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The Importance of Finding Purpose with Psychic Therapist Audrey Hope · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rachel Uchitel. So have you ever wondered
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  Speaker 1: if manifestation really works, how you can use energy to
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  Speaker 1: heal trauma, how listening to your intuition can help you
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  Speaker 1: find your life's purpose? Today, I got to speak to
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  Speaker 1: Audrey Hope, a psychic therapist and addiction specialist at Seasons
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  Speaker 1: Rehab in Malibu, who has been breaking the traditional boundaries
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  Speaker 1: of therapy for over 20 years. Audrey combines spirituality, energy healing,
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  Speaker 1: and psychic abilities to help her patients and clients become
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  Speaker 1: their best selves. We discuss finding our life's purpose and
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  Speaker 1: how healing past trauma and getting to the root of
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  Speaker 1: the root can help propel you forward. We also venture
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  Speaker 1: into complexities of love addiction, the nuances of relationships, and
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  Speaker 1: the universal quest for a soulmate. How hard is it
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  Speaker 1: to find love over 40? Audrey gives us hope, pun intended,
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  Speaker 1: and she opens up about her own love story. This
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  Speaker 1: episode is perfect to get you started on your new
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  Speaker 1: path as the new year approaches. Sit back and listen
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  Speaker 1: to my interview with Audrey Hope. Audrey Hope, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much for joining me on Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful to be here, Rachel. I'm really excited. Oh, good.
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  Speaker 1: So I love that you have a Master of Divinity
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  Speaker 1: and Metaphysics, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that is... It's really soul work. It's really about...
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  Speaker 2: What I do is a new perspective, looking higher. Some
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  Speaker 2: people can call it psychic. We all love psychic stuff. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm doing this for like 25 years, working
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  Speaker 2: with celebrities and people from all walks of life. And
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  Speaker 2: it's just a really high perspective of things that people
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  Speaker 2: really want to know. Like, why is this happening? Why
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  Speaker 2: did I get into this mess? The karma, the past lives.
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  Speaker 2: It's so exciting to look at life from that higher perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I agree. So is it something you had to
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  Speaker 1: do training in?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. A lot of people I had master, master teachers,
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  Speaker 2: teachers that nobody would really know about. Like I worked
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  Speaker 2: with Gandhi's teacher, which, you know, she taught me everything
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  Speaker 2: about like. how to evolve the body, which I use
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  Speaker 2: with the addicts at seasons where I work and in
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  Speaker 2: my practice. So that's, what's been exciting things that I'm missing.
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  Speaker 2: I call it like a missing piece of the pie
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  Speaker 2: that I've been able, that's my gift to be able
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  Speaker 2: to give that little piece. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always wondered, you know, these people that get
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  Speaker 1: into psychic work, if this is something they're born with
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like powers they have, or if anyone
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  Speaker 1: can just learn this kind of technique.
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  Speaker 2: I love this question. It has to do with my passion,
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  Speaker 2: my real mission in life to really help people suffering.
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  Speaker 2: And so I had to be a one stop shop,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like if somebody came in and they lost
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  Speaker 2: their parents or they lost a loved one. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they need to talk to them. So all of this
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  Speaker 2: really developed through my passion and my desire to do
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  Speaker 2: the real thing and to be the real thing and
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  Speaker 2: to make it authentic. So, um, it just evolved through
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  Speaker 2: practice and time and having the opportunity, like the gifts,
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  Speaker 2: the universe, God gave me the opportunity. to work with
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  Speaker 2: some amazing people. And it's perfected through the years. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm like really quick. Like I was already picking up
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  Speaker 2: stuff on you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into that in a second if it's
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  Speaker 1: okay to ask questions. But I'm also curious because so
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  Speaker 1: many people have, you know, there's such a stigma that
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  Speaker 1: goes along with psychic work, right? The people believe that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't exist, whether or not that's because they are closed
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  Speaker 1: off to understanding the afterlife or different spiritual signs, or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are different reasons that people don't believe
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  Speaker 1: in it because they don't want to, it's scary, or
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  Speaker 1: they just think it's a bunch of bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So it's bullshit until they're suffering. When someone suffers,
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  Speaker 2: like I had a client who came and she lost
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  Speaker 2: her son to COVID and I work with doctors and
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  Speaker 2: people who are, you know, really psychological and in the mind.
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  Speaker 2: She came in, she was devastated. Her son was kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuck in between. He was a drug user and
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  Speaker 2: we kind of helped him pass and she believed it
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  Speaker 2: by going through it. And then when the next day
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  Speaker 2: she felt better, there's proof in the pudding right there.
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  Speaker 2: Like what you might not believe it, but the person's
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  Speaker 2: feeling better. Right. So there's always evidence in, in the
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  Speaker 2: real stuff. And, you know, we get stuck in words, right. Psychics, but,
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's just a higher way of looking
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  Speaker 2: at everything. So, you know, that word has stigma, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, that doesn't bother me. I just want the
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  Speaker 2: person to really have a transformational experience. So when that happens,
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  Speaker 2: there's my New York, you know, it's like, okay. You
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  Speaker 2: didn't believe it, but you know, and I love that
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  Speaker 2: I'm a New Yorker because I really want to keep
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  Speaker 2: it real and I don't want it to be airy fairy.
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  Speaker 2: And I've had the training because I work with all
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  Speaker 2: the doctors. And so that's been amazing to help them evolve. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm, I'm guessing there's a level of work that
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  Speaker 1: the person needs to do, right? That's almost like common sense,
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  Speaker 1: but not really. I mean, when someone loses a loved one,
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  Speaker 1: I've lost a couple and I've gone through therapy. I've
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  Speaker 1: gone through all sorts of different things. I've seen a psychic.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of where people get stuck is because they
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  Speaker 1: want to believe something and that can give them, they
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  Speaker 1: feel that that can give them closure. But in my opinion, I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm almost thinking that probably a lot of the work
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  Speaker 1: you do is not necessarily, and maybe it is, I
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  Speaker 1: could be wrong hearing from, you know, what you think
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  Speaker 1: is loved one in the background, but it's more the
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  Speaker 1: work the person is doing to get through that and
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  Speaker 1: to really understand it. I mean, clarify.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. What if someone had a secret that there's no
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  Speaker 2: one knew it. And let's say I get a download
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  Speaker 2: on that. That's kind of like, well, how'd you know that? Right.
