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Oklahoma Sooners 2026 Class Is Complete With More UPSIDE Thank You Imagine! · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: on today's episode of The Sooner or Later Sports Show,
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  Speaker 1: we got a lot of fun things to dive into.
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  Speaker 1: Plus we've got a special guest that's gonna pull up.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the twenty twenty six class because
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  Speaker 1: it's officially national signing Day. We'll talk about the portal
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  Speaker 1: entries as well well the portal acquisitions and what that
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  Speaker 1: actually means. We will wrap things up with who he
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  Speaker 1: expects to break out, especially since now it's time for
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  Speaker 1: that twenty twenty three class to pull up. Oh man,
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  Speaker 1: sorry about that, y'all. We had some issues on the
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  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and get this fixed up. But I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate y'all pulling up and joining. I got a special
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  Speaker 1: guest with me today. Coop is out sick. He is
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  Speaker 1: fighting the kooties. It's like everybody else is. But my
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  Speaker 1: guy's also dealing with a little something. But he's in.
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  Speaker 1: We've got our guy, Colin Kennedy two four seven, sooner's illustrated.
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  Speaker 1: It's the C. K and J Show. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: My man? I am gonna go ahead and apologize. This
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  Speaker 2: is about, as you know, least camera ready as I've
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  Speaker 2: ever been in my career. But when he texted me says, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going live by myself for fifteen minutes. You want
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  Speaker 2: to hop on the show? You answer the celebrities call. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I was fighting a little bit of a migraine. I
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  Speaker 2: popped a nick pouch, throwing some appropriate clothes and hopefully
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  Speaker 2: we get through this thing. But before we dive into
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  Speaker 2: the show, if I could do something as I try
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  Speaker 2: Can we get that to twenty one? Can we go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and get this twenty one? So make sure you're
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  Speaker 2: subscribing to the show. My God does a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Coop does a great job. I hope he's feeling better.
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  Speaker 2: And if I mess up today, because I'm not feeling
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  Speaker 2: too great myself, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Colin said that he had to jump in as soon
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  Speaker 1: as I hit him, and I appreciate it, man, You know,
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  Speaker 1: I always love to get you get that audible going.
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  Speaker 1: But we've been talking about this for a bit, travel
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  Speaker 1: schedules being crazy on both ends. But I'm so glad
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  Speaker 1: that we were able to really get down because this
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  Speaker 1: is the perfect opportunity to chop it up with you.
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  Speaker 1: I know that over there as soon as Illustrated you've
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  Speaker 1: got all the notes and details about the class, they'll
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  Speaker 1: definitely talk about it over there on their YouTube channel,
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  Speaker 1: So please go subscribe and show them some love. If
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  Speaker 1: you want the insider info, definitely go check them out.
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  Speaker 1: Got a promo probably going as well, so we'll make
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  Speaker 1: sure to plug that right before the first commercial break.
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  Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk really about first. I want
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  Speaker 1: to open with this though, and and Ck, I want
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  Speaker 1: you to you know, hear your boy out and tell
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  Speaker 1: me what you think on this initial before we jump
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  Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty sixth class. And this is more
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  Speaker 1: so a big shout out to the viewers here and
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  Speaker 1: how majority of you always come in here with very good,
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  Speaker 1: level headed conversations, critiques all of that. Most of you do.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some folks that I don't understand what y'all
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  Speaker 1: be thinking. And let me explain what I mean. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of y'all are mad at me. From the last
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  Speaker 1: video we had on Sunday when we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and talking about how I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: mad at Jaydeen not some of y'all are pissed. Some
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  Speaker 1: of y'all said, y'all were disappointed in me. I'm like disappointed. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that hit me hard. Like I guess we have a
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  Speaker 1: different thought process in the fact that I get that
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna sometimes you're gonna miss, you're gonna with on
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  Speaker 1: a player, but y'all are really mad at that dude.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't I'm not saying y'all are
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  Speaker 1: wrong for being mad. I totally get it, but man,
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  Speaker 1: y'all was going off on me, and I think I
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  Speaker 1: lost like fifteen subs because of that. Like, people are
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  Speaker 1: pissed at that situation, right, I'm like, dang, we're there.
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  Speaker 1: So see Cam, curious about your thoughts when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the whole Senior Bowl thing. We'll talk about a
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  Speaker 1: couple of players, but really the odd situation.
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  Speaker 2: Man, j not Saga as I call it, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly where are you leading now? As we've gotten passed
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit further removed from how all this
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  Speaker 1: stuff was going down.
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  Speaker 2: I wish it was over first and foremost. That was
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  Speaker 2: one of the first things I talked about on our
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  Speaker 2: pod was just like the moment you think you're out
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  Speaker 2: of the jade and not Saga, it pulls you back in.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm getting sick and tired of it because it
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  Speaker 2: creates such a toxic environment. Yeah, by way of people
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  Speaker 2: who otherwise would be talking about, you know, good good things.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is the off season, it's good vibes.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, we're supposed to be talking to Oklahoma football,
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  Speaker 2: and yet Jay not, that cloud still hovers over all
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  Speaker 2: of us. And so this is my thought on it.
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  Speaker 2: I am leaning more towards your side. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: have missus. Was it arguably, you know, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say catastrophic miss, but it's a pretty substantial miss
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  Speaker 2: when you consider number one the financial loss, but the
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  Speaker 2: number two the potential impact that he was expected to have.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if a running back of that caliber
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  Speaker 2: of Jade not meets the expectation level and they have
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  Speaker 2: that element in their offense last season, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's a game changer, right, And so I think I
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  Speaker 2: totally understand where people are coming from with the frustration.
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  Speaker 2: And also you see some of the stuff out there,
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  Speaker 2: and you we all have heard some of the stories. Right,
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  Speaker 2: it is okay to be mad about a lot of that.
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  Speaker 2: But I am more with you because I say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: especially me working in like the recruiting space, it's like
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  Speaker 2: you're only as good as what you learn from your missus. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's where I'm at is, you know what, man,
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  Speaker 2: if this is gonna happen, get it out of the way,
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  Speaker 2: and get it out of the way early in a
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  Speaker 2: year where you went to the playoff. Now make sure
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen again. And whatever lessons learned applied that
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  Speaker 2: moving forward, and hey, your operation just got a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot better. And if it means that this jade not
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  Speaker 2: saga leads to that somewhere down the road, I'm okay
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where and I'm the same thing like you
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  Speaker 1: just you know, you live, you learn, you get loves,
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  Speaker 1: you get past it, and you understand it. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we screwed up, don't do don't let it happen again.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think they will. I mean correction, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen again in some capacity because you can't bat
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  Speaker 1: a thousand, it's impossible. And so like that's more so
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  Speaker 1: like I'm trying to tell a lot of people, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of y'all is I get being upset. You won't.
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  Speaker 1: You won't. You won't get me saying that, oh, you
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  Speaker 1: guys are wrong for feeling upset. No, I'm not. I'll
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  Speaker 1: never tell you that. I'm just not because it's just
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  Speaker 1: just like well, like you said, if he would have
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  Speaker 1: came in and been great, oh my gosh, we wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be saying a word. We'd be happy. But because we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get what we wanted, I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people are upset about it, and that's okay. So that
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  Speaker 1: being said, that's the closing chapter for me on that.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about, a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about. We've got the twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: recruiting class done. We added a recruit this morning. Me
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  Speaker 1: and me and Colin was talking about it last night
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  Speaker 1: at that after Jim Naggy put that tweet out him like, brother,
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  Speaker 1: who is this? He's like, I don't know. Now he
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  Speaker 1: wake up this morning, he's got an article done and
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  Speaker 1: he's ready to go. And but no, I am very
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  Speaker 1: happy and excited about what the possibility is with this
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  Speaker 1: Lebron Bauer kid, mainly because when I saw that markel Ford,
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  Speaker 1: that's overly excited here, he's over the moon.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, when dudes are excited about they boys getting there
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  Speaker 1: and they talk about getting it out the mud and
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  Speaker 1: they gonna be busting, they tail the play as true freshman,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all ears now, I'm all there's so as you
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  Speaker 1: went through in preparation of putting this stuff out around,
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  Speaker 1: mister Lebron, how do you feel about sex?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know as well as anybody, because like you said,
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  Speaker 2: we were texting about this player last night and I
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  Speaker 2: told you, hey, Lebron Dower committed tomorrow and I had
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  Speaker 2: you watch the tape and we swapped you got my
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  Speaker 2: unfiltered opinion last night, Did you or did you not?
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  Speaker 2: Here's what my calculating an objective stance would be. I
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  Speaker 2: think that there are two very distinct opinions on this edition. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: one is a lot of optimism and a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fans are saying, hey, I like it. I can understand it.
