Latest / History Dark / He Built a Secret Cellar to Trap His Own Daughter _ Fritzl By Fred Dinenage
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Joseph Fritzl was the most horrific story I've ever reported
- 0:03Speaker 1: in 30 years of journalism. And it was the most
- 0:05Speaker 1: touching story, especially when the little children coming out on
- 0:09Speaker 1: the daylight for the first time in their life.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Joseph Fritzl was one of those offenders who could maintain
- 0:15Speaker 2: a public face of respectability, but that public face of
- 0:20Speaker 2: respectability merely hid a far darker private reality.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Surely the most extraordinary and the most tragic thing about
- 0:29Speaker 3: Joseph Fritzl is that he managed to camouflage himself as
- 0:32Speaker 3: a respectable member of society, as a pillar of community,
- 0:35Speaker 3: while at the same time he was just leading this
- 0:38Speaker 3: double life of monstrosity.
- 0:43Speaker 4: On the 27th of April 2008, the horrific case of
- 0:48Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl sent shockwaves around the world. News report after
- 0:54Speaker 4: news report gave details of a quite unbelievable story. For
- 1:00Speaker 4: 24 years, Josef Fritzl had kept his own daughter captive
- 1:04Speaker 4: in a cellar beneath his house. In that time, he'd
- 1:08Speaker 4: used her as a slave and fathered seven children. I
- 1:12Speaker 4: have come to Austria to try and discover why Josef
- 1:16Speaker 4: Fritzl carried out his terrible crimes and how he kept
- 1:20Speaker 4: his secret for so long. I'm standing here in the
- 1:43Speaker 4: heart of Vienna, the capital city of Austria. Here in 2008,
- 1:47Speaker 4: the world learned the gruesome details of Josef Fritzl and
- 1:53Speaker 4: what he did to his young daughter.
- 1:56Speaker 5: As a journalist, I find this story extraordinary. As a father,
- 2:00Speaker 5: I find it abhorrent. How and why did this happen?
- 2:07Speaker 4: By the age of 42, Elisabeth Fritzl had spent over
- 2:11Speaker 4: half of her life living in captivity without sunlight and
- 2:15Speaker 4: in cramped conditions, controlled.
- 2:17Speaker 5: By her father.
- 2:19Speaker 4: When the police in Amstetten held a conference and broke
- 2:22Speaker 4: the news of Josef Fritzl, the world's press responded. The
- 2:28Speaker 4: first journalist to break the story worldwide was British-born Mark Perry,
- 2:33Speaker 4: who works for a Vienna-based newspaper called Kronen Zeitung. Tell
- 2:42Speaker 4: me about the impact in Austria when the story of
- 2:47Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl broke?
- 2:51Speaker 1: It actually was a tremendous impact. People were shocked, flabbergasted.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Nobody could believe it. Nobody in the whole world could
- 2:59Speaker 1: believe it. But people, especially in Amstetten, the neighbors, the
- 3:03Speaker 1: police officers, all of them.
- 3:04Speaker 6: From the point of view of the criminal police, the
- 3:08Speaker 6: missing person case, Elisabeth Fritzl, can now be deemed resolved. Nevertheless,
- 3:17Speaker 6: police investigations will be continued.
- 3:22Speaker 5: Where were you at the time?
- 3:24Speaker 1: I was in the Waldviertel with my kids. Got a
- 3:27Speaker 1: phone call by my editor-in-chief. He just told me, we've
- 3:33Speaker 1: got a big case unfolding here. I said, ah, big case.
- 3:38Speaker 1: It's about Fritzl. I said, yeah, because Elisabeth, she left
- 3:41Speaker 1: her children at the doorstep. And he said, no, it's worse,
- 3:43Speaker 1: it's worse, it's worse, it's worse. Off I went to Amstetten.
- 3:46Speaker 1: And that's where I spent about two weeks.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl had made world headlines. He was born here
- 3:54Speaker 4: in the somewhat unglamorous town of Amstetten in Austria on
- 3:59Speaker 4: the 9th of April 1935. And it was this town
- 4:03Speaker 4: and the house in which he lived that were to
- 4:05Speaker 4: make world headlines in 2008. Well, I'm joined here in
- 4:10Speaker 4: Austria by Professor David Wilson, Britain's leading criminologist, who's helping
- 4:15Speaker 4: me to uncover the real facts behind the headlines. David Wilson,
- 4:20Speaker 4: who was Josef Fritzl?
- 4:23Speaker 2: You'd imagine in this very ordinary town that Josef Fritzl
- 4:27Speaker 2: was going to have a very ordinary childhood and life.
- 4:29Speaker 2: In fact, his childhood was extraordinary. Josef Fritzl's childhood is
- 4:34Speaker 2: dominated by his mother and his grandmother. Josef's grandmother... Anna
- 4:39Speaker 2: is born also in Amstetten, but marries a mill owner.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The grandmother and the mill owner were in a very
- 4:46Speaker 2: loveless relationship because his grandmother, Josef Fritzl's grandmother, couldn't have children.
- 4:51Speaker 2: So the mill owner resolved that particular problem by having
- 4:55Speaker 2: a child with three different servants working in his household.
- 5:01Speaker 2: One of those children that he had by a servant,
- 5:03Speaker 2: therefore out of wedlock, was Maria, Josef Fritzl's mother.
- 5:09Speaker 4: The family all lived at Forti Eibstrasse. In 1934, Fritzl's mother, Maria,
- 5:16Speaker 4: met a very poor man called Josef and became pregnant.
- 5:20Speaker 4: The baby boy was also named Josef. He was given
- 5:23Speaker 4: his grandmother Anna's maiden name, Fritzl, ignoring his grandfather and
- 5:28Speaker 4: father's involvement. On the 12th of March 1938, when Josef
- 5:34Speaker 4: Fritzl was nearly three years old, Hitler's troops marched across
- 5:38Speaker 4: the border into Amstetten. Hitler himself followed a few days
- 5:43Speaker 4: later to be greeted by a large crowd. Young Josef
- 5:47Speaker 4: Fritzl was in that crowd, perched on the shoulders.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Of his father to greet the Fuhrer.