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  Speaker 2: So again, it comes through the evidence that, of what
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  Speaker 2: they're dealing with and and that's always a wonderful journey
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  Speaker 2: because I'm so um in awe of it myself to
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  Speaker 2: be able to help and be able to say well
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  Speaker 2: you're you know like some I work with people who
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  Speaker 2: have problems having babies and um I will say you
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  Speaker 2: know the baby doesn't want to come because there's some
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  Speaker 2: trauma and you're afraid of being a mother right and
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  Speaker 2: If they go to all the doctors, they can't figure
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  Speaker 2: out why they can't get pregnant. We clear the trauma.
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  Speaker 2: We work on it, clear the issues. And then the
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  Speaker 2: baby is born. Okay. There's another evidence of that. So
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  Speaker 2: I've had a lot of that or working with people
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  Speaker 2: who want relationships, right? And they don't understand why they
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  Speaker 2: can't meet someone. Well, looking at the energy piece where
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of stuck. on an energy cord. That's another
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  Speaker 2: part of my work, the energy. You think you could
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  Speaker 2: divorce somebody, right? You think you're divorced to someone. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: someone died. And, or even the office and you sign
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  Speaker 2: the papers, but you still can't meet someone. That's because
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  Speaker 2: there's an energy piece. You're really corded to that person
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  Speaker 2: and you've got to cut the cords because there'll be
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  Speaker 2: like a ghost kind of following you. And you'll be
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  Speaker 2: wondering why can't I've done all the work. Why can't
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  Speaker 2: I meet someone? So I like to do the energy piece.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really an important thing. That's one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons I like to do media. I like to educate
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  Speaker 2: people about the energy of things. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So I've never thought about that. That's actually really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought that people, I can use myself as
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  Speaker 1: an example. I've been single for quite a while and
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  Speaker 1: I'm always like, what the hell? Where is he? Because
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  Speaker 1: I'm over here, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I keep thinking, well, it maybe isn't the right
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  Speaker 1: time or I need to work on some things of
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  Speaker 1: my own. Or whatever it is. But I think what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying is really interesting that there can be energies
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  Speaker 1: that are preventing you from moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: I would have you scan your body, kind of very
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  Speaker 2: simply take a flashlight inside your body and kind of
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  Speaker 2: see a cord. And people have no problem doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I say, where do you feel a cord? They always
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  Speaker 2: find it. And I say, okay, and where is it attached?
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's the loved one who passed. And you
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  Speaker 2: have to be able to really like end it there.
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  Speaker 2: right like say you know I'm this is where I'm
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  Speaker 2: tied to you and you know you can use like
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  Speaker 2: an imaginary scissor or sometimes an axe and depending on
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  Speaker 2: what the issue is. And then you end it there.
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  Speaker 2: That's real closure. And then you find out that the
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  Speaker 2: loved one really wants you to move on too.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And that's very helpful. Right. Right. So what do.
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  Speaker 1: You do at seasons with these people that, so this is,
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  Speaker 1: that's a rehab for people with addictions, correct?
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  Speaker 2: All kinds of addiction. We have mental health, every problem
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  Speaker 2: you could imagine, especially during COVID. We've had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of doctors check in and. Oh, wow. Yeah. Pilots, psychiatrists.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a different method than going in and
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  Speaker 1: just addressing the addiction itself and where you're looking more
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  Speaker 1: at where that stems from, what the trauma might be
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  Speaker 1: that has caused the addiction and how to let that go. Like,
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  Speaker 1: tell me exactly what you're doing there and how you're
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  Speaker 1: helping your patients.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I call it the root of the root. We
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  Speaker 2: have to track where the trauma began and where you
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  Speaker 2: left yourself. Right? Because in therapy, we could talk about
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  Speaker 2: the trauma, right? Yeah. But....
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  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
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  Speaker 3: know about the drawer. The drawer.
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  Speaker 4: Just the one square before bed. Or two, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat.
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  Speaker 3: With eight flavors to choose from, you can choose the
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  Speaker 3: flavor you favor.
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  Speaker 4: With Cadbury Dairy Milk.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt you, but is it hard for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these people to actually find where the trauma started?
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  Speaker 2: No, because I help them. We track it. We track it.
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  Speaker 2: I can make up exercises where to go. Go back
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  Speaker 2: in time, find the place where you were criticized and
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  Speaker 2: you started to criticize yourself. That's what I call a
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  Speaker 2: soul wound. And that's the piece that's really exciting and healing,
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  Speaker 2: because if you can get that piece, you're good to go.
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  Speaker 2: So where you left yourself, where you abandoned yourself, I
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  Speaker 2: say it's not what people do to us. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: But what we do to ourselves because of it, it's
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  Speaker 2: where we divide it. I call it a soul twist. Right. So, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And how, you know, I think what's hardest about it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it takes a while to find exactly
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  Speaker 1: what point in your life something began to change. And
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  Speaker 1: then there could be a number of different points for
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  Speaker 1: different people. But, you know, I think the hardest thing
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  Speaker 1: is really letting go for the most part. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've lived their whole life with this inside of them.
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  Speaker 1: They've probably done some therapy in the past or maybe not.
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  Speaker 1: But for me, I think like I can acknowledge different
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  Speaker 1: things in my life that, you know, Where I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking as you're talking, what happened to me
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  Speaker 1: and how old I was and what happened. But like,
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  Speaker 1: how do you tangibly let something go?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's just say we do an exercise, right? You
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  Speaker 2: can call it hypnotherapy. You know, I don't get stuck
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  Speaker 2: in words. It's just, you know, use your imagination. And
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  Speaker 2: take you and I'll snap my finger. Where did you
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  Speaker 2: lose yourself? You'll be able to see it. Not everybody does.
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  Speaker 2: And then it'll be I'll say, how old are you?
