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Who Gets to be Native in America? A conversation with the author of 'The Indian Card.' Plus, the rise of 'HillmanTok'

Due South’s Leoneda Inge talks with Carrie Lowry Schuettpelz, an enrolled member of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina and director of the Native Policy Lab at the University of Iowa, about her recently published book, The Indian Card: Who Gets to be Native in America.

Then, NC A&T professor Leah Barlow made a TikTok for the 35 students in her Intro to African American Studies class. It ended up reaching millions and inspired an online network of Black educators providing free lectures called “HillmanTok.” (This encore interview originally aired in March 2025.)

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