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- 0:10well hello everyone and welcome to movie goodness where we examine life through cinema here on the kb radio network i am your humbled host kevin reeds and man and man can
- 0:25we go
- 0:2624 hours without drama in this country is that possible is it even uh an achievable goal at this point you know there's no peace
- 0:39there is zero peace in this country now you can make the argument there never has been you know it everybody has not been pleased throughout their entire life there's always something going on understandably so we have different creeds religions racism uh sexualities
- 0:58and everything else going on and there's always somebody being bullied at whatever era at whatever time and whatever.
- 1:07location here in the United States.
- 1:09But it seems like now
- 1:13I know this is going to anger a lot of folks out there,
- 1:16but it's the reality.
- 1:18It seems like when this orange colored
- 1:23Muppet that is the president of this country is in office,
- 1:28office is always some drama,
- 1:31man.
- 1:32There's never a moment of peace.
- 1:33You can go all the way back to the first administration.
- 1:36And now here we are again,
- 1:39and we're not even six months into this administration or this term.
- 1:45And it's drama,
- 1:46man.
- 1:46It's just craziness.
- 1:49Today's episode,
- 1:50we're going to discuss what's currently going on in Los Angeles,
- 1:55California.
- 1:56Yes,
- 1:57the protests.
- 1:58And not only in
- 2:00L.A., but it's going on around the country.
- 2:02I think Dallas.
- 2:04has a protest going on currently as I'm recording and there there are a number of protests going on all stemming from this mass deportation that was a decree of Donald Trump you know in his
- 2:21MAGA coat who have decided that all illegal aliens all immigrants all uh migrants can go on about their merry way just kick them out of the country
- 2:34Which is mind-boggling to me,
- 2:36being as though this country was built on immigrants.
- 2:39This country was founded on immigrants.
- 2:42This country is a country of immigrants,
- 2:45yet they don't allow immigrants.
- 2:50I just don't get it.
- 2:52I just don't understand it.
- 2:54You know,
- 2:54the term go back to where you come from,
- 2:57that is constantly thrown around in this country,
- 3:00is the most hypocritical.
- 3:03as a non-statement you could ever make that you could ever other as an american citizen it is it is crazy to me but we're gonna focus on what's currently going on in los angeles uh for the sake of this show and
- 3:21how it all started why it all started is not just people rising up and you know uh burning down this city
- 3:32it's not so much that it it was kicked off man it was it was the straw that broke the broke the camel's back if you will um and we're gonna go over what led to this four days and i'm recording this on june the 9th uh
- 3:50it started on june the 6th and probably still gonna be going on for days i don't know how long but we're gonna go through the timeline from june the 6th until now
- 4:02For the sole reason
- 4:04I've talked to a few people about what's going on the last couple of days and they didn't know
- 4:11How it started why it started and you know
- 4:15What brought about all of this and this that and the third and
- 4:20I was kind of shocked by that I like oh,
- 4:21you don't know do you know?
- 4:23So
- 4:24I would I would try to explain to him why it took place in
- 4:29What started this wildfire?
- 4:32No pun intended for L.A.,
- 4:34all due respect.
- 4:35So for educational purposes,
- 4:37we're going to go over the timeline and what started it and whatnot.
- 4:43And then after all of that,
- 4:44we're going to have a review,
- 4:46of course.
- 4:47We're going to review a film from 1998 that stars
- 4:52Denzel Washington,
- 4:53Annette Bening,
- 4:55and Bruce Willis,
- 4:56The Siege,
- 4:58which is similar.
- 5:00to what we're discussing today is a movie about uh martial law which is basically what's going on in la right now it's not so much martial law but it's it's it's heading in that direction if this continues on this path and so let's go over the chain of events that
- 5:20have led us to this point right now but on june the 6th at approximately
- 5:279 15 la time
- 5:30On Friday morning,
- 5:31an immigrant raid was conducted within the Los Angeles Fashion District.
- 5:37Two other raids occurred at a fashion warehouse and a wholesale place,
- 5:44or I guess it's a warehouse,
- 5:46and a Home Depot.
- 5:47Over 100 people were arrested at three different locations.
- 5:52Several federal agents respond to protests with stun grenades.
- 5:58Clash between protesters and agents broke out at the Metropolitan
- 6:03Detention Center.
- 6:05The agents present at the raid were identified as the FBI,
- 6:11Homeland Security,
- 6:13and the Bureau of Alcohol,
- 6:15Tobacco,
- 6:16and Firearms and Explosives.
- 6:18Those were the patches on those agents'
- 6:23clothing.
- 6:24Homeland Security investigations stayed.
- 6:27that
- 6:2844 people were administratively arrested.
- 6:32Now,
- 6:32I don't know what administratively arrested means,
- 6:35but that's the term that they gave.
- 6:38And one person was arrested for obstruction.
- 6:42That one person arrested for obstruction was David Helter.
- 6:47And if you don't know who David Helter is,
- 6:48he is the California president of Social
- 6:52Employees
- 6:53International Union.