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  Speaker 2: And there are other fans or people out there who
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  Speaker 2: I got a few texts last night and into this
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  Speaker 2: morning asking or sharing their personal opinion of maybe a
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  Speaker 2: different preference. And for me, I've followed lebron Bauer for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. He's out in Allen. I'm over here
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  Speaker 2: in Louisville. It's like a half hour drive and I've
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  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time at Allen on the seven
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  Speaker 2: on seventh circuit. Lebron Bauer trains with one of the
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  Speaker 2: best defensive backs trainers in the country and coach Flight,
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  Speaker 2: who I know well, and so he's learned from one
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  Speaker 2: of the best in all of America. Flights clients are
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  Speaker 2: like Devin Witherspoon and Christian Gonzales, whor playing with weekends
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  Speaker 2: of this guy. You know he's trained Lebron Bauer, and
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  Speaker 2: then he's played at Allen, He's played at high level.
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  Speaker 2: I think two things can be true. Number One, lebron
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  Speaker 2: Bauer is someone who cares and understands the defensive back position.
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  Speaker 2: I will take that, especially at a position like dB
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  Speaker 2: right where it's hard to find guys who can play there.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to find guys who are versatile and can
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  Speaker 2: bring that level of play to a number of different
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  Speaker 2: positions in the secondary. I think that's what lebron Bauer does. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Is he a little bit lower on the ratings scale
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  Speaker 2: because the physical makeup? Maybe some of the athletic markers
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  Speaker 2: are not all that comparable to some of his peers. Maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but we're again, we're also talking about four and five
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  Speaker 2: star guys that are unbelievable athletes, and maybe they need
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more polished though to play dB. True.
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  Speaker 2: What I was telling someone this morning as I was
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  Speaker 2: texting you and I was texting a lot of colleagues
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  Speaker 2: and friends about Lebron was like, I think we really
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  Speaker 2: have to start wrapping our head around these powerful programs
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  Speaker 2: asking themselves, Hey, how much do you value a roster
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  Speaker 2: spot being occupied at a relatively competitive level for the
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  Speaker 2: next two to three years. And it turns out the
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  Speaker 2: answer is they value that a whole lot, right, And
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  Speaker 2: a guy like lebron Bauer kind of reminds me of
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  Speaker 2: an old school signing day take where you would see
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  Speaker 2: a Georgia or in Alabama or in Oklahoma take a
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  Speaker 2: flyer on a guy that they had they liked on
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  Speaker 2: the board, but they didn't know if the spot was
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  Speaker 2: going to be available, or they wanted to see some
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  Speaker 2: senior tape. And I think that lebron Bauer answered a
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  Speaker 2: lot of questions. He checked some boxes. Oklahoma had a
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  Speaker 2: late vacancy at corner. They told you that during the
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  Speaker 2: December signing period, right, they did, they did, and the
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  Speaker 2: stars aligned. And because of all this combined, I'm okay
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  Speaker 2: with taking lebron Bauer. And I'm excited for the kid
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  Speaker 2: because he's worked his butt off behind the scenes to
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  Speaker 2: get to an opportunity like this. He's known markel Ford
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  Speaker 2: since he was a kid, so he gets to go
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  Speaker 2: and be with someone that he's known since childhood. And
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  Speaker 2: for Oklahoma, you're taking a guy that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to like here in at the very least, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get a guy who's gonna give it his all in practice,
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  Speaker 2: maybe give you some snaps in the third phase. Who
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  Speaker 2: knows what the future holds, but he wants to be
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  Speaker 2: there and he's going to potentially be around for a while.
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  Speaker 1: And so, as you mentioned we were texting talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: I saw some of the I saw a lot of
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  Speaker 1: attributes of actual players we have on the roster today.
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  Speaker 1: Now I want you to hear your boy out. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to me when I say this. When I initially started
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  Speaker 1: watching his younger tape sophomore year, which I heard that
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  Speaker 1: he was pretty coveted as a freshman, one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest issues he's just stopped growing. Now Alan has him
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  Speaker 1: listed now the school measured him at six foot one
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  Speaker 1: seventy one seventy like one, so I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: true that is, but looking at his bench in numbers
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  Speaker 1: and all of that.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you that I've got some of the
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  Speaker 2: mind data stuff and he's verified at about five eleven
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  Speaker 2: in a shade and probably about one sixty five one seventy.
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  Speaker 1: So that's they gave him. They gave him a little extra,
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  Speaker 1: which is okay, right, I'm not gonna I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you do the recruiting two and ten, you go,
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  Speaker 2: it's about I have an ent or two down and
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  Speaker 2: ten pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly and that's and that now and exactly that. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking between five ten, five eleven.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not bad. I'm okay with that. We have
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  Speaker 1: corners like that. But when I watched him, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna put this up here because I think this is
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  Speaker 1: what why people why want people to understand why I
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  Speaker 1: was saying this Initially watching him in a sophomore tape
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  Speaker 1: and then looking at senior tape, I saw a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of Courtland Guillery and that's the dog side of them.
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  Speaker 1: And then I saw a little bit of JJ Newcomb,
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  Speaker 1: who came from Arizona. I saw some of that with
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  Speaker 1: the physicality with them. And this is why I say
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  Speaker 1: that Now, I don't I don't think that he today.
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  Speaker 1: He's not Courtland Guillery level of ability. He's not there yet.
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  Speaker 1: He's got work to do. True, this jumped out to me.
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  Speaker 1: Dog six block punts, four blocked field goals, three all
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  Speaker 1: side kick recoveries. You know what that means. Screw the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the stuff. Those three things right there tell
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  Speaker 1: me one thing. Dude has effort and he is not
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  Speaker 1: gonna stop playing hard. You can't get that from a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people, right Like that is a When I
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  Speaker 1: saw that, I'm like, oh, that is impressive. I am
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  Speaker 1: impressed with the fact that you can get four block
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  Speaker 1: field goals six block punts, like you have to actually hustle.
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  Speaker 1: That's the Peyton Bowen said. That was the thing that
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  Speaker 1: I loved most about Peyton Bowen is that I knew
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  Speaker 1: that he was gonna give you all kinds of effort.
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  Speaker 1: That impressed the hell out of me with that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: look at the numbers, everything else cool. Those three things said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is why, And Naggie said it couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 1: I recall him saying, screw the ratings system and all
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  Speaker 1: of that. Focal point here is we want dudes with
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  Speaker 1: some dog in them. We want dudes that that grind,
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  Speaker 1: ready to work hard. Brian Bauer may not be at
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  Speaker 1: the attributes level yet, he may not be at the
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  Speaker 1: skill set just yet, but damn if it ain't gonna
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  Speaker 1: be because of trying. Like if he doesn't get there,
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  Speaker 1: it ain't gonna because he was lazy. Those things make
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  Speaker 1: me feel like he's got the effort and the mentality
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  Speaker 1: to try to be as successful as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I it's interesting. I my passion for football theory
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  Speaker 2: and evaluation Over the last few years. I was lucky
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  Speaker 2: enough to read like a pamphlet that Nick Saban helped
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  Speaker 2: put together about scouting players. And you know, he's a
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  Speaker 2: big guy. And one sentence that I read from Nick
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  Speaker 2: Saban in this like scouting study that I was doing
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  Speaker 2: was Saban talked about, how, look, we can talk about
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  Speaker 2: heart and hustle all we want, but if you've got
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  Speaker 2: a roster full of heart and hustle type guys, you're
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  Speaker 2: just gonna lose games in like a really emotional way.
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  Speaker 2: But his counter to that was, if you have guys
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  Speaker 2: who care and they have the elements to be a
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  Speaker 2: good football player long term, and they have clear ability
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  Speaker 2: and talent, then you have the perfect mixture to go
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  Speaker 2: out and win games in the short term the long term.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of what lebron Bauer is here,
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  Speaker 2: right YEP. I don't view him as strictly a herd
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  Speaker 2: and hustle guy. If I did, there would be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Why I think Oklahoma finn should be excited about this
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  Speaker 2: player is kind of what I was discussing earlier, this
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  Speaker 2: is someone who can play all three positions in the
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  Speaker 2: defensive backfield, perimeter, corner, I could see, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: boundary field stuff, maybe safety and slot. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: the ability to kick inside and guard in the interior.
