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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, you've probably seen a couple of these already,
- 0:02Speaker 1: so you know what's coming. The twenty twenty three Ohio
- 0:05Speaker 1: State versus Notre Dame defensive breakdown what the Buckeyes did
- 0:08Speaker 1: to limit Notre Dame.
- 0:10Speaker 2: It's going to be a.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Sort of similar offense. Swap out Sam Hartman and ACC
- 0:14Speaker 1: quarterback transfer for Riley Leonard, a different ACC quarterback transfer,
- 0:19Speaker 1: but the Notre Dame offense broadly similar, running a similar
- 0:23Speaker 1: offense this year to what they did last year. So
- 0:25Speaker 1: gonna get the Ohio State breakdown of the jym Noles
- 0:27Speaker 1: defense how they defended the Irish in twenty twenty three
- 0:31Speaker 1: in that dramatic win in South Bend. Here's the Ross
- 0:34Speaker 1: Fulton Ohio State schematic breakdown for the defense against Notre
- 0:38Speaker 1: Dame in twenty twenty three. Earlier in the week, we
- 0:41Speaker 1: talked to our buddy Ross Fulton about Ohio State struggles
- 0:44Speaker 1: in short yardage head there's some bad news in that
- 0:47Speaker 1: show for Ohio State. Ended on a high note. Today
- 0:50Speaker 1: we're going to talking about the Ohio State defense. So
- 0:51Speaker 1: this is going to be a mostly good news show.
- 0:54Speaker 1: What a change of pace that is from a year ago.
- 0:56Speaker 1: And we're gonna be talking to Ross about six different
- 0:59Speaker 1: plays here, of different things to talk about. And one
- 1:02Speaker 1: of the reasons I love talking to Ross about this
- 1:03Speaker 1: stuff is he'll look at plays and he'll send me
- 1:07Speaker 1: a description and just you know, hey, the first one
- 1:08Speaker 1: is J T. Wrong Arming and spilling to Davis Andgunosen
- 1:11Speaker 1: and this is something he views as a J T.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Twoey moloel play. And then when you watch the broadcast,
- 1:17Speaker 1: no one mentions j T. Twey Moloo. No One, the
- 1:19Speaker 1: replay doesn't show JT. Molo doing anything. It's all a
- 1:22Speaker 1: Davis and agunos in play. So Ross, let's start with
- 1:25Speaker 1: this one. Tell us about the J T. Twoey moloell
- 1:28Speaker 1: play that completely escaped notice at the time.
- 1:31Speaker 3: You know, I got to give a shout out to
- 1:33Speaker 3: Devin Radcliffe give me a hard time about my office
- 1:36Speaker 3: being a mess yesterday I started to clean up my
- 1:38Speaker 3: pad there. It so the I wanted to focus here
- 1:44Speaker 3: on sort of some of the good and the bad
- 1:46Speaker 3: of the Ohio State run defense, and I think there
- 1:49Speaker 3: has been some focus on that. I mean, on the
- 1:51Speaker 3: one hand, you know, Notre Dame did have some success
- 1:54Speaker 3: on the ground they played keep away, you know, I
- 1:57Speaker 3: think I heard a stat that like Notre Dame had
- 2:01Speaker 3: something like eight runs go for seventy some yards, and
- 2:03Speaker 3: then the other twenty though went for only seventy yards too,
- 2:07Speaker 3: So there was some good, there's some bad. I his
- 2:09Speaker 3: first one is definitely the good. Notre Dame ran a
- 2:14Speaker 3: lot to the boundary, which we've talked about a lot
- 2:17Speaker 3: with the offense. The Notre Dame just like wore out
- 2:19Speaker 3: running to the short side of the field, which it
- 2:21Speaker 3: makes sense against you how to say defense when you
- 2:23Speaker 3: think about it, because Jim Mile sets his defense to
- 2:28Speaker 3: the field. He doesn't set it by formation, so most
- 2:30Speaker 3: of the time you're going to get that overhang Nickel
- 2:33Speaker 3: Sunny styles or the same adjuster Josh Proctor to the field.
