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- 0:20Speaker 1: Welcome to episode 152, we reach 152, the Kori Shepard podcast.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Welcome back.
- 0:25Speaker 1: How are you doing?
- 0:25Speaker 1: I feel like it's a long time I haven't talked to a very, very, very, very long week and long weekend.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I haven't looked forward to that episode.
- 0:34Speaker 1: So in a long time I think as much as people is always, come and tell me let's see how much podcast has helped them to the week.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Again, the idea you're finding this on YouTube or anywhere where you're listening to things right In case you're listening to the full story like and share and subscribe on whatever is on our friend, whatever you used to say on YouTube.
- 0:52Speaker 1: But usually people just tell me how it's getting through the little exercise or the things they have to do during the course of the day or whenever long drive or the long commute and people are all.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Thank my great for all the kind comments about the podcast and things.
- 1:06Speaker 1: But let me tell you something this episode this week is for me because after the week and the weekend I had, this is my little opportunity to come and de-stress.
- 1:16Speaker 1: So just like how I just help with de-stress or let go help me de-stress this week.
- 1:20Speaker 1: And I want to start with first things first, I want to congratulate everybody and anybody who was involved in making the world steel band day.
- 1:48Speaker 2: From two comps to men.
- 1:50Speaker 2: All the steel bands for their excellent talent and fame they brought to Nidardian.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Take this little tip from the tarot yes, sir, steel band come to stay forever.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Yes, I can hear me, as in England Everybody want to learn the big band.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Now they want to organize a police steel band in Britain.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yeah, go with me fast song play the door.
- 2:16Speaker 2: I'm playing music and you're where you go.
- 2:20Speaker 2: What a talent.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Excellent talent.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Is there what?
- 2:25Speaker 2: I say Steel band music is the greatest talent to be Trinidad, the founder of the steel band Now the talent is widely extended to other islands.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Even quite in Europe and Australia People love to help the steel orchestra.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Yes, in parts dances and wedding, but your life is a steel band thing To do.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Dog, what I say Come to stay forever.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Yes, go with me fast.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Song, play the door.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I'm playing music and you're where you go.
- 3:21Speaker 2: What a talent, excellent talent is there?
- 3:25Speaker 2: What I say, steel band music, is the greatest talent to be.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Reading from Michael Mundezi.
- 3:32Speaker 1: This is from the Express.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Of course, michael Mundezi always had some pretty cultures, always.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Today being the August 10th from this year going forward, today, the rest of the planet will join Trinidad and Tobago in celebrating World Steel Band Day.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The stage is set across the nation's capital for a full day of history, art and music, all dedicated to the national instrument.
- 3:57Speaker 1: On July 22nd, minister of Tourism, culture and the Arts, randall Mitchell, introduced the resolution and secured the declaration of August 11th, of August 11th as well as World Steel Band Day and at the 77th UN General Assembly in New York, usa.
- 4:12Speaker 1: So the official date is the 11th of August and I like how it kick off.
- 4:18Speaker 1: I like how it kick off because I saw Woodford Square turn into a pandemonium and I also saw Times Square turn into some pandemonium.
- 4:26Speaker 1: So Pansai is all around the world, it seemed as came together and make sure that we commemorate this in the right way.
- 4:31Speaker 1: This could mean a little bit of work, not just to get a day officially declared as World Steel Band Day, but also to get enough people who in PAN whether it be Pansai, panis or whoever lighting up the social media with performances and so on to commemorate the day.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I like that.
- 4:50Speaker 1: That could only grow from strength to strength, and there's something I always talk about that we need more of.
- 4:56Speaker 1: This is what we need more of.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I want you to observe now, right, how, within years to come, this day is going to continue to get bigger and bigger and turn into a celebration.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Let me give you an example.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I always hear on Valentine's Day and Christmas and these kind of these spending times now.
- 5:13Speaker 1: So talk about the fact that somebody sitting on home make up something.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Sorry, religious people.
- 5:18Speaker 1: They make up Christmas too.
- 5:18Speaker 1: They make up a festival.
- 5:20Speaker 1: They make up a time a year where you are supposed to be jolly and happy and leave cookies for fat people coming by.
- 5:26Speaker 1: They make up times a year and it caused us to all feel celebratory, to feel reverent.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Oh, it's called to feel reverence.
- 5:35Speaker 1: So these things are, even though it's man made, constructs.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Basically, with enough time and tradition, it's starting to become something now that everybody's celebrating.
- 5:46Speaker 1: So, just like how Mother's Day starts over that thing.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day, love you, mommy.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Then it's going to make card for Mother's Day.
- 5:53Speaker 1: All of a sudden, is I stop earrings and diamond rings, you know?
- 5:57Speaker 1: I mean, I go all out for Mother's Day and also the reality is that making up a day as every day of the year means something Also.
- 6:06Speaker 1: For instance, listen Stacy's always tell me, stop saying these things right, but is it world don't syndrome?
- 6:11Speaker 1: They were, these were different kind of socks that just wasn't made up thing.
- 6:15Speaker 1: They wanted to commemorate or bring awareness to don't syndrome and they use socks.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Something to do with chromosomes and things are close by fire, but something to do with some chromosome.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Missing about it is a 35th, 36th.
- 6:27Speaker 1: You think a man will inform himself if you feel for you coming and talking.
- 6:31Speaker 1: But the that has become such a popular thing now that you see on social media everybody's celebrating it and wearing the socks and commemorations.
- 6:40Speaker 1: What do we do for Steel Pan Day?
- 6:42Speaker 1: Is it that we do more and more?
- 6:43Speaker 1: We add things?
- 6:44Speaker 1: Is it a Steel Pan Day that I could kind of get a gift for playing pansongs?
- 6:48Speaker 1: Can I expect some kind of gift coming my way?
- 6:52Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Why not?
- 6:54Speaker 1: If you could give gift for all these other festivals or days, why not?
- 6:57Speaker 1: I'm going back to Michael Montesey.
- 6:58Speaker 1: He said in order that there's a ride.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Pantrumbago will get the Pants party started at noon today at Woodford Square, port of Spain, the Pants are back.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Performances from 11 single pan bands, including National Panorama, single Pan Champs, chord Masters, the original Woodbrook Modern, air's Nostrand Symphony, unistar's Jarroot Steel Band, panangels, laramain, super Vibes, worldwide Massitions, royal Stars, pan Symphony and Pan Elites.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The celebratory ramage is set to continue late into the evening when 8th Conventional Large Bands push their instruments into the square Raining National Panorama, champions, bprenigades, national Steel Symphony Orchestra, massey, trinidad, all-stars, despos, hadcoface, 2-pan Groove, nutrient, silver Stars, first Citizen, supernovas and Heritage, petroleum Skiffle.
- 7:45Speaker 1: All set up here.
- 7:47Speaker 1: And they did, and it was a great day.
- 7:50Speaker 1: According to the quotation here from Beverly Ramsey Moore, pantrumbago President, which I agree with, it's really a victory for Ellie Manette, bertie Marshall, neville Jules, anthony Williams, winston Spreese-Simon and many others upon whose backs we stand.
- 8:07Speaker 1: These are the people who first exposed Pantrumbago to the world.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Bands like Trinidad, all-stars, steel Pantrumbago, all steel percussion, steel orchestra.
- 8:18Speaker 1: This is a victory for them, I agree.
- 8:20Speaker 1: I feel like it's something that we should cherish.
- 8:25Speaker 1: We must make sure, as they make up and forget everything else, that happened right, because people like to go back to the fact that we don't have the patents and we don't have that and the teaching pan.
- 8:34Speaker 1: They say Japan will take Pan and things.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Pan is globally recognized as coming from Trinidad and Tobago and we are the owners of the thing.
- 8:41Speaker 1: So we must always continue to ensure that we cherish it, hone it.
- 8:48Speaker 1: If this is our day, we must turn this into a tourist attraction.
- 8:52Speaker 1: We must do things here or in other places that cause anybody who interested in pan or to bring more people interested in pan in the first place, but for anybody who interested in pan to want to come here to celebrate World Steel Pan Day.
- 9:05Speaker 1: We don't have to wait for Canoval.
- 9:08Speaker 1: This is another opportunity for another season we could have and maybe rethink how we make it.
- 9:12Speaker 1: We steal Pan part of the Canoval Festival or make it its own festival.
- 9:17Speaker 1: So I have some pan tune line up and I had a few different ideas for what to do today.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Right, because as much as I celebrated this election is tonight right.
- 9:26Speaker 1: But here's my problem with this election thing that last time we had an election episode it was one o'clock in the morning.
- 9:31Speaker 1: They had me up, no, trying to figure out who win.
- 9:34Speaker 1: I'm not a young man.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You see me stay in the same kind of hours.
- 9:37Speaker 1: That don't work very well for me at all.
- 9:39Speaker 1: But it's an election day and I have a I do I injustice to somebody on this podcast before right, and when you're wrong people you must apologize like a road of bads.
- 9:53Speaker 1: When you're wrong people, you must make your apology and make your public apology and let it be known that you know you're sorry for doing whatever you did, because you know it's only fair.
- 10:02Speaker 1: You can't just leave things out in Europe like that right.
- 10:05Speaker 1: And a long time ago in Bethlehem, when they had an election, I made a little song.
- 10:12Speaker 1: One day I'll come into this.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Let me say this because I have an idea to do this and I am doing it.
- 10:16Speaker 1: So I will say it to hopefully get my moving right.
- 10:18Speaker 1: I go in and take all these songs that I make on this podcast, the ones that I sing for myself it was all these people's song, right but the ones who I remake lyrics and I take and I go in and make that on an album, a collectible.
- 10:30Speaker 1: People always ask me about merch and what I do on the podcast and at one time I have a friend thank God, a listener had sent me.
- 10:39Speaker 1: What was it?
- 10:40Speaker 1: A glass, a little drinking glass.
- 10:41Speaker 1: So look at my guy, daniel, it's on my little drinking glass.
- 10:44Speaker 1: You know what I mean To take my little sips and people always ask me oh, with my glass and the all right.
- 10:49Speaker 1: So the first piece of merch I go and bring out, I go and get a physical album done.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I know I will do it on the physical CD.
- 10:55Speaker 1: You might never be able to listen, but I'm going to put a record.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I'm going to make my own album of all these songs that sing, where I take people's song and sing all kind of lullabot people.