- 6:55I think it's the second.
- 6:57biggest union in the state of california um he was arrested for blocking a vehicle in charge with a felony conspiracy to impale an officer uh hailer was injured and taken to the hospital where he was transferred to the metropolitan detention center uh
- 7:16just a little update as of today june the
- 7:199th he was released from custody but he was held for uh
- 7:25Held it at detention center since
- 7:28Friday.
- 7:29Protesters began to follow the arrest.
- 7:32Clashes between protesters and ICE agents in riot gear occurred near the Home Depot in Wesley.
- 7:40ICE also arrested several people at a clothing store and clashed with activists.
- 7:46After some protesters hurled chunks of broken concrete towards officers,
- 7:52the
- 7:53LA Police Department engaged in intense standoffs with protesters in which tear gas,
- 7:59pepper spray,
- 8:00and flash bomb,
- 8:01uh,
- 8:02bang grenades were used to disperse the crowd.
- 8:06Approximately 200 protesters remained at the facility by 9 p.m.
- 8:12LA time when the Los Angeles
- 8:15Police Department ordered protesters to disperse.
- 8:19the police department
- 8:20authorized the use of less lethal methods the following hour.
- 8:26This was followed at 8.24 p.m.
- 8:30L.A.
- 8:30time by a citywide tactical alert.
- 8:35Moving on to Saturday,
- 8:36June 7th,
- 8:37protesters against the raid continued through that day.
- 8:43According to Peggy Lemons,
- 8:45the mayor of Paramount,
- 8:47California,
- 8:48A confrontation near a Home Depot began after protesters observed Department of Homeland Security officers staging near a local branch building.
- 8:59The Department of Homeland Security estimated that 1,000 people were protesting at the building.
- 9:07The director of the Coalition of Humane
- 9:11Immigration Rights of Los Angeles stated that there were seven raids in which
- 9:1845 people have been detained.
- 9:20At least two people were injured.
- 9:22According to the New York Times,
- 9:24the protests have delayed processing of the detainees.
- 9:30California Governor
- 9:31Gavin Newsom announced that
- 9:34California high patrol units would be deployed to protect Los Angeles freeways.
- 9:42By
- 9:42June 7,
- 9:43118 undocumented
- 9:47Immigrants have been arrested in Los Angeles,
- 9:50according to the Department of Homeland Security.
- 9:54In Paramount,
- 9:55protesters blocked the street with shopping carts and recycling bins.
- 10:00Federal agents then dropped flashbang grenades and pepper bombs,
- 10:06injuring two people.
- 10:07World Socialist website reporters reportedly sustained injuries while documenting the protests,
- 10:15including a reporter being shot in the back with a rubber bullet by a U.S.
- 10:20immigration officer.
- 10:22According to an attorney with the
- 10:25Coronation for Humane Immigration Rights of Los Angeles,
- 10:30Some protesters were throwing bricks and other looked injured.
- 10:35At 2.30 p.m.
- 10:37L.A.
- 10:37time,
- 10:38the LAPD issued a disperse order using loudspeakers.
- 10:44Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department deputies then used tear gas against the protesters to disperse them.
- 10:52One
- 10:52ICE agent sustained injuries after a rock thrown by a protester struck the windshield of the vehicle.
- 10:59they were driving and cut their head at around 8 p.m la time two people were arrested on suspicion of assaulting police officers including one who allegedly threw a monotaufe cocktail causing
- 11:17minor injuries to three deputies and if you don't know what a monotaufe cocktail is that's uh when you had the bottle of whatever flammable eunuch and with the
- 11:29with the rag at the top you know coming out the rim of it and lightning on fire that's a monotaufe cocktail uh british photojournalist nick steen was struck by a non-lethal police round while reporting on
- 11:46protesters near a home depot in paramount a locally a location often used for hiring migrant workers for day labor he underwent surgery
- 11:57Protesters also gathered at the Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown L.A.
- 12:04with law enforcement forming a skirmish line to disperse the protesters.
- 12:11Shortly before 11 p.m.
- 12:13L.A.
- 12:14time,
- 12:14protesters threw an object at and hit a police officer as it was leaving the area at an intersection in downtown L.A.
- 12:26Bye night.
- 12:26The protesters reached Compton,
- 12:29where several demonstrators threw glass bottles filled with a substance that reportedly smelled like gasoline.
- 12:38In an interview with Fox News,
- 12:40White House Executive
- 12:42Associated Director of Enforcement and Removal Operations,
- 12:49Tom Hortman announced that the National Guard would be sent into
- 12:54L.A. that night.
- 12:55That evening.
- 12:56President Donald J.
- 12:58Trump signed a memorandum deploying 2,000 members of the California National Guard to the protest.
- 13:06Trump invoked an order to nationalize the National Guard,
- 13:12the first time a president had deployed a National Guard force without approval from a state governor since the
- 13:19Selma to
- 13:21Montgomery March in
- 13:231965, if you need a reference.