- 2:38Speaker 3: And so you know, here's but when Notre Dame was
- 2:41Speaker 3: in eleven personnel or twelve when they had one back,
- 2:45Speaker 3: Ohio State was pretty successful in run defense. So here
- 2:49Speaker 3: you know what I wanted to focus on with Jttmlow
- 2:52Speaker 3: was really good all game handling split blocks bowlers. He
- 2:57Speaker 3: would wrong arm or dent that to use a Greg
- 3:01Speaker 3: Madison turn to spill the football, and when Ohio State
- 3:05Speaker 3: had someone there to spill the football too.
- 3:08Speaker 2: It worked well.
- 3:09Speaker 3: So here you have you know, JT the wrong arms,
- 3:12Speaker 3: he forces the football outside and Davidson Ignos is there
- 3:15Speaker 3: for the tackle. I think that, you know, I appreciate
- 3:18Speaker 3: uh igman Nosen is a very physical corner. It's been
- 3:22Speaker 3: a while so the Hia State's prirently had a corner
- 3:24Speaker 3: they really like to tackle in the run game like
- 3:27Speaker 3: he does. So, you know, I also wanted to note that.
- 3:31Speaker 3: But there's an example of you know, I think there
- 3:33Speaker 3: has been quite a bit of talk about, you know,
- 3:36Speaker 3: potential issues of the high to state run game. You know,
- 3:39Speaker 3: the PFF grades for the Ohio State linebackers.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Are very poor.
- 3:43Speaker 3: I thought, kind of ridiculously so to be honest, but
- 3:46Speaker 3: I think that there was a lot of instances where
- 3:49Speaker 3: Ohio State handled the Notre Dame run game well.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And these are two guys who stand out.
- 3:55Speaker 3: We're going to talk about a couple more, but you know,
- 3:57Speaker 3: that gets into then the next where I want to
- 4:00Speaker 3: show how where Ohisate did have.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Some struggles against the Notre Dame run game.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Yeah, if they couldn't run the ball with one back,
- 4:07Speaker 1: two backs must be twice as good. And that actually
- 4:10Speaker 1: was kind of true. For long stretches on Saturday night.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So let's let's take a look at this two bac
- 4:16Speaker 1: iso play.
- 4:17Speaker 3: This is the area where a High State really did
- 4:19Speaker 3: have some struggles was handling two backs. And my guess
- 4:23Speaker 3: is that this is a new wrinkle that Notre Dame showed.
- 4:26Speaker 3: I don't know if they had any film of them
- 4:28Speaker 3: using twenty one personnel. You know, tight end with two
- 4:31Speaker 3: backs and using that one back is essentially a fullback
- 4:34Speaker 3: to lead block So you know, when you're inserting a
- 4:37Speaker 3: fullback or a lead blocker, that changes the run fits
- 4:41Speaker 3: for the defense, right, you're creating essentially another extra gap
- 4:44Speaker 3: between where that blocker is inserting himself.
- 4:49Speaker 2: And you know, High State.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Had struggles and particularly like on this play, it's a
- 4:54Speaker 3: lead drawl or an isolation play, kind of old school.
- 4:57Speaker 2: You don't see it a lot that much anymore.
