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Scott Lively: Untold History Of LGBTQ Movement, DEI In The Military · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Hey friends welcome today's podcast with our special guest may be one of his
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last interviews he writes quote at the outset it's important to recognize
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that what we today call diversity equity and inclusion has always been a
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social engineering campaign of the gay movement in which radical minorities are
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merely useful ponds establishing homosexuality as culturally equivalent to
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race in the civil rights movement in the 1990s they quarterback the national
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anti-discrimination public policy campaign to stigmatize and criminalize
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social disapproval of homosexuality using the tactic of building sexual
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orientation with ripp bundling sexual orientation with race as inseparable
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legal equivalents coming up the history of DEI in the military that's next
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welcome to world view matters discussing controversial issues discerning
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current events defending biblical Christianity no topic off limits and now
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here's your host David Fierzo well friends you're in for a special treat this
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man has been fighting on the front lines in the culture wars for many decades
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and we can learn a lot from his columns and learn a lot from his books and that
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is author and pastor Scott lively human rights consultant and missionary with
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service in more than 50 countries is the author of eight books including
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redeeming the rainbow and also got a brand new one we're going to tell you
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about in a minute the website is Scott lively dot net that's Scott lively dot net
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and let's bring him on right now brother so good to see you and spend some time
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again good to be back with you David God bless you God bless you so people know
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what we're going to talk about based on what I read from your article the
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history of DEI in the military but before we start I said something a little
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provocative there it is that you can find that at on scotch website or world
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net daily and there's an else also I at world net daily it says my final WND
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column as a February 17 my final column so you had a health scare a couple
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months ago share what's going on with you personally and why I said this may be
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your final interview well David a couple of years ago I decided that I wanted
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to retire from the culture war it's been now as of this year it's I got started
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in 1988 and taking on battles it's always been by the prompting of the holy
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spirit ever since I got saved I've always sort of taken on battles that other
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people were not you know aspects of the war that other people were not
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addressing for example in 1995 I published my first book the pink swastika
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homosexuality in the Nazi party knowing that it was going to essentially prevent
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me from ever having a major leadership role in the national profanely movement
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because it was just controversial and too explosive so I've spent all these
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years doing that it was named a few years ago as the public enemy number one of
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the global LGBT movement because I had essentially become a missionary to the
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global profanely movement and was having a lot of success in preventing
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their agenda in foreign countries not here they've just been too powerful here
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in the US but I have been fighting I was raised up as a as a culture war
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activist during the Reagan Revolution and when the Reagan Revolution sort of
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faded away and and and it gave way to the heavy rhino control of the Republican
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party I continue to to work as a sort of behind the scenes and behind enemy
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lines activists for all these years but I decided after all this time to you
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know I got I've got a bunch of grandkids now and and frankly with the with the
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re-election of President Trump and the anti-EI movement rising to such
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spectacular heights now in terms of power and effectiveness I don't think
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I'm really needed anymore in terms of I mean I think the insights that I have
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are valuable and I'm always going to provide those in terms of taking on new
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battles and and and being where the fighting is the hottest and all that I'm
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done with that and so I decided on my birthday for in December of last year I
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would resign from the culture war but just a couple weeks before November 25th
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I had a heart attack it's sort of like with the Lord sort of rubber stamping
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endorsing that plan anyway well thank you for sharing that with us we're so
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blessed to have you on if this is the last time again and out Jeff bring up our
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previous podcast with Scott confessions of a hate criminal you guys can go to
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Worldview Matters.tv that's Worldview Matters.tv and in the search at the
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upper right just put in Scott lively to watch that one or just listen to that one
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if you're just doing audio because that shares a lot more of his background in
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the battle that you've been fighting brother I googled your name earlier just
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for Grins and one of the first links that came up was the Southern Poverty Law
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Center you're on their hate list right and so this by the way the mental or the
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baton is being passed there's a lot of great people doing some really good
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work let me mention real quick and get your response to Chris Chris Rufo
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Christopher Rufo yeah he's the first name that came to my I've never met the
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kid but I in fact I don't even know how old he is but I've seen his picture but
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he really is become a rising star Robbie star book yep I applauded him in a
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column I did it a couple of months ago it's just the whole the whole Maga
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movement is decided to take this on finally finally the service recognized
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the centrality of the LGBT agenda to the entire leftist juggernaut right
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it's always been the point of the spear going all the way back before anybody
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was talking about left versus right the LGBTs were planning and
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strategizing and building incrementally going all the way back to the 20s the
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1920s and I've been involved like I said since the Reagan Revolution I've
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seen the culture war from the front lines and multiple dimensions of it
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all along it was a single issue focus for me for a very long time until I ran
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for governor of Massachusetts in 2014 2018 and brought in to become a sort of
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full spectrum conservative at that point but I think I know more about the
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culture war the LGBT when you talk about the culture war you're really talking
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about the attempt of the LGBT movement to conquer Christianity and all these
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aspects of it including the black civil rights movement which predates it all
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became pawns and tools of the gaze to achieve their objective and the way that
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you can tell even you know there's lots of evidence of that tons of it but the
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best evidence of it is just look at the pride calendar you know look at the
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look at the diversity calendar in America right wax get February right frozen
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February and women get get slush month march right the gays get two months the
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two best months of the year whether I whether wise and in terms of access to
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schoolchildren and that's June and October October is a history month so that's
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all you need to know about who's really driving the agenda who has the power
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who is been empowered and is empowering themselves by the promotion of D.E.I.
