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Get laced up. Let's go!
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It's time for Banter with the Boys.
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Yo, yo, yo, welcome back to Banter with the Boys.
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Gridiron updates.
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Championship weekend.
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Yes, I'm still going to rock the Vikings flag.
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No, they are not playing in the championship this weekend.
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No, but we're done morning and we've moved on.
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Now we're at acceptance.
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Yeah, it was a morning episode for us last episode.
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But we're back, so.
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Whatever. Rob, thanks for being back again, of course.
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Thank you. It feels good to be back, you know.
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It's that crunch time right now.
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Just we had a little couple of fun little games this week.
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A little weather played into it.
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A couple of classics.
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For sure.
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It was good.
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It's going to be fun to talk about.
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Yeah, some great action.
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You went crazy with the, what did you say?
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The all 22.
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I was all 22 Rob this week.
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I went hardcore.
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If he comes out with some crazy stuff and we don't know, you know.
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Yeah, I got a couple notes.
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Rachel, welcome back.
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Probably the best looking one on the show.
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Woo, wow.
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Thanks. Appreciate it.
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I know, because I'm here.
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It's going to be my throwback.
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That's got to be why.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Nice throwback for our Spotify listeners.
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She's rocking the Dion jersey.
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Prime time.
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Prime time. Prime time.
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Had to.
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And then, of course, to my left here, we got Dom back for another week.
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What's up?
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Hey, it's good to be back.
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Great games this weekend.
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And yeah.
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Yeah, except for our vikes.
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But that's unfortunate, but it's part of it.
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We're moving on.
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Acceptance, like I said, we're acceptance.
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Yep, yep.
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Acceptance.
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With that, Kev, let's head right, not waste any time and just head right into our divisional round recaps.
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And the first game, Houston traveling to Kansas City, always a tough place to play in Arrowhead, which you know what?
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I just found out a funny story really quick about Arrowhead today.
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Okay.
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From a meta reel.
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Well, excuse you.
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I run the show here, but I'm going to cut you off on your takes.
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Now.
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Now.
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Oh, sorry.
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No, like the owner of the Chiefs back in, I don't know, whenever the heck they built Arrowhead in the 70s or something.
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Gotcha.
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He built like a three story living space inside.
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I guess that's like super rare.
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Like no other stadium has really done that other than like the Astrodome had one too.
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And like the jail in Philly.
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Yeah, right.
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Normal stuff.
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I thought it was cool.
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I was like, that'd be, you know, if you own the team and you just live at the house you built, you know what I mean?
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That's cool.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Old school thought process, you know?
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Yeah.
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But anyway, anyway, Chiefs getting the dub, moving on.
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Big dub.
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Big, big dub.
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Moving on.
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I mean, Elephant in the room.
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People are complaining about the refs.
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I didn't see a ton.
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I mean, there's a couple calls, right?
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There were.
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There were.
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Only one big call really comes to mind is the ref in the past or when he didn't even get hit by them and they hit each other.
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But at the same time, you got to look at the ref's point of view where he's seeing it at the angle that it looks like.
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It looks like Patrick Mahomes getting killed.
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For sure.
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For sure.
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But I'm just more speaking on like everybody like, oh, it's the Chiefs and the refs against the league.
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Like, I mean, there was moments throughout the season, but then like I saw some J Jedis questionable PIs throughout the season.
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I've seen some other questionable things.
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I'm just like, nah, I think it's, you know what I mean?
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I just kind of want to shut that down.
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You know, people are freaking out about the refs that they won this game and it's like, nah, truly, truly they did not.
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I mean, that's, I guess, the really interesting one. You watch all 22, you get no commentary.
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So it's just like straight, just the data.
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Right.
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So you don't get like, oh, I don't know if there was questionable.
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I saw, you know, you don't get like a second opinion.
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So you just form your own opinion.
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And yes.
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So what's your opinion on that part then, watching the all 22 yesterday?
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Well, it's just more than like the the roughing the past or the first one.
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I mean, Will Smith has got to put the hands in the chest.
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What? Too high.
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You like, you know that that one's legit.
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The first one's legit.
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And then the second one, I'm like, well, that's back to me.
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Like we need to get rid of sliding out of the dang league.
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You become a runner punts, you get past the line of scrimmage or have some kind of like two step rule
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where it's obviously defined that you're sliding way before the defender even has a chance to take your head off.
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Because that play was a little iffy.
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But in general, I thought the game, but even after that play that they called that, that was a first down play.
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They still went down 60 yards and scored a tutty right after that.
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So they still were dominant.
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You know, so like I thought the Chiefs played an excellent game.
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They did. And they were down like offensively, they were dominant.
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But more more for me, like defensively, they were dominant, like their third down pressure,
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even like the couple fourth down pressures they brought.
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I mean, just ridiculous.
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But I can't just say defense.
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And I mean, better than what I was expecting.
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Like I thought, you know, the Texans were going to be able to handle that a little bit.
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But I mean, that D line was just punishing them.
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Yeah. Patty Holmes looked good with Kelsey.
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Look good. Rachel, do you get to see much of Mr.
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Kelsey, you know, going for a buck 17 on a in a tuddy of seven catches?
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I saw that. I saw him make some great catches.
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Typical. Yes, he did.
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And he came through when they needed him.
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What do you what do you make of the Mahomes touchdown as he's falling forward?
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Like just I can't imagine how difficult that is.
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He put it right on the money.
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I don't know how he does this stuff.
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It's it's just magic. I don't know.
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He just the people are waiting for him to make play.
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He just does. It doesn't.
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It's not even pretty, but I'm like that had to be hard.
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It had to be hurt. It had to hurt to when he fell down.
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I don't know. But I'm sure.
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I'm sure. But what you said, like magic, like magic.
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So Holmes has that magic, you know, and he played great.
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There's one more play that really frustrates me about Mahomes that he that he pulled off.
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He was running to the sidelines.
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Oh, he kind of pulled up a little bit and then got shoved in the back and then flopped.
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Call it just call it a better move. That's just like that's what I can.
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I know. I know. It's just it's in the playoffs.
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It's in the playoffs. So I'm trying to get it.
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I'm glad it wasn't called because it's the play.
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I know. Come on. No, but I was the only my only it's a beef with Mahomes that game.
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Otherwise, like I mean, he plays outstanding.
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He's something special.
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Literally. I saw Kelsey.
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Like I said, he was really just having a day every time he was just wide open,
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finding the open seam in the zone and things like that.
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And Chris Jones had a great day getting in there.
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Game changer. Game changer.
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Literally. That's why he gets paid what he does.
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He does. Literally. So and yeah.
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I mean, that was the biggest thing I saw on film was he just is just dropped in the running game.
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And Nick Bolton, smart linebacker really play also going to be a free agent this year.
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So that's an interesting thought.
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And then also on the back side, because also I'm trying to think of the match up with the Bills.
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Trent McDuffie, he plays sticky D. Yes, he does.
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He was all over Nikko Collins.
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I mean, Collins ended up with five for eighty one.
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But he was on his hip all game long.
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So that's going to be really interesting match up moving on forward.
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And the Texans, their kicker failed them.
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CJ Stroudo, he's a beast.
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I mean, when you get to watch the all 20s, it's a whole different angle.
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You get to see he's just looking at his reads and his anticipation throws.
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Or it's like it's there. It is so there.
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It just it just sucks for CJ that Kansas City defense was just so hungry and they were getting home so many times.
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They were. He took a couple of big sacks.
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Eight of them in total. And they were in crucial moments.
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You know, at least five of them were on crucial moments.
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You know, at least three of them were on big third downs.
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You know, you just you can't have it. We saw it with Samuel.
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You know what I mean? So that's that's my only squabble with with CJ that I had notes here.
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But maybe nobody was open, right? Sometimes there's just nothing there.
