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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
- 0:03Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. We've got
- 0:06Speaker 1: a really interesting episode for you today, I certainly hope,
- 0:09Speaker 1: so I call this one extraterrestrial Rendezvous. Five amazing on
- 0:15Speaker 1: board ufhone counters. I love, love, love the onboard UFO
- 0:20Speaker 1: cases more than pretty much any other type of uffhone counter,
- 0:25Speaker 1: particularly because these are the closest of all ufhone counters.
- 0:30Speaker 1: These are the most extensive cases. These are the cases
- 0:33Speaker 1: that I think are certainly the most interesting and contain
- 0:37Speaker 1: the most information about ETS and what it's like to
- 0:41Speaker 1: have extraterrestrial contact. And I've chosen five cases that in
- 0:47Speaker 1: particular are super interesting because the witnesses were able to
- 0:52Speaker 1: have interactive conversations with the extraterrestrials, so we learn quite
- 0:58Speaker 1: a bit about the ETS in these particular cases. These
- 1:03Speaker 1: cases also cover a pretty significant period of time for decades,
- 1:08Speaker 1: from the sixties all the way up through the nineteen nineties,
- 1:12Speaker 1: and again come from all over the world, giving us
- 1:15Speaker 1: a cross cultural perspective. So I have a case from England,
- 1:20Speaker 1: I have a case from Italy, one from Brazil and
- 1:24Speaker 1: South America, and two from the United States. These are
- 1:29Speaker 1: all single witness cases. However, pretty much all of them,
- 1:33Speaker 1: or certainly most of them, do have what I would
- 1:37Speaker 1: call supporting witnesses or evidence in terms of other people
- 1:41Speaker 1: seeing UFO activity in that area at that time. And
- 1:46Speaker 1: of course there's other types of evidence such as landing traces,
- 1:50Speaker 1: physiological effects and these sort of things, animal reactions and
- 1:56Speaker 1: so forth. So yeah, really interesting cases. Most of these
- 2:02Speaker 1: I think you probably haven't heard of before. There is
- 2:06Speaker 1: one that's quite well known did get a lot of attention,
- 2:09Speaker 1: but I think it's so interesting that if you haven't
- 2:12Speaker 1: heard about it, you certainly should have. So let's just
- 2:16Speaker 1: get started, because yeah, these are extensive cases. And the
- 2:20Speaker 1: first one I'd like to talk about is probably the
- 2:22Speaker 1: briefest of all five of these, but still pretty interesting.
- 2:27Speaker 1: And I call this one a message to humanity. This
- 2:31Speaker 1: occurred on April tenth, nineteen sixty two, in San Casciano, Italy.
- 2:39Speaker 1: It's a super interesting, if somewhat controversial case involving an
- 2:43Speaker 1: Italian Taylor. Primary witness in this case is Mario Zukala.
- 2:50Speaker 1: He's a twenty seven year old tailor married with four children,
- 2:55Speaker 1: and on the evening of April ten, nineteen sixty two.
- 2:59Speaker 1: He had just gotten off the bus and was returning
- 3:03Speaker 1: to his home from his place of employment, and he
- 3:06Speaker 1: was walking around the local cemetery in San Casciano, Italy,
- 3:11Speaker 1: when he says he was struck from behind by an
- 3:13Speaker 1: abnormally powerful gust of air. He says it was almost
- 3:17Speaker 1: powerful enough to lift him off his feet, and turning
- 3:22Speaker 1: around to see what was the cause, he was paralyzed
- 3:25Speaker 1: with fear. He said to see a thirty two foot
- 3:28Speaker 1: wide white metallic flying saucer hovering only a few feet
- 3:34Speaker 1: off the ground. It wasn't quite landed, it was covering
- 3:37Speaker 1: just a few feet off the ground, and he says
- 3:41Speaker 1: he was unable to move and watched in shock as
- 3:44Speaker 1: the sort of metallic cylinder about three feet wide came
- 3:49Speaker 1: out from the bottom of the object and descended kind
- 3:52Speaker 1: of telescoping to the ground. And at this point a
- 3:57Speaker 1: door or an opening appeared in the cellar and emitted
- 4:02Speaker 1: an intense white light, and he says two small men
- 4:07Speaker 1: quote about four four and a half feet tall came
- 4:11Speaker 1: out and stepped down a few steps and approached Mario.
- 4:17Speaker 1: He said that they were pretty much humanoid in form,
- 4:20Speaker 1: but were completely covered by an armor of shining metal.
- 4:25Speaker 1: They had a strange hood over their head with what
- 4:28Speaker 1: looked like two antennae like devices on either side, and
- 4:32Speaker 1: were wearing gloves. He could not see their faces. Now,
- 4:37Speaker 1: Mario said, at this point his fear completely left him
- 4:41Speaker 1: and instead he felt a quote, absolute tranquility. He says,
- 4:47Speaker 1: the ets walked right up to him, grabbed him by
- 4:50Speaker 1: his armpits, and lifted him bodily off the ground and
- 4:53Speaker 1: took an inside the craft. Now, he doesn't have a
- 4:57Speaker 1: whole lot of memory of what the inc side of
- 5:00Speaker 1: the craft looked like, other than it was a very
- 5:03Speaker 1: bright light. He saw no source of the light, but
- 5:08Speaker 1: there was not a whole lot in there, he said.
- 5:11Speaker 1: So he asked them where they came from, and they
- 5:14Speaker 1: did not reply. But he says, at this point he
- 5:17Speaker 1: heard a loud voice. He said, it sounded almost like
- 5:20Speaker 1: it was coming from a loud speaker, kind of metallic sounding,
- 5:24Speaker 1: echoing and coming from one of the beings telling him,
- 5:28Speaker 1: in his native language of Italian, quote, at the end
- 5:33Speaker 1: of the fourth moon, about one hour from morning, we
- 5:37Speaker 1: will return to give a message to humanity. We shall
- 5:41Speaker 1: give notice of this to another person in order to
- 5:44Speaker 1: confirm that that which you have seen is true. So
- 5:49Speaker 1: it's a pretty brief message there. And the next thing,
- 5:52Speaker 1: Mario knew he was being escorted out of the object,
- 5:56Speaker 1: and he doesn't know how, but he found himself standing
- 5:59Speaker 1: in front of the door to his home with no
- 6:02Speaker 1: idea how he got there. His wife, Francis Sheena, found
- 6:07Speaker 1: him there, saying that she heard four knocks on the door.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Now Mario does not remember knocking on the front door,
- 6:15Speaker 1: but she opened the door, found him there, saw that
- 6:18Speaker 1: he was terrified, and Mario was quite traumatized. He said
- 6:23Speaker 1: he was unable to sleep that night. He was not
- 6:26Speaker 1: planning on talking about this to anybody, but he did
- 6:30Speaker 1: tell it to a friend who called the newspaper, so
- 6:34Speaker 1: this led to an investigation. There were no landing traces
- 6:39Speaker 1: found at the site. However, Mario said that he was
- 6:43Speaker 1: contacted later and was given half of this supposed message,
- 6:50Speaker 1: which she said he kept in a locked case unrevealed.