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  Speaker 2: And you'll say maybe three or four. You might not
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  Speaker 2: have realized it happened that young. And that's the piece
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  Speaker 2: where in your soul. where you left yourself. It's a
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  Speaker 2: very damaging thing to do, to leave yourself. And you
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  Speaker 2: almost have to do a soul retrieval and, and, and
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  Speaker 2: call yourself back from that place. And, and, and when
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  Speaker 2: that happens and you're not divided anymore, you really understand
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  Speaker 2: what happened to you in the for me, it's about
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  Speaker 2: who you are without the story, right? We get so
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  Speaker 2: fricking stuck in the story and, um, enlightenment and joy
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  Speaker 2: and who we really are is our natural birthright. So
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  Speaker 2: bringing that back to, um, who you are, um, helps
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  Speaker 2: addicts with guilt, which I really am against the guilt, uh, that, and,
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  Speaker 2: and the religiosity, that's a whole nother issue. of why
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  Speaker 2: people suffer in you. So every addiction would be heal
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  Speaker 2: the soul, heal the addiction, which would be the deeper
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  Speaker 2: piece of the division in yourself. And it's so powerful because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes we can have terrible things happen to
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  Speaker 2: us and we really want to know why. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think a therapist would really be able to
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  Speaker 2: look higher at the karma. Right. But that's what everyone
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  Speaker 2: needs to know. Why do I keep getting into this situation? Right.
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  Speaker 2: So think of it that, you know, from a, this
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  Speaker 2: is not all there is. I mean, come on, this
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  Speaker 2: is not all there is. So, you know, let's, I
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  Speaker 2: think of it like, well, let's say you signed up
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  Speaker 2: for classes in college. Well, you signed up classes in
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  Speaker 2: earth school and you don't realize the challenges that you
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  Speaker 2: set up on your path. So when you understand that,
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  Speaker 2: you could begin to stop suffering and blaming people. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You see, it happens with love too. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, but in part of this work, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I've done a lot of work and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it is to take responsibility and not feel
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: that things have happened to you, but you've probably walked
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the line, you know, where you've caused some of, it,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you know, like made wrong turns and it's affected, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: everyone makes mistakes and then kind of lives in that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: guilt and can't move on from that. So are you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: saying that people should realize that sometimes these things happen
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and it's not their fault and they should look at
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: how to make a different turn?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: See, Rachel, I think with you, because I, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I really respect you and I, you know, I looked
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: at some of the things that you've done and I
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: think you set up a lot of stuff so that
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you would become a champion. I think you went through
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a lot so that you would be able to transform it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So if I look deeper in a past life, I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: would say that you left yourself in a past life.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: You were maybe mad at yourself. because you weren't true
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to yourself, maybe the society, maybe the people and whatever
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that was, lifetime. So you set it up that you
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: weren't going to do that again in this lifetime. I'm
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: just giving a hypothetical. So then you'd have all this
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: trauma that you'd be going on, and that would be
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the reason for it, that you really wanted to overcome
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: what the hell people said. like, you know what I mean?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Who cares? Right. And that's an
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: important thing. Even doing this work, you know, we all,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we all have to stop caring what people think. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I think that you've done that. I think you've done that. Anyway,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: as I tuned in a little bit, I, I, I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: got that. And, um, So, um, I think that interesting
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: with all the work that you've done, this is just, again,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: another piece to it. You've succeeded. You really have.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Time to move on now and go get the fruits
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: of your labor because on a soul level, nothing really
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: got you, even though it seemed that way. You see
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: That kind of hit me in my gut.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I, yeah. And then, um, Well, the other thing,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want me to say, because
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I do this fast. I couldn't really spend a lot
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: of time on it. But also just to let you
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: know that you're a rebel. And I think there was
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: something that had to do with contracts and being boxed in.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And every time there's something there, you don't want it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: You leave at the last second, any contract. Right. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I wanted, if I had time, I would want to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: look at that because I find that so interesting. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know that much about you, but that really
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: hit me in my download. Right, right. Yeah. Wow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: So let's go back for a second. How did you,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: cause I know you're a New Yorker, you sound like
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a New Yorker. How did you even get into this?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: How did you find that this is the path that
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you wanted to take? So you felt fulfilled?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I started out, you know, I've always done acting, performing.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I worked in a clothing store and I really was
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: amazed at how women felt about themselves. It really got
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to me, you know, how much they didn't like themselves.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: So I thought I'm going to do something about it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So I created a show called real women, positive role
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: models for women. And then after that, people started bringing
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: their friends and they start, I've always been on a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: healing thing to become my best self. So that was just,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it was just a natural to pass it on.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: know about the drawer, the drawer, just.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: The one square before bed. Or two, you know, nobody's watching.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: You deserve a treat.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: With eight flavors to choose from, you can choose the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: flavor you favor with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And then after that, I did an experiment and I said, OK,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you know, God, lead me to doing this work the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: way that you want me to. And I did an experiment.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I let go. And then I got a phone call
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and I ended up working in the rehabs. And it
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was like that. It was a surrender to it. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that's what I recommend with people when they want to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: find their life purpose. Surrender to it. Let it come
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: That's such good advice because I think people don't even
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: realize that they're struggling to find purpose. But what I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: found is without purpose, you're on a constant state of,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you know, unfamiliar territory. You can't figure out why you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: can't get happy or you can't make things happen. And
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: when you find a purpose, everything seems so much easier.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Everything seems like it's not work. It's what you're meant
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to do. And everything tends to come more natural and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's not a constant fight or swimming. you know, the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: opposite direction. So I think finding your purpose is the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: hardest thing, but then once you find it, your life
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: tends to get a lot easier, in my opinion.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. It's the life-saving button, I call it, you know? Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody else could leave you, but if you have your
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: life purpose... you really have something to hold on to. Yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about, so one more
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: thing about the working in seasons. Do you find that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: people are struggling with love addiction still? I did a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: lot of work myself in love addiction and I found
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that I believe that A lot of the root of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: where a lot of problems come from are relationships with yourself,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: with others, mistaking intensity for love, getting into the wrong
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: toxic situations that make it hard for you to survive.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: It always comes down to relationships. Mm hmm. So you
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: might be coming in with a drug addiction or a trauma,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: but then again, we're end up at relationships where you
