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Mega Edition: Leon Black And His Attempt To Sprint Away From The Shadow Of Epstein (6/26/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
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  your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update. Hey,
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  what's going on everybody? So the Leon Black situation continues
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  to escalate. Now, we've already talked about how he has
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  stepped down and how there was a boardroom blow up
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  between him and one of the co founders of Apollo Global,
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  Joshua Harris, and all of that hinged on Leon Black's
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  relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that he was
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  not being truthful about how much money he gave to
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  Jeffrey Epstein, how much money he supposedly paid to Jeffrey Epstein,
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  and he certainly wasn't being truthful about the extent of
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  their relationship, and that has now been put on blast.
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  The fact that he was being dishonest about his relationship
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  with Epstein from the very beginning has led him to
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  the point where he is now no longer the CEO
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  of Apollo Global. Now he is still chairman of the board, right,
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  but the question is for how much longer, And in
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  my estimation it can't be for much longer. I would
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  think that Leon Black is going to be completely forced
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  out in the foreseeable future by partner Joshua Harris, and
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  as more information becomes available about Leon Black and his
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  relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, I think that you're going to
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  see the pressure just ramp up, and eventually he's going
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  to just be way too toxic to be kept around
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  in any capacity. Sam is like Les Wexner, so I
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  would expect to see Leon Black completely out of the
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  picture at Apollo much sooner than later. Because again, let's remember, folks,
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  this isn't about friendships, this isn't about being buddy buddy.
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  When we're talking about these sorts of financial institutions, it's
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  about increasing the wealth for their investors and increasing the
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  wealth for those who work for the company. That is
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  their one and only goal. They don't care about morality,
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  they don't care about doing things the right way, they
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  don't care about doing things on the up and up.
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  They care about making money, point blank, period. And these
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  hedge funds and these financial institutions, they are the last
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  group of people that anyone should ever think cares about them,
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  because they do not. You know from your own personal
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  relationships how people get funny over money. Now imagine that
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  on our grand scale and imagine all of the backstabbing, conniving, stealing,
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  and straight up scum baggery going on on a daily basis.
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  It's enough to make your head spin. Honestly, you know,
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  we were talking about Leon Black, and I said, there's
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  no way that Leon Black gave Jeffrey gave Jeffrey Epstein
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  all of that money for his advice. Zero chance. Now
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  what was that money given to Jeffrey Epstein for? I'm
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  not sure. We don't have anything to lead us one
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  way or the other right now, not even anything circumstantially.
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  But there are big questions, folks. And the article we're
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  going to read this morning from Blueberg and Bloomberg is
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  asking one of those very same questions that I've been asking.
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  How could Jeffrey Epstein mislead somebody like Leon Black so easily?
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  It just does not make sense. Now, I'm sure most
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  of you have dealt with people like Leon Black in
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  your life, maybe not as rich, but people that are
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  very powerful, very much a narcissist, and the type of
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  person that would never seed even one little bit of
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  power on their own. Now, think about the person that
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  you've met like that in your life or you've worked with,
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  and then multiply that by about five thousand, and that's
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  the kind of person Leon Black is. So you mean
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  to tell me that somebody like Jeffrey Epstein was able
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  to lead Leon Black around by the nose to the
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  tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, and Leon Black
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  was none the wiser, didn't do any legwork on who
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  Jeffrey Epstein was or what he was about. Huh, that's
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  what you would have us believe. I'm sorry, but I
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  do not believe that, and neither does Timothy L. O'Brien,
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  who is the author of our article today from Bloomberg
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  dot com headline, Could Jeffrey Epstein have played Leon Black
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  so easily? Timothy L. O'Brien, author, Leon Black, and others
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  close to him apparently had ready advice for anyone weighing
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  financial guidance from the late Jeffrey Epstein. Part of the
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  challenge of working with Epstein was separating the good ideas
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  from the bad ones. Here's a tip, Okay, hanging out
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  with Jeffrey Epstein and taking advice from him was an
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  absolutely terrible idea, and then lying about the extent of
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  that advice and the relationship with Jeffrey Epstein just compounded
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  your terrible idea. That might not have been the only challenge.
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  Of course. Epstein, who hanged himself in his Manhattan jail
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  cell in two thousand and nine twenty nineteen, allegedly after
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  being charged with sex trafficking, had a sordid personal history
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  that included prison time for soliciting prostitution from a minor. Now,
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  imagine you're Leon Black and Jeffrey Epstein comes into your life,
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  however that may occur, and now you know that he
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  has that he's already been to prison for solicitation for
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  prostitution of a minor. Now there's a lot there, right,
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  First of all, how can a minor be a prostitute?
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  Second of all, how can Leon Black look at that charge,
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  shrug his shoulders and say, ah, you know what, this
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  guy real abilitated himself for his four hours a day
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  in prison. Yeah, you know he did. He really really
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  really worked on himself while he was leaving jail the
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  stockade every day to continue to abuse girls. So Leon
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  Black would wants us to believe, folks, okay, you and
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  me and everybody else out there, that he had no idea,
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  that he's just a doddering old fool, and he was
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  led astray by an evil bad man, Jeffrey Epstein. Meanwhile,
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  everybody in the world knew what Jeffrey Epstein was at
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  this point, But according to Leon Black, one of the
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  richest most successful hedge funders ever, he had no idea
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  along the way. He settled, fended off, or never faced
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  justice for other charges involving horrific sexual abuse and rape
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  with powerless girls, teenagers and young women as the common denominator.
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  So all of that was occurring, all of that had occurred,
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  There were rumors, there was jail time. There were countless
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  numbers of girls who had come forward and spoken about
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  what Jeffrey Epstein had done. And yet Leon Black felt
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  it would be appropriate to be in business with Jeffrey Epstein,
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  felt it would be appropriate to give him the keys
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  to the castle, just like Les Wexner. And these are
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  supposed to be some of the sma hardest people on
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  Wall Street. Huh, It's no wonder that the financial world
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  is in shambles. His personal reading list was stocked with
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  such titles as SM one oh one, A Realistic Introduction
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  slave Craft, road Maps for Erotic Servitude and Training with
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  Miss Abernathy, a workbook for erotic slaves and their owners.
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  He also made a living as a financial advisor. You
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  know what, I don't even like that term anymore. I'm
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  not even gonna call him a financial advisor. I'm gonna
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  call him a financial grifter because that's what he was.
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  What was he advising financially for these people to do?
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  I mean, give me a break. Somebody like Leon Black,
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  who has over four hundred and forty billion dollars of
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  other people's money that he is in charge of investing,
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  is going to Jeffrey Epstein for financial advice. How could
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  anybody be confident having their money parked with Apollo Global?
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  I mean, are you kidding me right now, Jeffrey Epstein?
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  That was the engine that was making the train go
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  up the hill behind the scenes. Are you kidding me
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  right now? That's what you would have us believe. I'm sorry,
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  but I do not believe that the Coney Island hot
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  dog vendor was that smart and was that quick financially
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  that people like Leon Black had to have his services. Black,
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  who stepped down this week as chief executive of the
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  private equity Juggernaut, he co founded Apollo Global Management, Incorporated
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  was one of Epstein's clients. Yeah, one of a few
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  clients that we know about, right, Les Wexner, Leon Black,
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  Lebette Johnson, And you know, that's pretty much it. Now.
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  I'm sure that there were plenty of other people who
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  were involved with Jeffrey Epstein one way or the other
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  that still have not been brought to the forefront. But
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  we know that there are some heavy hitters that were
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  involved with Epstein, and we know that there are some
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  very powerful people who brought Jeffrey Epstein directly into their
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  confidence and directly gave him access to not only their wealth,
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  but the means to use that access and that wealth
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  to abuse women and girls. It's indisputable at this point.