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  Speaker 2: There's also the third phase stuff, right, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Courtland Guillery you brought up, I mean Courtland Guillory is
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  Speaker 2: also an insane athlete who care and had some pretty
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  Speaker 2: incredible offensive tape. While you get excited about Lebron Bauer,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, he's getting ready to make a play
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  Speaker 2: on a ball here, this is someone who has proven
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  Speaker 2: on ball production, multiple interceptions, multiple pass breakups. I should
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  Speaker 2: mention too. Was named the twenty twenty five Alan Eagles
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  Speaker 2: team MVP by Oh boy, that's that's Allen's coaching staff
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  Speaker 2: naming him the team MVP. I would label that notable
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: because the other thing that I would bring up, the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: third phase ability, is what really stands out. You have
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: got to find guys who are going to stay in
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: your program, develop and learn your systems, and they're going
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to give it. They're all and what we all have
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: learned over the years is an incredibly important part of
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the game in special teams. If Lebron Bauer has shown
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you he's not only willing to play special teams, he's
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: going to make an impact on special teams. Will that
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: translate to the collegiate level. That's not the time to
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: debate currently, he's sure as hell going to try to
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: bring a similar impact and for that plus the other
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: reasons I mentioned, like I admire the shot taken here,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: because again, when you go down your checklist as a
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: quote unquote evaluator, there are things that green light for
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you as you're going down the list exactly.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: And now that was what jumped out to me, is
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's he's gonna play special teams and
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play it with with enthusiasm and and focus.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Which there you go. Saw that matters, right, that's what you.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: You want players that want to be here. You want
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: players that want to be on the field. And if anything,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it pushes everybody else around him because he's gonna be
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: considered to try hard or go hard. He's going hard.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Why is it going so hard? Everybody's around is gonna
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be like coach gonna be like, well, he wants to play.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: You don't want a whole bunch of dudes. That's just
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: kind of chilling, like so, yeah, I thought it was
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: a good late ev ow. I know that he mentioned
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: in one of the articles I saw that his focus
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was Arkansas. I think Arkansas was recruiting him heavy. He
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was probably gonna end up there coaching staff changes, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: then things kind of felt quote unquote fell apart, and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: from there he started to get a lot more calls
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: from from some p fours. I mean, tex of course
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: was in there. He had Arizona, Oklahoma comes here. At
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the end he had I said, Arkansas was in there, TCU.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: So you had some of the big twelves. You had,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of secs. It appears that they
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: were because of their push he and and then when
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma pulled up on him, he was like, yep, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: want this now. I'm wondering was this a jave a
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: lie special too with Naggie and the staff. I'm wondering
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: if Val was heavily involved in this. I know he
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: sent the little heart emoji deal when Val put out
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: his statement, shout out to him, I don't get to
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: ask you about that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna transition right into that, and then
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go right into the twenty sixth class the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: live bouncing out to the NFL.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: What you think, Yeah, I first of all, I'm extremely
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: happy for Vly.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, because that's oh dude, Like, I know that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: your guy. You met him a while ago.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I'm at why was one of the first coaches when
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I came back to cover Oklahoma when I came back
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: from Tennessee. I go to a lot of coaching clinics
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: down here in Texas and Val has spoken in a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: couple that I've been at, and I've been able to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: watch him present I've been around obviously when he's interacting
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: with coaches, and there was one specific presentation I watched
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: with Vly one of my first few weeks back at
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: this this clinic, and I'm watching it, I'm just like, man,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this guy like he gets it, and you can tell
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: he's an excellent teacher, and that guy cares about the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: intricacies of the position as much as anyone I've been around,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: which I do find cool and a big reason why
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: he's going to the NFL, right, but his passion for
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it right, and you can tell that all these corners
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I remember when Oh, you did the the summer practice
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: videos before this season and all the owners are making
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: fun of a lie. But they're all making fun of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a lie with him talking about you know, i's keys, responsibilities,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: all these different things about the position. And that's the lie. Man,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He's He has been very cool to watch talk about
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the defensive back position. He has helped me learn about
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: dB play and I'm always looking to acquire information as
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: someone in the evaluation space. And Valy deserves the NFL
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and I think he's going to thrive at the professional level.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I think he's built for it. He deserves it. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: know it's something he wanted to do too. And to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: get that opportunity with a guy like Jim Leonard, who
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: he knows. And by the way, like what are the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: other sharper defensive back minds in all football?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Pretty great? And beat it. Oh, by the way, like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you don't have to deal with the current landscape that
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: is college football either. So I'm fired up for thely
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And it creates one hell of a vacancy too at Oklahoma.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I know that he's always wanted to get
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: into the he wanted to get into the DC space.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I know that that's that's been the talk or whatnot
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: for him on a bit is that he had interest
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: being a divisive coordinator. And like I said, back with
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: his boy Jim Leonard, who played ball with him at Wisconsin.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: The Notre Dame one was interesting because Chris ash who
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was a coach at Wisconsin when he was a player,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was another tide. I'm just like, dang, there's so many connections,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: so many we so many webs weaved in this that
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: made me wonder how exactly I was gonna come together. So, okay,
• 22:30
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• 22:34
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• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Come back to the I do want to come back
• 22:38
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• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's let's we don't have to spend too
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  Speaker 2: much time on this. But now that the vacancy has
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: been created, ja VELI like, we just talked about big
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  Speaker 2: shoes to Phil and Norman. I thought he was someone
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: who on the staff maybe got overlooked at times for
• 25:11
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• 25:14
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• 25:18
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• 25:21
  Speaker 2: this cornerbacks coach position is going to be coveted by
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: so many damn good coaches across you know, college football
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and maybe even trickling into the NFL. And so my
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: simple question to you and to the chat, because I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: looking to the chat and I've been asking a lot
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of fans this, who do you want as the next
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Olahoma cornerbacks coach? And why I'm curious?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, Yeah, who do ILL want? So for me,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: there's so many options, Like I dropped a video right
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: after the those announcement I was leaving, and I had
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a few names that were initially on my list, so
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: my initial list, and then I started noticing that the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: list that I was putting together a lot of you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: all the experts out there and the insiders had similar
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: coaches on there. Right, Like I was looking at Xavier Brewer,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the current defensive analysts. He's been here since BV gut
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: here former Clemson players, so of course he understands the defense.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And here's a grat assistant at Clemson, so he's been
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on bv's hip for a long time. So I totally
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: could see that they would be like, you know what,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do an internal higher Now granted they didn't
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: do that with Skolski at the linebacker spot. They brought
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Wes Goodwin as well as Nate Dryling in and he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: did something different, So I'm like, Okay, possibility we're gonna
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: go on the outside. You could look at like a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Dominic Franks in Tulsa, right, he's a former player, played
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: for BV. Should understand bv's defense terminology, all that, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he's been a cornerback coach for a bit. I looked
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: at Gabe Lynn, who's now UCLA, spent time at Colorado,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and you know he's been doing some moving around. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: then it was a Chip Vinny, who's another coach. He's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: at Arizona. He spent time in Oklahoma years Oklahoma actually,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and he was here during bv's first stint. He was
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: considered one of the up and coming guys I'd been
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: hearing about for a while, and you know, Arizona's not
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: too shabby in the secondary. When he was there, he
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: had to cary O. Davis for one year and that
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: was probably his best year. So it's always an option.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But then you had to get into those names of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: people that actually have experience. The biggest one, the one
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that I'm thinking that would make the most sense, honestly,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Colin Mike Ree at Clemson. I know when BV came here,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: he was basically just you know, pillaging every single Clemson employee.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He was doing basically what a Kurt Signetti did at Indiana.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: He grabbed. He was looking at every single defensive staff
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: member that knows his stuff and said, hey, come with me. Now.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Miguel Chavis was probably was the only one I'm correct
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that wasn't an actual position coach and got elevated. But
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: he obviously showed you within these four years he was ready.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: So but Mike Reed didn't follow, which I thought was odd,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: but he stuck through Wes Goodwin. So okay, I standing
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that Wes is gone, Mike's there basically the last man standing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Kind of makes sense that he would be, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call him to come back
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: here and say you sure you want to stay over
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: there now that everybody's gone, You sure you don't want
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to come to join your boy? I could see that
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: one being the one that happens. He would make the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: most sense because of, like I said, understanding the system,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: working with BV for so long, plus he's very experienced,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and it sounds like it appears to me that Bv's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: most likely going to go out to somebody with experience.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: If anything, I don't see him elevating someone that only
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: has a couple of years of experience at dB. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I do see that Xavier Brewer will eventually coach. Brewer
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: will get a position there because I don't think Nate
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Dryling or Wes Goodwin are going to be here for
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the long haul. I could see one of them getting
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: another DC spot and that's where they end up leaving
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years, and that gets brew an
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: opportunity to go Cheetahs, where he was working a couple
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of years ago, Oh, I think, are you muted?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: C K my fault I was, I didn't interrupt you,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: but all great points, And like I said, I don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: want to spend too long on it. I have just
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: been curious to get the pulse of the fan base
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: because it's so intriguing. And the three names that I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: think are are pretty much widely agreed upon right now
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: are my Greed, Dom Franks, and Chip Viney. I think
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the trio. I'm all for Xavier Brewer.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I think brew is very much kind of that blend
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of Venables and the Lie, having learned under both and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Brandon's whole. So if brew gets it, I'm gonna be
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: extremely happy for that guy, because I think it's an earned,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: a deserved thing for him. But man, I you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I have ran into Mike Reed before at a spring
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: game down here in Texas and we had a conversation.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It was one of my first spring games back several
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: years ago. He was recruiting a corner he was up
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: against Texas. He ended up winning that battle and talking
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to him for fifteen minutes, I was like, you can
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: see why, Like you can see why this guy is
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: who he is. I think Mike rid would be a
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: home run higher. I am curious to see how feasible
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: that is, considering like you mentioned, it didn't necessarily work
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: out the first time around for whatever the case may be.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: But man, whether it's Reed, Dom, Franks Vine, or whoever else,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I am very excited to see who gets this job
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: because I think it's going to be one hell of
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a coach either way.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And like you said, this is a very covided job,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: especially the way this defense performed last year. And you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: get to work with two not one, but two freshman
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: All Americans in Courtlyn Gillery and Eli Bowen. Why wouldn't
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you want to have that attached to your name? You
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: know that if they continue on the trajectory that they've
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: been on, they're going to the league that makes you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: look good just as much as it makes Javali look
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: good like you. They can say, well, hey, I mean
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that was Jaballa's boy. You didn't do anything, Okay, I've
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: kept it going, didn't I where's the argument? Where's the argument?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You can't argue against it? Because if anything, what we
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: would like to see is more turnovers at the dB spot.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: We'd like to see more interceptions we'd like to see
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: guys go, you know, find the ball, trace it hit
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the high point and not only chase hands like you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: want to eliminate those over the back of the head
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: catches that we've dealt with over the last couple of years.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: You would like a little bit of a different philosophy
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to add to things. We'll see if that happens. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here for it, So no, I like that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Y'all jump in the comments. Let us know who y'all
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: are liking. I see that Jimmy hit us with ven A.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I can totally see that. Get Mike Reid on it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: from Peanut. I'm totally here for that. And chaos gives
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: us Brew. Of course a lot of people like coach Brew.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent here for that portion as well. Okay,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: twenty sixth class, twenty sixth class, all see we're here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Sources are saying it's actually signing day. Can you believe that? Bro?