- 4:59Speaker 3: And they also issues with the gap scheme, and part
- 5:02Speaker 3: of it was just, you know, Jim Knowles took a
- 5:06Speaker 3: lot of criticism last year for being too you know,
- 5:11Speaker 3: playing two aggressively and giving up explosive play, and he
- 5:15Speaker 3: talked earlier this season about how you know, he had
- 5:19Speaker 3: learned from that he was not looking to do that
- 5:23Speaker 3: this year, and like that showed in this game, right,
- 5:24Speaker 3: Like Notre Dame came into it and had quite a
- 5:27Speaker 3: few explosive pass plays and they really did not in
- 5:31Speaker 3: this game or High State limited them. I think they
- 5:33Speaker 3: had maybe three passes over twenty yards and like two
- 5:37Speaker 3: of those were on one or two of those were
- 5:39Speaker 3: screen passes. Then he you know, he hit the tight
- 5:42Speaker 3: end a couple of times, so you're they didn't kind
- 5:46Speaker 3: of have a bend but don't break. And but part
- 5:48Speaker 3: of that was, you know, they were not over committed
- 5:51Speaker 3: to the run games. So like I'm going to give
- 5:53Speaker 3: a couple of examples like where they did did commit
- 5:56Speaker 3: more numbers and the difference it made. But like on
- 5:58Speaker 3: this play, like they're just doubt to me, Like you know,
- 6:00Speaker 3: they have an extra gap Tommy Iikiberg takes on the
- 6:03Speaker 3: lead blocker in the hole, and basically, though you need
- 6:05Speaker 3: someone there to handle that, you have to speak and
- 6:10Speaker 3: so it's just as how long is it going to
- 6:13Speaker 3: take them to come down the lot, you know, come
- 6:15Speaker 3: down and make play as opposed to essentially bring an
- 6:18Speaker 3: eighth defender in the box to account for the fact
- 6:20Speaker 3: that you now have you know, seven blockers in the game.
- 6:25Speaker 1: All right, So now we're going to go to another one.
- 6:27Speaker 1: This is another raw special where the TV is talking
- 6:30Speaker 1: all about Mike Hale and the replay is focused on
- 6:32Speaker 1: Mike Hall and Ross says Procter and Hole making tackle.
- 6:35Speaker 1: So okay, why is this a Josh Brocter play and
- 6:38Speaker 1: not a Mike Hole play?
- 6:39Speaker 3: So this is kind of what I'm what I'm trying
- 6:41Speaker 3: to drive out again, right, So, like, you know, there's
- 6:43Speaker 3: been a lot of talk after the game of you know,
- 6:46Speaker 3: Ohio States got worn down, like that's kind of a
- 6:50Speaker 3: classic football trip, right, Like as they got worn down
- 6:52Speaker 3: up front, or like linebackers got tired and didn't fill
- 6:55Speaker 3: the proper gaps. And I'm not saying some of that
- 6:57Speaker 3: didn't happen, but like a lot of what did happen,
- 7:01Speaker 3: as I've said, is like noted in at times created
- 7:04Speaker 3: more gaps in the run game that Ohio State wanted
- 7:07Speaker 3: to defend. They essentially, as I said, made the choice
- 7:12Speaker 3: to trade off giving up a little bit more in
- 7:14Speaker 3: the run game to defend against big pass plays. And
- 7:18Speaker 3: like conversely on this play where they didn't do that,
- 7:21Speaker 3: you can see the difference in So again you got
- 7:24Speaker 3: it two backs here, we've got two tight ends effectively
- 7:28Speaker 3: and we got but on the flip side, this is
- 7:31Speaker 3: one of those situations where you've got sunny styles essentially
- 7:33Speaker 3: SAM linebacker on the edge. You have Josh Crocter as
- 7:37Speaker 3: essentially a fourth to th toe to oer playing the
- 7:39Speaker 3: sea gap as a SAM linebacker. So you saw some
- 7:43Speaker 3: of that during the game, and he was pretty effective
- 7:45Speaker 3: doing it right.
- 7:46Speaker 4: And so now the difference is.
- 7:47Speaker 3: You do have every gap cover Like, yes, Mike Paul
- 7:49Speaker 3: makes a swim move, he makes some nice play in
- 7:52Speaker 3: the backfield, but even without that, again, same situation, like
- 7:56Speaker 3: you've got you got Eikenberg taking on a lead blocker
- 7:59Speaker 3: with his outside shoulder. And but now the difference is
- 8:03Speaker 3: you have a safety sitting there that can make the
- 8:06Speaker 3: tackle on the gap book so it does go beyond
- 8:09Speaker 3: just like they were tired. Again, like defensively, you can't
- 8:13Speaker 3: always do it all right like they are in fact
- 8:16Speaker 3: playing a good team. So you sometimes have this I
- 8:19Speaker 3: don't know if it's in Ohio state specific phenomenon. Maybe
- 8:21Speaker 3: it happens with other teams where it's like before the game,
- 8:24Speaker 3: you know there's lots of national media, there's other people
- 8:27Speaker 3: picking not on him to win, and then after the game,
- 8:29Speaker 3: it's like, well, why wasn't you know Tommy Ikenburn perfect
- 8:33Speaker 3: filling every gap play?