- 6:55Speaker 1: He said the second half of the message Etis told
- 6:58Speaker 1: him had been given to someone else in Europe, and apparently,
- 7:02Speaker 1: according to him, they showed him the face of this
- 7:05Speaker 1: person so he would recognize them. And this is pretty
- 7:09Speaker 1: much where the case stands. It was investigated by a
- 7:14Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of let me see if I
- 7:16Speaker 1: can get this right, Checciarelli Silvano, who said of Mario
- 7:21Speaker 1: and I quote, he speaks with a calm assurance of
- 7:25Speaker 1: what he has seen. Now, there are some who remained
- 7:29Speaker 1: skeptical of his account, but those who know him say
- 7:32Speaker 1: he is an honest and sincere man. And in fact,
- 7:37Speaker 1: there is some interesting corroboration to his case, because there
- 7:41Speaker 1: was another case not too far away which occurred on
- 7:45Speaker 1: that same evening. It involved four gentlemen, Iller Benazzi and
- 7:52Speaker 1: three others who were driving along the Serrano Legagno road
- 7:57Speaker 1: and they stopped their car to view this unusual glowing
- 8:00Speaker 1: object in the sky. And as they watched it, they
- 8:04Speaker 1: could see this wasn't a plane or helicopter or anything.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Was totally silent. It had three white lights on it,
- 8:11Speaker 1: and as they're watching it, it doved down towards their
- 8:14Speaker 1: car and then landed on the road in front of
- 8:17Speaker 1: them before taking off. They were not going to tell
- 8:21Speaker 1: anyone about this until they heard about Mario's encounter in
- 8:26Speaker 1: the newspapers, and this is when they told the police.
- 8:31Speaker 1: So certainly some interesting corroboration there, though not really evidence
- 8:37Speaker 1: or proof of Mario's encounter. Again, Mario would report other encounters,
- 8:42Speaker 1: and some Italian ufologists began to question the legitimacy of
- 8:47Speaker 1: some of his claims. But it's certainly an interesting experience,
- 8:52Speaker 1: and Mario has stuck to his story to the day
- 8:54Speaker 1: he died. While there are those who do remain skeptical
- 8:59Speaker 1: of mario account, I don't know. A lot of the
- 9:04Speaker 1: details he describes are certainly ones we hear quite often,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and by all accounts from the people who know him,
- 9:13Speaker 1: he is an honest and sincere gentleman, so you can
- 9:17Speaker 1: just make up your own mind about it. The case
- 9:20Speaker 1: was cited in a few books and is certainly worth knowing.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And here's another case which is also super interesting, very extensive,
- 9:32Speaker 1: has a lot of information, and I call this one.
- 9:35Speaker 1: We are here to help. This got a lot of
- 9:39Speaker 1: attention in the area where it occurred, Brazil. It occurred
- 9:43Speaker 1: on June twenty third, nineteen seventy six, in the town
- 9:48Speaker 1: of Era Kanduva. This is in Sao Palo, Brazil, and
- 9:53Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's an amazing case because it involves quite
- 9:57Speaker 1: a bit of evidence some really unusual features and just
- 10:04Speaker 1: some really interesting takeaways from it. So this amazing extensive
- 10:09Speaker 1: and very well verified and investigated case does involve again
- 10:14Speaker 1: multiple corroborating witnesses, but the primary witness is Paulo Kutinho
- 10:21Speaker 1: and it was around eleven thirty pm June twenty third,
- 10:24Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. Paulo had just left his girlfriend's house
- 10:29Speaker 1: after attending school with her and was walking home. So
- 10:34Speaker 1: as he walked along the sidewalk of moyses Mark Street
- 10:39Speaker 1: in front of the Church of sal Pedro, he saw
- 10:42Speaker 1: a strange light moving overhead and away from him, but
- 10:47Speaker 1: it was unusual, so he stopped to watch it, when
- 10:49Speaker 1: suddenly it reversed its trajectory and zoomed towards him, and
- 10:55Speaker 1: this is when he realized that this light appeared to
- 10:57Speaker 1: be targeting him and he became afraid. He turned to run,
- 11:01Speaker 1: but found himself unable to move, and in about two seconds,
- 11:06Speaker 1: the light dropped down to the sidewalk about eighteen feet
- 11:10Speaker 1: away from him. Quite close he could now see it
- 11:14Speaker 1: was a small luminous sphere. It slowly dimmed in brilliance
- 11:19Speaker 1: and in its place was a small dwarf like humanoid
- 11:24Speaker 1: about three feet tall. Paulo gave a very vivid description.
- 11:30Speaker 1: He said that this figure had an enormous bald head,
- 11:34Speaker 1: large blue eyes, an upturned nose, a very small mouth,
- 11:39Speaker 1: white pale skin, and the figure was wearing a smooth
- 11:43Speaker 1: blue gray jumpsuit with a strange emblem on its chest. Now,
- 11:49Speaker 1: for the next two or three minutes, Paulo and this
- 11:52Speaker 1: humanoid faced each other, and then Paulo found himself walking
- 11:58Speaker 1: right up to the humanoid and the next thing he knows,
- 12:01Speaker 1: both he and this little man rise slowly up into
- 12:06Speaker 1: the air. He says it took about ten to fifteen
- 12:09Speaker 1: seconds for them to reach a height of about ninety feet,
- 12:14Speaker 1: and then both shot up at a dizzying pace, very fast,
- 12:18Speaker 1: and Paula looked down and watched the earth recede until
- 12:22Speaker 1: it was just a small globe, and in front of him,
- 12:25Speaker 1: hanging in space, he saw this huge, sparkling red cigar
- 12:30Speaker 1: shaped object. He estimates it was about seven hundred maybe
- 12:34Speaker 1: eight hundred feet long. And he's not sure how, but
- 12:38Speaker 1: somehow he and this humanoid were drawn inside the craft
- 12:43Speaker 1: into a small room about nine feet wide square square
- 12:48Speaker 1: ish with light gray walls that curved into the floor
- 12:51Speaker 1: and ceiling. Paulo was lying on the floor. There were
- 12:56Speaker 1: two other humanoids in there, looking pretty much the same
- 12:59Speaker 1: as first. What's really interesting is while this room was
- 13:03Speaker 1: nine feet wide, it was only four feet high. Hollow
- 13:08Speaker 1: was five feet seven inches tall, so he was unable
- 13:12Speaker 1: to stand up in this room. At this point, he's
- 13:15Speaker 1: wondering what's happening to him? Is he hallucinating, dreaming, or
- 13:18Speaker 1: imagining all this? So he reached out to touch one
- 13:22Speaker 1: of the ets, at which point he found himself absolutely
- 13:26Speaker 1: unable to move, and one of the ets spoke telepathically
- 13:30Speaker 1: to him, saying, we are not going to do anything
- 13:34Speaker 1: to you, so don't try to do anything against us.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And then one of the ets said, follow us. Two
- 13:43Speaker 1: of these little kind of typical grays walked ahead, and
- 13:48Speaker 1: one walked on his right. Paulo found himself able to
- 13:51Speaker 1: move but unable to stand up. He kind of hobbled
- 13:54Speaker 1: on his knees towards the wall, where a mysterious opening appeared,
- 14:00Speaker 1: and they walked into another room, again with a four
- 14:03Speaker 1: foot tall ceiling, but much bigger, about thirty feet wide,
- 14:07Speaker 1: again with curved walls. Inside, there were six more humanoids,
- 14:12Speaker 1: so now there's a total of nine of them. Also
- 14:16Speaker 1: in the room was a table. He kind of walked
- 14:20Speaker 1: up or hobbled on his knees up to the table
- 14:23Speaker 1: until one of the humanoids told him to just remain
- 14:26Speaker 1: where he was. So at this point, Paulo knows he's awake,
- 14:30Speaker 1: he knows this is really happening. He felt considerable fear.
- 14:34Speaker 1: He could feel the sweat pouring off his body, but
- 14:38Speaker 1: he did get a good look at the ets. He
- 14:40Speaker 1: could see that they were basically humanoid. They had five fingers,
- 14:45Speaker 1: small pointed ears. Some appeared to have more delicate features,
- 14:50Speaker 1: and he had the impression that they were female and
- 14:52Speaker 1: the other's male. He saw that they had large shoes,
- 14:57Speaker 1: silver with kind of thick soles on them, so he's
- 15:01Speaker 1: freaking out. At this point, he's thinking about his girlfriend
- 15:05Speaker 1: and how she was the last person to see him, when,
- 15:08Speaker 1: to his surprise, the wall before him kind of lit
- 15:12Speaker 1: up like a TV screen, only it was in three dimensions.