• 32:09
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• 32:14
  Speaker 1: official National Signing Day, actual date. This Wednesday to day
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: is the actual date where you have National signing. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: some people were asking, like, wait, how are we picking
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: up more kids for the twenty sixth class, Like, wasn't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that done? No, December's early so that they can do
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: early enrollees. Now, I honestly would like to understand better.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Truth be told, why don't they just go ahead and
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: make early signing day the actual signing day. Just get
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: it over it, make that just the day and be done,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: because then at that point, that's it. You ain't gotta
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: think about February, you think about No, just make one date,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: get rid of the early just make it that today
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: because majority of these kids they're gonna go enroll early anyway,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Like that is the entire planned, the whole purpose of
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the December signing day, so that kids can enroll and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: be in spring practice, especially that can early enroll in college. Right,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: why don't we just do that?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Why don't we just comin it? I'll tell you right now,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: it's because we got so much coach movement going on too.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they can ever eliminate the February
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: signing period with the coaching landscape being as lawless as
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: it is either. And I was at the Navy All
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: American Bowl, and I talked to a highly ranked recruit
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: who was going to go to a high level program,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: but it was one of several who had a coaching
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: change and he ended up not signing in December. He
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: was still committed to the program, but he talked about, Hey,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to take a beat, be
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: with my family, make sure I'm checking all my boxes
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and still have that option out there for me if
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I need it. And I know we talked a lot
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: about player movement, but man, in the era of movement,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: they're never gonna do away with February as long as
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: all these coaches are changing jobs of December.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. So if if you want, ladies
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and gents that that are watching is if you have
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: questions as we talk about this class, put them in
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the comments section, I'm gonna be starring through them. Plus,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: if you want to jump to the top of the list,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: super chat always helps out, and you can also do
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that because Colin does a weekly Q and A over
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: there at two four seven over as soon as illustrated,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: So definitely jump in there. I like to ask random
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: questions to make sure that he understands that I'm still
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: alive even though I don't get to get in there
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: all day every day. But no I want to talk
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: about this class though, because Okay, sixteenth in the nation,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: not the highest class we've had before, but still got
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. I feel like, as we're gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: talk through this and the portal class to go together,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're now intertwined. This is one of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the more efficient classes that I think Brent Vinibles is
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: put together, especially with what they were dealing with with
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the negative recruiting and you know the fact that they
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: got Jake Crell to commit in August when everybody was like, well,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's gonna be lucky if they get to seven wins
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: this year. And they go to ten wins and you
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: get bo Bentley early, I mean, you get all of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you see the floodgates open with not only success,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: but kids saying hey, let me go ahead and take
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a gander at it. But this does feel like a
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: very efficient class. And I say that in the outside
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: of the native recruiting pieces, a lot of the players
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: on this list are ones that will either play early
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: or they're going to be they have potentially be really
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: good debt pieces. And my point behind that is when
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I talk to Naggie in at SEC Media Days, one
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: thing he made mention of is they like, in his mindset,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: he don't want to pay somebody that's not gonna play
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: right like almost immediately. And that's the philosophy some of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: these schools are taking with the five stars. And so
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: if you see a school with a bunch of five
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: star players, those are players that they're probably gonna find
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: we get on the field, because since everybody getting checks now,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the mindset is if I'm paying you, I need you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: on field. We can't be doing this other stuff, right Yeah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm seeing out a lot of this.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So talk to me, man, when it comes to the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: rounding of this class. How you feeling about it. Let's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: talk about a couple of players that I guess jump
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: out on both sides of the bob. Let's start with
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Let's start with offense, because I feel like that's a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: side that really needs the most attention right now.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Sure, and I will I will tie this into what
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you were talking about. So I wrote this back in December.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: There are three primary themes for me when you talk
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: about this twenty twenty six signing class, and I'll trickle
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: into the offensive stuff a little bit. The three things
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that jump out first and foremost when you bring up
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Jake Crawl, and then you go to the quarterback position
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: with Bo Bentley. As we dive into the offense, Crown
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Jewels committed and kept both Jake Croll, who was like
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: their top defensive target in this cycle, and then Bo Bentley,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: their guy at quarterback. Both committed prior to the start
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of the season, before Oklahoma could prove itself on the field.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And then they stuck with that pledge all the way
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: through far as you're said, than done on both sides,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: especially when you're talking about two players of that caliber
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the positions that they play. Oklahoma went out got its
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: two top targets in theory and held onto them all
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the way, even before there was a product to pitch
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: in front of them. Correct. The other thing that really
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: stood out as we dive into the offensive class and whatever,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the one and a half scholarship rule is what I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: call it, which is basically versatility and depth is key
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and then needs addressed but shots being taken. So I'll
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: make this as brief as I can. I called the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: one and a half scholarship rule because in today's day
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and age, you need guys who can occupy a number
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: of number of different position groups in the event that
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you lose another player at a similar spot. And when
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I look at the offensive line, one thing that really
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: stood out to me was when Jim Naggi was up
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: there at the podium, He's talking about how they're not
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: going to take any offensive lineman who cannot play multiple positions.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That's very much the case with guys like Deacon Schmidt
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and Noah Best. Deacon Schmid can play tackling guard, Noah
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Best can play all three interior line spots. You have
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: to employ the one and a half scholarship rule, because
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: whether it's offense or defense, you should be in today's
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: air of changing players and changing rosters, potentially having a
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: guy who can immediately backfill a vacancy that's huge, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: that's at the end of the game of that is versatility,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and through that you must address those needs because typically
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: those spots where versatility is key their premium position groups,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: offensive line, defensive back, so on and so forth. And
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: then you take a couple of shots if you trust
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: in your eval With all this in mind, and I thought,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you know, when we talk about the defense, it'll be
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: like a Christian Moore, who they ended up getting late
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: in the cycle, and some of these other guys. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma needed to go get a big time running back,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: they needed a big time wide receiver, and they said,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get this done. We're gonna figure this out.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And they they were years in their pursuit of guys
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: like Jonathan Hatton Junior and Jaden Petite and looked how
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: it worked out for him. So I love the fact that,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: especially this offensive side, and we can get into specific names,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: they're getting several players who played enough number of different
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: positions provide depth, but also go and be impact players
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: like you mentioned, go play here pretty soon. And for
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: that reason, I love this class and I like a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: lot of these offensive players as well.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I'm big on the Bowl. I'm big on Bow. I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: big on Jonathan Yeah, right, like I'm big on Petite.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Hadden's of course, my dude. If anybody knows me,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: they know the name that I talk about the most
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is my guy Hatton. Like he is the one that
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: makes me say, yeah, he's gonna find a way to start,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: hopefully in the within the next year. He's gonna be
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the one that they're gonna have to fight just tooth
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and nail to keep off the field because he's just
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that good to me, like he I mean, he's already
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: coming in. I think the measurements six', oney like that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: what he said he is, legitimately And i'm, like, oh
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: if that's the, case he's gonna be something. HUGE I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: i'm here for, That LIKE i HATE i THINK i
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Think stoops has even said this about the kid even seeing,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: him BUT i Know i've said it numerous. Times i'm.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Sorry he reminds me Of peterson in a. Way he's already,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: big he's already. Strong he runs with, violence, right and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it seems like every time he touched the ball down
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: there In San, antonio he was, gone and it's, like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: wow how does that? HAPPEN i us don't get.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It he's.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Good i'm excited about him the, most Like Bo bentley to,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: ME i don't know if he starts as a red shirt,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: freshman if he pulls At Julian sand and gets that
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: job in a year Once materia is. GONE i don't
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: know if he holds Back jet nub who knows the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: system now the second year With, neubauer or if they
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: bring in a portal quarterback and prep and to give
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: him a bridge between the. Two because if you if
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you know how this game works, Truthfully, yes it's nice
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: for the quarterbacks to get paid, today and it's nice
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: for them to go ahead and play a lot if,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Possible but you really only need about a. Year look
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: At Tys. Simpson you get about a year and out
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: there and you show out you, Good you're gonna get.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Drafted that's what your goal. Is it should be at
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: least not really getting rich in. College BUT i could
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: See bow playing. EARLY i could See bow also not
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: really playing, until you, know maybe ready shirt sophomore, year
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: maybe one more year he gets. Ready but he's got the.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Talent But, jaden he may be he may find a
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: way on the. Field BUT i think there's one player