- 13:26to how long that has been um in a tweet the secretary of defense stated that uh active marines were on high alert at camp penitent and i'm i'm familiar with that not that i've been there but my brother is a former marine and that's where he went for his basic training but that's that's something crazy
- 13:49you're actually going to deploy marines at this point i was like well that's not Yeah,
- 13:55you know.
- 13:56They're not going to do that.
- 13:57Really?
- 13:58There's no way they're going to do that.
- 14:00Well,
- 14:01the clock kept turning.
- 14:03On
- 14:04Sunday, June the 8th,
- 14:06the protests kind of died down in the early morning,
- 14:11but were still ongoing.
- 14:12I guess because it was Sunday and it's the day of rest,
- 14:16so it wasn't as high alert as it was those first two days.
- 14:23But it was still ongoing with organizers calling for another day of protest.
- 14:29Protests outside of
- 14:31Los Angeles City Hall occurred at around 2 p.m.
- 14:36L.A.
- 14:36time on Sunday.
- 14:38300
- 14:39California Armed
- 14:41Army National Guard troops from the
- 14:4579th Infantry
- 14:46Brigade Combat Team were deployed to three separate locations.
- 14:52in los angeles most of the troops were seen outside a federal building under the directions of the uh
- 15:01uh secretary of defense approximately 500 active duty marines from the marine corps air ground combat center uh 29 palms were put on a prepare to deploy status at
- 15:18the at the metropolitan detention center the national guard and the department of homeland security officers
- 15:28You smoke in...
- 15:30pepper spray to displace protesters and open a path for the Department of Homeland Security,
- 15:37Border
- 15:38Patrol, and other military vehicles to enter the facility.
- 15:43National Guard troops also arrived outside the downtown
- 15:48L.A. detention center.
- 15:50Police had arrived to join the National Guard by noon
- 15:55L.A. time on Sunday.
- 15:57Tom Holman commented while speaking to
- 16:00NBC News that somebody was going to lose their life if the protests continue.
- 16:05Also noting that Governor of California
- 16:09Gavin Newsom and Mayor of Los Angeles
- 16:13Karen Bass could potentially face federal charges over the response to the ICE raid.
- 16:21Trump later threatened to have troops everywhere if the protests spread to other cities and said that
- 16:29If we see danger in our country and our citizens,
- 16:34the Marines will be deployed to the cities.
- 16:38Hmm.
- 16:39Um,
- 16:42this dude,
- 16:43man.
- 16:43Um,
- 16:44and at 2 30 PM
- 16:46LA time,
- 16:47the
- 16:48LAPD central division announced that the city of Los Angeles was on tactical alert.
- 16:56Subsequently at two.
- 16:5849 p.m the lapd central division announced that less lethal methods have been authorized for use to disperse the protest individuals throwing objects at police would be detained and arrested and that a unlawful assembly have been declared by the incident
- 17:21commander two lapd officers were injured after motorcyclists
- 17:28attempt to breach the uh skirmish line and hit them at a protest in the amada and temple area both riders were detained and the officers were treated at the scene the los angeles police department announced that a number of people were arrested at the civil center a civic center area in downtown la including several
- 17:53people who were detained and handcuffed with zip ties
- 17:57Before 4 p.m.
- 17:58LA time,
- 17:59protesters entered the
- 18:02US 101 freeway in downtown Los Angeles and blocked traffic,
- 18:07causing police to shut down the freeway in both directions.
- 18:10The LAPD announced that parts of the freeway and multiple streets were closed to drivers as a result of the protests.
- 18:19Five of those drive-thru cars,
- 18:21the
- 18:22Waymo, I forgot who.
- 18:26what is under i think it's under google or something i don't know but those drive list cars they were vandalized and set on fire lapd officials warned that burning um these electric cars with the ion batteries released toxic gases into the air and
- 18:45so they employed them not to do that because they didn't care i think that's the last thing on their minds at that point releasing toxic gases uh but uh around
- 18:564 p.m.
- 18:57L.A.
- 18:57time,
- 18:58Garrett Newsom sent a letter to the
- 19:02Secretary of Defense requesting him to rescind
- 19:07Trump's order to deploy the National Guard,
- 19:10calling it a serious breach of state sovereignty.
- 19:16By night,
- 19:17the LAPD also announced that on their social media that the entire downtown Los Angeles area.
- 19:24is considered to be unlawful assembly and urged everyone to leave the area.
- 19:32A reporter for,
- 19:35I think,
- 19:35an Australian news station,
- 19:38she was struck by a rubber bullet while reporting on the protests outside of the Metropolitan
- 19:44Detention Center in downtown Los Angeles right at the time the police were beginning to disperse the protesters.
- 19:54Police were hurling out those rubber bullets.
- 19:58She was a casualty of that,
- 20:02collateral damage as they call it.
- 20:05She's all right,
- 20:06but it was a rubber bullet,
- 20:07but they still hurt.