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And if you got guys like McDuffie playing that sticky, then there's just nothing home.
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Nothing available to you. I mean, the Texans had a chance.
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Ever since that that last touchdown that the Chiefs had, they had three possessions.
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Right. So and they were with the final score.
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That game was twenty three. Yeah, exactly.
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I mean, I feel like the Texans play they have good games and games where they're just not that great.
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It just is kind of one of those games for them.
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So do you think that maybe they do not have to change up a ton heading into next season?
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It's more about like just being consistent.
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I mean, I think they need to clean up.
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They got that like mentally they do have some penalties.
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I think they could mature a little bit in that regard.
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Chris Boyd. I also think they had injury.
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Right. They obviously have injuries on the wide receiver.
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I mean, think those are just he's just you know, he's obviously going to be around for a while.
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And he's fun to watch.
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Even if he doesn't have his regular weapons, it's just next man up.
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And I think that that was impressive from their season.
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Sure. And opinion.
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And he does he did came out and say we were in mentions later.
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Not a big deal, not really news, but he did come out and say that he wants digs back, you know,
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so if he can come back, he's a free agent.
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Yep. And they can figure that out.
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You know, that's another option for that.
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I mean, they're good. I mean, I look at him mixing to he's still a star.
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Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
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Like if he is all hard and then one other last one, I kind of I think was I trying to oh,
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that the right tackle Fisher just kept showing over and over the tape like you suck.
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The right tackle for Texans.
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He was just getting aid alive all night long.
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So anyway, they had lined up Chris Jones on him to appear on clay just to work him.
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So real quick, Xavier Worthy, do you feel he is starting to become more of like that gadget player?
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Almost it feels like they're starting to use him in all sorts of different ways and just try to get the ball in his hands.
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Yeah, definitely. I feel like, yeah, they're trying to become like a new version of Debo,
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but not, you know, because Debo's definitely a lot bigger frame, you know what I mean?
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But yeah, guys, speed version, a player boom bust.
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Definitely all the all the fixings that you got with Xavier Worthy for sure.
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So he's definitely give him a couple more seasons.
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Get him in the offense. Let Andy Reid do his thing.
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Mesh them. Put them in there.
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And yeah, you're going to get a little Tyra Kill Debo Samuel situation.
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I feel like a hundred percent. Right. Right.
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You got Debo and Hill on him like a mix.
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Yeah, a mix right in the middle.
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I think the frames will slide it more on Worthy than either of those two.
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Oh, for sure. He is right now.
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Yeah. Wait, you know, this is rookie season.
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OK. You know, he's putting 20 pounds on or what?
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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And keep that speed. If you're about it in an NFL offseason.
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Oh, yeah. These dudes live in the.
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You're kicking in.
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Luchowski and Patty Mahomes in the offseason. OK. Some dude.
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Not all, but some dude.
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But yeah, yeah. For me.
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And then one thing at the end of the game that that threw me off
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and maybe it happens more often than I than I see.
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But just interesting to see the team losing to take the knee to end the game.
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Like, I know it's not madden out here, you know, and there's nothing you can do.
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Like, even if you score, it's over. CJ Strahd was.
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You know, he did. I didn't even think he was coming back in the game.
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Yeah, he that was that was up a few times.
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That was just like a professionalism at that point.
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I feel like him coming out, taking that knee.
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I understand where you're coming from.
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But I just like it threw me off. Wait a minute.
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Yeah, like bowing down.
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Yeah. Oh, they're done. Yeah.
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But like, again, like there's nothing you can do to possibly win that game at that moment.
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Anyway, but it is.
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The score again, 23, 23, 14.
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You could definitely see not having Tankdale, though, is crucial.
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Yeah, they were missing receiver. That's what I can say.
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That's my my my point on the game is definitely no Tankdale.
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It's tough. Will he come back?
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I mean, that she had a couple and just wasn't.
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Yeah, I don't remember ACL or where he's he's out.
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He's out the whole next season.
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For the next season. It was really good.
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It was really that's a lot.
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So if Diggs can come back and they can resign him, that would be an option.
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All right. Or who else is going receiver?
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I know the draft is going to be available again.
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And then the draft. So was Diggs Achilles or ACL?
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Diggs was a ACL.
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OK. Yeah. Feelings are hurt.
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Yeah. Anyway, with that, Kansas City get in the win.
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Twenty three, fourteen over the Houston Texans moving on to the AFC Championship game.
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Of course, before we find out who they are playing,
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we got to talk about one of these NFC games. Switch it up.
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You know, number six, Washington traveling to the number one ranked Detroit Lions.
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The Roars been D'Angelo, my guy.
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I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, man.
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And actually in the in the picks, he said Lions by far quote, because I put it in there.
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So it's rough.
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Luckily, he's Ohio State fan and they won last night.
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Congratulations. But yeah.
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Yeah. So Washington getting the way to Lions fan, that'll be more important.
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No, no, that's bogus. However, I am curious.
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His feelings on Jared Goff, how he feels about Goff going forward,
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because Goff straight up didn't show up. He didn't show his best.
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Oh, yeah. Three picks. That's three turnovers right there.
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That pretty much the one at the end, like you're going down.
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You're going down. You're trying to, you know, yeah.
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But the other two were bad.
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They weren't even good. Like that was before they almost cook his head off.
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Yeah. You know, when he threw the pick six.
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Yeah, the pick six. Oh, boy.
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That was a questionable no call. That was a questionable no call.
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100 percent. He was not right after that.
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But that first pick, like where he was, I think the first one is where he had
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Laporte low wide open and he decides to try to force it to Reynolds or something.
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It was and he just sales it straight over.
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I mean, sitting right there.
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That's again, similar to Samuel not to keep bringing up the Vikings into this.
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But guess what? We're all Skoll Skoll fans.
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So that's what it is. It's going to happen.
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Let's go to the bowl. Yeah. Yeah.
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Twenty five or twenty six, whatever. Twenty five, twenty six season.
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Oh, boy. And then before we die, we said static.
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You're going to score north.
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Yeah. Purple Daily. Purple Daily.
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Shout out. Yeah. Purple Daily.
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Darn. Now I totally blanked on where I was going with that.
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But anyway, it was a fun game.
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I mean, thirty one twenty one at half.
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I mean, what other gave me up and down the field?
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You know, I mean, God played.
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Yeah, he had those picks. There was a couple of bad ones.
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I just thought that at the end of the day, just watching it,
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it was just the Lions defense line.
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They just had nothing left.
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And with that spread offense, I was really impressed.
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The Clif Kingsbury's offense is how unique that Austin Eckler
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it was a threat.
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You throw a little Robinson on it.
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Showed his own. I know how they use them.
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They run a lot of two back sets with them, both in the off field.
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They do a little cross and had a great, you know, RPO.
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And the Lions had no pressure up the middle.
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And Daniel sat in the pocket.
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I picked him player of the game, is Jayden.
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And when he gets out of the pocket, he's dangerous to like
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his versatility is insane.
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Like his his down his big play downfield ability
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with his arm is nuts because he's fairly accurate.
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Literally, he's a great deep and then he can and then he can
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get out of the pocket and make plays with his legs to him.
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I mean, it's just he's like the whole package right now.
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Yeah, literally.
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He's right in the middle like Patchmore Holmes, Lamar Jackson for me.
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It's like a perfect game.
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Yeah, I mean, you couldn't play better.
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They played outstanding.
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I mean, you know, no turnovers.
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Thirty three minutes at time possession and your defense
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did what you need him to do.
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And they created turnovers.
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Right. They created and they stopped to our Gibbs.
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I mean, oh, yeah. Well, they kind of.
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I mean, he wasn't like, you know, having a what did he call it
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when he played us for touchdowns?
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Oh, yeah. There's a name for it.
