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PGA pro Brendan Steele & Impressionist Joey Mulinaro · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast from the Action Network.
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Speaker 1: I am Chad Moment. Today's topic betting and golf, because
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Speaker 1: the Action Network announced a massive new deal, a first
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Speaker 1: the best golf betting, action, conversation, content, data, everything you
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Speaker 1: need to enjoy betting on golf. Later on in the show,
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Speaker 1: we've got master impressionist, comedy genius, social media phenomenon Joy
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Speaker 1: Molinaro coming on, as well as Jason Sobel, Action Network
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Speaker 1: The main thing. You've got a very special guest, multi
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Speaker 1: time p g A Tour winner, Mr Brendan Steele, Brendan Steel,
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Speaker 1: Brendan Steel and Steel. I just want to be able
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Speaker 1: to hit them all higher, a little bit farther, Steel
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Speaker 1: with a rip off the twelve Star, the Bows, the
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Speaker 1: way head of Steel. How good was that? Wow? Fellas, Brendan,
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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing great? Thanks having guys. I'm
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Speaker 1: really glad you're on. I'm really glad we're doing this
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Speaker 1: deal with the p g A. We've known for two
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Speaker 1: years that, like the massive amount of interest that fans
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Speaker 1: are developing in golf, The massive amount of interest that
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Speaker 1: has been developing in golf, I think largely from DFS
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Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Like it's bringing an entirely
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Speaker 1: new generation of fans that are getting excited about sort
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Speaker 1: of the opportunity to gut to watch guys play and
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Speaker 1: what every show that really means. How much do you
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Speaker 1: feeling stuff like that? On the course, there has been
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Speaker 1: definitely a huge swing with DFS. I mean, people are
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Speaker 1: always yelling at me, you know, I've I've got you
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Speaker 1: in my draft kings this week, or I'm gonna need
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Speaker 1: you to finish off this parlay or you know whatever
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Speaker 1: they've got going so um, I mean there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people looking at matchups, uh dfs, people taking long
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Speaker 1: shots every week because you can get way better odds
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Speaker 1: obviously in golf than you can betting other sports, getting
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Speaker 1: guys at one one maybe even more that can win
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Speaker 1: the win the tournament. So we've definitely felt a big
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Speaker 1: change in the last few years, and it's it's been
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Speaker 1: fun at times and then other times, you know, guys
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Speaker 1: are pissed at you because you make a bogie on
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Speaker 1: the last hole and you're like, well, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: not actually trying to do that, and it's gonna cost
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Speaker 1: me a lot more than it's gonna cost you. Then
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Speaker 1: we announced this deal yesterday. The deal was announced, there
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Speaker 1: was a story in the Washington Post amongst many other
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Speaker 1: places by Ben Strauss, who's the writer there, and he
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Speaker 1: tweeted out the story and a writer named Jason Gave
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Speaker 1: from The Wall Street Eneral responded that, like, golfers are
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Speaker 1: gonna hate this because of the social media response, and
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Speaker 1: my feeling to that is, well, they've already been dealing
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Speaker 1: with it because betting is legal in Europe. They're dealing
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Speaker 1: with it because of DFS. How much do you even
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Speaker 1: worry about something like that. I don't think it's going
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Speaker 1: to change that much. We'll we'll have to wait and see.
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Speaker 1: Because even while betting isn't legal in every state, like
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Speaker 1: people find a ways to beat I mean, you can
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Speaker 1: have a book, you can have online account in the Bahamas,
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Speaker 1: or you know, whatever the case may be. So we're
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Speaker 1: seeing a lot. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot
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Speaker 1: more of it now, but we're already getting a lot
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Speaker 1: of hate when we when we make mistakes anyway, So
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Speaker 1: social media is never a fun place no matter what
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Speaker 1: you're doing. Steely, you can say that you're getting a
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Speaker 1: lot of hate. I would say that you guys are
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Speaker 1: amongst the most coddled athletes, and specifically you are most
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Speaker 1: the most coddled athlete. If a quarterback doesn't play well,
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Speaker 1: every talk show in that city, every social media guy
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Speaker 1: and that's is criticizing that quarterback for the next seven
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Speaker 1: days until he plays again, and then he plays well
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Speaker 1: and they love him again, whereas golfers aren't necessarily accustomed
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Speaker 1: to that criticism them. And I mean five ten years ago,
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Speaker 1: you'd go out there and no one's rooting against you,
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Speaker 1: and no one's mad if you don't play well, other
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Speaker 1: than yourself and your caddy and your family. Uh, what
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Speaker 1: is it like you? Do you like that? Do you
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Speaker 1: embrace the fact that, Hey, I've got guys rooting for me.
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Speaker 1: I want them to win. I want to win for myself,
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Speaker 1: but I want them to win by betting on me,
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Speaker 1: by playing DFS with using me in a line up. Yeah. Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I definitely want that. I definitely embrace it. I mean
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Speaker 1: I played DFS. I like to gamble on other sports,
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Speaker 1: not on golf, but I know that feeling, and it's
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Speaker 1: nice to feel like you're a part of something. And
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Speaker 1: I would like to to have some great story where
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Speaker 1: somebody that could really use the money wins, like a
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Speaker 1: million bucks on a DFS thing because I win the tournament.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that would be really really cool. So, UM,
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Speaker 1: I do like that part. I like that specifically, I'm
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Speaker 1: the most caddled athlete. That's nice. I appreciate that. UM.
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Speaker 1: I try not to pay attention to what's going on
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Speaker 1: on social media at all because it's not going to
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Speaker 1: be overly helpful to me. But in general, I do
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Speaker 1: think that golfers are are obviously treated better and more
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Speaker 1: fairly than than a lot of other plates. But I
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Speaker 1: would argue that there are people that are rooting against
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Speaker 1: you and have been for your entire career, whether it's
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Speaker 1: even just other pros that don't like you, you know,
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Speaker 1: fans that decide that they don't like the way your
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Speaker 1: dress or they don't like your swing, or you know,
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Speaker 1: people have always hated my grip and my golf swing
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so they think that, you know,
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Speaker 1: they don't want me to play well, But this is
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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. We'll see if it's like just an
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Speaker 1: instant change or if it just gradually keeps building momentum
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Speaker 1: the way it has been over the last few years.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say golfers have it better than
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Speaker 1: other other athletes. I know, Sobel's kidding when he says
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Speaker 1: that you're coddled like you're a guy, and like like
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Speaker 1: he's seeing in his courtesy car right now. I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on, the only thing I could get service? What
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Speaker 1: kind of courtesy cars that? What does this? The yukon
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Speaker 1: something like that? You could practically live in that thing?
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Speaker 1: You definitely it would be better than what I was
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Speaker 1: living in when I was playing the Canadian Tour. What
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Speaker 1: were you living in when you were playing the Canadian Tour? Well,
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Speaker 1: we just on the road. We would always have like
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Speaker 1: three or four guys jammed into some tiny rental car
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Speaker 1: and none of us were twenty five, so we had
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Speaker 1: to pay all the extra insurance on it. And we
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Speaker 1: have guys like sitting on the emergency break for a
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Speaker 1: three hour drive, you know kind of thing. So it
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Speaker 1: was wild in those days, but it was super fun.
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Speaker 1: It was probably way more ridiculous than than anything that
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Speaker 1: happens out here. So we have a lot better stories
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Speaker 1: from the Canadian Tour than the PGA tour. Who were
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Speaker 1: some of the guys that you would get jammed into
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Speaker 1: the car with back then, are you still playing with them?
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Speaker 1: And so most of them aren't playing. The guys that
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Speaker 1: I was really close with in those days, guy named
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Speaker 1: Joe Lanza and Liam Kendrick and they both played at St.
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Speaker 1: Mary's and we were buddies in college. And then Greg Wells,
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Speaker 1: who's still my closest friends. They're not playing golf anymore.
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Speaker 1: They all turned throw at the same time and we
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Speaker 1: traveled around Canada. There's just not a lot of space
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Speaker 1: for for guys out here. So unfortunately, most of the
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Speaker 1: time you end up having to get a job after
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Speaker 1: you know, four or five years of playing professionally. At
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Speaker 1: what point did you think to yourself, maybe this isn't
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Speaker 1: gonna work out for me. I've had a lot of
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Speaker 1: those moments over the years. I've had him even while
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Speaker 1: I'm playing the PGA Tour, that maybe it's like it's over,
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Speaker 1: it's done, like you're never going to play well again.
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Speaker 1: I heard a quote one time That's that I thought
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Speaker 1: was really accurate. I think they were talking about a team.
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Speaker 1: I think it was even on remember when they do
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Speaker 1: the Winter Classic to lead up to the Winter Classic
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Speaker 1: on HBO, they were talking about how a team is
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Speaker 1: never as as bad as you think they are when
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Speaker 1: they're at their worst, and they're never as good when
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Speaker 1: they're they're at their best. That's kind of how it
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Speaker 1: is when you're playing golf. Like when you're playing your worst,
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Speaker 1: you think you're never gonna come out of it, and
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Speaker 1: there's never any hope. And then as soon as you
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Speaker 1: get a feel or play a good round, you think
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Speaker 1: you've got it and it's never gonna leave you again.
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Speaker 1: And the reality lies somewhere in the middle. But it's
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Speaker 1: hard to manage those emotions and navigate that while you're
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Speaker 1: while you're going through it. I will tell you a
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Speaker 1: quick story the two thousand fifteen Safe Way Open. Would
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Speaker 1: you lead by three going into the final rounds? I
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Speaker 1: definitely had the lead I left for the first three
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Speaker 1: rounds for sure. I Mean it was like, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's looking he's looking to go wire to wire, he's
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Speaker 1: playing really well, playing his best golf going into the
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Speaker 1: final round He's a one time winner on the PGA
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Speaker 1: Tour already, but feeling really good, everything's going well, and
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Speaker 1: he blows up in the final round. Yeah yeah, really
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Speaker 1: just at the end and fished in fifteenth place. And
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Speaker 1: you and I texted that night, and you were not
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Speaker 1: happy with yourself and your game. To put it mildly, Um,
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Speaker 1: there was there were idle threats of never picking up
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Speaker 1: a golf club Agan and in getting out, which I
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Speaker 1: get was just sort of the anchor in the moment.
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Speaker 1: The moral of the story, though, is that he went
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Speaker 1: on to win the two thousand sixteen safe Way Open
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Speaker 1: and the two thousand seventeen safe Way Open the very
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Speaker 1: next two years, and it just goes to show sort
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Speaker 1: of those downs in professional golf and then those wild ups.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the ebbs and flows are are crazy and
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Speaker 1: sometimes just works in sort of mysterious ways like that. Yeah, definitely,
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Speaker 1: I mean that that was a wild, wild turn of events,
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Speaker 1: and um, that was a low point just from the
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Speaker 1: standpoint of I really wanted to win that tournament and
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Speaker 1: I felt like that completely blew it. And I didn't
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Speaker 1: like blow it and finish fifth or third or something.
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Speaker 1: I blew it. And you know, dropped the way back,
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Speaker 1: so that's never good. But there's other times when you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe you've missed four or five six cuts in a row.
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Speaker 1: Guys are going through it right now out here, Um,
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Speaker 1: they're always going through it and and they don't know
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Speaker 1: if they're ever going to come out the other side.
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Speaker 1: And uh, it's can you really really lonely out here
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Speaker 1: when that's going on. So you've talked about Phil Nicholson
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Speaker 1: being a really good mentor for you and like teaching
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Speaker 1: you about the value of adding shots to your game
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Speaker 1: year after year. What are some things that you've learned
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Speaker 1: about coming back from sort of late round disasters like that.
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Speaker 1: What are what it's advice that either Nicholson is giving
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Speaker 1: you that other veteran tour pros who've given us for
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Phil Um he told me early on
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Speaker 1: in my career, you're what you're trying to do is
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Speaker 1: add a shot every year. So what he means by
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Speaker 1: that is maybe you're not a good fairway bunker player,
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Speaker 1: and one year you focus on fairway bunker play and
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Speaker 1: then you kind of get that down. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: still have to work on it, you have to have
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Speaker 1: practice on it, but you make that a focus for
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Speaker 1: one specific year, and then the next year maybe you
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Speaker 1: work on some sort of a bomb around the greening
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Speaker 1: or a flop shot or a flighted wedge or you know,
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Speaker 1: doing something like that. And then if you play out
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Speaker 1: here for fifteen twenty years, you've added all these different
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Speaker 1: layers of things that you can lean on, and you
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Speaker 1: kind of look up one day and go, Wow, I
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Speaker 1: can do this, this and this that I couldn't do
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Speaker 1: when I was twenty, and now I've got all these
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Speaker 1: different things that I can do. So that's kind of
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Speaker 1: speaking to that part, and then for later in the round.
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Speaker 1: Still has always told me, and specifically after I I
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Speaker 1: blew up at the two thousand eleven when I had
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Speaker 1: to lead in my first movie Jory On in the
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Speaker 1: final round. He told me after the round that what
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Speaker 1: I did wrong was I didn't stay patient enough and
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Speaker 1: use the entire eighteen holes to make a score. And
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Speaker 1: that really stuck with me, especially like the last couple
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Speaker 1: events that I had had a chance to win, like
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Speaker 1: even just this last week at Honda, I was really
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Speaker 1: trying to use all eighteen holes and not kind of
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Speaker 1: overreact to the fact that I got down a couple
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Speaker 1: of shots early. I was trying to be really patient,
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Speaker 1: use the whole eighteen hole of the whole round in
10:57
Speaker 1: order to get back into the position I wanted to
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Speaker 1: be in. That is a great story. So at what
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Speaker 1: point does like Nicholson come up to you and say
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Speaker 1: this In two thousand eleven, we were texting, probably that
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Speaker 1: night or the next day. Um, he was watching pretty close.
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Speaker 1: He's close with Kegan Bradley and I and and Keeking
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Speaker 1: won the tournament and I blew it. So he had
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Speaker 1: kind of a weird, you know, range of emotion than
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Speaker 1: kind of like, um, he's taken both of us really
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Speaker 1: under his wing from the time we were rookies out here.
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Speaker 1: So um, he had one one guy do great and
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Speaker 1: one guy blow up, and he was kind of, I think,
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Speaker 1: trying to congratulate him and then pump me up and
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Speaker 1: tell me what I did wrong and help me for
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Speaker 1: the future. So he's pretty awesome that way. How did
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Speaker 1: you guys become close? We share the same agent, he
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Speaker 1: get and I got on tour at the same time.
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Speaker 1: We both won in Texas our rookie year, and then um,
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Speaker 1: they set up around for us to go play with
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Speaker 1: Phil and we kind of hit it off and we've
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Speaker 1: been doing it ever since. All right, let's take a
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Speaker 1: quick break. I want everyone to listen to this story
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Speaker 1: that our in house racontour Daniel Scotty had when he
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Speaker 1: confronted an Olympic silver medalist boxer in the parking lot
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Speaker 1: of a fairway in Long Island, and how that led
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Speaker 1: to a massive winning bet for Daniel Scotty. So it's
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Speaker 1: the day of the big fight, Fight night. If you will,
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Speaker 1: you know Fury Wilder too. I've gone back and forth
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Speaker 1: the entire week leading up to the fight about who
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Speaker 1: I was going to bet on. You know, on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: I was confident and Wilder, but by Wednesday I'm hell
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Speaker 1: bent on Fury. And this kind of just kept repeating
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Speaker 1: up until Saturday, no clarity given. Looking for a sign
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Speaker 1: that could lead me to the winning side of this fight.
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Speaker 1: That leads us to Fairway, where I stopped after my
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Speaker 1: morning cardio to pick up a nice cool kombuch it
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Speaker 1: to relax on. So I walked into Fairway, I grabbed
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Speaker 1: the kombucca, I walked towards the register and as I
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Speaker 1: get on the line, I note that there's an old
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Speaker 1: decrepit looking man wheeling a wagon who thought he was
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Speaker 1: before me, and we exchanged some words. But he's an
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Speaker 1: old guy, so I was trying to be as respectful
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Speaker 1: as possible, and it got to a point where he
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Speaker 1: dropped his age as like reason for why I should
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Speaker 1: go first, and I was just like, man, like, live
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Speaker 1: the long life. I honestly don't give much sympathy to
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Speaker 1: the old card. But you know, in this case, I
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Speaker 1: let him go because he was he was fighting back
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, this is crazy, so
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Speaker 1: I let him go. He rings out, I ring up
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Speaker 1: my stuff. I walk out, and as I walked into
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Speaker 1: my car, I noticed that he's struggling to get his
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Speaker 1: groceries into his So, you know, if for no other
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Speaker 1: reason other than karma, I figured, you know, let me
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Speaker 1: help old man out lea van clif Clint Eastwood in
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Speaker 1: in a few dollars more that type of boy old
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Speaker 1: man relationship. So I help him throw his stuff in.
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Speaker 1: He gives me a big smile. He looks at me,
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Speaker 1: says you play any sports, and I'm like, no, look
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Speaker 1: at me him. You know, I kind of retired from
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Speaker 1: the whole sports thing. He pulls out a gold necklace
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Speaker 1: from under his shirt and it's these two big gold
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Speaker 1: plated boxing gloves and he goes, I boxed, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you watching the fight tonight, and he goes, who's fighting Lomachenko.
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Speaker 1: And at that point I kind of just assumed this
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Speaker 1: guy didn't know what he was talking about. He was
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Speaker 1: like an old cooker or whatever. But he proceeds to
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Speaker 1: speak at length after I tell him it's Fury and Wilder,
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Speaker 1: about each of the fighters, their strengths, their weaknesses, and
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Speaker 1: it gets to a point I asked him who he's got.
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Speaker 1: He goes, Wilder camp box, Fury can box a little bit,
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Speaker 1: take Fury, and I'm like, shit, like you know, there's
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Speaker 1: my sign. Long story short. Before the guy leaves, he says, yeah,
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Speaker 1: box for Armenia in the sixties, took home a medal
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Speaker 1: in the Olympics. He sticks out his hand to give
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Speaker 1: me like a handshake, and I'm like, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we've we've come, We've come further than that. So I
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Speaker 1: kind of pull him in for a hug, and as
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Speaker 1: I pull him in for a hug, he reels off
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Speaker 1: like four or five quick shots inside you know, Kidney
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Speaker 1: punches pop pop, pop, pop pop before I could even
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Speaker 1: like look up and I just smile at the old
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Speaker 1: best and I'm like, yeah, you still got it. So
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Speaker 1: I go home and I, you know, empty out the
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Speaker 1: account of Fiori and Man. By the time that fight
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Speaker 1: got stopped in the seventh round, all I want to
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Speaker 1: do was thank that oh Man Tip. But um, I'll
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Speaker 1: see him around. I'm in that fairway pretty often. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the next thing. The next thing. So well,
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Speaker 1: I know you have so many questions about Michelson and
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Speaker 1: the Tuesday Games. Fire away. I love stories. I trade
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Speaker 1: in stories. My favorite story of the Tuesday Game includes
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Speaker 1: you and Silly. You're not going to tell the story
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Speaker 1: as well as Phil told me the story later that
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Speaker 1: afternoon in the parking lot at TPC Sawgrass. But if
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Speaker 1: you don't tell as well as Phil, I will fill
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Speaker 1: in some of the blanks in my best Phil voice.
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Speaker 1: All right. So we go out and we play with
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Speaker 1: Cold Nose and Jamie love Mark and Phil and I
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Speaker 1: take those guys on and we get off to a
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Speaker 1: good start. We're having our way with them early, and
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Speaker 1: then we start losing some holes and we end up
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Speaker 1: getting down too, and I'm out of the hole on sixteen,
16:02
Speaker 1: Phil makes a bertie on the par five with the
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Speaker 1: all the danger around it, um to purse the hole,
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Speaker 1: so we end up down too, and even that starts
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Speaker 1: out the press, so whenever we're we have a dormy press.
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Speaker 1: So if we're two down with two to play, we
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Speaker 1: get a press. So I hit it close on seventeen
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Speaker 1: and make a birdie, so now we're one and one,
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Speaker 1: and then we go to eighteen. I hit it in
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Speaker 1: the right trees stink fills in the water, and the
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Speaker 1: other guys are in a decent spot and I'm in
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Speaker 1: the pine straw over in the trees. It's not a
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Speaker 1: great spot over there, but I found a gap and
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Speaker 1: it was kind of a Phil type shot, which I
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Speaker 1: don't often hit. But I hit this six iron out
16:39
Speaker 1: of the pine straw through the gap to about three
16:42
Speaker 1: and a half feet, and Phil went berserk. He was
16:45
Speaker 1: cheering going down the fairway. He's high five and these
16:48
Speaker 1: wrapping his arm around, these yelling at the other guys.
16:51
Speaker 1: And we get up there and now I've got this
16:53
Speaker 1: three and a half footter that's kind of curling down
16:56
Speaker 1: the hills where it still's already talking all this trash
16:59
Speaker 1: like I have to make this spot, so it's maybe
17:01
Speaker 1: about it nervous that I've ever been on a pot. Uh.
17:03
Speaker 1: Luckily I made that. Phil can talk all the trash
17:06
Speaker 1: to the guys, and then he went around and he
17:08
Speaker 1: was telling everybody about all the great shots that I
17:11
Speaker 1: hit to finish that match, so that that's one of
17:13
Speaker 1: the really good stories where I come out on the
17:15
Speaker 1: good side of it. There there are three blanket that
17:17
Speaker 1: Phil filled in here. First of all, you guys didn't
17:20
Speaker 1: play too much with Jamie and Colt in the money game.
17:22
Speaker 1: They wanted to get into the Tuesday game and Phil
17:25
Speaker 1: there was a set price for the Tuesday game. It's
17:28
Speaker 1: a one time press, you know, a price and a press,
17:31
Speaker 1: and that's what it was. And Phil basically doubled that
17:34
Speaker 1: number for Jamie and Colt, who didn't know what that
17:37
Speaker 1: price was, said hey, we got a couple of pigeons.
17:39
Speaker 1: We're gonna take these guys. The second thing is that
17:42
Speaker 1: on seventeen I don't know if it's on seventeen TI
17:45
Speaker 1: or seventeen Green, but Phil walked up to Colts Caddy
17:48
Speaker 1: and said, hey, man, I'm really sorry about this. At
17:51
Speaker 1: the time, it's still you know, they're still in the lead,
17:53
Speaker 1: and the candy turns like, what are you talking about.
17:54
Speaker 1: It goes, Oh, we're gonna bury this hole, We're gonna
17:57
Speaker 1: bury the next all. We're gonna win everything, and you
18:00
Speaker 1: guys gonna be moping around here for the next five days.
18:02
Speaker 1: And the guy he's like, yeah, okay, whatever, And that's
18:05
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. The third thing is the way Phil
18:07
Speaker 1: tells the story. And Phil said he was in the
18:09
Speaker 1: middle of the fairway on a team, but they says,
18:11
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm about to hit this shot
18:13
Speaker 1: tight on eighteen because you know, I've just got it
18:15
Speaker 1: because my partner's in the trees. Then I see this
18:17
Speaker 1: ball and it just it flies in like a butterfly,
18:21
Speaker 1: lands on the green, right next to the hole. My partner,
18:24
Speaker 1: Brendan Steel, walks out and he walks straight across the
18:27
Speaker 1: water on a team like Jesus himself, straight onto the green,
18:30
Speaker 1: taps it in to make Birdie. So we win. Philip
18:33
Speaker 1: belish to live. Phil tells a way better story than
18:36
Speaker 1: I do, so I can't keep up with that. I
18:38
Speaker 1: don't render all of that happening either, but I'm sure
18:40
Speaker 1: it did. So what is more pressure? Though? Playing against
18:43
Speaker 1: Phil on a Tuesday when he's trash talking your ear
18:46
Speaker 1: off and trying to get in your head trying to
18:49
Speaker 1: close out a tournament on Sunday or trying to win
18:53
Speaker 1: your card. Well, you know what what's great about these
18:57
Speaker 1: Tuesday games, and the reason that we like to do them,
18:59
Speaker 1: is that it's really hard for us to duplicate the
19:03
Speaker 1: kind of pressure that you feel trying to win a
19:05
Speaker 1: tournament or trying to get your card, or anytime you
19:07
Speaker 1: really want it. It's hard for us to do that
19:09
Speaker 1: if you just go play a casual round, if you
19:11
Speaker 1: just practicing. So we like to go play and then
19:14
Speaker 1: see where your game is, you know, like Phil and
19:16
Speaker 1: I will do that on and off week, will play
19:17
Speaker 1: on like a Tuesday or Wednesday, see where our game is,
19:20
Speaker 1: then go work on things for a couple of days
19:22
Speaker 1: that we didn't like about whatever happened in the round,
19:25
Speaker 1: and then try to come back and play another match
19:27
Speaker 1: before we before we leave for the next event, and
19:29
Speaker 1: see if we've adjusted and made things better. Uh. So
19:32
Speaker 1: you get a good barometer for for where you are
19:34
Speaker 1: and what you're trying to do. But I get very
19:37
Speaker 1: nervous in those games. Originally I got really nervous, and
19:40
Speaker 1: for a long time, Keegan and I were getting killed.
19:42
Speaker 1: Phil was killing me when I was at home. And
19:45
Speaker 1: then I've since gotten more comfortable over the last ten
19:47
Speaker 1: years and I've been able to do a lot better.
19:49
Speaker 1: But it's just like anybody playing around the club. If
19:52
Speaker 1: there's somebody that you really want to beat, maybe it's
19:54
Speaker 1: your buddy, maybe it's your brother, or maybe it's your dad.
19:57
Speaker 1: If you want it bad enough, you're gonna be nervous.
19:59
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel the say same things that we feel
20:00
Speaker 1: out here, whether it's playing against shill or or playing
20:03
Speaker 1: to win a tournament. If you want it bad enough,
20:05
Speaker 1: you get all the same kind of feelings. And that's
20:07
Speaker 1: what makes it golf really great, and it's what makes
20:09
Speaker 1: it really hard. Chad, I will tell you a quick
20:11
Speaker 1: story that Philter told me a few years ago, and
20:14
Speaker 1: I won't give up this player's name. He still plays
20:16
Speaker 1: on tour. I actually really like the guy. But he
20:18
Speaker 1: got into the money game one day on a Tuesday
20:20
Speaker 1: and Phil it was actually on a Wednesday, I think,
20:22
Speaker 1: before Major Championship, and Phil said, Okay, we've got We've
20:26
Speaker 1: got a few guys, let's play four x and the
20:28
Speaker 1: players that you know, Phil, that's kind of a lot
20:30
Speaker 1: of money. Can we just play for ten times less instead?
20:35
Speaker 1: Or five times less? Whatever it was? And Phil kind
20:37
Speaker 1: of looked at me because, yeah, I guess he goes you.
20:39
Speaker 1: You understand, like the winning prize at one point eight
20:42
Speaker 1: million dollars this week, like we're playing for that and
20:45
Speaker 1: the money game is nothing even close to that. Don't
20:48
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get those juices falling against
20:50
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really like playing for money that much.
20:52
Speaker 1: Phillis told that story and said, I will never bank
20:56
Speaker 1: on that guy to go and win a tournament in
20:58
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment on us Monday afternoon, even
21:00
Speaker 1: if he's leading down the stretch on the back night,
21:03
Speaker 1: just because he's thinking about it too much. He's too nervous,
21:06
Speaker 1: and he's not getting himself into those situations where you're
21:09
Speaker 1: playing for money and you have something on the line
21:11
Speaker 1: and you need to go make a shot. I mean,
21:13
Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. It's also if it's
21:15
Speaker 1: your own money and you have to physically pull it
21:18
Speaker 1: out of your pocket and hand it to somebody, it's
21:20
Speaker 1: different than if it's this kind of like money that's
21:23
Speaker 1: not yours, and that's gonna be transferred into your bank account,
21:26
Speaker 1: you know, at a later date. It's people always say, oh,
21:29
Speaker 1: how do you make a pot for you know, a
21:30
Speaker 1: hundred grand on tour or something. It's like, well, you
21:33
Speaker 1: do the best you can. You try to hit the
21:35
Speaker 1: best pot that you can, and you hope it goes in.
21:37
Speaker 1: And I've missed plenty for a lot of money, and
21:39
Speaker 1: I've made some for some money, and you know, you
21:41
Speaker 1: just it's but it's not actually yours. And when you
21:44
Speaker 1: actually have to go to the bank and get your
21:46
Speaker 1: money and then bring it out, you have to hand
21:48
Speaker 1: it over to one of your friends. It's not very fun.
21:50
Speaker 1: Sobo was telling me how you've got great games with
21:53
Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan. It's like, what are
21:57
Speaker 1: those like? You have to give them strokes. You guys
22:00
Speaker 1: get to play for steaks, Like will they play you
22:02
Speaker 1: for steaks? Yeah? So we play, I mean we play
22:05
Speaker 1: just kind of fun games. We like to get team
22:07
Speaker 1: games going. We've got a really good group at at
22:09
Speaker 1: Shady Canyon at my club. Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford
22:12
Speaker 1: joined last year. Geoffrey Loopol, who played for the Maple
22:16
Speaker 1: leaves for a long time. Is a good buddy of mine?
22:18
Speaker 1: Um are they? Buddy? Eric is friends with all those guys,
22:21
Speaker 1: so we kind of get this group together. Joel class
22:23
Speaker 1: that does the football for Fox on Saturdays for college football. Um,
22:28
Speaker 1: all these guys love golf, and so yeah, everybody gets
22:31
Speaker 1: their socks. You know, I played a plus six at home,
22:34
Speaker 1: and everybody gets as many shots as they as their
22:38
Speaker 1: handicapped dictates. And and we'll go out and play a
22:41
Speaker 1: lot of team games and talk some trash and you
22:43
Speaker 1: know those are normally pretty low stakes, but they're just
22:45
Speaker 1: more for bragging rights than to have a fun game.
22:48
Speaker 1: Who's all right? So this is good? This is good.
22:51
Speaker 1: Which one are those guys? Is coolest under pressure when
22:56
Speaker 1: there's a put that has to be made? Of those guys, well,
23:00
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Joel Klatt are both really good putters.
23:04
Speaker 1: Both really like to have puts to to win matches
23:07
Speaker 1: or to you know, win a hole. So those two
23:10
Speaker 1: guys are are very good. I would say Joel clasts
23:13
Speaker 1: the best putter in the club. He's for some reason
23:17
Speaker 1: just got it kind of kind of nailed. So uh,
23:19
Speaker 1: probably a little nod to Joel, but Matt Ryan right
23:22
Speaker 1: behind him. What is the best forcing you've ever played with?
23:25
Speaker 1: It's probably in these games that I'm that I'm having
23:28
Speaker 1: most recently, you know, with with Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford,
23:32
Speaker 1: Um some games with Film. I've played with Film with
23:34
Speaker 1: the team of Salani before, which is pretty awesome. You know,
23:37
Speaker 1: when you can get these kind of guys that are
23:39
Speaker 1: huge in other sports and they love to play golf
23:41
Speaker 1: to come play with you and they're so super excited,
23:43
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty great. I'm a huge King fan, l
23:46
Speaker 1: a King. So I've had co Pitar, Dowdy and Muzlin
23:49
Speaker 1: out one day together a couple of times actually, so
23:52
Speaker 1: so that's pretty awesome for me. I've gotten to do
23:54
Speaker 1: a lot of really great stuff. There's just there's so
23:56
Speaker 1: many good guys that love to play golf. Um had
23:59
Speaker 1: a couple of star groups, which is actually kind of
24:02
Speaker 1: through SOBL as well. I met Dave Farrell, who is
24:05
Speaker 1: the fist player for Lincoln Park through through SOBOL and
24:07
Speaker 1: then he's introduced me to some of his other rock
24:09
Speaker 1: star friends. So played with them, Shadows from Evenge seven
24:13
Speaker 1: Fold and Trey Cool, the drummer for Green Day. It's
24:16
Speaker 1: really been a pretty awesome sport to be a part of.
24:19
Speaker 1: And I don't know that I could narrow it down
24:20
Speaker 1: to one, but there's been a lot of great stuff.
24:22
Speaker 1: I got one more segment I want to do, but
24:24
Speaker 1: before we get to the last segment, how miserable is
24:28
Speaker 1: betting hockey? It's so miserable. I was talking about this
24:33
Speaker 1: this morning because my buddy John Current and I were
24:36
Speaker 1: talking about how bad our numbers are on on Action
24:39
Speaker 1: Network with betting hockey, and we're trying to figure out
24:41
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. He's gonna research today and try
24:43
Speaker 1: to figure out what our strategy should actually be. But
24:46
Speaker 1: it's my favorite support. I followed the closer than anything,
24:49
Speaker 1: and I'm terrible at it. It's by the way, Chad,
24:51
Speaker 1: you can tell, and people listening can tell that Steely
24:54
Speaker 1: and I are friends. We talk a lot. I would
24:56
Speaker 1: say like point three percent of our conversations are a
25:00
Speaker 1: about golf, and seventies seven percent of our conversations are
25:03
Speaker 1: about hockey. I mean, we're talking about hockey, We're talking
25:06
Speaker 1: about fantasy football, like all the time, trying to figure
25:09
Speaker 1: stuff out, and we're just banging our head against the wall.
25:11
Speaker 1: All of the listen We've been doing a show on
25:15
Speaker 1: Twitter called the twenty Action Network Hockey Betting Show because uh,
25:20
Speaker 1: I won't bet more than twenty dollars on hockey because
25:22
Speaker 1: it seems like a miserable thing. And we will have
25:24
Speaker 1: two of our hockey anal as Mike Leeboff and shown
25:26
Speaker 1: a realo joined me on the show and explain to
25:28
Speaker 1: me what bet I should make that night from whatever
25:31
Speaker 1: the slate is usually on Thursdays, and inevitably it ends
25:35
Speaker 1: up being like the Detroit Red Rings plus one three,
25:40
Speaker 1: And I swear to god we're gonna do it again
25:42
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and Mike Leeboff is gonna tell me to
25:45
Speaker 1: make a horrible, horrible hockey better. And if you look
25:47
Speaker 1: at his his record in the Action Network gap, he's
25:49
Speaker 1: probably like at a winning percentage of three seventy, but
25:55
Speaker 1: he's up probably a hundred and fifty units because all
25:59
Speaker 1: he does is hockey underdogs, which makes for a miserable, miserable,
26:04
Speaker 1: horrible life. It really does. And I follow him very closely,
26:09
Speaker 1: and it's the way that you have to do it
26:11
Speaker 1: in order to win, because there's too much flock and
26:13
Speaker 1: too much chaos going on out there. But it's not fun,
26:17
Speaker 1: and you have to do it every day. You'd have
26:19
Speaker 1: to take the dogs every day and just keep wlacking
26:22
Speaker 1: where you think there's value and just hoping that that
26:25
Speaker 1: it turns out good for you in the end. But
26:27
Speaker 1: it is a miserable way to do it. Do you
26:30
Speaker 1: keep up with it on tour? Like? Are you watching
26:32
Speaker 1: hockey every night when you're done with you around or
26:34
Speaker 1: like hanging out before you go into before the next day. Yeah,
26:37
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch hockey as much as I can,
26:39
Speaker 1: and right now I'm I'm doing a lot better with
26:41
Speaker 1: college basketball, so I'm watching a little bit more of that.
26:44
Speaker 1: That's probably the sport I know least about, so that's
26:46
Speaker 1: why I'm doing better. You were a huge hockey player
26:48
Speaker 1: growing up, right, Like, wasn't that your original sport? No?
26:51
Speaker 1: I didn't play any hockey, um, just baseball and soccer
26:54
Speaker 1: growing up. That's a good question, though, Chad, to get
26:58
Speaker 1: this far into the pod with it before you ask
27:00
Speaker 1: question that you know I wasn't relevant at all. No,
27:02
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I was doing the research and
27:04
Speaker 1: I feel like on the On the Mark podcast he
27:07
Speaker 1: mentioned that he played hockey growing up, and maybe I
27:10
Speaker 1: just misheard it, and he said he loves hockey growing up.
27:13
Speaker 1: I got it wrong. Listen, it's fine. I do research
27:17
Speaker 1: Winnipeg bets when he was like eight years old. And
27:20
Speaker 1: that's how we got into the seriously, all right, before
27:24
Speaker 1: we get to our last segment, before we get to
27:27
Speaker 1: another thing, I want to bring back our podcast producer,
27:31
Speaker 1: Mr Matt Mitchell, who has another brilliant segment extolling the
27:35
Speaker 1: virtues of daytime gambling, this time with a very special guest. Hey,
27:39
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Chad. I'm actually hanging out today at
27:42
Speaker 1: a barbecue at the house of one of my dearest friends,
27:46
Speaker 1: actor and typewriter enthusiast Tom Hanks. Tom, Tom, Tom, What
27:54
Speaker 1: is it? What you're finish the hamburgers? I supposed to do?
28:00
Speaker 1: Maga and Margarita. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, settled down, settle down,
28:03
Speaker 1: it's me. It's me. It's your uncle, Mitch. I love you, man,
28:06
Speaker 1: you love me. I love you too. I gotta go wait, wait, wait, wait,
28:10
Speaker 1: come back, come back. I know you're you know, sad,
28:12
Speaker 1: because I said the movie Apollo thirteen totally sucks. But
28:15
Speaker 1: I've got the perfect way to cheer your right up. Alright, alright, alright,
28:19
Speaker 1: you tell me what I'm supposed to do. You tell
28:21
Speaker 1: me what am I supposed to do. Let's gamble in
28:24
Speaker 1: the afternoon. That's good. I'm relieved. That's great. I'm saved.
28:30
Speaker 1: But still right. You think there's some kind of horrible catch,
28:33
Speaker 1: but there's not, because we can bet on some old
28:36
Speaker 1: guys in Newport Beach playing golf. I've got to do it.
28:41
Speaker 1: I gotta be brave, I gotta jump in with both feet. Yes,
28:45
Speaker 1: but why are you so sure? Because I have wasted
28:48
Speaker 1: my entire life and I'm gonna die now. I have
28:51
Speaker 1: a chance to die like a man, and I'm gonna
28:52
Speaker 1: take it. I've got to take it. I was thinking
28:55
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. I was talking with our golf
28:58
Speaker 1: expert Josh Perry, and he Australian golfer Rod Pampling this
29:02
Speaker 1: week on the PGA Tour Champions the Senior Tour. So
29:05
Speaker 1: we're gonna take Pampling in his first round matchup Thursday
29:08
Speaker 1: with Robert Carlson, who looks like an aging Swedish superhero.
29:13
Speaker 1: But the Pampling is good enough for Josh Perry, He's
29:15
Speaker 1: good enough for us, right, Tom, I don't care, and
29:18
Speaker 1: it means nothing to me. It's just a name. That's
29:21
Speaker 1: my mission. It is our mission. Daytime gambling is always
29:25
Speaker 1: the mission. That's right. I'm glad you agree. Well, my manager,
29:28
Speaker 1: Chad Noman, actually said that betting during the day made
29:31
Speaker 1: me a shitty producer. Oh yeah, great, that it's funny
29:36
Speaker 1: to you. I had to sneak off into the bathroom
29:38
Speaker 1: and have a good cry. My manager called me, I
29:41
Speaker 1: talk and find him a pig ship and did I cry?
29:44
Speaker 1: Oh now, you're Mr. Tough guy. Well you wouldn't act
29:47
Speaker 1: so tough if you saw that nude selfie Chad was
29:49
Speaker 1: senting around last week. I saw it, and it's scared
29:52
Speaker 1: the ship out of me. It's ship out of every
29:54
Speaker 1: man in America. Oh yeah, it sounds like you definitely
29:57
Speaker 1: saw it. Well, I'm delighted that you'll love be joining
30:00
Speaker 1: me here on this little afternoon gambling adventure because I've
30:02
Speaker 1: always been a little suspicious of any you know, paranoid
30:05
Speaker 1: lunatic could rather work all day than make a bat.
30:08
Speaker 1: So you're welcome. Tom God, you don't know when to
30:11
Speaker 1: quit doing. Look at me. I'm a shot off a
30:14
Speaker 1: man because of you. We're the ones who lighting fires
30:20
Speaker 1: we're are the ones where I think suspicious, that paradoise
30:22
Speaker 1: where the load of us. Maybe you're right, but we'll
30:26
Speaker 1: get rich pretty soon. Betton Royals Day games all year round,
30:29
Speaker 1: so don't worry. Tom. Yes, back to you, Chad. Alright,
30:36
Speaker 1: our last segment. Let's get to another thing, another thing.
30:43
Speaker 1: So well, you had a great anecdote in your story
30:45
Speaker 1: coming out of the Hound of Classic this weekend, in
30:48
Speaker 1: which you were trailing Brendan the whole time and he
30:50
Speaker 1: told you something really cool just as the round was starting,
30:54
Speaker 1: set it up, and then let Brendan finishing. So the
30:56
Speaker 1: whole story is that I brought a buddy. We have
30:59
Speaker 1: a d f S open this past week in a
31:01
Speaker 1: buddy of mine that I play a lot of golf with,
31:03
Speaker 1: also named Jason S. I got some tickets through Steely
31:06
Speaker 1: and I text my buddy said, hey, you're all set
31:08
Speaker 1: with tickets. Will be good. He texts back thirty seconds
31:10
Speaker 1: later a screenshot putting a hundred bucks on steel at
31:13
Speaker 1: a hundred to one, and you know, that's a good
31:15
Speaker 1: little payday. And all of a sudden he gets into
31:17
Speaker 1: contention and now it's like, all right, let's go. We
31:19
Speaker 1: gott a weekend sweat, and so we're very invested in
31:23
Speaker 1: what steal. I'm always invest in what Steel is doing.
31:25
Speaker 1: But in any case, I'm following him during the final
31:28
Speaker 1: round and he's playing with Tommy Fleetwood and last pairing
31:30
Speaker 1: down by one stroke going into uh the last day,
31:34
Speaker 1: and Tommy goes out and Bertie's the first and Bertie's
31:37
Speaker 1: the second, and we get to the third tea and
31:39
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like, you know,
31:41
Speaker 1: like yes, I'm rooting for Steel. It's a weird situation
31:45
Speaker 1: where I'm a journalist. I'm standing there, I'm just watching.
31:48
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to create any sort of environment where
31:51
Speaker 1: I you know, I want one to win over the
31:53
Speaker 1: others and that. But I also know that I've been
31:55
Speaker 1: out there enough with him that I know what to
31:58
Speaker 1: say to you in certain situations. And you made a
32:00
Speaker 1: couple of bars. Wasn't bad, But you know, you're twenty
32:03
Speaker 1: minutes and you're down three after being down one, and
32:06
Speaker 1: so basically I turned you. Walking off to Green, I said,
32:09
Speaker 1: you know, stamp coasts out six eight weeks, so oh really,
32:12
Speaker 1: And we started talking hockey for a minute. And we're
32:14
Speaker 1: still waiting on the tea box for five minutes till
32:16
Speaker 1: a couple of other stories we can't tell, and then
32:19
Speaker 1: he said, hey, do you want to know my strategy
32:20
Speaker 1: for today? Sure, if you want to divulge it right
32:23
Speaker 1: here on the tea box. And so the strategy was,
32:26
Speaker 1: since I was down three already, I was gonna try
32:30
Speaker 1: to be patient, try to do the fill thing, try
32:32
Speaker 1: to wait back. And I knew that the golf course
32:34
Speaker 1: was so difficult that it was very unlikely that Tommy
32:38
Speaker 1: was going to go shoot six under par and just
32:40
Speaker 1: run away and win the tournament. And if he did,
32:41
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like if I can't match that, I can't
32:43
Speaker 1: match it. But I wanted to have a chance on
32:47
Speaker 1: the last few holes that have water everywhere and talor
32:50
Speaker 1: and things go on nuts, that I could make a
32:53
Speaker 1: couple of good swings that could flip it and give
32:55
Speaker 1: me a chance to win. So I just wanted to
32:57
Speaker 1: be within striking distance once we got to the last
32:59
Speaker 1: three or four holes, and as Sobel said to me later,
33:02
Speaker 1: it unfortunately it happened a little too quick, because I
33:06
Speaker 1: ended up tied for the lead after like six or seven.
33:09
Speaker 1: So it flipped around where I was tied to the
33:11
Speaker 1: lead pretty quick, and then I was kind of just
33:13
Speaker 1: hanging on, hanging on, and then I had a chance
33:16
Speaker 1: on the last three holes and I just didn't quite
33:18
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite able to count. So the strategy worked
33:21
Speaker 1: until I didn't hit the shots right at the end.
33:23
Speaker 1: But there was also a great anecdote from the story.
33:25
Speaker 1: Sobel wrote about in those last few holes sort of
33:29
Speaker 1: an approach that you took when you were making sort
33:32
Speaker 1: of a shot that you felt like you you had
33:33
Speaker 1: to make explain like the mental process and what that
33:37
Speaker 1: shot was. Yeah, so on on eighteen, you need to
33:40
Speaker 1: make an eagle to get into a playoffs. Sunday MS
33:42
Speaker 1: already in at six under. On at four under, the
33:45
Speaker 1: pin stuck pretty far right, there's water on the right.
33:48
Speaker 1: I don't really have a club that can end up
33:50
Speaker 1: in a good spot for that that shot. Just with
33:52
Speaker 1: the distance that I had and everything, I would all
33:54
Speaker 1: like to be a lot further back or a lot closer.
33:57
Speaker 1: And so I was talking to my caddy and I
33:58
Speaker 1: was like, well, I know I can hit this shot,
34:01
Speaker 1: It's just obviously very risky. And uh. We decided that
34:05
Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to win golf tournaments very often,
34:08
Speaker 1: and we needed to try to get it up there
34:09
Speaker 1: somewhere to where we could maybe hold a chip or
34:11
Speaker 1: a bunker shot or something. So I hit this slap
34:14
Speaker 1: slice three wood, trying to get take probably twenty yards
34:18
Speaker 1: off my three wood and get it moving towards the flag.
34:21
Speaker 1: I pulled it off, except it started a little too
34:23
Speaker 1: far right in one of the water. See what's amazing
34:26
Speaker 1: to me? So like in that moment, you're thinking it's
34:29
Speaker 1: better to risk coming in, Say you came in fourth
34:33
Speaker 1: I think in the tournament, right, so it's better to
34:35
Speaker 1: risk coming in fourth, fifth, whatever, then taking the safe
34:40
Speaker 1: fruit and guaranteeing maybe you're gonna come in second or third. Yeah,
34:44
Speaker 1: as it turned out, a part would have given me third,
34:46
Speaker 1: and a birdie would have given me second time for second.
34:49
Speaker 1: But you know, you just don't get that many chances
34:52
Speaker 1: out here to try to win, especially on the last whole.
34:54
Speaker 1: I mean, you're normally, if you're going to finish fourth
34:57
Speaker 1: or fifth, a lot of the time you're four five
35:00
Speaker 1: shops back. So for me to finish fourth and and
35:03
Speaker 1: have that chance on eighteen, it was too good an
35:06
Speaker 1: opportunity to pass up. And and I've I've gotten off
35:09
Speaker 1: to a good start this year. Um, I lost in
35:11
Speaker 1: a playoff at Sony, so I don't have to worry
35:14
Speaker 1: about keeping my card or anything like that. So we
35:16
Speaker 1: were just like, we're going for the goose, so we're
35:18
Speaker 1: trying to get those wins. That's what's really important about her. God,
35:22
Speaker 1: that must matter so much to know that you have
35:25
Speaker 1: your card. You're kind of playing with house money a
35:27
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah for sure. I mean it ended up
35:30
Speaker 1: costing me world ranking points, CADEX cup points, my you know,
35:33
Speaker 1: all these different things. But I've gotten so many messages
35:37
Speaker 1: from friends and people watching me that are saying, I'm
35:40
Speaker 1: so glad you tried to hit that shot. Even my
35:42
Speaker 1: wife said afterwards, she was like, I'm so glad you
35:45
Speaker 1: tried to hit because you just you just want to
35:48
Speaker 1: give yourself an opportunity. And and I think all my
35:52
Speaker 1: friends and stuff, they're just telling me that they're they're happy,
35:54
Speaker 1: because that means that I'm confident and relaxed and like
35:58
Speaker 1: going for it rather than just playing it. Say, Chad,
36:00
Speaker 1: let me tell you about and we always talk about
36:03
Speaker 1: all sports being games of inches, and you know, hey,
36:05
Speaker 1: just a little thing goes wrong here, a little thing
36:07
Speaker 1: goes right there, and make all the difference. I mean,
36:10
Speaker 1: I've for a long time talked about sort of the
36:12
Speaker 1: domino and effect in golf. I mean, you can make
36:15
Speaker 1: one more put in March and then come in one
36:19
Speaker 1: instead of one twenty six at the end of the
36:21
Speaker 1: year and keep your car, and then the next year
36:23
Speaker 1: you win instead of being on the corn Ferry Tour
36:26
Speaker 1: or something like that. I can tell you a story
36:28
Speaker 1: that the only other player I've caddied for professionally Roland,
36:31
Speaker 1: Thatchers like did Getty stealing in one round like caddy
36:34
Speaker 1: the tournament for rolling Thatcher back when he was playing
36:36
Speaker 1: the web dot com when it was still called that
36:38
Speaker 1: and Roland got got to the PJA Tour is a
36:40
Speaker 1: good player. The year that Mark Leishman won in Connecticut
36:44
Speaker 1: was probably about eight nine, ten years ago something like that.
36:46
Speaker 1: And rolling out a chance you need to make Bertie
36:49
Speaker 1: on eighteen and I swear I was standing out there
36:51
Speaker 1: about a hundred and fifty yards in and I'm saying,
36:53
Speaker 1: about halfway between him and the green, and he hits
36:56
Speaker 1: it and a gust of wind picks up right as
36:59
Speaker 1: he's swing it knocks his ball into the front bunker. Well,
37:01
Speaker 1: now he still needs to make a birdie to force
37:04
Speaker 1: a playoff, and so he gets really aggressive with the
37:06
Speaker 1: bunker shot. It skips away, past, goes twenty ft past.
37:10
Speaker 1: Now he two butts. He makes bogey instead of hey,
37:13
Speaker 1: just go down there and make a bar. He finished
37:15
Speaker 1: in second place, keeps his card, makes lots of money,
37:18
Speaker 1: he's happy. Instead he fished the shriff. I believe it
37:20
Speaker 1: was third or fourth place, basic on the fact that
37:22
Speaker 1: he made bogey and was aggressive and went for it
37:24
Speaker 1: as well he should have with a tournament on the line.
37:27
Speaker 1: Lost his card that year. I'm not sure he ever
37:29
Speaker 1: got it back, and if he did, he didn't get
37:31
Speaker 1: it back for very long. I mean literally, it was
37:34
Speaker 1: a breath of wind that hit his ball in the
37:35
Speaker 1: air that can make all the difference. That story makes
37:39
Speaker 1: me sit to my stomach. There are so many parallels
37:41
Speaker 1: between professional golf and gambling. Do I take a chance
37:45
Speaker 1: and hope that it comes up, or do I do
37:47
Speaker 1: I play it safe and not go for it. That's
37:50
Speaker 1: golf and that's gambling. That's Tim Cup. Absolutely, you know,
37:55
Speaker 1: going back to the beginning, Jason says, you know you're
37:58
Speaker 1: coddled and whatever, but and that golfers have it easier
38:01
Speaker 1: than other athletes. I don't think so, because everyone always
38:04
Speaker 1: forgets that, Like golfers have to pay for everything. Yeah,
38:07
Speaker 1: you get sponsors and things like that, but you have
38:10
Speaker 1: to be paying for your house, and you're paying for
38:11
Speaker 1: your travel, you're paying for your coaches. There's an entire
38:15
Speaker 1: network that exists based on you going out and winning,
38:18
Speaker 1: and you have to keep playing for your card every year.
38:21
Speaker 1: All of it is again, but the fact that, like
38:23
Speaker 1: you're the only one remaining from your buddies who are
38:25
Speaker 1: playing in the Canadian Tour and the fact that you're
38:28
Speaker 1: willing to go for it, you know, on a what
38:30
Speaker 1: needs to be the most exquisite shot you're gonna shoot
38:33
Speaker 1: over a four day tournament, is why you're still playing,
38:35
Speaker 1: I would think. Yeah. I mean, it's also a true meritocracy.
38:38
Speaker 1: It's not subjective at all. It's what sword did you
38:41
Speaker 1: shoot and that's how much money you'll get paid or not.
38:43
Speaker 1: So this is not any let's sign sign a contract
38:47
Speaker 1: with the PGA Tour to make ten million this year.
38:49
Speaker 1: It's you can go out and win the FedEx Cup
38:51
Speaker 1: and win ten million, but you may play bad and
38:54
Speaker 1: not make anything. It's all up to you. Brenda was
38:57
Speaker 1: probably gonna make it on tour no matter what he
38:58
Speaker 1: had the talent, I would say the the highest level.
39:01
Speaker 1: At some point, you catch that break. You kind of
39:04
Speaker 1: make your own luck. You catch a break and you
39:06
Speaker 1: move up just because you're good enough. I play with
39:08
Speaker 1: pros all the time, and they're varying levels of professionals,
39:11
Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of non golf fans
39:13
Speaker 1: realized just how many different levels of professional golfers there are.
39:16
Speaker 1: But I play with guys who are playing Moonlight Tour
39:18
Speaker 1: events throughout Florida and playing like one day ors and
39:21
Speaker 1: two days and just trying to cash a check somewhere
39:24
Speaker 1: so they can go play again somewhere else. I mean,
39:27
Speaker 1: they're they're really living check to check in tournament to tournament.
39:31
Speaker 1: And the difference between one of those guys the guy
39:33
Speaker 1: playing let's say the Corn Ferry Tour, which is basically
39:36
Speaker 1: Triple A Baseball for the p g A Tour, the
39:39
Speaker 1: difference is not that one guy is so much better
39:43
Speaker 1: than the other guy. It's just that he played better
39:45
Speaker 1: at the right time, he caught some breaks, he got
39:47
Speaker 1: a little bit luckier. I mean, that's basically the game.
39:50
Speaker 1: You could say that probably about any other sport as well,
39:53
Speaker 1: but it really is that way a golf Brandon. Here's
39:56
Speaker 1: what I think. I don't know what Phil Nicholson likes
39:58
Speaker 1: to gamble at all. There's not really anything written about that.
40:01
Speaker 1: But I will say that the story Sobel told earlier
40:06
Speaker 1: in the day about Phil sort of playing with a
40:08
Speaker 1: guy on Tuesday who wouldn't up the stakes because he
40:10
Speaker 1: didn't like to play for money, it's obvious why he
40:13
Speaker 1: likes to play with you on the Tuesday games, because
40:16
Speaker 1: you got balls and you're going for it. That's what
40:18
Speaker 1: I would say. Nice work, well, thank you, I appreciate it.
40:22
Speaker 1: But I mean everything that Phil does, you can see it.
40:25
Speaker 1: The way he plays. He plays to win. He takes
40:27
Speaker 1: on all the risk. That's the way he's always done it.
40:29
Speaker 1: That's why he's so popular out here, and that's why
40:31
Speaker 1: he's won so much. So he's gonna have his failures.
40:33
Speaker 1: He's gonna have times when he doesn't pull the shot off,
40:35
Speaker 1: but he always gives himself that chance to hit the shot,
40:38
Speaker 1: like on thirteen at Dagasta. You know that's always going
40:41
Speaker 1: to be in his d n A. And I've tried
40:43
Speaker 1: to learn from that as much as I can, but
40:45
Speaker 1: it's difficult. Also, you've got huge balls just for coming
40:48
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's always a risky proposition, very risky.
40:52
Speaker 1: Brendan Steele, Jason Sobel, thanks so much for coming on, guys,
40:56
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, as promised. Up next on the
41:00
Speaker 1: Favorites podcast, Social Media sensation comedy impression genius Joey Molinaro
41:07
Speaker 1: is on the phone right now. Joey, you have had
41:11
Speaker 1: a whirlwind, if i'd say, a month, where you are
41:15
Speaker 1: racking up these kind of views for doing impressions of
41:19
Speaker 1: everything from famous guys in sports, funny videos. Tell people
41:25
Speaker 1: how this started for you? Really? Well, thanks for having
41:28
Speaker 1: me to chats NICs to to talk to you, you
41:31
Speaker 1: know here after you're connecting for a while. But um, really,
41:34
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time in terms
41:36
Speaker 1: of making funny videos and doing skits, and I've been
41:41
Speaker 1: doing it for at least three years kind of publicly
41:43
Speaker 1: trying to build some things, um and then impersonations. I've
41:46
Speaker 1: been doing them since I was a kid. Now they
41:49
Speaker 1: weren't of well known people or public figures, but I've
41:53
Speaker 1: been known as somebody who you know would get the
41:56
Speaker 1: knocked down for doing voices and and and things like
42:00
Speaker 1: that for a long time. So really, um, you know,
42:02
Speaker 1: in the last six months seven months, but like you said,
42:04
Speaker 1: especially since they started the calendar year in, everything's just
42:08
Speaker 1: really started to pick up. So you live in Indie.
42:11
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. I'm gonna eye you, Alum. So
42:13
Speaker 1: I always get excited when, like, I'm talking to someone
42:15
Speaker 1: who's making good from the state of Indiana. What do
42:18
Speaker 1: you do in Indie? Tell people what you do? Yes,
42:21
Speaker 1: My day job is I work for UM one of
42:24
Speaker 1: seven five the fan in Indianapolis. It's our ESPN affiliate
42:27
Speaker 1: here in town. So it's like where the home of
42:30
Speaker 1: the Pacers and the Colts, you know. We have UM
42:32
Speaker 1: weekday talk shows. I host a weekend show on that station.
42:36
Speaker 1: But then during the week I'm just writing for the website,
42:39
Speaker 1: doing social media posts. Not have a weekly YouTube series
42:43
Speaker 1: that I do here. So that's the day job that
42:46
Speaker 1: you know, keeps keeps the roof over the head, as
42:49
Speaker 1: they say, and you make a lot of fun. I'm
42:51
Speaker 1: starting to now, Yeah, we're on good terms. He likes me,
42:56
Speaker 1: you know, he can be a tough cookie to crack,
42:58
Speaker 1: so UM and now I can have a little bit
42:59
Speaker 1: of fun with them. Yeah, so when you started doing this,
43:03
Speaker 1: what was people's response when you started doing some of
43:07
Speaker 1: the bigger names impressions? Mostly good people enjoy them and
43:11
Speaker 1: have fun with them, and um, you know, that's what
43:13
Speaker 1: I'm out to do, is just make people laugh. And
43:15
Speaker 1: I don't ever try to do impressions that you make
43:17
Speaker 1: people look bad or put them in a bad light.
43:20
Speaker 1: You know. I just like to have fun with it.
43:21
Speaker 1: I just like to do kind of a sketch comedy
43:23
Speaker 1: feel with it. And I haven't really had too much
43:25
Speaker 1: negative feedback. You know. If I do have negative feedback,
43:27
Speaker 1: it's from a fan base that maybe is upset about
43:30
Speaker 1: other things involving their team, but then they just kind
43:33
Speaker 1: of lash out and take it out on me. But
43:35
Speaker 1: actually interviewed, uh, you know, Nick Saban is one of
43:38
Speaker 1: the guys that I that I do and I've been
43:39
Speaker 1: known to do. I interviewed his daughter on my my
43:43
Speaker 1: show here this week and was just trying to you know,
43:46
Speaker 1: if I can't get coach Saban to get his daughter
43:48
Speaker 1: and he kind of talk about that. So, Yeah, it's
43:50
Speaker 1: been fun. So what's happened that since like the beginning
43:53
Speaker 1: of the year that you think made this blow up
43:55
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know. I think that, um,
43:59
Speaker 1: you know, give myself alot credit. I think that the
44:02
Speaker 1: reason that they do so well so often is because
44:06
Speaker 1: I want to try to impersonate or capture people that
44:09
Speaker 1: haven't been impersonated or captured that much, right, you know,
44:13
Speaker 1: I mean Frank Calion. Though he's been great to me,
44:16
Speaker 1: he's a definitely a huge influence. Like now I consider
44:19
Speaker 1: him a mentor and a friend, but he's nailed down
44:22
Speaker 1: a lot of people that now anytime that somebody does
44:25
Speaker 1: an impression of those people, say John Gruden or say
44:29
Speaker 1: I mean John Madnya. I mean, there's so many people
44:31
Speaker 1: kind of think of him. So I think that's one
44:33
Speaker 1: thing is I've tried to do people that haven't necessarily
44:36
Speaker 1: been been impersonated too often. And then I think another
44:39
Speaker 1: thing is the situations that I put them in a
44:41
Speaker 1: right So Nick Salmon talking to his daughter about math,
44:44
Speaker 1: there's automatically comedy built in there. Then the impression on
44:48
Speaker 1: top of it is just kind of a bonus at
44:50
Speaker 1: that point, and I think that that recipe has has
44:53
Speaker 1: really done well. And then the fact that you know,
44:55
Speaker 1: I tried to take pride in not just doing impressions.
44:57
Speaker 1: You know, I tried to put out regular skits and
45:00
Speaker 1: videos that are just different characters that I come up with.
45:03
Speaker 1: There are are different skits that don't have anything to
45:05
Speaker 1: do with impressions. Yeah. Well, that's what I was gonna say,
45:08
Speaker 1: is like, some of the things that have really blown
45:09
Speaker 1: up have been the video of you coming out and
45:13
Speaker 1: you've got your comedy partner doing an interview with you
45:17
Speaker 1: in the middle of like classes, right, which is just
45:20
Speaker 1: hilariously funny because I think about what one of my
45:22
Speaker 1: you know, one of my kids in high school, and
45:24
Speaker 1: the way you describe sort of getting energy from the
45:26
Speaker 1: kids and later in the day is just freaking hilarious.
45:29
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, that's what I stripped for, is just
45:31
Speaker 1: trying to be as creative as possible. I have as
45:33
Speaker 1: much fun but as I can. You know, I always
45:35
Speaker 1: say no offense to my mom, but like she you know,
45:37
Speaker 1: she doesn't like the Beatles, right, so in my mind,
45:40
Speaker 1: and Mike who doesn't like the Beatles, right, So there's
45:42
Speaker 1: there's always going to be people out there have negative
45:44
Speaker 1: things to say. But for the most part, you know,
45:47
Speaker 1: it's been great, and so we've talked a little bit
45:49
Speaker 1: about you know, you're from Indie and you're a sports fan,
45:53
Speaker 1: you know your way around betting a little bit. Obviously
45:55
Speaker 1: sports betting becoming more and more popular. Obviously sports betting
45:58
Speaker 1: not legal in Indiana. We had talked about you doing
46:02
Speaker 1: an impression of like Gus Johnson when all of a
46:06
Speaker 1: sudden the game that he's broadcasting, it's really about who's
46:10
Speaker 1: gonna cover or whether or not the total is gonna
46:12
Speaker 1: go over the spread, and what that looks like if
46:15
Speaker 1: there's like three minutes left and he's super excited and
46:19
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the way the game ends,
46:21
Speaker 1: it's just about covering the total for sure. We want
46:24
Speaker 1: to give him a shot. Let's give it a shot, man,
46:26
Speaker 1: Let's have Gus set the scene. Let's see what happens.
46:28
Speaker 1: This is a brand new experiment. We've never tried this
46:30
Speaker 1: before in the favorite, so I don't really know how
46:32
Speaker 1: to do it. So let's see if like you can
46:34
Speaker 1: set the scene and the boiler makerself a rivalry contest
46:45
Speaker 1: on flock sports one, here comes the Hostess, sixty seven
46:51
Speaker 1: three and a half minutes left to play the ober
46:54
Speaker 1: set at one board. Joey Bronk inside, they missed. Here
47:00
Speaker 1: comes no Cell Eastern Eastern going east to west west coast,
47:06
Speaker 1: coming no Cell Eastern. I got it, in got it,
47:11
Speaker 1: he got it. Sixty nine six D eight boilers with
47:15
Speaker 1: the League Assembly whole rocking. Ha. Here come the Hosers,
47:21
Speaker 1: No Ho Ho Hosers, rocking and socking on the home floor.
47:26
Speaker 1: Robert Fantasy fantasy shaking bacon looking like Talladega nice shaking
47:32
Speaker 1: bacon fantasy for the three. Oh god it that's the offer.
47:39
Speaker 1: Three minutes left. But I'm slim play hole and you're
47:45
Speaker 1: going home making money. I'm just Jopson. Oh my god.
47:51
Speaker 1: That was just brilliant. That was brilliant. I'm ready to
47:58
Speaker 1: go again. That was great. I like to us that
48:01
Speaker 1: was so funny. So like when you're going through that,
48:04
Speaker 1: how much is coming to you? Like in the moment,
48:06
Speaker 1: all in the moment, man, I just And that's one
48:08
Speaker 1: of my favorite things, is like really trying to embody
48:12
Speaker 1: this person, you know what I mean, Like, even if
48:15
Speaker 1: it's not exactly something they'd say, it's still the fun
48:18
Speaker 1: of it. Of Gus Johnson just who knows what the
48:20
Speaker 1: hell he's talking about? Right, like tal diggon Nights. Three
48:22
Speaker 1: minutes left, to go, but he would say that like
48:25
Speaker 1: you would. You just don't know. So that's part of
48:27
Speaker 1: impersonation too, especially on the spot, is like you gotta
48:30
Speaker 1: just roll with it. You can't stumble on yourself or
48:33
Speaker 1: think about it too much because then if you do,
48:34
Speaker 1: then you you break character in your screw. Yeah, I
48:37
Speaker 1: gotta say you're a pro. The fact you were able
48:40
Speaker 1: to sort of ramp up to that and on the
48:42
Speaker 1: spot like flip the idea because we had had a
48:45
Speaker 1: different idea entirely unbelievably impressive. Really appreciate it, Glad, Like
48:50
Speaker 1: you're following skyrocketing and more and more people are paying attention.
48:55
Speaker 1: Joey Molinaro, brilliant impressionist. Thank you for coming on the Favorites.
49:01
Speaker 1: Thanks Chad, there was a lot of fun guys, talk
49:02
Speaker 1: to you soon. As always, we're going to close with
49:06
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49:11
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