- 8:34Speaker 2: Why was he getting locked up by Joel?
- 8:36Speaker 3: You know, it's like when you play other good teams,
- 8:38Speaker 3: like you're not going to be perfect, like they are
- 8:41Speaker 3: going to beat you at times, but like it does
- 8:42Speaker 3: sometimes come down to just how many numbers and you know,
- 8:46Speaker 3: I just you can see that like Knowles could have
- 8:49Speaker 3: made alternative choices, like to play after this, he goes
- 8:52Speaker 3: back to playing Tampa two and Notreame gets a big
- 8:55Speaker 3: run play, So like maybe that wasn't the right call there,
- 8:57Speaker 3: but like his goal clearly was to focus on keeping
- 9:02Speaker 3: Sam Hartman off balance. Like they mixed in man. He
- 9:05Speaker 3: mixed in a lot of zone. He played some soft
- 9:07Speaker 3: zone like and he did catch him off balance, like
- 9:10Speaker 3: Notre Dame kept going to run Mesh on third and
- 9:12Speaker 3: fourth and short, and like Ohio State, which is a
- 9:15Speaker 3: man beater in a high state, would drop into his
- 9:17Speaker 3: own so hard. You know, the counterfacture, like what would
- 9:19Speaker 3: have happened if Ohio State played you know, snap after
- 9:22Speaker 3: snap against Notre Dame like this with eight guys in
- 9:24Speaker 3: the box and single high and like dairy to throw
- 9:27Speaker 3: play after play. You know, maybe you get a few
- 9:30Speaker 3: more stops, maybe you give up some expensive plays.
- 9:32Speaker 2: It's sort of a trade off.
- 9:34Speaker 3: But there there were scheme reasons why they had some
- 9:38Speaker 3: issues against the Notre Dame run game to the boundary,
- 9:40Speaker 3: particularly from two back.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Well let's go next to a play where, ohouse, it
- 9:45Speaker 1: had no issue stopping the run. This is this is
- 9:49Speaker 1: one you're definitely going to Everyone is going to remember
- 9:51Speaker 1: this one. I think some of this stuff earlier was
- 9:54Speaker 1: a little bit you know, maybe maybe not something that
- 9:56Speaker 1: jumped out to everyone.
- 9:57Speaker 4: This is what everyone's gonna remember.
- 9:58Speaker 1: JT. Twee Molowell getting in the backfield stopping Sam Hartman
- 10:01Speaker 1: for a big loss on that last Notre Dame drive.
- 10:04Speaker 4: This is one of the biggest plays of the game.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know, again this is sort of
- 10:10Speaker 3: the culmination of part of this. You know, I grab
- 10:13Speaker 3: this because there's again a lot of focus on the
- 10:17Speaker 3: defensive ends, and like it's all the focus is always
- 10:20Speaker 3: about sacks or lack their up and particularly in a
- 10:24Speaker 3: game like this, I mean, they their principal job for
- 10:29Speaker 3: most of it is playing the front and J T.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Tumlows is again an excellent run defender. You see they
- 10:35Speaker 3: come for here, so you know, the same the same
- 10:38Speaker 3: thing at flies, like they Notre Dame runs a two
- 10:41Speaker 3: back power here, which is an issue play they've been
- 10:43Speaker 3: having trouble with all game. But he's so forceful and
- 10:46Speaker 3: wrong arming and taking on the pulling guard that essentially
- 10:51Speaker 3: forces Sam Hartman to keep the ball. And I mean
- 10:54Speaker 3: he would have made the play on the running back.