- 11:03Speaker 1: But it have one particular Calypso who will make a song about last election, and I wanted to use this episode to clean that up, because as much as they make joke out to the man, you must also honor one of the greatest to ever do it in our history, which I will get to.
- 11:20Speaker 1: But in the midst of all that, I really have a few pan song lineup too.
- 11:25Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Let's go.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Ah, for anywhere you pass, you can hear a steel band.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Of course, steel band musicians playing modern orchestrations.
- 12:06Speaker 3: I heard the heroes are.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Yes, paradeaux, all star and Tokyo.
- 12:11Speaker 2: So simple, renegade and Sambali, and, of course, sipali and Abang from Tala Pila, I don't know.
- 12:21Speaker 2: I was only told that someone's going to tell the world the heroes yes, longtime John Williams, one of the most famous musicians, when he heard a steel band play.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Well, you would be shocked to hear what they say, but it has worked.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Now is the steel band's got the name jazz musicians struggling for feel they're eating the bread that they devoured.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I heard the heroes are yes, paradeaux, all star and Tokyo.
- 13:05Speaker 2: So simple, renegade and Sambali, and, of course, sipali and Abang from Tala Pila?
- 13:15Speaker 2: I don't know, I was only told those are some bands going to tell the world the heroes.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Well, they say no joke.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Panpoji had musicians out of work, some of them with tears in their eyes.
- 13:30Speaker 2: They're looking for walking past them excise.
- 13:32Speaker 2: When some of them joined the police force to lock up some of the band men, of course, but this is what the public declare.
- 13:39Speaker 2: There's only the steel bands.
- 13:41Speaker 2: They want to hear the heroes, all star and Tokyo.
- 13:46Speaker 2: So simple, renegade and Sambali, sipali and Abang from Tala Pila.
- 13:56Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 13:57Speaker 2: I was only told those are some bands going to tell the world the heroes, steel bands discovered in Senegal, to mention I'm popular and glad making an oil drum an instrument.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Well, when you think of it, that is excellent.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Men like Neville Jules and Nele Manet, those are steel bands that we can't forget, for day by day they put in their heart and soul to make steel bands.
- 14:34Speaker 2: The next one Now rub the wool.
- 14:37Speaker 2: The heroes All star and Tokyo.
- 14:40Speaker 2: So simple, renegade and Sambali and, of course, sipali and Abang from Tala Pila.
- 14:50Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 14:51Speaker 2: I was only told those are some bands going to tell the world the heroes.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Great voice to the one terror and my voice that really hard to mistake.
- 15:03Speaker 1: You know the hard man to mistake.
- 15:05Speaker 1: You must know when you're hearing terror.
- 15:07Speaker 1: And I tell you there's a few pan songs that are lined up before I get into this.
- 15:10Speaker 1: One of the things that I really feel good about in pan music is that I don't know what this is for everybody.
- 15:17Speaker 1: When I was young, as a little fellow growing up, pan and pan music I'd never really liked pan that much.
- 15:22Speaker 1: It was too loud for me, it was too noisy, and I will also say the same about any big band music.
- 15:29Speaker 1: So my father was playing in Song Rev.
- 15:32Speaker 1: I was too small I couldn't remember that.
- 15:34Speaker 1: I remember him playing in a band called Avengers and a band called Jackie Johnson XL and the next band he used to play he played with Atlantic.
- 15:43Speaker 1: A couple of times Atlantic had a band room in St James so when he ever comes to play with Atlantic I will go them.
- 15:47Speaker 1: They told me Prescott singing with Atlantic and as a little child I remember going on In St James day by where's culture in.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Now so little boy, kevin Lucas.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Where culture in is now Don steers there, that's Kevin Lucas.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Are calling Lucas's Hotel, right where it's called their hotel or motel.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Well, it was called a hotel.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I in.
- 16:08Speaker 1: I say in.
- 16:08Speaker 1: So where that in is now is where song rev band room used to be down in it like a down in a low building there, and I Remember going in that room and the music was so loud.
- 16:20Speaker 1: It was a small room and a soul.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I can't hear any one instrument, it was just noise to me.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Same thing in Atlantic band room.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Same thing like Always remember by time he was playing Jackie Johnson.
- 16:32Speaker 1: So those are, jackie Johnson excelled a lot of big O'Ban.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:34Speaker 1: By the time he was playing Jackie Johnson I was big enough to go a little fat, you know, I mean Maybe a teenager still so going with them and I remind particular one time going to King George and listening to him playing.
- 16:47Speaker 1: When he come he say how you find a song and I was like boy, I don't hear, I can't hear nothing, you play it, just everything song in like one big song.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I will say that after years of you know, I mean playing music and being around bands and being in them, noisy situations, from not being able to hear anything at all or just hearing one big, heavy, noisy sound.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Now I could hear everything I say everything happening in our band, right, every sound, and there's a.
- 17:12Speaker 1: I like that.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I like the fact that I could do that.
- 17:14Speaker 1: So now I get in the older years, get better Appreciation for pan than what I have before.
- 17:19Speaker 1: My appreciation for pan really come from me and my boy, pablo, going in the north stand jam people no, I mean, and we just used to enjoy that.
- 17:28Speaker 1: But the pan to me had seemed like something.
- 17:31Speaker 1: No, that's all people think is only old people see and following pan and playing pan and them guys.
- 17:35Speaker 1: It wasn't to me a young person and I don't know if I was.
- 17:38Speaker 1: You need personal perception or if people used to see that way, but I will say no, that certainly.
- 17:42Speaker 1: These youths now pick up and embrace pan in a different way and You're seeing more and more right, like when you go and you look at a Michael Montesey article what the express route are.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Sorry, the Guardian router a great article as well.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Hundreds attended inaugural will pan steel based steel.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Hundreds attended inaugural will still pan.
- 18:03Speaker 1: The celebrations in porous pain.
- 18:06Speaker 1: The international community banded together Yesterday evening to celebrate the first ever will still pan there, which was Recently added to the United Nations as calendar.
- 18:15Speaker 1: They didn't recharge for the festivals as the iconic instruments was the iconics Was the iconic instruments home country.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Hundreds descended on wood foot square, port of Spain, for the panchon bagel celebration.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Every creed and race, young and old, rich and poor found an equal place at the square last evening, dancing and swaying to the rhythmic sounds that are now synonymous with the island.
- 18:35Speaker 1: This is indeed the unfolding a greatness.
- 18:38Speaker 1: But Pantry and bagel, president, beverly Ramsey, mortal guardian media, when you look at what's happening in the people's parliament of wood foot square, we have more than 10,000 persons present here today.
- 18:48Speaker 1: It is telling, is telling a story, that pan is Trinidad and Tobago.
- 18:53Speaker 1: And can you defy the world?
- 18:56Speaker 1: Pan is passion.
- 18:56Speaker 1: I am extremely pleased and extremely happy to see pan display, to see pan display in this Magnificent way in the land of its booth.
- 19:05Speaker 1: It's anti-concealed in New York also took the time square with celebrations last night.
- 19:10Speaker 1: During the celebrations, tnt messages came in from countries like Japan.
- 19:13Speaker 1: According to Ramsey, more the day was also observed in other Caribbean islands, canada and Europe.
- 19:18Speaker 1: On the 24th of July, united Nations declared 11th of August, as will still pandy after a draft Resolution was bought by brought by Minister tourism culture, not Randall Mitchell and Mitchell walking out of this.
- 19:30Speaker 1: I thought I thought I thought I saw Miranda Mitchell do what I thought I let's say you don't know.
- 19:33Speaker 1: So you're seeing that and when you look at the photos from this article or the Michael Mondaysie article or On social media or anywhere that was talking about, will see the pan.
- 19:44Speaker 1: The way you're seeing is a good, bitter youths and he makes.
- 19:47Speaker 1: They're seeing some of the older heads to her, which is good, any combination with her youths, and the older heads are on them talking about passing on things from generation to generation, which is good.
- 19:57Speaker 1: But when you watch what Again, josh for a grillo, I hope I'll be right one now panman, right, panman and Chukery and these youths doing them, taking a certain ownership upon and making it cool, making it Trendy for the youths to embrace and be a part of.
- 20:16Speaker 1: I like that.
- 20:17Speaker 1: I find that's inspiring.
- 20:18Speaker 1: So that's why I say, even though I had a plan, it would be so nice if them youths from from as early age as possible, who playing in junior panorama and who choose a career or hobby or to choose pannas, the instrument, could start going around again.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I feel for songs like these.
- 21:04Speaker 5: I Say to me the one time musical change in Pan.
- 21:26Speaker 5: Well, I didn't tell them yes, but I didn't tell them no.
- 21:29Speaker 5: I say, well, gentlemen, I don't do the best I can as long as you challenge me.
- 21:35Speaker 5: Well, I go forever go.
- 21:37Speaker 5: The only big crazy that they were getting and appreciate something new.
- 21:44Speaker 5: So I thought it was to change to the mine.
- 21:47Speaker 5: I got to see really who is who.
- 21:53Speaker 4: Big bang, who's the entertainer?
- 21:54Speaker 4: Big bang, bring me out the miner.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Big bang, what come?
- 21:58Speaker 2: the professor.
- 21:59Speaker 5: Big bang to add to the fire Big bang are calling on Bradley Big bang to challenge Beverly Big bang, which mean the small adult Big bang.
- 22:07Speaker 4: What answer do you have?
- 22:10Speaker 4: You're going to hear a panning, a miner With a steel bun from all over the one I had in my bag.
- 22:18Speaker 4: You'll be going to a classic.
- 22:20Speaker 4: When I had them on the past Burning the grass, big bang, big bang, big bang, big bang.
- 22:59Speaker 5: Big bang.
- 23:00Speaker 5: I walk around the room and I started to create.
- 23:06Speaker 5: I know how to prove to them I have the ability.
- 23:11Speaker 5: I dare land and decide.
- 23:12Speaker 5: The miner should dominate, if not entirely.
- 23:16Speaker 5: For most of the melody You'll notice the chorus carries a simple hook From a 7 to a minor it's ready to sign.
- 23:28Speaker 5: To give you a strange new look On the road to fall for a mountain.
- 23:35Speaker 5: Big bang, they tell me carefully.
- 23:36Speaker 5: Big bang preparing already.
- 23:38Speaker 5: But something just tell me Big bang, I'm very not easy, no one ever mentioned the strength of blue diamond For getting up sand old Would upset the whole show.