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: make some, some really good points. So it's just like
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: any addiction. It really is. It's an opportunity to do
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the deeper work on yourself because if you don't take
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: care of your issue, you'll marry it. I mean, you know, really.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: So it's again, a deeper thing about what's going on
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that you would attract. someone who's mean to you or
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't treat you well. So no matter what the addiction,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it's kind of all the same. Um, love addiction is, um,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of, uh, I guess you could say
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: since COVID it's, it's more than ever, you know, people
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: are really suffering a lot and what's happening in the world. Um,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: so I really, um, have found, I call it the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: spiritual science of love, which is if you do certain things,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: you will have it. If you do the healing, if
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you track and you understand deeply, you know, that if
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you don't heal with this person, you're only going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: have the same one over and over again. So I've
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: kind of made this system. And if you do it,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you will have great love. So yes, love addiction is
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a deep problem of the soul.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously if you don't get the help and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: deal with those issues, you will continue that pattern and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: pick the wrong person because you're constantly picking that same
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: person to try and get a different result, which technically
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: would never happen because you haven't gotten over it, right?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's my experience with it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's a lot about self-esteem. It really is. Basically,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: that's the key.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting to me that we all look
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: back on where things happened in our life that where
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: we all kind of went sideways. And it tends to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: be our childhood relationships we had with our parents or
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: things that happened in our childhood. And that's always I mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: it's definitely for me very true. But as a single
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: mother that has an 11 year old, I'm constantly trying
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to make sure that that I'm not recreating that, that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: she feels like she's in a safe place. But it
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is so hard to not have these big traumas when
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you're a child. And sometimes some of the things that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you probably say as an adult, you don't
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: even realize how they're going to live with something that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: happened or you said, and 20 years from now, she's
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: going to be dealing with it in therapy. And I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: don't even, it hasn't registered. So for me having a child,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I'm constantly replaying my own childhood to see if I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: can make hers better, you know?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And again, from a soul level, we travel in groups.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So your daughter is here to kind of you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: heal some of the things that you've also had problems with.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It's just an interesting perspective about how we travel with people.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: And then to also look at what you came in
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: with that you wanted to overcome. So we're all supposed
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to get back to that place. So, and then we
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: take the journey and then we have children and we
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: get so hooked into, you know, making sure they're okay,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: but There's the Gabron poem, your children are not your children.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: You know, that beautiful poem. I love it. Cause your
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: children really don't belong to you. And there's so much guilt.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I always say when they give you the baby, they
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: also give you the baggage of guilt and you kind
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: of have to go, you know, then karma with the child.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: So it's very important if you could understand also the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: rules of the game, the manual on how to have
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a child, right? Okay, what are the rules of the game?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: The rules is that they're going to go through a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: lot of the things, but if you heal it, if
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you heal it, you kind of stop it ancestrally, backwards
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and forwards. So again, it comes back to everyone's in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: their own classroom and has to do the healing, right?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: And the greatest thing you could do for your child
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: is to be the best that you can be. It's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: so inspiring. And that kind of does it itself, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: You've spoken a couple of times about karma. What are
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on karma?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Well, again, it's New York real. You might not believe
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: in it, right? But then again, you go, well, I
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: keep meeting the same guy over and over again. Okay,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: what's that about, right? And so it's a deeper issue of, again,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: what you're here to heal. So I would say karma
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: is anything that feels Shakespearean and intense and And you
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: might have an experience where you, I don't know if
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: you've had this, where you met someone, you go right away. Like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, I feel like I know them.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: That of course we all have things of karma or
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you could go to a place. Some people have it
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: through a location. They go, it's so weird. I feel
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: like I've been here before. These are all the signs
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that you, you've, you've done, you know, you've been there
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and something happened. And so if you could be an alchemist,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: someone who could see higher, you'd be able to help
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: someone chart a story, you know, and it's karma. It
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: could be, I once had a couple and we were
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: working on deeper issues and it ended up, he had
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: karma with her father.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Good karma?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: There was some story in the church in a past
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: life and he was really, kind of hooked into the dad.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's why they met. It's interesting, the stories and the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: puzzles of why you meet someone. So karma would be
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the higher story. You know, Edgar Cayce, one of the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: greatest psychics of all time, used to give people the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: download on why they were together. and what they were
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: finishing up by meeting, you know, and I have a,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I have a client, she's Catholic. She fell in love
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: with a very religious Jewish guy. I mean, none of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it really made sense. And they had this story from
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the past where, you know, they left each other. So
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: there was a very intense meeting. And anyway, we had
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to work on that level in order for it to heal.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: What would your system for finding love be? Because I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: think right now there are so many people getting out
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: of bad relationships from COVID still, or that are just
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: searching for love because they haven't found it for a
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: long time. They've been isolated or whatever their personal issues are.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Dating apps work for some people, don't work for others.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: It's really hard to meet people. And then to meet
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the right person is extremely hard. What would your thoughts
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: be on that?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Okay. So you almost have to do, you have to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: heal and make sure you've healed absolutely everything. So you
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: don't bring baggage to the relationship.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And when you say heal, like tell our listeners what
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: that exactly means. You mean just be in a really
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: good place where you feel like you are available and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: open for real.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You do the investigative reporting. Okay.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So you like track everything as a mirror. So you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: look at all your relationships, you could track them. What,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: where are they the same? What do I end up
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: doing in the middle of all of it? You know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: what do I end up saying to them? That's a
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: very deep piece right there to stopping that pattern. So
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: you have to be able to look at that and
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: use every relationship you've been in as investigative stuff, you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: use everybody and see what it is. That's the same. Okay. Okay.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: And so you track, you do that work and you
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: kind of, it's all a mirror, right? For you to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: look at what did, what do I need to learn
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: through these relationships? So you track that and you make
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: sure you're clear. So you're not a victim and you're
