Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Jarrett Smith - Clydesdale Media Podcast | Movin to PRVN

Transcript

Jarrett Smith - Clydesdale Media Podcast | Movin to PRVN · Clydesdale Media Podcast

0:12
In the kitchen you decide to
0:16
stay that's how it winners
0:18
made stick a fork in
0:31
What is going on, everybody?
0:33
Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast,
0:36
where we today are going to
0:37
talk to new director of
0:40
elite athletes at Proven, Jarrett Smith.
0:44
But before we do that,
0:45
huge shout out to Sue Griffiths.
0:47
She just became a member of
0:49
our YouTube channel,
0:50
and we want to thank her
0:51
because without you guys doing that,
0:53
we could not support this show.
0:56
But thank you so much, Sue,
0:57
for doing that.
0:59
Many thanks.
1:00
With that,
1:02
let's jump into a little bit of
1:05
talk with Jarrett because
1:06
last time we talked to you,
1:08
things were very, very different.
1:12
Yeah, different location, a lot going on.
1:16
Yeah, so that was right after semifinals,
1:18
I think,
1:18
and we were kind of ramping stuff
1:20
up for the MJF.
1:21
Yeah, so at that point,
1:23
you were living in Boston.
1:26
You were coaching at Comptrain.
1:30
And then all of a sudden I
1:33
look at your Instagram and
1:34
you're making a statement
1:35
thanking everybody there
1:37
for the opportunity they
1:38
gave you and that you were
1:40
moving to Nashville to work
1:43
with the proven team.
1:44
So how did that all come about?
1:47
Yeah, it.
1:50
It's funny, like you said,
1:51
I'll talk about it.
1:52
All that happened in the off season.
1:53
It's really not that much
1:54
different than what you
1:55
typically see in other
1:56
professional sports.
1:57
I mean,
1:58
the way I would best kind of liken
2:00
it to is like if you're a
2:02
coach in the NFL and you're
2:03
a positions coach,
2:04
like you're a D-backs coach
2:06
or a linebackers coach,
2:07
and you get the opportunity
2:08
to go be a defensive
2:09
coordinator for another team,
2:10
it's just like it's an
2:11
opportunity that you get a
2:12
chance to go do and go take advantage of.
2:15
And I was fortunate enough
2:17
to be able to connect with
2:19
Nick over here, the CEO of Proven,
2:21
ultimately connect with
2:22
Shane and the team here,
2:23
have a few conversations
2:25
and found that it was a really,
2:27
really cool opportunity to
2:28
come over here and be a
2:29
part of this thing and the
2:30
things they're building.
2:32
And kind of like you said,
2:33
it's way less to do with
2:35
anything that happened at
2:37
Comtrain and just a lot
2:38
more to do with just an
2:40
opportunity to take the
2:41
next step in my career and
2:44
learn some stuff from some
2:45
other individuals and try
2:46
and help lead this team as best I can.
2:50
And like you said, in the NFL,
2:52
like if you're a DB's coach
2:53
and you get a chance for a
2:54
promotion to defensive
2:56
coordinator or something like that,
2:58
you have to consider it.
3:00
Yeah.
3:01
In addition,
3:02
if you're going to use the NFL analogy,
3:04
like you may work under
3:05
Sean McVay and you want the
3:09
opportunity to maybe work
3:10
under someone else with a
3:11
different philosophy just
3:13
to expand your own knowledge base.
3:16
So what I want to ask you is,
3:18
what has the major
3:19
difference been since you
3:21
got to Proven from CompTrain?
3:23
And it doesn't mean that either are bad.
3:25
It's just different.
3:28
Yeah, no, it's really cool.
3:30
So again,
3:31
let's let the NFL analogy keep going.
3:33
You'll have a coaching tree
3:34
that you'll typically see.
3:36
Some NFL coaches,
3:38
they just produce coaching.
3:40
head coaches and defensive
3:41
coordinators at other
3:42
places around the league.
3:43
And you carry a lot of those
3:44
principles and foundations
3:46
that you learn from that
3:47
coach into every job that you do.
3:49
And having spent like three
3:52
years up at Comptrain with
3:54
Ben and before that Harry
3:56
and that whole culture and
3:57
environment up there has
3:59
certainly shaped a massive
4:01
part of the type of coach
4:02
that I am and the way that
4:04
I work with athletes and
4:05
build relationships.
4:07
And not to mention,
4:09
getting a really good
4:10
understanding about what
4:12
that training looks like in
4:14
those closed door rooms
4:15
with the elite of the elite in our sport,
4:18
which was incredible to be able to do.
4:20
But then, like you said,
4:21
the other thing is everyone in our space,
4:23
all the coaches in our space,
4:26
we all do it similar,
4:28
but there's a different
4:29
flavor to each one in the
4:30
way that it goes.
4:32
Being here at Proven with Shane,
4:35
um and tia and and you see
4:38
it when you get a chance to
4:39
come to this building um
4:41
the attention to detail and
4:43
the just unbelievable focus
4:45
on small things um is is
4:49
just it's on a different
4:50
level than I've seen before
4:52
when it comes to the
4:54
facility making sure no
4:57
stone is unturned it's just
4:58
been a really really neat way to kind of
5:01
learn from them in the way
5:01
that they've done the
5:02
process for a long time.
5:04
And at the same time,
5:05
why would you not want to
5:07
potentially have the
5:07
opportunity to come and be in this role
5:10
and get to peek behind the
5:11
curtain of what the
5:12
greatest CrossFit athlete
5:13
of all time and her coach
5:15
have been doing for a while,
5:17
there's a bunch of
5:18
different things that made this position,
5:20
this opportunity extremely appealing.
5:22
And just like you said, not better,
5:25
not worse, just different.
5:27
And I will forever,
5:28
forever be indebted to Ben,
5:30
the Comtrain community,
5:31
CrossFit New England.
5:32
I would not be the coach
5:33
that I am today without the
5:35
opportunities and the
5:37
knowledge and the
5:38
experience that I gained from them.
5:40
And we'll continue to be
5:40
friends with them for the
5:41
rest of my career and the
5:42
rest of my life.
5:42
And I can't wait to have
5:43
opportunities to go up
5:44
there and go and see them.
5:45
But yeah,
5:46
it's just been a really neat way
5:47
to kind of peek behind the
5:48
curtain and see what very
5:52
few people get to see on a
5:53
day-to-day basis with how
5:54
they handle business here.
5:58
A quick question from the chat is,
6:01
is Proven HQ an affiliate?
6:02
And I believe it is.
6:03
Yeah.
6:04
Yeah, 100%.
6:05
So the setup here is pretty gnarly.
6:06
So it's similar to CrossFit
6:08
New England in a way.
6:09
It's just a little bit
6:10
bigger and in a different
6:11
part of the country.
6:12
So we have one half of the building,
6:14
which is our pro space.
6:16
We've got four lanes of a
6:18
semifinal style rig.
6:20
We've got everything that
6:21
our professional athletes
6:22
need on one side.
6:23
On the other side, we have another massive,
6:26
two massive rigs along
6:28
different ends of the wall
6:29
for a full affiliate experience here.
6:31
So,
6:32
The perception is that it
6:35
could be that this is just
6:36
our pro training space,
6:37
but it couldn't be further from that.
6:39
We have one complete separate side.
6:40
And then the other side,
6:42
it's not like this is a,
6:42
it's going to sound weird to say,
6:44
it's not a competitor's
6:46
affiliate or a competitor's gym.
6:48
It is a CrossFit affiliate
6:50
that is in Berry Hill in
6:51
that community of Nashville.
6:53
And we just happen to have
6:54
on one side of the building,
6:55
a couple of the fittest
6:57
humans that have ever
6:57
worked on the planet.
6:59
It's pretty cool.
7:01
So that leads me down to one
7:02
of my next questions,
7:03
and that is you come to
7:05
Proven and you learn that
7:07
there is a microscope on
7:09
everything that they do.
7:11
And with that comes misconceptions.
7:13
And one thing that I found
7:15
in the last couple months
7:17
is Nick and Shane have been
7:19
very quick to get out in front of it.
7:23
They're not hiding anywhere from anything.
7:26
and they go out they go on
7:27
coffee pods and wads they
7:29
go on different podcasts to
7:31
clear the air and to give
7:33
their side of the story and
7:35
to explain things so the
7:36
misconception is taken away
7:38
what's it feel like for you
7:40
coming into this
7:41
environment and seeing the
7:42
actions of your leaders I
7:44
love it I absolutely love
7:45
it I couldn't agree with
7:46
how it's been handled more
7:47
um and in defense of the
7:51
media in our space
7:53
Let's talk about the NFL again.
7:55
In the NFL, you have 16,
7:56
17 weeks of a season, 18 weeks,
7:58
17 games in a year.
7:59
So for that amount of time,
8:01
the media and the NFL,
8:03
they get to report on the
8:04
sport that they are reporting on.
8:07
in the office and then in
8:08
crossfit and in the off
8:09
season they'll talk about
8:10
potential trade rumors but
8:11
everything pretty much goes
8:12
quiet in the off season the
8:13
nfl media team gets a step
8:14
back um when uh free agency
8:17
isn't just like now ramps
8:18
up they start to have more
8:19
stuff to talk about and go
8:20
from there our sport is
8:21
weird like you guys really
8:23
have maybe four weekends a
8:26
year to really report on
8:28
our sport and the things
8:29
that are going on so
8:31
outside of those four weekends a year
8:34
if we as camps and athletes
8:36
and coaches aren't
8:38
available and open and
8:39
transparent in what's going
8:41
on in our communities and
8:42
our camps and being able to
8:44
hop on shows like this and
8:45
talk to you guys,
8:46
it's easy for other things
8:48
to potentially just get
8:49
spun up unintentionally.