- 23:53Speaker 5: You're going to hear a panning, a miner With a steel band from all over.
- 23:58Speaker 5: You're going to hear them at the best You'll be going to a classic.
- 24:02Speaker 5: When I had them on the past, burning the grass.
- 24:04Speaker 5: Big bang, big bang, big bang, big bang.
- 24:12Speaker 5: I want the voice to know.
- 24:46Speaker 5: The grandmaster wish you well.
- 24:49Speaker 5: Following the instruction, you should be sung in sweet.
- 24:52Speaker 5: I do.
- 24:53Speaker 5: Since then he hoped every single band excel.
- 24:56Speaker 5: I know you're going to have the crowd Falling over their feet.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Remember you're fighting for tonal quality, the strength of cannibal and good friends, arrangement and interpretation.
- 25:10Speaker 5: Thirdly, as the wind, all the judges pray.
- 25:14Speaker 5: Big bang.
- 25:16Speaker 5: They say gas a blanker.
- 25:18Speaker 5: Big bang, some band from a reamer.
- 25:23Speaker 5: They master the miner.
- 25:24Speaker 5: But I know you can't trust so low on exodus.
- 25:28Speaker 5: All we'll be hoping to Destroy it tomorrow.
- 25:33Speaker 4: You're going to hear a panning a miner.
- 25:37Speaker 5: With a steel band from all over, you're going to hear them.
- 25:42Speaker 5: At the best You'll be going to a classic.
- 25:44Speaker 5: When I had them on the past, burning the grass Big bang, big bang, big bang, big bang.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Big bang, big bang.
- 26:33Speaker 4: Big bang, big bang.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Sweetness.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Last week I played all kinds of bad man tunes and I leave out Kitchener.
- 26:50Speaker 1: He was really one of the bads to it Because Kitchener is some real when it comes to licking and beating people.
- 26:57Speaker 1: He was up to me last week too.
- 26:58Speaker 1: He's going to pay attention to the way he says that.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Good thing, I just try and talk and keep my language in a certain way.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Zachary come and ask me how to do blue.
- 27:07Speaker 1: He said daddy, what does daddy mean?
- 27:11Speaker 1: I said what, what does daddy mean?
- 27:15Speaker 1: When he played this song With all the shorty, I said go ahead.
- 27:20Speaker 1: I said I said.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I'll ask your mother, don't bring that to me, because I don't want to know.
- 27:28Speaker 1: I don't know nothing.
- 27:31Speaker 1: One of the other things I want to say About pan as a player few.
- 27:36Speaker 1: I want to encourage you I recorded this on Monday night To put out Tuesday morning, which I always do, but I want to encourage you To go and take in Kaiso Kern.
- 27:48Speaker 1: The name of the podcast is TGIM Thank God it's Monday by Kaiso Kern.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I think the theme of it is a calypso Tentu.
- 27:57Speaker 1: He does much more music.
- 27:59Speaker 1: He's a DJ, it look like, and he plays more music.
- 28:02Speaker 1: The whole podcast is music.
- 28:05Speaker 1: He was posting a few songs this week which remind me of songs to play too, and one of them I definitely want to play before I move away from this, which is one of the sweetest pan songs ever written.
- 28:17Speaker 1: It's very hard to isolate songs from Kichino.
- 28:19Speaker 1: That was great pan songs.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Before I start the tellmenting, I want to mention one time the era Of Toko Ban.
- 28:27Speaker 1: You know, you see that Toko Ban and B's melody and the river coming down and these things, these things are classics, right?
- 28:38Speaker 1: Nothing I could do could take anything away from them things.
- 28:42Speaker 1: And that is really just a small look At what he would have done in his career.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I remember talking about the amount of panoramas that Kichino was involved in with songs that that win panorama, by far leading anybody else In terms of composing songs, to the pan.
- 29:01Speaker 1: And let me tell you something If you separate, if you go in and you look at the people who come first, second and third, and then you add big band, small band, pan around the neck and them kind of things, kichino absolutely dominate pan.
- 29:17Speaker 1: And so when you're talking greatest artists all the time, it's hard to leave him out at a discussion, because the reality is that he not only dominated pan, he dominated road march for a long time too.
- 29:31Speaker 1: So when you look at that kind of track record, it's going to be hard to argue that he's I argue against him being one of the greatest of all time.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Right, but in Japan is where you see a level of domination that is difficult to pin down.
- 29:48Speaker 1: It's hard to find words to describe or to show the appreciation for what he would have done for pan.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I say all that because I can't play every Kichino song.
- 29:58Speaker 1: It have right, it's just way too much, right.
- 30:00Speaker 1: But Kaisoukern had posted on his instagram A few songs.
- 30:06Speaker 1: He had B's melody on it too.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It looked like from an old interview With Kichino, of course, with Alvin Daniels, luther Alvin Daniels is always a place for information, right.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Plenty episodes that I researched A lot of the info that come from Alvin Daniel.
- 30:22Speaker 1: But when you look at this particular song and the way it constructed and composed and stuff, it's one of the sweeter ones from Lord Kichino for me.
- 30:31Speaker 1: This is just my personal preference, right, so tell me if you know it, but even if you don't know it, listen to the sweetness in it.
- 30:38Speaker 1: What I want to go into after this, right, it's because by some of my favorite panorama winning songs, it's actually songs that have nothing to do with pan.
- 30:46Speaker 1: So if you go back to panorama winners in the early years of panorama, right, you'll notice that there was a trend where the people used to sing about whatever they sang, about.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Mass they sang about.
- 30:55Speaker 1: The song could be about anything, and the panmen would take it and do their arrangement and enter panorama with it.
- 31:04Speaker 1: And then they became into an era, somewhere around the middle of the 80s, heading into the 90s, where the song was not just designed for the pan, it was about pan, and you'll notice that a lot of the panorama winners Was playing pan songs, the idea of a pan tune.
- 31:22Speaker 1: I have to assume that in the earliest days, in the 60s for instance, the music would have been composed in a way that was already musically rich and it was already orchestra and big band music.
- 31:34Speaker 1: When you look at the way Kichino was putting together songs, it was already orchestra type music they were making.
- 31:39Speaker 1: And then somewhere in the 80s, when the electronic music take over, maybe chords get simplified and movement gets simplified and harmonizing.
- 31:48Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Too much of changes and progression in the song.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Now we're in a whole rhythm era.
- 31:55Speaker 1: Unless an artist takes the time and a producer, I suppose, or an arranger Takes the time to put in something where it gives the pan arranger enough to work with in a song, then you're gonna create music for songs.
- 32:07Speaker 1: But I see that we backed our time now where the pan, the pan songs.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Last year the men play hook in me.
- 32:16Speaker 1: They expanded it, so it's not just the song from this year, but last year the men played hook in men when they had year for love.
- 32:23Speaker 1: They had full extreme, for instance.
- 32:24Speaker 1: So you might find that more and more what I'm seeing now is more and more pan sides, looking at different types of songs.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Songs that are already done, popular on the road and it's a big popular song Hook in me by now but it's not a big song already.
- 32:42Speaker 1: So you find that that's one of the things that's going to encourage more youths to want to be a part of pan when you go out and hear no disrespect to anybody but when you hear our time with some of the arrangements and the songs by Whether it's Boogsie, gid Ponyone songs or Salute to McGire Hall, money Pony in his own songs I mean not saying that that's a bad thing, but when the song itself is not very popular in the carnival, it's harder for the instruments and the panoram or pan music itself to get mainstream.
- 33:16Speaker 1: When you're hearing the best of the bands is when you're here on the road.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So I always talk about playing mass and then walking back from song to sing James and you hear now bands getting to play wherever they are, custom playing wherever it is they like.
- 33:27Speaker 1: You know what I mean Just sweet music for people to chip.
- 33:31Speaker 1: It's not about a pan song and showing the virtuosity of the instrument that you could do the big orchestra and the big band songs and stuff.
- 33:39Speaker 1: It's similar to going and see Etienne play the other day.
- 33:42Speaker 1: When I see Etienne and they play.
- 33:44Speaker 1: They're going to play very complicated music that is really hard to play and it's going to show their musicianship.
- 33:49Speaker 1: But within that they also going to play some songs that are simple and you could chip along to and learn and dance to, or familiar ones that people know.
- 33:56Speaker 1: But before I get into some of them familiar ones I just want to play one more song designed for pan, which for me I would love to pick out a favorite from Kitchener Definitely be one.
- 34:36Speaker 5: Well, the brass band will be wailing on the big day, While the steel band harmonizing in their own way as they play loud a single pattern and the large crowd celebrating Ballin' mass.
- 34:49Speaker 5: This is band of class when it's day by day on carnival day, yeah, the rhythm, lovely rhythm, make you feel to jump up.
- 34:58Speaker 5: So you start to say then you break our way, that feeling so exciting.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Then you start Singaling, singaling, you'll take the beat on the idea.
- 35:14Speaker 5: Ray O'Han's a rich a country singing dirty violin and harmony.
- 35:18Speaker 5: The bass man went crazy in this one.
- 35:36Speaker 1: If you pass by Salvatore.
- 35:37Speaker 5: you came on in my new hair, pastel chilugidi, then joking.
- 35:42Speaker 5: The rendition is excellent with a new form of arrangement.
- 35:47Speaker 5: Shake your waist, sweet burn in the place when you're still about to play on a new holiday.
- 35:53Speaker 5: Hear the rhythm, lovely rhythm, make you feel good.
- 35:57Speaker 5: Jump up, so it starts to play and you break away.
- 36:00Speaker 5: It's a feeling so exciting when you start, you can't stop.
- 36:05Speaker 5: Ding-a-ding-a-ding, ding-a-ding-a-ding, ding-a-ding-a-ding.
- 36:06Speaker 5: It's a feeling so exciting when you start, you can't stop.
- 36:11Speaker 5: The rendition is excellent with a new form of arrangement singing dirty, violin and harmony.
- 36:22Speaker 1: Just listen to the bass man right.
- 36:23Speaker 1: Listen to the bass man.
- 36:24Speaker 5: You can hear the bass man the guitar in the background while the cello one in the tenor with the big song.
- 36:33Speaker 4: Then they all join together in the rhythm of the drummer poppy or harmony for.
- 36:38Speaker 5: So when you're still about to play on a new holiday, hear the rhythm, lovely rhythm, make you feel good.