- 10:55Speaker 3: He would have made the play on the quarterback. So
- 10:58Speaker 3: you know, there was a stat out there to I
- 11:00Speaker 3: saw about Ohio State's adjusted pressure raiate and you know,
- 11:03Speaker 3: so it's one of the best in the nation. And
- 11:05Speaker 3: you know, so maybe there is some you know, how
- 11:08Speaker 3: much pressure the defensive ends are getting or one thing,
- 11:11Speaker 3: but like you can't sacrifice playing the run to do
- 11:15Speaker 3: it either. So you know, we talked about that the
- 11:17Speaker 3: other week with Jym Knowles, and like some of the
- 11:19Speaker 3: techniques that they use to force the football outside and
- 11:22Speaker 3: so again, like anything else, like they have a multifaceted job,
- 11:26Speaker 3: so it has to be taken into context. But but yes,
- 11:29Speaker 3: this to me is the play that obviously changed the
- 11:31Speaker 3: game because they had to finally force Notre dame behind
- 11:35Speaker 3: the sticks, all.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Right, And something we've talked about a bunch in the
- 11:39Speaker 1: past and in the context of the Ohio State defense
- 11:41Speaker 1: is sim pressures, and you know they need to be
- 11:43Speaker 1: running more sim pressures. Next up is a play where
- 11:46Speaker 1: they do that, and Tyler Williams darn near has what
- 11:50Speaker 1: could have been one of the great large gentleman interception
- 11:53Speaker 1: returns of all time and just missed it, but it
- 11:56Speaker 1: still worked out as a worked out pretty well for
- 11:58Speaker 1: Ohio States.
- 11:59Speaker 4: So ross us do this one.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Yeah, you knew after all that we've talked about the
- 12:02Speaker 3: directors that couldn't help him grab mine, and so this
- 12:06Speaker 3: is the first time we've seen this from Noles, right.
- 12:08Speaker 3: So it's like a double B gap pressure from the linebackers.
- 12:11Speaker 3: But a lot of times he's done that in prop
- 12:13Speaker 3: the defensive ends as rats. So it is cover zero
- 12:16Speaker 3: with two like quote unquote rats, which just means they're
- 12:19Speaker 3: sort of underneath defenders watching the quarterbacks eye. But here
- 12:22Speaker 3: he does with the defensive tackle, which obviously works out
- 12:26Speaker 3: really ivantages. I'm assuming Stam Hartman, you know, he's seen
- 12:30Speaker 3: the same tape and assumed that the it would be
- 12:32Speaker 3: a defensive ends dropping and so he looks immediately to
- 12:36Speaker 3: the middle of the field with Tyler Williams is sitting.
- 12:37Speaker 3: But I you know, I think bigger picture again, like
- 12:40Speaker 3: we've been sort of saying, like the defense continues to develop, right,
- 12:43Speaker 3: and like this is another sign of it. And you know,
- 12:46Speaker 3: I think there's an argument in this game, and we'll
- 12:49Speaker 3: talk about this with the next play that maybe at
- 12:51Speaker 3: times they almost almost went to the other extreme and
- 12:53Speaker 3: got a little too bend but don't break.
- 12:55Speaker 2: You know, It's it's hard to find the right balance.
- 12:58Speaker 3: I think, keeping to mix in pressures like this, particularly
- 13:02Speaker 3: if you don't feel like your front force creating pressure
- 13:05Speaker 3: is a nice way to get some pressure.
- 13:08Speaker 2: You know, there was, It's just it's a different there.
- 13:11Speaker 3: You're seeing more zone coverages out of them, They're matching
- 13:14Speaker 3: more cover three. There's some hiccups I think in their
- 13:17Speaker 3: zone coverages, which is maybe why they continue to like
- 13:20Speaker 3: to use man when they run these kind of four
- 13:24Speaker 3: man pressures. But I do think you're seeing like continued
- 13:28Speaker 3: growth and sort of like you know, when people were
- 13:30Speaker 3: talking about like, oh, what's the difference between year one
- 13:31Speaker 3: and year two, and like you're obviously from Jim Knowles's perspective.
