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I gotta shower the jail off of me. I gotta
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: shower the jail off of me. And she went upstairs.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And I love the fact that production said, Okay, bye,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: do your thing. I also love the fact that it
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: gave her a week. I want to tell a production,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: we're giving her a week to do the one on
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: one interview.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I'll show my thoughts about her there later.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: But in the one on one interview a week at
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: after her release, they.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Get right into it and they start.
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: Immediately talking about the footage of Karen's arrest and if
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: she saw it, and Karen admitted that she did not
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: want to see it, and her lawyers did advise her
• 45:19
  Speaker 9: to take the plea deal because they saw the footage
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: and they pretty much said to her, in paraphrasing, this.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Is damning evidence. This is damning evidence, and you should
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: take the plea deal. She did not want to do it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: She said she saw it for the first time in
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: court and for her, she knew, like I'm in deep
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: trouble the sort of denial that she was in. Claudia,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: what what did you make of the fact that she
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: admitted to being in such denial that she didn't want
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: to see the footage, and so much so that she.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Talked about how she was.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Not just under the influence of alcohol, she was under
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the influence of prescription drugs.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think she was trying to.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Not accept the fact that the alcoholism is the main
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: factor inarrent situation.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I do, because I feel like alcoholism is not something
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: you could put on a doctor alcoholism is something that
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: is a you thing. You decide to get the bottle,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: you decide to drink, you decide to get behind the
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: wheel of a car. That's all you. Now. When you
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: say it's a prescription drug problem, you could also say, listen,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I was injured, I got prescribed these things. The doctor's
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: kind of their fault. They did this to me, like
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: they a little bit. You're not owning all of it, right,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: because you can't just get a prescription drug on your
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: own prescription. You have to have a doctor do it
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: with you for you. So I think in her mind
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: is probably a little bit more shame associated with being
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: an alcoholic as then there is to be addicted to
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: prescription drugs.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I think that's more of like a high society kind
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: of diagnosis. It's less, you know what I mean, It's
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: more like you know, the that's like a rich person saying,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: like prescription drugs. So, no, I had a back injury
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: and I got addicted to OPIOI it's because of my
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: back as opposed to, hey, I was going through it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: So I just got a bottle of you know, Mad
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Dog twenty twenty, and I just couldn't stop it's two
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: different things, I think in her mind, but really it's
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: the same. Addiction is addiction and self medicatd she admitted
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: to self medicating, and then she alluded to, you know,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: sexual abuse in the past, and I get that a
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: lot of us can understand that and relate to that.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: But Karen and I just want you to know, like
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: it's we're not gonna well, I'm I don't think anyone
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: here is gonna judge you any less for having an addiction.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Addiction is addiction, whether you're self medicating through prescription drugs
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: or alcohol. It's too dull, some kind of pain like
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: that is the problem that needs to be addressed, right
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: because it's gonna always be, you know, a substance. But
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I think she thinks it's a little classy or maybe
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not in her mind, but as an
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: outsider looking in, I think that's maybe she thinks it's
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: like a less like I don't know, derogatory diagnosis, a
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: less negative thing to be prescription drugs instead of alcohol.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Dustin, do you think Karen was trying to downplay her
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: alcoholism by mentioning prescription drugs and even saying that she
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: prefers narcotics anonymous versus alcohol anonymous.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: I think that from her years on the show, we
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: know that people calling her a drunk is a trigger
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: for her, you know what I'm saying. That's why they
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: will always weaponize it and use it. We remember people
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: to Giselle in season six when they were at Wendy's
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: nude interlude and she was telling Karen, I'm just going
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: to tell your truth. I'm gonna tell your drunk truth.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you. They've always weaponized that towards her.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: You were sitting at a bar with blue eyes at.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: A bar, You're drunk. They've always said that.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: So yes, I think that she was trying to run
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: away from being as attached. I think she was trying
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: to run away from alcoholism. Being at the center of
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: this story, if that makes any sense.