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that on the offensive side THAT i think might actually
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: sneak his way out, there and that's Just Siah. Rodgers
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the way everybody's talked about, him, saying, hey, man if
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: he was In, texas he might be a five. Star
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that's how athletic the kid. IS i don't. Know but
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: watching the film Of Spider, Man i'm just, like, OH
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: i see why he's In delaware, unfortunately need to get
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: you down to an area where you could play against
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: some other dogs and see if you REALLY i think
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he may be one to sneak on the field, offensively
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: but of, course hat and we all believe that there's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: a chance he could end up on the. Field who,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: else who do you think may play early as a.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Freshman i'm glad you brought Up Josiah rodgers because this
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: is the guy for. Me besides quote unquote The big
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: three Of Bo, Bentley Jaden, Pettit jonathanton junior highly rank.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Prospects you, Know Jasia rodgers finishes FOR us at twenty
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: four seven sports as a four star recruit out Of,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Delaware and so much of it comes down to the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: aggressive nature of play at the receiver. Position let me
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: tell you, this if you're gonna get the nickname Spider,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: man you better not be a, scrub right you might,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: play you better play Like Spider. Man he plays Like Spider.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: MAN i mean he does the catch radius and the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: ability to tack the ball relative to his frame at
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: about five to. Eleven it's pretty. Rare it's somewhat out
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: of the ordinary for a player of his. Structure BUT
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: i like that he's this like, dense compactly built kind
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: of a bouncy athlete who can go make plays beyond his.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Frame and, then, oh by the, way because of, THAT
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: i think that there is again kind of like that
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: one and a half scholarship rule where some players at
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: his size might be limited to the. Slot even though
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: he's five, eleven maybe he is five to ten and a.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Half we'll, see. RIGHT i do believe, though that he
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: could still potentially kick outside and play some perimeter receiver
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: because of his ability to attack the ball to catch.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Point AND i love. THAT i love What oklahoma did
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: here in going after this guy somewhat out of the,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: blue because if you'll, remember he had a pretty solid
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: recruitment and then all of a, sudden, IT i, mean
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: it picked up for, him And oklahoma got this thing
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: locked up. Quick AND i think that they did a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: really good job not only to identify and, pursue but
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to hold off BECAUSE i can tell, you Like Jasira
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: rodgers was one of some of these guys in this.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: CLASS i ended up getting a few phone calls over
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the last couple of, months AND i think this guy
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: has a. CASE i think he certainly has an argument
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: if he gets in there and does what he needs to.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Do, yeah he's the one THAT i every TIME i
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: look at him and go back and watch the, Film i'm, Like,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah LIKE i, said he's not a. Scrub and, again
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: if you don't have a, Name Spider, man you better
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: not be no dang. Scrub he does look like he
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: crawls up. Walls he loved he played baseball too, well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: right and go out there center, field climb the wall
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: and make the. Catch he has that type of athleticism
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and you love that from a wide receiver because you're
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: gonna need him to occasionally climb up these big THE dB,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: walls climb, up get the, catch and make sure they
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: don't take that from. Him so now the good thing weh.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: OH i was gonna say, too if you were looking at,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: transition there's another guy that really jumps out in this.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Class not as far as like a play right, away
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: but if you're asking, me give me someone besides the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: big three who's gonna play, away and then give me
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: someone besides the big three who in a couple of
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: years has a chance to be a real. Problem mm.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Hmm that's a good.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: ONE i want to know you're under the radar guy
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: that maybe needs some time for. Me the answer is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Undoubtedly Tyler. Ruckser Undoubtedly Tyler. Ruckser yeah again as a,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: nerd as a player personnel. Nerd When Jim naggy goes
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: up there and, says, hey, man we Found Tyler, ruxer
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: a six and twenty pound tight end skimming track times
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and we found him running sub eleven at six four two.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: TWENTY i was. GIGGLING i was giggling watching the press.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: CONFERENCE i was, Like oh, boy that's that's my language right.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: There that's some SHIT i would.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Do.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: YEAH i would skim sometimes and be, like, wait this dude's.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Hute like it goes to THE Dk metcalf, storyline, right
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people. Understand if you don't, know
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: let me for the. UNINITIATED Dk metcalf went and ran
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: for like The olympic. Preliminaries he ran and he finished
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: LIKE i think eighth out of nine or something like.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: That at like six,' four two hundred and. Forty pounds
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: he was like forty pounds bigger, than everybody if, not
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: more and a few. Inches taller it's kind Of Like
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: nick harbor you See At south carolina who is a
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: track athlete while being a ginormous. Few being, it's like
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: if you just cut down twenty pounds of the x
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: extra weight that you're, you're hauling you'd probably be a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: silver medalist or bronze medalist In. The, olympics yeah that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: is Exactly where. I'M at, I Agree. Tyler, Russe yeah
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: rutsor was the one for me, as well BECAUSE when
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: i saw that, same THING when I heard naggy, Say that, i'm,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: like oh you are A sick oh you're right here
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: looking for you. For real when people say we are
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: looking outside of the box for players that could really
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: fit into the as difference makers, for us that is
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the perfect example. Of it that is thinking outside. The
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: box it's finding someone skimming track records that is, so,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: dope like oh, my goodness you found to do something
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: living it. That size NOW imagine I Mean jerry kannick's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: another example. OF that, i mean the bigger difference is Is
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: that kannick didn't really play. Tight end he was a.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Wild cat he just went out, there quarterback, Running back he,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: did everything but he never really had to do the block,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and Stuff whereas rutxer did that was his job while
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: also just being an. Absurd athlete, SO no i love.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: That one i'm actually just tagging along one album because
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that's probably the dude on the. OFFENSIVE side i wouldn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: say the same thing about.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody else on the offensive side of the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: ball that you are compelled to talk about before we?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Go Defense.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Deacon, SCHMIDT yeah i feel like he could go out
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: there and Push For too. Deep early he's got, the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: size he's got. The strength i've watched. Him train he
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: looks like one he's gonna be able to walk in
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and they'd, be like, oh yeah, come on come on.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Up here you're you're just going from scout Team To,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Too deep get. Up here he looks like he looks
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: like he's college. FOOTBALL ready i mean he's already what
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: he's six' five, three twenty already. So he's big he's probably,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: bigger than that not than a lie. If, he's healthy
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: yeah And, he from colorado so you know a, little
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: bit altitude so he's got probably go a better win
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: than most. Because, OF that Yeah I think dickon schmid
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: might be one that might surprise a lot of folks.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: AND cause, problems i mean he also just plays, like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: A bully which i appreciate as. An offensive lineman you
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: can tell he wants to MAKE the other uh players on,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the field quit which you need to have that mentality as.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: An offensive lineman the quick one for me before, We
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: go Defense xavier okafulawayse a is going to BE one
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: that i am desperate to see, how this, works because
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: again when you talk about, your, your checklist yeah measurables
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: check plus athletic ability check plus multi sport background check
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: plus two way snaps check plus the tape check plus
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: incredibly raw arguably has no idea what He's, doing yet nope.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: It's it's again it's like when you talk about the
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: recruiting rankings and PROJECTIONS towards the nfl draft and guys
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: like this who you're really trying to figure out how
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: much to bet on them long term in, their Developmental
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: process like, xavier FOR one like i cannot wait to see,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: how this goes because then that is Someone with every
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: god given ability, you can imagine and he is only
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: scratching the surface. Of his potential and if it goes well,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: for that, kid hey man that that is a different
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that's a different athlete on. This list folks and he's a,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: great kid too, By the, way like anyway that's.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: A good one i like. THAT as well i remember
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: watching the. Tape on, him i'm like his tape truly
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: does Remind Me of elijah thomas's, like smaller school just
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: dominate the. Hell out everybody, but, you're like oh if
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: he gets refined and he can play in the flow,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of the offense, oh my god he'll. Be a problem that's.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Typically your Challenge, oh like stevie the BIGGEST sleeper that
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: i had out of, all of them that truly. Isn't
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: a sleeper but actually we don't talk. About Him, anymore
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: daniel otum he's. A BIG boy, like i mean you
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: coming in six to two almost two hundred and you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: know with the hossago, with j O'Neill shout, out to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: him hope he Does Well. At florida state only when,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: we play him it's THE only time i don't want.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Him DO good but i think. He'll Do well but,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: daniel was, supposedly you, know you know a combo, package
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: WITH him and i went back and. JUST watched him,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: i was like let me go remind MYSELF of what i.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Liked About him, and, i'm, LIKE oh okay I see
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: why i, Liked his game like he plays well in
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the flow. Of the offense on top of being, a
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you know he's. A thread deep he is a threat. Across
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the middle? Did it all we don't. Talk about him
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: but it's more so because he's already a, highly rated
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: kid so it's kind of hard to, talk, about, him,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: like oh well he's going to. Be a sleeper, he's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: you know he's, a, Four star right he's actually a pretty,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: highly rated dude. Kind of expected.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: It's interesting with odam because he's kind of the Polar
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: opposite of Xavier in at odam has been on college
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: radar since he was. In. Eighth, Grade yep however xavier
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: is like, this traitsy tools the, FREAKISH athletic, ability i
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: mean just a different. Level, of athlete however still has