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  He gave up his title after an internal power struggle
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  erupted following the firm's inquiry into his relationship with Epstein. Now,
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  remember that blow up inside of the boardroom is highly significant.
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  That's not something that happens very often, and well, it
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  doesn't happen very often, and we hear about it. These
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  kind of things are kept very close to the chest
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  because the last thing anyone wants is there to be
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  instability within the fund. They don't want investors getting spooked
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  and bouncing right. They want people to stick around, invest
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  their money and feel comfortable knowing that theirs stability in
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  the long term. But now you have the Jeffrey Epstein
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  situation and hanging over Leon Black, and these reports that
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  Joshua Harris and mister Black had themselves a bit of
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  a blow up in the boardroom, and seems like Joshua
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  Harris had a go at Leon Black. That's certainly what
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  it seems like reading in between the lines here. Apollo's
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  board of directors commissioned an outside law firm to examine
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  the matter, and they found that Black hadn't participated in
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  any of Epstein's crimes, but it paid him one hundred
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  and fifty eight million dollars for financial machinations that saved
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  at least one billion dollars and maybe more than two
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  billion dollars in personal tax payments. So I can only
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  imagine what sort of maneuvering and backwards ass financial scumbaggery
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  Jeffrey Epstein was on to get these tax breaks. I
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  think that Leon Black should have a full audit placed
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  on him, and I think that every single one of
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  his financial transactions should be brought to light and looked at,
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  because it's obvious that he was really, really, really in
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  bed with Epstein. It's obvious that he was pumping big
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  time dough into Epstein's bank accounts. What isn't obvious, however,
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  is the reasoning behind any of that. We don't know
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  why he was doing this. Oh, for charity, for his
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  advice must be some really damn good advice, huh, or
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  was it for something else entirely? Again, we don't know,
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  and that's where we're at. That's the task that we
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  find ourselves with right now, trying to figure out what
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  exactly Leon Black's role ultimately was in all of this.
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  Was he a bag man? Was there other things going on?
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  We just don't know. What we do know, though, is
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  that Leon Black has not been truthful, He has not
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  been honest, and the extent of his relationship with Jeffrey
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  Epstein is much deeper than he ever let on. There
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  is no disputing that. It's just like the Joe Exotic
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  of the Windsor family. If you had nothing to hide,
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  then why are you lying and being deceitful and playing
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  the fool? From the very beginning, if these people would
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  have just come out and met this head on, they
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  would have done themselves a lot more of a service
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  than trying to hide, trying to obfuscate, trying to act
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  like they don't even know these people, or that these
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  relationships weren't as solid as they really were, because eventually
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  that's all going to come out, right, That's not the
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  kind of stuff that can be hidden forever, especially when
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  these people start falling off, when they're not as powerful
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  as they once were, and people who might have been
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  scared to speak out of line or speak out of
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  turn are now willing to spill the tea and talk
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  about these people, And once they start losing power, you
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  see a lot more of that. Paying one hundred and
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  fifty eight million dollars to save at least one billion
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  seems like a pretty good deal, right, It wasn't enough
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  for Black. He also thought Epstein's one hundred and fifty
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  eight million dollar fee could be deducted in its entirety
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  on his tax returns. So basically, what that's saying is
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  that not only did he have Jeffrey Epstein on retainer
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  to do whatever it is Jeffrey Epstein was doing, he
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  then brazenly and shoving it in everybody else's face writes
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  off Jeffrey Epstein's services on his tax returns. So again,
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  if you think this man is above money laundering or
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  above backwards ass deals or sideways ass smarmy ass deals,
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  think again. Just because people are rich like this guy
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  doesn't mean that they stop being greedy. In fact, it
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  seems like the greed only increases, and we see that
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  time and time and time again. These dudes don't know
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  when enough is enough, and then eventually the greed gets
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  the best of them and they get caught. Hopefully that's
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  what happens with Leon Black, and I really hope, beyond
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  hope that a full forensic financial investigation is underway. Neat trick,
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  pay someone a boatload to save you a fortune in taxes,
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  and then stick Uncle Sam with the bill. But Black
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  believed he could squeeze out that extra one hundred and
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  fifty eight million because Epstein told him so. As it
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  turned out he couldn't. Somebody wasn't able to separate Epstein's
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  good ideas from his bad ones. So this guy has
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  all of this money, all of this power, all of
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  this wealth, has built this huge, powerful ass company and then,
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  on the advice of Bitch ass Jeffrey Epstein thinks that
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  he's going to write off one hundred and fifty eight
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  million dollar supposed fee paid to Epstein. You don't run
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  that by your in house lawyer. You don't run that
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  by your Tom Hagen, your personal Tom Hagen. You don't
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  run that by the law firm that's employed by the
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  company or the legal counsel employed by the company. You
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  just go ahead and go with it. What did your
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  accountant have to say about that? I'm pretty sure that
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  Leon Black isn't sitting around on TurboTax filing his own
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  is okay, So again I ask you what was this
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  money for? And the Wall Street tycoon's inability to follow
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  his own advice about Epstein is a curious thing. Black
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  sixty nine is worth about ten billion dollars and is
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  as savvy and hardbitten as they come. He shouldn't be
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  easy to hoodwink exactly what I was saying yesterday, and
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  now we're gonna add some contact to that in this article, right.
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  But I was saying yesterday when we were talking about
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  Leon Black, that there's zero chance that this dude's getting
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  dog walked into anything by Jeffrey Epstein. Zero chance talk
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  about eyes wide open. After all, he has quite a journey.
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  His father, a Polish immigrant, was a successful investment banker
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  and conglomateour who leaped to his death from a Manhattan
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  skyscraper during a federal bribery investigation while Black was attending
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  the Harvard Business School. And it all comes back to
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  Harvard again, doesn't it. All of these people, it seems like,
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  went to Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, Harvard, the Harvard crew,
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  and now a ton of the new people in the
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  new administration, the new Biden administration also have went to Harvard.
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  I don't know about you, folks, but I've had a
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  belly full of these ivy league folks. My father was
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  God to me, and then he committed suicide. Suicides, you know,
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  aren't usually committed by gods. Black told Bloomberg Business Week
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  last year, it took me years of therapy to get
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  over that and to figure out where he ended. And
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  I began, hey, look, as much as I think Leon
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  Black is a scumbag, SOB I don't relish in the
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  fact that the dude's father leapt to his death. That
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  must be brutally hard to lose your dad, especially if
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  you look up to him and you have him in
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  a godlike status, right, that must be terrible. But let's
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  not sugarcoated here. Leon Black's pops was obviously involved in
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  some fraud, in some bad money business, and instead of
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  facing the music, he decided to hop out of a window.
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  So when we're talking about Leon Black and we're talking
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  about the rest of these people, we have to understand
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  that we're dealing with people who have been like this
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  for generations, where the means justifies the end, and they're
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  so full of hubris and they're so narcissistic that they
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  would rather die than face the music. Black's early career
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  took him to Drexel Burnham, Lambert and Corporated, where he
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  was junk bond king, Michael Milkin's lieutenant and part of
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  a clan of young tuffs who up ended finance and
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  helped launch the massive wave of corporate takeovers until the
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  firm collapsed amid fraud charges against Milkin, well more fraud charges,
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  his dad out the window, his mentor, Michael Milkin fraud,
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  and Leon Black last man standing. Yet where to think
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  that he is squeaky clean? Huh? He is just squeaky clean.