- 36:46Speaker 5: Jump up, so it starts to play and you break away.
- 36:50Speaker 5: It's a feeling so exciting when you start, you can't stop Ding-a-ding-a-ding, ding-a-ding-a-ding, ding-a-ding-a-ding, ding-a-ding, ningplg.
- 37:25Speaker 1: So, kichunara, when you watch your Monty Wynn, go and look at them.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Some is about pants, some is about women, some is about masses, it's about a range of topics.
- 37:33Speaker 1: And if your song is a hit in the air and you give it enough musicality where the pants side could do something with it, you're onto something.
- 37:40Speaker 1: But again, some of these youths now who are ranging for the pants side, these zanders and smooth and even stout, and these fellas, they take anything and take any most popular songs in the canaveral and making it into a pants song so that again it's going to attract more and more youths and once enough youths involved, they have something that could sustain itself, right.
- 38:01Speaker 1: So I'm going to go and get.
- 38:03Speaker 1: Before I get into the topics for this week, I'm going to show you three of my favorites that would have been handed to do it with pants.
- 38:09Speaker 1: They made for the road, they made for kicks, they made for the tent, but they were taken and made into pants songs.
- 38:18Speaker 1: And this is what we need more of to continue to generate interest in the instrument or in the steel band movement from the youths.
- 38:27Speaker 1: I'm going from today there to back in the day right.
- 39:01Speaker 5: Say little boy, you ain't mad at all.
- 39:04Speaker 5: Another one just gone by, a beat you just a smile.
- 39:11Speaker 5: Say you's a mad man.
- 39:13Speaker 5: Another young boy fall you soul can rest at night.
- 39:19Speaker 5: Oh, you's a bad man.
- 39:22Speaker 5: Bad man is a man who is a human woman.
- 39:25Speaker 5: Protect the young ones by any means.
- 39:27Speaker 5: You ain't a bad man boy now.
- 39:30Speaker 5: A real bad man that's making all these decisions.
- 39:33Speaker 5: You don't need anyone to, only need star you ain't a bad man boy now.
- 39:40Speaker 4: You ain't a bad man.
- 39:41Speaker 5: Stop, sit down, rock back.
- 39:42Speaker 5: Tell them I don't need no strata Different of people from wicked and evil.
- 39:48Speaker 5: Stop, sit down, rock back, big man, look for a walk, yet do them evil.
- 39:55Speaker 5: If that is just my people, then fire go bon day.
- 39:59Speaker 5: Fire go bon day.
- 40:02Speaker 5: Oh, lara said this is the end for love.
- 40:04Speaker 5: Fire go bon day.
- 40:10Speaker 5: Say little boy, you ain't mad at all.
- 40:15Speaker 5: Tell me what the fighting for.
- 40:17Speaker 5: We don't need no water.
- 40:21Speaker 5: You don't need to tell me what the fighting for we don't need no water, as we don't want no water.
- 40:32Speaker 5: A real bad man don't go wrong Wrapping one woman into a wensing young ones To kill a boy.
- 40:38Speaker 5: Now you ain't a bad man, boy.
- 40:40Speaker 5: Now you ain't a bad man.
- 40:42Speaker 5: A real bad man works whatever he wants and you don't need no gun.
- 40:46Speaker 5: You fool a joiner Dice a bad man, soldier, you ain't a bad man.
- 40:51Speaker 5: Stop, sit down, rock back.
- 40:53Speaker 5: Tell them I don't need no strata Different of people from wicked and evil.
- 41:00Speaker 4: Stop, sit down, rock back, Big man, look for a walk, yet do them evil.
- 41:07Speaker 5: If that is just my people, then fire go bon day.
- 41:10Speaker 5: Fire go bon day.
- 41:12Speaker 5: Oh, lara said this is the end for love.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Fire go bon day.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Oh, lara said goodbye to the king.
- 41:24Speaker 1: I want to say right that if you listen to these way voices put together His music voice have a lot more musicality Than plenty artists out there when you listen to your music.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Good.
- 41:33Speaker 1: So again a panoranger who looking for something specific To play orchestral music.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Just remember, like pan music is just big band music.
- 41:40Speaker 1: You know it's the same as going to Carnegie Hall and listening to one of them.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Big orchestras, several different types of pan that they had the right music for.
- 41:49Speaker 1: So the more musicality and the better you might come out.
- 41:52Speaker 1: And voices are kind of young kitchener.
- 41:55Speaker 1: When you're watching this one of the, he easily having one of the biggest catalogs In Calypso or Soka music.
- 42:02Speaker 1: He easily getting there and adding to that Year after year.
- 42:05Speaker 1: So little voice.
- 42:06Speaker 1: Right, I could play a next one for you that had nothing to do With pan.
- 42:11Speaker 1: That went panorama Must make you interested in anything.
- 42:18Speaker 5: Give praise to the red, give praise, give praise to the red.
- 42:24Speaker 5: Yeah, give praise.
- 42:26Speaker 5: Give praise to the red.
- 42:29Speaker 5: Yeah, give praise, give praise to the red.
- 42:33Speaker 5: Oh, my father, who was given those songs that we can all see, like we were a part of this earth in heaven.
- 42:41Speaker 5: Amen, forgive us this day, our daily week, this, every single cost of mortal burdens on your city.
- 42:54Speaker 5: Amen, oh, mercy for father in his back and on seeing women lose their reason.
- 43:07Speaker 5: But most of us just want to whine and have a good time.
- 43:10Speaker 5: For me, looking for a line, he must be feeling fine, lord, amen.
- 43:17Speaker 5: And as we jump up and down in this crazy town, we send a song, even if it was a memento Amen, everybody hand raised.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Everybody give praise, everybody hand raised.
- 43:44Speaker 5: And if you know what I'm feeling, but that's the thing.
- 43:51Speaker 5: And if you know what I'm feeling, but that's the thing.
- 43:54Speaker 5: And if you know what I'm meaning, scream, oh, let John be praised.
- 44:06Speaker 5: Oh, the father in his moral seat.
- 44:10Speaker 5: He sent a little music to make me cry.
- 44:13Speaker 5: Praise, shout, praise.
- 44:15Speaker 5: So come on up, let everybody come and celebrate.
- 44:19Speaker 5: Everybody come and celebrate.
- 44:24Speaker 5: See the red and blue and green.
- 44:28Speaker 5: Everybody come and celebrate and everybody say Amen.
- 44:37Speaker 5: I love the country, but I'm a hater.
- 44:39Speaker 5: I feel an hybrid.
- 44:42Speaker 5: Amen, I love the country, but I'm a hater.
- 44:49Speaker 5: I feel an hybrid.
- 44:51Speaker 5: Oh, the father who has given us his life, and we can all be the father we are having.
- 44:59Speaker 5: Amen, forgive us today, our daily weakness as we seek to cast our moral burdens on the city.
- 45:12Speaker 5: Amen, amen, on this lovely day when they come out to play and they come out to stay and they break it away, and some will say what they have to say, but only you know the pain we're feeling.
- 45:31Speaker 5: Amen, yup, as it was in the beginning of the day, good vibes to Canada, choosing Amen, take it up, let the money come raise, let the money come raise, let the money come raise.
- 46:04Speaker 5: And if you know what you mean, if you know what you mean, if you know what you mean, if you know what you mean, then scream oh, the father who has given us his life.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Oh, let the money come raise.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Oh, the father who has given us his life and let the money come raise and everybody say Everybody, come and congregate.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Nothing to do with the bread.
- 46:40Speaker 1: Here's the next one.
- 46:41Speaker 1: I say while we're waiting for election results, we just play some music.
- 47:13Speaker 5: While jumping up in a bag, I end up in confusion.
- 47:16Speaker 5: The band was at green corner.
- 47:21Speaker 1: Jumping with river catch.
- 47:23Speaker 1: I'm sure if this funny thing really happened Because my head was so bad.
- 47:32Speaker 5: But Rebecca was away all.
- 47:34Speaker 1: She should've been pulled under.
- 47:36Speaker 5: And she started whining like she mad, falling A A, falling down A A on the ground, jumping up, stopped what she was dancing All along.
- 47:48Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 47:49Speaker 5: Rebecca drinked it.
- 47:51Speaker 5: Rebecca's small beating Rebecca sniffed, beating Rebecca high much.
- 47:56Speaker 5: She was dancing all along.
- 47:58Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 48:00Speaker 5: Rebecca was high, high, high.
- 48:06Speaker 5: I know Rebecca from small.
- 48:33Speaker 5: She had no behaviour at all.
- 48:37Speaker 5: No, no, she dancing and pelting kicks Like the girl porters with music Rafa.
- 48:47Speaker 5: So carnival Tuesday.
- 48:48Speaker 1: So kajamin Awining, but decently Trying my best to avoid People watching.
- 48:56Speaker 5: Oh boy, what Rebecca would've wanted me.
- 48:59Speaker 5: Stay, stay falling down.
- 49:02Speaker 5: Stay, stay on the ground Jumping up, stopped what she was dancing All along.
- 49:10Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 49:11Speaker 5: Rebecca drinked it.
- 49:13Speaker 5: Rebecca's small beating Rebecca sniffed, beating Rebecca high much.
- 49:19Speaker 5: She was dancing all along.
- 49:21Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 49:22Speaker 5: She was high, high, high.
- 49:39Speaker 1: This update on Melissa's favourite Can't really stop this and every verse about it.
- 49:54Speaker 5: It's holy I tell, in sheep Women, leave the people whiskey, do follow coming and smoke.
- 50:03Speaker 5: With Ash Wednesday you have to work Still everything left, hotman was just normal.
- 50:11Speaker 5: Well, everybody happy Ponditing.
- 50:16Speaker 5: Now she's left with ball.
- 50:17Speaker 5: Hit that Friday.
- 50:19Speaker 5: Oh boy, racket star to rear.
- 50:21Speaker 5: I got she Willis A, a.
- 50:24Speaker 5: Falling down A A on the ground, a, a jumping up, a, a.
- 50:29Speaker 5: Stopped what she was dancing All along.
- 50:32Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 50:35Speaker 4: Rebecca drinked it.
- 50:36Speaker 4: Rebecca's small beating.
- 50:39Speaker 5: Rebecca sniffed, beating Rebecca high much.
- 50:41Speaker 5: She was dancing all along.
- 50:43Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 50:45Speaker 5: She was high, high high.