8:52
which is so cool that Nick and Shane,
8:54
whenever these things do happen,
8:56
they hop out, get out in front of it,
8:58
have full transparency in
8:59
the conversations in order
9:00
to kind of squash that stuff.
9:01
And I absolutely love it.
9:02
I think that we always talk
9:05
about professionalization of this sport.
9:06
And I think a big part of that
9:08
also comes with
9:09
professionalization of the
9:11
media and the relationship
9:12
between the media and the
9:13
athletes and the coaches
9:14
and the camps and like
9:15
having more clarity instead
9:17
of us just going behind
9:19
closed doors for the
9:20
majority of the season and
9:21
it's unintentional because
9:22
all we want to do is build
9:23
the fittest humans in the
9:25
world to compete at the
9:26
games but in doing that we
9:27
basically stick our head in
9:28
the sand and shut out the
9:29
rest of the world whereas if we can
9:32
be more transparent come on
9:34
shows like this have nick
9:35
and shane get out in front
9:36
when things gets fun it
9:37
allows for more
9:38
transparency it allows for
9:40
people to know what
9:41
actually goes on at these
9:42
places instead of like
9:43
wondering what's happening
9:45
um so long answer of and
9:47
I've loved how they've
9:48
handled it um it's been
9:49
very cool to see and I
9:50
couldn't agree more with
9:51
how they've been handling
9:52
these things so my last
9:54
compare contrast question is
9:58
It seemed when I talked to you last,
10:00
at Comptron you had a lot
10:01
of autonomy with your athletes.
10:04
You kind of got to program
10:06
directly for them, work with them,
10:08
and Ben let you loose on that.
10:11
Is it similar at Proven or
10:13
is there more oversight here?
10:17
It's similar,
10:18
whereas each of the athletes here,
10:21
they all have certain
10:22
things that they need to
10:23
work on and they need to touch.
10:25
And then between Shane, Dwight Upshaw,
10:28
one of the other coaches here, and myself,
10:30
we have conversations every
10:32
week and basically every
10:34
day about what these days
10:36
are looking like for each
10:37
of these athletes.
10:38
especially with um us coming
10:40
over here kind of in the
10:41
middle of their training
10:42
season like it'd be silly
10:44
to kind of just completely
10:45
upend everything and do
10:46
something completely
10:47
different so we have
10:48
conversations we find um
10:50
the right places and ways
10:53
for these athletes to be
10:54
able to integrate their
10:55
training together do pieces
10:57
together without feeling
10:58
like they're in the gym
11:00
competing against each
11:01
other every single day and
11:03
there's a whole lot of
11:03
other things that we do to
11:04
try and mitigate
11:06
the feeling that they're
11:06
competing every single day
11:08
because the training in this sport,
11:10
I would argue,
11:12
is probably one of the most
11:13
difficult training sports
11:14
in the world to do day in, day out.
11:17
And if you are constantly
11:18
feeling like you are
11:19
competing against the
11:20
people that you're here with every day,
11:21
it's really tough to do so.
11:23
Um,
11:23
the autonomy is still there to provide
11:25
our athletes with whatever
11:26
it is that they specifically need.
11:28
And then Shane Dwight and I find, um,
11:30
intelligent areas for these things to, uh,
11:32
merge together so that they
11:34
can run with each other and
11:35
have a little fun sometimes.
11:38
And so how important is it
11:40
for an elite athlete to
11:41
have a community just like
11:42
Joe average CrossFitter
11:44
going to the gym every week?
11:46
Um, it,
11:47
it can get to be pretty lonely if
11:49
you're just working out by
11:50
yourself all the time.
11:52
I completely agree.
11:55
Two things.
11:55
One,
11:55
I love the fact that we do have an
11:57
affiliate here and
11:57
specifically now that we're
11:58
like the open announcement
12:00
is going to be here tomorrow.
12:01
And it's, it's chaos out there right now.
12:03
Like it is wild.
12:04
The production that CrossFit
12:05
brings to do these things.
12:06
It's very, very cool.
12:07
But I also love the fact
12:08
that we're going to have Jay and Sid,
12:11
Sid Wells hop in this
12:12
workout and have their home.
12:15
It's you don't get a home
12:17
game in CrossFit.
12:18
Like they get this one chance,
12:19
like have a home game where
12:20
our affiliate community is
12:22
going to be there to support them.
12:24
And then the other thing,
12:26
how hard can it be to train
12:27
and do this thing by yourself every day?
12:30
It's always going to be each
12:32
athlete dependent.
12:33
Some people really, really agree with it.
12:35
And you see some athletes in
12:36
our space who have done it
12:37
for a very long time at a
12:38
very high level.
12:39
Brent, Pat, and Ariel,
12:43
who's here now doing the announcement,
12:45
it's worked very well for them.
12:48
I, however, think that
12:50
the camp model and the small
12:53
group training group model
12:56
is the best way to do this
12:59
for a couple reasons.
13:01
One,
13:01
if you look at any other individual sport,
13:06
it's almost always done in
13:08
a camp setting.
13:09
The group effect is real.
13:10
The group effect started
13:11
with a group of marathon runners,
13:12
I believe, somewhere up in Boston.
13:14
They came together.
13:14
They found out how awesome
13:15
that was that you could
13:16
pull each other along
13:17
through workouts and get
13:18
The performance gains from that.
13:22
What we need to do here, though,
13:23
is just make sure that,
13:24
like I said earlier,
13:24
that they are not feeling
13:25
that they are competing every day.
13:27
And we're doing a lot of
13:27
things here for them to
13:28
feel like they are supporting each other.
13:31
They are pulling each other along.
13:33
And ultimately,
13:34
if we do this thing right
13:35
and we do it well,
13:36
when they get to semifinals,
13:39
specifically the East and
13:41
the females in the East for us,
13:43
Hopefully they're in that last heat.
13:45
They're able to look down the lane,
13:47
see familiar faces,
13:48
have a comfort in knowing
13:50
that their teammates are
13:51
out there with them and
13:52
they're competing with
13:53
their teammates against the
13:54
test and not necessarily
13:55
competing against each other.
13:57
Because if each of them
13:58
shows up to the semifinal
13:59
and they all do their job,
14:00
there's a games ticket
14:01
there waiting for them.
14:02
They're not taking it from each other.
14:04
They just need to show up
14:05
and do their job.
14:06
So I think that the camp
14:08
model and having support
14:10
amongst your teammates is the way to do it,
14:13
but it requires a lot of
14:14
work to build the right
14:15
culture so that it doesn't
14:16
become something that's
14:17
toxic and something that's
14:19
overly competitive.
14:21
So we have another question from the chat,
14:24
and that is,
14:24
a lot of camps seem to be a
14:26
rotating door of athletes.
14:28
Is that a benefit or
14:29
something to try and avoid?
14:30
That's a great question.
14:32
I love that.
14:35
If you were to ask me,
14:38
who I hope is in our doors
14:40
and in our camp five years from now,
14:42
I hope that it's the exact
14:44
same athletes that we have
14:45
here right now.
14:46
And if we have the bandwidth
14:48
and the ability to add
14:49
another athlete or two,
14:51
if the fit is right, then that's great.
14:54
But I genuinely think I
14:56
would rather build the
14:57
relationship with that
14:58
athlete because every year
15:00
you work with the same athlete,
15:01
you start to really narrow
15:03
in the target on how close
15:04
you can get to optimizing
15:06
what works really well for them.
15:08
what I would not want to see
15:11
for the athletes and for
15:12
the coaches is hopping
15:14
around from coach to coach to coach.
15:16
Even if you have what you
15:17
would consider is a down year,
15:20
because in most cases,
15:22
especially with the elite
15:23
athletes that have there,
15:24
they're already at the tip of the spear,
15:26
a full, um,
15:29
flip the table over approach
15:30
for their programming may
15:31
not be the best approach
15:33
for them when in reality,
15:35
it may just be a small
15:36
adjustment here or a small
15:38
adjustment there that you
15:39
make over time over a
15:40
number of years that really
15:42
allows them to optimize
15:44
their performance and go that route.
15:46
So I think it would be better suited
15:51
if you're able to keep the
15:52
core of your team together,
15:53
just like in any pro sport,
15:55
keep the core of your team
15:56
together for as long as possible,
15:58
understanding that this is
15:59
professional sports.
16:00
Some people are going to go
16:01
and some people are going to come.
16:03
But what I want to do here,
16:06
I have no interest in this
16:08
being a rotating door of
16:09
athletes coming and going.
16:10
And I have no interest of this being
16:13
Anything more than us being
16:15
able to provide the high
16:17
level of coaching and
16:19
relationships that these
16:20
athletes need and deserve in this sport.
16:22
And we're only going to grow
16:23
this camp at the rate that
16:25
we still have the bandwidth
16:27
and the ability and the
16:28
time to still provide these
16:30
athletes with what it is
16:31
they need to be great at.
16:34
So as director of elite athletes,
16:37
is it your responsibility
16:39
to make sure that all the needs are met?
16:43
Yeah.
16:43
So it's, um, yes.
16:45
So in-house it's pretty easy to do.
16:47
I have conversations with
16:48
these guys every day and we
16:49
have a couple of teen
16:49
athletes here as well,
16:50
which has been really,
16:51
really fun to kind of build
16:52
that relationship with, uh, uh,
16:54
reuniting and getting to see Riley again.