- 15:16Speaker 1: It looked absolutely real, and he could see an image
- 15:19Speaker 1: of his girlfriend walking down the street. The scene shifted
- 15:24Speaker 1: and he saw two classmates from school on their motorcycles.
- 15:30Speaker 1: So Paula was looking on all this pensively with some sadness.
- 15:34Speaker 1: He thought of his parents, you know, would they ever
- 15:37Speaker 1: see him again? And the image changed to show his
- 15:40Speaker 1: mother and father inside their home. Now his mother was crying,
- 15:44Speaker 1: his father looked quite worried. So Paula's getting a little
- 15:48Speaker 1: bit angry at this point. He's feel like he's being
- 15:51Speaker 1: taken away from his family and those he loved. And
- 15:54Speaker 1: he spoke out loud to the ets, what do you
- 15:58Speaker 1: want with me now? The ets did not speak out loud.
- 16:02Speaker 1: They replied telepathically, and one of them said, don't worry,
- 16:06Speaker 1: we won't hurt you. Paulo asked what do you come
- 16:11Speaker 1: to do here on Earth, and the ET replied, we
- 16:15Speaker 1: are studying how life arose on the planets and in
- 16:19Speaker 1: the universe. We are also here to help. So this
- 16:24Speaker 1: intrigued Paulo and some of his fear lessened, and he
- 16:28Speaker 1: started asking them questions. He asked them, does God exist?
- 16:33Speaker 1: And the ET replied yes, though Paulo had the impression
- 16:37Speaker 1: that he wasn't sure if the ET fully understood the question.
- 16:42Speaker 1: But next they showed him this three D image of
- 16:45Speaker 1: the docking of the Russian and Americans in space, which
- 16:50Speaker 1: by coincidence or not Paulo had previously seen in school.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Paulo did ask them then what they thought of Earth's technology,
- 17:00Speaker 1: and the et replied, and I quote, if all countries
- 17:05Speaker 1: on the planet joined their efforts in common, the result
- 17:09Speaker 1: would have a much greater scope. So this is a
- 17:13Speaker 1: message of peace, which I found very interesting. Paulow asked
- 17:18Speaker 1: to see the Earth, and the image on the screen
- 17:20Speaker 1: shifted immediately to show the Earth, first quite close up
- 17:24Speaker 1: and then receding quickly. Paulo asked them if they ever
- 17:29Speaker 1: used robots or robotic technology, and the ets replied no,
- 17:34Speaker 1: but that each of them, meaning the ets, were specifically
- 17:38Speaker 1: prepared to do the tasks that they were now doing.
- 17:43Speaker 1: So Paulo asked them a very interesting question, again out loud.
- 17:47Speaker 1: He said, why don't the aliens descend en mass on Earth?
- 17:53Speaker 1: And the ets gave a very interesting response. They said
- 17:57Speaker 1: that as long as the people of Earth remained, such
- 18:01Speaker 1: an action would provoke war. They would only land when
- 18:05Speaker 1: the people of Earth joined together. They did tell him
- 18:09Speaker 1: that there were millions of other planets with life out
- 18:12Speaker 1: in the universe which they were currently researching and visiting,
- 18:16Speaker 1: and at one point they showed him what looked like
- 18:18Speaker 1: a star map. Now, at this point, one of the
- 18:22Speaker 1: female ets walked up to the wall. It opened up
- 18:27Speaker 1: and let her out. Paul could see a corridor lit
- 18:31Speaker 1: with red light, but this opening closed again. She returned
- 18:35Speaker 1: moments later with another et, and Paula was then instructed
- 18:40Speaker 1: to follow this et, who had just entered the room,
- 18:42Speaker 1: into the previous room which he had just exited. So
- 18:46Speaker 1: he followed three of the ets into this room, and
- 18:50Speaker 1: in it he saw that there was sort of a
- 18:52Speaker 1: stretcher floating right above the floor, and Paulo's body floated
- 18:57Speaker 1: right onto the stretcher. And this new ET was apparently
- 19:02Speaker 1: a doctor, because he began to run his hands above
- 19:05Speaker 1: Paulo's body as if examining him. This is what Paula
- 19:09Speaker 1: thought was happening, so he asked, and he was told
- 19:13Speaker 1: that this new ET was in fact a doctor and
- 19:16Speaker 1: that they were examining him. Paula asked if they were
- 19:19Speaker 1: going to do any type of surgery on him, and
- 19:22Speaker 1: they said no, that they did not need to open
- 19:25Speaker 1: his body, that they could do whatever they needed to
- 19:28Speaker 1: do without resorting to those measures. The next thing he knows,
- 19:33Speaker 1: he's floating off of this table and he feels the
- 19:36Speaker 1: strong crushing pressure enveloping his entire body and boom, he
- 19:41Speaker 1: found himself outside the craft with the same humanoid who
- 19:46Speaker 1: had brought him in. He became very dizzy, his vision blurred,
- 19:50Speaker 1: felt a bit nauseous, and then saw a whirlwind of
- 19:54Speaker 1: lights and blacked out. So meanwhile, back on Earth, the
- 19:59Speaker 1: next morning has arrived and Paulo is not there. However,
- 20:05Speaker 1: one of Paulo's fellow students found his notebooks, his school notebooks,
- 20:09Speaker 1: on the ground, apparently exactly where he had been taken
- 20:13Speaker 1: on board. So this student took these notebooks and returned
- 20:18Speaker 1: it to Paul's home. And this is when Paulo's parents
- 20:23Speaker 1: realized that their son was missing under very mysterious circumstances.
- 20:28Speaker 1: And throughout the day, family and friends gathered at the
- 20:31Speaker 1: house and they were wondering where he was and what
- 20:35Speaker 1: was going on. And when evening arrived, Paulo's father, Jose,
- 20:41Speaker 1: got a telepathic message. He felt a sudden, very strong
- 20:45Speaker 1: conviction that his son was all right and would be
- 20:49Speaker 1: returning shortly, And was shortly later that one of the
- 20:53Speaker 1: members of the household heard a groaning coming from outside.
- 20:57Speaker 1: They rushed outside and there was Paulo groaning, lying on
- 21:01Speaker 1: the ground cold, semi conscious. Paulo has no memory of this.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Really next thing he remembers is basically waking up in
- 21:12Speaker 1: the hospital. It was the next day, June twenty fourth,
- 21:16Speaker 1: and Paulo had been missing for twenty hours. He was
- 21:21Speaker 1: rushed to the emergency room at Tutoipe and he was
- 21:26Speaker 1: traumatized but physically fine. He didn't notice that following this encounter.
- 21:32Speaker 1: In the days and weeks afterwards, he started to hear
- 21:35Speaker 1: a strange ringing and buzzing noise in his head. He
- 21:38Speaker 1: wondered if it might be a type of mental communication
- 21:41Speaker 1: with the ets. There were other changes. Before his encounter.
- 21:46Speaker 1: He was a somewhat nervous person. He suffered from stuttering,
- 21:50Speaker 1: but following this encounter, he says he had a much
- 21:54Speaker 1: calmer outlook on life and his stuttering disappeared. During his
- 22:00Speaker 1: on board encounter, Paula did have a mechanical pen and
- 22:03Speaker 1: pencil in his pocket. These were tested by researchers and
- 22:07Speaker 1: were shown to be magnetized. But weirdly, his watch, which
- 22:12Speaker 1: he was also wearing, showed no other abnormality other than
- 22:17Speaker 1: being twenty hours behind. So investigators really dug into this case,
- 22:23Speaker 1: interviewed him thoroughly, interviewed other people in the area, and
- 22:27Speaker 1: found out that several people had seen a UFO on
- 22:30Speaker 1: that night, some reported weird disturbances on their TV sets,
- 22:36Speaker 1: and in the months following the encounter, Paulo's family saw
- 22:41Speaker 1: UFOs overhead. Now Here is another very interesting fact. Maria Kutinho,
- 22:48Speaker 1: Paulo's mother, said that on the day that Paula was born,
- 22:53Speaker 1: she actually saw a metallic sphere flying in the sky,
- 22:57Speaker 1: which was also observed by Paulo's old brother than eight
- 23:00Speaker 1: years old. So this, I think is an indication that
- 23:04Speaker 1: Paulo's encounter was not a one off and it had
- 23:08Speaker 1: likely been followed pretty much his entire life. A truly
- 23:13Speaker 1: fascinating case by any account, and it's really interesting because
- 23:17Speaker 1: the ets did talk about why they're here on this
- 23:21Speaker 1: planet and gave the witness quite a bit of information
- 23:28Speaker 1: certainly deserves to be well known, and that's why I
- 23:30Speaker 1: wanted to cover it in this episode. And now we
- 23:34Speaker 1: move to another case, which I doubt you've heard of.