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Whatever. I had to bring that up.
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Those are the clear parts.
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We don't know what they need to bring it up Rachel.
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No, but you mentioned the four takeaways.
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They scored 21 points on those four takeaways.
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I mean, that's a big swing right there.
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That's the game right there.
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Yeah, that's I mean, that's a good point in the difference.
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But yeah, that picks six that was kind of the Momo changer.
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And then they had to follow it up with that interception in the end zone.
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The James Williams was definitely the Momo killer.
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I feel like that's a heartbreaking play.
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Well, that too, that was the that that point for me.
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I'm like, why are you running a reverse trick play down 10 on the 46?
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And they didn't they didn't. What are you doing?
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You're only down 10. You're not down 20 with seven minutes.
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You're down 10.
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And Lions fans are like, well, because we're Ben Jones now,
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because Ben Johnson's already on the schedule.
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So like, no, I'm like, he's just trying to be creative.
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I get it. But like, that's I don't think that's the time for that.
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That's not the time.
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Jameson's got to throw it out of bounds to run the ball.
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He's got to be smarter on that plane versus an option route with that.
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True corner sticky on him at that point.
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Yeah. But he also the Detroit also on that fourth and two in the red zone.
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Twelve men on the field.
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Yeah. Automatic first down.
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They went and punched it in that put him up by 10, I think, at that point.
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Mistakes. You know, that was that was kind of the end of the game right there.
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So, yeah, I mean, that's all I really got to say about that game for us.
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Yeah. I mean, the golf second pick,
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how he was in the end zone, you know what I mean?
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And he got undercut.
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Excuse me. Excuse me.
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Sorry. That was Jameson Williams getting undercut.
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Like, I feel like that's half on Williams, like, especially if he's looking back for the ball.
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Yeah. If that's not coming, you know, with some heat on it, you got to come back.
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You got a little bit literally at least challenge that.
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And he just did it at all. So like I still blame golf a little bit for that.
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You know, put put some more mustard on that thing.
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But I don't know. I think that's a little bit on Williams and his,
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you know, still young, young player yet still learning.
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But for me, Gibbs was still outstanding for the Lions.
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I mean, 14 carries on 105 yards.
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I mean, very Saquon Barkley-esque, you know, when he when he gets a hole and he hits it fast like that.
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I mean, he he could be gone.
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Like he has breakaway speed.
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You know, it's different compared to like not the Vikes again, but AP when we were growing up.
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AP, he I mean, he somehow had breakaway speed too.
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But like he was bigger boned and sometimes you get caught every now and then.
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But like these guys are just they're just gone.
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They find a hole and they're gone.
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They're fun to watch.
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I mean, you cannot you just don't see that all the time, right?
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We don't have running back like that.
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Again, I had to bring that up, but we need help.
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Back to running back is being important.
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Very important. Yeah.
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So how do you sorry, were you about to say something else?
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I was just going to say the commanders are fun to watch.
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I've been watching them all season do this.
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This is not new, but I'm like, wow, they just they don't care.
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Right. Right.
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No, they are the plan.
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The Lions fans were like so sad.
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I'm like, I feel you. I've been.
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I know. I know all too well.
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We look like that the week before.
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And the week before.
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And the week before.
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I thought for sure the Super Bowl will go through the NFC North.
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So I'm a little a lot for sure, too.
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A little sad about that for for us.
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It's been a long time, man.
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We got to represent this ridiculous out here.
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I hear you. I agree with you.
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Washington's super awesome.
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Detroit real quick.
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Unless you have anything to add to them, too, before we move on.
18:50
But Detroit, Dan Campbell came out and said that their Super Bowl window is still open.
18:54
They're losing Ben Johnson.
18:56
There's a good chance they're going to lose Aaron Glenn, too.
18:58
I don't think they're losing Aaron.
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In some way.
18:59
Yeah, I think Glenn stays.
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You think he'll stay?
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I think he's interviewing in the Jets this week.
19:04
But do you want the Jets job?
19:05
The Jets are interviewing everyone.
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Did you get an interview?
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I did.
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I cut that.
19:12
I can't tell that.
19:13
Yeah, I can't say that.
19:14
Kevin Campbell interviewed Josh McGown.
19:17
They've interviewed everybody, but they're like convinced they came out.
19:20
We personally think something came out and was like the Jets are going to not let Aaron
19:23
Glenn leave the building.
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They're going to not.
19:25
They're going to hire a bag after the Super Bowl.
19:28
Can we can we move that back?
19:29
Like, I don't like the distraction.
19:31
I don't know.
19:32
Ben Johnson, my offensive coordinator, flying all over the country.
19:36
The game, you know, during the week that we're about to play.
19:39
I think you make a great point.
19:40
Like, I don't know.
19:41
So if anyone feels different, speak your mind.
19:44
No, no, I think so, too.
19:45
Like after the Super Bowl have like a weird like two weeks silly season where coaches
19:51
are just like all over the country doing crazy.
19:54
You know, and you know, or during the Super Bowl.
19:56
I get there's two weeks.
19:57
And I mean, if your team's done, though, how do you feel about that, though?
19:59
If your team's done or is it like now that's not fair to the coaches still coaching that
20:03
are qualified for a head coaching gig that now may not get that opportunity because the
20:07
jobs are filled.
20:09
If they can't interview them till a certain date, I guess that they're just cheating.
20:13
And I suppose I don't know.
20:18
I also never going to rule matter.
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Right now.
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No, for sure.
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So I don't know.
20:23
It just it gives a weird vibe when I like when Ben's getting hired today.
20:27
That's into the news.
20:28
But like it's just now that I'm like, how focused was he?
20:32
Right.
20:33
I didn't think he called a bad game or anything.
20:34
I don't think so either.
20:35
I think just bad execution was poor.
20:38
I would agree with that.
20:40
And outside of Gibbs.
20:42
OK.
20:43
I mean, I'm under I went off to but yeah, he did his thing.
20:46
But Teddy Bridgewater won for one three yards.
20:48
Literally.
20:49
I was very confused and score the touchdown and it was a touchdown on right when he got
20:54
in the play to the trick play.
20:57
Yeah.
20:58
Well, and I'm watching with no broadcast.
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I'm like, who's playing quarterback?
21:02
And I was like, are they running some kind of wildcat?
21:06
And then I look and then like, oh, wait, I don't even think it's how much.
21:09
Well, when I saw the pass, I was like, that's definitely not wildcat.
21:13
And then I was like, I had a look at my own Bridgewater.
21:15
That's who it was.
21:16
They just won a high school championship as a head coach first year.
21:18
Congratulations.
21:19
Pass 20, 25, 20, 24, 25.
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So he's had a good year.
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Yes, sir.
21:25
Yes, sir.
21:26
Moving right along.
21:27
Our other NFC matchup, who will see the commanders and then MC championship game, the Philadelphia
21:33
Eagles beating the Rams at home 28 22.
21:37
But this one got really tight, really quick.
21:41
Yeah.
21:42
I mean, for a minute it looked like, you know, the Eagles kind of had it locked up after
21:47
Saquon busted that what?
21:49
78 yarder.
21:50
Oh, smack in his helmet.
21:52
I was getting amped, dude.
21:53
That was more towards the end or third quarter though.
21:56
When the snow came.
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For sure.
21:58
For sure.
21:59
No, it was definitely in the snow.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
22:02
No, that's when he, I think it was, let's see, I did put it down with 436 left in the
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game.
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That's when he hit that 78 yarder.
22:06
Yeah, that was just, that was just outstanding.
22:09
I thought it was, I thought it was over though.
22:10
For sure.
22:11
Like I didn't think the Rams like I stopped the mo mo was Rob's mo mo change.
22:16
The mo mo was no mo.
22:17
You know, I thought the mo mo was just completely gone.
