Latest / The Front / ‘A colossal failure’: Erin Patterson’s bid for a fresh trial
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- 0:04Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
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- 0:42Speaker 1: com au. A colossal failure and a catastrophic miscarriage of justice.
- 0:49Speaker 1: That's the claim from Mushroom murderer Aaron Patterson's lawyers as
- 0:53Speaker 1: she launchers a bid to get out of jail today
- 0:57Speaker 1: v Appeal and how the Crown is trying to sure
- 1:00Speaker 1: Patterson is put away for even longer.
- 1:09Speaker 2: For over a century, courts have unashamedly applied the fundamental
- 1:13Speaker 2: principle that justice should not only be done, but should
- 1:16Speaker 2: manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.
- 1:21Speaker 1: This is a voice actor reading the submissions prepared by
- 1:24Speaker 1: lawyers for triple murderer Aaron Patterson. She's serving a minimum
- 1:29Speaker 1: thirty three year jail term for killing three elderly relatives
- 1:33Speaker 1: and attempting to murder a fourth with a beef Wellington
- 1:36Speaker 1: laced with deathcap mushrooms.
- 1:40Speaker 2: What occurred here was a colossal failure.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Patterson's appealing her convictions and the first ground. The colossal
- 1:49Speaker 1: failure is something that was revealed while the jury was
- 1:52Speaker 1: deliberating in late June and early July of twenty twenty
- 1:55Speaker 1: five in the Victorian country town of Morwell, a small
- 2:00Speaker 1: place and with the local hotels and motels booked out
- 2:03Speaker 1: with journo's lawyers and cops. The trial judge became aware
- 2:07Speaker 1: that the jury was staying in the same hotel as
- 2:11Speaker 1: some of the Crown lawyers and detective Leading Senior Constable
- 2:14Speaker 1: Stephen Eppingstall. He was known as the informant in the case.
- 2:21Speaker 2: The only proper remedy is the quashing of her convictions
- 2:24Speaker 2: and an order for a retrial.
- 2:28Speaker 1: On Wednesday, an appeal hearing kicked off before three judges
- 2:31Speaker 1: in Melbourne and Barrister Richard Edney, acting for Patterson told
- 2:35Speaker 1: the court the accommodation situation meant the jury's verdict was unsafe,
- 2:39Speaker 1: even though he said he knew of no evidence that
- 2:42Speaker 1: any juror had communicated with or even seen the policeman
- 2:47Speaker 1: or the lawyers. Justice Peter Kidd was asking Edney questions,
- 2:53Speaker 1: we've voice acted their exchange.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Mister Edney, if they did view or see the practitioners,
- 3:01Speaker 2: so what Well, in our submission it matters that they
- 3:05Speaker 2: had the opportunity to see participants from one side of
- 3:08Speaker 2: the case. That's important. There's an important aspect to that. Well.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Why Well, on this case it was eleven weeks the
- 3:16Speaker 2: trial went for. The jury would have.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Been aware of The Australian's senior audio producer, Christen Amiot,
- 3:22Speaker 1: has been covering this case since the beginning. I asked
- 3:25Speaker 1: Chrissy how Richard Edney's argument adds up given that the
- 3:29Speaker 1: jurors were being supervised by court officials the whole time.
- 3:34Speaker 3: He suggested on Wednesday, in his comments to the Court
- 3:38Speaker 3: that even though the jury were under the supervision of
- 3:41Speaker 3: people who are very mysteriously known as jury keepers, court officials,
- 3:46Speaker 3: court officials exactly that those court officials didn't enter into
- 3:51Speaker 3: the hotel rooms of the jurors at the time, and
- 3:54Speaker 3: that their hotel rooms did have windows, and so there's
- 3:58Speaker 3: a possibility that they might have But yes, they are
- 4:01Speaker 3: suggesting that because there is no evidence to show that
- 4:04Speaker 3: contact didn't happen, that an injustice has occurred.
- 4:08Speaker 1: It kind of brings to mind this ridiculous proposition that
- 4:12Speaker 1: the detective or the lawyers would have been standing in
- 4:14Speaker 1: the garden waving up at the windows, going she's guilty. Yeah,
- 4:17Speaker 1: I mean, it seems pretty far fetched to me. What
- 4:20Speaker 1: was your take listening to it?
- 4:22Speaker 3: I agree in that if anybody knows that justice needs
- 4:26Speaker 3: to be seen to be done, it's going to be
- 4:29Speaker 3: the Crown prosecutor and their associates and the detective who
- 4:32Speaker 3: has brought this case to trial, who's built the case
- 4:35Speaker 3: to come to trial.