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: not blaming this person did this to me. So it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: about the question, not what they did to me. but
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: what I need to see in myself. Okay.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So that means you are on the journey and you
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: say to the universe, I'm ready and brave enough to
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: heal everything. That means you might, let's say you, you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: were with narcissists and on the journey, you might now
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: meet the next narcissist. You almost have to surrender and
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: go through what's next and be able to see it as, okay,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'm healing this. Wait, stop.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Because this is very, I get this. I only date narcissists,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think. So I don't want to date a narcissist,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: but sometimes I'll feel like that's what I'm attracted to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because narcissists have this personality where they get it. And
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I'm an A-type personality and I'm like the man.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: know about the drawer.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: The drawer. Just the one square before bed. Or two,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve a treat.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I end the woman in my own life. I take
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: care of everything and I want to find a really
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: strong man minus the qualities of being a total dick
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and cheating or, you know.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And it's really hard to find that, but I tend
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to be attracted to narcissists.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Okay. So that would be, um, okay. That would be,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: how's your intuition and are the, you have to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: able to listen to the little poke. Okay. Okay. the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: signs are always there. They're always there. Yeah. At the beginning. Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: It's the small things. And if you ignore it, you're
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: in trouble.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And you say signs, that's the same as red flags.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Is that what you mean?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Signs, red flags, your heart knows the truth. Oh my God,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you know it. And if you stay one second longer,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: that's on you. Right. So then it becomes why, what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: do you, what is it? And so if you, do
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you know it when you, do you get it right away?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: If you're dating someone, you go, Oh, do you go?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Right away. Okay. Time to go. You just
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: excuse yourself.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Which is why I'm single because I feel like I'm,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a shredder because I don't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: give people a lot of no leeway anymore.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that's good, Rachel, because one of
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the things, if you've ever feng shui, did you ever
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: feng shui your house?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You know, people talk to me about that a lot.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not really just clearing everything. And yeah, you know, it's,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it's incredible. They pay a lot for it in China. It's, it's,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it's a thing I've had someone do it for me
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: as a gift and it really works, but it's like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: you know, you're Feng Shui-ing everything. I think it's really
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: good that you're in this empty space because you need
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to be alone and to, and it's a launching pad
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: almost of being in this space. You're not with someone
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: And just just to be with someone. So you kind
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: of have to go through. I'll no longer take crumbs
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and I'll honor the space and time that I'm single
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: because it's really good to calm down and take the space.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what you're saying. I think I think
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are scared to be alone. I'm
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: not necessarily scared to be alone. I'm starting to get
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: scared that I'm set in my ways. So I am
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: not open to even being with anyone. I don't want
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: to be that person that gets stuck alone because I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: just choose to become a recluse.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So another part of my system would be after you've
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: done the work, which it sounds like you have, you've
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: got to use some energy of magnetizing it to you.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I met my husband this way. on a flip, you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I heard this little voice go on plenty of fish.com.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: So I heard, uh, and you have to, so you
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: have to do the work and then you have to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: give it to a divine matchmaker. Okay. You have to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: honor that you did the work. You have to honor
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: that you're not going with any more narcissists. And then
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you have to do some spiritual work, which is to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: let go and say kind of a prayer or whatever.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm now open. I'm going to allow you to bring
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: him to me. And let the universe do it and
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: get out of the way. Wow. You see, there's so
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: much about energy. What do you think prayer is? Healing energy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: We have it. We have this ability to send healing energy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: We have the ability to manifest our lives. We just
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: have to be able to understand that. So if you've
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: done all the work, you've got to let go. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that's what happened with me. And then I said, okay,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and heard a voice. And it led me to this
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: stupid app. and there it was. And he, and it, it's,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: it was just, uh, unbelievable how similar he is and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: how we've been at the same place at the same time.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: And he's very spiritual, but that's how it is. There
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: is a magic to it. And I have helped people
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: find their soulmates. For example, can I give you an example? Okay.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I have a client who I helped her through the divorce.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: And then she said, Oh, I met someone. I know
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I knew her, the problems with the ex. And I said,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: oh my God, this is just exactly the same guy.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And she kind of knew it too. And she was
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: very attractive and everything. I said, right now, go text
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: him and tell him you're not going to see him.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: End it right now. End it. Come on. Just take
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: this experiment. She did it. She did it. She went
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: on a plane the next week to Croatia and she
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: met her guy on the plane.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: That's how that's interesting. You're saying that it was important
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: for her to end that because had she not, she
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: would have never had the ability to even see this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: person that she was going to meet on the plane.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: It was the same guy, the same pattern. And she
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: knew it. Yeah. So manifestation is a thing. Yeah. We
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: manifest our lives. Right. And so it's important to teach people.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I teach a class on manifestation. You know, you write
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: down what you want. And then you become that list. Right.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so talk to me a little bit about this
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: because I've always been interested in manifestation. You see people
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: do little TikTok things where they're like putting stickums or
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: whatever on their mirror in their bathroom and they're like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I am beautiful. I am loving or whatever. Give me
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: some tips on how people can start manifesting a better
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: life today.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, first of all, it is not about affirmations.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they work. It's deeper than that.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: It really is. You can't just say, I, you know
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: what I mean? You have to go inside again, like
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: clear all the X's make sure there's no hooks to
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: any of them. Right. And then you have to put
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: yourself in a space of such self-love and you gotta
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: make some new boundaries. You gotta make some laws. I will,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I vow to never take crumbs. You see? So you
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: go through that self-esteem thing. Yeah. And then you, You
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: say the prayer, I'm now letting go, show me the way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And then you just, oh, and another thing is you
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: let go of all negativity. How many single women there
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: are in the world? It's bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. It really is.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And how women don't understand. men. It drives me crazy
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: because I work with them in healing. They're so I'll
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: reframe this. There's a lot of work to be done
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: on their insecurity. So, um, so, so working on the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: self-love has to do with personal boundaries and of what
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you will no longer accept. And you will also accept