- 13:36Speaker 3: He thought that they could only handle so much last year,
- 13:39Speaker 3: and now with the more experienced group, you're seeing more
- 13:41Speaker 3: and more volume of scheme being introduced.
- 13:44Speaker 1: All right, and then finally this is something Ohio Sedate
- 13:47Speaker 1: fans probably pulled their hair out a little bit on
- 13:50Speaker 1: another one of.
- 13:50Speaker 4: These passes to the tight end just kind of up the.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Same And this was a big you know, this was
- 13:55Speaker 1: a third and ten conversion for Notre Dame. It feels
- 13:58Speaker 1: like you saw I think filiphants had but seven catches
- 14:02Speaker 1: something like that. It felt like every single one of
- 14:03Speaker 1: them was a big first down. I don't know if
- 14:05Speaker 1: that was actually right, but it sure felt like it
- 14:07Speaker 1: at times on Saturday night. So what what was Notre
- 14:10Speaker 1: Dame doing here? That found a weak spot and you
- 14:12Speaker 1: has to do?
- 14:13Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I guess this ghost and what we're
- 14:15Speaker 3: sort of talking about is sort of the opposite side
- 14:16Speaker 3: of it, right. So guess, on the one hand, I
- 14:19Speaker 3: agree with your assessment like that the tight end definitely
- 14:22Speaker 3: made some big break. I guess, like, you know, if
- 14:25Speaker 3: you gave Jim Nole's trucer, I bet you would probably
- 14:28Speaker 3: be like, well, you know, a couple of explosive plays
- 14:31Speaker 3: we give up or to the tight end for twenty yards,
- 14:33Speaker 3: Like that's not that bad of a trade off. But
- 14:36Speaker 3: this one, you know, this one hurt because it's third
- 14:40Speaker 3: and ten in this situation, and like this this is
- 14:42Speaker 3: the drive that leads not there name go ahead score,
- 14:45Speaker 3: I believe one of their two scores.
- 14:47Speaker 2: And you know, this is your chance to get off
- 14:49Speaker 2: the field.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Right. So like when you're talking about Benbitt, don't break
- 14:51Speaker 3: like you get them behind the chains. This sort of
- 14:55Speaker 3: goes to the development of the defense. And like what
- 14:57Speaker 3: we've seen in Caventine st we're talking about the impress. Sure,
- 15:00Speaker 3: this is cover two and you know, as I said,
- 15:04Speaker 3: so like in cover three, they're matching some now. So
- 15:06Speaker 3: like you saw that on a third and three Hartman
- 15:11Speaker 3: threw a little hook route and Proctor was guarding that
- 15:15Speaker 3: man and broke it up. But it was a really
- 15:16Speaker 3: nice play, and that's because he was you know, he
- 15:18Speaker 3: was matching that route.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Cover two. You're not seeing it so much.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Right, And so like at a minimum, Cody Simon's in
- 15:24Speaker 3: here at will linebacker, so you know a little bit
- 15:27Speaker 3: of probably you know, you give him a little bit
- 15:30Speaker 3: of slack.
- 15:31Speaker 2: He hasn't played a ton.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Noel's run him in for like a series each in
- 15:34Speaker 3: the first and second half first Steel Chambers and I
- 15:37Speaker 3: don't know if that was because of chambers performance the
- 15:40Speaker 3: run or because you know, Cody Simon is a good
- 15:43Speaker 3: run defender, so they wanted to change it up. But
- 15:46Speaker 3: you got to at least get your hands on Titan.
- 15:49Speaker 2: I'd like to see them re.
- 15:50Speaker 3: Route and carry that route down the field. Like against
- 15:53Speaker 3: Cover two, you shouldn't allow this route to be completed.