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: She was willing to.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Acknowledge it, but really stepping in and standing in and saying, y'all,
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: I have a drinking problem, and that and I was
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: drunk that night, off my ass, and you know, she
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: added in a lot of other elements and layers which
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: may be relevant. I don't know, you know what I'm saying,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: but We know she has an issue with alcohol. We
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: saw that video, we saw the car, we saw Ray
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: trying his best.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: To go through that pocketbook.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: We know that Karen has an issue with alcohol, and
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: so I just hope that she she is able to
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: be in lifelong treatment like she suggested she was going
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: to be in and work towards, you know, healing with that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Because yeah, I'll just say that, and she did.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: She did eventually admit to being having a is she
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: with alcohol. So I don't want people to think that
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: we're saying she didn't admit it, and she didn't say
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: it the way we wanted her to say it when
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I say that, but it was like she wanted to
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: go to the NA member. She had a choice between
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: narcotics anonymous and alcoholic anonymous. She says she preferred that.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I think she I'm We're, hey, y'all, we're just giving
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: our opinions. We don't know her like that. We're just
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: giving our opinions outsiders looking in what it appeared like
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: she did. To her credit, she definitely did. When pressed,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: she did say she did have a problem with drinking,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: and she did own it. But I feel like her
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: first mind was to go towards the prescription drugs before
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: the alcohol. That's all we're saying, y'all, we're not dragging Karen.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: We are definitely giving her props. And it couldn't have
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: been easy to have to sit there across from Andy
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: one week out when you probably just don't want to
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: talk about it anymore. She probably had to talk about
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: it so much in jail.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was my thing and the second part
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of my own feelings.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And again I'm really speaking as a producer too, And
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: like I said, I would have done the exact same
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: thing producers have done.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: So I'm really watching this to his viewer.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't think Karen was ready to have a conversation,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody let's have a real conversation.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Anybody is ready a week after being in jail for
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: ten months talking about something so difficult some may think embarrassing.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: My heart bled for Karen throughout that entire forty.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Two minute episode.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: That and it does it's onto something because again I
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: was I was watching Teresa lead prison to see her children.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you all the difference. Teresa was
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: in prison because of something her.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Husband did, and they had nothing to do with any
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: self inflicted.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Reasons that she was there. She unfortunately signed some paperwork.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: That was presented to her and she got locked up, right,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: So seeing that that was much more of a warm
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: welcome dust Inpy. Maybe it is sort of like seeing
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: like your your big auntie, your grown untie, your whatever.
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: Your mama. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it just.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: In that fragile state.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: I I had a I had.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: An you nosy.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I had an extremely hard time finishing it because I
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to reach through the television until Karen hold her
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: hands saying everything's gonna be okay, and and you don't
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: owe me nothing, and I'm gonna say this and I'm
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: not gonna take it back.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, Heavenly.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: The reason I can say I think Karen should have
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: waited maybe three months to do the interview is because
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: there's so much to process being in prison for that
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: long period of time. And just last week I dropped
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: an interview that I did with British Williams otherwise who
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: was in prison, dusn't and Claudia for nineteen months. She
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: was in prison for nineteen months and the beauty of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: my conversation with British doesn't Claudia. I had her exclusive
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: interview before she went to jail, and thank you British
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: and her team for giving me the exclusive post prison
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and Claudia Dustin and arranged y'all watched it. What I
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: will say to you is she it was two different
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: people who British was about to turn herself in. When
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: she interviewed me, she made excuses. She was out accountable.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: She said, we all did it. Why did I get
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: called boomah blah boom And I remember being looking at