- 23:36Speaker 1: It's not very well known at all. I call this one.
- 23:41Speaker 1: You are progressing as planned, and this is an interesting
- 23:45Speaker 1: case for a number of reasons, because it shows how
- 23:49Speaker 1: closely ets are observing and working with certain people. This
- 23:54Speaker 1: one occurred on February tenth, nineteen eighty one, in Renton, Washington.
- 24:00Speaker 1: This is a typical missing time encounter which was uncovered
- 24:05Speaker 1: through hypnotic regression. But what the witness recalled certainly matches
- 24:11Speaker 1: what other people are remembering fully consciously. I think it's
- 24:15Speaker 1: a legitimate case, and I hope you find it interesting. Again,
- 24:20Speaker 1: the witness in this case has requested full anonymity and
- 24:23Speaker 1: is known only as Kathy. I believe that it's a
- 24:26Speaker 1: pseudonym at any rate. She at the time of her
- 24:30Speaker 1: encounter was a twenty five year old medical professional and
- 24:34Speaker 1: a college graduate. But she revealed her story to reporter
- 24:40Speaker 1: Doug Marginson of the Auburn Washington Globe News because she
- 24:46Speaker 1: felt that she was not alone with her experiences and
- 24:50Speaker 1: wanted others who might be afraid to know that they
- 24:53Speaker 1: are not alone with their experiences. And it was around
- 24:56Speaker 1: eleven forty pm on February ten, nineteen eighty and Kathy
- 25:02Speaker 1: was driving along the Petrovitsky Road. Again, this is in Renton, Washington,
- 25:08Speaker 1: and she had just passed the Valley General hospital. She
- 25:13Speaker 1: was at the intersection of one hundred and fifty first
- 25:16Speaker 1: and Petrovitsky pictured here, and she looked up in the
- 25:20Speaker 1: sky and saw this weird ring of red and blue
- 25:24Speaker 1: lights flashing this sort of sequence. And looking up at
- 25:28Speaker 1: this she could see that whatever this was was about
- 25:32Speaker 1: seventy five to one hundred feet in diameter and very low,
- 25:36Speaker 1: hovering just above a grove of trees. So she was
- 25:41Speaker 1: nearly home at this point. She turned left onto one
- 25:43Speaker 1: hundred and fifty first and drove just a short distance
- 25:47Speaker 1: to her apartment building and parked. She looked around for
- 25:51Speaker 1: the UFO and saw that it was now hovering about
- 25:55Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty feet off the ground, about two
- 25:58Speaker 1: hundred feet away, apparently following her to her own And
- 26:02Speaker 1: she thought to herself, if this moves or drops, I'm
- 26:06Speaker 1: getting out of here. And of course, the object did
- 26:10Speaker 1: drop in a sort of falling leaf motion, down to
- 26:14Speaker 1: an altitude of about twenty to maybe fifty feet. It
- 26:18Speaker 1: then stopped and came zooming right for her. This freaked
- 26:23Speaker 1: her out. She ran out of the car, leaving the
- 26:26Speaker 1: headlights still on, and ran for her front door. Now
- 26:31Speaker 1: turning around, she saw that she had left her headlights on,
- 26:34Speaker 1: and for some strange reason, she felt compelled to go
- 26:37Speaker 1: back into the car, get in and turn off the headlights,
- 26:41Speaker 1: which she did, and she was got out, ran for
- 26:47Speaker 1: her door, which was about seventy five feet away, and
- 26:51Speaker 1: when she looked up, the UFO was gone. She thought
- 26:54Speaker 1: this was strange because she didn't see it leave, and
- 26:58Speaker 1: after thinking about it, she wondered if there was more
- 27:00Speaker 1: to this encounter than she remembered. So she did her
- 27:05Speaker 1: research and the next day she contacted Eileen Garat of
- 27:11Speaker 1: the UFO Contact Center International, and after interviewing her, Eileen
- 27:17Speaker 1: agreed with Kathy and suspected that she may have had
- 27:20Speaker 1: missing time, and Eileen suggested hypnosis. Eileen did the hypnosis,
- 27:27Speaker 1: Kathy agreed and had four hypnotic sessions, which did, of course,
- 27:32Speaker 1: reveal that she had been taken on board. Kathy recalled
- 27:37Speaker 1: that after she sat down in her car to turn
- 27:39Speaker 1: off the headlights, the car suddenly filled with bright white
- 27:44Speaker 1: light and the next thing she knew, without knowing how
- 27:48Speaker 1: she got there, she was standing inside a dome like
- 27:52Speaker 1: room fifteen feet wide. She said, the walls were very smooth,
- 27:58Speaker 1: very white. She saw an arched doorway in front of her.
- 28:02Speaker 1: In the room, there was sort of this white box
- 28:04Speaker 1: which held a dark screen which had a bunch of
- 28:08Speaker 1: colored lights on it. She also saw a long white
- 28:11Speaker 1: table which was connected to the floor by a single pedestal.
- 28:16Speaker 1: This was right behind her, and she didn't feel any
- 28:19Speaker 1: real fear, she says. She felt quote calm, but kind
- 28:23Speaker 1: of bewildered, and she was surprised to find herself undressing,
- 28:28Speaker 1: at which point two beings came through the arch door,
- 28:32Speaker 1: and she described them. She said they were about four
- 28:35Speaker 1: and a half to five feet tall, with thin upper bodies,
- 28:40Speaker 1: sloping shoulders, and long arms that came down almost to
- 28:44Speaker 1: their knees. They had large, kind of light bulb shaped heads,
- 28:49Speaker 1: very large wide eyes, just a small ridge for a nose,
- 28:53Speaker 1: a slit for a mouth, and a tiny flap and
- 28:56Speaker 1: a hole for ears. She did notice that they had
- 28:59Speaker 1: only four fingers, very long fingers on each hand. Their
- 29:04Speaker 1: skin was gray white, kind of cool to the touch,
- 29:07Speaker 1: she said, and they were dressed from the neck down
- 29:10Speaker 1: and quote a blue spray metallic fabric. She also noticed
- 29:16Speaker 1: that the left chest of their uniforms was an insignia
- 29:20Speaker 1: that looked to her like an asauceles triangle inside a
- 29:23Speaker 1: white circle, so these appear to be the typical grays.
- 29:28Speaker 1: They held her by her upper arms and led her
- 29:31Speaker 1: to this table, and as Cathy says, the whole thing
- 29:36Speaker 1: seemed to go like clockwork. I got on the table
- 29:39Speaker 1: and they gently pushed me down. I wasn't frightened. I
- 29:43Speaker 1: had no real thoughts. Now at this point she did
- 29:47Speaker 1: see a third humanoid, and he was much the same
- 29:51Speaker 1: as the other two, but wore a red orange uniform
- 29:54Speaker 1: with a black stripe around the neck. He and the
- 29:58Speaker 1: other two beings surrounded them table, and the one in
- 30:01Speaker 1: the red orange uniform, she says, held a silver instrument
- 30:06Speaker 1: that looked a little bit like a mallet. He placed
- 30:09Speaker 1: it on her abdomen in a few spots, and he
- 30:12Speaker 1: would look down through the other end, apparently examining her.