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  There's zero chance that he's squeaky clean. Okay, folks, look
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  at the people he's been around, look at his associates,
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  and the cherry on top is just look at his
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  tight relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Black and other Drexel alums
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  launched Apollo in nineteen ninety, the same year their old
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  firm went bankrupt. Black also became friends with Epstein sometime
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  during the nineties and grew steadily impressed, like many Titans,
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  by Epstein's sterling connections in the arts, academia, and business.
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  So again, another person who's willing to overlook what Jeffrey
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  Epstein was, what he was doing, the kind of person
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  he was, all because it justified the means and it
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  justified the ends. And Leon Black and the rest of
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  these people, they are an absolute embarrassment, Okay, for people
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  who are supposed to be so damn smart. How could
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  they possibly think that we're going to believe that they're
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  so stupid. Black said he knew nothing about his friend's
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  abuse of miners and young women, but he was aware
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  the predator had gone to prison. He believed his friend's
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  excuse that the fourteen year old he solicited had lied
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  about our age and believed he deserved a second chance.
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  So they continued to visit with one another in homes
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  scattered around the world, and they continued to talk about money. Yeah,
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  I'm sure that's all they talked about. I'm sure that
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  they were laser focused on money. We know that Jeffrey
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  Epstein was a braggart and a big mouth. You mean
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  to tell me he wasn't talking about his conquests to
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  his buddy Leon Black, trying to make himself look better,
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  trying to pump his own tires. Of course, he was
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  talking about all these young girls and this and that
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  and the other thing. And the fact that Leon Black
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  would believe this lame ass excuse by Epstein tells you
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  everything you need to know about the person Leon Black is.
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  As in all things Epstein, Black appears to have been
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  a model of tolerance when it came to Red Flags
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  and their financial dealings. To a nifty story from Bloomberg News,
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  Epstein felt empowered enough to terrorize the highly competent team
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  Black had already put in charge of his personal finances.
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  He laid claimed the winning ideas that weren't his promoted
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  financial maneuvers that were easily picked apart and was generally
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  a disruptive and caustic force. So again, please, folks, tell
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  me what was Jeffrey Epstein providing that all of these
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  high profile wonks that were around Leon Black couldn't provide,
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  What was it that Leon Black needed from Jeffrey Epstein.
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  That's the question I'm posing to all of you, because
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  it's rather obvious that Leon Black's team, his financial team,
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  knew that Epstein was a faker, knew that he was
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  a blowhard, and knew that he was no good for
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  Leon Black or the company. Yet Leon Black ignores all
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  of these top notch advisors that he had brought in
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  and had around him and instead defers to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  On the other hand, Epstein seemed to have a talent
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  for tax avoidance. When some estate planning miscues miscues threatened
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  to stick Black and his children with billions of dollars
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  in tax payments, Epstein got busy. One sleight of hand
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  lasted nine months and involved a series of loans between
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  Black and some trusts. Epstein said that Magic Act, a loan,
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  saved Black six hundred million. According to Bloomberg News On
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  it went from twenty twelve to twenty and seventeen to
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  the tune of one hundred and fifty eight million dollars
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  in fees. Then some arguments about fees fractured trust and
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  the end of a close relationship. Yeah, I don't buy
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  any of that. The whole fractured the relationship. More like
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  Leon Black saw what was coming down the pipe, someone
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  tipped them off, and he started to distance himself. That's
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  more like what it means to me, because you know, oh,
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  they had a breakup. Yeah, right, give me a break.
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  And all of the money that was being moved through
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  shell companies and trust funds and all of that. Again,
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  that all needs to be audited. I am sure that
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  there was some sort of malfeason's occurring. Many of Apollo's
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  clients began distancing themselves from the firm as more details
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  emerged since twenty nineteen about Black and Epstein's relationship. Perhaps
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  it was only a matter of time before Apollo found
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  it necessary to alice Black, who was staying on as
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  chairman in what may prove to be something more than
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  a ceremonial role. And again, I don't even think he'll
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  stay on in that capacity. I think when all the
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  dust clears and all of the battle lines are drawn
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  that Joshua Harris is going to have his way and
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  Leon Black is going to be persona non grata within
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  Apollo Global. If Apollo's board hoped its investigation of the
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  Black Epstein nexus might provide closure, it's wrong. The report
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  raises as many questions as it answers, begs for more transparency,
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  and leaves anybody who can't afford to pay one hundred
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  and fifty eight million to save billions, which is almost
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  everybody tuned into the obvious. Leon Black is not the
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  kind of guy to get so easily played, So tell
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  us more and mister O'Brien hits the nail on the
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  head here. There is a lot more to this story.
• 27:48
  Leon Black is not the kind of man to get
• 27:50
  dog walked, and he's certainly not the kind of man
• 27:53
  to get bamboozled by a low end, low level grifter
• 27:59
  like Jeffrey Epstein. If you'd like to contact me, you
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  All right, everybody, I will be back later on and
• 28:35
  we will see what the hell is going on. Then
• 28:39
  catch you all later. Talk about the topic at hand,
• 28:43
  shall we, folks? And that is bitch ass Leon Black.
• 28:47
  That's right. Remember all the bluster about how he was
• 28:50
  gonna counter sue got missus Ganieva. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.
• 28:54
  He's not filing a countersuit because Leon Black knows. Look,
• 29:00
  this guy understands he did all of this. In my opinion, right, Look,
• 29:03
  I don't have the evidence. I can't sit here and
• 29:05
  point to the evidence and say this and this prove
• 29:08
  that Leon Black was engaging in this behavior. I can't
• 29:11
  do that. I don't have that evidence. But I do
• 29:14
  have is an assumption, and that assumption is built on
• 29:19
  the circumstantial evidence that we have before us. Is it
• 29:24
  so out of character of someone like Leon Black, who
• 29:27
  everybody knows as a scoundrel. Everybody knows is thinks he's
• 29:31
  the biggest swinging dick in the room. Is it really
• 29:34
  out of that that much out of the realm of
• 29:36
  possibility or out of the realm of character that this
• 29:39
  man did what Miss Kanieva is saying that he did.
• 29:42
  I don't think so. I don't think so at all.
• 29:45
  In fact, And anyone who's hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein
• 29:49
  and tossing him one hundred and fifty eight million and
• 29:51
  breaking bread with him in the back room, Look, I
• 29:54
  have my suspicions about you, and that's just the way
• 29:58
  it is, you know, I don't. I'm not making any
• 30:02
  bones about it, right, I'm not making pretend or anything
• 30:04
  like that. This is how it is. I don't trust
• 30:06
  these people. Anyone who was involved with Epstein who has
• 30:09
  not come forward to speak to the police after his death, especially,
• 30:13
  I don't trust you. I think you're involved. How about that?
• 30:18
  All right? So this article is from the New York Post.
• 30:21
  The author is Josh Kosman. Headline Leon Black won't file
• 30:26
  countersuit against former Russian model who accused him of rape. Yeah,
• 30:32
  no shit. Look, he doesn't want this to be out
• 30:34
  in the public. He doesn't want it to go to trial.
• 30:37
  Leon Black wants to do what guys like Leon Black
• 30:39
  always want to do pay for it to go away.
• 30:43
  That's what he wants to do, and that's what I mean.