22:20
At that point I was like, Rams are dead in the water when they go down and score and
22:24
then still get another opportunity to go down.
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They did.
22:27
Just don't sleep on Matty stat.
22:29
No, no doubt.
22:30
Even in that snow.
22:31
The last time he played here in the playoffs with the Lions, they had the same snow.
22:36
It's like his, you know, to his nightmare, like every time he's there, it's a bunch
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of snow for real.
22:44
I loved it.
22:45
It was a classic snow game.
22:46
It looked cool.
22:47
It looked cool.
22:48
That second half going back and forth like that.
22:50
I mean, it just, you know, with the snow, obviously became much more of a running game
22:54
and you see, you know, fumbled by Matt Stafford, fumbled by Kyron Williams, you know, too huge
22:58
to massive fumble.
23:02
They were banging that ball out of those running backs hands.
23:03
They were just forcing it.
23:05
Once that snow came, they were all about strip sacks.
23:07
And then were they both second half fumbles?
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Yes.
23:09
Yes.
23:10
You know, like those are the kind of like little game changer, Momo changer.
23:13
Kyron Williams was early in the fourth quarter and then Stafford fumbled with like, I can't
23:18
remember.
23:19
It was, it was after that even.
23:20
So it was sometime in the fourth quarter as well.
23:22
They were both in the fourth.
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Yeah.
23:24
I feel like that's some weird clock management.
23:26
Dude, they could have ended it and they just, well, I mean, maybe the snow though.
23:29
Maybe that was, that was a fact.
23:30
They did like a play action rollout that I know Hearst took a weird sack and it was like,
23:35
Sirianni, what are you doing?
23:37
What are we doing?
23:38
And how much like sacks have been such like, yes, we know by definition a sack is a drive
23:43
killer.
23:44
We know that, but this playoffs in general, we've seen so many sacks just kill so many
23:48
offenses and this game was just full of it too on both sides.
23:51
It was fun to watch Jared versus insane.
23:55
That dude's crazy.
23:56
That defense is crazy.
23:58
You know, I think if Stafford says he's got some left in the tank, run it back, I guess.
24:03
Keep running until he can't run no more.
24:04
Unless he's going to end up in purple.
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No.
24:08
No, I don't see that.
24:11
Thank you.
24:12
It was a fun game.
24:13
Stafford threw for 329 or 24 Williams.
24:16
Like, so they moved the ball up and down the court.
24:19
Even after the snow, it was kind of fun.
24:21
Those two fumbles were huge.
24:23
We got to talk about Barkley at 26 on the 205.
24:26
Two long runs, 78 yarder and then that one in the first quarter.
24:33
But that's what he's been doing that all year.
24:36
It's awesome.
24:37
And then on the defense aside, the Eagles, I mean that front, four, five, ten, whatever
24:43
they're doing.
24:44
Jalen Carter.
24:45
Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis are going to be, they're a big issue.
24:50
I've been on that for like the last two or three years when I started drafting those
24:53
cats all out of Georgia.
24:54
I'm like, this is a problem.
24:55
And if, what's his name?
24:59
Kobe.
25:00
Dean?
25:01
Yeah.
25:02
Kobe Deans, the linebacker?
25:03
You know, if he would have been healthy too.
25:04
I know.
25:05
I was just looking at the injury.
25:06
This defense could still be way better than that.
25:08
That's concerning for the future.
25:10
And Grahams out too.
25:11
Brandon Grahams out too.
25:12
So like Jake Elliott too, huge for Philly.
25:15
I mean, being able to make those big kicks with the slippery field of the snow, you see
25:19
how they're like, they're wiping it off the spot form and then they give you that instant
25:24
replay where they zoom in really tight on it.
25:26
And you see his foot, you know, just at the craziest angle and like one small slip and
25:31
he's, you know, he's probably missing that kid.
25:33
You know what I mean?
25:34
So, I mean, coming up clutch down the line, I mean, big factors to why they won for me.
25:40
But these NFC games were really good.
25:43
I thought those were the best games of the weekend.
25:46
And maybe I'm just an NFC snob, but they were more complicated.
25:50
Well, you look like one.
25:52
No, but now I would agree with you.
25:56
I think they were way super competitive games, competitive else too.
26:01
You know, there's competitive else in there.
26:02
But yeah, well, don't worry.
26:05
We'll talk about the commanders versus Philly coming up here at the end for sure.
26:08
You got anything to add from your all 22 notes?
26:12
No, no, I mean, it was just a fun game.
26:14
It was just, it was back and forth.
26:16
Just a phone full of numbers.
26:17
I got a little amp all year round.
26:20
Two fumbles.
26:21
Three, 50%.
26:22
Some key moments in there, you know.
26:26
Kibbey writing off.
26:28
Just do my thing over here.
26:29
I know you always are.
26:31
The Lions men, they came back from a lot of injuries and turned into having a really great
26:36
season.
26:37
And I kind of forgot how good they were.
26:39
I was in denial, but they're good.
26:42
They gave them a run for their money.
26:43
They can take some moral victories this season.
26:45
They get some moral victories this season.
26:47
For sure.
26:49
Let's head right into our final game.
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Baltimore at Buffalo.
26:54
Baltimore taking the L 25-27.
26:57
I'm sorry, Jake.
27:00
That's a tough, that's a tough L. I feel like Ravens fans are 50-50.
27:06
There's a lot of them blaming Mark Anders.
27:09
Jake is in the side that is not necessarily blaming Mark Anders.
27:12
I was asking him about it.
27:13
You got him there.
27:14
I like what the coach said.
27:15
Yeah, for sure.
27:16
It just sucks that he had that late fumble and then not catching the two point.
27:21
However, Jake sent me a video today of multiple two point conversions from the Ravens in 2021
27:30
and then another one in 2022.
27:31
Oh, you went archiving?
27:32
Oh yeah.
27:33
I love it.
27:34
It is the exact same play that they ran on that two point conversion.
27:38
They've been running for years.
27:39
To the tight end, you know, quarterback rolling to his right to the tight end on the little
27:43
drag or whatever.
27:44
So why not give it to Derrick Henry, right?
27:47
That's the question.
27:48
We don't know the answer.
27:50
I mean, arguably Anders was open.
27:52
Yeah, he was wide.
27:53
But in a slippery game, it's tough.
27:56
Cold fingers.
27:57
The two point conversion.
27:58
The Marshawn Lynch style.
28:00
Not as close as Marshawn Lynch.
28:03
King Henry, right?
28:04
Why don't you give the beast the ball?
28:06
Feed the monster.
28:08
I mean, that's a great point, Rachel, on that aspect of like, why don't you give the guy
28:12
that got you there.
28:13
He didn't have a bad day.
28:14
No.
28:15
You know, Derrick Henry.
28:16
He didn't have a bad day.
28:17
It was a slower day.
28:19
You know?
28:20
Well, for Derrick Henry standards, but if anybody's grabbing 84 yards, yeah, that's
28:24
pretty solid.
28:25
No, yeah, he had a solid.
28:27
I mean, I'm giving all the front seven of the Bills all the credit.
28:29
They pretty much slowed the Ravens rushing game.
28:33
The ninth guy was the game changer between all of them.
28:36
Yeah, forcing turnovers left and right, too.
28:39
They definitely were making Lamar Jackson make some plays that he was not used to making.
28:46
And that's what I have done.
28:47
Just too many small mistakes for Baltimore.
28:49
Too many to overcome.
28:51
And at the end, you still had a shot at a two-point conversion.
28:53
Unfortunately, you should probably be happy you even had that opportunity.
28:57
And even if you get that, Josh Allen still had three timeouts.
29:01
Josh Allen and the Bills offense, respectfully, still had three timeouts and like a minute
29:05
33 left in the game.
29:07
There's a good chance they're getting close enough for what is it?