- 30:17Speaker 1: He left for a moment and then returned, and Kathy
- 30:21Speaker 1: spoke to them. She asked them mentally, what is the
- 30:24Speaker 1: purpose of this, and the e t replied, you are
- 30:29Speaker 1: progressing physically and mentally as planned, and are very receptive
- 30:34Speaker 1: to us. They told her that they were pleased with
- 30:37Speaker 1: what her father had taught her, and that it was
- 30:39Speaker 1: now time to go, and as Kathy says in her
- 30:43Speaker 1: own words, I didn't want to, but they assisted me
- 30:46Speaker 1: off the table. I put my dress on, they said,
- 30:50Speaker 1: you will see us again, and the next thing I knew,
- 30:53Speaker 1: I was back in my car. So after all the
- 30:58Speaker 1: sessions were complete, Kathy remembered that she and her father
- 31:02Speaker 1: used to watch UFOs in the sky when she was
- 31:06Speaker 1: just a little girl. She decided she was going to
- 31:09Speaker 1: call her father and share what happened to her, and
- 31:13Speaker 1: she did, and she was amazed by his reaction. As
- 31:17Speaker 1: she says, he cried, he never told me before, but
- 31:22Speaker 1: he has had four encounters with the same people. So
- 31:27Speaker 1: this is a fairly typical case and it shows the
- 31:30Speaker 1: very commonly reported physical exam by the ets. It also
- 31:34Speaker 1: shows that contact is often generational. Kathy doesn't know why
- 31:39Speaker 1: she was chosen, but she knows that many people still
- 31:43Speaker 1: remain very skeptical of such accounts, but she says she's
- 31:47Speaker 1: confident in what happened to her and what she remembered,
- 31:50Speaker 1: and as she says, think what you want, I believe it.
- 31:55Speaker 1: The fact that this witness insisted upon anonymity is not
- 31:59Speaker 1: looking for any attention whatsoever, I think, argues towards the
- 32:03Speaker 1: credibility of the case, and again it matches what so
- 32:07Speaker 1: many other people have said. It's a really fascinating case,
- 32:12Speaker 1: and so is this next one. I think of all
- 32:15Speaker 1: the cases I'm presenting today, this might be the most fascinating.
- 32:20Speaker 1: It's certainly the most well known. If you haven't heard
- 32:22Speaker 1: of it, you definitely should know about it, because it's
- 32:25Speaker 1: a fantastic case. I call this one you are too old.
- 32:32Speaker 1: This occurred on August twelfth, nineteen eighty three in England,
- 32:37Speaker 1: your Aldershot, England, and involves a gentleman who is seventy
- 32:43Speaker 1: seven years old and had an onboard experience unlike any
- 32:48Speaker 1: other I've actually heard about. Though in many ways it
- 32:52Speaker 1: is a fairly typical encounter. In some ways, it's absolutely
- 32:57Speaker 1: unique and I think you'll find it quite fascinating. It
- 33:00Speaker 1: was around one a m. And Alfred Bertout, a retired
- 33:05Speaker 1: gardener aged seventy seven, sat with his dog Tiny on
- 33:10Speaker 1: the banks of a canal near Aldershot, England. Then this
- 33:15Speaker 1: is August twelve, nineteen eighty three. Alfred was getting his
- 33:18Speaker 1: fishing pole and bait ready for an early morning of fishing,
- 33:23Speaker 1: and he was just pouring a cup of tea when
- 33:26Speaker 1: a u FO showed up. And I'll just quote Alfred
- 33:30Speaker 1: because he described what happened next in very vivid detail.
- 33:35Speaker 1: As Alfred says in his own words, I saw a
- 33:38Speaker 1: light suddenly appear from the south. So I put my
- 33:42Speaker 1: cup down on the box and stood and watched it.
- 33:45Speaker 1: It came in towards the railway bridge, and I thought
- 33:49Speaker 1: it's not going to land on the railway bridge. I
- 33:52Speaker 1: straightway guessed that it wasn't an aeroplane or a chopper
- 33:56Speaker 1: because it was only about three hundred feet off the ground.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Then it settled down further along the tow path and
- 34:04Speaker 1: the brilliant light that had been showing was extinguished. I
- 34:08Speaker 1: stood there watching it, and presently I saw two forms
- 34:12Speaker 1: coming towards me. The dog growled and wouldn't pack up
- 34:16Speaker 1: until I told it to. Two forms came up to me,
- 34:20Speaker 1: just over four feet high, I would say, dressed in
- 34:24Speaker 1: green overalls and visors. I stood there looking at them,
- 34:28Speaker 1: and they stood there looking at me. I got a
- 34:31Speaker 1: bit of a shock when they came up to me
- 34:32Speaker 1: with those green overalls on. I couldn't see any buttons
- 34:36Speaker 1: or zips or anything. It was just as though it
- 34:39Speaker 1: was molded on to them. The dog sat there quietly
- 34:43Speaker 1: after I told it to shut up. They had like
- 34:46Speaker 1: pea green helmets on their heads, but the visor on
- 34:50Speaker 1: front seemed to be blacked out, like smoked glass. You
- 34:54Speaker 1: couldn't see their faces. I didn't notice their hands. Maybe
- 34:58Speaker 1: they had gloves on. But then the chap on the
- 35:02Speaker 1: right waved for me to come, and that was all
- 35:06Speaker 1: I was curious, so I followed them well. When we
- 35:09Speaker 1: got down with him fifty to sixty yards of the
- 35:12Speaker 1: railway bridge, there was this object sitting on the towpath,
- 35:17Speaker 1: ten to fifteen feet over the water and ten to
- 35:20Speaker 1: fifteen feet over the bank. The outside was like polished aluminum.
- 35:26Speaker 1: There were steps. They were off line to the towpath,
- 35:30Speaker 1: and we had to step onto the grass to go
- 35:32Speaker 1: up to them. They were just a wide set of
- 35:35Speaker 1: steps with a handrail up both sides. So at this
- 35:41Speaker 1: point the Ets climb up the steps. Alfred follows. Alfred
- 35:46Speaker 1: did notice that as they walked up to this craft,
- 35:49Speaker 1: the Ets did seem a bit stiff in their movements,
- 35:52Speaker 1: and they led him up to and into this craft,
- 35:55Speaker 1: which he said was about forty five feet wide. It
- 35:58Speaker 1: had sort of a top dome portholes around the center,
- 36:03Speaker 1: six or seven that he could see, and of course
- 36:07Speaker 1: there were about five to ten steps leading up to
- 36:10Speaker 1: a height he estimates of about twelve to fifteen feet.
- 36:15Speaker 1: And as Alfred says in his own words, one went
- 36:18Speaker 1: ahead of me, because that is the way they walked
- 36:20Speaker 1: down the path, and one behind me. One of these
- 36:24Speaker 1: forms went across the corridor, which was he's. One of
- 36:30Speaker 1: these forms went across the corridor, which was hexagon in shape,
- 36:35Speaker 1: and the other one stood near the door. I stood
- 36:38Speaker 1: to the right of it. So he stood there quite
- 36:41Speaker 1: some time, as if they were preparing for something. And
- 36:43Speaker 1: as Alfred says, the one in front of me walked
- 36:47Speaker 1: across what I would call the corridor into what I
- 36:50Speaker 1: took to be a room on the other side, and
- 36:53Speaker 1: the other one just stood inside the door, and I
- 36:55Speaker 1: stood to the right of him. So again he's standing
- 36:59Speaker 1: right there for some time. He said. It was warmer
- 37:02Speaker 1: inside the craft than outside. He noticed a faint but
- 37:06Speaker 1: unpleasant smell, somewhat he said, like decaying meat. He also
- 37:11Speaker 1: noticed that the interior was dimly lit, but he could
- 37:14Speaker 1: see no actual light source. As Alfred says in his
- 37:20Speaker 1: own words, there was a light. It was very dim
- 37:23Speaker 1: and everything appeared black. That's the funny part. I didn't
- 37:27Speaker 1: see anything like that, meaning a light, but there was
- 37:31Speaker 1: a light in there, whether it was around the ridge
- 37:33Speaker 1: of the ceiling. The inside of the craft was all black.