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of growth as a receiver. To get done
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: odam is is set like he, is, A receiver correct
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: but maybe there isn't the Basketball. Background like xavier it
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: isn't six' four and eighty Wing and it's but, odom,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: is a receiver man he. Is A football player and
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: i've watched him in person and seven on settings and,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: he's just he's like, he IS all Ball and i
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: think odam just gives you an extremely high floor. As
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: a wide out and he he's a sleeper because it
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: felt it felt like because he's just a football player
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: and has been known, about for so long he kind
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: of coasted, an under the radar even though it wasn't
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: always a guarantee he's gonna be. Part, of, This.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Class yeah exactly like there was a fear that he
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: was gonna as Soon as j O'Neil. Bouncey is gonna
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: decommit and then you started to hear in the stories
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: if you'll potentially, go and, do visits uh, right open
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  Speaker 1: things up which which fair because you were coming with
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: your quarterback a. Lot of wide receivers if, you have that,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: connection that. Gets recruited that happens. But then, he, Didn't he's,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Like nah i'm, GOOD so ALL right i think I
• 54:24
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  Speaker 1: when you MENTION a Person like i mentioned daniel odom
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  Speaker 1: who who is a top, like one hundred player and
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  Speaker 1: a lot, of the, recruiting sites it's, like wait a
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• 56:52
  Speaker 1: i did not realize he's. GONNA be, as good i
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  Speaker 1: mean y'all have him at what fift, he's a fifty ninth.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Ninth receiver or whatnot but he's. The talent is there,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you know it's there and we're not, really talking about
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: him so it. Kind of surprises, you, but defense wise
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: though defense felt like they were, one, hundred percent saying
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: oh we're gonna get a lot of these dudes that
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: we know have ridiculous upsides and will actually push for.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: A chance to play when you have A Player, like
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a jayden jackson when you Have, A, Player Of. Cortland
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: gillery eli bowen you, got these younger guys but they
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: go out there. And play as. Freshmen that intrigues recruits
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: and even with the Hot Seat talk about brent vinibles
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: at the, beginning of the year these kids saw, the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: opportunity of oh y'all will really play freshmen if they're
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: good enough. Class have people excited so let's highlight. A
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: couple of Players. And we know jake we. Ain't, talk
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: about HIM man he beats i think he's going UP in.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: The two d period there's no question about him because
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: all he's got to do is put on the weight
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: and you can tell that he's, dedicated to, the game,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the grind the hustle all of that to get to.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Where he needs to but the, rest, of these dudes
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: though there's so many players that have like freakishly like just. Feel,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Like some freaks now i'm. Gonna give you two let
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: me give you two players real quick that THE more and,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: more i watch them The more and. More I'm So Intrigued. The,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: jen joe twins yeah have they hit? Their physical peak
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: YET that is what, i Am intrigued by right is
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it maybe because they come in here yoked how how
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: how much? More can they get how much? Bigger can
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: they get how much? Stronger will they Get and how
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: ready because, they one's a. Linebacker one's a, safety so to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Me.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: They're both cheetahs yep, at their size right that's like
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: THE exact measurements, that bb looks for and they have
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: and as long, as they're fast enough. THEY can do
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: it i am very intrigued by those two and where.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: They're Going To go the jandro brothers. Are going to
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: be this is where. The debate comes in And You
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: mentioned what jim naggie was talking. ABOUT on a podcast i,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: don't know which one but from what, you were talking,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: about he essentially discussed we're going to find, guys that
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: are physical violent. And fit Our System that's the jandro. Brothers,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: to a, t physicality sheer violence sometimes a willingness to
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: put your, body on the line maybe a little, bit more, than,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: appropriate you, know like hey man you're putting yourself in
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: danger by playing to, that level of physicality but you
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: love that when you are, evaluating high school, RECRUITS that
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: reckless abandonment i guess. Is what you say that's what they.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Have to their core, and by the way these Guys.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Have lived in Jim they it doesn't it doesn't take
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of time to find a picture of them
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: after a workout where they look like grown men. Who, Own,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: THE gym, RIGHT so i look i don't know how
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: much bigger these. GUYS are gonna get i don't know
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: if the physical limitations. Are already in place that's that's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a whole, like conversation scouting theory that's. A whole rabbit
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: hole But like, FOR the jandra brothers I, think if
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you're oklahoma you're really excited about. A couple, of things
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Number One exactly what jim naggi. Said in his presser
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: these guys are gonna go play special teams at a
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: really high level because of how physical, and aggressive they.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Are that reckless abandonment they are going to run through
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: someone's face, in the third phase and they're gonna go
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: make tackles and they're going to do their job. In the,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: third phase and again that's an area of the game
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that it's so important to have. Those, Types, OF players
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: however yeah i think bo is gonna be a really.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: SOLID inside Linebacker option, i think nko, has like you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: mentioned cheetah elements a lot of these linebacker safety types
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: again go back to that one and a HALF scholarship
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: rule that i talk about where, they can play well
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: we would call, the mid skill positions, not like mid
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: skill but the middle level skill. GROUPS in your defense
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of, these GUYS feel interchangeable and i think on,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: top of you know the muscled up versions of, themselves
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: that they are the physicality, that They Play with the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: jendro brothers do feel pretty interchangeable at that second. Level
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: of the defense you love that If Your name is
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: brent venables and that's the type of, player you're Looking,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: for obviously.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly NOW the biggest question I have with the jandro
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: brothers is going to be? What their speeds are right with, the, forty,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: times exactly yeah run what do? They actually clock at
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that to me is where that TELLS me exactly where
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: i think they'll end up, Being able to play like
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: where where would, make the MOST sense because, like i said,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: that with their Size They're about the. Brent venables cheetah
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: size that is. What He's looking, for it they bigger
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: bigger corners who. Hit REALLY really hard and i love
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: what y'all who y'all pointing out here in the comments
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: of players that, everyone is excited about one of, Those
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Being you Know christian moore aka megatron when they found
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: him in the late. Part OF. THE season c k
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: i remember Seeing him hitt, and, i'm just like oh
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: you have one of those highlight tapes where it's like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: all you do. When, is leveling people yeah that's that's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: that's the physical violence that we're looking. For in THIS
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: defense now that i think that's what made it so
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: tough for me to really pick anybody IN this class
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: that i could Just really outside of jake that could
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: just hitch my wagon to because all these dudes. Actually Like,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: hitting people markl ford he has his his highlights is
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: him knocking. People off THEIR block what am i supposed
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: to do with all these dudes they.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Like to hit PEOPLE i've.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Lost like i don't it makes it really hard to.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Try To pick now Jacob curry sounds like winter workout wise. Is,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Turning everybody's heads yeah florida pick up, another pseudo cheetah
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: size but gonna, play linebackers, six' one you know two
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: hundred and probably. Ten pounds At This point him and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: dame bathurst to.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Me.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Really makes me say because when we got dang.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: THOUGHT it was an edge i think he's listed at someplace,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: in someplace he listed linebacker but he's already walking in
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: basically The Exact. Same size as danny stutsman can he Be.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: A.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: THREAT like, a danny stutsman i mean he's The Exact
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: same size as. Cole sullivan. Is right now it's terrifying
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: they really did find a lot of dudes that are
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: physically at the point of. Being Ready to play today.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Jacob. Curry's gonna have a shot it sounds like everything's going.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Well for, him right now and again he's another one
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: of those interchangeable pieces at the second LEVEL of the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: defense who i, think can play. Inside linebacker can play cheetah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: he has a, safety BACKGROUND by the way so i
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: do think he will be. COMFORTABLE playing some slot backer
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: i made a little bit of an audible noise there
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: BECAUSE you took the guy i really wanted to talk
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: About one Of the two, DAME to, thurst is like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: i mean another one, of, Those LIKE scouting crushes right
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: so i don't think he gets talked about nearly Enough
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Because you have a christian moore who the scouting staff
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: kind of started to, bet on in the summer and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: then they went ahead and followed Through. With that bet
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Into december you've got THE jandro, brothers who everyone i
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: mean they kind of feel. Like Celebrities at this. Point
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Jacob Curry's commanding headlines but dame BETHURST is the guy
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: THAT i, Look, at and i go okay you're, like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: six three two thirty. Look like a grown MAN but.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: This IS what i love and i talked about. This
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: extensively with. Our, board dane's family tree okay His dad
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: is a retired navy seal who was a collegiate swimmer
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: and Won The Nineteen ninety eight big ten. Championship in
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: the fifty three his Mother was a, swimmer at minnesota
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: as well and his Sister is a swimmer at virginia
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: who was the twenty twenty TWO eight. Hundred free relay, acc, Champ.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I'M sorry what yeah okay i, remember hearing, about the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: swimming but wow.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: So you're talking About the son of a navy seal
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: and two. Collegiate athletes all swimming background dane at his.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Size plays edge and linebacker there's just so much to like,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: about this guy for me AND he is one that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: i think doesn't. Get nearly, as talked about but again
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: when you do your, homework as, you're, supposed to you're
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: like man this dude has. So many elements to, HIMSELF