- 50:48Speaker 5: Rebecca high much.
- 50:56Speaker 5: Rebecca high much.
- 51:20Speaker 5: Rebecca, high much.
- 51:34Speaker 5: Rebecca drinked it.
- 51:58Speaker 5: Rebecca high much.
- 52:03Speaker 5: She was dancing all along.
- 52:05Speaker 5: It took a lot of time.
- 52:08Speaker 1: She was high, high high Rebecca high much Rebecca high much Rebecca high much Rebecca high much.
- 54:02Speaker 5: Well, they moan and they puff and they say we won.
- 54:05Speaker 5: We peff and they booze and they cuss and they say this is a trap.
- 54:09Speaker 5: Yes, they down and they blast and they say we hope it ain't true, they won't dare to come through.
- 54:15Speaker 5: We jump up, 1972, mama, when they hear they go get it, and I hope, all masquerades on here.
- 54:25Speaker 5: Well, they didn't care if it was official.
- 54:30Speaker 5: But they start turning bees on the street and they start to jump around and they start to come below and they pour the money from Get the seal out again.
- 54:43Speaker 5: And what was so comical In the midst of a canal?
- 54:46Speaker 5: Wait for and push for, mustn't we?
- 54:50Speaker 5: Some of them even say it's the gundam on Coco, the one that we play on the blame in Polio, who they think they could fool?
- 55:35Speaker 5: All we know, they better do fast, polio, I know, polio man, we what we must, mama.
- 55:42Speaker 5: Well, they hear they go get this, mama, boy, boy, all masqueraders on here.
- 55:49Speaker 5: Well, they didn't hear, they thought so we should.
- 55:53Speaker 5: But they start turning peace on the street and they start to jump around and they start to come for them, and they follow what we call.
- 56:04Speaker 5: If they see all, they care Boy, one more.
- 56:07Speaker 5: So come with me and in the middle of the canal, bring it back and wash our glass in me when the news in the town they ban leaders rail up the bend.
- 56:51Speaker 5: Well, they can't know we don't Cause a lot of money's spent and they know very well Everybody have their minds bent, so they have to try and save us.
- 57:02Speaker 5: These emperors men, mama, when they hear they go get the gundam on and I'm all masqueraders on here, well, they didn't hear.
- 57:14Speaker 5: They thought so we should.
- 57:16Speaker 5: But they start turning peace on the street and they start to jump around and they start to come for them and they follow what we call.
- 57:26Speaker 5: If they see, all they care, boy one more so come with me.
- 57:32Speaker 5: In the middle of the canal, bring it back and wash our glass in me, one or two.
- 58:13Speaker 5: They should say that it is important and to suggest they should play and I'm all after the land.
- 58:19Speaker 5: Well, they crowd like a ball.
- 58:21Speaker 5: They know what they're talking about, why they so.
- 58:25Speaker 5: And so People, grits, don't shout at them mom, mama, when they hear they go get the gundam on and I'm all masqueraders on here.
- 58:35Speaker 5: Well, they didn't hear.
- 58:38Speaker 5: They thought so we should.
- 58:40Speaker 5: But they start turning peace on the street and they start to jump around and they start to come for them and they follow what we call.
- 58:50Speaker 4: If they see, all they care, boy, one more.
- 58:53Speaker 4: So come with me In the middle of the canal, bring it back and wash our glass in me.
- 59:02Speaker 5: Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-da.
- 59:05Speaker 1: Ba-da-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-da.
- 59:07Speaker 1: So the story behind that?
- 59:08Speaker 1: Right, and listen to how interesting this is.
- 59:11Speaker 1: Right, it's 1972.
- 59:13Speaker 1: Then I would break up polio in the country.
- 59:15Speaker 1: Go and find out what polio is.
- 59:16Speaker 1: If you're too young to know what is polio, what you doing here, but, yeah, polio then I would break up polio in 72, and it was during Carnival time, right?
- 59:25Speaker 1: So imagine If the song lyrics speak for themselves, right, people ain't taking that.
- 59:31Speaker 1: People want the mass people Too much money.
- 59:32Speaker 1: Spend the man, say Baskerville by a band leader.
- 59:34Speaker 1: All them thing, men out, men don't plan out the Carnival Since August this year.
- 59:38Speaker 1: Imagine that you ever told me to come and live through something Just like that in 2020-2021, of the exact same scenario you know, and just like how people call for virtual Carnival or to do Carnival at a later time.
- 59:51Speaker 1: You see, august, I want to the fat All you maybe try me, but they postpone it from Carnival from February to May.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: After that time.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: One of the biggest quarrel I was caught in the kitchen of the day is that how you go, come and put Carnival after length.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: Carnival is supposed to be before length and when length done, you're done with that right.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: But they did it in May and of course Rain fall and wash out mass in May and they come and sing that the year after and run away with everything.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: Run away with everything.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: It's a Calypso episode, because the last song I was going to play, that was not about Pan at all, is the next one that run away with everything that year.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: But I want to show you the creativity Of Calypso and how Calypso Find the little pick on.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: And the joke Rainorama was in 1973 Singing about 72 Carnival.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: All you want to hear was the great mighty power had to say about the pole.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: You know what breaking trend, that Insemitity to itself.
- 1:00:57Speaker 5: This time you can't help me Ask anybody.
- 1:01:01Speaker 5: We need more protection as training radians.
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: I don't tell the health authority.
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: Check them immediately.
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: Who you think?
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: I mean the wall and the road match, call it soaking.
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: They had me wondering.
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: They had doctors guessing when these things come from.
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: Nobody and nobody.
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: Who spread the polio?
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: I just had to take a little piece of that repose.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: It's Kitchen and Sparrow Causipolio.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: Well, listen, imagine that in 72 days signal Polio outbreak and shift the mass Rain fall in May and wash out the mass Kitchener come and sing in 73.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: I wanted the men who played earlier in this episode, one of the biggest influences on panorama, anything to do with our genre, david Rudder.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: Whether you have polio, if you didn't know, everybody is supposed to know that.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: But when you watch David Rudder working he is affected by polio and that kind of thing.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: So it's like they don't have.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: These things Connect something over the years.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: It's always interesting to me.
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: So here what I'm going to do, I have a list of topics.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: You know, believe it or not, but I find the pan, the pan thing, looks so good, it looks so, it looks so up full.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: It made my change direction last minute, until I just honoured some songs from the panorama and them thing.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: But my favourites usually come from, again, songs that had nothing to do with pan.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: When you're talking about song that was completely dominant, this had to be one of the most dominant songs In the history of Kannabal.
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: Music by David Rudder.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: Music by David Rudder.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Music by David Rudder.
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: Music by David Rudder.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: We know business Panorama 2017 right.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: So just understand where you're coming from.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: You play them popular songs and you find that you have to go be in it.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: And I mean, what better fitting way to go into the election Than we do business Ultimate Regions with great maximas, than with the greatest of all times, one of the greatest of all times.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: You find out where into the episode and add a plan again, the man who have a plan for the Apology episode.
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: Because, again, if you want to hear the original election episode, go back to episode 10, right, go back to episode 10 and you'll know who are owing a little bit of apology.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: Because I have not played a lot of this man's music On the podcast over the years.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: Not deliberately, it just never really came up.
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: I have not played a lot of his music over the years, but what I have done is make a lex tempo and make fun of the man, right, so I want to correct that today.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: But, as his song says so wisely, you say recession is going to be election or no election, no butter, we don't care.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: What do you want to say?
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: How are we going to burn them?
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: Who are the votes in for?
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: What are the votes?
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: Is there after the time you can talk about votes Anyhow, this coming out tomorrow.
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: What are the votes?
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: You have a blue or yellow finger or PEP running on the one, or PEP running on the one, or PEP running on the one.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: Gary had to come out and say that PEP is not following the election.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: We call it an election embargo or something like that, where you can't talk about elections or anything like that.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: But apparently Philip was doing things that the saying was Campaigning, or Facebook.
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Facebook is his platform or his wrong ways as far as he's going with his campaigns.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: So there was a case, as Gary celebrated the fact that they had a clean campaign and the parties was everybody's party and it was respectful to one another.
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: I think it was.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: You just said it was Costing up early on the golf course.
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: I hear me now too.
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: But the thing run smooth and you find it was peaceful.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: You try to make it hot for no reason.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: What's up.
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: So look to the trio of Kamla, jack and Gary.
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: I suppose at some point tonight we go find out if they win.
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: I say enough.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: The one o'clock in the morning, the best result, quick guy, not a young man to be staying up all the night, but the last election that we had, when I Did the whole episode and then went and see who win, unfortunately the swing seat At that time was Maruga, and the swing politician at that time who would have been A king in my arrow in yellow Was bought by red to go Maruga, and it really didn't work for him.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: So but I wanted to use this episode or the balance of this episode According to when results come out To pay tribute to one of the greatest calypsoanians Of all time.
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- 1:21:48Speaker 1: One of the things he expressed saying here is vote count begins.
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: Better fight to the end.
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: This came by Carolyn Kissoon.
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: They said the polls were closed at 6pm.
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: The vote count has begun.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: A million 1.0 million voters eligible to vote in the local government election.
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: From all appearances it was a low voter turnout.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: All day long there were claims and counterclaims of threats, voter harassment, bribes, party agents canvassing for votes, election officials turning away eligible voters.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: Bnc political leader Kamloopsad Bisesol said she was concerned over the number of alleged irregularities being raised at polling stations in battleground regional corporations in the local government election and this, she said, was the reason for her request for international election observers.
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: She said I have other concerns.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: I have made complaints to the EBC about ballot boxes and votes that appear to be tampered with the special voters.
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: They have admitted that there was a deviation from the standard procedure.
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: That was their response.
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: But why is it only ballots related to Gandhi and San Fernando with the ones that appear to be tampered with?
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: As we all know, these are battleground regional corporations.
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: She was very concerned and would be taken action.
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: We can expect that Right from now going forward, action will be taken after every election.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: Once that president is set, it's set.
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: Is that dangerous president too?
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: Because we used to have a place where man used to go and make the speech and concede very, very quickly after elections.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: I always used to talk about that.
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: It's one of the things that we could be proud about as a country that has changed.
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: The president is set.
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: You know David Nackett and them going down bad after the thing, no matter.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: Well, once the ones that once they lose early reports looking like UNC, gain some ground in this local government election.
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by that.