29:10
Tyler Bass or whatever the kicker.
29:11
To bang a field goal in.
29:12
Yeah, he was solid.
29:13
Yeah, yeah.
29:14
So, you know, but we won't ever know that.
29:16
I'm not sure why it really got that close though for the Bills fans.
29:20
I'm like, y'all gotta be sweating.
29:24
I mean, that was too stressful.
29:25
It didn't, I don't know how it got that close.
29:27
Do you guys have the answer for that?
29:29
Like it was.
29:31
Scott Lamar Jackson.
29:32
Yeah, it was a weird game and the Bills just kicked a bunch of field goals.
29:35
It really is they got down to the red zone and didn't really finish all their drives.
29:39
Jake, I was one thing I really saw the difference of this game and there was a third and five
29:45
and there was a PI call.
29:47
They kind of changed that whole drive and then the Bills went down and scored to make
29:51
it 21 10.
29:53
And then that's when the game kind of totally changed.
29:55
It was on a really bad PI.
29:59
Just a little, just a little tidbits like that.
30:00
It can really change the game even though it was still right before half, you know?
30:05
So but Baltimore came back and fought, you know, he had that likely play on the touchdown.
30:10
I mean, that was a great really played by Jackson sat in the pocket there forever.
30:14
You know, and I was PI.
30:17
Oh wow.
30:18
And I think I think we did see a lot.
30:24
I want to know what a path.
30:30
No I think we saw a lot of growth out of Lamar this year.
30:33
Everybody's you know, there's some people already out on Lamar though.
30:36
Like this dude's not ever going to win a Super Bowl.
30:37
He just keeps choking and the Ravens are convinced he will, you know, dude, it's there's crazy
30:44
internet.
30:45
So many good quarterbacks in the AFC.
30:48
It's tough.
30:49
Yeah, there's only going to be one winner.
30:51
Yeah.
30:52
Right.
30:53
Usually it's Patrick home.
30:54
So I don't know if he's not on your team, you're probably not winning right now.
30:59
Don't forget about Joe Burrow.
31:01
Well, we'll see.
31:02
He's out there.
31:03
He is, but he's has he won one?
31:05
No, not yet.
31:07
Not yet.
31:08
But we'll see.
31:09
We'll talk about Josh Allen and the Bills again here in a second is of course they go
31:12
play Kansas City again.
31:16
Third time in four years.
31:17
Yeah, it's going to be Josh Allen's ultimate rival.
31:21
I mean, there's like, no, this is, this is the, we got, we got two rival games coming
31:25
up.
31:26
It's going to be a good weekend.
31:27
It is.
31:28
Yeah.
31:29
It's going to be the
31:30
The
31:32
With that, Kev, let's head right into our news.
31:37
911, what's your emergency?
31:50
And to start off our news, I didn't look, I think this includes postseason and that's
31:55
why it's a news deal.
31:57
But Jayden Daniels breaks Andrew Locke's record of most offensive yards in a season by a rookie.
32:02
I believe that is also including playoffs.
32:04
All right, question.
32:05
Better season than CJ Stroud?
32:07
Jayden Daniels?
32:08
Definitely.
32:09
This year?
32:10
I think so.
32:11
Even if he loses this game?
32:12
Yes.
32:13
Yeah.
32:14
Yeah, it's hard to argue.
32:15
Not now.
32:16
I'm really curious to see if he has a sophomore slump next year.
32:17
I don't think he will, especially if Kingsbury is still there, which he should be.
32:20
He should be.
32:21
And they have like $70 million and salary.
32:23
They have a ton of space.
32:24
Jimmy the Vikings and commander signing free agents.
32:28
Patriots and Raiders.
32:29
Yep, Patriots got some money too.
32:31
Let's see.
32:32
Travis Kelsey breaks the tie between him and Jerry Rice for the most postseason 100 yard
32:36
performances.
32:37
Good work.
32:38
Wow.
32:39
Let's see.
32:40
Saquon is third all time in rushing yards in a season, including the postseason.
32:44
He only trails Terrell Davis, former Denver running back, who holds first and second.
32:51
And this dude, when I used to play 2K, NFL 2K, like the first NFL 2K on Dreamcast, this
33:00
dude Terrell Davis would eat me up in the Superbowl every year the Vikings and I would
33:04
lose.
33:05
So he used to piss me off.
33:06
What dude?
33:07
Terrell Davis.
33:08
Oh, okay.
33:09
Former Denver running back.
33:10
I thought you were going to go Chris Johnson with that one.
33:11
I thought it was a new person.
33:12
Who was that?
33:13
I have no idea.
33:14
That's a classic.
33:15
That's a trivia question.
33:16
Yeah, that game was like from the 99s.
33:17
That's the best.
33:18
The best football games.
33:19
I know.
33:20
Anyway, let's see.
33:21
Stroud, we mentioned that he wants digs back and Houston will see.
33:25
Because they need a receiver.
33:26
There is a potential Cooper cop exit from the Los Angeles Rams though he pretty much
33:30
came out and said, that's not my hands, which everybody kind of says that sort of stuff.
33:36
But he's been there this whole time and Puka had an outstanding catch by the way, which
33:41
we did not mention in that game towards the end to give the Rams an opportunity.
33:45
Definitely did.
33:46
But.
33:47
I like Cooper better as a one versus a two receiver.
33:50
You know what I mean?
33:51
I don't know if he compliments.
33:52
Is there anywhere that he could go and be a one right now?
33:54
Well, like Texans perfect little slot receiver.
33:57
He'd fit in nice with Collins and I mean, then if you bring back digs though, that's
34:01
where digs kind of sits.
34:02
But maybe you don't.
34:03
You go get cup, you know, but.
34:04
Yeah, I think cup.
34:05
Cup's not a number one right now?
34:08
No, Puka's the number one.
34:09
Puka's number one.
34:10
The Rams for sure.
34:11
You can just tell off Targas.
34:12
Yeah, Targas, they're looking at Puka the whole time.
34:15
So yeah, I don't see Cooper staying.
34:18
I definitely think he's.
34:19
Pittsburgh for Cooper.
34:20
Cooper.
34:21
Cooper.
34:22
Cooper.
34:23
Cooper.
34:24
There's a ton of spots.
34:25
Cooper Puka.
34:26
Yeah, anybody could probably use a Cooper.
34:28
I was trying to see.
34:29
I was looking at the receivers, though.
34:30
Who is the free agent?
34:31
Sorry, I'm side.
34:32
Cooper.
34:33
Cooper.
34:34
And.
34:35
But free agents.
34:36
I think is.
34:37
I know.
34:38
I mean, those are like.
34:39
T Higgins is probably the biggest free agent target of most teams.
34:48
Other than that, for receiver, I thought I saw one more that kind of caught my eye.
34:54
I thought there was one more too.
34:56
Well, Jamar Jason, does he have a new contract?
34:59
No, he signed.
35:00
He signed.
35:01
For one penny more than Jay Jettos.
35:02
Oh, OK.
35:03
I missed that memo.
35:04
So he could beat him.
35:05
And he did beat him this year.
35:07
Hey, Jamar Jason, a great season.
35:10
He did.
35:11
Triple crown.
35:12
Outstanding season.
35:13
Jay Jettos had a good season.
35:14
Yeah.
35:15
Let's see.
35:16
All right.
35:17
Some coaching stuff.
35:18
So Aaron Glenn, Detroit, D.C. to go interview with the Jets.
35:24
I guess I did put a note here.
35:25
What would it mean for the Lions if they lose both of their coordinators?
35:28
Is that like a problem for them or for sure?
35:31
It's a problem.
35:32
You don't think they have enough foundation that I mean, coordinators really matter, especially
35:36
scheme wise, you know, and then well, so well, Campbell's have been there what?
35:39
Three years.