• 30:45
  Come on, let's be very honest folk. How many of
• 30:49
  these people like Leon Black are engaged in this sort
• 30:53
  of behavior and then they just pay to make it
• 30:55
  all go away. We could go through political donor after
• 31:00
  political donor. Who's a scumbag? But guess what, those politicians
• 31:05
  are always there with their hat in hand, aren't they
• 31:08
  with their hand out trying to get a little taste. Meanwhile,
• 31:13
  at the same time, these fucking hypocrites will get up
• 31:16
  there and they'll stand on their ivory towers and shout
• 31:18
  you down. It's absolutely absurd, absolutely absurd. But that's the
• 31:27
  world we find ourselves in, where people like Leon Black
• 31:30
  think they can get away with whatever they want because
• 31:32
  they have a big purse. Well, they're starting to learn
• 31:38
  that that's not always going to be the case. That
• 31:41
  people are fed up, and people like missus ghani Eeva
• 31:45
  are not just gonna take it anymore from people like
• 31:47
  Leon Black. And you could take your non disclosure agreement
• 31:51
  and shove that right up your ass too, pal. Leon
• 31:55
  Black will not file a countersuit after all against the
• 31:59
  former Russian model who accused him of rape. According to
• 32:02
  court documents, Again, he doesn't want to fight that. He
• 32:05
  doesn't want this to become a thing. The last thing
• 32:07
  that moron wants is for this to blow up in
• 32:09
  court and become a thing. He wants it to go away.
• 32:14
  Like all of these rich people, they try and litigate
• 32:17
  it until either a you're broke and you can't litigate
• 32:20
  it anymore, or B it goes away. That's always their strategy,
• 32:25
  that's always their game plan. And when you have more
• 32:29
  money than god, it's easy to do that, right. You
• 32:31
  can burn money. Literally, Leon Black could sit outside and
• 32:35
  burn money every single day and never go broke. So
• 32:38
  you think he has any issue litigating something through the
• 32:41
  court system for decades if it takes that long course. Not.
• 32:45
  And our court system, unfortunately, is built entirely for people
• 32:49
  like this to manipulate the system. Black, the founder of
• 32:55
  Apollo Global Management, had initially filed a countersuit in July
• 32:59
  that said he he had irrefutable documentary evidence that model
• 33:03
  Gazelle Ganieva defamed him when she accused him of raping her. Yeah,
• 33:08
  the big blustery words. Remember when he said that, Remember
• 33:11
  when Leon Black came out and said he had this evidence.
• 33:14
  And remember what I said, all right, let's see it.
• 33:17
  All of these guys talk about all the evidence that
• 33:19
  they're in possession of. I have this amount of evidence.
• 33:22
  I have that evidence. Bah, No, you don't. Now you don't.
• 33:25
  If you had it, you'd be providing it instead of
• 33:28
  giving us your stupid ass conversation. Nobody wants to hear it.
• 33:33
  Either you have evidence or you do not. And the
• 33:36
  fact that he's not filing the countersuit here is pretty damning.
• 33:42
  But after she amended her initial complaint against him, adding
• 33:45
  explosive allegations that Black once fluid to Florida to have
• 33:49
  sex with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, Black's lawyer said in a
• 33:52
  court filing, Yeah, they are no longer going to file
• 33:55
  a counter claim. Oh well, I wonder why. I guarantee
• 34:02
  you what's going on right now is Leon Black and
• 34:04
  his lawyers are trying to press Miss Ganieva out of
• 34:07
  court into taking some kind of settlement to shut all
• 34:10
  of this down. When you got the kind of money
• 34:14
  Leon Black has, that's always your best route. Look, I'll
• 34:17
  give her fifty million to shut her up. And that's
• 34:20
  how these guys. That's how these guys think, how they operate.
• 34:23
  It's there's never any remorse for the actions they commit.
• 34:27
  There's only a lever for them to pull when they
• 34:31
  get caught and say, oh, well, you know, I have
• 34:34
  no idea what's really going on here? Or it's it's pathetic. Honestly,
• 34:40
  these people like Leon Black are absolutely pathetic. They have
• 34:44
  all of this money and all of this power, and
• 34:46
  instead of choosing to do good, they act like absolute
• 34:49
  arch criminals from like the DC universe or something. In
• 34:57
  a little notice filing in New York Supreme Court last week,
• 35:00
  Black said he did not intend to assert counterclaims at
• 35:03
  this time. According to the filing, Black simply wants the
• 35:07
  opportunity to defend himself and doesn't want a counterclaim getting
• 35:11
  in the way of that, delaying the effort. Oh, I'm
• 35:14
  sure that's the only reason. I'm sure it has nothing
• 35:16
  to do with the fact that Leon Black and his
• 35:18
  team know that their goose is gonna be cooked. I'll
• 35:24
  tell you the truth. Look, usually I don't really have
• 35:28
  an opinion about these kinds of cases, you know, he said,
• 35:31
  She said, type of thing. Usually it's one of those
• 35:34
  situations where I'm like, Eh, we need to have more information.
• 35:37
  I don't know. I wasn't there. I have no idea because,
• 35:40
  as you all know, I'm not a believe all women person.
• 35:43
  I'm not a believe all men person. I believe the evidence.
• 35:45
  I understand very much so that men and women both
• 35:49
  are gray characters. So usually in a case like this,
• 35:53
  I'm very hesitant to open my fat yet. But when
• 35:57
  we have a pattern of behavior here, and we have
• 35:59
  someone who is paling around with one of the most
• 36:01
  notorious sexual abusers in my lifetime, well, yeah, the spotlight's
• 36:07
  definitely gonna swing. You are the company you keep. Remember
• 36:11
  when your parents used to tell you that that's a
• 36:13
  bit of advice that Leon Black probably should have followed.
• 36:20
  His priority is to proceed with discovery as expeditiously as
• 36:23
  possible to defend and vindicate himself against her willfully false claims.
• 36:28
  Black's attorney, Daniel Perry of Perry Guja said in the filing,
• 36:33
  And it's always the same thing. Oh, he's ready to
• 36:35
  defend himself against these heinous claims, and then next thing
• 36:39
  you know, there'll be a motion looking for an extension
• 36:41
  of the court trial or some other way to gum
• 36:44
  it all up because that is their own mo. That's
• 36:48
  how these people roll. Again. When you have that kind
• 36:51
  of dough, folks, the game is set up for you.
• 36:56
  All of the pieces are set up in a position
• 36:58
  that's beneficial for you. Meanwhile, Edith and Eddie out there
• 37:05
  meaning me and you, well basically telling us to just
• 37:08
  go get fucked another few days that unemploymental end, and
• 37:12
  people that are on that will fall off a cliff
• 37:14
  and boy will really be in his pickle then, won't we.
• 37:17
  But these politicians don't care anyone who thinks that these
• 37:20
  people who are in charge care about you or me
• 37:23
  or anybody else. I don't even I don't know what
• 37:26
  to say to you, honestly, because they do not. These
• 37:31
  are all leon Blacks buddies. They care about the Leon
• 37:34
  Blacks of the world folks, not me and you. Sources
• 37:40
  familiar with the matter tell the Post that Blacks team
• 37:43
  will file a response to ganiev as amended claim by
• 37:46
  next week's Wednesday deadline. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. They're
• 37:50
  certainly not going to abstain. They're not going to uh
• 37:54
  let this go to absentia like Prince Andrew might. Right,
• 37:57
  No way Leon Black is going to challenge these claims
• 38:00
  in court one way or the other, and I am
• 38:03
  pretty sure there'll be some underhanded tactics that accompany it.
• 38:08
  Kanieve's attorney, Gene Christensen, wrote in court papers that she
• 38:12
  isn't buying it. She claims it was obvious Black wanted
• 38:15
  to tarnish her client in the court of public opinion
• 38:18
  by filing his original countersuit. Exactly right, that's what we
• 38:22
  That was our assumption as well. We know that it
• 38:25
  was character assassination. That's how all of these guys roll.