- 37:37Speaker 1: When I walked across the floor, I didn't hear my
- 37:40Speaker 1: own footsteps, so I got the impression that there was
- 37:43Speaker 1: some sort of cloth down on the floor. The ceiling
- 37:48Speaker 1: was only about five feet high, and it was as
- 37:51Speaker 1: much as I could do to get into it. I
- 37:54Speaker 1: am five foot four and a half inches, so they
- 37:57Speaker 1: were a shade shorter than I am. I had to
- 38:00Speaker 1: bob down going into the door, and the light was
- 38:04Speaker 1: good enough to see where we were going. But once
- 38:06Speaker 1: we got inside there was a dim light, but this
- 38:10Speaker 1: must have been due to the blackness of it. Presently,
- 38:14Speaker 1: a voice said, in broken English, come over and stand
- 38:18Speaker 1: under the amber light. Well. Right in the center of
- 38:23Speaker 1: the floor, there was a column that went up about
- 38:26Speaker 1: four feet in circumference. This column that was in the
- 38:30Speaker 1: middle of the floor, there was a Z shaped handle
- 38:34Speaker 1: on it, such as you might see on a well,
- 38:37Speaker 1: and there was a form a being standing on either
- 38:40Speaker 1: side of that. There were two different forms from those
- 38:44Speaker 1: that had accompanied me along the canal path. I took
- 38:48Speaker 1: it to be these two forms were standing by ready
- 38:51Speaker 1: to wind the gear that drove it. That is only
- 38:55Speaker 1: my suspicion. At first I couldn't see an amber light,
- 38:59Speaker 1: but when I I stepped to one side, I could
- 39:01Speaker 1: see the light on the wall. I walked over and
- 39:05Speaker 1: stood under the light, and this voice asked me to
- 39:08Speaker 1: come over and stand under the light. Asked me what
- 39:12Speaker 1: is your age? I said, I shall be seventy eight
- 39:17Speaker 1: next birthday. So at this point, says Alfred, there was
- 39:22Speaker 1: a pause. The et said, in a kind of sing
- 39:26Speaker 1: song voice, turn around. Alfred obeyed. He turned around, faced
- 39:32Speaker 1: the wall remained there, he said, for a good five minutes.
- 39:36Speaker 1: He was able to get a good look at the
- 39:38Speaker 1: craft at this point and was very much impressed by
- 39:41Speaker 1: its flawless construction. As Alfred says, whoever built that thing
- 39:47Speaker 1: certainly made a good job of it. There were no nuts, bolts, joints,
- 39:51Speaker 1: or welds that I could see, I reckon. I was
- 39:55Speaker 1: in there a good half hour. I had to wait
- 39:58Speaker 1: for a while with this chap standing around me. So finally,
- 40:03Speaker 1: after about five minutes of waiting, the et responded and
- 40:07Speaker 1: said you can go. You are too old and infirm
- 40:12Speaker 1: for our purpose. And at this point, Alfred says, I
- 40:20Speaker 1: looked around, and when he said you can go, I
- 40:24Speaker 1: came down. As I was coming down holding the banister
- 40:28Speaker 1: rail on the steps, I felt two joints in it,
- 40:32Speaker 1: which gave me the impression that the steps were telescopic
- 40:35Speaker 1: and folded up in it. Anyway, I came down and
- 40:39Speaker 1: got about twenty or thirty yards from them, and then
- 40:42Speaker 1: turned around and watched it. It had a turret on
- 40:46Speaker 1: top of it, very much like an inverted saucer, but
- 40:50Speaker 1: it looked like a cowl like you would have on
- 40:52Speaker 1: top of a chimney, but instead of going around clockwise,
- 40:55Speaker 1: it went anti clockwise. I carried on back to where
- 40:59Speaker 1: my daughter and my tackle were, and the first thing
- 41:02Speaker 1: I did was to pick up my cup of cold
- 41:05Speaker 1: tea and drank it. Still watching, I saw it lift
- 41:09Speaker 1: up about three hundred feet and it shot off to
- 41:12Speaker 1: the southwest, over the military cemetery and out of sight.
- 41:17Speaker 1: So Alfred says, this object took off, it made a
- 41:21Speaker 1: loud whining noise, and other than the initial shock when
- 41:25Speaker 1: the beings first approached him, at no time did he
- 41:28Speaker 1: feel any real fear. As he says in his own words,
- 41:34Speaker 1: I was more curious than anything. At my age nearly
- 41:38Speaker 1: seventy eight. What if I got to worry about I
- 41:41Speaker 1: can only die once. I had read about UFOs and
- 41:45Speaker 1: I didn't believe in them up to then. I took
- 41:48Speaker 1: the UFOs to be a lot of bunk. Well, I
- 41:51Speaker 1: definitely do now, and seeing is believing. I don't give
- 41:56Speaker 1: a damn who believes it or who doesn't, but I
- 41:59Speaker 1: definitely I went into that machine. I definitely wasn't scared,
- 42:04Speaker 1: just curious and I wanted to see what was going on.
- 42:08Speaker 1: If they had taken off with me, then it would
- 42:10Speaker 1: have been just my lot. It would have been just
- 42:13Speaker 1: the same as me going out on the street and
- 42:16Speaker 1: being knocked down. I wasn't scared or anything like that.
- 42:20Speaker 1: I was just curious. I've spent many years out of
- 42:24Speaker 1: doors and tackled many things in Canada, shot a bear, rattlers, wolves.