35:40
Yeah.
35:41
This is the fourth.
35:42
Maybe this might have been his fourth right now.
35:44
Like, you know, so Glenn's been there since the beginning.
35:47
Johnson's been there since the beginning.
35:50
It's going to happen if you have success.
35:51
That's how that works.
35:52
Yeah.
35:53
I just don't I don't see the rapport with Goff and the thought process of what they're
35:57
both.
35:58
You know, once you build that relationship, it's different, you know, they bought into
36:01
Goff for next season.
36:02
I know they signed him, but well, who else?
36:04
I mean, I don't know.
36:07
Trade him for Stafford.
36:08
Interesting.
36:09
But yeah, I don't.
36:11
That would be the craziest thing ever.
36:14
They seriously traded them back.
36:15
But Aaron Glenda, the Jets is interesting now, I think, about all the skills set on
36:19
the defense.
36:20
That's a defense of the team.
36:22
But Saul had just had him and he's a defensive guy, too.
36:26
So Saul is not a head coach.
36:27
Yeah.
36:28
But if you use a court, if you're going to move past Aaron Rodgers era now, which it
36:31
sounds like they will be like, OK, now, now maybe it is a new spot for somebody.
36:36
I don't know.
36:37
I don't know where Rodgers is going to go either.
36:38
But where do you want Rodgers to go?
36:40
Rachel, where do you think he's going to go?
36:42
I think he's going to go to Costa Rica.
36:44
I don't know.
36:48
I'll see.
36:49
Maybe he's done.
36:50
I don't know.
36:51
I don't know where he's going to go.
36:55
I'm sure he can.
36:56
Or you know what?
36:57
I had fun watching Aaron Rodgers to get his five hundred and one touchdowns.
37:01
Oh, yeah, that was true.
37:02
I'm like, OK, you can still got it.
37:04
But that's not the that's not the team.
37:06
They got too much going on.
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I don't think Aaron Rodgers is going to want to go anywhere else.
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But I guess we'll find out.
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We will.
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We'll drag it out.
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A darkness retreat.
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Yeah.
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Let's see.
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X Bangles, D.C. Lou and Arumo.
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I think that's how you say it to the Colts to be their new D.C.
37:23
KOC, Kevin O'Connell, for those that are not in Skoll Nation, extended on a multiyear
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deal.
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We don't know details, but he is in the purple for the foreseeable future.
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That's good.
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We need a good move.
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Great move.
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We'll see Jets interim head coach, Jeff Ulbrich, hired as the Falcons new D.C., which he is
37:45
also already worked as a Falcons D.C. with Raheem Morris already in 2020, I think I saw.
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So this will be his second stint now.
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Good job, Jeff.
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Welcome back.
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Yeah.
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Good job, Jeff.
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He's a good coordinator.
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So he's a good coordinator.
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I mean, I watched the was it the Hard Knocks?
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And I mean, when they had the Jets, I mean, I liked them a lot, so he's got a lot of personality.
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Looks like he's ready to put the guys together.
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I mean, he would he the Jets were a good defense.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So going to the Falcons, I wouldn't say I would say there's probably a couple more assets
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in the Falcons compared to the Jets that he'll be able to use.
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They need to add.
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They are up and coming now for sure.
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You know, so good opportunity.
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So I mean, other all that money that are need from Kurt.
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But what did it do on him?
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He'll be gone.
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He'll be gone before March, whatever.
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Blah, blah, blah.
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So yeah, he's done or someone else going to take him in.
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Somebody else will pay for Kirk again.
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He's got the best agent ever.
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But I'm not really paid again.
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Yeah, you will get paid, but you all throw it out there.
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It's going to be pretty good on TV the other day.
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Kirk.
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Yeah.
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Oh, he would be fine as a fine.
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I don't think he was on a chiefs game.
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Was it?
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Yeah, he was on the like the little sideline desk.
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Yeah, he held his own on the desk.
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It was good.
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It looked very natural, which is really weird to how awkward I thought Kirk Cousins was when
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he first came here.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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With that, Kev, let's head into our championship weekend preview and picks.
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And we are back.
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We only have two games.
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Two days.
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We're down to two.
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Two games to preview.
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The two seated Bills traveling to the one seated chiefs.
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Obviously we know tough place to play.
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These quarterbacks head to head all time are four and four dead even.
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However, however, however, my home's a three and oh in the playoffs.
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So that Pat Magic, if you will, will it be there this week?
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I didn't look at the weather.
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Is it going to be clean?
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No snow.
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Do we know?
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I think it's going to be decent.
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It's supposed to be these here.
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I'd be thirties.
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Probably in the third.
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I don't think it's gonna be as cold as it was last week across the nation.
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What time of day did they play?
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Can they get these guys playing?
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They'll be playing the night.
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I would say the night game they're going to be.
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Looks like 31 degrees.
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Yeah.
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Five thirty.
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It'll be the evening game for sure.
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That's the prime time.
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Oh yeah.
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31 is fine as a football player.
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Oh yeah.
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They got the heaters down there.
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Those things are nice and warm.
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Your body's moving.
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So Dom.
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Yes sir.
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We're starting off you.
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Yep.
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We're starting.
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We start.
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We got to get out of the rip.
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It's time to get active.
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It's time for action.
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It's time to get active.
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What we got?
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Bills, Bills, Bills chiefs, take it away.
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Whatever you got to get out on this game just go for it.
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This is a tough one.
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This is a tough one.
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You know.
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Chiefs favored by two right now.
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For me at this point it's going to be a pick them at the end and I'm picking the Bills.
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Josh Allen for me is having an MVP season.
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He's doing all the things that you need to do right now.
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Same with Patrick Mahomes.
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He's having a good, he's having a season that you need to have to be able to get to where
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he's got to get to.
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For me Josh Allen and Cook Shakir and that offense is just rolling and that defense is
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rolling too.
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Milano is crucial.
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He's a big one.
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He's super crucial.
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When he came back that defense changed completely.
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Not to talk about the purple.
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Kind of like Cashman.
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Glue everything together.
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Milano.
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That's totally Milano in that defense.
41:18
It's just time to break that bad habit for the Bills and get past this Chiefs team.
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This is their Achilles heel.
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100% it's their Achilles heel.
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It's time to kick that Achilles heel to the side.
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They already beat him once this year correct?
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They did.
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Yes they did.
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So was it 35-10 or is it that high?
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28-10 something like that.
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I think it was.
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It was so long ago.
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It was closer than that.
41:43
I barely remember.
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But they did beat him.
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Yeah.
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They did win the Chiefs run and defeated only L this year.
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But what do we got Rachel?
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What do you think?
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Well I just want to know what the Bills got to do to win this game right?
41:56
Don't turn the ball over.
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Definitely.
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Bring your, you know the defense has got to play well.
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Josh Allen you know he's going to play well.
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And he's got that long hair.
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He's got that free spirit.
42:08
He's like the hockey player.
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The long haired free spirit.
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So that's why the Bills getting the dub.
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He's just having more fun.
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Things are easier for him.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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But things are easier for him I think right?
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Like Dom said this has got to be their chance to do it.
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I mean the Chiefs don't really make mistakes.
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And Andy Reid I mean he's just a phenomenal coach.
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So is it going to come down to coaching?
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They're both great coaches.
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Yeah they are.
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So I'm just like what's going to take?
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It's going to take a good defense though.
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I mean and I like.
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And whose defense do you think is better then?
42:42
I think the Bills do have a better defense.
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But it's hard.
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It's very.
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That's why they're both in this game.
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They're good on both sides of the ball.
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Vegas has minus two right now.
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So it's.
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I mean I want the Bills to win because I need someone new to win.
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And I want them.
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I got friends.
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I got friends in the Bills mafia.
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You know I want it for them.