• 38:29
  The second that anyone points a finger at them. Then
• 38:32
  the women that they were with were all prostitutes. We're
• 38:34
  all hookers. They were all asking for it because they
• 38:37
  were wearing a short dress. I mean, really, look at
• 38:40
  the r Kelly fucking trial. The lawyer was just asking
• 38:43
  about a twerking dance. Isn't that when you shake your
• 38:46
  butt in a sexual or sexual matter like that matters,
• 38:51
  like because you're dancing in a certain manner, that it's
• 38:54
  okay for you to be assaulted? Is that what you're
• 38:56
  is that what you're saying here, it's absolutely uticrius when
• 39:00
  people take that sort of approach, I don't care if
• 39:03
  a man or a woman shows up naked to the event. Okay,
• 39:07
  doesn't give anyone the right to assault them. Sure you
• 39:10
  want to oogle at them, look at them, fine, whatever,
• 39:13
  be a creep. The second you touch somebody in an
• 39:16
  unwonted manner, you have taken it too far and you
• 39:19
  are a scumbag, my friend. Now again, that doesn't mean
• 39:23
  a guy who's out on a date with a girl
• 39:25
  and misreads the situation and goes in for a kiss
• 39:28
  and is denied, as you know, Jeffrey Epstein, or if
• 39:33
  a girl goes in for a kiss on a guy
• 39:34
  and the guy you know what I mean. That's not
• 39:36
  what I mean here. We're talking something completely fucking different.
• 39:42
  When Black opted to allege legal claims against Kanieva, he
• 39:45
  did so on purpose and with the hope that he
• 39:47
  would receive favorable opinions in the media and by the
• 39:50
  public for aggressively defending and vindicating himself. Christiansen said in
• 39:55
  the late Tuesday filing, maybe back in the day that
• 39:58
  would work, but not anymore. If you're innocent of this,
• 40:03
  you can go about it without being a scumback, point blank, period.
• 40:07
  And that's the way to win the public over. Go
• 40:10
  about your business like a functioning adult. Answer questions, be transparent,
• 40:17
  don't assault the character of these people. These girls, Oh
• 40:20
  they were wearing a dress. Ah, they were smoking weed.
• 40:24
  What does that even mean? A news for you? Stop it.
• 40:30
  That is a ridiculous defense. A lawyer who has worked
• 40:33
  with both sexual harassment victims and defendants told the Post
• 40:36
  that Black's move to abandon his countersuit was very unusual.
• 40:41
  One might conclude Black is trying to poison the well
• 40:44
  and not follow through, said Borton, who works with the
• 40:47
  Boyd Law Group. One hundred percent what he was trying
• 40:50
  to do. He was trying to take this to the
• 40:52
  Court of Public Appeals. But that's not going to work
• 40:56
  because the public knows he's a scumbag. The public knows
• 40:58
  that he gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and fifty eight
• 41:01
  million fucking dollars. So no, nobody believes you. Everybody thinks
• 41:04
  you're a scumbag, and in fact, we all think that
• 41:07
  you're guilty. How about that? How about that for the
• 41:11
  Peanut Gallery, clap him back. Black was served with a
• 41:18
  request for documents and information by Ganieva in July. Black
• 41:22
  hasn't produced a single document in response. Christiansen said in
• 41:27
  court papers, imagine not one single response by Black or
• 41:32
  his team. This scumbag bastard, the real slim shady over
• 41:39
  here acting like it's no big deal. Once again, they'll
• 41:43
  try and make it a long term affair. So miss
• 41:45
  Ghanieva doesn't have the viable funds to keep litigating it.
• 41:50
  So I hope that her lawyers take it on the cuff,
• 41:52
  take it pro bono, and afterwards get their payout. I
• 41:57
  know if I was a lawyer, I would spend every
• 42:00
  day of my life going after scumbags like this. I
• 42:03
  swear to you. If I could go back and change
• 42:07
  it all and go back, I would go to school
• 42:08
  and become either a lawyer or some sort of scientist,
• 42:12
  like some sort of cancer researcher. Either way, you're helping
• 42:19
  destroy infection. Because there are way too many scumbag lawyers
• 42:25
  out there that make funky moves. And if I was
• 42:29
  a lawyer somebody who say like the person who's representing
• 42:32
  missus Gonieva, I would make it my lifelong goal to
• 42:37
  blow people like Leon Black right out of the courtroom.
• 42:43
  Black's team counters and its filing that he's been willing
• 42:45
  to provide documents, but only if he's guaranteed confidentiality, which
• 42:50
  Ganieva hasn't agreed to. Why should she. She's already to
• 42:53
  assign the confidentiality agreement. So he wants her to shut
• 42:59
  up more, be quiet more. No. I think that that
• 43:03
  ship is selled and it missed. Ganiheva is going the
• 43:06
  right route here, taking her case public like this, taking
• 43:09
  it to the social media, whatever, whatever have you, because
• 43:12
  you can't rely on the legacy media. They're still saying
• 43:15
  alleged when talking about Jeffrey Epstein assaulting these girls, even
• 43:19
  after his estate paid out one hundred and twenty one
• 43:21
  million dollars alleged uh, as The Post reported exclusively in April.
• 43:28
  Ghanieva first burst into public view in March when she
• 43:32
  posted a series of Twitter messages claiming to have been
• 43:35
  forced to sign a non disclosure agreement relating to allegations
• 43:39
  that Black sexually harassed and abused her and all of
• 43:43
  these dudes with these non prosecute I mean, these these
• 43:46
  non disclosure agreements over relationships. I mean, really, what sort
• 43:52
  of scumbag are you that you have to have somebody
• 43:54
  sign in an agreement after you have a relationship with them.
• 43:57
  Here's an idea. Most of you dudes are married, keep
• 43:59
  your dick your pants, or find a wife that wants
• 44:02
  to be involved. It's not rocket science. But then again,
• 44:07
  these people who call themselves the elite, these people who
• 44:10
  consider themselves are betters. They share seem to be pretty
• 44:13
  fucking stupid, don't They Probably has something to do with
• 44:16
  all the inbreeding, but I digress. Black responded publicly alleging
• 44:26
  she was instead extorting money from him. She then filed
• 44:30
  the defamation suit, now being litigated in New York State
• 44:33
  Supreme Court. Looming over the case are Black's connections to
• 44:37
  Jeffrey Epstein. Gnieva has alleged that Black wanted her to
• 44:41
  have a threesome with Epstein. Black has denied these allegations. Sorry,
• 44:45
  I don't believe you, Leon Black again, mister no receipt,
• 44:48
  Leon Black, Just like your boy Prince Andrew, the Joe
• 44:52
  exotic of the Windsor family, big on words, short on evidence,
• 44:59
  and January, Black agreed to hand the role of Apollo
• 45:02
  CEO to his co founder Mark Rowan after an internal
• 45:06
  Apollo report revealed Black had paid Epstein one hundred and
• 45:10
  fifty eight million dollars for tax advice and the State
• 45:13
  Planning Services after Epstein's two thousand and eight conviction for
• 45:17
  soliciting a minor for prostitution. No such thing as a
• 45:24
  miner who was a prostitute. Okay, let's just get that
• 45:29
  cleared up. And second of all, Leon Black would have
• 45:34
  never been stepping down from his role mister narcissist himself
• 45:39
  if this shit wasn't real, if this shit wasn't about
• 45:42
  to explode, because folks, that's exactly what's about to go on.