- 20:09So poor her,
- 20:11I hope she makes it out all right with that.
- 20:14But the LAPD reported that looting had occurred at stores in the area of
- 20:216th Street and Broadway,
- 20:23which is in downtown Los Angeles,
- 20:25as well as near.
- 20:278th Street and Broadway.
- 20:29Several fires also reported to have been set in dumpsters and trash bins.
- 20:35Numerous buildings,
- 20:36including the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters,
- 20:40the United States Courthouse,
- 20:43and the old
- 20:45Los Angeles Times building were tagged with graffiti.
- 20:49At least one store had windows shattered by alleged looters.
- 20:55Multiple windows at the
- 20:57Los Angeles Police Department headquarters were also broken.
- 21:01The United States Northern Command established a formal task force,
- 21:06Task Force 51,
- 21:08to coordinate a military response.
- 21:11Late that night,
- 21:13on Sunday night I should say,
- 21:15the city of Glendale decided to terminate its detention agreement with ICE,
- 21:21in part as a reaction.
- 21:24to the protests and unrest in los angeles and so that's how it went to bed on sunday night at that glendale folded i guess the protest worked for glendale and so we move on to monday june
- 21:39the night and we have governor newson announced early monday morning that his office intends to sue the trump administration for deploying the national guard without consulting with his office.
- 21:53He called the move illegal and immoral and also accused President Trump of fellow rising the National Guard.
- 22:04Now,
- 22:04as far as that goes,
- 22:06it's kind of murky how that works.
- 22:08Now,
- 22:08the National Guard is under the states.
- 22:12I don't know.
- 22:12I don't know if it works like that in every single state,
- 22:15you know,
- 22:15but in California,
- 22:17it's a dual thing.
- 22:19And I believe it's in every state.
- 22:21But it's a dual thing between the state and the federal government.
- 22:25You know,
- 22:25it doesn't just belong to one entity.
- 22:28It belongs to everybody.
- 22:30And so one can't do give one order without the other,
- 22:34even though,
- 22:35yes,
- 22:35the president does outrank the governor.
- 22:39If you want to pull ranks here,
- 22:41but it's still it's still a process.
- 22:45You know,
- 22:45you can't just I can't just come in your house.
- 22:48and and take your remote and change the tv you know i gotta come in i gotta ask first i gotta be invited and then i gotta ask hey can we watch such and such you know i can't just take the remote and so it's the same it's the same principles here uh when it comes to ordering
- 23:06or deploying the national guard so i don't know how much validity that lawsuit will hold you know it all sounds like
- 23:19political bs to me but whatever you know because it's not so that's not solving anything you filing a lawsuit and buildings are burning you know cars are being burnt up who cares about you worry about that later you know what i'm saying but i
- 23:34get it you know it's all it's all politics now this is the part this is the part where my jaw literally hit the ground and i was like are you
- 23:47Did he really say that?
- 23:49You know,
- 23:50did he really utter these words?
- 23:53While speaking to reporters at the White House,
- 23:56Trump described the protesters in California as insurrectionists.
- 24:04What?
- 24:08And he's probably right.
- 24:10He's probably right.
- 24:12But what were they?
- 24:15on January
- 24:166th, you know,
- 24:17what were those guys?
- 24:18They were insurrectionists as well.
- 24:22And I know I'm slurring it.
- 24:24I got a speech impediment.
- 24:25Work with me here.
- 24:26But y'all know what I'm talking about.
- 24:29And you pardoned them.
- 24:30They were good.
- 24:30They out of prison.
- 24:31They out of jail.
- 24:32And so how can you label these people something that these people actually are?
- 24:38But I'll speak more on that in a minute.
- 24:41I just want to.
- 24:43It's just mind-boggling.
- 24:45This dude is a clown.
- 24:47But anyways,
- 24:49hopping back into
- 24:52June the 9th,
- 24:54many of the media speculated that
- 24:58This language could give him a ratification,
- 25:02you know,
- 25:03give him a ratification to invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act.
- 25:12So what that is,
- 25:16is a
- 25:17U.S. federal law that empowers the president of the United States to naturally deploy the U.S.
- 25:24government and to federalize.
- 25:27the National Guard units in an individual state for specific circumstances,
- 25:33such as suppression of civil disorder or insurrection or armed rebellions against the federal government,
- 25:46stuff like that.
- 25:47So using that verbiage is his end,
- 25:54you know,
- 25:54to militarize.
- 25:58and,
- 25:59you know,
- 26:00pretty much have martial law in California and pretty much use the military as his personal bodyguard or his personal hit squad,
- 26:09if you will.
- 26:12Trump went on to say even further,
- 26:16as he believed that the governor of California,
- 26:19Gavin Newsom,
- 26:21should be arrested,
- 26:23saying in a quote,
- 26:24I would do it if I were Tom.
- 26:26Referring to Tom
- 26:28Holman, whom
- 26:31Gavin Newsom has taunted to go to California to arrest him.