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: I don't think people very, very happy with the PNM Even the PNM supporters and the PNM die hard.
- 1:23:45Speaker 1: People might be exactly happy with rollers.
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: Rollers quoted it is by Leah Soraias in the Express are saying we did well in a difficult situation.
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: Let me get a wrong number.
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: I think this was his rounding up of the nightly meetings and all I'm thinking.
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: You know, these men are the semis of years old, the man old like the hills.
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: I had these men in meeting every night and time was a good time, when elections, I don't know.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: Prime Minister, dr Keith Rowley says while people, while the People's National Movement Administration may not have been successful in every area Okay, seriously, it wasn't it was able to achieve a lot in the past eight years in office the PNM's eighth year on the rolling Eight years.
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: Well as to how we assess the government's performance over the period, rowley said at the post cabinet media conference at the diplomatic centers since and that the government had done very well in a difficult situation, in a very difficult situation.
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: The party has been selected to be the government at a very testing time.
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: We came into government in September 2015.
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: We had some serious economic decline, serious revenue contraction and very, very difficult market and then we had a pandemic that literally strangled us for almost three years.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: Hey, let me hear a round of applause for not saying this.
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: You stop saying that the UNC MTD Treasury and I'm thinking God he moved on from there.
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: I already remember it at a point in time when, no matter what they talk about, he used to say UNC, mash up the country.
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: At least he just quote normal macroeconomic factors.
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: He is beautiful Quoting here saying we had difficulty maintaining our standard of living and quality of life, but we managed to do that.
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: We had to make significant adjustments in some of the regular things that we do.
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: We tried to restart the economy.
- 1:25:25Speaker 1: We have restarted the economy.
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: We've got some economic growth and there's positive news on the diversification where the non oil sector has survived and has grown.
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: We've maintained our social support system.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: We've raised our international profile considerably.
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: We got our carry-com arrangements in place.
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: So I think a lot of good things have happened during the eight year period and I think the government has done quite well in a very difficult situation.
- 1:25:47Speaker 1: I think we have done reasonably well.
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: We are not perfect.
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: Okay, we have not been successful at everything that we've done, but when you look at the success that we've had in closing off the click-co-matter, recovering substantial sums of assets to the state and the click-co bailouts, we've created the NIF, national Investment Fund, which has now been created and we've come to the end of the first stretch.
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: There was no NIF.
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: All right, roli, take a clap.
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: You're looking for little kudos.
- 1:26:13Speaker 1: You're probably looking for little other boy.
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: If it's an other boy and looking for, take a other boy, man, don't let nobody stop you.
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: If that's the way you're feeling, that's the way you're feeling.
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: So that was him basically summing up where they are going into the election.
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: But I did see something interesting that I wanted to play fair right, and this again, for me is one of the dangers of the rhetoric, while I too have expressed many, many times that.
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: But I don't feel like I could vote for none of these parties.
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: They're all uninspiring and it's hard to listen to any of them for too long.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Guy Griffith today.
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: Philip Alexander showing people how to spoil the ballot, and Facebook he's doing the ballot spoiling tutorials when you look at the kind of games his followers play.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: Watson Duke surprisingly quiet as opposed to trying to figure out.
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: He must have done callie and Allen already to say, boy, how we could get inside with Jack and them fellows.
- 1:27:07Speaker 1: So he looked quieter than normal.
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: But I'm fairly who was looking like so hopeful the other day, starting to see he's more of the same taken pattern from the same dinosaurs or the people who've been there for a long time.
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: You know he always want to use them, but if the youth is just the same thing as you will see in before, I ain't think nothing special happening.
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: So I mean I documented for being kind of tired of this political process, but I usually still have to point out when they have things that they're still on the good side or things that glaringly bad.
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: And I feel like if this, this, this, this guy, griffith, I feel driven campaign of everybody, get a gun to defend your whole soul.
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: And I am to the guy.
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: I find it to be a little unnerving and I could see where it going.
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: I see the clip going viral now and I'll play, I'll play it for you Of where there were waiting to listen to what the aspiring prime minister or a past prime minister saying on the platform and what it being used for.
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: Just remember when Trinidad killer had gunman and she would she like that.
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: That song was not a very popular song, even in the Zessin wheel and them thing it was a song, it was.
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: I mean it was all right, you know, I mean it was nothing spectacular.
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: And then Philip Alexander, when it was playing in a party somewhere close to by, he came and say the thing with seven o'clock in the morning, say look what kind of country we live in.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: He was talking more broadly.
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: He was saying that is a really fault.
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: Look what kind of country we live in Seven o'clock in the morning.
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: Gunman and she hold right, and then some wise boost and Trinidad killer said it was not him, some producer or something must he take that clip from Philip Alexander, put it with the gunman he hold, put his song on a different rhythm and then now the song is one of the biggest songs in history of Trinidad.
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: Look at the kind of music I play today.
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: Look at the kind of music I play today.
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: And if the world stop today, we will go down as famous for a song that say champion, champion, champion, champion, champion, champion, larissa, champion, vinny's a champion, bongji's a champion and gunman and she hold I will do the most famous songs we ever make as a country.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: You can't defeat it.
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: But when Philip Alexander was able to that song put, trinidad killer is a star, right, he's a hit maker.
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: So even if he didn't sing, he don't make more hits, right, but that song propel him to our next level.
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: And well, that Philip Alexander clip propel that song to our next level, which then propel Trinidad killer to our next level.
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: But that song also did a whole lot for Philip Alexander's political career, his visibility.
- 1:29:45Speaker 1: People know who he is, the youths and stuff.
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: Of course, if you're disenfranchised and underrepresented, like I am, and you're hearing an alternative voice, you're going to hold on to that alternative voice.
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: Now, one of the things is that I am lucky enough, fortunate enough, to have lived for a long time.
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: You know I done 40 something years already.
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: I studied for a long time, so I see several different school books and different former school.
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: I fail I good bit of school.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: I pass some.
- 1:30:14Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: I went through a good bit so I have a decent understanding.
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: I am very grateful for me learning economics.
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: So a lot of what I see in this space while I talk about these people and further for them is tempered by a little bit of knowledge and experience, so that I'm not necessarily saying I've felt up early and can't listen to.
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: Whoever else come along I'll go with, no matter what they say, if it making sense or not, right.
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: But I just want to appreciate that you and me are going to be in the minority in the country, because there's a small percentage of people who would have had that exposure or seek out that kind of education or knowledge.
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: The majority, which is who is winning elections, is people who might be easily swayed by people who are good looking, who talking sweet, who promising anything they could promise and a lot of times we could listen and hear the promises, the unsubstantiated.
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: I remember people initially.
- 1:31:08Speaker 1: The first time I hear about this Marcos, you'd read Sometime I hear about it I say, alright, if I'm a young black fellow selling online courses or he doing his his, whatever it might be.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: I can't remember what they said.
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: It was digital marketing and I'm kind of thinking, right, if he doing digital marketing and he turn himself in a millionaire, why not?
- 1:31:25Speaker 1: And I don't see it strange for a young 20, 20 little bit person who makes some money to start buying expensive fancy cars.
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: I think that would be a normal thing for you to do.
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: You see it all the time in sports and in music and I'm kind of going to make money His jewelry by car and them kind of thing.
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: So a lot of people who in my circles people I know were saying, hey, that man is a scammer, that cabi reeling this, and I can't doubt them.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: I mean he couldn't sell me a course.
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: But now you see, you know it's Santa and rather a couple of weeks ago they say he had a photographer and a videographer and he wasn't paying the videographer so he had money for him and that unravel.
- 1:32:02Speaker 1: Now he is coming to the public doing videos saying this man had a car and he wouldn't bring him a car and he'd only help take him a car.
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: This is Facebook.
- 1:32:10Speaker 1: He talked about also recently deleting his Facebook, which is again not a good sign.
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: He had a good reason for everything, but not a good sign If you're collecting people money and promising things and then your Facebook gone.
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: But he got, I think, if somebody take your car, why don't you go to the Trinidad and Tobago police service?
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: You know why is them work?
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: That is them, fellows, work.
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: So you come into the public for the public to help you.
- 1:32:31Speaker 1: That we are.
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: It is again the education and the experience, right?
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: Is that lens you see in things through.
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: Your perception is different than what the majority of people perception would be.
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: When you listen to people, you go and ask people well, philip Alexander, and you hear people.
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: Well, the end time, the same, he's a savior.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: They who we need to give a chance on that is.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: That is a lot of rhetoric.
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: They're here and out here.
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: When, in fact, when I listened to Philip Alexander, a lot of these stuff I just find that a lot of it unsubstantiated, a lot of it is garbage, a lot of it is hot air, a lot of it he simply cannot do.
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: That's not the way the system will work and some of the things that he's saying he will do while the song, they're going to be detrimental.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: But again, if you line yourself up and you say seven o'clock in the morning, gunman in she hole and a man, take that and make a song.
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: Now you become popular.
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: Now your voice and your face started to become something that people listen to.
- 1:33:29Speaker 1: So when they see Kamloff's on a platform saying when they come by, you empty the clip, knock it on them and reload.
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: Listen to how this being used in a popular wet fat over the weekend.
- 1:33:48Speaker 5: Ter beer productou3tsl.
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: So again, just playing that clip for you, right?
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: So now that is that pasted at the front of what I believe is a K-Lion song, right?
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: And that must be what she was trying to say when she said swami, swami dead, because she even knows K-Lion, you understand.
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: But so these things seem to be well orchestrated to me.
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: And now her voice is in the fat, so on his ear, something with him.
- 1:34:31Speaker 1: You send them going, because if you see the party them in, they're not party for me and you them in trying to hear no, hi, mass, no David or other, no, they don't want to hear.
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: No full extreme.
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: I mean his ex, the board with them, them and another full extreme.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: So you're seeing where to me again is just part of the marketing campaign for these folks and they, they making sure that the inside, with these youths and again confirming for me that is a play for the is a play for the national election and not so much in local government election.
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:35:05Speaker 1: You see in it clearly, you see in where it going, and I suppose that if this is where we starting off, I think there's going to be more and more of this to come.
- 1:35:16Speaker 1: You're gonna see more of it as time goes along.
- 1:35:18Speaker 1: So I mean it's a little to both.
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: Political parties are looking through it, saying the results here and again it's looking like confirmed a little bit of a deadlock and I see in images of Kamala Posad be set up pulling up in Mulchan to your turn road.