- 5:54Speaker 4: Bojan Panczewski is a European correspondent who has studied Josef
- 5:58Speaker 4: Fritzl's early life.
- 6:00Speaker 5: I'm going to meet him.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Would it have been difficult at that time in Austria
- 6:07Speaker 4: for a child born out of wedlock?
- 6:09Speaker 5: Most certainly, yes.
- 6:10Speaker 3: I think until very recently it would have been a
- 6:12Speaker 3: difficult experience. The child would have been stigmatised by that
- 6:16Speaker 3: experience in the local community.
- 6:19Speaker 4: In 1938, 99.7% of Austrians voted to become part of
- 6:21Speaker 4: the Third Reich. But young Josef Fritzl's mother didn't always
- 6:29Speaker 4: conform to the ways of her new leaders. She had
- 6:33Speaker 4: a feisty temper and angered the Nazi authorities.
- 6:37Speaker 3: During the Second World War, she was arrested and interned
- 6:40Speaker 3: to a concentration camp where she spent a few months
- 6:44Speaker 3: and Josef was left on his own, so there must
- 6:47Speaker 3: have left scars on the young boy's psyche.
- 6:50Speaker 4: Nine-year-old Josef was sent to an orphanage during this period
- 6:55Speaker 4: and told that his mother was dead. Only as the
- 6:58Speaker 4: war ended did he realise she was still alive. Young
- 7:02Speaker 4: Josef's father had joined the German army and fought on
- 7:06Speaker 4: the Eastern Front until he was taken prisoner by the Russians.
- 7:10Speaker 4: He was released in 1948 and returned to Amstetten, where
- 7:15Speaker 4: he was shunned by both the boy and his mother.
- 7:18Speaker 4: After the war, Fritzl's mother became even more eccentric and aggressive.
- 7:23Speaker 4: Her discipline towards her son grew more violent.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Fritzl's mother was not a loving mother. She wanted a child,
- 7:33Speaker 2: but she didn't have the wherewithal, she didn't have the
- 7:36Speaker 2: psychological make-up to understand that she had responsibilities for her child,
- 7:41Speaker 2: that she should care for her child, and so she
- 7:44Speaker 2: would regularly beat him.
- 7:46Speaker 4: The relationship changed when Fritzl turned 15. He finally stood
- 7:51Speaker 4: up against his mother's attacks. His own behaviour also changed.
- 7:56Speaker 2: We see some really difficult behaviours emerging around the time
- 8:03Speaker 2: that Fritzl's going to stand up to his mother. So,
- 8:05Speaker 2: for example, he becomes what's known.
- 8:08Speaker 7: As a lurker. We would probably call this a peeping Tom.
- 8:12Speaker 2: He's going to listen out for young couples having sex
- 8:18Speaker 2: in their homes so that he can hear their sexual activity.
- 8:23Speaker 2: he's also going to develop from that kind of behaviour
- 8:27Speaker 2: to exposing himself to women.
- 8:30Speaker 4: In 1951, at the age of 16, Fritzl left his
- 8:34Speaker 4: home in Amstetten and came here to the Austrian city
- 8:37Speaker 4: of Linz, some 40 miles away from Amstetten, where he
- 8:41Speaker 4: became an engineer for Voist. In 1956, he met his wife,
- 8:46Speaker 4: Rosemary Byer.
- 8:48Speaker 3: They met when he was very young. He was working
- 8:52Speaker 3: as a technical assistant in an engineering firm in Linz
- 8:56Speaker 3: called First. And her father was a colleague of his.
- 9:01Speaker 3: I believe she was 16 or 17 years old. And
- 9:06Speaker 3: he was immediately impressed with her. And then he told
- 9:08Speaker 3: friends that she would make a good wife, a good housewife,
- 9:12Speaker 3: because she seemed to be obedient, you know, accepting of things.
- 9:16Speaker 4: By September 1963, after just seven years of marriage, Fritzl
- 9:22Speaker 4: and Rosemary had three children, two daughters and a son.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl's job was going well. Engineers were in constant
- 9:31Speaker 4: demand in the post-war years. The shabby, illegitimate boy had
- 9:36Speaker 4: turned into a confident and authoritative man.
- 9:40Speaker 2: He's sent by his employer to Ghana, and he doesn't
- 9:43Speaker 2: return from those experiences... until 1965. Meanwhile, his three children
- 9:49Speaker 2: are getting older. And so one of the ways he
- 9:52Speaker 2: deals with that situation is he's going to be violent
- 9:55Speaker 2: and domineering. And quite quickly, Rosemary will fall pregnant again.
- 10:00Speaker 2: and give birth to their fourth child.
- 10:03Speaker 4: On the 8th of April 1966 Elizabeth was born into
- 10:07Speaker 4: an increasingly volatile household. Fritzl was back working as an
- 10:12Speaker 4: engineer in Linz and reverted to the predatory habits he'd
- 10:16Speaker 4: picked up as a teenager. Here we are in Linz,
- 10:22Speaker 4: a not unattractive industrial city in the northern part of Austria,
- 10:27Speaker 4: what they call Lower Austria, on the banks of the
- 10:30Speaker 4: river Danube, and about an hour's drive from Amstetten. And
- 10:33Speaker 4: it was to hear Professor David Wilson that Josef Fritzl
- 10:37Speaker 4: would come when he wanted to escape Amstetten.
- 10:40Speaker 7: Very pragmatic reasons.
- 10:41Speaker 2: This was the closest large city he could escape the
- 10:44Speaker 2: scrutiny of a small town. And whilst he was here,
- 10:47Speaker 2: of course, he could indulge in this interest because he
- 10:51Speaker 2: would visit the red light area.
- 10:52Speaker 5: He got into trouble with the law here as well.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Yes, in 1967, he was convicted of a rape. He
- 10:58Speaker 2: followed a young mother home to her house and then
- 11:02Speaker 2: after she had fallen asleep, he broke into her house
- 11:05Speaker 2: and at knife point, he put her in her bed
- 11:09Speaker 2: as her child was sleeping beside her in a cot.
- 11:12Speaker 5: What sentence did he get?
- 11:14Speaker 2: Fritzl only received 18 months for the rape of this
- 11:18Speaker 2: young mother.