16:56
I worked with her, uh,
16:57
years ago before she moved
16:58
to Nashville and getting to meet RJ, uh,
17:00
another really fit, talented kid here.
17:03
Um,
17:04
And then on top of that,
17:05
the athletes that we do
17:06
have that are remote,
17:07
making sure that they feel
17:11
like they are paid attention to,
17:12
that they are not out in the wind.
17:14
Because we have people all over the world.
17:16
We have Kalyan, who's a Brazilian athlete,
17:18
but he's overseas.
17:21
And then Nick Matthew and
17:23
Colton Merton and Olivia.
17:24
So it's making sure that all
17:26
those athletes do feel that
17:28
they are receiving
17:29
everything they need to
17:31
perform at their very best.
17:36
So you have athletes in your camp that...
17:41
almost mythical right and
17:44
and when I say that I'm
17:45
like Olivia and Colton
17:47
right they have gained this
17:49
big following before even
17:52
success on the floor per se
17:55
right because of Colton and
17:57
the pig farmer and the hard
17:58
work and overcoming the
18:00
height obstacle and all of
18:02
that stuff and then Olivia
18:04
this teen girl that like
18:05
can lift a house and can do
18:08
things that most teenage girls can't do.
18:11
And it grows this mythical
18:14
legend behind them.
18:16
Coming to a camp where you
18:18
have the greatest female
18:20
athlete in the history of the sport,
18:22
maybe athlete overall in the sport,
18:26
Does that help because she's
18:28
been through all that stuff
18:31
and can assist with kind of
18:34
that exposure that you get through that?
18:37
Yeah,
18:38
and just to kind of reiterate what
18:39
you said there,
18:40
would be a two-time
18:41
multi-sport Olympic athlete
18:43
if the rules for bobsled
18:44
weren't so weird for her over there.
18:46
But yeah, she's incredible.
18:48
And getting to be here and
18:49
have conversations with her and Shane,
18:52
it's been really, really...
18:54
interesting just how for
18:58
being as successful and as
19:00
dominant as she has been,
19:01
how willing to help and be
19:04
involved in conversations
19:05
and be involved in the
19:07
things that we're doing
19:08
here to want everyone else
19:10
to be better and to want
19:12
nothing but happiness and
19:15
fulfillment and longevity
19:16
in their career for everyone that's here.
19:18
It's a real genuine thing
19:21
that you get from her when it comes to
19:25
um supporting these athletes
19:26
and being available for any
19:28
questions and it I don't
19:31
think you don't know what
19:33
you're gonna get from
19:34
someone until you get to
19:35
meet them specifically
19:36
someone who's been that
19:37
dominant I've always been
19:38
someone who's thought that
19:39
um that level of dominance
19:42
Um, it's hard to have that in any,
19:44
in any endeavor in life and
19:46
still have some balance on
19:47
the other side of that of, because I mean,
19:50
you hear of other elite
19:51
athletes and other sports
19:52
that have some demons that
19:55
because the imbalance has
19:55
just been so hard,
19:56
but you don't see that from her.
20:00
It's really been a pleasure
20:02
and a joy to get to know her and, and,
20:05
and see how she,
20:06
how willing she is to be
20:08
there for every single
20:09
person in the camp.
20:11
When you say other sports with demons,
20:13
but I think we're facing it
20:15
in CrossFit right now.
20:16
Yeah.
20:17
I think we're up to 12 or 13
20:19
female athletes that
20:20
competed at the Games last
20:21
year are not competing this year.
20:24
Yes.
20:24
On the individual side.
20:27
And to have someone who has
20:30
been steady for so many
20:31
years as your mentor and
20:35
coach and whatever else
20:37
other hat she wears has got
20:39
to be a huge asset.
20:42
It is.
20:43
And what you brought up,
20:44
it's almost like an
20:48
epidemic of overstressed
20:49
athletes in our sport and
20:51
why that is happening.
20:52
And I think a big part of it
20:54
is a lot of athletes, I don't know,
20:59
it's just,
21:00
there's something about our sport.
21:01
It's such a hard sport to
21:02
train for that you have to
21:03
be able to find a balance
21:04
and enjoyment in what you do.
21:05
I think there's so much else
21:08
that you have to look at
21:09
internally in order to be able to handle
21:12
the the pressure and stress
21:14
of the daily training in
21:15
our sport and then the fact
21:16
that our athletes only kind
21:17
of like I said about the
21:18
media like our athletes get
21:20
really like these athletes
21:22
they get one weekend a year
21:24
to do their sport to
21:26
potentially make it to to
21:28
the game so that
21:29
semi-finals weekend carries
21:32
and it carries just so much
21:34
to all these people that we
21:35
have to do more work behind
21:37
the scenes in order for them to
21:40
perform free and not feel
21:42
stressed because a stressed
21:43
athlete will not perform.
21:45
It will not happen.
21:47
They're going to,
21:47
when the margins are so
21:49
narrow at these things and everyone's fit,
21:50
if you are 2% down from
21:52
where you feel you can be,
21:53
it's going to be a fight to
21:54
punch your way through.
21:55
So we do a lot of work and
21:57
have a lot of conversations
21:58
here about properly
22:00
defining success and what
22:01
it means to these athletes,
22:03
defining why they train,
22:04
defining why they compete,
22:06
And when you identify a lot of the reasons,
22:09
and it goes back to the old adage,
22:11
what's your why?
22:12
But separate that into some
22:13
more specifics.
22:14
And it gives these athletes
22:15
something to lean on so
22:17
that that stress is not so
22:20
overwhelming every single
22:21
day that they get to a
22:23
point where it's like,
22:24
they just need to step away and back off.
22:26
And it's just like,
22:27
I hate to see good people
22:31
and good athletes
22:33
feel that level of stress and pressure.
22:37
And I just want to help them
22:38
have the tools to be able
22:41
to manage it and understand
22:43
it so they can continue to
22:44
do the thing they love and
22:45
not resent the thing that
22:47
they love so much that got
22:48
them into the sport in the first place.
22:51
So two points on that.
22:53
One,
22:53
I believe this podcast is a semifinal
22:56
podcast.
22:58
We dive more into the
22:59
semifinals than anybody
23:00
else in the sport.
23:01
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
23:03
When I get to semis,
23:05
I'm a nervous wreck because
23:07
I've met all these people
23:09
and I want the best for them.
23:11
So I can't even imagine
23:13
being the person because
23:15
I'm a wreck after getting
23:16
to know them all and
23:17
hearing all their stories, right?
23:21
The other thing is you walk your talk.
23:24
And I've interviewed a lot of people.
23:27
We're at close to 1,000 episodes now.
23:31
And a lot of people say the
23:33
things you're saying right now,
23:35
but if you go to your Instagram,
23:37
when you are congratulating your athletes,
23:42
and I use that term loosely,
23:44
like Sid wins TFX,
23:47
your post was
23:48
congratulating the other two
23:50
podium athletes and not
23:52
really focusing on Sid winning.
23:55
When you made a post about Lucy,
23:59
not once did you mention
24:00
she won the games.
24:02
It was about all the other
24:03
stuff around it that you
24:04
were so proud of her about.
24:07
And so when you're not
24:09
defining success by the
24:11
finish or the podium or that,
24:14
you are truly living that creed.
24:18
Because in your own posts
24:20
and in your own life,
24:21
you're not focusing on that.
24:23
You're focusing on the person.
24:26
yeah um winning is not what
24:31
we talk about on an
24:32
everyday basis winning is
24:34
not the ultimate goal
24:35
winning is not something
24:36
that I'm going to look back
24:37
20 years from now and and
24:40
be the focus point and then
24:42
on the other side of that
24:42
coin I think it was a john
24:44
wooden quote it's like I
24:44
won't know if I've done my
24:46
job well um for another 20
24:49
years like I want these
24:50
athletes to be able to look
24:52
on back on this time in their life
24:54
and this experience that
24:55
they got to have and be
24:57
grateful and thankful that
24:58
they got the chance to do
25:00
it and just being able to
25:03
be their coach to be through it as well.
25:06
And the catch to that is if you really,
25:08
really truly buy into that
25:09
where I don't measure
25:11
success based on what the
25:12
leaderboard is at the end
25:13
of the weekend or who's at
25:14
the top of the podium,
25:16
but by all the other little
25:17
things along the way,
25:20
and how I define success for
25:21
myself and how they define
25:22
success for themselves,
25:24
by buying into that,
25:27
you will end up reaching
25:28
those big goals that you
25:29
set for yourself because it
25:30
is a freeing way to go
25:32
through life so that you
25:33
don't have this pressure and stress.
25:35
When we talk about the goals though,
25:37
and this is something that
25:38
I did pull from Ben when I was out there,
25:39
he said, when you have these big goals,
25:42
don't pretend that they're not there.
25:44
Don't pretend you don't want
25:45
to win the games.
25:46
That would be silly to
25:47
pretend that that's not in
25:48
the conversation.
25:50
but it's like, put it up on a shelf.
25:52
Like imagine you're in your
25:53
room and you have a shelf up on your room,
25:55
take that goal, put it up on the shelf,
25:57
take a look at it every once in a while,
25:59
let it guide some of the
26:00
processes and the steps
26:01
that you're going to do in
26:02
your life in order to kind
26:04
of set yourself up for that.
26:06
But it shouldn't be the
26:07
thing that's in your mirror
26:08
every day that that's
26:10
driving you because success
26:12
is so fleeting.
26:14
Like you can ask people who
26:15
have won the games.
