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Mark Levin Discusses His Book "On Power" · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: Cook them on in Friends, Ruminators. Thanks very much for
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  Speaker 1: sharing time with us. We greatly appreciate it. You know
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  Speaker 1: we do. Jose running the program in Studio one A.
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  Speaker 1: I am here in Studio one B, and it is
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  Speaker 1: the Morning show with Preston Scott Show five thirty nine,
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  Speaker 1: enjoining me on the program. Where I had to read
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  Speaker 1: his entire resume, it would take the entire segment, I'll
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  Speaker 1: just simply say. Mark Levin is a radio show host.
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  Speaker 1: He is a host on Fox News of Life, Liberty
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  Speaker 1: and Levin, among many other things, and he's a very
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  Speaker 1: accomplished writer several best sellers, including the current book On Power.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Levin joins us once again, Mark, how are you good?
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  Speaker 2: How are you my friend?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing terrific. I am always fascinated by what causes
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  Speaker 1: someone to take on a topic, and in the case
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  Speaker 1: of On Power, that is a very difficult topic to
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  Speaker 1: put your arms around. First, what pushed you to do it?
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  Speaker 1: And secondly, how did you get your arms around it?
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  Speaker 2: That is a great question. My wife says the same thing,
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  Speaker 2: why do you always write books about these tough, tough topics?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, that's the way my brain works. I
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  Speaker 2: can't help it. So this topic. The reason I decided
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  Speaker 2: to write it and get my hands around it is
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  Speaker 2: because I started to really think about what I was hearing,
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  Speaker 2: what I've read over the years. You know, I've got
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  Speaker 2: a massive library my home here as I collect books,
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  Speaker 2: not collect them, but read them and then put them
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  Speaker 2: on the shelf. And I started to think, what is
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  Speaker 2: what is politics? Government, society? What's it all about? Fundamentally,
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  Speaker 2: it's about power, and power determines whether you live in
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  Speaker 2: a free society or whether you live in a tyranny.
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  Speaker 2: Power determines whether your voice is heard in a government
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  Speaker 2: or not. Power determines whether you're free speech or not.
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  Speaker 2: Power determines all of it. And then I went back
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  Speaker 2: and looked at the Revolutionary War what was that about?
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately it was about power, that is, representative government. They
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  Speaker 2: revolted against the monarchy because the monarchy did not listen
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  Speaker 2: to the voices of the people. And then I got
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  Speaker 2: to thinking, Okay, well, really, what is the basis of
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  Speaker 2: our government? We talk about these things, you know, separation
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  Speaker 2: of powers and liberty, and it goes in one ear
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  Speaker 2: and out the other for a lot of people, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's not exactly right. That's the endgame.
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  Speaker 2: But what is it about? And it's this when you
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  Speaker 2: go back and look at the founders the Revolution and
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  Speaker 2: the founders, they believed in the sovereignty of God. They
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  Speaker 2: believed in the Judeo Christian belief system. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: everyone else has to believe in it, but they did,
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  Speaker 2: and they believe God was sovereign. And when you read
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  Speaker 2: the Declaration, God is mentioned in different iterations, four different
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  Speaker 2: times in a document that is declaring why we're revolting
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  Speaker 2: and why did they do that? Well, God is the
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  Speaker 2: sovereign and his children on earth. When it comes to
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  Speaker 2: governing and the civil society, they are the sovereign. So
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  Speaker 2: we the people that we talk about, we the people
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  Speaker 2: that are mentioned in our documents, we are the sovereign.
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  Speaker 2: That is where this comes from. And then when you
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  Speaker 2: look at the Constitution, why is it written the way
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  Speaker 2: it's written? Because they took the Declaration and they said,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of government do we set up that creates
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  Speaker 2: this civil society that Locke talked about and yet respects
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  Speaker 2: the sovereignty of the individual and the community of individuals.
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  Speaker 2: And they looked at the Enlightenment and so our founding
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  Speaker 2: and our government is a fusion of this Judeo Christian
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  Speaker 2: belief system and the Enlightenment. And what did the Enlightenment
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  Speaker 2: tell them? Among other things, that told them the power
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  Speaker 2: needs to check power, power needs to check power. With
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  Speaker 2: the Enlightenment came the whole idea of Western democracy and
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  Speaker 2: so forth. So I talk about this word power, I
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  Speaker 2: break it down into a positive power and a negative power,
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  Speaker 2: and then I compare it to Marxism and Islamism. Art
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  Speaker 2: is am Americanism is the fusion of the sovereign in
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  Speaker 2: this belief system, our faith with the Enlightenment. Marxism rejects
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  Speaker 2: our faith, rejects all faith, it's just coercion. And Islamism
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  Speaker 2: is the fusion of a very radical view of Islam
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  Speaker 2: and coercion. And I go through it and break it
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  Speaker 2: down and applied to the language liberty and rights, that
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  Speaker 2: sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, carving out time, very busy schedule. Mark Levin with
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  Speaker 1: us the book on power. Mark, how did you end
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  Speaker 1: up arriving at the chapters you did and tackling the
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  Speaker 1: different iterations of power that you write of, because it's
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  Speaker 1: expressed in so many different ways, so many different levels
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  Speaker 1: of humanity, society and government in the world and in
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  Speaker 1: our history. What led you to this particular set of.