- 11:19Speaker 4: But under Austrian law, the sentence doesn't stay on the
- 11:22Speaker 4: record forever.
- 11:23Speaker 7: No, and that's a very crucial point.
- 11:25Speaker 2: After 15 years, any offender's record is wiped clean. And therefore,
- 11:31Speaker 2: as far as the state is concerned, after 15 years,
- 11:34Speaker 2: that never took place.
- 11:36Speaker 5: And as far as Fritzl's wife was concerned... It was forgiven.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Yes, she stood by him. She visited him in the
- 11:42Speaker 2: prison and she never mentioned the fact that her husband
- 11:46Speaker 2: had been convicted.
- 11:47Speaker 4: By the end of 1972, the Fritzl family had grown.
- 11:52Speaker 4: There were now seven children, four girls and three boys.
- 11:57Speaker 4: Fritzl's reputation as an engineer was also growing. He was
- 12:01Speaker 4: a respected member of the community.
- 12:04Speaker 5: Or so they thought.
- 12:08Speaker 4: I've travelled to Austria to retrace the extraordinary case of
- 12:12Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl and his 24-year reign of terror over his
- 12:17Speaker 4: captive daughter, Elisabeth. In 1973, Fritzl was a wealthy member
- 12:24Speaker 4: of the Amstetten community. His reputation was growing. He decided
- 12:29Speaker 4: to go into property and purchase the Zeistern Guesthouse next
- 12:33Speaker 4: to Monsee Lake, incites Gamakut, a three-story hotel with 40 bedrooms.
- 12:39Speaker 3: He owned guest houses. He owned restaurants. He then bought
- 12:43Speaker 3: this place in Monse, which included a restaurant and a
- 12:46Speaker 3: camping place. And he ran it with a profit for
- 12:49Speaker 3: a while, and then when he got financially into trouble,
- 12:51Speaker 3: a place caught fire and burned down, and authorities suspected
- 12:56Speaker 3: an insurance scam, but never managed to prove anything.
- 13:02Speaker 4: In 1978, Josef Fritzl decided to expand the family home
- 13:07Speaker 4: at 40 Ebestrasse in Amstetten.
- 13:10Speaker 5: He wanted a roof terrace and a new.
- 13:12Speaker 4: Extension in which to place nine new flats for tenants.
- 13:16Speaker 4: He also applied for permission to build a rather large cellar.
- 13:21Speaker 4: The plans were approved and construction began on a major scale.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Fritzl's family life is one in which we are having
- 13:29Speaker 2: to deal with what the serial killer Ian Brady once
- 13:34Speaker 2: described as a house divided. How does this very public
- 13:39Speaker 2: face and this private reality. So the public face is
- 13:46Speaker 2: of a successful businessman, an engineer who's living a respectable life,
- 13:52Speaker 2: bringing up his children, being responsible, sending them to school.
- 13:57Speaker 2: But the private reality is that nobody wants to talk
- 14:02Speaker 2: about these very problematic behaviors, which are clearly beginning to
- 14:10Speaker 2: become more manifest in relation to his behavior towards his children,
- 14:16Speaker 2: especially his female children, and especially one particular female child,
- 14:22Speaker 2: Elizabeth Fritzl.
- 14:24Speaker 4: Elizabeth Fritzl was now 12 years old. Her manner reminded
- 14:28Speaker 4: Fritzl of himself as a boy. He believed they had
- 14:32Speaker 4: a special connection. Fritzl had become obsessed with his daughter.
- 14:36Speaker 4: He spied on her and demanded to know where she
- 14:39Speaker 4: was at all times. Elizabeth did have a few close friends,
- 14:43Speaker 4: among them twins, Jutta and Christa.
- 14:48Speaker 5: Tell me about her. What was she like?
- 14:52Speaker 8: Elizabeth actually was a very lovely girl. We became friends
- 14:56Speaker 8: from the moment we started going to school. I always
- 15:01Speaker 8: say that the right people always come together, and that
- 15:04Speaker 8: was the case with Elizabeth and I. We knew that
- 15:08Speaker 8: several things in the family were not OK. Well, one
- 15:11Speaker 8: sensed it, but you didn't talk about it. She was
- 15:16Speaker 8: a calm person, I was also very calm, and that
- 15:19Speaker 8: was why we got together. We walked together to school
- 15:23Speaker 8: and that way we became closer.
- 15:27Speaker 4: Tell me about Joseph Fritzl. What sort of man was he?
- 15:32Speaker 4: Can you describe him to me?
- 15:36Speaker 8: When I was a child and saw him, I thought, OK,
- 15:39Speaker 8: not a good man. Well, his appearance, you sensed it,
- 15:43Speaker 8: but we never spoke to him when we were children.
- 15:45Speaker 8: We only saw him.
- 15:47Speaker 5: How could you tell... He was not a good man.
- 15:50Speaker 8: The strictness in the face, the sinister eyes, no smile,
- 15:55Speaker 8: no kindness.
- 15:57Speaker 4: In September 1981, Elisabeth started a tourism and gastronomy course
- 16:03Speaker 4: in Waldeck, a small town 12 miles from Amstetten. She
- 16:07Speaker 4: also worked in a petrol station restaurant to support herself.
- 16:12Speaker 4: But at home, behind closed doors, Fritzl's obsession grew.
- 16:17Speaker 2: In effect, what was happening to Elizabeth Fritzl in private
- 16:22Speaker 2: was that her father was exposing himself to her, leaving
- 16:27Speaker 2: pornographic magazines under her pillow, and was beginning to abuse her.
- 16:35Speaker 4: Did Elizabeth ever speak to you about her father and
- 16:41Speaker 4: what her father was doing?
- 16:46Speaker 8: No, she didn't really speak about it. Also, it was forbidden.
- 16:50Speaker 8: I realised that it was forbidden for her. What happens
- 16:54Speaker 8: at home stays at home and is not brought outside.
- 16:58Speaker 8: That's why she was a very calm, quiet person.
- 17:02Speaker 4: The construction work at the family home was developing. Fritzl
- 17:07Speaker 4: had built a labyrinth of rooms beneath the new extensions.