26:17
That moment is incredible, but like,
26:19
Two weeks after,
26:20
it's just like it's not there anymore.
26:24
And you can talk to Jordan
26:25
and you hear from Kobe.
26:27
Like Kobe said, the process is the dream.
26:28
Showing up to training every single day,
26:30
that's the dream.
26:32
The success is a very cool thing,
26:34
but it's so fleeting and
26:36
it's not fulfilling at a
26:38
way that's going to really
26:40
hit you where it matters.
26:42
And if you buy into the other stuff,
26:44
you end up somehow,
26:45
some way getting closer to
26:48
that big goal that's on the
26:50
shelf up there.
26:51
And I truly, truly mean that for sure.
26:55
Well, and like I said, in the,
26:56
in the example, um,
26:58
Lucy did win the games last year.
27:00
Sid did win TFX.
27:02
Like that is a by-product of
27:05
caring about the individual
27:07
in more than just as a person to podium.
27:10
Um, yeah.
27:11
And the TFX, yeah.
27:13
And the TFX one, like, um,
27:15
giving credit to, um,
27:16
the other two athletes that were there.
27:18
Um, it's just, um, it was Casey and Abby,
27:21
like,
27:23
I want them to also know
27:24
whether or not they ever
27:25
see the post or they care at all.
27:27
They should know how fun it
27:30
is to just get on the floor and compete.
27:31
And that weekend was a competition.
27:34
They were haymakers left and right.
27:38
between those guys going for it.
27:39
So it's like,
27:40
know that just the ability to
27:42
get there and compete is
27:44
what allows you to go home
27:45
and put your head on your
27:46
pillow and go to sleep calmly.
27:47
If you're first, second, third,
27:48
whatever that ends up being,
27:50
as long as you know that you showed up,
27:52
you gave the highest effort you could,
27:53
you executed well,
27:54
and you were able to
27:55
compete and feel like yourself,
27:57
it's hard to walk away from
27:59
those things disappointed.
28:02
All right,
28:02
let's move on to something a
28:04
little bit different,
28:04
and that is you have a big week.
28:06
Proven has a big week.
28:09
You mentioned that out there,
28:11
there's chaos going on.
28:13
CrossFit is there with their
28:14
production team.
28:17
It's been a crazy week from
28:19
a shift of what they were doing.
28:21
Tia was supposed to be in it
28:23
because of the wrist injury.
28:24
She could not be there.
28:27
My first question about that
28:28
is you're in the open.
28:30
It's top 25%.
28:33
Is it more important to get
28:34
through the open healthy or
28:36
or get through it well yeah
28:40
um I think this open this
28:44
open probably more than
28:45
others has shown a very
28:46
clear in my opinion shift
28:49
in how hq views the open
28:54
the first two events have
28:55
been extra and I like it
28:57
like I think it is for the
28:58
good of the community as a
29:00
whole the first two events
29:02
from an affiliate standpoint
29:04
are so approachable and
29:06
easy to run in an affiliate
29:08
since there's been no floor plans,
29:10
no tape marks,
29:10
like it is no different
29:12
than you just setting up your classes.
29:14
You normally would.
29:15
It's kind of like when it was the old five,
29:16
um,
29:16
five workout open days where there was
29:18
no floor plans and you can just go at it.
29:22
And the movements have been extremely, um,
29:26
user friendly, um,
29:27
where you have just the
29:28
burpees and the dumbbell
29:29
snatch and week one.
29:30
You have the row, deadlift,
29:32
and double unders.
29:33
So you introduce a little
29:34
skill with the double unders,
29:35
but it's in a fashion where
29:37
people can work through a
29:39
set if they don't have them
29:40
to still kind of get a workout in.
29:43
And then this week,
29:44
I'm guessing that we'll see
29:46
some more skills introduced.
29:49
I mean,
29:50
I feel like you have to hang from
29:51
something in the open at
29:52
some point in order to have
29:54
this be the first
29:56
qualification stage of the games.
29:58
But I genuinely think that
30:00
the way it's been set up,
30:01
this is the leaderboard.
30:03
I know we just talked about
30:04
the leaderboard placement
30:05
is a lot less important.
30:08
This open it feels than it
30:09
has been in previous ones
30:12
with the quarterfinals.
30:14
if the programming for
30:15
quarterfinals stays similar
30:16
to how it has been in the past,
30:16
that is a clear delineation.
30:18
Like the quarterfinal
30:18
workouts are no joke.
30:21
That is where you see the loading,
30:24
the skill,
30:24
the volume get to a point where
30:27
what makes those athletes
30:29
special starts to get on display.
30:31
So it really, really is about
30:33
just feeling good about
30:35
giving a good effort,
30:36
getting some practice
30:38
videoing your stuff
30:39
properly for quarterfinals
30:41
and just getting through the open clean.
30:43
You train through the open
30:44
and you get yourself ready for quarters.
30:47
And healthy.
30:49
Yes.
30:49
Healthy.
30:50
Yeah.
30:50
So like in for Tia's example, it's like,
30:52
um, it really is just that.
30:54
Will she be able to do the workout,
30:56
whatever it is?
30:57
I'm sure she will.
30:58
Would she have been able to
31:00
do it at the level that she
31:01
holds herself to in the, uh, and, and,
31:05
and like feel confident
31:06
enough to give the show
31:07
that she would want to give
31:09
and compete on the floor?
31:11
like probably not to what
31:13
the standard she holds herself.
31:14
So it's really just about
31:16
take a few extra days,
31:17
probably get to Sunday or Monday,
31:19
give the wrist a few more days.
31:21
Um,
31:21
and then just be able to kind of do the
31:22
workout, get through it healthy.
31:24
Um, I have an athlete.
31:25
So Lucy, you mentioned earlier, um,
31:28
for anyone that is follows her, um,
31:30
she had,
31:31
she was 15th in the world in week one, um,
31:33
in the world, like absolutely smashed it.
31:35
Um,
31:35
and then had a massive drop off in week
31:37
two and it's because she's sick.
31:39
But the good news is, um,
31:41
We only need to get her in the top 25%,
31:43
which she'll be able to do
31:44
as sick as she is right now,
31:47
just to get a score on the board.
31:48
We're just talking.
31:49
The whole idea is just get her healthy,
31:50
so that way she feels good
31:51
going into quarters as well.
31:53
Yeah, and so before I jump to quarters,
31:56
because I think there's
31:57
some important questions there.
32:01
So this week,
32:03
I talked about this with Ariel.
32:06
It's really an honor to be
32:08
picked to do a CrossFit announcement.
32:10
Yeah.
32:11
And Ariel kind of expanded that by saying,
32:14
it's really important to be
32:15
the last week.
32:16
Like that's where they let
32:17
the legends come in.
32:18
And, you know, she,
32:20
she referenced when rich
32:22
and Sam and Annie and all
32:24
the champions went together
32:26
in one announcement,
32:29
although it wasn't initially planned,
32:31
Sydney and Jay get an
32:33
opportunity to do an,
32:34
a CrossFit open announcement.
32:37
Jay said,
32:38
came on the scene in a ball
32:40
of fire last year and has
32:44
proven in the offseason he
32:46
is someone to contend with.
32:48
Yeah.
32:49
And this could be a nice
32:50
spotlight for him.
32:51
With Sydney, you know, in all honesty,
32:53
she's been in her sister's
32:54
shadows for a long time,
32:56
but she made the games last year.
32:57
Brooke did not.
32:59
And it's an opportunity for
33:01
her to show her stuff on a big stage.
33:05
As the director of elite athletes,
33:07
how do you feel for your
33:09
athletes getting this opportunity?
33:11
I'm psyched.
33:12
I'm so psyched.
33:12
Like I mentioned earlier,
33:13
it's like a home game in a
33:14
sport where they're going
33:15
to be able to do this in
33:16
their own comfort and their
33:17
own affiliate with their coaches around.
33:19
And talking about those two,
33:21
Jay is a gnarly fit dude.
33:23
He's always been a fit guy.
33:25
But when he connected with Shane,
33:28
they're...
33:30
Something agreed really well
33:32
with that relationship and
33:34
with Shane's ability to
33:35
kind of work with him where
33:37
he was able to show what he can really,
33:40
really do last year.
33:41
And the dude is fit.
33:42
And you can see it.
33:43
I know I said the open
33:44
leaderboard is not that important,
33:45
but the scores he's put up
33:46
in the open so far
33:48
Again, it shows.
33:49
He is a fit dude and I'm
33:51
very excited for the rest
33:52
of the world to get to see
33:55
him do his thing in the spotlight.
33:57
Then from a person standpoint,
33:59
he's the sweetest man.
34:01
I don't think I've ever seen
34:03
him not smile.
34:04
He's just such a nice,
34:06
awesome person that I hope
34:07
that also comes through in
34:09
the interviews and the
34:10
performance and people
34:11
watching him do his thing
34:12
because he deserves to be
34:13
up there for sure.
34:15
Sydney Wells, you mentioned it.
34:22
Yes,
34:22
Brooke was here for a long time and
34:24
Brooke was here first and
34:25
Brooke has had a ton of success.
34:28
She's going to go down as
34:29
one of the legends of the
34:30
sport for as long as she's
34:31
been around and the success
34:32
that she's had and the
34:33
impact that she's had on the floor.
34:35
But Sydney is crazy fit.
34:38
From the outside looking in
34:40
until I get to see it every day,
34:42
I saw her at semifinals a
34:43
little bit last year,
34:44
but it wasn't my focus,
34:45
so I didn't get a really
34:46
good chance to see what was going on.
34:48
The girls fit, man.