• 45:46
  This is about to explode, and Leon Black is not
• 45:49
  going to be able to put this genie back in
• 45:51
  the bottle. And if we were in a world with
• 45:55
  real justice, Leon Black would also be facing a criminal
• 46:00
  investigation the ARICO for his relationship with Epstein. Unfortunately that's
• 46:06
  not the case. So let's hope that Miss Ganieva and
• 46:12
  her claims are the torpedo that sinks Leon Black's ship.
• 46:21
  If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
• 46:22
  at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O.
• 46:27
  B b y c ap you c Ci at ProtonMail
• 46:31
  dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
• 46:34
  Bobby Underscore c ap you Cci also if you prefer
• 46:41
  Reuters and the headline Apollo Ceo Black says he regrets
• 46:46
  ties to Epstein, denies any wrongdoing. This article was authored
• 46:51
  by Chabuki Ogu and Lawrence de Levine. So he says
• 46:58
  he regrets his ties to Epstein, but he denies any wrongdoing.
• 47:01
  And again I made that pretty clear every time I've
• 47:03
  ever talked about this guy and these other bankers, I'm
• 47:07
  not saying that these dudes were involved in the actual
• 47:10
  trafficking part of Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. I'm not saying
• 47:15
  that they were part of any abuse unless one of
• 47:18
  the survivors comes out and says differently. What I am saying, though,
• 47:21
  is that they most certainly enabled Jeffrey Epstein, and it
• 47:25
  certainly looks like they were engaged in some sort of
• 47:28
  financial douche baggery together as well. Now I don't have
• 47:31
  that direct evidence to tie that up in a nice
• 47:34
  little bow for everybody, but I can point to the
• 47:37
  circumstantial evidence, and you know, when it comes down to it,
• 47:41
  Like I said previously, I'm a big believer in Akham's razor. Right.
• 47:46
  So here we are Apollo Global Management Incorporated Chief executive
• 47:56
  Leon Black told the buyout firms investors on Monday, Yeah,
• 48:00
  he regretted having had ties to the late financier and
• 48:04
  convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, but denied any wrongdoing or
• 48:08
  inappropriate conduct related to his business and social relationship with Epstein.
• 48:14
  So again, that's the excuse they'll all use, right, Well,
• 48:18
  I didn't know what he was up to. I didn't
• 48:20
  know this dude was such a pervert. I didn't know
• 48:22
  that he was involved in a child sex trafficking ring.
• 48:25
  I didn't know that he was trafficking women. And that's
• 48:29
  the tired and used excuse that these people have used
• 48:34
  ever since Epstein was arrested the first time around. And
• 48:37
  guess what, Unfortunately it's been okay. People have accepted it,
• 48:42
  the legacy media has accepted it. Nobody has really challenged
• 48:46
  these people on this stuff. And whenever something is brought up, well,
• 48:53
  they want to run away from it as fast and
• 48:56
  as far as they can right no comment, or or
• 49:00
  they'll give you some sort of caned comment or like
• 49:03
  in this instance, they'll play down their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
• 49:07
  even though all of the evidence that we have seen
• 49:11
  points to something completely different. I mean, we're not talking
• 49:14
  about five dollars here, of folks, all right, We're not
• 49:18
  talking about one hundred dollars in a poker game. We're
• 49:21
  not talking about anything like that. We're talking about fifty
• 49:24
  to seventy five million dollars. That's not the kind of
• 49:28
  money you give an acquaintance. That's not the kind of
• 49:30
  money you're just throwing around. Just because of all the
• 49:35
  financial advisors, all of the charitable douchebags running around in
• 49:40
  so called polite society, Jeffrey Epstein was the only one
• 49:46
  that Leon Black could come up with. Stop it, Black
• 49:53
  wrote to the firm's investors after The New York Times
• 49:56
  reported on Monday that he wired between fifty million and
• 50:00
  seventy five million to Epstein as far back as two
• 50:03
  thousand and eight. And remember it wasn't just in two
• 50:07
  thousand and eight, right, The relationships spanned a lot longer
• 50:12
  than that, a much longer from the time where Epstein
• 50:16
  was convicted to the time that they supposedly stopped being friends.
• 50:21
  So you mean, in that whole entire time, Black had
• 50:24
  never heard the rumors of what Jeffrey Epstein truly was
• 50:29
  Black had never heard the rumors or had never heard
• 50:32
  about the non prosecution agreement, not one word. Huh. You know,
• 50:37
  for people that run around and want us to believe
• 50:39
  that they're so smart, they're pretty damn stupid, aren't they.
• 50:47
  Reuters could not determine how long Black continued to wire money. Epstein,
• 50:51
  who was charged by federal prosecutors with sex trafficking last year,
• 50:55
  committed suicide in his New York City jail cell in
• 50:58
  August two thousand and nineteen before his trial, allegedly, and
• 51:06
  as far as determining how long Black continued to wire money,
• 51:10
  it's rather obvious they were homies all the way up
• 51:14
  till that second arrest. And of course it's always the
• 51:19
  same with these people, right, Oh he stole from me,
• 51:21
  or there was some financial miscalculations on my part, or
• 51:26
  my decision making was bad. Never, never any kind of
• 51:31
  real self reflection, right, never really saying and taking responsibility
• 51:38
  for the fact that you weren't just a business Look,
• 51:42
  if you were just a business associate with this guy,
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  then that's one thing, right, But this is a whole
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  different matter. Business associates aren't the ones getting invited to
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  that island Epstein's inner circle and those that he wants
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  to get caught up in his blackmail game. Those are
• 52:02
  the people that are being invited to the island. So
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  my question for Leon Black is which one are you, sir?
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  While Black's business ties to Epstein were already known, the
• 52:15
  Time story outlined previously unreported payments as well as socializing
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  between the two financiers, well, the one scumbag financier at
• 52:24
  the very least, which would be Black, and then the
• 52:26
  pedophile financier, which would be Epstein. You guys, notice a trend.
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  Yet with these so called financiers, it's like socialites. No
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  wonder they go together so well, two scummy ass institutions,
• 52:41
  two scummy ass parts of society. Financier, I'm a financier, Biff,
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  go get the car, We're going to the golf tournament.
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  Give me a break with these people. I mean, I'm
• 52:58
  just sickened by them. The whole off financier and socialite
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  and all of it needs to be crushed under heel.
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  These people truly believe that they are better than the
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  rest of us. I was completely unaware of and continue
• 53:15
  to be appalled by the reprehensible conduct that surfaced at
• 53:19
  the end of twenty and eighteen and led to the
• 53:22
  federal criminal charges brought against mister Epstein. Black wrote to
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  Apollo Fund investors in a letter seen by Reuters. Now remember,
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  we're going to read that letter as well in its
• 53:32
  entirety as soon as we're done with this article. But
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  it's bull Look, it's absolute bullshit. I was completely unaware
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  of and continue to be appalled by the reprehensible conduct
• 53:44
  that surfaced at the end of twenty and eighteen, as
• 53:47
  if it just surfaced in twenty and eighteen. I mean,
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  a monkey with learning disabilities could Google and figure out
• 53:59
  that Jeffrey Epstein was a scumbag. You mean to tell me,
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  mister a hot shot Leon Black, mister Apollo efing Global
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  himself has no idea what Jeffrey Epstein is. And if
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  that's the case, and you're an investor out there, why
• 54:15
  would you put one single dollar into anything that this
• 54:20
  guy's involved with. If he's too stupid to use a
• 54:23
  search engine, why would I let him safeguard my money.