- 26:37Newsom responded shortly after saying,
- 26:41this is a day I hoped I would never see in America.
- 26:45And this is an unmistakable step towards authoritarianism.
- 26:53Trump wrote on his social media.
- 26:57platform thing,
- 26:57truth,
- 26:58social.
- 27:00This was his,
- 27:01I guess you could say,
- 27:02tweet or whatever.
- 27:04If they spit,
- 27:05we will hit.
- 27:06This is a statement from the president of the United States concerning a catastrophic
- 27:14Gavin Newsom-inspired riot going on in Los Angeles.
- 27:20The insurrectionists have a tendency to spit in the face of the National Guard's men.
- 27:26and women and others these patriots are told to accept this it's just the way life runs but not in the trump administration if they spit we hit that was in all caps by the way and
- 27:42i promise you they will be hit harder than they have ever been hit before such disrespect will not be tolerated uh in quote that is from the desk
- 27:56of your president.
- 27:57CNN and
- 27:59NBC4
- 28:00Los Angeles reported that per the Pentagon,
- 28:04700 Marines from
- 28:08Marine Corps Base 29 Palms were deployed to Los Angeles alongside the National Guard.
- 28:16They are from the 2nd Battalion,
- 28:187th
- 28:19Marines, 1st Marine Division.
- 28:22The same day,
- 28:24an additional
- 28:252,000 National Guard members were authorized by Trump for deployment,
- 28:30bringing the total to more than 4,100 total military,
- 28:36uh,
- 28:37uh,
- 28:37at least presence there in Los Angeles on Monday afternoon.
- 28:41Uh,
- 28:43as I said before,
- 28:44David,
- 28:44uh,
- 28:45Helter was released from custody on a $50,000 bond late Monday night,
- 28:52the San Francisco Chronicle.
- 28:54published a leaked letter from Secretary of Homeland
- 28:59Security Kristi Noem to
- 29:03U.S. Defense Secretary Pete
- 29:06Hagseff that requested direction to
- 29:12DOD forces to either detain just as they would as any federal facility guarded by military.
- 29:23lawbreakers under title 18 until they can be arrested and processed by federal law enforcement or arrest them gnome also acts for drone surveillance uh support as
- 29:38well as weapons and logistics assistance in los angeles and that's where we currently stand at the time of this recording as far as the protests that are currently going on
- 29:53in Los Angeles,
- 29:54California,
- 29:57just to be...
- 29:58all on board to call give everybody their just due there are other cities that are having protests um in solidarity outside of the house ice offices in uh san francisco you
- 30:13had protests those protests ended when police arrested 148 people two police officers were injured during the protest in the city several buildings and vehicles were also damaged
- 30:28In New York City,
- 30:30another solidarity protest occurred outside of 26 Federal Plaza,
- 30:37ending with police taking multiple people into custody.
- 30:41Two dozen more were also arrested while protesting at the good old Trump Tower there in New York City.
- 30:50Solidarity protests were also held in other cities such as Boston,
- 30:54Portland,
- 30:55Maine.
- 30:57salt lake city,
- 30:58Hartford,
- 30:59uh,
- 30:59Tampa,
- 31:00Sacramento,
- 31:01Houston,
- 31:02San Antonio,
- 31:04Phoenix,
- 31:05uh,
- 31:05Seattle,
- 31:06Philadelphia,
- 31:07Detroit,
- 31:08Baltimore,
- 31:09and
- 31:10Chicago. And so,
- 31:11um,
- 31:11this,
- 31:12this is not,
- 31:15this isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
- 31:18Anytime soon.
- 31:20Uh,
- 31:21this reminds me of not.
- 31:24not to the degree of the black lives matter movement uh because that was a different thing but this this this is more of a i don't know it just feels like it's more of a sense of urgency here uh with this because quite
- 31:40honestly i understand the protest you know i somewhat to a degree support the protest and the reason i say to a degree i don't agree with the vandalism i Don't.
- 31:53agree with the looting and the destruction of property and whatnot that that doesn't help nobody actually that hurts you more than it hurts those you are protesting against you know what i'm saying that's that's that's senseless to me because you're destroying your own community um
- 32:13now in this sense they're not really destroying their own community they're going after police buildings and federal buildings and stuff like that but you know they're still gonna hurt you alone.
- 32:23because it's your tax dollars who's paying for those federal buildings so uh it does affect you in in some short uh shape form or fashion but with all that being said i i don't agree with destruction of property you know you can you can you can make get your point across without being destructive but i understand the anger you know what i'm saying the anger it
- 32:47will make you do things out of character,
- 32:50or
- 32:51bringing a violent nature out of you you know especially especially when you're getting pummeled with uh tear gas and pepper spray and rubber bullets and whatnot you know i mean
- 33:09come on but throwing bricks at these officers and whatnot here's where i here's where i stand with that i understand the anger
- 33:18i understand breaking windows i would rather you break windows out than cause bodily harm you could possibly kill someone you know and those officers for better or worse and trust me i'm not the biggest fan of
- 33:34police officers but those guys are doing their job for the most part those guys are doing their jobs you know they're following orders in in the military they're following
- 33:45And as long as they're not out.