- 1:35:34Speaker 4: That's where they are now.
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess we're in the days over.
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: So she coming out victorious, the boss is back in charge.
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: They say she lost so much election back to back to back and she lose growing and so much of the front things.
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: But now she's back in the game and she looking happy.
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: She and Khadija mean pulling up to election base and for me it's almost like whether it is you choose to vote for UNC, you choose to vote for PNM, you choose the alternative.
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: Like Philip and these fellows, you wonder sometimes what was the substance that coming out of it.
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: Like I always say that people basically playing for themselves, their role is really to see how they could make money for the self and gain power.
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: So when you watch that trio Jack and the son of now and you then you watch your partner and he'll score them playing golf every day here in team.
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: It's like you wonder sometimes how much of it is about us and how much of it is about them.
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: And it rhymes with so much of our song by Gypsy.
- 1:36:43Speaker 1: Well, listen to these lyrics.
- 1:36:44Speaker 1: For me, right, it's no matter what the election results come out as this song so fitting.
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: Second question is what유?
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: We would like to hear your comments, your reactions.
- 1:37:00Speaker 5: Do then drops for even more questions than me.
- 1:37:03Speaker 5: Substitution no, hi, and I'm drumming on the old.
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: Japanese shape from the מע2020.
- 1:37:18Speaker 5: More questions than answers In these times of man made a natural disaster.
- 1:37:24Speaker 5: Questions we are asking, no answers we are finding For the stranger than fiction.
- 1:37:31Speaker 5: Things we witness happen now Every day.
- 1:37:35Speaker 5: We look around when there's more confusion, the condoms intensify without no solution.
- 1:37:42Speaker 5: Helplessly, man stand In this wonderland, wandering his face At some problems he created.
- 1:37:51Speaker 5: So I'm asking where, where do we go from here?
- 1:37:56Speaker 5: That's my question To all mankind.
- 1:38:00Speaker 5: Answer me where, where do we go from here?
- 1:38:05Speaker 5: When you were fourth class, man can't tell you the reason why.
- 1:38:09Speaker 5: And he got meuda triangé, he's yet still a mother.
- 1:38:13Speaker 5: He got his stick fun at itch.
- 1:38:16Speaker 5: Now All aboard a Bum-Zan-Guns and pump and soul.
- 1:38:19Speaker 5: Help you with.
- 1:38:20Speaker 5: Where do we go from here?
- 1:38:53Speaker 5: Leaders, leaders of regulations, I'm misled as Involving double-deeds and corruption and in here, quest for Absolute power, becoming dictator, and in safety subjects they look over, creating a very explosive situation when the only way out is an undrevolution.
- 1:39:18Speaker 5: And as man tries to doubt Peace, faced with netias, rat Stumble, break, famine and drugs, you tell me which way is out.
- 1:39:27Speaker 5: The question is where, where do we go from here?
- 1:39:32Speaker 5: My humble question To all mankind?
- 1:39:36Speaker 5: I'm shambled where, where do we go from here?
- 1:39:40Speaker 5: When you were fourth class man can't tell you the reason why.
- 1:39:45Speaker 5: Corruption so terrible that even the corrupt in Marvel, the, got his stick fun at itch Ruling.
- 1:39:52Speaker 5: A world of Bum-Zan-Guns and total gun to a dirty way.
- 1:39:56Speaker 5: Where do we go from here?
- 1:39:59Speaker 5: So I see Phillip Alexander making speech.
- 1:40:07Speaker 4: To say he concede.
- 1:40:08Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
- 1:40:09Speaker 4: Only one here, a little part of.
- 1:40:11Speaker 4: Only one here, a little part of Phillip's speech.
- 1:40:13Speaker 1: I surprise Phillip actually making speech In front of people, and I would have thought this would have been on Facebook.
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: Only one here I selects.
- 1:40:28Speaker 3: That all of you for remaining throughout the day.
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: It's been a long day, a week, month.
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been busy.
- 1:40:37Speaker 3: On June 6th, when an election was announced, we as a progressional parliament party At a decision.
- 1:40:47Speaker 3: We were not contemplating Local government election at any point.
- 1:40:54Speaker 3: All of our resources was aimed at A general election and we were building that.
- 1:40:59Speaker 3: We were creating our shadow MPs and launching them on the ground, putting them into the communities and getting them busy so that the public Would have known quantities to compare.
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: Contrast vote for as an election time.
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: So this was just a whole month.
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: And one of the highly funded parties.
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: I never referred to the progressive Parliament party as a small party Of all the parties that exist in general to be Progressive Parliament party.
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: That's the most, the least, the most.
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: I think that makes us a big party.
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: Alright, it's okay, salute to you.
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: Basically, you can see the man sitting here on the loss From everything I see in the election results, all of the CNC through again A lot of live or at least posting as they go along right.
- 1:41:47Speaker 1: Every time you see Philip Alexander Come up on our post I really didn't realize there wasn't so much a constituency.
- 1:41:54Speaker 1: But every time you see them come out On our post they have a 5 vote.
- 1:41:59Speaker 1: But it's not a small party.
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: It's not a small party.
- 1:42:02Speaker 1: They're doing the least, the most of the least, the least of the most.
- 1:42:04Speaker 1: So they didn't have a small party and they prepping for local government election.
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: But looking again here like it's deadlock, right, akash, easy, looking like a deadlock Between the UNC and the PNM, and I think a lot of it was predictable.
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: As we say, in the weeks leading up to this, people, disenchanted people.
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
- 1:42:29Speaker 1: Did I choose that non-neutral color?
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: I was supposed to wear something neutral.
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I mean.
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: That ship's safe, that's safe.
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: I would never get to edit this out and change the color.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: It's jersey.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: I plan to keep a jersey for whoever Winner would wear.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: That to know.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: But looking like deadlock, and I suppose this gives good encouragement or good signs for the UNC Going into the next election and also gives a little stick to the PNM To say here we're going on, let a girl act together and it'll be cut earlier.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: And in the last two elections it had.
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: They tell Olia they don't want no part Of Olia at all in Tobago.
- 1:43:00Speaker 1: Look what they choose over Olia in Tobago.
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: They decide listen, whatever color, come with me, we're not going back With PNM in Tobago.
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: And then you hear any same thing from Trindad Now we're losing Grunginie corporations.
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: That is not a good sign Two years away from my election, and I hope that it means that we have enough time For Olia who's governing, because it don't matter to me who won and who lost, but if, when Olia did, olia could do things to make the country A better place.
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: Right, I know Olia is studying, we Olia, don't forget, we are ready.
- 1:43:34Speaker 1: But if you could make the country a better place, so losing the election or losing Grunginie elections Might be the best blessing that we could ever hope for.
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: Or let's hear my partner once A little regent.
- 1:43:45Speaker 1: One right One is always say Every election is supposed to vote out whoever in power.
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: Remind them that they have nothing for granted.
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: You come and you go In, out, in, out.
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: They're revolving, though, so that nobody sit down there and get too comfortable and feel like power belongs to them, because the reality is that when you go in there and you start to soak, it's problems for we.
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: So I hope that this little kick in their pants Will tell them alright.
- 1:44:11Speaker 1: Well, here we're going on.
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: We need a better style of governance, a better style of communication.
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: We need more to be happy In the road infrastructure.
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: We need to begin water in Shaguanos.
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: You know, understand, whatever the issues are.
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: We need a proper plan for diversification, we need to address the issue for an exchange, we need to address issues with small businesses, and so all these things are things that you have two years to start to do, work and to put in place.
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: And do I have a lot of hope that this will happen?
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: Not, really, I'm not sure that I have a lot of hope that it will happen, because I always, you know, when I start back voting, when I see porno-spain vote for anybody else but PNM, because it's beat me sometimes that Somebody, somebody Communities that under your stewardship Forever, that never change hands, people still vote for all your regardless.
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: That is impressive to me.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: And the same thing in UNT Somebody seats that they have in some of the rural areas.
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: They say how much change come in all this?
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: All it went in power twice in all the history and it's not like when all the, when they all focus on the areas that are so great.
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: I mean, is it same?
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: All in not.
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: The political process is not designed for the people.
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: It's not designed to benefit the people and the governments that go in place.
- 1:45:30Speaker 1: It's almost like it don't matter.
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: If you feel about changing through our Manos time After SWAT the other day in our Manse boy, you know you're getting nonsense from one side and you're sure you're getting nonsense from the next side.
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: At least he has somebody there who you're unsure about.
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: But Gypsy particular song here.
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: That tells a story for me that I feel is more Of what we should pay attention to, because you see the best and the brightest Any country could sit down and talk politics and pay attention to that whole day.
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: What you will find from the best and the brightest Any country too is that you have a job, you have savings, you're educating yourself further, you have two, three streams of income you have business.
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: That is where you will find From the people who already pass a certain point in life, right, but what you find is that the people who most vulnerable To this process tend to the people who they depend on them and they're vulnerable To the process and that is who these fellows and them Is go after.
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: So I just want to go again to play one of the Well, easily one of Gypsy biggest songs as a reminder that, no matter who Win them election and them thing, you see, you, you have to study yourself and take care of yourself.
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: Because when you have a man who is studying you At all and not need to talk about how to do it, your betterment, and next one who's saying, if you ain't got no betterment and you decide to turn to the life of crime, we gonna knock it on here and reload and knock it and knock it and knock it.
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: I don't respect what Gypsy say here.
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: I don't respect what Gypsy talk about here.
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: And this song so fitting, no matter what era you play it in.
- 1:47:24Speaker 5: All he study was his speakers, his sneakers and clothes.
- 1:47:26Speaker 5: He learn how to dress and he learn how to pose.
- 1:47:29Speaker 5: He can't get no work.
- 1:47:30Speaker 5: He can't get no job.
- 1:47:31Speaker 5: He decide to steal and he decide to rob it.
- 1:47:33Speaker 5: But little black boy couldn't last long at all.
- 1:47:37Speaker 5: The police put a bullet through his dunce.
- 1:47:39Speaker 5: He had a scar.
- 1:47:39Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:47:41Speaker 5: Little black boy, show some concern.
- 1:47:45Speaker 5: Little black boy, education is the key To get you off the streets and not poverty.
- 1:47:49Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:47:51Speaker 5: Little black boy, show some concern.
- 1:47:53Speaker 5: Little black boy, education is the key To get you off the streets and not poverty.