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: and by the way i Know. He's coming from from Indiana,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: he moved there from florida so he's got A little bit.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Of that FLORIDA GrITT too really that i Am, a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: big fan of dane but thirst he is ONE of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: these guys that i am so intrigued by and what
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: it's gonna look like Being Coached. By someone like BRENT
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: benables and then if i, COULD hit you with this
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: i think it is not An overstatement to say that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: oklahoma has the most under talked about four star top
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: two four seven cornerback in. THE history of the. RANKINGS
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: i really believe that i don't Know That anyone talks.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: ABOUT derek johnson at all I Don't know when is? Derek,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: johnson ever. Talked ABOUT honest honest question like i said This,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: ON signing day, in, DECEMBER i was like guys i have,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: never seen, a four star top two four seven cornerback
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: get talked about as euro times, month over month over month.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: And That's what he is derek johnson is like a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: six one six', two corner with a TRACK background, the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: son Of An nfl player and Like all conference selection
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: player at washington and, he doesn't. Get talked. About ever
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: like ever it blew it has, blown My mind for
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: months now and i'm so glad, to VOCALIST it because it's,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: like when, i, bring it up you're like man when's
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: The Last. Time you talked. About derek johnson it's been months.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: It has been that long since the. Last time you've
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: talked about him. You are one hundred percent. Right It's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: that is Very fascinating he's it's him and. DANIEL odom
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: are the two players i think it's Because They're. Both
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: out on the west coast. It's gotta be what it
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: is those are your two guys, that we forget are
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: sizey talented everything you're looking for, in the four star
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: guy range, and, everybody's just, kind of like yeah he's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: good and as it you just they're not the ones you.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Consider to have the ridiculous upside they're not the ones
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: that are considered to be a. Big TIME sleeper or no,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: there it's i guess to me it feels like so
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: many people have gotten, their minds, with those. Two that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: oh yeah their hits, no one's talking, ABOUT them anymore
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: because you're right I Haven't. TALKED a lot about derek
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: johnson i mean his dad came, on and talked about
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: you know what they're looking to, do and everything and.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Great guys exciting to see, him no one's really just.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: No one's really gapping about. Him that's a very good
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: point six six two already at the size you wanted CORNER,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and dad played in the nfl so you know. He's, got,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the mind for it like yeah they we. Probably should
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: talk more About Him.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: You're telling You That derek. Johnson's the next all, american,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: cornerback i'm just telling you like what a job by
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: this staff to find a guy who has four star
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: talent and makeup to him at a premium position like
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: corner and he just flew under the. Radar for almost
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: entire calendar year? In what? World does that happen.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Typically doesn't that's a good. Point it really it rarely
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: does know?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: What were they talking about Him i'm HE has just
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: been every, TIME i look At his, name, i laugh
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: because i'm like man it really feels like he's the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: least talked, about member of the entire class. And he's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: a four. Star. CORNERBACK that's, where star.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Nuts man I, guess you know being in. California he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: would committed so, early we, just kind, of just you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: know like said. WE just forgot about. The kid, I don't,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Know why you're right i.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: MEAN i'll tell. You right now i. DMed him it was.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: THE summer i'll never forget IT i was my wife
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: and i were trying to do LIKE a little mini,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: vacation and, i DMed him like? Hey MAN how the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: visy go and i mean again like. Attestament To what we're, talking,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: about jarrek. Johnson was like oh it's great I'm getting
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: ready to commitment. Or i'm getting ready to commit, like
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: HERE in a little bit can i send? YOU some quotes, for, the, story,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: i was. LIKE whoa whoa whoa whoa.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Buke i wasn't. Ready for this he wasn't prepared let me.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Get the computer, at the story first of.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: All thank you for doing this insanity that a four st.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Our corners, JUST volunteering all this you know i don't
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: have to like pull tooth and. Nail for, commit, quotes,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: and everything but like. YEAH man, he's just he's awesome.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I mean he's a great kid and again it's like
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: it just speaks to who he is as a player
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: and a person that he has been that under. The,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: radar for this long, time.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: No, that's a good point man wow you, hit, Him
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: up and he's like oh i'm about to? Commit, you you, ready, for,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: me like oh yeah. Yeah sure let's go. For that
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: let's get that done but the the efficiency around who,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: they grab to me on defense they got, everybody the,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: type that they want hard hitters dudes that will knock
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: your block off the way. You want, And, get You excited,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and yeah jimmy if i'm correct there Is another correct
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: younger brother. That owe you is also recruiting so. We
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: like to be family you that is what we are,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: going for, when it. Comes to you know our recruiting if.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: YOU can get guys of Talent I, mean, We're looking at,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: tritton LAYLOCK right tory's little brother and i know that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: he's one that is starting to. Pick up, on, the
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: recruiting trail but. Yeah man. That's A good point all
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: right MATTHEW nelson is another one that i have been.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Watching more and more video on. He's a huge human sixty.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: FIVE now he's slight two fifteen. I, THINK he's bigger
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: than that now i think. HE'S legitimately bigger than two
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: fifteen i. Think he's, closer to two thirty BUT. Yeah
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Could he be your r mason thomas player that's just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: that good at the position that, you and and just
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Completely Underrated or that go to daniel norman who seems
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: To have similar attributes out of florida AS. You Would. Have,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: gotten at.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: R Bason thomas yeah it's tough our mason finishes a,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: fourth star recruit in his cycle and that was someone
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: that our director of scouting at twenty four to seven
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: adored and ended up taking a shot on. And they kind,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: OF paid OFF That Being said i think ar mason
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: thomas probably had a little bit more back end of
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: season momentum and arguably more clearly defined ceiling to HIM
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: than THE Other Two because i think ar mason thomas
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: still had a, lot of growth to get. DONE but,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: you could see it i mean it didn't take long
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: to watch him Coming out of, the, state of florida
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: to go oh this is someone who is going to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: generate pass rush at a. High, level at the next
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: level yeah, THE two names that you're mentioning i think
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: that they're both very DIFFERENT yet similar In That when
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: i look at, DANIEL norman and you, watch Him I,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: have constantly said with, daniel NORMAN at The very least
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: what i KNOW i'm getting here is a dpr. FLOOR
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: designated pass rush er floor I Don't have any question
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: about daniel norman's ability and maybe a year or two
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: to get called out onto the field on third down
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and pin his ears back. And go run the go
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: right it doesn't take long. To, see That On tape
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: either now is daniel norman going to become. A complete
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: three down defensive end it's a big question because he's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: got a. Lot of weight to pack on he's going
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: To have to jump in in. Norman and get to
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: work quick it's going to be a lot of time
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: in the weight room. And not just packing on physically
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: but he's got a lot of. Growth in. His, game as.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Well to true yeah he's got additional tools to his
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: tool belt as far as the way that he not
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: only rushes the BALL but, also being, able to i
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: mean you know make people have to guess if he's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: rushing or if. He's looking, for the run itself so. Yeah,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that's a very good point.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Well and he's also going to have to and there's
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: so much to the intricacies of the position that we,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: don't have time to talk about but like he's going
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: to be one that has to continue to learn how
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: to set the edge and how to prepare. Your body
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: to play the run and he's this is, a defensive
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: line as we know, that's, very, active in the games,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: stunts Twists All that good stuff and daniel norman is
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: going to. Probably play a role in that but he
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: he is, one that Will Need. Some Time As will
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: matthew nelson now matthew nelson's a. LITTLE bit Different In
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: my opinion i think matthew nelson has a little bit
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: more of the complete floor right when you, look at
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: him and you, go this is someone who clearly if you,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: give him a year or two is going to have
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: the chance. To play on ALL three downs The Biggest
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: question i have with matthew nelson is how? Long, Is
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: that going to take right because we are now in the,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: business of all of these players and this is kind
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: of one of, those quiet things out loud moments but
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: like all these players are in, two year windows in
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: two years we better know what you are or a
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: lot of these guys are. Getting, THE page turned on
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: them yep i Don't Think. That's gonna happen, To matthew
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: nelson for The Record, i'm just, saying when matthew nelson
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: you know he's, on campus currently and all that the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: clock is already kind of ticking for this guy as
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: a developmental prospect. At A position like defensive end why
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: i am EXCITED about This player and why i think,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma is excited about this player it's because he's Going
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: To get To work with miguel chavs, in, oakland strength
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: and conditioning staff right and so the. Timeline in theory should,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: be accelerated AND if it is this is i don't
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: want to go as far as to say that This
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Is Somewhat similar, to The xavier oka filuaise conversation because.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Xavier Is A totally different athlete but matthew nelson Has
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: a ton of traits and god given ability that's hard
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: to find and as long as, you can round out
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: the game this To me is the, player that oklahoma
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: could turn into someone that's part of that that continuous
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: defensive Line, they present in the.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Sec, OH it's a good point. Yeah i can, totally
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: see that he. They said he he has it the
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: question is?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: When?