- 33:48there uh uh just randomly hurting people or you know what i'm saying they're just shooting people with rubber bullets just for the uh joy of it all you know they're just doing
- 34:03their job and standing in front of the buildings to try to keep order try to keep peace and keep the roads open for for people who are not protesting just going about their day trying to get back and forth to work or whatever.
- 34:16That's different,
- 34:17man.
- 34:18I mean,
- 34:19they're not doing anything to you.
- 34:21As long as they're not assaulting you,
- 34:24you shouldn't be assaulting them.
- 34:26And now you then flipped it and turned it into something else.
- 34:30And that's the part that disturbs me.
- 34:32That's the part I don't like,
- 34:33because you're taking attention away from that real issue.
- 34:37Because now you're looked at as a hooligan.
- 34:40You know,
- 34:42for example,
- 34:43you look at...
- 34:44the black lives matter movement for better or worse it was peaceful the majority of those protests were peaceful yes there were some vandalism and stuff going on but it wasn't a a whole lot they weren't burning down cities and stuff like that
- 34:58You know,
- 34:59it was peaceful protests for the most part,
- 35:01but it was the people protesting was still labeled as drugs,
- 35:06not drugs,
- 35:07but drugs and hooligans and whatnot.
- 35:10And vandalists and just anarchists and all this other stuff.
- 35:17It was ridiculous.
- 35:19And they weren't doing anything.
- 35:20I remember when they were marching in Washington,
- 35:24D.C.
- 35:25and Trump wanted to.
- 35:27walk across the street you remember walk across the street and take a picture in front of a church with a bible and so to clear out the protesters they uh he ordered the national guard or whoever it was to go out there and hit him with rubber bullets and and gas to clear out the street so he can walk across the street take a picture you
- 35:47know they didn't do anything to you in that regard yeah if the people would have
- 35:52fought back they were in their rights because they were doing a peaceful protest they weren't bothering nobody you know yeah they were blocking up the streets and whatnot but it was it was a protest that's what protests are that's what they were designed for it
- 36:08weren't like they were storming the u.s capital building or nothing like that but anyways yeah uh this this is a cluster in the biggest sense of the word i i don't know how this is going at all
- 36:22end all i know is it's not going to end good i don't see any good coming out of this you know it's not just going to stop you know without somebody being hurt or killed or you know this
- 36:38turned into a authoritative authoritarian nation you know where there's uh military marching down the streets and
- 36:50keeping us in line and there's martial law and all this other foolishness it's it's a scary time it's really scary times but this was all because of trump this is all because of this fool wanting to flex power and
- 37:07for no reason you know do i do i agree with this mass deportation thing no do i think they need to get a handle on this immigration thing
- 37:19Yes,
- 37:20yes,
- 37:21it do need to be under control because it is out of control,
- 37:25you know,
- 37:25but that's not to say that we should close the doors,
- 37:30close the gates and keep people out and kick people out who are already here.
- 37:35No,
- 37:35I don't believe in that.
- 37:37I believe in giving people a chance,
- 37:41giving people opportunity.
- 37:43You know,
- 37:43isn't it written?
- 37:46Isn't it written that,
- 37:47you know,
- 37:48welcome?
- 37:49Welcome your your poor and your hungry.
- 37:51Isn't that part of the creed here in United States?
- 37:56But when did that stop?
- 37:57Well,
- 37:57I didn't know it was a dead a cutoff,
- 38:00you know,
- 38:01I didn't know that we we
- 38:03Just not gonna allow these people here.
- 38:05And now if you're from South Africa or something you all right but if you if you from Mexico or any South
- 38:13American country,
- 38:14no,
- 38:14you can't come here.
- 38:16That's ridiculous to me
- 38:19Because in their minds,
- 38:20and I say dare,
- 38:21I'm talking about the MAGA cult,
- 38:23in their mind,
- 38:24that's all that's down there is criminals and thugs and drug dealers and rapists and murderers.
- 38:32What about the ones that are here?
- 38:34What about the actual
- 38:36United States citizens who are rapists and murderers and thugs and drug dealers?
- 38:42You're not trying to lock them up.
- 38:45No,
- 38:45Trump is pardoning them.
- 38:48they all right but not not not our immigrants uh that is ridiculous to me uh but i hope this all ends soon uh i really do i i hope this can end peacefully and you know uh something
- 39:05can come i don't know i don't know no middle ground because number one trump is trump ain't moving on his stance you know so nothing's gonna change there
- 39:16You know,
- 39:16once a lame,
- 39:17always a lame.
- 39:17He's not going to change.
- 39:20So
- 39:21I don't know.
- 39:22I don't know how this is going to end.
- 39:23I'm just praying that we can come to a peaceful resolution very soon.
- 39:31So let's move on to our review today.