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: being alone because it's a new way of looking at it,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: a new perspective. Right. I'll be alone.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And then you kind of, I could, okay, what I could,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: like I said, come up with like new ideas all
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the time. I would say, close your eyes and imagine
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: now I'm calling out to my soulmate, And let the soulmate,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: the energy, allow the soulmate to come. Just imagine a
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: presence and say to the soulmate, what do I need
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to do to bring you closer? And wait till you
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: hear your intuition, the answer, and then you'll get a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: really profound answer. And then let's say the person says,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: love yourself, believe in it. Okay. Make that adjustment. See
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: if they move closer and then do it again until
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: they're absolutely right in your field. And there they are.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: So you've created it. by magnetizing it to you wow
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I love this I can't wait to try this later
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah okay so how do you attract your soulmate
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: is this what you're talking about having these conversations yeah
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: yes wow and no let go let go if you've
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: done the work let go If.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You're trying to attract soulmates, I mean, you said you
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: met your husband on an app. So can you still
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: find your soulmate on an app? Or do you feel
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: like you have to just walk a straight line and
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: hope that somebody runs into you at the supermarket?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just say I hire someone who will help me, right?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Except it happens to be like a higher force. I'm
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: going to let them do it for me, right? So
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I'll go on the apps. and go through it and
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: not worry about it. Go know that I'm being led
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: and not care who they are, what they're doing, who
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: cares what other people are doing.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it doesn't matter what you do because
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: eventually you will come to find that person. If it's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: on an app, if it's at the supermarket, if it's
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: at the gym, because you're trying all these things, but
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you're bringing it to you. So it'll come.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Things come out of the blue. Yeah. That's the best
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: way to manifest.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Get out of the way and stop controlling everything. And
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: what do we do with our mind? We think horrible thoughts.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not ready. I keep trying. It's never works for me.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: No spiritual energy is opposite of that. You let go
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and get out of the way. Stop trying to control
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: it and to raise up your energy field, right? Let's say,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And to keep it high, really get high in a way,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: you know, keep it high vibrational. And then everything will
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: rise to meet you. Don't go down where people aren't
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: of your level. Stay high and know it'll come. It
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: always does.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is so interesting because so
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: many people get wrapped up in looking for things and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: getting really down on themselves because they haven't found it
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and really struggling to kind of be someone that they're
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: not to get to a level, to think that they're
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: attracting somebody that maybe they're not worth. And what you're
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: saying is really just do the work, be okay in yourself,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and you will find someone because it will appear to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you much more clearer. And it could be on an
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: app and it could be anywhere else.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the energy of love. If you're involved in life...
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: And you love life and you're in that high energy
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: field of yourself. That's a magnetizing force. There's no need
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: in it. There's none of that crap of the way
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: we think. You're just living high in that force. That's
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: very attractive.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: know about the drawer.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: The drawer. Just the one square before bed. Or two,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: you know. nobody's watching you deserve a treat.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: With eight flavors to choose from you can choose the
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: flavor you favor with cabri dairy milk.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: The attention is on your bliss and what you're meant
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to do yeah then you let go so it's kind
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of like a faith in a way, or I would
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: call it more knowing of how it works. If you
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: stay on that, it will come to you. Just like
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: if you track your life and you look at all
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the good things that have happened, even though bad things,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: there's evidence right there. So just make some changes of
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: negative thinking and be kinder to yourself. People are really,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: they go like this, you know, they slap themselves.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And, and that's terrible to do. And it's spiritually very
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: damaging to be mean to yourself and critical of yourself.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: It'll stop manifestation.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about dating and relationships over 40.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: First of all, I think there's a lot of people
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that are getting divorced by that point in their lives.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: And they're hesitant to get divorced because they are scared
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of who they are without this person that, by the way,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: is either so toxic or doesn't love them and puts
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: them in a space that they're not their best. So
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I think they're scared of the unknown. But also as
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: someone who is in their 40s, it's really hard. I mean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's like, you know, some sort of saying
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that it's easier to get kidnapped by terrorists to get
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: remarried after you're 40. But, you know, in my opinion,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, yourself better. You can you can
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: make better decisions. Um, you know, you can have better boundaries.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: You can figure out life a little better because you're
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: not changing. Um, but, but again, as I said before,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: people are really stuck in their ways. So what are
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on dating over?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a belief system. I don't know if it's true.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I'm really into people being free of all these conspiracy theories.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I would like to call that now for the first time,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory. I agree. It's bullshit because you true
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: love and soulmate love is such a special thing, right?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You've heard of twin flames. These are really high loves
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and you have to do the work to, to have it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So you need to be older. So this whole idea
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: of age is, is, is, is just ridiculous. And we,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: we just bought, you know, the media, just all this
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: bullshit about, It's just not true. There's an alchemy to love.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: There's stages to love. And it always makes us to
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: be a better person and to do our work and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to become our best selves. Love will do that for us.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: It's important to look at love as alchemy. It breaks
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the heart to let the light in. It cracks open
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the heart to let the light in. That's what we're
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: doing here. So all the things that have brought us
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to this point, Caterpillar to butterfly, we must honor because
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the butterfly doesn't care about the caterpillar. Why free? So
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: it's to change a new perspective on love and that
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: you're ready. You learned you're not bringing your baggage to
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the table. That's really huge for true love. So the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: way to think of it is like, look how fabulous
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I am. Look at all the healing that I've done.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Look at the freedom that I have. And now I'm
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: ready to meet a great love. So stay spiritual. Stay
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in the soul perspective. It's even with addiction. Do you
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: want to look at yourself as an addict? Or do
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you want to know that you're a light being more
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: than your story? See, it's the same thing. Dump all
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the stuff, like in a fire. Just... Take your belief
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: systems and put them in a fire. Yeah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I also think it's becoming more mainstream that people
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: are starting to believe in love after a certain age.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: One of the top shows right now that just ended
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was The Golden Bachelor, which, by the way, I just
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: finished the season finale last night. And I was in
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: tears because I was so happy for them that they seemed...
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Have you watched it?