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: When will you see that when?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: When?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Will will it climb out when when? Will he blossom
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: into that player will he walk in day? One AND figured,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: it all out like i said there's so many intricacies.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Of that role that. It's tough That's A, challenging position
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: but having miguel chaves who we've seen really refine, some
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: of these edges. Pretty quickly that may for him it's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: going to be about his health, And my opinion on
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: his game LIKE that's the biggest struggle That pj dealt?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: With out of. BUARE was health we eliminate that. I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: think he may do. It now here's one One More.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Someone asked the question tank carrington this kid has had
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: a very interesting story and. Life in the recruiting trail itself,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: he comes. In here six one two, Nineties, what he's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: listed at measurements uh he may.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Be a.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: LITTLE bit slightly taller he may i Think he's probably
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: bigger at this he may, be a little bit bigger
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: also but he was as a. Freshman sophomore bigger than
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: everybody else so he, was like a five star start
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: like he was already in the top twenty players in
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: the country because of just being. A physical specimen at.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: His size then he, stopped growing and when that happens
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you kind of slowly see it drop as other players
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: that our physical tools are. Passing you kind of hurt
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: you now if he walks in, here with THE mindset.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Of yeah y'all thought i wasn't i'm gonna GO ahead
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: and snatch back WHAT i initially had, and what i
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: deserve and recognition Could. Be your, NEXT grace in halton
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: to me i think, he has the moves for it,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: he has the size for it as long as He
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: can fill. Those gaps, with, bates he could but yeah
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: man HIS story is intriguing to, WHEN i went, BACK
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: to look i was like i could Have sworn he
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: was a five he was a five star in the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: top twenty. At one, point in his career but man
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: this is how you know when you don't have the pseudo,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: quote unquote Physical, traits but him come but, oklahoma going
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: back around, To him like. You're pretty violent we'll take,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: You you want to come. Through, You're Filing your boy's.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Face yeah so CARRINGTON this is one that and i have.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: To like choose my words carefully They don't want to
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: sound like. I'm coming off a certain way, carrington is
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: an interesting case study and that he is someone who
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: is a multi time, transfer at the high school level
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: went to a few different high schools in a. Few
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: different areas of the country injury history, And total body
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: recomposition as well and so you talk about like at
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: one point he was a big physical specimen, AND then
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden i Remember He Showed Up, to
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: THE navy all american bowl and i mean he looked,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: like he was. Two forty nine two fifty two, HE
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: was light at one point i can tell you at
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: one point he. Weighed. In, at Two thirty nine wow
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: so like carrington is one where every it gets out,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: of the gate and it's great and then move multiple
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: high schools and deal with some injury stuff and lose
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: a ton of that body weight and, Maybe sometimes it
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: affects the, game but at the same time the elements
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: of what made him such a. Promising. Prospect are still
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: in there right if there is anybody who can get
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the most out of this, specific skill Set And case.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Study it is Todd Bates, right IT is absolutely todd
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: bates and I think when you talk about carrington and,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: What this defense wants. To do naggi talked About it
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: you see it on. Saturdays if you watch, the tape
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: oklahoma wants athletic, penetrating one gap style defensive tackles Guys That.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Can go right the grayson holtons If, it all comes
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: together for carrington he has. That type of potential to.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Him there's no doubt about that that. Is kind of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: his skill set but given what the last few, years
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: have looked like for him the, next couple of years
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: moving forward it really has to go back to what
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: it looked like at. THE beginning Of high school career
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: i think oklahoma is a great place for him to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: do that because of the Teachings He's, going to get
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: from todd bates the structure he's, going to have, within
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: the program and Through that through this model that oklahoma
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: has there as Well equipped as anybody to get. CARRINGTON
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: back to being the prospect i think that so many touted,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: him to be at, the career and if that happens
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: they have. A dude on the defensive, Line that's the
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Big thing Though the if and that's why carrington is
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: such an interesting. One, to discuss in this class.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah that is the, one that jumps. Out the, most is,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Right there, it's physical he penetrates.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: He's.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Violent he wants to be violent. He doesn't Shy away.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: From VIOLENCE that's what oklahoma wants and i like the
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: fact that they, Did TAKE a flyer on him like
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I Know, others were wondering about deucee geralds like he
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: was another one in that, range that, people Were curious
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: about you know hoping oklahoma would would get do a
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: flyer on Him as Well because of his he's not
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: He's About the size. Of a grayson hawton as, well he's.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Not the largest. Dude but physical totally understand it carrington
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: intrigues me that they are, going to give, him that
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: flyer but, you know at the same time it's. Gonna
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: a chip. On his, shoulder that's the expectation you know
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: one player, we don't really talk about though to, another
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: One Another one out there really brian harris like that
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: dude's been. So locked in since, he, committed it was
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: just like hey. WE have to worry about him i
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: think he.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Knows where he wants To Be is there a more
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: todd baits guy In This Cask.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: The biggest the Top Baits award for the most. Top,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: baits player in this CLASS.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Yes if anyone on the ou creative, team, is listening
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: to this SHOW okay listen, TO me when i say
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: this i will pay you green dollars green to record
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: for all of Us Out there A Poetry. Off todd
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: baits versus brian harris. I'll give you money for that do,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: it in front of the team force them to poetry
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of rounds and and put it out. There
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: for the world to see that. Is pay per view.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Caliber television.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: That is elite content YOU'RE welcome that's ELITE content because
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: i would be i. WOULD be tuned in like this.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I want my, Percentage for THAT by the way i'm not,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: i DON'T need a large percentage but. I am on
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: a journalism salary so let's make. Sure when WE collaborate
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: on THIS and can i tell you I had the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: idea just.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Saying i will pay the, green dollars for this to
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: happen and you give cka cut after, you make some
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: bread on it we will invest it's.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Investing, in a stock or something yes.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Because it is because it will. It's a stock that
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: would fly that is. Hilarious and it is So True
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: he is one the todd baits recruit of all recruits
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: on this and, he's had that is, so funny just
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: unapologetically positive. Singing throwing the poetry out. There oh that's
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: that's so good and then he also walks out there.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: And he knocks people's heads off we Got a lot
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: of dudes for, florida This year in This class.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: But, Thirst, is from Florida. Originally. Yep harris you've got curry?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Yep How, Many is it in Daniel. Norman you've got.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Five in, florida make it. Six jake yep yep that
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: is and then We go and we Played. The gators
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: this year in. GAINESVILLE that's, ACTUALLY pretty darn good. I
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: know i get so excited oh, we get close to
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: the crib we. Can bring all. The family up let's.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Do it it's.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Kind of point that's why we're doing, that, here in
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: our sec recruiting right we remind everyone that. We travel,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: everywhere in the country so man we got, for an,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: HOUR and, a half we're. Gonna i know you fighting something.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: The cooties is going around everywhere i'm gonna stuff my
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: face and probably pop some allergy, mads and go to,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: sleep too because, the weather's like it's beautiful here and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: but it was like negatives like. A week, And a half.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Ago so yeah i'm fighting everything but let THE people
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: any closing statement c. K before we bounce about it
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: hopefully we.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Do this again here pretty soon always. Fun seeing everybody in.
• 1:26:44
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