- 4:37Speaker 1: The second ground of Patterson's appeal is that the trial
- 4:39Speaker 1: judge made a mistake by allowing evidence to be presented
- 4:43Speaker 1: to the jury about two connected things. One was posts
- 4:48Speaker 1: on a website called eye Naturalist, where kind of biology
- 4:51Speaker 1: geeks post sightings of things that they've seen a rare
- 4:54Speaker 1: tree or a butterfly or in this case, mushrooms, deathcat
- 4:57Speaker 1: mushrooms and cell tower evidence about Aaron Patterson's phone allegedly
- 5:03Speaker 1: pinging off towers near the locations where these deathcat mushrooms
- 5:07Speaker 1: had been spotted. The Crown in the trial used this
- 5:11Speaker 1: to suggest to the jury that Aaron Patterson had seen
- 5:14Speaker 1: the posts on Our Naturalists and then had kind of
- 5:16Speaker 1: rushed out there to pick the mushrooms and then had
- 5:18Speaker 1: subsequently served them to these people to her family members
- 5:21Speaker 1: at the meal. Aaron Patterson denied that completely. Why is
- 5:26Speaker 1: this a ground of appeal?
- 5:27Speaker 3: The defense in the appeal says that this evidence just
- 5:30Speaker 3: wasn't relevant because there is no evidence to suggest that
- 5:33Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson actually looked at those posts on the OI
- 5:35Speaker 3: Naturalist website or travel to those areas.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Our Naturalist was a really big part of the trial
- 5:42Speaker 1: because there was evidence of Aaron Patterson having been interested
- 5:46Speaker 1: in NI Naturalists, but it was difficult for the Crown
- 5:48Speaker 1: to present evidence of exactly what she looked at because
- 5:51Speaker 1: one of her phones had gone missing and wasn't able
- 5:54Speaker 1: to be located at all. There was a huge amount
- 5:56Speaker 1: of evidence in discussion about that exactly.
- 5:59Speaker 3: So they're saying it's a pretty long bow to draw,
- 6:02Speaker 3: and that the jury might have been led by the
- 6:04Speaker 3: prosecution to interpret that in any other way than it's
- 6:09Speaker 3: a coincidence that she happened to like this website.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Okay, ground four is a lot simpler. This is about
- 6:17Speaker 1: whether or not the jury should have been made a
- 6:19Speaker 1: where are Facebook posts between Aaron Patterson and some friends
- 6:22Speaker 1: that she'd made in true crime groups actually about her family?
- 6:27Speaker 1: Aaron had told these Facebook friends a lot about what
- 6:30Speaker 1: was going on in the family as she split up
- 6:32Speaker 1: slowly from Simon Patterson, and expressed in a number of
- 6:36Speaker 1: posts her frustration with his family members. A lot of
- 6:42Speaker 1: it related to money, whether she was applying for child
- 6:44Speaker 1: support or not. What's her counsel, the applicant's counsel saying
- 6:47Speaker 1: about that?
- 6:48Speaker 3: Now Pattison's lawyers are saying that actually those messages aren't
- 6:51Speaker 3: relevant at all, or that they don't have the value,
- 6:54Speaker 3: the probative value to build a case against her in
- 6:58Speaker 3: this instance, said these messages were sent and received by
- 7:03Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson's online friends at a time when she was
- 7:06Speaker 3: separating from Simon Patterson. It came about because she discovered
- 7:10Speaker 3: that Simon had listed himself as separated on a tax return,
- 7:13Speaker 3: and then she said well, now I'm within my rights
- 7:16Speaker 3: to claim child support from you. That kicked off this
- 7:19Speaker 3: conversation about the money, and Simon's parents had suggested that
- 7:23Speaker 3: maybe just getting together and having a conversation about this
- 7:26Speaker 3: would be better for everybody, and especially the children, but
- 7:30Speaker 3: she was resistant for that idea and said some pretty
- 7:32Speaker 3: nasty things about them.
- 7:35Speaker 1: We've used a voice actor to read the Facebook messages
- 7:38Speaker 1: extracted from Aaron Patterson's phone as they were read to
- 7:42Speaker 1: the jury in her trial.
- 7:45Speaker 4: Don said they can't adjudicate if they don't know both sides,
- 7:48Speaker 4: and Simon won't give his side, so he said all
- 7:51Speaker 4: he can ask is that Simon and I get together
- 7:54Speaker 4: and pray for the children. This family, I swear to
- 7:56Speaker 4: fucking God, nobody bloody listened to me. At least they
- 8:00Speaker 4: know they're a lost cause. I'm sick of this shit.
- 8:03Speaker 4: I want nothing to do with them, so fuck them.