- 17:12Speaker 4: The flats above were rented out to tenants but had
- 17:15Speaker 4: a high turnover, so nobody asked any questions. On 28th
- 17:21Speaker 4: January 1983, Elizabeth ran away from home.
- 17:28Speaker 3: She left her home when she was still underage. But
- 17:31Speaker 3: then there was a warrant sent out, obviously, because she
- 17:34Speaker 3: was a minor, so she got found by police in Vienna.
- 17:38Speaker 3: And they called her father and they drove all the
- 17:40Speaker 3: way back from Vienna to Amstetten. And in the car already,
- 17:45Speaker 3: he promised her that he will never let her run
- 17:48Speaker 3: away again, which must have sounded like a terrible sentence
- 17:51Speaker 3: to her at the time.
- 17:53Speaker 4: By the summer of 1983, the cellar was completed. It
- 17:57Speaker 4: had lighting with many interconnecting rooms. It was to be
- 18:01Speaker 4: used for storage and as a workshop.
- 18:04Speaker 2: He has been desperate to control that space since he
- 18:08Speaker 2: was a boy. So he upgrades it, he uses his
- 18:12Speaker 2: building skills, he uses his engineering skills, he uses his
- 18:15Speaker 2: contacts in the building trade to be able to redecorate,
- 18:19Speaker 2: to redesign, cutting up the space in a way that
- 18:24Speaker 2: would allow him the maximum control of that space.
- 18:28Speaker 4: In May 1984, Elisabeth Fritzl announced she was going to
- 18:33Speaker 4: move in with her sister in nearby Linz.
- 18:36Speaker 7: Now, you see, here we've got a problem for Fritzl.
- 18:40Speaker 7: He likes what he's doing to Elisabeth.
- 18:43Speaker 2: He does not want to lose Elisabeth, whom he's been abusing.
- 18:48Speaker 2: He wants to control her, he wants to dominate her,
- 18:51Speaker 2: and in effect... Elizabeth has revealed to him her escape route.
- 18:56Speaker 7: I'm going to leave here. I'm leaving this space.
- 18:59Speaker 2: There could be a sense in which Fritzl himself might
- 19:01Speaker 2: have been worried that once she was out of that
- 19:04Speaker 2: private space, she might publicly talk about what had happened
- 19:08Speaker 2: to her.
- 19:09Speaker 7: So this is a crisis point for him.
- 19:11Speaker 2: He has to stop Elisabeth Fritzl from leaving Fortiibstrasse.
- 19:18Speaker 4: On 28 August 1984, Josef Fritzl lured 18-year-old Elisabeth into
- 19:24Speaker 4: the cellar of the house, drugging and handcuffing her before
- 19:28Speaker 4: incarcerating his own daughter.
- 19:32Speaker 2: He has some ruse about carrying a door down to
- 19:35Speaker 2: the garage. And then once the door is in the garage,
- 19:38Speaker 2: she says to Elizabeth, oh, come into my study. I
- 19:40Speaker 2: want to talk about something privately with you. She goes
- 19:44Speaker 2: into his study. And whilst her back is turned to him,
- 19:48Speaker 2: we now know that he used a chloroplast. infused rag
- 19:52Speaker 2: to cover her face to knock her out. He's then
- 19:56Speaker 2: going to carry Elizabeth's body into this hidden space that
- 20:03Speaker 2: as far as the authorities are concerned doesn't exist and
- 20:07Speaker 2: that hidden space is contains simply a bed, a TV,
- 20:11Speaker 2: a video, and he chains Elizabeth within that space.
- 20:18Speaker 4: Fritzl forced his daughter to write a letter saying she'd
- 20:22Speaker 4: run away and joined a cult. He then drove 100
- 20:27Speaker 4: miles out of town to post the letter. When did
- 20:31Speaker 4: you first report on anything to do with the Fritzl family?
- 20:37Speaker 1: That was, I think, in 1984, was it 85? That's
- 20:43Speaker 1: when I got a call from the local police station
- 20:45Speaker 1: in Amstetten and they asked me, please put a picture
- 20:48Speaker 1: of Elisabeth in the paper. We're looking for her desperately.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Looks like a crime, but we don't know what happened
- 20:55Speaker 1: to her. And that was the first ever item on
- 20:59Speaker 1: Elisabeth Fritzl that was ever published worldwide.
- 21:03Speaker 5: Josef Fritzl had said, my daughter has run away to
- 21:06Speaker 5: join a cult. She's run away.
- 21:07Speaker 1: We had an anonymous phone call, although we had a
- 21:10Speaker 1: secret number, but she said, oh, yeah, I was phoned
- 21:14Speaker 1: and she's in a cult and, Dad, I'm not coming
- 21:16Speaker 1: back home. And in reality, she was downstairs and been
- 21:20Speaker 1: on a dog's leash and, yeah, that's when I first reported.
- 21:25Speaker 4: Fritzl kept his daughter in the secret cellar. He'd beat her,
- 21:30Speaker 4: torture her and rape her repeatedly.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Elisabeth Fritzl inevitably is going to become pregnant because her
- 21:38Speaker 2: father is on a recurring basis. The first child that
- 21:45Speaker 2: she has miscarries. So the first child that's actually born
- 21:50Speaker 2: is in 1988, and it's a girl called Kerstin. Can
- 21:56Speaker 2: we just try and imagine how awful this birth must
- 22:01Speaker 2: have been? in fetid, humid, dark, and dank conditions. Fritzl
- 22:08Speaker 2: has given his daughter a book on childbirth, a towel,
- 22:15Speaker 2: a pair of scissors.
- 22:16Speaker 7: And a couple of nappies, and in effect has.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Just allowed Elizabeth to deliver her child by herself.
- 22:26Speaker 4: In 1990, a second child, Stefan, was born. By 1991,
- 22:32Speaker 4: Elisabeth Fritzl had been incarcerated in the cellar beneath No.
- 22:37Speaker 5: 40 Ebestrasse for almost seven years.
- 22:40Speaker 4: In that time, she'd given birth to two children, Kirsten
- 22:43Speaker 4: and Stefan.