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Yes. I've been pitching relationship shows for a long time.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: And I was always saying that age group... was very important.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And I got nose all over the place and the
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: men thing too, what men and their issues, it's an
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: untapped thing. So I'm ecstatic that they have, the women
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: were so beautiful on that show and so amazing. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I'm appalled that they didn't have more choices. Yeah. So
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping there's a resource now, maybe that's my next thing,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: which is to give these women the respect they deserve
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and not all fight over one man. So good things
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: in it, but very bad. That's true.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: But what I thought was great about the women is
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that they didn't just find women who were in their
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: late 60s, early 70s, who had had a ton of
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: plastic surgery, who looked young for their age. It wasn't
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: about that. It was about people who are really on
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a mission to find their true love. And it was
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: all shapes, sizes.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: And, you know, and even though the ages may have
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: been kind of all over the place, he didn't pick
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: someone that was too young. He picked somebody who had
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a real connection with. And at the very end, you
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: think he's going to go with someone who's, you know,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit more physically fit and, you know, makes
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: him laugh. But he picked somebody who it resonated with
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: him that they both had lost. the love of their
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: life that they had been high school sweethearts with after
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: 45 years of marriage. And that gave them each other
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: kind of, it made them really have this bond of like,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: they've been through this and now I can have someone
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: for the rest of my life.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Well, television is catching up. It's about freaking time because
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that is what's real out there.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: You know, we, we over 40 is great. It's a
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: great time to find love and we need more of
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that to be planted into the media. And then maybe
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: it'll begin to change.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about love after death.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I do have a couple people that have, a lot
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: of people that reach out to me that have gone
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: through a trauma where they've lost a loved one after
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: many years of marriage, a boyfriend, even a fiance. I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: lost my fiance when I was 26 and it totally
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: changed my life. And I still, you know, for me,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: who's someone who's 48, it's seared in my bones. It's
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: something that I do not get over. Just talking about
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it makes me want to cry because it was something
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that affected me in a way that I will always
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: be affected. Finding love after you've lost someone is really
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: tricky because I think a lot of people idolize someone.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing with parents. My father also died.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So you kind of have this love for a male
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: figure or a past love that you've had and you
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: compare them a lot. So what advice would you give
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: for people that are looking for love after they've lost someone?
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Well, there's so much you just said, Rachel, it has
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to do with maybe the fear that they're bringing to that.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: They'll lose it, the love again. And that's the thing
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that needs to be worked on. Cause if you lost
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: a love like that, you almost don't want to go
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: in it again because you know, that.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Um, but that has to be healed. There's issues around
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: death that needs to be dealt with, which is, you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: sometimes you have to see if the person gives you permission,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: you know, you feel that bad about moving on. So, um,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I just want to ask you something. Do you ever get,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: have dreams about him? Does he come in your dreams?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Do you ever feel him around you?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: No, very infrequently because the dreams that I think surround
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: me are more, you know, I think my struggle a
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: lot was whether or not someone chose to leave me.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And so I, you know, which is a very odd
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: thing to say, because I lost, you know, my dad
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and my fiance in tragic ways. But I think that
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: there's some sort of feeling inside that, you know, the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: dreams that I've had is that they're still alive somewhere,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and they're just.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Do you have a fear that if you fall in
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: love again with somebody really amazing, they will die or
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: leave you?
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I think I had that for a long time. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: think I sabotage relationships that I'm in and I either
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: don't choose available people or I end things or I
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: sabotage things before it goes to the nth degree, you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: because I'm nervous that I'm putting all my eggs in
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: one basket and I will be devastated and won't be
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: able to survive. But, you know, I've gotten to a
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: point where I can survive anything. anything. Cause I've been
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: through some major tragedies. So I, I hardened myself to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: feel like I don't need this person.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Okay. I just got chills when you were speaking. I,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: that means it hit me really hard about the issue,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: which is to really work for you on, um, opening
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the gate. Like in other words, the fear that someone
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: would die is really the block, not narcissists. Hmm. See,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: so if you get that and you open up and
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: you let people die, you almost have to go the opposite.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Like I, even if I have love, like for a
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: week or a month, it's true love. Like you have
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: to almost come to some peace about death and that,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: because you've been kind of dating people who you couldn't
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: be with. So you wouldn't have to go through that
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: trauma again. Right. And if you get that piece, the
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: door will open. Hmm. Right. The fear of them leaving.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: That's it's so huge. I'm, I got chills all over
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: my body. Like I really, I'm so excited for you seriously,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: because this happens sometimes when I feel someone's making, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: feel that that's it. Yeah. I feel that coming to
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: terms with death and losing is your way in and your,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and your soulmates right there. It's not narcissists that. So
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: in answer to your question back to that is, yeah,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: we got to get down with what death is. You know,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: what death is, what happens when we die? Is it over?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: And sometimes working as a medium and being able to
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: tap in and tune into what they're doing and what
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: they're saying and have conversations. is another way to kind
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: of like, as if you would do it in a
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: therapy office or, you know, something or have a conversation,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: but now you're doing it on the other side. So
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: we actually have a show in the process called dating
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: after death, which is, which is dealing with this subject
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: because it's so fascinating and people never talk about death,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: but you know, we all go through it. So it's
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: important to clear these issues that are just, really specific
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: to death yeah fear of someone else dying is is
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: what's going on.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So it's the fear of someone dying maybe for me
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: but I think for some people they get stuck in
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: feeling like they're just never going to find that person
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: again so they shut themselves off to love and just
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: don't ever you know kind of let themselves have it
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: again or they're too busy comparing people um, to the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: person they lost. Don't you think that that can create
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of issues with people who may be right
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: for them, but they just almost won't give them a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: chance because they feel like they're still in a relationship,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: not because that person will let them go, but they
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: kind of don't want to get over it. They still
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: want to do it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I think as you were talking, I was getting it
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: like it's fear. You know, there's so much fear there
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: and you have to clear the fear. You know, it
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: all comes down to that fear is a block. So
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: you have to kind of investigate. It would be personal
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: to each person. Like what, why can't you move on?