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I want it for the city of Buffalo and all those players.
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And they've never won a Super Bowl.
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And it's fine.
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Let's have a new champion.
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Bills new champion for Super Bowl.
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Bills mafia for Rachel.
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There she is.
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Bills mafia.
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How many rushing touchdowns does Josh Allen get?
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Maybe one but why?
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One at least.
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Just give it to him.
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Just give it to Mr. James.
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Yeah but sometimes you need to punish.
43:36
Josh Allen is definitely a punisher.
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Punisher.
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I think he won't care as long as they get the points.
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Sure.
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Yep fair enough.
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Fair enough.
43:46
Yeah Dom you said you went Bills.
43:50
Tyler you want the fun?
43:51
I feel like you need this.
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Yeah I'll go with this.
43:55
I do need this because I went 0-4 this week.
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What?
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You know you did.
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Don't tell people that.
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Don't tell people that.
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I for real did.
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It's a good thing I host.
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You are a host of football.
44:05
I know.
44:06
I was taking chances.
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Oh no he's taking chances.
44:11
You know what we might as well not even keep track now.
44:16
Of course don't keep score.
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So what you're saying is we just skip your prediction right now.
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Can we?
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No.
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We might as well 0-4.
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Wow.
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I'm just going to go opposite of you.
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It can't get worse 0-2.
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Right right right.
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Hey that's true.
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I can't yeah.
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I can't get worse.
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Hey that's true.
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Alright focus.
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Alright.
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Two in all this week.
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There's a lot of Bills picks right now just so you guys know.
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A lot of Bills picks.
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Oh it's definitely good.
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I already knew.
44:45
I mean everybody's going to probably be shooting.
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Because everyone's picking with their heart.
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Yeah.
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I think.
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So I guess I got to go Chiefs and it's the Pat Magic for me.
44:51
There's something going on.
44:52
The first trying to be the first team to win three in a row.
44:56
History is on the line.
44:57
The Shields going to get in the way.
44:58
No I'm just kidding.
44:59
No the Chiefs will earn it you know but it's going to be this is going to be a great game.
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I'm excited for showdown number four in the playoffs against these two quarterbacks.
45:07
Exactly.
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And these two teams.
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They have that history.
45:10
It's we'll see.
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I hope like I hope Josh Allen finally gets his and the Bills can go play in a Super
45:17
Bowl in the modern era and be you know what I mean.
45:20
Exactly.
45:21
But I mean if it's Bills commanders that would be fun.
45:24
But that's what I think I got to go Chiefs here.
45:27
I've picked against the Chiefs a couple times this year and that was the mistake.
45:30
So yeah.
45:31
Unless he picked them again.
45:32
He didn't pick them against the Bills though.
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Or you pick the Bills versus the Chiefs.
45:36
I remember that game.
45:38
I did.
45:39
Yeah I did and I got that one right.
45:40
You did.
45:41
Okay what week was that?
45:42
Does anyone remember?
45:43
It would have been when they were like 8-09.
45:45
Week 10 like week 9-10.
45:48
I can't remember the exact week unfortunately.
45:50
I was like yeah.
45:52
I think Kevin's on top of it.
45:54
Yeah but so this is going to be fun fun game and you know.
45:57
Yeah that's what I thought.
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Think about it.
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I know but.
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I'm just looking at it.
46:03
I'll start with the Bills.
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How I think they're going to play this game.
46:06
Their front seven can put some pressure on their.
46:11
The wrap I think is their secondary guy.
46:13
Their safety.
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He got hurt towards the end of the last game.
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So I don't know if he's going to be fully back.
46:19
Which they need you know their secondaries.
46:21
I don't know if it's against that.
46:25
I guess a lot of like mine not mind games but a lot of like distraction the Chiefs run
46:29
on offense.
46:30
They do a lot of quick little fast things.
46:32
So it's going to be really interesting if that front seven can you know attack the Chiefs
46:37
and keep them on you know long distances.
46:40
But Patty Mahomes just he's so clever.
46:43
He makes these little plays where he thinks it's going to be a three yard sack.
46:46
He just tosses it to the tight end for two.
46:49
You know and it doesn't really show up in the stat book as something a big play.
46:53
But the next play then they just keeps it going.
46:55
He just constantly his pocket pressure is just amazing.
46:59
How he moves and navigates through it.
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It's the best in the league.
47:03
It is and I think at the end of the day the difference maker is going to be Chris Jones.
47:07
I think he's going to put enough pressure up in the middle because they're going to
47:11
run on the outsides keep you know Allen in from him running.
47:15
And the worst the best thing you can do in that scenario against a running quarterback
47:18
is pressure up the middle.
47:19
You know and that's to me the same flip-pop out against him on the Philly game.
47:24
And Jaden Daniels both of those quarterbacks.
47:26
That's their Achilles heel.
47:27
You get some pressure out the middle.
47:29
So I think that Chris Jones is going to be the difference maker on this play.
47:33
And I think the Chiefs just still have enough little weapons enough trickery.
47:36
They spread the ball around that they'll get the dub.
47:39
Chiefs.
47:40
And Arrowhead is the big difference too.
47:41
It's dude it's such a tough place to play.
47:43
That place is shaking.
47:44
It's supposed to be 31 degrees and like partly cloudy by the way.
47:47
So the only ones taking Chiefs are me, Rob, Graham, Dan and D'Angelo our sad Lions fan.
47:55
I really hope he hears that.
47:58
And then D'Angelo text me.
47:59
I can hear him from here.
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Text me when you hear this so I know you listen.
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We're crying from here.
48:02
Yeah.
48:03
Dang.
48:04
Everybody else chose Bills.
48:06
So the NFC Championship game.
48:09
This one's a little bit interesting.
48:11
This one's a little bit tougher for me.
48:12
So that's why I'm not going to start.
48:13
We're going to put it on Rachel's shoulders.
48:15
This road to the Super Bowl goes through the NFC East.
48:19
What?
48:20
Yeah I know.
48:21
I know.
48:22
Gross.
48:23
The commanders.
48:25
I mean I want them to win.
48:27
Do I think they're going to do it?
48:29
I mean I didn't pick them last time.
48:31
I mean who's picking them right?
48:33
So far Ben, Graham and Trey.
48:35
Yeah.
48:36
Are going commanders?
48:37
Going commanders.
48:38
Everybody else that's not at this table is going Eagles.
48:41
I mean is their offensive line or defensive line good enough to get to Jalen Hurts and
48:47
stop Saquon Barkley?
48:49
That is a great question.
48:51
I don't know.
48:53
I mean I'm probably going to go with the Eagles.
48:55
I mean if they prove me wrong I would be happy as a clam.
48:58
I find myself rooting for the commanders last week and I will this week.
49:02
I'll be rooting for you Jaden.
49:04
The only rookie to make the Super Bowl.
49:06
That would be dope.
49:07
I would love to see that.
49:08
I would love it.
49:10
But yeah that's who I'm picking right now.
49:12
The Eagles.
49:13
They have home field advantage.
49:15
They're nasty.
49:16
But how many times have the commanders beat the Eagles now?
49:19
One time?
49:20
Did they split the series?
49:21
They split the series.
49:22
They played against Kenny Pickett but at the same time we did get the dub.
49:25
They did get the dub.
49:28
Did they win when they were at Philly or did they win?
49:32
They won when they were at the commanders.
49:34
And Kenny Pickett.
49:35
Does that change anything for you?
49:36
You got to stick with the Eagles.
49:37
No I'm sticking with it.
49:39
I'm a Saquon fan.
49:41
He is phenomenal.
49:42
He's outstanding.
49:43
So I'm not going to be mad at that.
49:45
He's HOF.
49:46
Daniel Jones will probably be at the game again watching his boy this week.
49:49
Probably.
49:50
That's so funny.
49:51
So go Saquon.