- 42:30Speaker 1: I don't think I'm scared of anything now. At the
- 42:34Speaker 1: time all of this was going on, Alfred was wondering
- 42:37Speaker 1: if these beings, these figures were perhaps Russian or Chinese spies,
- 42:42Speaker 1: and was only later after hearing others report UFOs that
- 42:45Speaker 1: he began to wonder about other explanations. Alfred did admit
- 42:51Speaker 1: that he was quote mildly disappointed that the etes had
- 42:55Speaker 1: no use for him, but he took the whole experience
- 42:59Speaker 1: in stride. After the UFO left, he went on fishing,
- 43:03Speaker 1: catching several fish. He walked home. On his way home,
- 43:07Speaker 1: he encountered two policemen told him a little bit about
- 43:10Speaker 1: his experience, and they seemed very much believing. In fact,
- 43:15Speaker 1: one told him, yes, I dare say you did see
- 43:18Speaker 1: a UFO. I expect they were checking on our military installations,
- 43:24Speaker 1: and as it turns out, there are, in fact quite
- 43:26Speaker 1: a few military establishments in that area. So Alfred went
- 43:32Speaker 1: home and he wasn't going to tell his wife. Her
- 43:37Speaker 1: friend was there. He didn't want to talk about it,
- 43:40Speaker 1: but his wife could see that Alfred was quite upset
- 43:43Speaker 1: and insisted on knowing what happened, so he did. He
- 43:47Speaker 1: shared his story with her with his wife's friend also
- 43:52Speaker 1: told his son, and later he wrote to the newspaper,
- 43:57Speaker 1: not really sharing his encounter at all, but just to
- 44:00Speaker 1: asking if anybody had reported any strange lights in the
- 44:04Speaker 1: area on that night, and the reporter became curious and
- 44:09Speaker 1: actually called Alfred back. And this is how we ended
- 44:13Speaker 1: up hearing about this case because the newspaper reporter realized
- 44:19Speaker 1: Alfred had had a major encounter and referred him to
- 44:23Speaker 1: an investigator. Now, Alfred's wife, Marjorie says, and I quote
- 44:30Speaker 1: what alf told you was the absolute truth. My friend
- 44:34Speaker 1: who was with me when alf came home, can verify
- 44:36Speaker 1: what he said. He looked absolutely shaken, and he told
- 44:40Speaker 1: both of us about his experience that he had with
- 44:42Speaker 1: the UFO. I was a bit frightened when he told me,
- 44:46Speaker 1: but I did not take any more notice. It has
- 44:50Speaker 1: been bothering him ever since, and he has been losing
- 44:53Speaker 1: sleep over it. He obviously believes what he saw, and
- 44:57Speaker 1: I believe him. So after Alfred told his story, she
- 45:02Speaker 1: turned to him and said, no more fishing for you now.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Alfred was interviewed many times by researchers and reporters, and
- 45:12Speaker 1: he told them that it was quote, the greatest experience
- 45:16Speaker 1: of his life. He did return to the site two
- 45:19Speaker 1: days later and saw where the UFO had landed, that
- 45:22Speaker 1: the vegetation was all flattened and in disarray, but not
- 45:28Speaker 1: planning on ever telling anybody, fearing ridicule and disbelief. He
- 45:33Speaker 1: had no interest in collecting any type of evidence or
- 45:36Speaker 1: trying to prove his encounter. He did say that following
- 45:40Speaker 1: his encounter he experienced a loss of appetite and some
- 45:44Speaker 1: resulting weight loss. But the case got quite a bit
- 45:48Speaker 1: of attention. It was covered in many books, such as
- 45:52Speaker 1: by Jenny Randalls and Timothy Good. Gordon Crayton, editor of
- 45:57Speaker 1: The Flying Saucer Review, writes, and I quote it will
- 46:02Speaker 1: be noticed that this account contains several features that are
- 46:06Speaker 1: already familiar to us from other cases. There is, for example,
- 46:10Speaker 1: the central stem or pillar inside the craft, which has
- 46:14Speaker 1: appeared on several reports and has been claimed by some
- 46:18Speaker 1: investigators to be a polarized magnetic contraption intimately related to
- 46:24Speaker 1: the secret method of propulsion employed by the ets, or
- 46:28Speaker 1: at any rate, some of them now. A researcher, Hillary Reporter,
- 46:33Speaker 1: visited the site several times over the years and was
- 46:37Speaker 1: surprised to see that this area was now being guarded
- 46:40Speaker 1: by fully armed soldiers dressed in black. Timothy Good interviewed
- 46:47Speaker 1: the witness, Alfred Bertut, and came away absolutely convinced of
- 46:52Speaker 1: the case. As Timothy Good says in his own words.
- 46:56Speaker 1: It is a very important case and quite exciting. I
- 46:59Speaker 1: am convinced he is telling the truth and his was
- 47:03Speaker 1: a genuine experience. This is one of the most convincing
- 47:06Speaker 1: close encounter cases I have investigated. There is no doubt
- 47:10Speaker 1: in my mind that he was taken on board in
- 47:13Speaker 1: alien craft. Another investigator who interviewed Alfred in depth is
- 47:20Speaker 1: Omar Fowler, and he writes, we can confirm that a
- 47:25Speaker 1: number of the incidents he said occurred are consistent with
- 47:29Speaker 1: known UFO characteristics. This is really an exciting case. I
- 47:35Speaker 1: believe it to be genuine. I am convinced his story
- 47:38Speaker 1: is absolutely true and this actually happened. Interestingly, following Alfred's encounter,
- 47:46Speaker 1: there was in fact a wave of sightings in the area. Now. Unfortunately,
- 47:52Speaker 1: about three years following his encounter in nineteen eighty six,
- 47:56Speaker 1: Alfred Ertu passed away at age eighty after a long illness.
- 48:02Speaker 1: But it's certainly an interesting case. One of the more
- 48:05Speaker 1: interesting things I think is how this witness, Alfred, just
- 48:10Speaker 1: like Paolo described how these rooms were very short in height,
- 48:15Speaker 1: too short for a person to even stand up in.
- 48:20Speaker 1: So what a case that is. I think it's hard
- 48:23Speaker 1: to disbelieve this case, certainly with people like Timothy good
- 48:30Speaker 1: saying that this is a legitimate case, or one of
- 48:32Speaker 1: the main investigators, Omar Fowler, calling it one of the
- 48:36Speaker 1: best cases he's ever researched. It's a super, super interesting case.
- 48:43Speaker 1: And it's really unfortunate that the witness has now passed
- 48:49Speaker 1: on because it would have been very fascinating to speak
- 48:52Speaker 1: with him. But wow, what a case. And now we
- 48:56Speaker 1: move on to another case, which I call we Are
- 49:02Speaker 1: Your Friends. This is the last case I'm going to
- 49:05Speaker 1: be covering today. I don't have the exact location of
- 49:09Speaker 1: this case, but it occurred somewhere in the United States,
- 49:13Speaker 1: somewhere in the Midwest, I believe, and occurred in the
- 49:19Speaker 1: year nineteen ninety. This is a singular event I will
- 49:23Speaker 1: be describing, but it comes from a witness who's had
- 49:27Speaker 1: a lifetime of encounters who felt it was important to
- 49:31Speaker 1: share this one experience to let other people know that
- 49:35Speaker 1: they are not alone. That's certainly one of the reasons
- 49:39Speaker 1: I do this research because I think the onboard experience
- 49:43Speaker 1: is far far more common than most people realize, and
- 49:47Speaker 1: most people aren't talking about it. Thankfully, that is changing
- 49:51Speaker 1: thanks to cases like this one. Although the exact date
- 49:55Speaker 1: and location of this case is not stated, this is
- 49:58Speaker 1: a first hand account of an onboard encounter from someone
- 50:03Speaker 1: who did reveal her real name, Sharon Beals. She's a
- 50:07Speaker 1: medical researcher, and I think the case has some important
- 50:10Speaker 1: things to teach us about ET's In an article for
- 50:14Speaker 1: UFO Encounter's magazine, she wrote about this one experience, and
- 50:19Speaker 1: she's had many of her close onboard encounter It began
- 50:24Speaker 1: one evening around four thirty am nineteen ninety or thereabouts,
- 50:29Speaker 1: when she woke up to hear a loud, buzzing noise
- 50:32Speaker 1: over the house, and looking up through the skylight, she
- 50:36Speaker 1: saw a quote, fairly large white light moving overhead. This
- 50:42Speaker 1: was followed by another smaller one which was moving in
- 50:45Speaker 1: an irregular pattern. Now being near sighted, Sharon went to
- 50:50Speaker 1: go get her glasses and it was at this exact
- 50:54Speaker 1: moment that her coo year old daughter, Kelly came running in. Now,
- 50:59Speaker 1: Kelly had been complet leaning recently about monsters and quote,
- 51:02Speaker 1: sky monkeys, so she comes running into the room and
- 51:08Speaker 1: is holding on to Sharon, and the next thing Sharon knows,
- 51:12Speaker 1: hours have passed. She and Kelly are now both waking up,
- 51:17Speaker 1: and the previous anxiety that she had been feeling that
- 51:21Speaker 1: evening was now replaced by quote an absolute sense of peace.