34:50
She is no joke.
34:51
You do not accidentally
34:54
qualify for the CrossFit
34:55
Games this day and age.
34:57
There is no accidental
34:58
qualifying for the Games.
35:00
She puts in the work every day.
35:01
Her and Sid McAlishan have a
35:04
great relationship here,
35:05
and they push each other every day,
35:06
and it's fun to see Sid Wells
35:09
get out there,
35:10
do her thing on the stage
35:12
and be able to show that like, no,
35:15
it's not a fluke that she
35:16
made it last year.
35:16
She is the real deal.
35:18
You don't get handed a game
35:19
spot unless you earn it.
35:22
I completely agree.
35:24
We were privileged enough to
35:25
do her first-ever podcast.
35:27
She's an amazing individual.
35:30
And watching her at semis,
35:31
if you look at the way she has performed,
35:34
she has one hole.
35:36
She has one hole that gets her every year.
35:38
And other than that,
35:39
her performances are top-notch.
35:43
She is super fit.
35:45
a hundred percent and what
35:46
she did last year is one of
35:48
the most we're actually
35:49
talking about it earlier uh
35:50
today one of the most
35:51
impressive things I've ever
35:52
seen I don't think you'll
35:53
ever see it happen at a
35:54
semi-final again where um
35:56
she had the issue in the
35:57
ruck ring muscle-ups last
35:58
year which placed her so
35:59
far down on the leaderboard
36:01
to then keep her wits about
36:03
her for the remainder of
36:03
that weekend and not let that one event
36:06
crush her come back win an
36:08
event later in the
36:09
semi-final and like get
36:12
herself in there and she
36:12
wasn't the last person to
36:13
qualify like she was in
36:15
there so it it was a
36:18
testament to her ability as
36:19
a competitor um and she's
36:21
been competing for a long
36:21
time she was a d1 track athlete like
36:24
She knows what she's doing.
36:25
And again,
36:26
I'm psyched to see her and see
36:28
Jay in the spotlight,
36:30
be able to throw down.
36:32
It's cool that Roman's a fit dude.
36:34
I'm excited to see Jay get a
36:36
chance to do it next to him.
36:38
And Ariel's a total absolute
36:40
badass and just one of the
36:42
nicest people in the space
36:43
that you'll ever meet.
36:44
And her husband is just a
36:45
cool dude as well.
36:46
So it's a really nice group
36:48
that we have here to do this.
36:50
And we're lucky to get to
36:51
host the whole thing.
36:53
Last comment, and it's just about Jay.
36:55
A lot of people have come to
36:58
the games and had a good year.
37:01
What Jay did to back it up
37:02
at Rogue proved to me that
37:04
he's not going anywhere.
37:07
He is here to stay, and he's still young.
37:10
yeah he's the real deal and
37:12
and not to mention like
37:13
he's in town he'll be here
37:14
through quarters um maddie
37:16
sturt also um who's been in
37:18
the space for a long time
37:19
the four-time games athlete
37:20
I think um is looking fit
37:23
too and they train together
37:24
and she's in town as well
37:25
so it's just like we've got
37:27
a really really good thing
37:28
going here and all of the
37:29
elite athletes that we have
37:31
on our team that we get the
37:31
chance to work with and
37:32
even some of our
37:33
developmental athletes that
37:34
I know that are going to be
37:35
in semis that I've built
37:35
relationships with this year it's like
37:37
We're really lucky with the
37:40
feel of the people that we have here,
37:42
and we couldn't be happier.
37:45
So I'm going to move on to
37:46
your core athletes that you
37:48
had at Comtrain,
37:50
which was Sidney McElishan,
37:52
Caroline Stanley, and Lucy McGonigal.
37:55
Yep.
37:56
All three followed you to Proven, correct?
37:59
They did.
38:00
Lucky me.
38:01
So...
38:03
that says a lot about your
38:05
coaching ability and the
38:06
relationships that you
38:07
build with your athletes
38:09
that they were willing to pick up where,
38:11
I mean,
38:12
Sydney moved from Boston to
38:14
Nashville to come with you.
38:18
What does that mean to you
38:19
to see your athletes that
38:21
dedicated to you as a coach?
38:23
It's awesome.
38:24
It like, it truly means the world.
38:26
And I tell them, I was like, like,
38:28
they're gonna have to get
38:30
rid of me like I'm in this
38:31
with them for the long haul
38:33
and I told sid from day one
38:34
I was like imagine and I've
38:35
told this to caroline and
38:36
lucy like I hope that in 10
38:38
years we're still doing
38:40
this together because if in
38:41
10 years we're still doing
38:42
this together that means
38:43
we've done some pretty dope
38:44
stuff along the way and for
38:45
them to still to like have
38:47
that level of confidence to
38:49
to want to keep this thing
38:50
going and and feel
38:52
comfortable and confident in
38:55
what I can do for them and
38:56
how much I'm invested in
38:58
them um is so so cool and
39:00
for sid to like you said
39:02
like she picked up um like
39:04
she had established like
39:05
some really close friends
39:06
and relationships um when
39:09
we were up there um and for
39:10
her to basically say um
39:14
yeah wherever you go I go
39:15
um it's just like as a
39:17
coach and especially coming
39:20
off how the season went
39:21
last year where it's so easy
39:24
And it happens where other
39:26
coaches and other camps are
39:28
going to see that as a sign
39:29
and an opportunity to poach
39:32
an athlete away.
39:33
And those things tried to happen.
39:37
And for her to still have
39:38
that level of confidence in
39:39
what we're doing and what
39:40
we're building and the
39:41
relationship that we've had,
39:42
it means everything.
39:45
everything to me.
39:46
And that is a really big
39:48
measure of my success as a coach.
39:50
And then the fun part on the
39:52
side is the stuff that
39:54
happens on the floor.
39:55
But yeah, Caroline, Lucy, Sid, they rock.
40:00
We're going to be doing this
40:00
together for a very, very long time,
40:02
I hope.
40:03
And like I told them,
40:03
they're going to have to
40:04
get rid of me because I'm
40:05
in this for the long haul.
40:07
So I'm going to go down
40:08
through a couple of things
40:09
with each athlete that you
40:11
brought with you.
40:12
And we talked about Sid winning TFX,
40:15
which was a nice bounce
40:17
back for her after this,
40:19
because we followed her all last season.
40:20
I know podcast.
40:23
And, and it was,
40:24
it was heartbreaking at semis.
40:27
And so it was really good to
40:29
see her get a win just,
40:32
just for confidence purposes and,
40:34
But I was scrolling through
40:35
Instagram today,
40:36
and I'm going to share a
40:37
screen real quick.
40:39
She made a post.
40:41
The knock on her has always
40:42
been her running ability.
40:45
She made a post today.
40:46
I'm going to bring it up here.
40:49
Of her running on an air runner.
40:51
Yeah.
40:54
And more than the speed, it's the form.
40:58
Yeah.
40:59
Like the form has completely changed.
41:01
And it got me so excited
41:03
about her season coming up.
41:06
You as her coach,
41:07
are you seeing the same thing?
41:09
Oh my God.
41:10
Yeah.
41:10
So this has been,
41:12
so this is what you get
41:15
when you're able to invest
41:17
the time in an athlete and
41:18
you build that relationship
41:19
and the coach and athletes stay together.
41:21
This has been something that
41:23
has been in the works.
41:24
This is our third year
41:25
working together now for years.
41:29
So completely rewire the way
41:31
an athlete runs and they do
41:33
it under fatigue,
41:34
what you're seeing here.
41:35
It's easy in drills.
41:35
Like we can drill this thing out.
41:38
But you look at her landing
41:39
position on the side,
41:39
but it's like that midfoot
41:41
like landing position,
41:42
the ability to pull through,
41:44
like it's awesome.
41:46
She has spent so much time at the track.
41:49
We are there all the time.
41:50
Like this has been a focus
41:51
and it just takes time for
41:53
these things to really
41:54
click so that you don't
41:55
have to think about it.
41:57
And this video is awesome
41:58
because this is under fatigue.
42:00
These are hard interval
42:01
repeats that she's doing
42:02
and she's still able to
42:03
maintain that form under
42:05
that type of fatigue.
42:06
This is one of like,
42:08
lifts are cool.
42:09
This was awesome.
42:13
And lifts have never been her problem.
42:17
No.
42:17
Yeah.
42:19
She is a,
42:21
she is a crazy strong and powerful lady.
42:26
The sandbag event,
42:27
the sandbag ladder where she got fourth,
42:29
I think that you're like, she is a,
42:31
she will always be a strong lady.
42:34
What's making her extremely
42:35
special and more dangerous now is
42:37
We're bringing the other
42:38
things up to match what she's really,
42:40
really good at.
42:42
And if the thing she's good
42:43
at just stays here and we
42:44
bring up the floor on just
42:45
these other things,
42:46
she's a different athlete.
42:47
And this is such a cool example of that.
42:49
She has worked so hard on her running.
42:53
This was so cool to see.
42:55
After following her last year,
42:56
I will always be one of her biggest fans.
42:58
And I'm so stoked to see this season.
43:03
So if we move on to Caroline Stanley...
43:06
Because we're running low on time.
43:07
Every time I talk to you,
43:08
time just flies by.
43:10
It does.
43:14
So maybe we need to make
43:14
this a more frequent occurrence.
43:18
I'm good, man.
43:20
Caroline Stanley makes it to
43:22
the games her first year
43:23
ever last year and finishes
43:26
at least through one cut.
43:29
That has to be a huge win for a rookie.
43:32
Yeah, for sure.