49:52
Or he's with KOC.
49:53
Alright.
49:54
Alright.
49:55
Hopefully.
49:56
They are starting QB next year.
49:58
Starting QB.
49:59
Yeah Rob.
50:00
I'll really roll this.
50:01
Yeah roll it.
50:02
I mean this is another great match.
50:03
Divisional.
50:04
You know they've already played twice.
50:05
Like we were talking about the records.
50:06
Kenny Pickett is in the game.
50:07
They won.
50:08
Philly was pretty much dominating in the beginning of that game.
50:09
And then they just held the ball because they didn't trust Kenny to throw the ball.
50:10
You know to expand the game.
50:11
And then they were just like, oh my gosh.
50:12
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:13
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:14
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:15
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:22
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:27
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:34
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:46
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
50:53
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:05
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:12
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:24
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:31
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:43
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:50
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
51:57
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
52:02
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
52:16
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
52:28
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
52:51
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
52:58
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:03
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:12
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:22
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:29
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:40
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:50
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
53:58
They're going to be like, oh my gosh.
54:02
My home's ask stuff and you know you're not planning on that, but you know kind of what you're gonna get at this point
54:08
That the tackle being out is huge for that old line, so I just I gotta go Eagles
54:13
Dom you're your final here your offensive line defensive line are just they are
54:19
Pivotal heroes right unless on here is you see it though you see it when you're watching like those are the difference makers
54:26
But that's where you gotta have your solid foundation for winning
54:30
Mm-hmm and without that you don't have I mean sequence great
54:34
But obviously he's like all I gotta do is wait and then go there's gonna be a hundred percent
54:40
And Jalen hurts is like man. This is pretty good. I don't have to do too much
54:44
I just want to throw it every now and then but I certainly can do it. He does just enough
54:49
He doesn't look that good
54:51
Jalen I don't know after watching all 22 just watching winning this I know that that's I'm saying he doesn't
54:58
Know championship game again, but he just died just don't love him. I just don't like Daniels better like his arm
55:04
You know I know I get it. He just throws fastballs all over the place
55:08
Yeah, like out of the four quarterbacks remaining Jalen's for for you for sure
55:13
Yo, yeah for sure yeah, but they're all good. I mean I would I support her as a Vikings fan
55:18
I'd still take Jalen her so my oh yeah, dude
55:21
I would love to have Jalen
55:23
He's like he he he he
55:25
Talking about the Vikings
55:27
But just as a pure passer it just annoys me a bunch of times
55:29
I'm just like ugh
55:31
Why don't we throw the ball? Yeah, no I hear ya. Who we got Dom? All right did my homework
55:38
Thinking about it on the elliptical on the forklift. We gonna take you thinking about it all day
55:44
We've been thinking about it all day. How many times you so before you answer how many times have you switched?
55:49
I I've been on it. I've been I've been hitting the same team the whole time
55:56
I'm trying to get the rookie to the first Super Bowl ever and why not Jaden Daniels?
56:01
Why not LSU the man playing great this season?
56:05
Couple guys on defense Wagner
56:08
Bobby had a great Bobby Wagner and Armstrong those two guys got to have a great game for me to get Saquon Barkley slowing down
56:16
We're not gonna stop them. We're gonna just have to slow them down
56:19
And yes, I'm saying we until we take it so something else happens in this game
56:24
But yeah, I'm gonna ride with the commanders they they're playing on a high and hey, they're in the clouds fly high
56:30
They are they're in the house money. Yeah
56:35
Dan's been here before Dan
56:36
I mean, I know Dan Quinn's lost a big game
56:39
But it's time for I think it's time for him to show that we can get past those big moments because I got nervous
56:44
When we got to that second half against the against the Lions and they scored a touchdown
56:49
I was like, oh dang Dan Quinn about to do the same thing you did against Tom Brady
56:53
but at the same time you got
56:55
Yeah, got Cliff Kingsbury over there and he's he's a great coordinator. I like him at quarter way
57:02
That's a college offense is really the right
57:04
Yeah, it almost reminds me that we were talking about the Tennessee playbook where they almost have like two receivers on the
57:10
on the
57:12
Side line almost or when Kingsbury was with Kyler Murray
57:15
Yeah, he was he was having the same exact same success with the young mobile quarterback right now Murray's a lot shorter
57:21
It's a lot more challenge. That's right. That's right
57:23
I think Daniels is a better athlete and like a better quarterback overall
57:26
I think he just makes better he makes better selection and throws and he's like he's cool with Ron
57:31
He has 16 attempts in this game
57:32
I know it's not like what we want out of our quarterbacks
57:35
But at the same time if he's not getting blown up and he's making smart decisions take off, but they're all safe runs
57:40
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He just kind of leads himself out about yeah, you know, he's not really taking he's not taking big hits
57:47
He's not like he's not like Josh Allen where I'm about to go really run somebody over. He's like a finesse player
57:52
You know I'm saying that's why I say he's like a
57:54
Patrick Mahomes in the middle and like Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes like literally sitting that right in the middle for me
58:00
You know and yeah, I think the commanders are about to make their first little dip into this as a as the commanders into the Super Bowl
58:06
Uh, yes, first time the organization's been to the NFC Jamming ship games since 1991. Yeah, so like the heart
58:13
Yeah, so Carter and Davis doesn't bother you up the middle. I'm nervous. But again, I'm riding on the high we in the clouds
58:19
Yeah, doesn't matter. We're gonna fly pass
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Daniels is the most poised. Oh, yeah, he said they're like Aaron Glenn did against the Vikings
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I think that's he don't can that old line truly hold up to that that Eagles defense, which is playing outs
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I'll standing right now. I mean, yeah, they let it slip a little bit against the Rams, but early on they were absolutely dominant
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I mean, there's nothing I mean, yeah, so other than Higbee they couldn't handle Higbee for a minute
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He's like Higbee had a nice little end of the season. I know
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We touched animals out of four games. So
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With that, I mean we got two interesting mix. It's an interesting mix. We got four commanders picks rest or Eagles
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We got four chiefs. Nope five chiefs rest or bills. So how do we do last week other than you?
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Oh, well, that's why I was like
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Did you end up able to clip that one I can't remember the the standings
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Yeah, well, yeah, I'm not doing the overall for the season the overall will be empty right do we have any foreign ours
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Yeah, no, no foreign owes this week. There's a ton of three and ones Rachel dumb
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Trey
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Graham Tyler and Rob all went three and one
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two and twos Jake Matt
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Let's me D Angelo for the playoffs. Remember D Angelo says right there
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Lions by far. So don't forget that minus that should be a double double
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Nope oh wait. Oh, yeah, just you just can't see it all but yeah, if you look at the way bottom
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Does it go up at all? Oh, there it goes slowly. There it is lions by far right there
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And then now yeah, it's official internet
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So, let's see Dan went one and three Ben went one and three and then I went on four. So
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So, who'd you pick this week though?
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Dude, I went oh and four I went every I picked everybody that didn't win dog. I know
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Who's not gonna win this week? Come on
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So overall for the playoffs at the moment Rob is your leader at eight and two when it matters
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Trey and Rachel both at seven and three who on the I'm on your heels
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And then let's see we got a couple six and fours Jake's in there Tyler's in there Dom is in there at six and four
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Then we got our five and fives Dan Graham
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Matt whoo, and then there's a two and two D angel cuz he didn't give me his dang picks
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Cody three and three cuz he didn't give me his picked one week as well. Well, they're morning and then
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And then I think that's everybody
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Smelties at three and seven. So with that, yeah, don't forget to like comment subscribe wherever you listen to the band
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Thank you Dom. Appreciate you coming up from your hour and a half drive to be here. It's a blast every time fellas
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Of course as always Tyler you too, sir. Yeah. Yeah, here I am
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