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: her like baby, I just want you to heal.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: When British got out exclusive for you guys her credit.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: She waited two months maybe three months before she spoke
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to me because she had to get back to life.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: She has a daughter, she had to get acclimated to life.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: In my interview, she said, Carlos, I took for granted
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: smelling fresh air.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I am not gonna cry.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: She said she took for granted smelling fresh air because
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: she was able to allow herself to process it. And
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the thing with Karen that made me so sad for her.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I I just don't think she should have done it.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I would have wanted her to wait three months to
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: process something she went through as a.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Older woman on television doesn't is right.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know, she was weaponized as the old lady
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: drunk or the drunk who would pass out at bars.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: And I just don't think Karen was ready to have
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: a conversation.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And that's fine. I don't I think anybody.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Is fucking ready to have a conversation a week after
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: after going home for prison. Let me let me sit still.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: And my concern for her is the fact that all
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: of the attention, I just don't want these I don't
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: want the attention that she's getting now to do anything
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: to her spirit that allows her to return to something
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: she's trying to break away from.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: I think some people and folks might get mad about this,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: are having an issue with like like I'm seeing people
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: saying they don't feel bad because although she did not
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: harm anyone in this last incident, it could have gone
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: really bad. It didn't. But it is something that we
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: got to start taking seriously. And anyone, my heart goes
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: out to anyone who has lost anyone in a drunk
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: driving accident where they was mine of their business and
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: they were round, they were they hit head on and
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: they survived the accident because they're loose, and the the
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: victim dies, you know what I'm saying. So I just
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: I feel like I don't want people to think we're
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: bathing her because we love her. It is a serious issue,
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: and that's why I think I know me personally, that's
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: why I'm staying on the I don't think she's like
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: wanting to embrace the alcoholic part. It is very serious
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: and that's why she was made to sit down for
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: a little while. And yes, I do agree with you, Carls.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: I do think a week was too soon, like because
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: you go through your prison. I mean I've never been,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: of course, to jail at prison, but you go through it,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: I would imagine there's gotta be some decompressing and maybe
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: you're not processing everything in jail. Maybe when you get
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: out is when you do and you realize damn, like
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I haven't been able to Maybe it hits you later,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: but maybe more time could have been taken. It did
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: seem like it was a little soon in the game.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: And I bet you if they interviewed her, or if
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: you interviewed her and like maybe two three months, it
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: may come across even better. For her because she's had
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: time to really process everything.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: Motherfuckers can miss me with the selective outrage when it
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: comes to Karen Huger. Not in the world where you
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: got Kim Barell literally doing interviews on the Red Carpet
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: saying as a mother and as a Christian, she loves r.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: Kelly as a person and she supports his music. Nobody
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: gave a damn about that.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: And he is in jail right now for doing crimes
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: against children, right. Yeah, she said that recently on the
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Red Carpet because she had covered his shrap in the closet.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Beat miss me with it.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: Karen went to motherfucking jail for her fourth DUI, which
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: is egregious as fun, unsafe as fuck, very dangerous, and
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: could have resulted in some very dire consequences.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: But jail.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: Going to jail itself is of dire consequence. Okay, So
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: she paid her debt to society. This moral grandstanding that
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: people are doing when we living in today's world where
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: y'all don't make an issue out of nothing the fuck else.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: But y'all want to throw the book at Karen Huger
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: because she was it was her fourth DUI. That's a
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: little unfair to me, So people can miss me with that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: We're talking about an older black woman who went to jail,
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: paid her.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Debt to society and it's out.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: Now what else we supposed to do to her, y'all?