- 39:34Enough about the depressing nature of reality.
- 39:38Let's move over to the depressing nature of a film that took place.
- 39:43In 1998,
- 39:45it is an action thriller directed by Edward
- 39:48Zwick. And this film stars
- 39:51Denzel Washington,
- 39:52Annette Bening,
- 39:53Tony Shalhoub,
- 39:55and
- 39:55Bruce Willis.
- 39:57the siege and this film is about a situation in which a terrorist cell has made several attacks in new york city and prompting the u.s government to declare martial law this film i
- 40:13remember it coming out i was i don't know
- 40:1719 when this movie came out i i was you know this is at the peak of denzel washington or or should i say the
- 40:26I don't know it Denzel Washington always been at the peak huh you really can't pinpoint his peak because he was always
- 40:36Denzel Washington but this this was uh Denzel re-teaming with his director of uh Glory where he won best supporting actor in that film uh Edward
- 40:50Zurich and you know you have Bruce Willis in this thing and he was pretty much at the peak well he was kind of
- 40:57on the downward trend at that point,
- 41:01you know,
- 41:01because he was the co-star of this movie.
- 41:04He wasn't a star,
- 41:05but he was still an action star around 98.
- 41:08You know,
- 41:08this was around the time Armageddon came out.
- 41:11And so he was still a big thing.
- 41:16I was expecting a hardcore action movie out of this.
- 41:21And that's not what we got.
- 41:23And now it's some deep subject matter.
- 41:25and
- 41:26understandably it dealt with the subject matter it wasn't so much action they had action in it but it wasn't a balls to the wall action movie and we're dealing with terrorism around this time and a lot of action movies in
- 41:42the 90s dealt with terrorism especially especially late
- 41:4790s pretty much into the early
- 41:492000s until 9-11 happened when 9-11 happened and we actually got a taste of real terrorism
- 41:56in the United States,
- 41:57all that stopped.
- 41:58You don't see no more movies that deal with terrorism.
- 42:03But around mid to late
- 42:0690s, it was peak terrorism movies.
- 42:09And they were all Middle Eastern.
- 42:11You know,
- 42:11in this film,
- 42:13it was,
- 42:14I think,
- 42:14Lebanese terrorists that attacked New York City with these explosive devices and whatnot.
- 42:21And that prompted a lot of controversy.
- 42:25surrounding this film,
- 42:26um,
- 42:26from the Muslim community,
- 42:28from the,
- 42:29uh,
- 42:29Arab community,
- 42:30especially American Arab communities,
- 42:33uh,
- 42:33they found the film extremely offensive,
- 42:36beyond offensive,
- 42:38you know,
- 42:38and using Muslims as this terrorist,
- 42:42uh,
- 42:42group,
- 42:43and this,
- 42:44you know,
- 42:45the way this movie depicts,
- 42:47uh,
- 42:47Muslims,
- 42:48which they depicted Muslims,
- 42:51all Muslims were evil,
- 42:53You know,
- 42:54they,
- 42:54they...
- 42:55they being the federal government were just rounding up muslims you know and putting them in these detention centers and whatnot uh because they didn't know who to trust and all this here which kind of reminds me it was a movie before his time because after 9-11 that's pretty much what you got here uh did
- 43:12you uh not trust him and they still don't there are a vast majority of Americans now that still don't like Muslims.
- 43:21And so,
- 43:24whatever.
- 43:25You know,
- 43:25I never understood that.
- 43:27I never understood singling out an entire race just because one group of people are a bunch of idiots.
- 43:40Let me go off the rails for a second.
- 43:44White people get upset when black or brown people label white people as racist.
- 43:55And the non-racist white people get offended by it.
- 43:59Oh,
- 44:00that's not us.
- 44:01When I'm not racist,
- 44:03you know,
- 44:03that's just them.
- 44:05Well,
- 44:06how do you think Muslims feel when you lump up all Muslims as terrorists?
- 44:13We don't lump up all white people as racist.
- 44:17But when you do it,
- 44:18they get super offended.
- 44:19Well,
- 44:19put their shoes on for a second.
- 44:21Step outside of yourself.
- 44:23and look at it from their point of view.
- 44:24Same thing as black folks.
- 44:26How white people will label black folks as thugs and criminals.
- 44:31Or,
- 44:32in topical,
- 44:35all Mexicans,
- 44:37all
- 44:38South Americans are rapists and murderers.
- 44:43You can't lump up an entire race of people or entire nationality of people.
- 44:52as one thing just because one group or one person does something idiotic
- 44:58Every race,
- 44:59every creed,
- 45:00every whatever has a moron in it.
- 45:03Every family has a moron in it,
- 45:06you know?
- 45:08But I think this movie is a commentary on that.
- 45:12It wasn't meant to be offensive to Muslims.
- 45:16It was meant to show how short-sighted people can be.
- 45:21You know,
- 45:22instead of hunting down this terrorist cell,
- 45:25they just targeted...