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  Speaker 2: Topics, No pression. It sounds to me like you've written
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  Speaker 2: a book or books, because this is what goes through
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  Speaker 2: your head. Actually, this is very interesting. You raise these questions. Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, you have to decide what you want
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  Speaker 2: to prioritize, and then you have to decide what you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to expand on, because you know the book
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  Speaker 2: could be a thousand pages long. And I decided in
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  Speaker 2: this book in particular, I wanted it to be very
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  Speaker 2: concise and readable and understandable, and you have to take
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  Speaker 2: on these very tough topics. And even at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the book, I say, look, I could have written
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  Speaker 2: about power and immigration, power and equality, power, this, that
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  Speaker 2: and the other. But this is really a journey of
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  Speaker 2: the mind. And so I write about power and language,
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  Speaker 2: power and rights and power and liberty. I bought off
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  Speaker 2: the what I think of the Time Office chunks and
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  Speaker 2: I explain, among other things, that liberty without rights means nothing,
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  Speaker 2: and rights without power mean nothing. And I explain in
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  Speaker 2: the book. And you look at the Stalins Constitutional in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six. It's brilliant he steals from our Bill
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  Speaker 2: of rights, it even goes beyond it. And yet the
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  Speaker 2: next year he was slaughtering the Ukrainians. He slaughter at
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  Speaker 2: about seven to eight million Ukrainians. So what is that
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  Speaker 2: all about? And what that's all about is what I
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  Speaker 2: call the the use of language and a negative language
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  Speaker 2: to support negative power. And I also explain that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: rights without power power, the people in this case mean nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And I try to compare those and explain those. And
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  Speaker 2: I also explain in the book it's not all philosophy,
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  Speaker 2: it's not all ancient history, it's not all American history.
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  Speaker 2: I bring it to today. The Democrat Party believes in
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  Speaker 2: an authoritarian democracy. And I know that sounds odd, but
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  Speaker 2: it's true, which means they basically go through the process
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  Speaker 2: of voting, and they go through the process of judging
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  Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. But they're in favor
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  Speaker 2: of centralized power. They reject the whole notion of the
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  Speaker 2: American founding that God is the sovereign and therefore the
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  Speaker 2: people of the sovereign. And so this is why they
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  Speaker 2: created this massive bureaucracy at the fourth branch of government
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  Speaker 2: that's not in the constitution. This is why they rely
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  Speaker 2: on these trial courts and judges. If they win elections, great,
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  Speaker 2: they try to make permanent changes to our system. If
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  Speaker 2: they lose elections, they turn to the permanent party government.
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  Speaker 2: So they're into what I call soft negative power. They
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  Speaker 2: are the progeny of marx I wrote a book called
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  Speaker 2: American Marxism. I don't need to get into that, and
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  Speaker 2: then I said, we we spend our battle trying to
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  Speaker 2: preserve individual liberty and the separation of power. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a completely different mindset. Our viewpoint is completely opposite of
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  Speaker 2: the view of the left, that is, the Democrats, or
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  Speaker 2: the Marxists or the Islamists, and they are absolutely incompatible.
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  Speaker 2: And I explained this is the battle of our time.
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  Speaker 2: Their ideology which seeks to twist and turn our society
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  Speaker 2: and culture inside out, and our belief system, which is
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  Speaker 2: based in our founding and our constitution.
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  Speaker 1: Mark I look at the makeup of Congress and some
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  Speaker 1: of the newer elected members of Congress that are Republicans
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  Speaker 1: that seem to have that ethos, that ideal of what
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  Speaker 1: America was founded to be really part of their personal creed.
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  Speaker 1: Are there enough conservative Republicans and are there enough citizens
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  Speaker 1: of this country that are taking ownership of the apologetic
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  Speaker 1: to advance it and to secure our future.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. When I write a book, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to those questions. I try to
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  Speaker 2: influence the outcomes. I try to I'm on a mission
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  Speaker 2: as an activist. I'm an activist first, a radio host,
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  Speaker 2: an author, and TV guy second, and so my view
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  Speaker 2: is to take these positions, push them out as much
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  Speaker 2: as I can, because I know the media will not.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I write books. Because there's tens of
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  Speaker 2: millions of us who do, in fact share these values
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  Speaker 2: in these belief systems. I want to encourage people to
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  Speaker 2: learn more about them, to expand on them, to discust
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  Speaker 2: them at the dinner table at church, at synagogue where
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  Speaker 2: they are, to have the Thomas Pains and the Paul
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  Speaker 2: Revers out there to counter what is I believe is
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  Speaker 2: this growing darkness and it's very grave of this Islamist
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  Speaker 2: Marxist ideology. I don't believe there are enough people speaking
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  Speaker 2: out about this. But again, tens of millions of us,
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  Speaker 2: we can circumvent the propaganda from the media and from
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  Speaker 2: politicians and demand of them what we want demand of
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  Speaker 2: our teachers and professors. What we want to push this out.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you're a truck driver, an electrician, a plumber, whether
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  Speaker 2: you're a surgeon or a lawyer, it doesn't matter. These
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  Speaker 2: are ideas that we share as Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Mark, thanks for writing the book and thanks for being you.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you very much.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, brother God bless take care of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Mark Levin with us this morning, and the
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  Speaker 1: book is on Power and you can get up everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to the bookstores. You can. You can
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  Speaker 1: probably find this book at at Target or Walmart for
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  Speaker 1: that matter. Okay, maybe not Target, but Barnes and Nobles
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  Speaker 1: Books a million Amazon of course, and you can you
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  Speaker 1: can order it from Simon and Schuster. Mark Levin our
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  Speaker 1: guest here on the Morning Show with Preston Scott