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: What else were supposed to do? Every time we talk
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: about her, we got to say, well, she could have
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: killed somebody, not you, not even you I'm talking about.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: I just said it was, and we know it is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: But that don't mean that we have to lambast her,
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, when we are letting so
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: much other shit slide that is morally decomposed. Okay, stop
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: trying to hold her to a higher standard and act
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: like but she was wrong, So we got to make
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: sure we mention it every time when they don't say
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: shit else about a whole lot of other shit dolling
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: people's songs. That's why I said, not audience, y'all still
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: listening to songs, y'all. Still it's still patronizing certain things.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Y'all are still doing all that. So I understand that
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: Karen committed a very serious crime, but miss me with
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: all of that, because it ain't just her that's fucking up.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: And I don't understand why after she did a whole
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: bit people still want motherfuckers to just I don't know
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: what they want, but I don't like that. I don't
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: like that misalignment. That's not fair, Claudia.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Do you think that when it comes to Karen that
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: people are justified for and listen, we're humans and you
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: can do what you want to do a child. Do
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: you think, though, Claudia, that people are justified who believe that,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever, Karen, you could have killed somebody, and
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to constantly remind you of your behavior every
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: chance I get.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair to her? Do you understand it?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Or do you think people should allow some grace to
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: happen and just see what happens, because one thing they
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: do tell you in AA is to take it one
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: day at a time.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Do I think it's fair that people keep reminding her
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: that you said, you meet you.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: You know some people they're like, like you were saying earlier,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: there are people who are saying, like.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for her, like she could have
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: killed somebody.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think that people should Do you think do
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: you think it's right that people feel the need to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: obviously mention that as she did her bid.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I think the only reason that people are doing not
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: the one of the reasons people are doing that is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: because they felt in that interview she still wasn't embracing it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm a little bit like, oh, perfect opportunity.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Just embrace it, address it, and you can move on
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: and then no one could fall to for it. That's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: all I'm saying, you know what I'm saying. Like, it's like,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: if she would have just handled it that in that moment,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: no everyone could shut the hell up about it. Because
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: she did kind of denying it is what's making people say, yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: but you could have you know what I'm saying. So
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: I think she missed an opportunity to just like shut
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: it down right, then of course you're gonna have people.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: I also think this too. I'm trying to cut you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: all clos because I love that we're having this debate.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: That's the reason why I keep saying like, and again,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to suff promote because you could. I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: do encourage anybody to if you have two hours to spare,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: watch British before she went to prison, and watched British
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: talking to me three months after prison is a different person,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: because I do think there is something about allowing yourself
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: to heal without Let's have a rough conversation.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Can you to imagine going.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Through something that you felt was embarrassing And I'm like, hey, Dustin,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: you want to have a mother not live, I'm gonna
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: pay you X amount of dollars.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: You're like, well, shit, I need the money. I was
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: out of work for a year, you know. And again
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: You don't, And I do want people to get for
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: for the second this conversation, let's not think of the addiction.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: What I'm thinking of.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Imagine an embarrassing moment for you and you talk about
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: it a week later, and maybe at that time you
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: don't know how to process it. When people are saying
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Karen did not take anyccomfortability, I would encourage you all
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: to give her some grace in terms of it was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: a week after she got out, and sure and ten months, yes,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: of course she could have. But it took me to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: talk to British for British to say to me, Carlos,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I did not get it until months end, and she
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: was there for nineteen months, and she admitted it took
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: her months to accept her fate and to stop blaming God.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: So I think that's something we could all agree on.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Then it was too soon. It was too soon. The
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: lessons got to stick. When the lesson's gonna stick, she's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: not gonna get it on our timeline. It's going to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: be on hers. And maybe the thing that's that fault
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: here is the timing that it was a little soon.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I bet you month from now she'll have an even
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: deeper perspective of it. All that will be that no
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: one could really criticize as much. I think it was. Yeah,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: it was. That's why I was like, blink twice. If
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: you're being forced to do this interview, I mean so soon.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Of course you want to have this interview, But I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: actually think, like you just getting home, you're feeling me like, yeah,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: it's great TV for us, But personally for her, that