- 45:27muslims you know and tony shalhoub in this film he plays a muslim character and he's the partner of um genzel washington and he ends up being round up in this deportation thing in this uh round
- 45:45up of these muslims and he's an actual federal agent you know it was that it was that serious and same same rules apply
- 45:56for what's going on now or when you have actual u.s citizens being shipped off being deported because oh we'll straighten that out later you know because these countries el salvador and all these other places that they send in these people they sending them back because it's like why are you why are you sending these people here but
- 46:20um as far as the film is concerned the film was not pick good
- 46:25You know,
- 46:28it was decent.
- 46:29It's watchable,
- 46:29but it's not gripping.
- 46:34You know,
- 46:35it's a bit clumsy at times.
- 46:38It doesn't really go there.
- 46:40You know,
- 46:40like I said,
- 46:41it was trying to make a commentary on certain things,
- 46:45but it didn't go full throat with it.
- 46:47You know,
- 46:47they were softballing it,
- 46:49and I guess that's why it was coming off as offensive to certain groups.
- 46:55But as far as the performances,
- 46:57the performances were fine.
- 46:58Of course,
- 46:59Denzel Washington did.
- 47:01I mean,
- 47:03you show me a bad
- 47:04Denzel Washington performance,
- 47:05and I'll give you a dollar.
- 47:07I can't pinpoint not one bad Denzel Washington performance,
- 47:13and he does good here with what he was given.
- 47:16You know,
- 47:18it's kind of basic character.
- 47:20To be honest with you,
- 47:21if you flip the script,
- 47:23um bruce willis could have played this role and it would have been just as good as it is you know it's nothing it isn't it was nothing for him to add here annette benning i think was miscast in this role and she doesn't really fit this movie um
- 47:40speaking of bruce willis bruce willis he was there you know but i think that character was meant to do something more but we didn't get you know it was like it was missing something was you
- 47:53missing there with uh him playing this army general it wasn't i don't know i don't know i it's been years but i still can't pick up on what's missing from that performance
- 48:10or from that role i don't know if it's the way that character was written or the way they trimmed the movie down because the movie is kind of long and it's way too long for what
- 48:21the type of movie it was trying to be it was like it was trying to be more of a awards type film and they were sadly mistaken because it was it was nowhere near that uh but um
- 48:37overall it's decent it's watchable but it is nothing that i would run back to to watch i only i only um pick this because Because I...
- 48:48this is the first movie that came to my mind when I was thinking about all that was taking place uh currently in Los Angeles I was like boy we're heading to that martial law thing and this this is the movie that played in my mind and I had to go back and look
- 49:03for it somewhere
- 49:05I can't even remember where I found it but I watched it uh earlier today in preparation for this show but yeah man this this was this was all right
- 49:16It was an alright movie.
- 49:19The Siege,
- 49:19which came out in 1998,
- 49:22starring Denzel Washington,
- 49:23gets a letter grade of a C-.
- 49:25Yeah,
- 49:26it was,
- 49:27it was,
- 49:28it's nothing to run home and tell mom about.
- 49:31But what you can run home and tell mom about is all that is taking place in Los Angeles,
- 49:37California.
- 49:38If I had one wish about what's going on currently,
- 49:42I wish,
- 49:42and not just in
- 49:43Los Angeles,
- 49:44everywhere else where they...
- 49:46are holding their protests,
- 49:48I hope that they can be civil with it.
- 49:50And I'm not trying to denigrate the reason for the protests.
- 49:57I understand that you want to get your point across.
- 50:00I understand that you are angry,
- 50:03but try to do it in a civil matter.
- 50:06You know,
- 50:07don't give
- 50:08Trump a reason to do what initially he wants to do,
- 50:15you know,
- 50:16and that is deploy the military and cause this,
- 50:21this just division that is.
- 50:24well divided more than what is already divided because this country is split in like 15 different directions uh but don't give him a reason to be the buffoon that he already is you know if he goes off and do it just let him go off and do it but don't don't
- 50:41justify his stupidity that's that's the only thing that i hope that uh we can we can come to a resolution about otherwise i wouldn't really care.
- 50:54you know because they're not killed yeah they're causing property damage and whatever but they're not killing anybody but at the same time throwing concrete and bricks and uh monotone cocktails and stuff like that at offices and stuff you
- 51:11need to tone down with that tone that down please but uh let's just go into prayer and hope that uh this can get
- 51:23solved and resolved fairly quickly but i would like to know what are your thoughts on this situation that is currently sweeping across america as you can see it it started in los angeles but it is touching every corner of this country as
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- 52:22Everybody,
- 52:23thank you for joining me for this show.
- 52:27Hopefully,
- 52:29I don't have to come back on here anytime soon to talk about anything else horrific that is taking place in the United States.
- 52:39But with this buffoon in office,
- 52:42I'm pretty sure that I will.
- 52:44I want you all to know that I love you.
- 52:46Continue to love everyone.
- 52:47And until we speak again,
- 52:50you all be blessed.