43:34
That relationship and that experience.
43:37
Yeah, it's been pretty cool.
43:38
So with Caroline,
43:40
we were put in touch by a
43:43
third party person who
43:44
owned an affiliate that she
43:45
was working out at.
43:46
Caroline had been to Semis a
43:47
couple of years and was
43:49
around the same spot both times,
43:51
wasn't able to crack through.
43:52
They reached out, we got in touch.
43:54
started working out working
43:55
together um and it was just
43:57
great like she's she's such
43:59
a really just genuine
44:00
down-to-earth person and a
44:02
lot of it just has to do
44:03
like her family is great um
44:05
like they now they own this
44:07
massive farm like this
44:08
cattle farm that she works
44:10
on and everything but she's
44:13
uh great and then what you
44:14
said at the games like the
44:16
cuts at the games
44:18
um,
44:18
regardless what your opinion is on them.
44:20
And we could probably talk
44:20
about that in another episode, um,
44:23
is that when you get there,
44:24
that is the fear.
44:25
It's like,
44:25
you want to be able to take the
44:26
whole test.
44:27
You train all year.
44:28
You want to get to the games.
44:29
You're like,
44:29
I want to take every test that
44:30
they can throw at me possible,
44:32
no matter what it is.
44:33
But the catch is the last few years,
44:34
like you gotta be able to
44:35
get there to be able to do them.
44:37
So she went into the final
44:40
event of day two for, um, Helena, um,
44:43
um in like 31st or just on
44:45
the outside looking in
44:47
knowing that she needed to
44:48
do her thing in order to
44:49
get herself to the next day
44:50
to buy three more events to
44:51
be able to showcase her
44:52
stuff a little bit more um
44:54
she's one of the most
44:55
competitive people I've
44:56
ever met in my life um and
44:59
when she stepped out onto
45:01
the floor for that event um
45:02
I knew we were going to be
45:04
in good hands and she
45:04
chased down someone in that
45:05
third round and was able to
45:06
pull ahead so it was
45:08
Last year was really cool
45:09
getting to experience that
45:11
for the first time with her at semis,
45:14
seeing her experience it
45:15
through the games.
45:16
She's a fitter version of
45:17
herself this year,
45:18
and she's a more experienced athlete now,
45:20
which for her is really,
45:21
really dangerous for everyone else.
45:24
So the crazy thing for her
45:25
is she's in the East,
45:28
which is murderer's row if
45:30
you're a female athlete.
45:31
We hear about all these
45:32
people that are not competing this year.
45:34
Only one of them is from the East.
45:38
Right.
45:38
The East is not changing.
45:41
She made it through there
45:42
last year and it was murderers row then.
45:44
Yeah.
45:46
One,
45:46
how did that experience help her to
45:48
get to the game or get her at the games?
45:50
And this year,
45:51
do you just kind of put that
45:54
aside and just you against you?
45:56
Yeah.
45:58
The margins are so narrow at
46:00
any competition you go to,
46:01
whether it is TFX or semifinals, um,
46:04
the the names that you see
46:06
at east is that kind of
46:07
murderer's row type of
46:09
thing but at the same time like you
46:12
you never are competing
46:13
against someone else in the field.
46:15
As weird as that sounds,
46:16
like you each have your own lane.
46:17
It's not like football or basketball,
46:19
or like you can impede the
46:20
progress of the person next to you.
46:21
It's like,
46:22
it's silly to think that you could, you,
46:26
can you imagine full contact crossfit?
46:28
Someone goes three lanes down,
46:29
throws a dumbbell out of the way.
46:31
But yeah, so it's like,
46:32
you have to just go there
46:33
and do your thing.
46:34
And last year with Caroline, we knew that,
46:39
what she potentially was
46:40
gonna do I remember telling
46:42
someone I think it was like
46:42
patrick clark I was like
46:43
she's gonna go there and
46:44
she's gonna she's gonna
46:45
ruin someone's weekend that
46:46
doesn't know it yet because
46:47
I know what she's bringing
46:49
to this competition and the
46:50
good what's kind of cool is
46:52
like I still don't think
46:53
anyone knows anything about
46:55
her or who she is or what
46:57
she's capable of to to show
46:59
up to this thing and when
47:01
she's going to compete it
47:02
really just is like she's
47:03
going to be on the floor
47:04
Her and I from a coach competitor,
47:06
a coach athlete standpoint
47:08
of how we manage these
47:09
weekends and the ups and
47:10
downs of these things is
47:12
better than it was last year.
47:14
So like her ability to show
47:16
up and compete on the floor.
47:18
is one of the better
47:19
athletes I've seen she will
47:21
always compete something
47:23
better than she trains it
47:24
she is a a ptp or a
47:26
primetime player she shows
47:28
up under the lights and
47:28
gets the job done so in
47:30
this murderer's row of the
47:32
east I promise you she's
47:33
going to be kind of thought
47:34
about at the back end of
47:36
that that talent list when
47:38
in reality like no she's
47:40
right square in the middle
47:41
of it and she has home run
47:43
potential which is always
47:44
dangerous in a semi-final
47:47
not every day I get to hear
47:48
a dickie v reference in the
47:49
middle of a podcast man I
47:53
listened to so much dick
47:54
vital when I was growing up
47:55
calling terps basketball
47:56
games terps versus duke in
47:58
carolina oh that's why I
48:01
love having you on um
48:04
So let's move on to Lucy.
48:08
Lucy is a teen athlete.
48:11
If you were not paying
48:12
attention at the games last year,
48:14
you missed one hell of a
48:16
competition in the 16,
48:18
17-year-old division with
48:20
Lucy and Trista.
48:22
yeah and Lucy prevailed um
48:26
she competed in Europe last
48:28
year at the semifinals
48:30
probably another murderers
48:31
row of athletes um she's
48:35
gonna have to come out of
48:36
that region again this year
48:37
uh and she's so young so
48:42
how do you like
48:43
realistically set
48:45
expectations for her going
48:47
into semis this year
48:49
Yeah.
48:49
So last year semis was, um,
48:52
zero expectations.
48:53
So that was the last semifinal of, uh,
48:56
the final weekend of
48:57
semifinals last year.
48:58
We had got to watch everyone else go.
49:00
So we went into that, um, just like, Hey,
49:03
I want you to just get used
49:04
to being in the warmup area
49:06
and seeing Annie Thor's
49:07
daughter warming up next to
49:09
you and Gabby Magala and Laura,
49:11
like just get used to being
49:13
there and seeing that these
49:14
athletes are in the same
49:15
competition that you're in.
49:17
Um,
49:18
that was it it was like just
49:19
go there have some fun and
49:21
let's just get some
49:22
competition experience in
49:24
that stage we learned a ton
49:27
I didn't over strategize
49:28
anything for I let her go
49:29
out there take some swings
49:30
when she wanted to and it
49:32
was just a really cool
49:32
experience by the end of
49:34
the weekend to go through
49:36
that with her um
49:38
semi-finals this year the
49:39
goal is just to be able to
49:41
go and compete um I want
49:45
her to be able to go there
49:46
and have this more of a
49:48
of an experience like we
49:49
treated the games last year, where it is,
49:51
hey,
49:52
this is how we want to handle this thing.
49:53
This is how we want to go in this.
49:55
This is going to be our
49:57
if she qualifies through there, it's like,
49:59
we're able to go there and
50:00
feel like we are competing
50:02
the whole time.
50:02
Not necessarily that we are
50:04
just along for the ride.
50:06
However,
50:07
that works out at the end of the
50:08
weekend is irrelevant.
50:09
I mean, if she cracks through,
50:10
I wouldn't be surprised.
50:12
It would be cool.
50:12
If not also really doesn't
50:14
matter at this point,
50:15
like the runway on her
50:17
career is so long that we're really just,
50:20
picking up experience points
50:21
along the way.
50:22
But I can tell you that it's
50:24
gonna be a mindset approach
50:26
where she's gonna show up
50:27
to try and compete this year,
50:28
have some fun.
50:30
We're gonna take measured
50:31
risks this year and have a
50:33
little bit more of a dialed
50:35
approach of how we wanna handle this.
50:37
um and go that route and a
50:38
quick backstop that 1670
50:40
division with her interest
50:41
last year was probably the
50:42
best race of the games like
50:45
and I know tristan and her
50:46
family from years ago a
50:47
comp train before they
50:48
moved up with uh with adam
50:49
and them um it was awesome
50:52
to watch that was so fun
50:54
yeah yeah if you don't if
50:56
you're not paying attention
50:57
to the age groups you're
50:58
missing out on a lot there
51:00
are some good runs in the age groups
51:02
There are.
51:03
And we were there for all of it,
51:06
and it was so much fun to be there.
51:07
But shoot, I lost my track.
51:12
So you have these three
51:13
athletes all last year.
51:14
And even with three athletes,
51:16
you have to go to the East.
51:18
You have to go to the West.
51:20
You have to go to Europe
51:21
three weeks in a row.
51:23
And you're kind of on the
51:24
run for three weeks of your
51:26
life during semis.
51:28
This year,
51:29
you're now at proven over all
51:31
elite athletes.
51:33
So how do you keep balance?
51:36
And now you're over so many
51:38
more athletes than the
51:40
three you had last year.
51:41
Yeah, so I'm really,
51:43
really lucky with the
51:44
coaching team that we have
51:46
under this proven banner.
51:48
So the obvious ones are myself, Dwight,
51:51
and Shane, who are in-house here.
51:55
The good news is our CEO,
51:56
like get you a CEO that can do both.