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  An Apollo spokeswoman said that Black acted in a personal
• 54:32
  capacity and that the private equity firm had not done
• 54:35
  any business with Epstein. Apollo shares dropped five point seven
• 54:40
  percent on Monday to close at forty three dollars and
• 54:43
  ninety cents. I love it. Smack him right in the
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  old pocketbook. Oh you want it to hurt. It's like
• 54:51
  kicking this guy in the fruits. When you blast him
• 54:53
  in the pocketbook, folks, take a couple of bucks out
• 54:56
  of this guy's pocket. Forget it. Forget it. That and
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  shame are the two things that move the needal with
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  these people. That is it. That is all. And when
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  I say shame, it's not that they feel shame. I'm
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  talking about shame in the eye of the commoner, right
• 55:14
  the pleab you and I. Because what that does is
• 55:19
  they're no longer invited into their so called polite society anymore,
• 55:23
  and they become persona non grata like we're seeing now.
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  In the wake of Epstein's death and Maxwell's arrest, it
• 55:31
  went from everybody wanting to take a picture with those two,
• 55:34
  everybody wanting to hang out with those two, to everybody
• 55:38
  not knowing who they were. It sure is one large
• 55:42
  ass case of amnesia. Black said in a letter that
• 55:49
  Epstein provided professional services to his family partnership and related
• 55:54
  family entities involving estate planning, tax and philanthropic advice. So
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  again I ask you, Leon Black, one of the richest,
• 56:05
  most powerful men in the world, needs nobody like Jeffrey
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  Epstein for services like family partnership and family entities, real
• 56:16
  estate planning, a state planning, tax and philanthropic advice. You
• 56:24
  mean to tell me that Leon Black didn't have an
• 56:27
  accountant on the team. He didn't have a personal accountant.
• 56:32
  Jeffrey Epstein was the guy. Huh, that's who you turned to,
• 56:36
  mister pedophile, abuser himself, he was that good with numbers. Huh.
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  What was the real reason you were spending so much
• 56:46
  time with him, mister Black? What was the real reason
• 56:51
  there was so much money moving around mister Black. Black
• 56:58
  also said he met EPs from time to time at
• 57:01
  his New York City townhouse and also donated money to
• 57:04
  charitable organizations he did not identify that were affiliated with
• 57:09
  the late financier. Can we quit calling him that reuters? Please? Pedophile?
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  What do you think his estate's going to sue you?
• 57:16
  Con and Endyke are going to sue you. They got
• 57:19
  their own problems, and furthermore, what would they sue you for?
• 57:23
  It's the truth. So let's stop calling them a financier
• 57:28
  in these articles, okay, and let's call him what he is.
• 57:34
  Federal prosecutors and lawyers have sued Epstein more than six
• 57:38
  Epstein's more than six hundred and thirty million dollar estate
• 57:41
  to abstain to obtain compensation for the young women and
• 57:46
  girls he allegedly abused and trafficked. And as to the charities,
• 57:53
  those are the only charities in existence that mister Black
• 57:57
  can donate to. How about you just walk around on
• 58:00
  the streets incognito with stacks of dough and pass it
• 58:04
  out to people on the streets. Nah, you can't do that, right,
• 58:07
  because there's no way for you to profit that way.
• 58:09
  There's no way for you to launder money that way.
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  There's no way for you to virtue signal to the
• 58:14
  rest of the world about how great you are as
• 58:17
  you pass out peanuts to the rest of us. It's
• 58:20
  an absolute joke. I mean, these people are an absolute
• 58:23
  joke with their so called charitable giving. Give me a break,
• 58:28
  all right, all about your image, all about to make
• 58:31
  sure that image is rebuilt. And let's not forget about
• 58:34
  the tax loopholes. Let's not forget about the rite offs.
• 58:39
  These people are seriously, seriously mentally disturbed. In January, US
• 58:50
  Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise George sued the estate, seeking
• 58:54
  claims on behalf of victims he raped and trafficked on
• 58:57
  a private Caribbean island. Blacks. In the letter, he intends
• 59:01
  to cooperate with the US Virgin Islands inquiry and any
• 59:04
  other investigation, so another one. He says, Oh, yeah, I'm
• 59:09
  willing to talk to whoever gonna I'm down with the investigation,
• 59:13
  all right, I'm gonna cooperate, just like the Joe Exotic
• 59:17
  of the Windsor family. And we see how that's turned out.
• 59:20
  We see that that moron hasn't given three seconds of
• 59:24
  his time to the FBI for them to question him.
• 59:28
  And it'll probably be the same here with Black. He'll
• 59:31
  probably try and maneuver his way out of it. He'll
• 59:33
  probably make it a situation where you know, oh, I'll
• 59:37
  give a written statement and they'll probably be okay with it,
• 59:40
  because you know, he's so rich and all that's all
• 59:42
  that really matters is how rich he is, how much
• 59:45
  money he has, and how he can manipulate the system
• 59:48
  and maneuver behind the scenes using loopholes. How many times
• 59:53
  do we talk about that? Huh? All the loopholes, all
• 59:56
  of the technicalities, that is how these people are able
• 1:00:00
  to operate. There is only one way to get rid
• 1:00:03
  of it. There is only one way to fix it,
• 1:00:06
  and that is to vote out every single one of
• 1:00:08
  these incumbents who has been party to it. And then
• 1:00:12
  the people that we do send to Washington, DC, we
• 1:00:15
  have to hold them accountable and make sure that they
• 1:00:19
  get rid of these technicalities, that they get rid of
• 1:00:22
  these loopholes, and that we somehow some way crushed the
• 1:00:28
  two tier justice system. All right, So here's the letter
• 1:00:34
  that Leon Black wrote to the investors October twelfth, twenty twenty.
• 1:00:43
  Dear limited partner. In July twenty nineteen, I wrote to you.
• 1:00:49
  I wrote to you to address my relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
• 1:00:52
  given the intense media coverage at the time. As I
• 1:00:56
  stated then, there is nothing more important to Apollo and
• 1:00:59
  to me personally than our relationship with our investors and
• 1:01:03
  limited partners in the funds that we manage. Earlier today,
• 1:01:07
  the New York Times published a story describing my relationship
• 1:01:10
  with mister Epstein. I am writing again to make sure
• 1:01:14
  that you have all of the relevant information. So it's
• 1:01:19
  that important, right, and that much of it hits home
• 1:01:23
  that he thought that it was time for him to
• 1:01:26
  go ahead and jump in and write this letter because
• 1:01:30
  he was trying to cut this off at the past. Right.
• 1:01:32
  He doesn't want this to blow up any more than
• 1:01:35
  it has. He doesn't want this to become more of
• 1:01:38
  a serious situation than it already has and continue to
• 1:01:43
  grow and metastasize. He wants to make sure that he
• 1:01:48
  gets out in front of this. He wants to make
• 1:01:50
  sure that he's controlling the narrative. First. I want to
• 1:01:55
  reemphasize certain important facts from my prior letter. Never did
• 1:02:00
  any business with mister Epstein at any point in time.