- 8:07Speaker 4: His mum was horrified I had claimed child support. Why
- 8:10Speaker 4: isn't she horrified her son is such a deadbeat that
- 8:13Speaker 4: I had no choice but to claim.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Now, when you're on trial for murdering them, that looks
- 8:20Speaker 1: pretty damning exactly. But what the Council for Patterson is
- 8:24Speaker 1: saying is that. Well, the prosecution explicitly said they were
- 8:29Speaker 1: not going to claim that hatred of the Pattersons was
- 8:32Speaker 1: her motive. In fact, what the Crown said in the
- 8:34Speaker 1: trial was that they weren't going to put a motive
- 8:37Speaker 1: at all. They weren't going to try and persuade the
- 8:38Speaker 1: jury of a motive at all. All they had to
- 8:40Speaker 1: do was persuade the jury beyond reasonable doubt that Aaron
- 8:43Speaker 1: Patterson did knowingly serve these deathcat mushrooms in the attempt
- 8:47Speaker 1: to kill them. So the lawyers now are saying, well,
- 8:51Speaker 1: you put these messages which are so damning, and that
- 8:55Speaker 1: is effectively you might as well have put them as
- 8:57Speaker 1: a motive. But she didn't get the opportunity to answer
- 9:00Speaker 1: that properly. I mean, we both covered the trial. They
- 9:03Speaker 1: were pretty this is a pindrop moment, wasn't it? When
- 9:05Speaker 1: these Facebook messages were read to the jury.
- 9:08Speaker 3: It was. And not only that, it also appeared to
- 9:10Speaker 3: contradict something that Aaron herself had touched on in her
- 9:14Speaker 3: evidence in chief, which was that she was a person
- 9:18Speaker 3: of faith, that she felt at home in the Patterson
- 9:20Speaker 3: family because of their connection to the church.
- 9:23Speaker 1: And that she had a warm and loving relationship with
- 9:24Speaker 1: all these.
- 9:25Speaker 3: People exactly, and then to sort of say, you know,
- 9:27Speaker 3: they want us to go and pray over it. What idiots?
- 9:30Speaker 3: It doesn't look good.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Coming up. Why the Crown wants Patterson's non parole period increased? Now,
- 9:53Speaker 1: Grandfather of the appeal is something that I think any
- 9:55Speaker 1: convicted person would probably bring in as a ground. This
- 9:58Speaker 1: is that the cross examination was a pre and unfair.
- 10:01Speaker 1: The crown prosecutor lead crown prosecutor at trial was doctor
- 10:04Speaker 1: Nanette Rogers. She's the silk, and she did aggressively cross
- 10:09Speaker 1: examine Aaron Patterson.
- 10:11Speaker 2: There was undisputed evidence that was effectively repeated at length,
- 10:15Speaker 2: and what occurred effectively was a rehashing of the prosecution case.
- 10:20Speaker 2: In our submission that caused an unfairness at this trial.
- 10:25Speaker 1: The dynamic in that courtroom when Patterson was giving evidence
- 10:28Speaker 1: was so interesting, wasn't it. You know, she really thought, Patterson,
- 10:31Speaker 1: you could tell she thought she was the smartest person
- 10:34Speaker 1: in the room, and she decided to give evidence something
- 10:36Speaker 1: she didn't have to do. That's right.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Most defense barristers will recommend their clients don't give evidence
- 10:42Speaker 3: in their own defense purely because it opens them up
- 10:45Speaker 3: to a cross examination by somebody like Nanette Rogers, who
- 10:48Speaker 3: is a very experienced prosecutor.
- 10:51Speaker 1: One interesting point that the appeal judges were putting to
- 10:55Speaker 1: the Patterson lawyers now is, well, Colin Mandyasi, who was
- 10:59Speaker 1: the defense counsel at the trial, he didn't object to
- 11:02Speaker 1: any of this, or if he did, it was resolved
- 11:04Speaker 1: in the moment, you know, he didn't then make an
- 11:07Speaker 1: application to the judge the jury should be dismissed and
- 11:09Speaker 1: we should start again, because this is so unfair, that's right.
- 11:11Speaker 3: And they touched upon an instance where Colin Mandy was
- 11:14Speaker 3: given by Justice Christopher Biale time to think about if
- 11:17Speaker 3: he wanted to make such an application overnight, and he
- 11:21Speaker 3: came back and ultimately didn't take him up on that offer,
- 11:23Speaker 3: and so the trial proceeded as was planned.
- 11:33Speaker 1: The sixth ground is that Nanett Rodgers's closing address was
- 11:36Speaker 1: also unfair to wear In Patterson, because, just like in
- 11:39Speaker 1: the cross examination, the lawyers for Patterson are now saying
- 11:42Speaker 1: that Nanett Rodgers raised all sorts of things that weren't
- 11:45Speaker 1: fairly included in the opening address, for example, or that
- 11:48Speaker 1: were prejudicial to Patterson, and that she didn't get a
- 11:50Speaker 1: proper opportunity to respond to them. One of those things
- 11:54Speaker 1: was whether or not she had a friendly relationship with
- 11:56Speaker 1: the elderly relatives and regularly had them over to lunch.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Another was how sick she was after the lunch herself.