- 22:44Speaker 5: Now she was pregnant with a third.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Meanwhile, upstairs, her mother, brothers and sisters lived on, completely
- 22:52Speaker 4: unaware of her plight. I'm exploring the kidnapping and enslavement
- 23:00Speaker 4: of 18-year-old Elisabeth Fritzl in Amstetten in Austria in 1984,
- 23:06Speaker 4: and the.
- 23:06Speaker 5: Man behind the atrocity, her father, Josef Fritzl.
- 23:12Speaker 4: There were now two families living at 40 Ebestrasse in Amstetten,
- 23:17Speaker 4: one above stairs and one below, and all controlled by
- 23:21Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl. In August 1992, Elizabeth and Fritzl's third child, Lisa,
- 23:28Speaker 4: was born.
- 23:29Speaker 5: She had a heart defect.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Pragmatically, I think Fritzl is worried that the so-called sound-proofed
- 23:38Speaker 2: cellar is not going to be able to cope with
- 23:42Speaker 2: a small baby who is constantly in pain and therefore
- 23:46Speaker 2: constantly crying. And one can also presume that Elizabeth herself
- 23:51Speaker 2: is saying to her father that there's something wrong with
- 23:54Speaker 2: the baby and he has to take action. And the
- 23:57Speaker 2: action that he takes is that he puts Lisa on
- 24:02Speaker 2: their doorstep of Forte Ibstrasse with a note which again
- 24:07Speaker 2: Elizabeth has been forced to write, saying this is her daughter,
- 24:11Speaker 2: would her parents please look after the little girl.
- 24:15Speaker 7: The little girls.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Found on the doorstep and brought into the household.
- 24:19Speaker 4: Baby Lisa had emergency surgery to correct the heart defect
- 24:24Speaker 4: and began life with her grandparents, Rosemary and Josef. Downstairs,
- 24:29Speaker 4: the children had grown considerably and the cellar was becoming cramped.
- 24:34Speaker 4: Fritzl started converting more space for Elisabeth, Kerstin and Stefan.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Fritzl is beginning to try to normalize this downstairs life.
- 24:45Speaker 2: So he's moving in refrigerators. He's moving in things that
- 24:51Speaker 2: the children downstairs might want to play with. There's a
- 24:54Speaker 2: television there. So they're aware of what the outside world
- 24:58Speaker 2: is like.
- 24:58Speaker 5: They have pets.
- 24:59Speaker 7: There's a goldfish. There's a canary.
- 25:01Speaker 2: But Fritzl is responsible for everything that goes into that space.
- 25:06Speaker 4: On 16th December 1994, a second child arrived on the doorstep.
- 25:13Speaker 4: Another note was found from Elizabeth saying the baby was
- 25:17Speaker 4: called Monica. Lisa and Monica were adopted by their grandparents.
- 25:23Speaker 4: British-born reporter Mark Perry ran the story of the second
- 25:27Speaker 4: baby in the newspaper Kronen Zeitung.
- 25:32Speaker 1: When the babies were dropped on the doorstep, the two
- 25:35Speaker 1: of them, the police constable phoned me again because I
- 25:40Speaker 1: have good contact with them and he said yeah we
- 25:42Speaker 1: have this funny case and baby lying in front of
- 25:46Speaker 1: the door and we have no suspicions but where's the
- 25:49Speaker 1: mother we've got to find the mother because they the
- 25:51Speaker 1: children they want to grow up with a mum it's
- 25:54Speaker 1: a real mum and granddad is looking for her and
- 25:57Speaker 1: he was all the desperate father oh the hell where
- 26:00Speaker 1: is she I hope she's not been murdered or anything
- 26:02Speaker 1: like that no crime committed Elizabeth please please please as
- 26:08Speaker 1: every parent who has a child going missing, because you
- 26:12Speaker 1: never know what happens, murder case, kidnapping. And he put
- 26:18Speaker 1: forward the story later. Oh, she's in a cult somewhere,
- 26:21Speaker 1: a satanistic cult, all with devils and what's-her-name, and all
- 26:27Speaker 1: in his sick mind.
- 26:28Speaker 5: You weren't suspicious?
- 26:29Speaker 1: I wasn't suspicious, and I thought, what a terrible mother.
- 26:34Speaker 5: And I feel sorry for that now.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Because calling Elizabeth a terrible mother, but in a way,
- 26:39Speaker 1: I'm not to blame because everybody believed it.
- 26:42Speaker 4: On the 28th of April, 1996, Elisabeth Fritzl gave birth
- 26:47Speaker 4: to twins, Michael and Alexander. Jose Fritzl had now fathered
- 26:53Speaker 4: six children with his own daughter.
- 26:56Speaker 2: Michael is very sick, has breathing difficulties, and Fritzl, in effect...
- 27:04Speaker 2: allows the little boy to die. What Fritzl does with
- 27:08Speaker 2: Michael is.
- 27:09Speaker 7: Burn him in the furnace of the house.
- 27:13Speaker 2: So he destroys the body. That leaves the second little boy, Alexander.
- 27:17Speaker 2: And again, I think simply pragmatically, Fritzl can't take the
- 27:21Speaker 2: risk of Alexander dying. So here's a third foundling that's
- 27:26Speaker 2: left on the doorstep of Fortiibstrasse.
- 27:31Speaker 4: This is the main street in Amstetten, a small town
- 27:35Speaker 4: in Lower Austria. And this is the house where the
- 27:39Speaker 4: Fritzl family lived, Forti-Ebstrasse. Professor David Wilson, it is so ordinary.
- 27:47Speaker 4: It's just a typical everyday Austrian scene. You cannot believe it.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Yes, the banality of evil is a phrase that comes
- 27:52Speaker 2: to mind. Amstetten, a very quiet town, but look, this
- 27:56Speaker 2: is a very busy street. And yet Fritzl would have
- 27:59Speaker 2: us believe, would have the Amstetten authorities believe, that three
- 28:03Speaker 2: babies could be left on a doorstep with nobody noticing.
- 28:06Speaker 4: Elizabeth Fritzl spent all those years in a cellar at
- 28:10Speaker 4: the back of this property.
- 28:11Speaker 5: How did she survive?