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a personal thing. Like you'd have to
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: be very individual about it. You know, what is it
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: about that? The other thing with death, which is it's
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: bad alone to have the grief, but if you didn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: take care of some of the issues, that's hell. because
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: it's still lingering, right?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Meaning you feel you didn't have closure is what you're saying.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: You didn't take care of something. You didn't say something
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: you needed to say, or maybe you cheated on the
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: person and you feel guilty. There's always issues around grief
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: that's really heavy that makes grief a million times worse.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So you got to get those issues and deal with them.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: The world right now is going through a lot of
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: trauma and grief. And you, I've seen on your Instagram
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: that you've talked a lot about that and like how,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: what are some things we can do to be positive
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: or feel better, feel safer? Can you talk about that?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up because it's everywhere.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: That's what people are really, it's very relevant, this question,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: because people everywhere are having this problem, right? How can
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I be happy when there's war going on? So it's
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: very important, again, to know the higher level of this.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: It's alchemy. We're in a time period right now where
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: all the stuff is coming up. You have to understand
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: that's a process of healing. you know this has been
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: predicted kind of the age of Aquarius you've heard that
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: like these are very intense times come on we've all
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: lived it COVID you know politics that's because it's an
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: opportunity on the other side of it you the alchemy
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: means you break eggs to make an omelet we all
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: have to kind of break we all have to wake
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: up this is an opportunity and an invitation to ascend
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: and It's like when somebody comes in with a drug problem,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: guess what? On your knees, you can look up. That's
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: how it works. We do not learn unless we have pain.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: It's just true. We get too spoiled, too complacent, too lazy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: So in the world, individually... And globally, we are all
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: going through alchemy, which is we've got to wake up
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: and we've got to become better people, more evolved. So
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: in answer to your question, how can you take this personally?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Become a better person. Use the suffering of other people
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: to look at what's really important. Knock off all the
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: superficial stuff and really get down to what's important and
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: become a better person like yourself. Be the change you
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: want to see in the world. Take it personally. See
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: how you can help someone who's right in front of you. Look,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I can't go to Israel. I'm Jewish. I feel it intensely.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: But I can help people that are right in front
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: of me. And that's an important thing to feel good.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: How could you be a better person and use it
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: for yourself? Yeah. Oh, and also to keep neutral to it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: And don't let it seep into your cells. You know, energetically,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: we pick up energy. A lot of times anxiety and
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: depression is energy. There's too much energy. And I like
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: to teach people how to have a shield so they
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: don't suck it into their bodies like a sponge and
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: go to the doctor and say, can I have some medicine?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, it's so interesting what you're talking about. Cause
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you've mentioned Cahil Gibran, who's somebody that I love. Um,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: and I love his poetry and his writings. Um, but
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: you were talking about feeling and you have to feel
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the pain. Um, and I have a, um, tattoo down
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: my back and it says um without pain happiness has
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: no meaning and I truly believe it's okay um and
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: it's important to see the the hard times and go
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: through them to be able to feel the good time
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: so I totally get um what you're saying well it's.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: So beautiful that you have that on your back that's
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: incredible and the fact that it would be on your
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: spine because that's the place of uh Enlightenment, you know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: the spine. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: That's why there's the caduceus, you know, in medicine. Those
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: are two snakes. This is the snake. It's the energy
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: of enlightenment. And it comes through the spine. So how
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: amazing that you put that on your back.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great that you did that. And it's just
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: so true. And to be able to go on the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: complete journey, crucified, you know, to resurrection. Yeah. You know,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: that's the way it works, you know, and there's also
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: stages of love. Like I help a lot of people
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: before they get married. I'm like, where do you, where
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: do you think was Cinderella here? It's going to be
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: happily ever after. It's going to be freaking madness.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: And you understand that. So when it happens, you get
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: to like stage one is the blindness stage to the problems. Oh,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: you go. Oh, You get out of the honeymoon stage
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: and stage three is the real problems. Are you going
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: to stay? What are you going to do? Right. Then
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: four would be, are you going to heal? And then
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: five is true love because you got to go through
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: those stages. Right.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: And what you're saying is so true because some people
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: bow out when it gets hard without realizing, but actually
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that's normal. And it's something you have to go through
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: because it'll bring you a better bond, but also it'll
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: help you understand yourself better and It's kind of you,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: as you learn, as you get older, who you are
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: when you're, you know, facing really tough times is how
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you measure whether or not you can be with that person,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: you know, um, how someone fights, how they deal with
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: you when you're not your best, you know, that's how
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: you decide if you want to be with someone, um,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you know, just as a, as opposed to someone who
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: just makes you feel good and happy and, you know,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: enables you in, in just the good parts of your life.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: It has to be someone you can be compatible with
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: when it's really bad. Um, so. I think getting through
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: that is, is normal and people forget that it is normal.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. And to prepare people, guess what? You're going to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: hit some really rough phases. That's part of it. Can
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: you hold on and get through it? Because you're perfecting
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: your soul through each other.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: You're making the diamond by hitting each other. You see?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: So if you understand the process, maybe you won't suffer
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: so much. Right.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Um, I think a lot of people will be interested
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: to be in touch with you, um, and connect with you.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: So where could people find you if they want to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: reach out?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I have, thank you so much for asking Audrey hope.com
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and at the Audrey hope on Instagram is good. And
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: then I have a YouTube where I've tried for years,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: put little nuggets in someone needs some help on relationships
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and that's, um, Audrey hope now on YouTube. And I've
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: been doing that for years. Amazing.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: And do you read your DMs if people email you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: or DM you?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Okay.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So they can reach out to you. And lastly, I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: just have a quick question. You mentioned you had a show,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Real Women. Are there certain women right now that you
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: would sort of have in mind to be on your
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: show if you were doing it right now?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I did that years ago. Now we're actually, you know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: pitching relationship shows. I have one that we just filmed.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: on um you know so people can watch and really
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: get the info um on you know what to do
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: to heal so it'll be kind of involved so we've
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: got that in progress we've got two of them um
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: we're working on right now so if that happens that's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: my dream to be able to give the information because
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: you know, working in a, in a rehab, people would
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: watch intervention. Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I love that job.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We were getting, I'm like, okay, we need to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: do something about this. That's where you're trying to get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: your information. Then that information is really needed. So we
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: need to do something about that. Right. Anyway.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I definitely think what you offer is something that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: everyone is very curious about. And when they get to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: that point in their lives that they have felt stuck
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: long enough and they want to make a change, you
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: are the type of person that they should reach out to.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So thank you so much for being on the show
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and I wish you the best.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Rachel. It's been wonderful.
• 1:04:03
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