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: probably wasn't the best thing for her. For her about her,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: I was eating that shit up. I was like, oh
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: my god, this is this is so she's being raw,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: but for her, that wasn't probably the best thing for her.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: My thing is the piece I was speaking to about
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: people holding her to a higher moral standard than they're
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: holding any fucking body else. That conversation got started the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: day that we found out she was released from from
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: the facility she was in. That's when the conversation started.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Karen shouldn't have got out of jail. She don't deserve
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: to come back to this show, you know, x y Z.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: All of that chatter started right then. So the interview
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: didn't make it any better because she wasn't And Carlos,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: she brought up such a great example referencing the British
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Williams exit interview because I watched you know, of course
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I don't watching anything you put out, nigga, So I
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: watched the first interview, and of course I just watched
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: the most recent interview, and her perspective.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: On the shift or pivot mentally she had to make.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: Was so different, and so it was such a stark
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: contrast from karen sentiments about something that was both two
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: totally different crimes, but it was a different reflection post release.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: So I get exactly what you're saying. The only thing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: I'm saying is get up off of her. If y'all
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: not gonna pold every motherfucking body to that same standard,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: because it seems unfair to me.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Orage.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: I think we'll get a better understanding of where she
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: is at the reunion because that's way But then also
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: that's also gonna be made potentially a hostile situation. Who
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: knows on my throat stuff on her face? But we'll
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: get to see there's any growth there.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Probably Our last one is I want to get into
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Karen has smoke for Wendy and as look, I have
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: watched every single frame, every single scene of Potomac.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Dustin.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: I know you have to Claudia, she's just getting warmed
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: up to the show and she loves it too. But
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: unless I miss something and Dustin, I feel like Dustin
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: knows way more, does it remembers way more than.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I can about these shows.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the hell Wendy did to Karen
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: for Wendy to deserve this level of smoke. She said,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Dustin and Claudia that look when Andy showed her how
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: the girls were talking about her at the reunion. This
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: is me being a view were I'm gonna get to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: that brown exsign. Look Ashley saying that, yeah, she was
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: in legal seafood, you know, drinking and pretty much falling
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: off a chairs. Then the girl's talking about that, and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Wendy said their quiet and said, well, you were pressing me.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to know, Ashley said at first,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: because in Wendy's defense, Wendy wasn't gonna say anything. It
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: took Ashley to say it. And Wendy said, what Ashley
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: said is what I was going to say when y'all
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: were pressuring me. So for Karen to say I did
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: not mention her on purpose, and she knows why I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: did not mention her. And I'm just like, I don't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: remember any scene where Wendy deserved the smoke that Karen's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: giving her justin did I miss something?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: No, you didn't, My brother, that rift originated on screen
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: for us at the reunion with the omission of Wendy
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: from Karen's video of thank yous and reflections, and we
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: were all sitting there just is confused, and apparently it's
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: still up, you know what I'm saying. Karen said, it's
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: still up. It's still beat. What's up?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: And so I think that we all have a couple
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: of question marks there, and.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: I just hope it's not another situation where like you
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: wish death on my husband. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: where like, Karen, this is a made up grievance, Like,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: what are you talking about? I hope it's not another
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: situation like that, and knowing Karen, it could be, so
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: we'll see. But I know she was playing ping pong
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: with Wendy at that reunion when she taught her I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about because I've been through follow
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: me with Professor, shut the fuck up. When she said
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: that on that reunion trailer, I was like, yeah, okay,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: so she came out swinging, so it'll be good. But no,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell she mad at Wendy for.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: She's just mad at her.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Did Wendy speak on Karen's imprisonment in her case, didn't
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: I hear something?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Is that you?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: She didn't.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And and Claudia, to Duss's point, last season, it wasn't
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: after reunion because she was serving time. So she did
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: a video that you saw Claudia where she pretty much
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: she thank everybody, plus Andy the production child. She thanked
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Craft Services, baby, the doorman, the security guard.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: The grips, everybody, even the grips.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Behind the boy baby, and she elected to say Wendy's name.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: So we're just confused what Wendy did, and she was crypted.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: She said she knows what she did.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, can you tell us, babe, because
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: we don't, so maybe we'll maybe we'll find out the reunion.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Seeing Karen there at the reunion, like the clips I've
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: seen so far, like I thought the season was very entertainment,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: very entertaining. I said at the beginning, damn Potomac girl.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: They work hard for their checks and see there's no dead,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: dull scenes. But then seeing Karen with the girls, I'm like,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: it's like if you weren't judging the Olympics and you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: judge gymnastics and you gave like a ten to performance