- 15:56Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Notre Dame allowed the same route
- 15:58Speaker 3: to be completed to a mecca of Buka of the
- 16:00Speaker 3: one yard line, so you know, it's not like out
- 16:03Speaker 3: of the question, but like you do have to disrupt
- 16:06Speaker 3: this route some much. So I do think that there's
- 16:09Speaker 3: still growth to be had in terms of, you know,
- 16:13Speaker 3: matching some of these routes in zone and sort of
- 16:15Speaker 3: again mixing up the pressure schemes.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Like again this is Covered two. Be nice if they
- 16:20Speaker 2: you know.
- 16:22Speaker 3: That it wouldn't just be the one stim pressure that
- 16:24Speaker 3: we'd have to show like that, There'd be other ones
- 16:26Speaker 3: that they could perhaps use in this situation where you
- 16:29Speaker 3: could use it with the zone. So maybe that's still
- 16:32Speaker 3: to come. But you know, I think obviously these are
- 16:35Speaker 3: big steps for it. I think, you know, Notre Dame
- 16:38Speaker 3: or Ohio States strategy made quite a bit of sense,
- 16:42Speaker 3: particularly if, like you know, if I stated at a
- 16:45Speaker 3: couple of breaks like that we've talked about on offense,
- 16:47Speaker 3: you know, whether they convert some of the short yardages
- 16:49Speaker 3: we talked about, or Buka catches that ball in the
- 16:52Speaker 3: end zone and they you know, obviously kind of builds
- 16:55Speaker 3: the lead that they could never quite get to even
- 16:57Speaker 3: though they kept moving the football. Then like strategy have
- 17:00Speaker 3: really foreseen it or name to sort of string together
- 17:03Speaker 3: these small yardages really made more sense. But even as
- 17:07Speaker 3: it is, obviously it kept o high state in the
- 17:09Speaker 3: game when they're weren't converting offensively, and so you know,
- 17:13Speaker 3: there's trade offs everything, but I think they still need
- 17:16Speaker 3: to calibrate that middle.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Ground a little bit more.
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- 17:39Speaker 4: Sometimes that means there's even a replay. You can look
- 17:41Speaker 4: at it from a different angle.
- 17:42Speaker 1: So if you want to watch this, you can just
- 17:44Speaker 1: find it on our YouTube channel dot com slash bucke Huddle.
- 17:47Speaker 1: And if you're thinking I wish I didn't have to
- 17:48Speaker 1: wait so long for the next raw show, well, friends,
- 17:51Speaker 1: we post these as soon as they're done. We typically
- 17:53Speaker 1: record these a day or maybe more than a day early.
- 17:57Speaker 4: When we do. When we record them early, I try.
- 17:59Speaker 1: And get them editor early and getting posted early, just
- 18:01Speaker 1: exclusively for our members at buckey huddle dot com. And
- 18:04Speaker 1: not only do you get to watch it early, you
- 18:05Speaker 1: also get to ask ross questions there and the thread
- 18:08Speaker 1: on our huddle board. So if you were interested in
- 18:10Speaker 1: watching these a little early and maybe getting a little
- 18:12Speaker 1: bit of you know, hey, I have a follow up
- 18:15Speaker 1: question and I keep talking into my phone or yelling
- 18:17Speaker 1: at YouTube and it doesn't nothing's happening. Well, check us
- 18:20Speaker 1: out on the huddle board at buckey huddle dot com.
- 18:22Speaker 1: RUSS will answer your questions there, one with some of
- 18:24Speaker 1: our other scheme.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Guys.
- 18:26Speaker 1: He mentioned Devin off the beginning of the show, but
- 18:29Speaker 1: we'll get Justin and Mikey, a whole team full of x's,
- 18:32Speaker 1: and those guys.
- 18:33Speaker 4: All at Buckeye Huddle dot com.
- 18:34Speaker 1: So if you like listening to this, you like reading
- 18:36Speaker 1: about this, well that would be the place to do it.
- 18:38Speaker 4: That will do it for today. Thank you guys all
- 18:40Speaker 4: for joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.