51:58
Like he was a coach for
51:59
years before he stepped out
52:00
of that role and into this role.
52:02
So we have Nick that is able
52:04
to step in and be a
52:05
world-class coach for some
52:07
of these athletes if and when needed.
52:09
our remote coaches that we
52:11
have now we have tim
52:11
paulson who is a remote
52:12
coach who I don't know if I
52:14
need to introduce him to
52:15
anyone we have joey totoro
52:17
who has been a coach in
52:18
this space and an athlete
52:19
for a very long time as
52:20
well he was a coach with
52:21
brute for a long time he
52:22
was a team athlete is one
52:24
of my favorite people in the space
52:27
Joey is awesome.
52:30
He has been paired up with Colton.
52:31
I'm telling you,
52:32
I couldn't have found a
52:33
better match for two people
52:34
to be on this ride and this
52:36
journey together with him
52:37
being paired with Colton.
52:38
It's been awesome so far.
52:40
A lot of the structure and
52:44
calmness that Colton is
52:45
getting out of this season
52:46
now and his ability to just
52:47
show up and train is because of Joey.
52:50
Joey gets it.
52:53
It's been such a good match.
52:55
Then on top of that, a coach that
52:57
probably is one of the one
53:01
of the best coaches in this
53:03
space that has been around
53:03
for a long time that I
53:04
don't think anyone knows
53:05
about because it's just not
53:06
in his nature it's dave
53:07
charbonneau who um prior to
53:09
being with us was had his
53:10
own programming company
53:11
with tim forged by zeus so
53:13
between the three coaches
53:15
we have here nick the three
53:18
remote coaches that we have um the
53:21
The bench of coaches we have
53:23
here is about as deep as
53:24
you could possibly find anywhere,
53:26
all of our athletes.
53:30
reap the benefits of that so that not,
53:32
and this is what I talked about earlier.
53:34
We're not going to grow this
53:35
camp any more than we have
53:36
the ability and the
53:37
bandwidth to provide for
53:38
the athletes that we're coaching.
53:39
We have the coaches to back
53:41
that up so that when all
53:43
these coaches go to these
53:44
different places, um,
53:46
they're going to have
53:47
support of a coach on their bag, um,
53:50
in order to help them
53:51
through these things.
53:51
So while I will be, um,
53:55
collecting some flyer miles
53:57
again this year um I will
53:58
not be alone in in any of
54:00
this by any means um so I i
54:03
couldn't be luckier to have
54:04
the coaches that we have to
54:04
back this whole thing up
54:07
just one sidebar question
54:08
for you is sid gonna be in
54:09
the west again this year
54:11
she will be yes okay
54:13
So yeah, you're,
54:14
you're split up all over the place again.
54:16
Last year's travel was
54:17
gnarly cause it went East West Europe.
54:20
Thanks for that HQ.
54:21
So I went East, I went Orlando,
54:23
I went home for two days to see my wife,
54:25
went West, um,
54:27
caught the flight from LA
54:29
straight to Berlin,
54:30
flew right over Boston
54:31
cause that would have just
54:32
been silly to stop there for a night.
54:34
Um, to do that.
54:34
I think the flow of it works
54:36
out better this year.
54:36
I think it goes to Europe, East West,
54:39
I think.
54:40
Um,
54:41
but regardless it should be
54:43
a little smoother.
54:44
But I,
54:45
I need to make sure I stop home in
54:47
between these things because I got,
54:50
my wife's got a baby to do
54:51
within like the next two weeks.
54:52
So I'm going to be, I got a lot going on,
54:54
man.
54:56
Wow.
54:57
Yeah.
54:57
I can't even make,
54:58
cause I did the first two legs with you.
54:59
Yeah.
55:00
It was, it was that third leg.
55:02
I begged, I bagged out.
55:04
I saw a few people at all three.
55:06
I think Kotler was off.
55:07
I know Kotler wasn't at East.
55:08
I don't think, but I think Jake Marconi,
55:11
was my travel buddy with me.
55:13
I saw him all over the world
55:14
when we were doing it last year.
55:17
After he cut his hair,
55:19
I barely recognize him.
55:22
It was interesting.
55:25
I think he said he had his
55:25
hair that long for so long
55:28
and he finally cut it.
55:29
But no, the guy's handsome.
55:30
He's sharp.
55:30
He's a fit dude.
55:32
Oh, yeah.
55:32
Still a good-looking dude.
55:33
I just didn't know who he was.
55:35
Exactly.
55:37
So this is way off the topic,
55:40
but I'm going here because
55:42
I think it's cool,
55:43
and we only have five minutes left.
55:46
I was looking at your Instagram,
55:48
and you are chasing an ultramarathon.
55:54
Yeah,
55:55
I'm giving it... I've had two attempts,
55:59
but yeah, I...
56:01
I like to,
56:01
so the thing that attracted me
56:03
to CrossFit was this thing.
56:04
It's like,
56:04
no one else is going to do it
56:05
because it's so hard.
56:06
And that was like the thing
56:07
that attracts a lot of us to it's like,
56:08
this is harder than
56:09
anything I've ever done.
56:10
I want to do it because I
56:11
know no one else is going to do it.
56:13
And then one night, a couple of years ago,
56:16
I went down this rabbit hole
56:18
of trail running
56:19
documentaries in 2019 or
56:21
something like that.
56:22
I was like, this is gnarly.
56:23
This is hard.
56:25
I want to give this a shot.
56:27
I've had two attempts.
56:28
The first one,
56:29
I tweaked my leg at mile 55
56:33
and had to withdraw.
56:35
Then I did another one up in
56:36
Massachusetts where the
56:38
weather and the fog,
56:39
I got lost off course and
56:41
had to pull out from a time
56:42
cap at mile 35 or 39 or
56:43
something like that.
56:46
Yeah,
56:46
there's another one in Tennessee that
56:48
I'm eyeing up in October.
56:49
So maybe I'll get it done there.
56:52
But, yeah,
56:52
trying to get one of these
56:53
100-mile races done.
56:54
But I absolutely love the solitude of it,
56:56
the training for it.
56:57
It's a really,
56:58
really cool discipline that
56:59
I've had a lot of fun
56:59
messing around with.
57:02
So how does it work?
57:04
Like you have to get through
57:05
gates or you're pulled from the course?
57:08
Yeah,
57:09
so the most recent one they'll have –
57:12
like basically you have to
57:12
get to a certain aid
57:13
station at a certain time in order to,
57:15
it's kind of like having a time cap.
57:16
So each aid station has a time cap.
57:19
And I think it was like, uh, I don't know.
57:21
It was like 1230 or 1am and
57:24
it was this torrential downpour fog.
57:26
I'm going through the, the,
57:27
the mountains of Massachusetts,
57:29
like up a ski slope.
57:31
And by the time I got down,
57:32
I think it took me 50
57:33
minutes to complete one
57:34
mile cause I just couldn't
57:35
find the course anymore.
57:36
And then, Oh, there I am.
57:37
Yeah, that was dope.
57:38
The mid state massive.
57:39
Um,
57:41
It was a really cool experience.
57:43
As you can see,
57:43
the weather was absolutely
57:44
beautiful for a New England fall day.
57:46
It was really cool.
57:50
I've really enjoyed it.
57:51
Since I moved here,
57:52
I've been trying to find
57:54
some training spots to get it done.
57:57
It's a really, really fun community.
58:01
It's really, really cool.
58:03
it's just, it's a lot of fun.
58:05
I've enjoyed,
58:05
I can't wait to kind of dive
58:06
back into it again.
58:07
And now I know that my time
58:08
is going to be a lot less
58:09
with the kid on the way, but I'm going to,
58:10
I'm going to figure out my wife.
58:12
She,
58:12
she keeps telling me I have to finish
58:13
it as well.
58:14
So I'm going to have to get
58:14
one of these things done.
58:16
Uh, Kenneth says starvation,
58:18
try question mark.
58:20
Starvation try.
58:20
Are you Kenneth?
58:21
Are you telling me to do a
58:22
triathlon without eating any food?
58:25
So I've done it.
58:25
I've done a, uh, uh,
58:27
an Ironman before in 2019.
58:29
That was kind of my first, uh,
58:32
uh,
58:32
exploration into a long endurance sports.
58:35
Um, and that was dope.
58:35
That was really, really fun.
58:36
I enjoyed that.
58:37
And I think that's kind of what like, uh,
58:39
started scratching the itch
58:40
for me that found me into these,
58:42
these trail runs.
58:43
But, um, now it's been cool.
58:44
And on the side note of just
58:46
kind of bring it full circle, um,
58:48
I love diving into these disciplines.
58:50
I think there was a time I
58:51
went like a year and a half
58:52
where I just Olympic
58:53
weightlifted and then like
58:54
dove into that hard.
58:55
So I learned that discipline a lot better.
58:58
Endurance sports.
58:58
I have a really good
59:00
understanding on running endurance sports,
59:01
fueling, all of that stuff.
59:03
So all of these things,
59:04
I'm basically a human lab
59:06
to myself so that I can
59:07
then pull some of these things,
59:08
these high takeaways for
59:09
the athletes at the end of the day.
59:10
So it's fun for me to chase
59:12
some stuff and then come
59:13
here and help them as well.
59:17
Corey says, dude, that sounds terrible.
59:20
I'll tell you why.
59:23
It's really exciting at first.
