Latest / The Breakfast Club / DONKEY: Politicians Should Stop Using Extreme Rhetoric To Each Other If They Turn Around And 'Work Together'
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Time. This is americle.
- 0:04Speaker 2: There is no question, and there are problems in this
- 0:07Speaker 2: country between police and community.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Yes, you are a donkey to the latest on that
- 0:14Speaker 3: police killing of a black man, now the new developments
- 0:16Speaker 3: in the deathly spatshooting rampage man.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Yes, it was a really bad day.
- 0:19Speaker 2: For him and this is what he did, and so
- 0:21Speaker 2: we are in a state of emergency.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:24Speaker 2: White supremacist violence, it is always have been the number
- 0:28Speaker 2: one threat to our society.
- 0:29Speaker 1: But I'm also very proud that my wife is white.
- 0:33Speaker 1: It's a practice club bitches.
- 0:35Speaker 2: All right, trendy, please tell me why was I your
- 0:38Speaker 2: donkey of the day, you know, donkey of today for Monday,
- 0:40Speaker 2: November twenty fourth. It's inspired by the meeting between Mayor
- 0:44Speaker 2: Alec Zoran Mundanni and the forty fifth and forty seventh
- 0:48Speaker 2: President of the United States of America, Donald J.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Trump.
- 0:51Speaker 2: If you haven't heard on this past Friday, Zoran Mundanni
- 0:54Speaker 2: and Donald J.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Trump had a meeting at the White House. Okay. According
- 0:56Speaker 1: to statements and reporting, they discussed.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Affordability, the cost of living crisis, public safety, economic security,
- 1:04Speaker 2: and federal local cooperations or on express that even with
- 1:08Speaker 2: deep ideological differences there has to be a practical working
- 1:12Speaker 2: relationship between the federal government in New York City.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Let's listen to someone. What was said.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Are you a.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Format that you think Trump is a fascist? I've spoken
- 1:22Speaker 3: about that.
- 1:24Speaker 1: All kay.
- 1:25Speaker 4: It's easier, It's easier than explaining a pedal.
- 1:29Speaker 1: But would you.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Feel comfortable living in New York City under a mondags?
- 1:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, especially after the meeting.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Absolutely, we agree, and a lot more than I would
- 1:38Speaker 2: have thought.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I am really looking forward to delivering for New Yorkers
- 1:42Speaker 3: in partnership with the President on the affordability agenda.
- 1:45Speaker 1: So we're going to help him.
- 1:46Speaker 2: But I really think there's a chance to do a
- 1:48Speaker 2: great job.
- 1:49Speaker 1: I'll be cheering for him. Didn't mention anything about America.
- 1:52Speaker 4: I think he is going to surprise some conservative people
- 1:55Speaker 4: extra and some very liberal people.
- 1:57Speaker 2: I think I met with a very I met with
- 1:59Speaker 2: a man who's a very rational person. So well, they're
- 2:03Speaker 2: being very cordial to each other, very nice to each other.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. And anyone who thought there
- 2:09Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be a working relationship between New York City
- 2:12Speaker 2: and the federal government doesn't understand politics. But the reason
- 2:14Speaker 2: I have gathered us here today is because I don't
- 2:16Speaker 2: want to hear any politicians call each other extreme names
- 2:20Speaker 2: like fascist, communists, authoritarian, wanna be dictator. None of that
- 2:26Speaker 2: kind of rhetoric can come from politicians anymore. It's all
- 2:30Speaker 2: dead because don't none of y'all really believe it.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Okay.
- 2:33Speaker 2: And if you call someone that and then turn around
- 2:35Speaker 2: and say, but I'm willing to work with them.
- 2:37Speaker 1: It looks very hypocritical. Okay.
- 2:39Speaker 2: Leave that type of commentary for the pundits, all right,
- 2:42Speaker 2: like myself for the social media YouTube commentator crowd. And
- 2:47Speaker 2: y'all go do your jobs, okay, Go govern Go be diplomatic,
- 2:50Speaker 2: go do the politics thing, all right. That rhetoric is
- 2:52Speaker 2: irresponsible in this climate, all right, Both parties rile people up.
- 2:57Speaker 1: You know.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Have we the people mad at each other in the street,
- 3:00Speaker 2: fighting online? Some folks literally commit acts of violence against
- 3:05Speaker 2: their political opposition. Meanwhile the politicians are out here working
- 3:09Speaker 2: with each other. Okay, do we not remember some of
- 3:12Speaker 2: the things Trump and one Donnie said about each other.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Let's listen. It's going to be hard for me as
- 3:17Speaker 1: the president to give.
- 3:18Speaker 2: A lot of money to New York because if you
- 3:22Speaker 2: have a communist running New York.
- 3:24Speaker 1: All you're doing is wasting the money you're sending there.
- 3:27Speaker 4: We have one because New Yorkers have stood up for
- 3:30Speaker 4: a city they can afford, where the mayor will use
- 3:34Speaker 4: their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism. This guy is
- 3:38Speaker 4: a communist at the highest level, and he wants to
- 3:41Speaker 4: destroy New York.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I will not be intimidated by this president.
- 3:44Speaker 4: I will not be intimidated by anyone because my job
- 3:46Speaker 4: here is to start the people of this lot.
- 3:48Speaker 1: This communist from New York. Someday gets elected. I can't
- 3:51Speaker 1: believe that's happening. That's a terrible thing for our country.
- 3:53Speaker 1: By the way, so hear.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Me, President Trump, when I say this, to get to
- 3:59Speaker 4: any of us, you will have to.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Get through all of us. Blah blah blah.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I saw political theater, okay, and it's they responsible because
- 4:07Speaker 2: they got us out here choosing side gang gang on
- 4:10Speaker 2: each other.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Meanwhile they working together.
- 4:12Speaker 2: How are you gonna be mad at a person because
- 4:14Speaker 2: of who they voted for, who they supported politically, But
- 4:16Speaker 2: then watch the people you support be willing to work
- 4:19Speaker 2: with them. I know some of y'all out there saying,
- 4:21Speaker 2: but they politicians, they have to work together. Yes, they do,
- 4:24Speaker 2: and they should, but stop with the extreme rhetoric like
- 4:27Speaker 2: fascism and communism.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Zoran Wundannie was on NBC News yesterday and he said
- 4:33Speaker 2: he still believes Donald Trump's a fascist, but he's willing
- 4:35Speaker 2: to work with him.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Let's listen. In that press conference with President Trump, a
- 4:40Speaker 1: reporter asked you whether you believe that President Trump is
- 4:43Speaker 1: in fact a fascist, word that you've used in the past.
- 4:47Speaker 1: You're about to answer. Then President Trump sort of jumped
- 4:50Speaker 1: in and he said, quote, that's okay. You can just
- 4:52Speaker 1: say yes. It's easier than explaining it. So, mister mayrilect,
- 4:57Speaker 1: just to be very clear, do you think that President
- 5:00Speaker 1: Trump is a fascist?
- 5:01Speaker 3: And after President Trump said that, I said, yes, and
- 5:03Speaker 3: so you do. And that's something that I've said in
- 5:05Speaker 3: the past I say today. And I think what I
- 5:07Speaker 3: appreciated about the conversation that I had with the President
- 5:11Speaker 3: was that we were not shy about the places of
- 5:13Speaker 3: disagreement about the politics that has brought us to this moment,
- 5:16Speaker 3: and we also wanted to focus on what it could
- 5:18Speaker 3: look like to deliver on a shared analysis of an
- 5:20Speaker 3: affordability crisis for New Yorkers.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Listen in America.
- 5:23Speaker 2: My name is Leonard mclvey, commonly known as Charlamagne of God,
- 5:26Speaker 2: and I believe words matter. Now, I'm not the highest
- 5:28Speaker 2: grade of weed in the dispensary, but based on everything
- 5:30Speaker 2: I know about fascism, if someone truly believes a political
- 5:34Speaker 2: figure as a fascist, then the idea of working with
- 5:36Speaker 2: them is contradictory.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Fascism isn't a normal political disagreement, all right. Disagreeing on
- 5:41Speaker 2: tax rates is a normal political disagreement. Economic issues, environmental concerns,
- 5:46Speaker 2: those are normal political disagreements.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Fascism is not. Okay.
- 5:50Speaker 2: When you call them one a fascists, you are accusing
- 5:52Speaker 2: them of being fundamentally anti democratic, authoritarian and willing to
- 5:56Speaker 2: use the power of the state to crush opposition.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:58Speaker 2: If you believe someone is fascian the historically and morally,
- 6:01Speaker 2: you resist them or use institutions, law and coalitions to
- 6:05Speaker 2: contain them. Okay, limit their power, You organize against them,
- 6:08Speaker 2: litigate against them, but you don't collaborate, because collaboration with
- 6:11Speaker 2: a fascist regime, even on small issues, legitimizes it. So
- 6:15Speaker 2: if Zorn truly believes Trump is a fascist and working
- 6:18Speaker 2: with him makes zero sense, but this is my issue.
- 6:22Speaker 2: He doesn't fully believe Trump is a fascist, just like
- 6:24Speaker 2: Trump doesn't fully believe when Donnie is a communist.
- 6:27Speaker 1: It's all political theater.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of things Trump has done
- 6:30Speaker 2: and it's said that look like fascism and authoritarian strategy
- 6:33Speaker 2: to me. But I feel like that's the media's job
- 6:36Speaker 2: to call it out. Okay, Politicians clearly can't do that
- 6:39Speaker 2: because the words don't match the actions. And that's when
- 6:41Speaker 2: you just look like a dishonest politician who says whatever
- 6:44Speaker 2: to get elected.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Because once again, if.
- 6:46Speaker 2: You think someone is a fascist, but you believe you
- 6:49Speaker 2: can work with them, that's what a question of hypocrisy
- 6:52Speaker 2: becomes unavoidable. Okay, listen to me. I know I have
- 6:55Speaker 2: a listen all right, So you don't take me serious.
- 6:57Speaker 2: But you can't call someone a fascist and treat them
- 7:00Speaker 2: like a normal political partner.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Those two positions contradict each other.
- 7:05Speaker 2: So the real question for Trump, Okay, Mundani, A real
- 7:08Speaker 2: question for Trump and Mundannie.
- 7:09Speaker 1: You know these are what should be asked to them.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Hey, Trump, were you exaggerating when you called Mundania a communists?
- 7:16Speaker 2: Hey Zoran, were you exaggerating when you called Trump a
- 7:18Speaker 2: fascists are Zoran? Are you now minimizing fascism by agreeing
- 7:22Speaker 2: to work with Trump?
- 7:23Speaker 1: Or Trump?
- 7:23Speaker 2: Are you minimizing communism by agreeing to work with Zorn.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Here's the answer to all these questions. It's politics as usual.
- 7:29Speaker 2: And I'm sick of politicians doing this because once again,
- 7:32Speaker 2: you know who it hurts the most.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Us.
- 7:34Speaker 2: You done told your aunt and three of your cousins
- 7:37Speaker 2: f you you not invited to Thanksgiving this year because
- 7:40Speaker 2: of who they supported politically. Meanwhile, the people we supported
- 7:43Speaker 2: politically are willing to support each other. If Zoran and
- 7:47Speaker 2: Trump can be in the White House smiling at each
- 7:48Speaker 2: other and excessively touching on each other, then you and
- 7:51Speaker 2: your family can enjoy Thanksgiving Thanksgiving dinner together.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Okay, listen to all elected officials.
- 7:57Speaker 2: If you call somebody a fascist or communists, but then
- 7:59Speaker 2: sit down and work with them like everything is normal,
- 8:02Speaker 2: you make those words meaningless, all right.
- 8:04Speaker 1: It's dangerous to do that. It's dangerous to weaken those terms,
- 8:07Speaker 1: and it confuses the public alight.
- 8:09Speaker 2: When you call someone a fascist or communists, it's supposed
- 8:12Speaker 2: to mean something serious.
- 8:14Speaker 1: You talking Hitler, Mussolini, and.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Politicians are using these terms for emotional leverage, not accuracy.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And the danger in that, the danger in that people,
- 8:24Speaker 2: the public becomes numb to real authoritarian threats. Please give
- 8:31Speaker 2: every politician who has done this, because it's not just
- 8:33Speaker 2: when Donnie and Trump, it's all of them, the biggest
- 8:36Speaker 2: he hull.
- 8:40Speaker 1: All right, Yes, indeed, thank you for that dog key today. Yes,