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: and you're like ten, and then the very next act
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: comes out to that and you're like, god, damn it,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: I can't give a score a high and in ten,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: that's what it looks like when Karen's added now, because
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: now I'm like, I can't wait for now her back,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: like if I liked it, because you know, I haven't
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: really been I haven't been an avid watching from the beginning.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: I've just poked around here and there and I'm in
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: the salon. But this past year with you guys, I've
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: been watching it full on every single week, but I'm
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: just like, I'm like, wow, I've been missing out all
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: these years, Like I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it looked good. I miss Karen. Okay, then they
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: make you miss Karen Claudia.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: Like just seeing her in that little corner of the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: reunion trailer, I was like.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: Damn, and she looked good.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: That dress, the hair batter and like she looked she
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: was doing it. What did he say? That's food or
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: is it a boob coming up?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: He said his dog. He had to let his dog out.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, they beget some people like when we talk about
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: our personal lives, but sometimes they get mad. Oh y'all
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: to wait too much talk about sexy with I'm like,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: can we we don't. We haven't been able to hang
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: out in person. Can we just key key for a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: little bit? We gotta, y'all mad? We talk about other people,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: then you Maden, we talk about each other. You mad,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: We talk abo ourselves.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: It's all great the show so Plentia doesn't Brianna Aaron
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: said it must be serious though, because Ashley said on
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Washing what happens a lot? I'm sorry on the after
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: show that whatever Karen is mad at Wendy.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: About is justified.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: Wen See.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, last thing, what did y'all think when this this
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: touched me? What did y'all think when Karen said that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: she and Ray are a work in progress and he
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: offered her to leave him once she took the monkey
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: off her back?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: It's honest.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: If you love something, let it go and if it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: comes back it's meant to be, and then let it
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: go again, just to make sure, not let it go twice.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: But the thing about it, I feel like if Karen
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: lens Ray go, she's gonna hold his arm and walk
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: him out of the house down the driveway. Right, She's
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: never really gonna let go of Right, you know what
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. I don't think they're ever gonna break up.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: I actually am exhausted with them. You know we're going through, Karen,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: You've been talking at Yang for what tense fucking seasons
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: about you and Ray?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: Who first your marriage is an institution, Then you know
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: we go through. I'm tired of it. Ain't nothing wrong
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: with you and Ray.
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  Speaker 5: That man is sitting there, just happy to have on
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: his sweater and his sandsor belts and his shoes and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: just Ray is just happy to be you know, have
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: his clothes on, eat a meal during the day. He
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: is not causing no problems, okay, And so I am
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: having trouble believing that. I'll just be honest about that.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's nothing wrong.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I actually agree.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's nothing wrong with her and Ray,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: and I'm sick of it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I think Ray is somebody who's like, I live a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: great life. I mean a lot of money made, money lost, money,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: may may lost again, like everybody does in life. And
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I think Ray is at the point of his life
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: where he's like, I'm just I'm just happy to be
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: around and seeing my kids grow up.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Karen, I think Karen,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna say this, I'm gonna move on from.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: It because it's true. I think Karen. Listen, Karen's gorgeous.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: She looks much younger than her age. And I think
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Ray understands that his wife is very young and happening
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: and may get attention.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: And I think he's like, if that's what you want,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop you. I really do think he's like, dude.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Raise eighty two, right, He's eighty two years old. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Ray's like, I'm not starting over again, and Karen's like, dah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: I got a new lease on life. I just got
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: out of Slammer. I ain't done it in six months.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know what Ray's going through, but I'm still
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: kind of popping on. I look good, hands together, face snatched.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: I worked out in the gym, posting us up, raise down.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: I think Karen, she says, you want to have fun,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: but you want to leave your old faithful like that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: is definitely your security. But I feel, you know, he's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: eighty two, though he is eighty two, Just stay put.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: So next week, guys, it's the beginning of a three
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: partner union for a Potomac that we will be recapping.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: And look, I'm missing my Atlanta peaches.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: So when are we getting getting an announcement, a trailer something?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: Look?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Look, can we officially know if Cay Michelle has joined
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the cast?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: And we need to see how this castewka, my cousin
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: told me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: With the Lack of Effect Network.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore