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Robert Murray’s early trade talk rumblings + Pujols reveals Marlins pursuit, Trout’s no-trade · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: That intro makes me excited because Robert Murray is going
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Speaker 1: to start appearing more on FT again as we get
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Speaker 1: closer to trade season, and we already had one several
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Speaker 1: days ago that had a lot of attention on this show.
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Speaker 1: Robert Murray back with US fan sided insider, FT Insider Robert,
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Speaker 1: Good to see you.
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Braves. I mean, they're I.
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Speaker 1: Don't want to say surprising everyone because they've got a
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Speaker 1: lot of good players, but I think some of the
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Speaker 1: additions they made in the offseason have definitely helped that
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Speaker 1: cause and been underrated. So thoughts on what they've done
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Speaker 1: and crafted, but then also if you can mix into
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Speaker 1: your answer what you think they will do to try
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Speaker 1: and even you top that at the trade deadline or
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Speaker 1: close to it.
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Speaker 3: No, for sure, I appreciate you boys have me as always,
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Speaker 3: But the Atlanta Braves, like you talk about them, you
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Speaker 3: always think about Matt Olson, Austin Riley, Asie Albi's Michael
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Speaker 3: Harris the second like guys like that. But they've really
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Speaker 3: had some different players who they ended up adding in
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Speaker 3: the offseason, kind of some under the radar guys Mauricio
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Speaker 3: Dubon and then also Dom Smith Dubon was acquired from
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Speaker 3: the Houston Astros. They got him and they tried actually
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Speaker 3: getting him at last year's trade deadline, but they valued him.
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Speaker 3: They thought he was a perfect fit for their clubhouse,
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Speaker 3: but also a guy that like his versatility infield outfield,
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Speaker 3: he can play a bunch of different positions. He's been
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Speaker 3: wonderful for them this season. He looks like a real
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Speaker 3: guy that they can build around. And he's only signed
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Speaker 3: for about five or six million, so that's relatively cheap.
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Speaker 3: But then Dom Smith too, he is a guy who
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Speaker 3: is He got a bunch of minor league interests this offseason,
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Speaker 3: but the Braves really saw an opportunity for him in
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Speaker 3: his left handed bat to really make an impact into
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Speaker 3: that lineup. And we've seen him at some pretty clutch homers.
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Speaker 3: He had a walk off Grand Slam to start the season.
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Speaker 3: And they seem like a team that absolutely can make
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Speaker 3: some noise here in the National League. They look totally
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Speaker 3: totally legitimate. But if I was Alexanthopolis, I would go
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Speaker 3: out and I would a starting pitcher at the deadline,
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Speaker 3: And it seems like it's gonna be a pretty common
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Speaker 3: theme for a bunch of these different contending teams, and
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Speaker 3: I think the Braves really stand out as a team
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Speaker 3: that could use some pitching reinforcements. They've had some guys
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Speaker 3: really step up in the wake of some absences here.
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Speaker 3: Bryce Elder is one who really stood out. So they
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Speaker 3: seem like a team that and compete with the Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: They seem like a team that seems legit. And if
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Speaker 3: they added the deadline, that's just going to further bolster
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Speaker 3: their case to possibly represent the National League in the
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Speaker 3: World Series.
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Speaker 4: Robert the bullpen is for me, is the thing that's
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Speaker 4: been great for the Braves.
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Speaker 3: Just a starting pitcher.
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Speaker 4: But Iglesias hasn't given up a roam. Suarez has been
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Speaker 4: nasty bummer Lee. This bullpen has been disgusting. So not
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Speaker 4: only do you have to get through Chris Slee and
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Speaker 4: Elder and the rest of Lopez and the rest of
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Speaker 4: these guys, then if they have a lead, the game
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Speaker 4: is over.
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Speaker 3: No, totally. And that's exactly what they ended up having
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Speaker 3: in mind with Robert Suarez when they got him in
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Speaker 3: the off season. It wasn't like the most glaring need
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Speaker 3: that they ended up having. Like I remember when it
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Speaker 3: came down to to the end, for Robert Soarez, there
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Speaker 3: was a bunch of different teams. You heard about the Mets,
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Speaker 3: you heard about the Blue Jays being involved in. I
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Speaker 3: thought he may end up going to one of those
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Speaker 3: two teams, but the Braves swooped in and ended up
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Speaker 3: getting him. They gave him a three year contract and
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Speaker 3: they look extremely smart for doing so. And when you
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Speaker 3: can have those talented players on offense, and then also
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Speaker 3: let's say you hand the ball to Chris Sale or
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Speaker 3: one of those guys, and then, as you said, you
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Speaker 3: turn to the bullpen where you got Suarez, Bummer, Iglesias,
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Speaker 3: all those guys. It's the recipe for a really strong,
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Speaker 3: sustainable team. And that's why I'm buying stock in the
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Speaker 3: Braves and why I really believe in him at the
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Speaker 3: moment you talk about the trade deadline.
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Speaker 5: Alix Anthopolis's m when he was with the JS, he
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Speaker 5: made some massive moves. He you know, he got the whole,
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Speaker 5: He got Josh Donaldson, he went out and got you know,
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Speaker 5: made made moves that were like okay. But he's since
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Speaker 5: come out and been like okay, I really understand as
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Speaker 5: some of the early moves I made as a GM
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Speaker 5: didn't really help our clubhouse. Now since he's been with
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Speaker 5: the Braves, has he made a big trade deadline acquisition,
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Speaker 5: because you're gonna be on here talking, oh man, the
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Speaker 5: Brave should get Freddy Peralta. You know this team's out.
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Speaker 5: If if this team loses in the next three days,
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Speaker 5: so and so might be available. Has he really been
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Speaker 5: a GM at the trade deadline that's made massive moves
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Speaker 5: or everybody just remembers two thousand and one moves where
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Speaker 5: he kind of just supplemented their outfield with Duval and
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Speaker 5: I'm forgetting who else the left, Eddie Roario, Jeck Peterson,
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Speaker 5: like more like more small moves that worked out. Is
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Speaker 5: he a GM that could make a massive trade deadline move?
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Speaker 3: I see no reason why he shouldn't consider it like
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Speaker 3: he's he's done big trades in the past, Like it
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Speaker 3: hasn't necessarily been at the deadline. Chris Sale was a
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Speaker 3: big offseason move. So I don't think he's necessarily like
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Speaker 3: a verse or like or against doing something like that.
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Speaker 3: But you're right, he has found value on the margins
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Speaker 3: where Jack Peterson, Solaire, Eddie Rosario, those guys when they
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Speaker 3: ended up making it to the World Series, really ended
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Speaker 3: up like stepping up and help contribute to that team.
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Speaker 3: So I could see him doing something quite like that.
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Speaker 3: But there's also going to be a bunch of different
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Speaker 3: guys who are to be available or possibly available at
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Speaker 3: the deadline. You mentioned Freddy Peralta. Have a hard time
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Speaker 3: seeing the Mets trade him to a division team. I
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Speaker 3: have a hard time even seeing the Mets selling at
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Speaker 3: this point. You could see the Giants possibly move one
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Speaker 3: of their guys Robbie Ray. Joe Ryan is someone who's
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Speaker 3: probably gonna be asked about plenty of the deadline, and
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Speaker 3: thankfully his injury is not overly serious, so there's a
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Speaker 3: bunch of different ways that he can go about addressing
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Speaker 3: this team. But I really don't If I was Anthopless,
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Speaker 3: I would possibly think about swinging big because this seems
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Speaker 3: like a team that can really makes some noise here
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Speaker 3: in that now.
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Speaker 4: I know you're a Cup fan, so I understand. God,
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Speaker 4: you're all high on the Cubs and you're all high
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Speaker 4: weekend is the Crosstown Series. White Sox versus the Cubs. Okay,
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Speaker 4: is this the most exciting Cubs White Sox series in
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Speaker 4: forever that I can remember? Because both teams are actually trying?
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Speaker 4: And what do the White Sox need to do to
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Speaker 4: continue this run? Will they add? Possibly? And then what
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Speaker 4: do the Cubs need to do to continue because they've
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Speaker 4: been hot other than when the Braves of what their
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Speaker 4: ass last two days?
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Speaker 2: Wait?
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Speaker 3: First of all, last time I was on the show,
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Speaker 3: you excuse me of being a Pirates fan, So I
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Speaker 3: guess I want to bits of the NL Central down
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Speaker 3: I grew up in.
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Speaker 4: When you live in you live in Milwaukee, so you
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Speaker 4: got you know, you're like crats, you have like five
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Speaker 3: No, I mean, hey, you know, I mean you're always happy.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you're always sad at the same time,
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Speaker 3: but glass half fall, you're always happy, I suppose. But anyways,
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Speaker 3: going back to the Cubs and White Sox here, I
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Speaker 3: like the Cubs they were like in previous years. I've
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Speaker 3: been skeptical or skeptical about their chances in the NL Central.
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Speaker 3: I've always thought the Brewers were the team to beat,
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Speaker 3: and they still seem like a pretty formidable opponent. For sure.
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Speaker 3: But the Cubs this year just really look like a
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Speaker 3: team that's also capable of making some noise there. And
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Speaker 3: you look at that team, I thought Lucas Giulito was
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Speaker 3: a perfect fit for them, but they wanted to stick
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Speaker 3: with their internal options, like considering all their different injuries
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Speaker 3: in the pitching side. They would let it play out
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Speaker 3: some more. They're going to continue to let this thing
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Speaker 3: play out. But at the deadline, if you can swing big,
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Speaker 3: if you're the Chicago Cubs, I absolutely would do so.
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Speaker 3: And Freddie Peralta is a guy who has a ton
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Speaker 3: of familiarity with Craig Console. Again, I'm skeptical about the
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Speaker 3: Mets even selling and I have a hard time seeing
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Speaker 3: the move Peralta, but just throwing his name out there.
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Speaker 3: But if you can go out there and get a
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Speaker 3: big name starting pitcher, I think that would really help
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Speaker 3: their case and further separate them from the Brewers. As
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Speaker 3: far as the White Sox go, they are a team
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Speaker 3: that I don't think they're ready for contending quite yet,
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Speaker 3: but they're super like. They're exciting, they're fun to watch
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Speaker 3: play baseball, and we haven't been able to say that
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Speaker 3: in recent years, and I think Chris Gets deserves a
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Speaker 3: ton of credit for what he's built there, and getting
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Speaker 3: Mirakami on a two year, for thirty four million dollar
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Speaker 3: contract looks like a stroke a genius. Like there was
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Speaker 3: talk obviously last obvious season about him possibly getting two
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Speaker 3: hundred million, and the fact they got in for that
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Speaker 3: little is a really strong investment by them. And they
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Speaker 3: got some of these young players as well. If you
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Speaker 3: can continue to build around those guys, and maybe if
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Speaker 3: you can add somebody at the deadline who's controllable, I
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Speaker 3: think that'd be a really smart move for them. But
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Speaker 3: staying the course, staying with this vision and building this thing,
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Speaker 3: because as I said, it's not probably not this year,
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Speaker 3: it might not even be next year, but they are
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Speaker 3: definitely a team that's on the rise. And I do
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Speaker 3: think it's one of the more exciting recent series between
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Speaker 3: these two teams in quite some time because they're both
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Speaker 3: on the up and up, and I think that's a
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Speaker 3: really good thing for baseball.
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Speaker 5: Are the pieces fitting in line for the Cardinals to
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Speaker 5: extend somebody like Jordan Walker? This is one year off
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Speaker 5: of everything that you know, they finally are getting rid
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Speaker 5: of Nolan Aeronado. They got rid of Sunny when they
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Speaker 5: wanted to get rid of the year before. Now the
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Speaker 5: new gm heim Bloom, who even in Boston wasn't given
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Speaker 5: the privy to give out an extension until the whole
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Speaker 5: Devers thing was like, oh crap, John Henry's like, we
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Speaker 5: got to pay somebody. So do you feel like things
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Speaker 5: are aligning for it, because at the end of this year,
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Speaker 5: Jordan Walker's already got three years in the show. All
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, he's just three years away from herbart
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Speaker 5: from free agency. This extension is going to be historic
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Speaker 5: if they do it.
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Speaker 3: No, totally, and it's something like for most of the
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Speaker 3: offseason we ended up hearing about JJ Weatherholt as a
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Speaker 3: guy who could be extended there. But Walker's really burst
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Speaker 3: down to the scene here is ops has like jumped
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Speaker 3: up significantly from last year. And he's a former first rounder,
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Speaker 3: former top ten prospect, so it's always been in there,
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Speaker 3: but it took him a little bit of time to
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Speaker 3: get comfortable at the major league level and he's really
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Speaker 3: settled in and you can see his numbers there. He's
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Speaker 3: been a totally different player. The strikeouts obviously, like got
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Speaker 3: to work on that, but still he is a player
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Speaker 3: who is on the ascent, who they believe that can
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Speaker 3: be a building lock for them, And if you can
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Speaker 3: maybe extend weather holds, that's would be great. But Walker here,
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Speaker 3: if I was if I was the Cardinals, he would
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Speaker 3: be a priority for me if you can. There's a
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Speaker 3: couple of different ways that can go about this thing too.
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Speaker 3: If they want to do like a shorter term deal,
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Speaker 3: you can look at like the Pete Carl Armstrong kind
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Speaker 3: of kind of structure. I think that would make some sense.
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Speaker 3: But if they want to go a longer term where
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Speaker 3: it really ensures that he's going to be in Saint
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Speaker 3: Louis for the majority of his career, I think the
11:24
Speaker 3: Austin Rally comp is a really good one. It's around
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Speaker 3: the same age from when Rally signed his around I
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Speaker 3: want to say, pretty close to the same amount of
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Speaker 3: service time. I think it would make a lot of
11:35
Speaker 3: sense for them to consider. And the way that he's
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Speaker 3: playing right now, obviously like it's he's still young, he's
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Speaker 3: still growing. But if it continues this way, the price
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Speaker 3: is only going to go up, So I think it
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Speaker 3: would be smart for the front office to consider it.
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Speaker 2: For sure.
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Speaker 5: Do you think anybody outside of the National League East
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Speaker 5: or Washington National fans in general know who Foster Griffin
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Speaker 5: is before this season.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell if they read my story ID an exclusive
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Speaker 3: in interview with Foster as he was coming over from overseas,
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Speaker 3: so you would you would have known for sure. So's
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Speaker 3: it's good seeing him burst down to the scene here
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Speaker 3: like this is. He looks like a totally different picture
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Speaker 3: from what he was here before. And he's been He's
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Speaker 3: been incredible for that. He's been probably one of the
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Speaker 3: best value signings, if not the best value signing of
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Speaker 3: the entire offseason. One year for five point five million.
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Speaker 3: There was a he got interest from a couple of
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Speaker 3: different teams or a few different teams, I should say,
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Speaker 3: but bet on himself with that one year contract, and
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Speaker 3: I believe that was the first signing of the Paul
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Speaker 3: tabony ero. So between that and also the early results
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Speaker 3: here from the from the Mackenzie Gore trade, it looks
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Speaker 3: like a pretty good start to the Paul to bony
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Speaker 3: tenure in Washington for.
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Speaker 1: Sure, Robert, anything else we're missing on the trade front,
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Speaker 1: I know it's early. I get excited. I'm sorry, I
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Speaker 1: can't help myself. And I know you've started to float
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Speaker 1: some notes out there. I think one of the articles
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Speaker 1: was focused on that. So anything you're really feeling confident
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Speaker 1: about as a key discussion point come trade deadline time.
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Speaker 1: Because for now, it's like, cool, we can have a
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Speaker 1: fun combo about Mets starters that could be available if
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Speaker 1: they continue to stink, some Giant starters, maybe Sandiel Contre
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Speaker 1: if the Marlins aren't in it. But anything you feel
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Speaker 1: really good about as a name that's going to get
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Speaker 1: talked about a ton in a month from now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this going back to the Giants because
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Speaker 3: I've seen a bunch of different Internet smoke about this
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Speaker 3: is after the Patrick Bailey trade. Like the first thought
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Speaker 3: that I had is like, oh, what could be next year?
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Speaker 3: Is this could be the start of a fire sale
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Speaker 3: for the Giants, And as of this point, I don't
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Speaker 3: see that happening. And Raphael Devers, William Doomas, Matt Chapman,
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Speaker 3: the Giants have not internally discussed trading any of those players.
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Speaker 3: They want to continue to build around them, and they
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Speaker 3: want to continue to try to compete this season, and
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Speaker 3: they believe that those players can be meaningfully better, like
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Speaker 3: Devers has been much better in the month of May.
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Speaker 3: He looks like a totally different player. I know what
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Speaker 3: happened with William Dommas yesterday on the base as that
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Speaker 3: was not a good look and he owned up to
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Speaker 3: it after the game. But they still want to compete
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Speaker 3: this season and that means keeping all three of those guys.
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Speaker 3: If they do sell, I would look at Robbie ray A,
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Speaker 3: Tyler Mallley. Maybe if Harrison Bader stays healthy and performs
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Speaker 3: better offensively, he could draw some interest, but I don't
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Speaker 3: expect it to be anything remotely crazy as far as
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Speaker 3: the Giants go here. But another name that I expect
14:25
Speaker 3: again this is going back to the Mets, and I
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Speaker 3: mentioned Freddie Perrault as a guy that is probably going
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Speaker 3: to get interest. And the other one that I think
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Speaker 3: with the Mets is going to draw plenty of interest
14:34
Speaker 3: here is going to be Clay Home and he is.
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Speaker 3: He's been phenomenal this season. He obviously has extensive history
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Speaker 3: in the in the bullpen, but the rotation, he looks
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Speaker 3: like an all Star caliber player and he's got the ability.
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Speaker 3: I think he's got an option for next season. At
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Speaker 3: this point, he looks pretty likely to decline it and
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Speaker 3: become a free agent, but I would expect a lot
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Speaker 3: of teams to call about him. There is this trademarkets
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Speaker 3: still forming, It's still teams are gonna be waiting quite
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Speaker 3: a bit here until they make some final decisions. But
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Speaker 3: I would expect if the Mets struggles continue, for them
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Speaker 3: to get plenty of calls about both Parlta and Clay Holmes.
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Speaker 3: But as at this point, I just don't see either
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Speaker 3: of them going quite yet.
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Speaker 4: Robert, you mentioned you recently wrote about the CBA negotiations
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Speaker 4: that started.
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Speaker 3: Does this mean there's hope or does.
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Speaker 4: This mean it's just eyewash and we're gonna we're gonna
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Speaker 4: hear about them starting to talk, but it's really not
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Speaker 4: going anywhere.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels kind of like eyewa. I don't think.
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to go anywhere at
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Speaker 3: this point. And my guess is we see very little
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Speaker 3: if any movement during the regular season, and then eventually
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Speaker 3: a lockout is going to happen, and then at that
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Speaker 3: point it's a matter of who moves first. But often
15:44
Speaker 3: deadlines spur action, and that's what I would expect. Once
15:48
Speaker 3: there's a potential threat of missing games, I would expect
15:51
Speaker 3: both sides to come together and try to reach an
15:53
Speaker 3: agreement here because at the end of the day, like
15:56
Speaker 3: both sides will want to get paid, They will want
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Speaker 3: their money, and I can't see them having like a
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Speaker 3: real threat of missing significant games or any games, because yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's a bunch of different issues that are gonna end
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Speaker 3: up coming up here, and the salary cap is gonna
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Speaker 3: be the top issue. There's gonna be a bunch of
16:13
Speaker 3: others here as well. But who budges first on the
16:17
Speaker 3: salary cap because the owners are going to push for it,
16:19
Speaker 3: the players are against it. And when I was talking
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Speaker 3: to Brent Soudor about it, he seemed like he was
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Speaker 3: very much against it, and it seems like most, if
16:27
Speaker 3: not all, of the players are feeling that same way.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna start budging on like March twentieth. Both sides.
16:33
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, yeah, we're gonna play a full season.
16:36
Speaker 1: We might have to start a few days late, but
16:37
Speaker 1: we're gonna do one sixty two because the media deals
16:39
Speaker 1: are the biggest thing, and that's a couple of years
16:41
Speaker 1: later and nobody wants to lose on on that. So
16:43
Speaker 1: your spring training plans might have to get adjusted, But
16:46
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to fast forward through all
16:48
Speaker 1: of the fun that we're going to have covering this thing.
16:50
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, trades are fun. Robert great, catching
16:53
Speaker 1: up with you, dude. Appreciate you.
16:54
Speaker 2: Looking forward to a lot more combos leading up to
16:56
Speaker 2: the deadline too.
16:58
Speaker 3: No, for sure, I appreciate you boys. Having good rest
17:00
Speaker 3: of your day, and thank you guys. I appreciate you.
17:11
Speaker 7: But if something interesting comes across my phone, I'm going
17:14
Speaker 7: to present it and don't blame me. It's just my
17:16
Speaker 7: phone and a for Cocta Brown check mark. And I
17:19
Speaker 7: use the term lightly source, it's really not. It's just
17:22
Speaker 7: someone who heard something. Don't be surprised if we wind up.
17:25
Speaker 7: If we end up with Mike Trout, great source. He's
17:27
Speaker 7: one hundred years old, but they think he's a better
17:30
Speaker 7: leader than Bregman and we'll hit a bunch of home
17:32
Speaker 7: runs at Fenway Park and La likes Duran and bail.
17:35
Speaker 2: It cross my mind, would you put it.
17:37
Speaker 7: Past John Henry to be reactionary and reach for a
17:42
Speaker 7: move to try and regain the narrative. He would do
17:46
Speaker 7: it because it's so reactionary and it just sort of
17:51
Speaker 7: feels as off the wall as trading Raffie Devers in
17:54
Speaker 7: the first place, and kind of a reaction at this
17:57
Speaker 7: point of the season. Listen, it's my responsibility to present
18:02
Speaker 7: for Cockta things that come across my phone. If it happens,
18:05
Speaker 7: you can you can thank me.
18:08
Speaker 2: It's Mike Felder, radio host up in Boston.
18:10
Speaker 4: Some just came across my phone. A source told me
18:14
Speaker 4: it's mean to use the word for Mike Trutwice. He
18:17
Speaker 4: likes Ficashia bread. Yeah, because Mike Trout is going to
18:21
Speaker 4: the Marlins. You heard it here from a source.
18:24
Speaker 2: Also, Mike Trott has a full note trade clause.
18:27
Speaker 4: He's not going to Boston. And for Brian Bao and
18:30
Speaker 4: Jared Duran.
18:33
Speaker 2: Mike Trout's not going to approve a trade to Boston.
18:36
Speaker 5: Now and he costs money.
18:39
Speaker 1: Will he ever get traded? I think there's a chance
18:41
Speaker 1: that at some point it works out. Like I think
18:44
Speaker 1: the people that just completely dispel it are a little
18:47
Speaker 1: bit delirious. But it has to be like very very many.
18:51
Speaker 4: It would have to be safe, it would have to
18:53
Speaker 4: almost be Philly. Yeah, but he also wants to go
18:56
Speaker 4: somewhere where they really have a chance to win.
18:58
Speaker 2: Philly has a chance to win.
18:59
Speaker 8: I agreed, but Boston doesn't right now with the career
19:03
Speaker 8: set up. And also it's he's a better leader than Bregman.
19:08
Speaker 8: I love Mike Trout. I haven't heard that.
19:11
Speaker 2: These guys are essentially just taking callers and then.
19:13
Speaker 4: Krat Have you heard that about Mike Troue. I mean,
19:15
Speaker 4: I've heard Mike Trout's awesome. I've been around him a little,
19:18
Speaker 4: very little. He's awesome. He's one of the But I
19:22
Speaker 4: haven't heard of him being like Bregman.
19:24
Speaker 1: I mean like that getting everybody's scouting report and then
19:28
Speaker 1: calling them and going over everything and being like, here's
19:30
Speaker 1: what I saw on the other side, Like Bregman's a coach.
19:33
Speaker 1: Trott's not a coach, He's a player, like very good player.
19:36
Speaker 1: Bregman's a player coach. Do you agree, Like there's a
19:38
Speaker 1: few guys like that where he's like, no, I'm actually
19:40
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of the staff.
19:42
Speaker 4: Do you think Korea got his because he Korea is
19:45
Speaker 4: almost like a GM coach player.
19:47
Speaker 2: Yes.
19:48
Speaker 3: Do you think he got that from Bregman.
19:49
Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah? I think he saw that.
19:53
Speaker 5: I don't know when I played with Korea in sixteen
19:57
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year. He was already he
20:00
Speaker 5: was already like real mature for his age. I think
20:03
Speaker 5: he might have been twenty two at the time. I
20:06
Speaker 5: can look it up while I'm chatting chatting here, but yeah,
20:10
Speaker 5: he was already young, did he I mean, did they
20:13
Speaker 5: learn together? Absolutely, learn together. But at that point Bregman
20:16
Speaker 5: wasn't up yet. But I remember I was doing like
20:18
Speaker 5: a I was doing, so he was twenty one at
20:20
Speaker 5: that time, and I remember thinking, this is a really
20:23
Speaker 5: mature twenty one year old. Like I was doing like
20:25
Speaker 5: an exercise, doing my med ball routine in the gym,
20:29
Speaker 5: in the weight room, and he comes in. He looks
20:30
Speaker 5: at me, He's like, why do you do that? What
20:34
Speaker 5: are you looking for? What's the He's always he's very inquisitive,
20:37
Speaker 5: very I mean, you listen to back in the day
20:40
Speaker 5: one of our first interviews here, Like he cares about
20:43
Speaker 5: the process, and he cares about his career, and he's
20:46
Speaker 5: always looking for something. So I don't know, I don't
20:49
Speaker 5: know who got it from who, but I know before
20:52
Speaker 5: Bregman made it up because Bregman made his debut in
20:54
Speaker 5: sixteen then that Correa was already that way. Like very inquisitive,
20:59
Speaker 5: wanting to learn, and kind of mature beyond his years.
21:04
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we have a few minutes
21:05
Speaker 1: for this one. It got millions of views on the
21:09
Speaker 1: tweet last night from our.
21:11
Speaker 5: Account, Launch Angle, Launch Angle Tatis.
21:14
Speaker 2: No different one. Oh okay, let's show it.
21:19
Speaker 1: Albert Poohole said he rejected a three hundred and fifteen
21:21
Speaker 1: million dollar offer before signing a contract.
21:23
Speaker 2: With the Angels in twenty eleven.
21:25
Speaker 1: The team who made the offer, which you didn't reveal,
21:27
Speaker 1: is an hour forty minutes from the Dominican Republic, well.
21:33
Speaker 4: Run in Houston, no Seattle.
21:38
Speaker 1: So David Sampson on his show, and he's a friend
21:40
Speaker 1: of this show, went on and discussed it.
21:42
Speaker 2: Now I listened to it for you guys.
21:45
Speaker 1: He started it by going, we didn't care what age
21:48
Speaker 1: he was or if he did stereoys his words. I swear,
21:53
Speaker 1: I'm literally just saying go click on the episode he
21:56
Speaker 1: started there and then eventually talked about how they like
22:00
Speaker 1: his shelf life was a max of five years, even
22:02
Speaker 1: though they were offering ten or whatever it was.
22:04
Speaker 2: They didn't care.
22:05
Speaker 1: They were like, this guy's worth forty plus a year
22:07
Speaker 1: just for five years.
22:09
Speaker 2: For us, you know.
22:10
Speaker 1: Anyway, the offer, yeah, ended up being that massive amount.
22:13
Speaker 1: I didn't get to finish because he was still going
22:15
Speaker 1: and then our show started. But he talked about how
22:17
Speaker 1: he slept in Dan Lozano's suite, like they have a
22:19
Speaker 1: big suite and there's tons of guys in there just
22:21
Speaker 1: talking about deals, and they didn't want to be seen
22:23
Speaker 1: by the media, so they waited there while Albert decided,
22:26
Speaker 1: and then the next morning they come back in and said, nope, sorry,
22:30
Speaker 1: going with the Angels.
22:30
Speaker 2: So obviously the Marlins were pissed.
22:32
Speaker 1: They felt like it was done already with Dan, and
22:34
Speaker 1: Dan was waiting for Pooholes and his ex wife at
22:37
Speaker 1: the time to make the decision.
22:38
Speaker 2: So there was a lot going on there. But Samson
22:40
Speaker 2: did lay it all out and they were pissed. That's
22:44
Speaker 2: probably why.
22:44
Speaker 4: He, I mean, it was more surprising. This was the
22:46
Speaker 4: fact that the I mean, the Marlin the biggest surprises
22:48
Speaker 4: Marlin's offered three hundred and fifteen million.
22:51
Speaker 1: It was real, I mean said he said, it was real.
22:53
Speaker 1: They were getting paperwork. He already approval and he doesn't
22:57
Speaker 1: make this stuff up already, approval from MLB Commission owner.
23:00
Speaker 1: All that stuff was signed off to do the deal.
23:02
Speaker 1: They were prepping it with the PR team, and then
23:05
Speaker 1: he took the turn to the angels.
23:06
Speaker 4: And what do you get from the angels?
23:08
Speaker 2: What did he get from the angels? Two thirteen?
23:11
Speaker 4: So he took two fifty instead of three point fifteen
23:17
Speaker 4: in Florida with no taxes.
23:19
Speaker 2: That's the only interview.
23:20
Speaker 5: That's the only confusing part for me that that's where
23:24
Speaker 5: but I mean when you think about like the amount
23:26
Speaker 5: of money, Christy, that's sixty five, that's about one hundred.
23:30
Speaker 2: Million dollars more when you include the taxes, when you.
23:32
Speaker 3: Include the taxes, Wow, God.
23:36
Speaker 5: That's the part. That's the part where I have a
23:38
Speaker 5: hard time believing it. But the other part that don't
23:41
Speaker 5: have a hard time believing. People were like, oh man,
23:44
Speaker 5: the Marlins did that, Like this was right around when
23:48
Speaker 5: they extended Mike Stanton, like Jean Carlow got the got
23:52
Speaker 5: the extension a little bit after that, and I think
23:54
Speaker 5: his was three twenty five. Am I right on that?
23:58
Speaker 5: Or three nineteen?
23:59
Speaker 3: Yeah?
23:59
Speaker 2: That was until No, that was years later, years.
24:02
Speaker 4: Later, because he's still right.
24:05
Speaker 2: No, maybe fifteen, I.
24:07
Speaker 4: Was thinking fifteen or sixteen.
24:09
Speaker 5: I thought it was thirteen years I thought it was
24:11
Speaker 5: thirteen years and he signed it in fourteen. So I'm
24:14
Speaker 5: saying like they already were. I mean, it's not like
24:17
Speaker 5: the Marlins now who have you know, are paying essentially
24:20
Speaker 5: what the Dodgers are paying Kyle Tucker as a payroll
24:24
Speaker 5: like they had they had it, like they had reached
24:28
Speaker 5: the three hundred million dollar plateau where they were like, Okay,
24:31
Speaker 5: well we offer it the pool hosts like sure, Jonky
24:34
Speaker 5: ball game you can have. You can have three hundred
24:38
Speaker 5: and some million, Like I think, I'm sure you guys
24:41
Speaker 5: figured it out when he.
24:42
Speaker 1: Signed thirteen and twenty fourteen, you were closer on the years.
24:46
Speaker 2: That was pretty good.
24:48
Speaker 3: So is that time.
24:50
Speaker 5: And it was the same time that they that they
24:52
Speaker 5: lied to that they lied to Mark Burley, the same
24:55
Speaker 5: time that they lied to Jose Reyes I mean signed him.
24:58
Speaker 3: Did I say, lie?
24:59
Speaker 5: I meant lied to them and they brought all those
25:02
Speaker 5: guys in and then they traded and asked those guys.
25:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not handled. I don't care what they say.
25:09
Speaker 1: They told the agents and the players that they had
25:12
Speaker 1: a heath bell. They told them that they can't do
25:18
Speaker 1: no trade clauses. It's like this company policy it's in
25:21
Speaker 1: the Bible. It's just not allowed, but that they have
25:24
Speaker 1: a no trade clause. And then they traded them five
25:26
Speaker 1: minutes later, and that might be why Albert Poohols was like, yeah,
25:32
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.
25:33
Speaker 4: This was before that. Now it was before no I know,
25:36
Speaker 4: So this was this is in twenty eleven. This is
25:39
Speaker 4: when they signed Burley because that was your Assie left.
25:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, the White.
25:44
Speaker 4: Sox so twenty twelve would have been his first year.
25:46
Speaker 4: They signed Reyes, they signed Burley, they signed I think
25:48
Speaker 4: John buck Bell, Heath Bell.
25:51
Speaker 2: This was the pivot.
25:52
Speaker 1: The pivot was they had money, They're opening the ballpark,
25:55
Speaker 1: and they're like, let's spend.
25:56
Speaker 2: This is our time.
25:57
Speaker 4: It was a year they had the TV show with
25:59
Speaker 4: Ozzie when Us in about two weeks and then he
26:01
Speaker 4: got fired for saying he loves Castro.
26:03
Speaker 2: Yep.
26:04
Speaker 5: Well, like, let's let this isn't the time. This was
26:08
Speaker 5: just the season that they were going to spend. They
26:10
Speaker 5: were clearly going to spend like they did, and then
26:13
Speaker 5: they just send everybody out, just like they've done every
26:17
Speaker 5: other year in the history of their franchise. Hey we're
26:20
Speaker 5: gonna try. Hey we won a World Series. Bang, we
26:23
Speaker 5: want another World series, get rid of everybody,