- 28:13Speaker 2: Well, I think the only way we can explain that
- 28:15Speaker 2: survival is her own personal resilience and then the psychological
- 28:19Speaker 2: concept of the Stockholm Syndrome, whereby the person who's been
- 28:23Speaker 2: taken hostage learns to accommodate the hostage taker. In other words,
- 28:27Speaker 2: if the hostage wants to survive that experience, they have
- 28:31Speaker 2: to do basically what the hostage-taker wants them to do.
- 28:35Speaker 5: And Fritzl made her frightened to try and escape.
- 28:39Speaker 7: Absolutely.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Part of the Stockholm Syndrome is making the hostage feel
- 28:43Speaker 2: as if there is literally no escape. He convinces Elizabeth
- 28:46Speaker 2: that there's gas traps, that there's electronic doors, that there's
- 28:51Speaker 2: no way anybody can hear her cry. It's part of
- 28:54Speaker 2: the process of controlling her in that space.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl had control over two families, his upstairs life
- 29:03Speaker 4: and his downstairs secret. But this still wasn't enough. Work
- 29:09Speaker 4: trips provided him with more opportunities. and left Elizabeth completely
- 29:14Speaker 4: alone in the cellar with her two children.
- 29:17Speaker 3: He would often be gone for a few weeks at
- 29:21Speaker 3: a time, and during that time the family would be
- 29:24Speaker 3: left to their own devices. I mean, there would be
- 29:28Speaker 3: enough food and water for them to survive, but of
- 29:30Speaker 3: course anything could have happened. There could have been a fire,
- 29:33Speaker 3: there could have been you know, a case of illness,
- 29:36Speaker 3: you know, there could have been an emergency. He didn't
- 29:38Speaker 3: seem to much care about that. He would just leave
- 29:40Speaker 3: them without any contact to the outside world and then
- 29:44Speaker 3: just come back three weeks later after a nice little
- 29:48Speaker 3: holiday in the sun.
- 29:49Speaker 4: By December 2002, Elisabeth Fritzl had been incarcerated for 18
- 29:56Speaker 4: years in the cellar beneath the house. 14-year-old Kerstin and
- 30:02Speaker 4: 12-year-old Stefan had never been outside the cellar. They'd never
- 30:06Speaker 4: seen the sun. Elizabeth gave birth to a final child,
- 30:12Speaker 4: a boy called Felix.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Interestingly, there's a kind of mirroring going on here. Fritzl
- 30:18Speaker 2: has seven legitimate children and Fritzl, with the birth of Felix,
- 30:22Speaker 2: has seven children through his incestuous relationship.
- 30:25Speaker 7: So there's a sense of mirroring.
- 30:27Speaker 2: And because he's so fond of Felix and wants Felix
- 30:32Speaker 2: to inherit his world, you begin.
- 30:36Speaker 7: To see Fritzl trying to manage that process.
- 30:39Speaker 2: How do I get this downstairs family integrated with the
- 30:44Speaker 2: upstairs family?
- 30:45Speaker 7: And part of that's pragmatic. He wants Felix to go
- 30:48Speaker 7: to school.
- 30:49Speaker 2: He realises he can't send Felix to school, and perhaps
- 30:53Speaker 2: even by this stage Fritzl had realised there can't be
- 30:56Speaker 2: a fourth foundling found on the doorstep.
- 30:59Speaker 4: Fritzl started to make plans to free Elizabeth at the
- 31:03Speaker 4: end of 2008, but in the middle of March that year,
- 31:07Speaker 4: 19-year-old Kirsten became seriously ill.
- 31:11Speaker 3: The only medication at their disposal was aspirin, so she
- 31:15Speaker 3: had been given aspirin for weeks, but obviously didn't help.
- 31:19Speaker 3: And Elizabeth managed to convince Fritz to take Kastin to
- 31:22Speaker 3: the hospital. And this was probably the first time in
- 31:25Speaker 3: those 24 years where she really put her foot down.
- 31:28Speaker 7: She was adamant that she would just.
- 31:29Speaker 3: Not go on if he were to allow Kastin to die,
- 31:34Speaker 3: which was probably what would have happened.
- 31:36Speaker 4: On the 19th of April 2008, Elizabeth helped her father
- 31:41Speaker 4: carry Kirsten upstairs before returning to join Stefan and Felix.
- 31:47Speaker 4: The doctor at the hospital, Dr Reiter, needed more medical information,
- 31:51Speaker 4: but without the mother, no-one could answer his questions. So
- 31:56Speaker 4: a television appeal went out looking for Elizabeth, which Elizabeth
- 32:01Speaker 4: saw on her television in the cellar. Elizabeth's world changed
- 32:05Speaker 4: forever on Saturday 26th April.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Elizabeth persuades Joseph that she has to go to the
- 32:14Speaker 2: hospital to explain what's been happening to Kirsten and therefore
- 32:20Speaker 2: Joseph takes Elizabeth to the hospital Dr. Reiter interviews Elizabeth
- 32:25Speaker 2: tries to get as much information as possible and once
- 32:28Speaker 2: that interview is finished the police arrest Elizabeth take her
- 32:32Speaker 2: into a room and begin to interrogate her and it's
- 32:36Speaker 2: only when they threaten to take away her children that
- 32:40Speaker 2: Elizabeth reveals for the first time what Josef Fritzl has
- 32:45Speaker 2: been doing to her and the police arrest Josef Fritzl
- 32:49Speaker 2: and the game is in effect up.
- 32:52Speaker 4: Fritzl freed his other two children Stefan and Felix at
- 32:56Speaker 4: the same time as releasing Elizabeth. What condition were they
- 33:01Speaker 4: in as far as you know when they were released?
- 33:04Speaker 3: Well, they were in a very bad condition at the
- 33:06Speaker 3: time of their release. You have to know that Fritzl
- 33:10Speaker 3: kind of did try to provide as much care as
- 33:15Speaker 3: possible for them. He brought them vitamin supplements. He bought
- 33:22Speaker 3: them lamps because of the vitamin D deficiency. They were
- 33:26Speaker 3: never exposed to the sun. and so on, but they
- 33:29Speaker 3: were in an extremely bad condition, obviously. Their skins were
- 33:35Speaker 3: all pale. They had all sorts of infections because of
- 33:39Speaker 3: the filth of the humidity of the place where they lived.
- 33:43Speaker 3: It was infested with bacteria, with insects, and so on.