• 1:02:04
  Neither mister Epstein nor any company controlled by him ever
• 1:02:08
  invested in any funds managed by Apollo. So what he's
• 1:02:11
  trying to do here is distant Apollo from this situation
• 1:02:15
  and take full responsibility personally, but not put the responsibility
• 1:02:22
  at Apollo's feet. Shrewd attempt but very transparent. For a
• 1:02:30
  period of six years, mister Epstein provided professional services to
• 1:02:34
  my family partnership and related family entities involving estate planning,
• 1:02:40
  tax and philanthropic advice. No other Apollo employees ever engaged
• 1:02:45
  mister Epstein or used his professional services. On a few occasions,
• 1:02:49
  I donated money to certain charitable organizations with which mister
• 1:02:54
  Epstein was affiliated, and he made contributions to certain charitable
• 1:02:58
  organizations that are meaning to me. Lastly, and most importantly,
• 1:03:03
  I was completely unaware and continue to be appalled by
• 1:03:07
  the reprehensible conduct that surfaced at the end of twenty
• 1:03:11
  eighteen and led to federal criminal charges brought against mister Epstein,
• 1:03:17
  such bs you didn't know, huh, you had no idea, Yeah,
• 1:03:21
  no idea. And what you guys were just trading charitable
• 1:03:25
  donations to each other's charities. You have more money than God,
• 1:03:28
  the both of you. Why don't you just donate to
• 1:03:30
  those charities yourself? Why do you got to drag Jeffrey
• 1:03:33
  Epstein into it? Why does Jeffrey Epstein have to drag
• 1:03:36
  you into it? What else is that play here? What
• 1:03:39
  are the underlying currents? My friends? None of the reporting
• 1:03:47
  in the recent New York Times article is inconsistent in
• 1:03:50
  any way with the information I shared with you over
• 1:03:53
  a year ago. As I previously stated, mister Epstein provided
• 1:03:57
  professional services to entity he's affiliated with my family regarding
• 1:04:02
  real estate planning, tax and philanthropic endeavors. I have never
• 1:04:09
  tried to conceal these facts. It is true that I
• 1:04:11
  paid mister Epstein millions of dollars annually for his work,
• 1:04:15
  which he provided from twenty twelve to twenty and seventeen. Yeah,
• 1:04:20
  that's nice. After he was a convicted sex offender, So
• 1:04:23
  you gave him millions of dollars so he could facilitate
• 1:04:25
  his crimes against these other girls. If I was one
• 1:04:29
  of these girls who was assaulted after twenty and twelve
• 1:04:32
  when you were financing this asshole, I'd sue you to
• 1:04:35
  you scumbag. It is also worth noting that all of
• 1:04:40
  mister Epstein's advice was vetted by leading auditors, law firms,
• 1:04:45
  and other professional advisors. So why bring him on board
• 1:04:48
  in the first place. If you were just gonna vet
• 1:04:50
  his shit and pay him millions of dollars, why bring
• 1:04:53
  him on board in the first place. What were you
• 1:04:55
  really doing, mister Black. Importantly, there has never been allegations
• 1:05:05
  by anyone, including The New York Times, that I engaged
• 1:05:08
  in any wrongdoing or inappropriate conduct. The New York Times
• 1:05:12
  story reports instances in which I spent time with mister Epstein.
• 1:05:16
  For example, I traveled with mister Epstein to Boston to
• 1:05:19
  meet with several prominent Harvard professors as part of my
• 1:05:23
  family's philanthropic efforts. Two of my children traveled with me
• 1:05:28
  and joined the meetings. Again, the children, every single one
• 1:05:31
  of these guys that gets caught with their hand in
• 1:05:33
  the cookie jar while my kids were with me, or
• 1:05:36
  I was with the esteemed members of the Harvard Professor League. Yeah, right,
• 1:05:40
  esteemed members. There are all a bunch of pervert devians too.
• 1:05:44
  How about that, all the ones that were hanging out
• 1:05:47
  with Jeffrey Epstein anyway. I mean, the absolute and utter
• 1:05:55
  denials of these people of reality is just mind numbing
• 1:05:59
  to me. On a separate occasion, my family and I
• 1:06:07
  made a short visit to mister Epstein's private island and
• 1:06:10
  had a picnic lunch with him while on a family
• 1:06:13
  holiday nearby. As the story notes, both instances were isolated
• 1:06:18
  and time to time. I also met mister Epstein at
• 1:06:22
  his townhouse in New York City because that is where
• 1:06:25
  he conducted business. Mister Epstein did not have a separate
• 1:06:28
  professional office. No, he had a whole building full of them. Though,
• 1:06:32
  you guys couldn't have had lunch at your office. You
• 1:06:35
  guys couldn't have had lunch at a restaurant. You had
• 1:06:37
  to go to the townhouse. Huh did you get a
• 1:06:39
  massage ever, mister Black. Finally, the story reports that the
• 1:06:47
  US Virgin Islands Attorney General is seeking information from me
• 1:06:50
  and many others, including numerous large financial institutions such as
• 1:06:55
  JP Morgan City, Wells Fargo and BNP Parabis all as
• 1:07:00
  third party witnesses, and a civil investigation of mister Epstein's business.
• 1:07:05
  I of course intend to cooperate fully with this and
• 1:07:09
  any other inquiry. So you see what he does there, right?
• 1:07:13
  He tries to low key ad all of those other
• 1:07:15
  financial institutions to make it look like well, they're under
• 1:07:19
  questioning too. So how bad can it be? Well, mister Black,
• 1:07:22
  it can be bad. It's real bad. Okay. We've seen
• 1:07:26
  the fence and files, we've read the Panama papers, and
• 1:07:31
  we've lived with your predatory behavior. Our whole entire lives.
• 1:07:36
  Everything we do from applying for a new loan for
• 1:07:39
  a car to getting a credit card or sending our
• 1:07:42
  children to college. You the banksters are involved, and you
• 1:07:48
  the banksters, are praying upon the people. Over the past
• 1:07:56
  three decades, everyone out Apollo has worked tirelessly not only
• 1:08:00
  to achieve the best possible returns on behalf of our
• 1:08:03
  valued investors, but also to do so in a manner
• 1:08:07
  governed by certain core principles integrity, decency, and adherence to
• 1:08:13
  the highest moral and ethical principles. I am extremely proud
• 1:08:17
  of everything we have accomplished over fifteen years. Excuse me,
• 1:08:22
  everything that we have accomplished over this time, working closely
• 1:08:25
  with you, with the benefit of hindsight, and knowing everything
• 1:08:30
  that has come to light about mister Epstein's despicable conduct
• 1:08:33
  more than fifteen years ago. I deeply regret having any
• 1:08:37
  involvement with him. These reports, however, will not distract from
• 1:08:41
  the extraordinary the extraordinary work of our exceptional people at Apollo,
• 1:08:46
  who wake up every morning focused on helping you accomplish
• 1:08:51
  your important missions. If you have any further questions, please
• 1:08:56
  please do not hesitate to contact Stephanie Pressure at phone number.
• 1:09:03
  Uh It's in the article, so if you want the
• 1:09:06
  phone number, click on the link in the article and
• 1:09:08
  you can get it there. The email blah blah blah
• 1:09:12
  all of that is in the letter as well. Um. Yeah,
• 1:09:16
  so that's the letter from Leon Black. Folks. Okay, this
• 1:09:19
  is the kind of this is what this guy thinks
• 1:09:21
  about the whole situation, Like it's just gonna blow on over,
• 1:09:24
  Like it's just, you know, a big misunderstanding the fact
• 1:09:27
  that you gave a convicted sex offender seventy five million dollars,
• 1:09:34
  gave him the keys to the castle and help fund
• 1:09:39
  his criminal enterprise. Yeah. I think that people are a
• 1:09:43
  bit interested in you and mister Black and what you
• 1:09:46
  have going on. And I have to tell you, with
• 1:09:49
  all of that money moving one way and the other
• 1:09:53
  with mister Black and Jeffrey Epstein, you would have to
• 1:09:58
  think if, in when this becomes a reco case, that
• 1:10:02
  mister Black might be getting another knock on his door.
• 1:10:07
  If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
• 1:10:09
  at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
• 1:10:13
  B B y c A p U c c I
• 1:10:16
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• 1:10:19
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