- 51:28Speaker 1: But then she found a couple of weird things which
- 51:31Speaker 1: helped her to understand that this had been a much
- 51:34Speaker 1: more extensive encounter. She found out that her eyeglasses were
- 51:39Speaker 1: completely bent out of shape, as you can see here
- 51:43Speaker 1: from Sharon's drawing, and then she went to change Kelly's
- 51:47Speaker 1: diapers and was absolutely shocked to see that they were
- 51:50Speaker 1: filled with pine needles. This made no sense whatsoever, but
- 51:54Speaker 1: it was a clear indication that something had happened, so
- 51:59Speaker 1: she decided to seek help. She contacted c Lee Culver,
- 52:04Speaker 1: a hypnotherapist and UFO researcher, and he agreed to place
- 52:08Speaker 1: her under hypnotic regression and was under hypnosis that she
- 52:13Speaker 1: recalled seeing two figures come into her room, and the
- 52:17Speaker 1: next thing she knows, she and her two year old daughter,
- 52:21Speaker 1: Kelly are being lifted up into the sky. Sharon then
- 52:25Speaker 1: reports feeling a sense of paralysis an inability to open
- 52:30Speaker 1: her eyes, but when she finally was able to, she
- 52:33Speaker 1: found herself in a rounded room surrounded by short humanoids
- 52:38Speaker 1: with large oval eyes, a small nose, a slit for
- 52:43Speaker 1: a mouth, large bald heads, and a long neck and arms.
- 52:48Speaker 1: She said they were pale skinned and were all working
- 52:51Speaker 1: quite quietly. It was no real sound at all going
- 52:54Speaker 1: out of the room. As Sharon says, it is very quiet,
- 52:59Speaker 1: like everyone has a job and they are very focused,
- 53:02Speaker 1: and there doesn't seem to be any emotion. Now Sharon
- 53:07Speaker 1: couldn't see her daughter at this point, but mentally, as
- 53:10Speaker 1: though with a telepathic wrapport, she could see that Kelly
- 53:15Speaker 1: was being physically examined by the ETS on a table.
- 53:19Speaker 1: She seemed to be unhappy about it, Kelly and was
- 53:22Speaker 1: resisting it, and the ETS were telling her it's okay,
- 53:26Speaker 1: don't worry, it's okay. At this point, one of the
- 53:30Speaker 1: grays walked right up to Sharon, placed its face right
- 53:34Speaker 1: in front of hers and stared at her. This is
- 53:38Speaker 1: something we do often hear in close encounter reports, and
- 53:41Speaker 1: this et told Sharon telepathically there's no harm coming to you,
- 53:47Speaker 1: to your baby, No harm, no hurt. And then she
- 53:51Speaker 1: could physically see her daughter laying on a flat bed.
- 53:55Speaker 1: She saw another human boy there being apparently examined. She
- 54:00Speaker 1: says she was then taken into another room where she
- 54:03Speaker 1: saw this strange looking being sitting behind a desk. This
- 54:07Speaker 1: was a little different from the others she had seen.
- 54:10Speaker 1: This being had wrinkled skin, tan in color, and had
- 54:15Speaker 1: this weird sort of golden V shaped instrument attached to
- 54:19Speaker 1: its forehead. She said that this being had large blue eyes,
- 54:24Speaker 1: a very small nose in mouth. It wore a fitted
- 54:27Speaker 1: uniform with a starlike emblem on its left chest, and
- 54:32Speaker 1: she did have the feeling that this being was the boss,
- 54:34Speaker 1: was the one in charge. And it spoke to her
- 54:37Speaker 1: again telepathically, and it said, we've been over and over this.
- 54:43Speaker 1: You're safe. You know nothing can harm you. We've been
- 54:47Speaker 1: over and over this. You shouldn't be fighting me. You
- 54:51Speaker 1: shouldn't be fighting us. Were your friends you share with us?
- 54:56Speaker 1: Do you want to save it or not? Do you
- 54:58Speaker 1: want to save the planet? So looking around, Sharon did
- 55:03Speaker 1: see several other humans in the room. They were all
- 55:06Speaker 1: pretty much sitting in a circle on the floor. She
- 55:09Speaker 1: did see her daughter, who was kind of holding lovingly
- 55:13Speaker 1: onto her, and it was interesting because nobody in the
- 55:16Speaker 1: room seemed afraid or disturbed, though pretty much all of
- 55:20Speaker 1: them seemed to be in a trance of some kind
- 55:24Speaker 1: and Sharon was surprised that she appeared to be the
- 55:26Speaker 1: only one who was fully awake and aware. Now, at
- 55:31Speaker 1: this point, an opening appeared in the center of the
- 55:35Speaker 1: floor and everyone started dropping down into separate craft. She said,
- 55:40Speaker 1: it was almost like a laundry chute, and each person
- 55:44Speaker 1: was going into the craft that had taken them up
- 55:47Speaker 1: into the bigger craft. And the next thing Sharon knew
- 55:51Speaker 1: it happened to her and she's standing with Kelly in
- 55:54Speaker 1: their front yard and they walked up to the porch
- 55:58Speaker 1: steps and tried to open the front door, but it
- 56:00Speaker 1: was locked. They were locked outside, and it was at
- 56:04Speaker 1: this moment that something very interesting happened. A large V
- 56:08Speaker 1: shaped craft appeared overhead, and Kelly had the strong impression
- 56:12Speaker 1: it was a facilitator. This craft picked her and Kelly
- 56:17Speaker 1: up and put them back inside, transporting them through the
- 56:22Speaker 1: roof of their home. And as they were set down,
- 56:27Speaker 1: her little daughter, Kelly sat up and smashed her head
- 56:30Speaker 1: against Sharon's glasses, completely bending them out of shape. So
- 56:35Speaker 1: now Sharon had her answer, and she knew what happened
- 56:38Speaker 1: to her glasses. She knew what happened during this missing time,
- 56:43Speaker 1: and following the session, she was absolutely amazed by the
- 56:46Speaker 1: depth and detail of her recall, and as she wrote
- 56:50Speaker 1: in her article and I quote, it's time to find
- 56:54Speaker 1: out what's going on. I went to bed that night
- 56:58Speaker 1: after the session hond vring everything in the universe, God, spaceships,
- 57:04Speaker 1: alien beings, and the future of our planet lying there,
- 57:09Speaker 1: I committed myself to finding the truth behind these lifelong experiences.
- 57:14Speaker 1: What I particularly love about that case is the witness
- 57:18Speaker 1: gave a very long, firsthand account of exactly what happened
- 57:23Speaker 1: to her, and she saw quite a few other people
- 57:26Speaker 1: on board the craft as well. That does involve her daughter,
- 57:30Speaker 1: which shows that this is, as we know, often a
- 57:35Speaker 1: generational experience, and a lot of the details she describes
- 57:40Speaker 1: are certainly ones we've heard before. It's all around a
- 57:44Speaker 1: fascinating case. So there you go. That's our show for today.
- 57:49Speaker 1: Five amazing onboard UFO encounters of all different kinds, involving
- 57:55Speaker 1: all different types of ETS cases coming from all over
- 57:59Speaker 1: the world, stretching back decades up to the nineteen nineties.
- 58:05Speaker 1: So that's quite an interesting perspective there, and I think
- 58:09Speaker 1: teaches us quite a bit about what it's like to
- 58:12Speaker 1: have an ET encounter and who these ets are and
- 58:16Speaker 1: why they're here on this planet. I think it's becoming
- 58:19Speaker 1: almost undeniable at this point that this is a real thing.
- 58:24Speaker 1: Skeptics don't have a leg to stand on. I think
- 58:27Speaker 1: if someone is truly skeptical of UFOs and on board experiences,
- 58:33Speaker 1: they simply haven't done their research. The evidence is overwhelming.
- 58:39Speaker 1: Disclosure has happened, The ets have provided us enough information
- 58:44Speaker 1: to make solid conclusions about what's going on. We don't
- 58:48Speaker 1: need our governments to tell us this is real. There
- 58:51Speaker 1: are so many cases it's already obvious that there is
- 58:56Speaker 1: validity to this phenomenon. So there you go. Hope you've
- 59:00Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. I truly appreciate you watching, and it's
- 59:05Speaker 1: as always, please ask those important questions, keep looking for
- 59:10Speaker 1: the truth, and most important of all, keep having fun
- 59:15Speaker 1: until next time. Buy for now,