- 33:49Speaker 4: By Sunday, the 27th of April, news of Elizabeth's 24
- 33:54Speaker 4: years of enslavement had spread. The press began to arrive,
- 33:59Speaker 4: and the forensic experts entered the cellar of Forti-Ebstrasse in Amstetten.
- 34:05Speaker 4: The years of abuse and rape had ended, and now
- 34:09Speaker 4: the family had to adapt to a strange new world outside.
- 34:15Speaker 4: I'm reinvestigating the horrifying incarceration of Elisabeth Fritzl by her father, Josef,
- 34:22Speaker 4: and Austria's reaction to his brutal actions. It was at
- 34:27Speaker 4: the end of April 2008 when the world realised the
- 34:31Speaker 4: horror that was unfolding in the small town of Amstetten.
- 34:36Speaker 4: Elisabeth Fritzl had revealed the unimaginable crimes of her father.
- 34:42Speaker 4: But the immediate focus, though, was on her first child,
- 34:46Speaker 4: 19-year-old Kerstin, who was seriously ill in hospital. Tell me
- 34:51Speaker 4: a little about the reaction of, first of all, when
- 34:57Speaker 4: she woke up in hospital?
- 34:59Speaker 5: Actually, very moving.
- 35:01Speaker 1: I talked to the doctors. She just, like in a film,
- 35:05Speaker 1: just slowly opened her eyes, looked around, and the first
- 35:09Speaker 1: thing she said, I want to watch a Robbie Williams concert.
- 35:12Speaker 1: The second thing, a new life is starting for all
- 35:15Speaker 1: of us. Let us be happy. Little Felix, pressing his
- 35:19Speaker 1: nose to the window, going in this car for the
- 35:22Speaker 1: first time in his little life, watching all the lights,
- 35:27Speaker 1: seeing the moonlight for the first time, and gluing his
- 35:30Speaker 1: little nose till it's white to the window shield of
- 35:34Speaker 1: the car, just looking, staring, wide eyes, saying nothing. That
- 35:40Speaker 1: was his first look at the normal life.
- 35:43Speaker 4: Colonel Frank Polzer, the head of Lower Austria's criminal police,
- 35:48Speaker 4: held an impromptu press conference on the 27th of April.
- 35:52Speaker 4: He told the world that Josef Fritzl had kept his
- 35:56Speaker 4: daughter in his cellar for 24 years and that she'd
- 36:00Speaker 4: borne him several children. The press went wild. Boyan, tell
- 36:07Speaker 4: me what the reaction was like in Austria when... news
- 36:12Speaker 4: of the whole Fritzl affair became public.
- 36:15Speaker 3: The reports were quite erratic and I think the news
- 36:18Speaker 3: readers were themselves in disbelief about what they were actually
- 36:22Speaker 3: reading from the local wire, which was based on a
- 36:26Speaker 3: press release from Amstetten's police. Within two days they had
- 36:31Speaker 3: about 800 camera teams and journalists and interpreters, fixers, TV vans,
- 36:39Speaker 3: satellite dishes.
- 36:40Speaker 6: It is our duty to investigate the concurrent circumstances which
- 36:50Speaker 6: made it possible that such crime which shocked all of
- 36:57Speaker 6: us deeply could happen.
- 37:00Speaker 3: In Austria there was a huge backlash against the international
- 37:05Speaker 3: coverage and part of it was justified because, you know,
- 37:09Speaker 3: especially tabloids from the English-speaking world, were very intrusive because
- 37:13Speaker 3: they were hungry, they were demanding images from the family,
- 37:17Speaker 3: they were demanding details of the ordeal, and the family refused,
- 37:23Speaker 3: Elizabeth refused, and she refuses this very day to be photographed,
- 37:27Speaker 3: to speak to anyone, she doesn't want her story told
- 37:31Speaker 3: by herself or the family, she doesn't want them to
- 37:34Speaker 3: be in the spotlight.
- 37:37Speaker 4: Following his arrest, the authorities ordered a psychiatric evaluation of
- 37:42Speaker 4: the 73-year-old Josef Fritzl. Was he insane or was he
- 37:48Speaker 4: suffering from a deep-rooted, profound personality disorder? Dr Adelheid Kastner
- 37:54Speaker 4: was asked by the courts to assess Fritzl's reasons.
- 37:58Speaker 5: Behind his actions.
- 38:00Speaker 9: Was this the most awful case you have been involved
- 38:04Speaker 9: with yourself?
- 38:06Speaker 10: You can't really imagine what 24 years mean. You can't.
- 38:12Speaker 10: I remember I was standing down there in the cellar
- 38:15Speaker 10: and thought, well, they were down there for 24 years.
- 38:20Speaker 10: So now I try to imagine what that means. And
- 38:24Speaker 10: I thought, well, where have I been 24 years ago
- 38:26Speaker 10: and what happened in this time? And it feels like forever.
- 38:33Speaker 10: It feels like endless.
- 38:35Speaker 9: Is it possible for you to paint a picture for
- 38:38Speaker 9: me of what the cellar was like.
- 38:41Speaker 10: It was quite a mess with all kinds of machine
- 38:47Speaker 10: parts lying around and the writing desk and it was
- 38:55Speaker 10: a rabid warren of rooms, of cellar rooms. And in
- 38:59Speaker 10: the far corner was a cupboard And behind that cupboard
- 39:05Speaker 10: was a door that was one meter per one meter.
- 39:09Speaker 10: And it was a metal frame filled with concrete, like that.
- 39:16Speaker 10: And you had to creep through it because it was
- 39:19Speaker 10: only one meter high to go on your knees. And
- 39:23Speaker 10: then you could, behind the door, you could stand up
- 39:25Speaker 10: again and it was a corridor that was leading to
- 39:31Speaker 10: another door like that. You had to go down on
- 39:35Speaker 10: your knees again and then you came to a kind
- 39:37Speaker 10: of provisions room, you know, where you had shelves and
- 39:40Speaker 10: a fridge. And then you came to the living quarters,
- 39:48Speaker 10: you know. From there on, the doors were relatively normal.
- 39:54Speaker 10: The rooms were so that I could stand there, could
- 39:59Speaker 10: easily stand there. And it was humid. It smelled rotten.