- 12:04Speaker 1: This was really intriguing at trial, wasn't it. Aaron Patterson
- 12:07Speaker 1: claimed that she was herself quite unwell after the lunch,
- 12:11Speaker 1: but she certainly wasn't admitted to hospital, it wasn't in
- 12:14Speaker 1: intensive care like everybody else.
- 12:15Speaker 3: And also this was at the point during the trial,
- 12:18Speaker 3: during Aaron Patterson's own evidence that she introduced actually a
- 12:22Speaker 3: new idea, which was that she had an eating disorder
- 12:24Speaker 3: that caused her after the lunch to eat the dessert
- 12:27Speaker 3: that was left there and then to throw up, and
- 12:29Speaker 3: that perhaps the fact that she had thrown up meant
- 12:33Speaker 3: that her own symptoms were significantly reduced because the poison
- 12:37Speaker 3: from the death cat mushrooms wasn't able to enter her
- 12:39Speaker 3: system in the same way.
- 12:45Speaker 1: And that relates to ground seven to io, which is
- 12:47Speaker 1: all about motive. Patterson is now saying it's unfair that
- 12:51Speaker 1: the Crown's closing address implied there was a motive for
- 12:54Speaker 1: murder the family unhappiness, even though in its opening address
- 12:59Speaker 1: the Crown said it wasn't going to put a motive
- 13:01Speaker 1: at all. So Patterson now says she didn't get the
- 13:04Speaker 1: opportunity to answer this question of whether her feelings about
- 13:08Speaker 1: the Pattersons were a motive to kill them. And this
- 13:16Speaker 1: is an intriguing case. I haven't covered a murder case
- 13:19Speaker 1: before when no motive is put to the jury. That
- 13:22Speaker 1: was obviously a tactical decision made by the Crown. It's
- 13:25Speaker 1: now one of Patterson's grounds for appeal. But the next
- 13:30Speaker 1: part of the appeal hearing that we're going to have
- 13:32Speaker 1: on Thursday is the Crown appealing against the adequacy of
- 13:37Speaker 1: this sentence.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson was given three life sentences for the murders
- 13:41Speaker 3: of Don Gale and Heather and a twenty five year
- 13:44Speaker 3: sentence for the attempted murder of Ian Wilkinson, who was,
- 13:47Speaker 3: as we said, the sole survivor of the lunch. And
- 13:50Speaker 3: under Victorian law, when the maximum sentence is given for
- 13:53Speaker 3: either of those crimes, which are very serious crimes, the
- 13:56Speaker 3: sentencing judge must give a non parole period, so Aaron
- 14:00Speaker 3: Patterson will be in her early eighties before she is
- 14:03Speaker 3: eligible for parole. Justice Bille in sentencing Aaron Patterson said
- 14:07Speaker 3: that she will probably spend a large chunk of her
- 14:11Speaker 3: time in prison in solitary confinement. She's already serving that
- 14:15Speaker 3: sentence in a very tough women's prison, and he said
- 14:18Speaker 3: so that was kind of part of his rationale for
- 14:21Speaker 3: fixing that non parole period of thirty three years. The
- 14:24Speaker 3: Crown says, actually, if you're going to murder three people
- 14:28Speaker 3: an attempt to murder a fourth, then thirty three years
- 14:31Speaker 3: actually doesn't cut it.
- 14:32Speaker 1: I've got to say I agree. I mean, if you
- 14:34Speaker 1: think about Aaron Patterson as a domestic violence murderer, which
- 14:38Speaker 1: is what I think she is, you know, this is
- 14:40Speaker 1: a crime just like the men who we see, you know,
- 14:43Speaker 1: setting their families on fire or killing their children with
- 14:47Speaker 1: gun I think one of the issues with this case
- 14:50Speaker 1: is that it's been interpreted as kind of a quirky
- 14:52Speaker 1: country murder mystery, like an episode of some BBC drama,
- 14:57Speaker 1: rather than being about the very serious brutal murders of innocent,
- 15:01Speaker 1: trusting people. The risk for the Crown with appealing on
- 15:04Speaker 1: a sentence is that it gets reduced.
- 15:07Speaker 3: As a society, we have all agreed that the punishment
- 15:10Speaker 3: for a crime of this nature is imprisonment, often for
- 15:13Speaker 3: a very very long time. And if you don't want
- 15:16Speaker 3: to serve a large chunk of your life in solitary
- 15:19Speaker 3: confinement or in a prison, don't premeditate to kill four people.
- 15:27Speaker 1: Thanks Chrissy, Thank you. Kristin Amiot is the producer of
- 15:35Speaker 1: the front. We'll be covering the rest of the appeal
- 15:37Speaker 1: live at the Australian dot com dot au