59:25
you it gets really hard at
59:27
one point um and then from
59:30
what I understand since I
59:31
haven't got there yet once
59:32
you get to sunrise the next
59:34
day because you basically
59:34
start at like 7 or 8 a.m
59:36
one in the morning one day
59:38
most of these races have
59:39
like a 31 to a 34 hour time
59:42
cap overall so you go the
59:44
entire day that's pretty
59:45
cool you get to night time
59:47
you have to turn your headlamp on um
59:50
it's equally, um,
59:52
some demons and like some,
59:53
like your head goes a bunch
59:54
of different ways,
59:55
but it's also equally
59:57
incredibly peaceful to have
59:58
the solitude of just this
1:00:01
one head beam of light is
1:00:03
the only thing that guides your,
1:00:04
your path as you go through.
1:00:06
Um, and then from what I understand,
1:00:07
I'll let you know,
1:00:08
hopefully next time when
1:00:09
you get the sunrise,
1:00:10
you probably get this gnarly,
1:00:12
just adrenaline rush of
1:00:13
finally seeing the sun
1:00:14
again and getting the warmth of the sun.
1:00:16
So, um,
1:00:17
it's pretty cool man and
1:00:18
plus you get all kinds of
1:00:19
new gear I got a crossfit
1:00:20
also because I like buying
1:00:21
a lot of gear so I got like
1:00:22
the vest you saw I got
1:00:23
these gnarly shoes so it's
1:00:25
it's really fun and if the
1:00:27
100 is one version of that
1:00:29
um a 50k is a 32 mile run
1:00:31
you can that is way more
1:00:33
approachable I know it
1:00:34
doesn't sound like but
1:00:35
trust me on a lot of these
1:00:36
trails you're not running
1:00:36
the whole time anyway guys
1:00:37
as long as you just keep
1:00:38
moving forward you're going
1:00:39
to be just fine so corey
1:00:40
give it a shot man
1:00:42
Corey's response,
1:00:44
34-hour time cap sounds like, oh, no,
1:00:46
thank you.
1:00:48
I'll tell you what else it does, Corey.
1:00:49
Your 20-minute AMRAP is
1:00:51
going to seem like a lot
1:00:52
less time all of a sudden.
1:00:53
It changes the perspective
1:00:54
of what a long workout actually is.
1:00:58
Corey looks fit, too.
1:01:00
What's that?
1:01:01
Corey looked fit.
1:01:02
I was looking at the picture he has there.
1:01:03
He looks way fitter than I am.
1:01:04
So he loves you.
1:01:07
He had been with CompTrain.
1:01:09
His affiliate had been with
1:01:10
CompTrain for a while.
1:01:12
So he's been following you
1:01:13
for a long time.
1:01:13
I actually know Corey pretty well.
1:01:15
Oh, hell yeah.
1:01:17
He has a goal to make the
1:01:19
games when he turns 50.
1:01:22
Oh, let's go, Corey.
1:01:22
How old is he now?
1:01:23
46 or 47.
1:01:27
Oh, that's dope.
1:01:27
Yeah.
1:01:28
So he sounds like, I love that.
1:01:29
So my,
1:01:30
my CrossFit ultimate goal real quick here,
1:01:33
I'm just going to try and
1:01:34
outlast everybody.
1:01:35
I know right now there is no
1:01:36
chance I'm hitting it.
1:01:37
I've seen some,
1:01:38
some graphs where like the
1:01:39
age 40 age group is where
1:01:40
you get a little bit of a drop off.
1:01:42
So if I just stay as fit as
1:01:44
I am with my numbers, when I'm 60,
1:01:46
I think I'm going to be
1:01:47
able to slide my way in there.
1:01:48
But Corey, man,
1:01:49
go get it you that you look
1:01:50
fit man and it's very very
1:01:52
cool um I appreciate you 46
1:01:54
about before so yeah dude
1:01:56
man you look fit as hell so
1:01:59
I'm about to be 40 next
1:02:00
year so next year I'll be
1:02:01
in the 48 group so cory
1:02:03
went to uh masters fitness
1:02:05
collective this year
1:02:05
qualified in the rx
1:02:08
division and I think you'll
1:02:09
be okay with me at the
1:02:11
bottom of the
1:02:11
qualifications in person killed it
1:02:16
Love it.
1:02:16
Hell yeah.
1:02:17
Won an event and finished
1:02:20
like up near the top in the RX division.
1:02:23
So now it's just like
1:02:25
increasingly get better and
1:02:28
figuring out online comp stuff.
1:02:30
And it's that.
1:02:31
Online qualifiers are weird, man.
1:02:32
It's hard to go to that
1:02:32
place in an online qualifier.
1:02:35
Sports are meant to be done in person.
1:02:36
You're meant to line up next
1:02:37
to the person that you're
1:02:39
going through this thing with.
1:02:40
I dream of a day,
1:02:41
especially for the elites,
1:02:42
where online qualifiers are
1:02:44
a thing of the past.
1:02:44
I don't think we're anywhere
1:02:46
near that happening.
1:02:46
I've got a lot of thoughts on that.
1:02:47
But get yourself in
1:02:50
in-person competitions.
1:02:51
That's where you really get
1:02:52
a chance to kind of square
1:02:55
up and do your thing.
1:02:56
And Corey's like Caroline, I was saying,
1:02:57
PTP, man, shows up under the lights.
1:03:00
Exactly.
1:03:01
That is exactly how he is.
1:03:03
Um,
1:03:04
so my last question to this was how
1:03:06
much has CrossFit helped
1:03:07
you with these other endeavors,
1:03:10
like diving into a triathlon, driving it,
1:03:13
diving into these ultras?
1:03:15
Yeah, I think a lot.
1:03:17
Um,
1:03:17
I think it's helped my ability to stay
1:03:18
durable during the training.
1:03:19
So the training of these things is the,
1:03:22
the hardest part, like
1:03:23
to be able to show up, put in these, um,
1:03:25
one to four hour training
1:03:27
runs to go out and,
1:03:28
and put in these miles to
1:03:30
go up and down these mountains.
1:03:31
Cause a lot of these trail
1:03:32
runs are all about
1:03:32
elevation gain and loss as well.
1:03:34
Um, I think my, just, I've, I've, uh,
1:03:40
I've never been a great CrossFit athlete,
1:03:41
but I've been pretty decent.
1:03:42
And I think that my ability
1:03:43
and my history of training
1:03:45
CrossFit has just made me a
1:03:46
lot more durable to
1:03:47
withstand the beating that
1:03:49
you take when you train
1:03:50
like a runner like that.
1:03:51
Running, I think,
1:03:51
is the most injury prone
1:03:52
sport on the planet.
1:03:53
And I think a lot of it is
1:03:54
because everyone's very imbalanced.
1:03:56
CrossFit has given me the absolute,
1:03:58
and I think this is what
1:03:59
the program was originally
1:04:01
intended to do.
1:04:01
It gives me the absolute
1:04:03
best foundation that if you
1:04:05
give me three months,
1:04:08
I can pretty much get ready
1:04:09
for just about any athletic
1:04:11
endeavor that I would want to do.
1:04:13
And that is what I love.
1:04:15
what you're saying is
1:04:16
crossfit is preventing
1:04:17
injuries that running
1:04:19
causes that's such a no
1:04:21
that's no that's crazy
1:04:22
don't put that under my
1:04:23
name I wouldn't stand
1:04:24
behind that absolutely man
1:04:27
it's been great um crossfit
1:04:29
has made me more durable
1:04:30
better put together to
1:04:32
withstand the training to
1:04:33
be able to go and do any
1:04:35
crazy athletic challenge
1:04:37
that I want to do from a
1:04:37
CrossFit competition to a
1:04:38
weightlifting competition
1:04:39
to an ultra marathon.
1:04:41
You give me eight to 12
1:04:43
weeks and I can pretty much
1:04:44
get myself in fight and shape to,
1:04:45
to go have fun and do any
1:04:46
of those things.
1:04:49
Well, as always, Jared, man,
1:04:50
it's a blast hanging out with you.
1:04:52
Um, again, I,
1:04:54
I only get through half my
1:04:55
notes every time.
1:04:55
Like we talk,
1:04:58
you go down an Avenue and I
1:04:59
just go with you.
1:05:00
I love it, man.
1:05:01
It's been fun.
1:05:02
I absolutely love being on here.
1:05:03
I love being on your show.
1:05:05
I think just the feel and
1:05:07
the flow and just how you
1:05:12
go about what you do is
1:05:13
very welcoming and
1:05:14
comforting in the space.
1:05:15
And I know that you probably
1:05:18
love this sport as much,
1:05:19
if not more than anyone
1:05:21
else in the space.
1:05:23
And it shows.
1:05:24
And I appreciate everything you do as well,
1:05:25
my man.
1:05:26
Well, thank you so much.
1:05:27
One quick last comment.
1:05:29
Highline looks pretty injury prone.
1:05:33
That man,
1:05:34
that sport looks gnarly correction.
1:05:37
I will not be participating in highlight,
1:05:39
although I was a baseball pitcher,
1:05:40
so I might be okay.
1:05:41
There you go.
1:05:43
All I know it from is the
1:05:44
opening of Miami Vice.
1:05:45
That's how old I am.
1:05:46
Other than that, not a clue.
1:05:50
But with that, thank you, everybody,
1:05:51
for being here.
1:05:52
Thank you for the chat, for joining in.
1:05:54
Thank you, Jared.
1:05:55
And good luck this week as
1:05:56
you have the big open
1:05:57
announcement tomorrow.
1:05:58
Yes, sir.
1:05:59
If you get any hints, send them our way.
1:06:02
I got you.
1:06:03
With that,
1:06:04
we'll catch everybody next time
1:06:05
on the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
1:06:07
Bye, guys.