- 1:48:00Speaker 5: There was a little black boy.
- 1:48:16Speaker 5: A rude boy was he.
- 1:48:17Speaker 5: All the boy ambition was to conduct a crime.
- 1:48:19Speaker 5: All the boy ambition was to conduct a mob scene.
- 1:48:21Speaker 5: With a ring in his nose, a gold bead in his mouth, he feel very proud when they call him a tout.
- 1:48:27Speaker 5: So proud was the boy that the boy never learned.
- 1:48:29Speaker 5: He could have worked hard and buy a matty of his own.
- 1:48:31Speaker 5: So he pack for a dollar.
- 1:48:34Speaker 5: He hustled for a smoke.
- 1:48:35Speaker 5: He pack so that he could buy a little coke.
- 1:48:37Speaker 5: Now he cook on the coke and off the matty and one more little black vagrant in the country.
- 1:48:43Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:48:45Speaker 5: Little black boy, show some concern.
- 1:48:47Speaker 5: Little black boy, education is the key To get you off the streets and not poverty.
- 1:48:53Speaker 5: Little black boy, think about your race.
- 1:48:55Speaker 5: Little black boy, when will you find your place?
- 1:48:57Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:49:09Speaker 5: When you're black, you just black.
- 1:49:11Speaker 5: You can't help but being black.
- 1:49:12Speaker 5: But because you were black, you don't stay in the back.
- 1:49:15Speaker 5: Be black, be black, but be conscious.
- 1:49:24Speaker 5: Look in the front, see who's the doctor.
- 1:49:28Speaker 5: Look in the back, see who's the lawyer.
- 1:49:31Speaker 5: Look in the back, see who's the banker.
- 1:49:33Speaker 5: Look at the business who's the owner.
- 1:49:35Speaker 5: Look at the staff.
- 1:49:37Speaker 5: See who's the worker.
- 1:49:39Speaker 5: Look at the trucks.
- 1:49:40Speaker 5: See who's the damn man.
- 1:49:41Speaker 5: Look who eating out of them garbage can.
- 1:49:44Speaker 5: Look in the jail, see who you'll see through.
- 1:49:46Speaker 5: A lot of little black boy, just like you.
- 1:49:49Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:49:51Speaker 5: Little black boy, show some concern.
- 1:49:54Speaker 5: Little black boy, education is the key To get you off the streets and not poverty.
- 1:49:59Speaker 5: Little black boy, go to school and learn.
- 1:50:02Speaker 5: Little black boy, you have to show some concern.
- 1:50:05Speaker 5: Little black boy, think about your race.
- 1:50:08Speaker 5: Little black boy, when will you find your place?
- 1:50:10Speaker 5: Yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea yea aya Ya.
- 1:50:15Speaker 5: Little black boy, take a look at yourself.
- 1:50:24Speaker 5: Little black boy takya, look at yourself.
- 1:50:26Speaker 5: Little black boy, put your guns on the shelf.
- 1:50:29Speaker 5: Little black boy watch what you do.
- 1:50:34Speaker 5: Little black boy takya would look at you.
- 1:50:37Speaker 5: Little black boy, look at other people to.
- 1:50:56Speaker 1: I find Gypsy quiet these days in all the election process and things you know.
- 1:50:58Speaker 1: I mean I find Gypsy little quiet.
- 1:51:00Speaker 1: I hope he good, I hope everything good with Gypsy.
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: But that little black boy was a huge song I sure most of us would remember when he had originally bring out that tune and that make people stop.
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: That is a song you have to stop and listen and so relevant up to today where the most affected people you know anyway.
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: Gypsy again another song along the exact same lines with the politics.
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: Now this is where Gypsy gay self-reliance on the paper, because when you sing songs like these and you stand up or seen as stand up for the people that are called a calypsoanian, they don't trust you.
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: When you're going to join any politics, you know, especially if you, if you go to PNM, right, but back with the PNM now requires I ain't really here not running for local government election.
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: So I wonder if you go make it to the general election but again without that, luck there and stupidity to come, because now everybody who feel their momentum and who feel there to do extra, we are two years of stupidity.
- 1:51:57Speaker 1: Stupidity is on the way.
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: But there's another one from Gypsy here that I sum it up so well.
- 1:52:08Speaker 5: Its not laugh, it's space of this land.
- 1:52:35Speaker 5: Don't stay together.
- 1:52:36Speaker 5: How could someplace so good turn out so bad?
- 1:52:39Speaker 5: Where is the love in this land that we once had?
- 1:52:43Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:52:46Speaker 5: Somebody gone with the love that we had.
- 1:52:49Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:52:53Speaker 5: Somebody driving this country mad.
- 1:52:56Speaker 5: And we yes, you and me we have to stop this conspiracy.
- 1:53:01Speaker 5: We are turning you in.
- 1:53:04Speaker 5: Yes, you and me, we have to stop this conspiracy.
- 1:53:08Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:53:11Speaker 5: Drug addiction and prostitution, teenage pregnancy have taken over my land.
- 1:53:35Speaker 5: Much too much political corruption.
- 1:53:38Speaker 5: Talk about race on the Cosmo, confusion who would ever try to put all these wrongs right?
- 1:53:45Speaker 5: Too much frustration without no end in sight.
- 1:53:48Speaker 5: Leader after leader put the nation under pressure and ordinary people just have to run for cover long.
- 1:53:55Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:53:58Speaker 5: Somebody gone with the love that we had.
- 1:54:01Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:54:05Speaker 5: Somebody driving my country mad.
- 1:54:08Speaker 5: And we yes, you and me we have to stop this conspiracy.
- 1:54:13Speaker 5: I'm turning you in.
- 1:54:16Speaker 5: Yes, you and me, we have to stop this conspiracy.
- 1:54:20Speaker 5: Somebody tiefened this whole ammunition.
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: Couldn't play an episode about gypsy and not play this right.
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: This is an SOS.
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: Which captain should dedicate this to?
- 1:54:42Speaker 1: Location seven miles off the coast of Venezuela.
- 1:54:48Speaker 5: Sos, sos, mayday, mayday, mayday, it's really died.
- 1:55:07Speaker 5: Our love's.
- 1:55:08Speaker 5: A real liner Sailing the Caribbean sea With Arnold captain Eric Williams.
- 1:55:19Speaker 5: For, yes, it's two and three.
- 1:55:24Speaker 5: Once I knew Eric Williams passed away.
- 1:55:27Speaker 5: This ship hit the water.
- 1:55:28Speaker 5: That day, someone turned the bridge over to a captain named Jim.
- 1:55:34Speaker 5: As my blood crawled, things started to fall, pulled me head when I said I won.
- 1:55:40Speaker 5: Captain, this ship is sinking.
- 1:55:43Speaker 5: Captain, this is a rough.
- 1:55:48Speaker 5: Oh yes, we just can't call those 17 low electricity.
- 1:55:52Speaker 5: We are in pressure reading low.
- 1:55:53Speaker 5: Shall we abandon ship or shall we stay on it and perish slow?
- 1:56:00Speaker 5: We don't know, we don't know.
- 1:56:02Speaker 5: Captain, you tell me what to do?
- 1:56:04Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:56:24Speaker 5: Katrina died or.
- 1:56:25Speaker 5: She was a beauty With wealth that views surpassed and in her day she sailed majestically.
- 1:56:36Speaker 5: There were few in her class.
- 1:56:41Speaker 5: Faithfully, she pulled the sailor's knee.
- 1:56:44Speaker 5: Some were overpowered by greed and so they built what's slow.
- 1:56:49Speaker 5: Some took my bulk and go.
- 1:56:51Speaker 5: Now she looked all she's on the lull.
- 1:56:54Speaker 5: She could be any fit on her hull.
- 1:56:58Speaker 5: Captain, this ship is sinking.
- 1:57:00Speaker 5: Captain, this is a rough.
- 1:57:05Speaker 5: Oh yes, we just can't call those 17 low electricity.
- 1:57:09Speaker 5: We are in pressure reading low.
- 1:57:10Speaker 5: Shall we abandon ship or shall we stay on it and perish slow.
- 1:57:17Speaker 5: We don't know.
- 1:57:19Speaker 5: We don't know.
- 1:57:20Speaker 5: Captain, you tell me what to do?
- 1:57:22Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:57:41Speaker 5: Katrina died in her day of sailing.
- 1:57:44Speaker 5: She was a friend to one and all.
- 1:57:49Speaker 5: She never, once, ever, hesitated To answer all SOS calls and, yes, well, she always did her best To help all those in distress.
- 1:58:05Speaker 5: Now it's so sad to see she's in difficulties, though she her chair, someone in chair.
- 1:58:12Speaker 5: I'm sarcastic.
- 1:58:13Speaker 5: I need a clap, captain.
- 1:58:17Speaker 5: This ship is sinking.
- 1:58:18Speaker 5: Captain, this is a rough.
- 1:58:23Speaker 5: Oh yes, we just can't call those 17 low electricity.
- 1:58:26Speaker 5: We are in pressure reading low.
- 1:58:28Speaker 5: Shall we abandon ship or shall we stay on it and perish slow?
- 1:58:34Speaker 5: We don't know.
- 1:58:35Speaker 5: We don't know.
- 1:58:36Speaker 5: Captain, you tell me what to do?
- 1:58:40Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: One of the greatest calyps I've ever written.
- 1:58:52Speaker 1: I want to make a list today.
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: I want to make a top 100 list of the most 100 best songs in the history of Calypso.
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: I definitely want to bring the 99 and I'll add one to it for you.
- 1:59:02Speaker 1: Listen, I go in and out, I may have to late watching election results and nothing up man.
- 1:59:06Speaker 1: I don't care about local government election, evidently.
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: But the gypsy had a message for the captain, so maybe the captain will listen to him.
- 1:59:15Speaker 1: I'll show he and the captain talking already.
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: He might be singing that for him directly.
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: Now I'll leave it all with the gypsy here.
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this song or not, but in looking up the songs for this episode, it's the first time I hear this one too, but I like it a lot.
- 1:59:29Speaker 1: My original idea was to close with Soka Train, but because I like this song so much, I'll leave it all with this one.
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: This is Suzan, by Gypsy.
- 2:00:05Speaker 5: Music playing, music playing, music playing, music playing, music playing, music playing, music playing.
- 2:03:14Speaker 1: Music playing, music playing, music playing.