- 40:07Speaker 10: It was not a nice place to live in.
- 40:11Speaker 4: On 16th March 2009, Josef Fritzl was brought to trial
- 40:17Speaker 4: here at St. Pölten, the capital of Lower Austria. He
- 40:21Speaker 4: was charged with rape, enslavement, incest and the murder of
- 40:26Speaker 4: one of the children he'd conceived with his daughter, Elisabeth.
- 40:31Speaker 4: At first, Josef Fritzl entered a plea of not guilty.
- 40:36Speaker 5: What was his demeanour at the trial?
- 40:39Speaker 10: He was polite. He answered the questions. He was sitting
- 40:42Speaker 10: there like a stone.
- 40:45Speaker 5: But he changed his plea when he saw Elizabeth.
- 40:48Speaker 10: And he had to listen to her. He couldn't close
- 40:52Speaker 10: his ears. He had to listen to what she was saying.
- 40:55Speaker 10: And what she was saying was quite not a story
- 40:58Speaker 10: than he was telling. And she was telling about how
- 41:05Speaker 10: horrible the time was and had been and how brutal
- 41:09Speaker 10: he had been and how horrible the time was. And
- 41:14Speaker 10: that she did not at all feel like a partner
- 41:19Speaker 10: or that she didn't see that as a partnership. That
- 41:22Speaker 10: she saw it as a crime. And I think somehow
- 41:28Speaker 10: this got to him.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Her testimony was recorded, was video recorded, and this was
- 41:34Speaker 3: used as evidence throughout the trial. as were the testimonies
- 41:38Speaker 3: of some of the children. But she decided to show
- 41:43Speaker 3: up as a final act of defiance. She just wanted
- 41:46Speaker 3: to see him there in the dock, being put on trial, shamed,
- 41:52Speaker 3: his crimes exposed for everyone to see. For the first
- 41:55Speaker 3: time in her life, she was over 40 years old
- 41:58Speaker 3: at the time. She had been abused by him for
- 42:01Speaker 3: the whole of her life, basically, ever since her early childhood.
- 42:05Speaker 3: Her whole family had been abused by him. He was
- 42:09Speaker 3: a tyrant. He kind of ruled over her faith for
- 42:14Speaker 3: the whole of her life. And this was the one
- 42:16Speaker 3: final moment where she kind of appeared as a free,
- 42:19Speaker 3: independent woman, and he was on trial. So I think
- 42:23Speaker 3: that appearance made an impact. He burst into tears, reportedly,
- 42:28Speaker 3: and then changed his plea to guilty.
- 42:32Speaker 4: After a four-day trial, Josef Fritzl was found guilty and
- 42:36Speaker 4: sentenced to life imprisonment for murder by neglect, 20 years
- 42:41Speaker 4: for enslavement, 15 years for rape, 10 years for deprivation
- 42:46Speaker 4: of liberty, five years for coercion and one year for incest.
- 42:52Speaker 4: Elizabeth and her children are now living a secluded life
- 42:57Speaker 4: away from the media in an undisclosed location. so the
- 43:01Speaker 4: children can have normal lives. It's amazing.
- 43:06Speaker 5: She didn't go mad, isn't it?
- 43:08Speaker 10: I think she didn't go mad because she had the children.
- 43:11Speaker 10: I think it would have been almost impossible for her
- 43:15Speaker 10: to survive alone on her own. But she had a
- 43:20Speaker 10: reason to live. She had the children. She taught the children.
- 43:23Speaker 10: She tried to maintain... An almost normal life. She made
- 43:30Speaker 10: the children get up at a set time and she
- 43:34Speaker 10: made breakfast for the family and she had them go
- 43:38Speaker 10: to school, so to speak. She taught them. She tried
- 43:42Speaker 10: to maintain a normal, almost seemingly normal life. And I
- 43:48Speaker 10: think that is what saved her.
- 43:49Speaker 9: Do you think in his own strange, perverted way he
- 43:54Speaker 9: loved her?
- 43:56Speaker 10: He can't love anybody. He definitely can't. He's incapable of
- 44:01Speaker 10: loving anybody. But he is convinced that he loved her.
- 44:05Speaker 10: And he says, well, she was like a second wife
- 44:08Speaker 10: to me. She was like my second marriage.
- 44:13Speaker 4: What are your feelings now about Joseph Fritzl?
- 44:18Speaker 7: You can't have feelings for such a person.
- 44:20Speaker 8: I don't have feelings. Anyway, the sentence is, well, he's
- 44:26Speaker 8: an old man. He won't get out of there. I
- 44:29Speaker 8: didn't like him as a child. He was unlikable. And now,
- 44:33Speaker 8: after the affair, I can't find words. It's good that
- 44:38Speaker 8: he's been put away and that you don't have to
- 44:40Speaker 8: see him anymore.
- 44:44Speaker 4: And as we stand in front of this grim, fortress-like building,
- 44:48Speaker 4: your final thoughts on Josef Fritzl, the man?
- 44:52Speaker 2: I think this is almost the best angle to view
- 44:55Speaker 2: Forte Ibstrasse in Amstetten, because this building behind me reminds
- 45:00Speaker 2: me of some of the prisons I've worked in. And,
- 45:02Speaker 2: you know, my final thoughts would be these, Fred. This
- 45:05Speaker 2: isn't New York, this isn't London, this isn't some kind
- 45:09Speaker 2: of anonymous urban environment. It's sleepy Amstetten. And therefore, the
- 45:14Speaker 2: thing to take away is sometimes the most dreadful of
- 45:18Speaker 2: crimes can happen in the most ordinary of places.
- 45:23Speaker 4: For me, the case of Josef Fritzl is one of
- 45:26Speaker 4: the most shocking ever. The word cruelty doesn't begin to
- 45:31Speaker 4: describe the torture handed out to Elizabeth and her young
- 45:35Speaker 4: family by their father. How any father could commit such
- 45:39Speaker 4: a crime is beyond me. Justice, of course, has been served.
- 45:43Speaker 4: Josef Fritzl will die in prison. But for Elizabeth and
- 45:47Speaker 4: her children, the scars will last a lifetime.