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and the and the blacks and women I mean when you're talking women in
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love to such and you're really talking to a large extent lesbianism right not
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entirely but you know the the ones that actually achieved the highest level of
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power you know governors and his attorney generals and all that all across
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America that sort of representing women's rights are actually representing
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lesbian rights or lesbian favoritism and and that's just the reality of the
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of America today and it's always been that and they and and all these other
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constituencies have just been bundled together in order to help them get
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through the the challenges of public disapproval so anyway okay Scott I want
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to encourage our viewers and our listeners who've got people on all kinds of
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platforms praise God to pray for Scott lively and his family and I also want you
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guys to pray for people like Chris Rufo and others who are taking up this baton
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and this mantle I there's a I follow him on sub stack and he's written some
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great articles and books and he put something out in January said what the
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left did to me and my family and Scott I know you'll relate to this you've had
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you've had you've had all kinds of things I made a comment underneath that's
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under that story said welcome to the cloud brother yeah and I pray that pray
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for endurance for people like him and people that are fighting this fight now he
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says it in part when I live in Seattle they put up posters around my
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neighborhood with my home address telling insane lies about me and instructing
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activists to show up at my door later they sent letters to a few hundred of my
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neighbors calling me a Nazi and a white supremacist I had death threats references
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to my family were on there the whole deal and he said I a few times I'd to
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pack up the kids and leave town and he mentions one time one of these
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activists found one of my children at a park with the babysitter and yelled at
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him until he started crying and my son came home terrified and it goes on but
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this is what they do this is this is how the left plays the demonic left go
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ahead I've been there every single thing he's talking about I have been through
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myself they had oh man I'm writing my life story and I'm I'm writing it I've
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been developing if you read my columns on world that daily is 456 columns
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there goodness over over the years I've developed what I call a style
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testimonial evangelism when I write it isn't just about you know a guy
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commenting about what other people are doing as much as possible I have provided
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first and witness account of things that have happened I bring up stuff in my
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past I've lived that way and and I believe the most that's the most powerful
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testimony that you can have is something from your own experience you're
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expressing to people at using yourself as an example like Paul did right not
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for self-lorification but for sort of certifying that you know what you're
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talking about because you actually have been there you're not just repeating
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what someone else is doing or or or recounting the actions of others you're
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actually saying hey I did this I saw this this is what happened and I I
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pursued it so now in retirement I'm writing my life story and and I'm writing
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it doing it with this testimony evangelism style as sort of like it's like a
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string of beads right in which it's like a timeline of my life and many of
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the stories along it are full booklets are even even books and some cases
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because of the for example the the lawsuit the smug versus lively lawsuit it's
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been six and a half years in US federal court defending against the the claim
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that I was guilty of crimes against humanity for pricking against homosexuality
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in Uganda and almost you know and I ran for governor this is the another of
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the of the beads is the the experience of actually of being a nobody in fact
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a social pariah in Massachusetts running for governor twice the first time
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to break out of the Saul Linsky box that they had me in to poison the jury pool
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against me right that's the idea that the only way that I could overcome what
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they were doing which would I would have ended up you know I mean it wasn't a
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criminal case I wouldn't have been jailed but I would have been completely wiped
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out and and so I ran for governor in 2014 in order to do something bigger than
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the then the LGBTs could control in terms of media coverage and it worked and I
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broke out of that box but so these are all different sort of beads on the
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on the string of first-hand experience talking about the history of the
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culture so from the Reagan revolution to the Trump insurgency right the
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counter-revolution is really what it is yeah I've been in every single step of
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the way often in the most important of the battles I personally pick it at
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outside the Supreme Court when they were doing the Bergerfeld case I was my
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law firm when I had read my law firm in Southern California my law partner
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and I would be only law firm in the nation to ask the Supreme Court not to take
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the Lawrence versus Texas case which is the one that overturned the
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Sodomy laws and provided the springboard to gay marriage which happened the
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first one in Massachusetts under Romney yeah all things I was there a
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saw them all and so I'm writing I mean I guess in that sense I'm still in the
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culture and the sense of but all but in terms of being the of telling the
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history and and out of that comes insights and explanations and background
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that assist those are that are on the front lines now and I hope very much
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that those who are fighting the battle will not will forget that some of us
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like myself Peter LaBarbara you know Linda Hart in in in Ohio you know this
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Brian Kamecker in Massachusetts is mass resistance there were a handful of
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us who were single issue pro family activists going all the way back that fought
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this battle Kelsey Gabbard's dad Mike Gabbard was was one of us and we all
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met they're back in 1992 I think in the in a in the basement of a hotel in
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Framingham Massachusetts Mike Gabbard actually flew to meet me on the West
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Coast and we flew together to go to that meeting and and we we drafted we wrote
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what would become sort of the definition of the natural family you know all
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these we're so many all these plans but eventually it just came down to just
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defining what the natural family actually is because that's the thing that we
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really need to preserve and conserve and to bring back to primacy in the
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culture yeah so wait these these vignettes these these experiences I think are
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valuable to those like Rupo and and others who are taking this on don't forget
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that there are there are pioneers who who went before you on these trails and
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took the which before anyone was paying attention right they did to me
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everything they did to Donald Trump every single thing they did to Donald Trump
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they did to me first when I was an organ doxing law fair I had four lawsuits
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for over for over 11 million dollars against me before the crimes against
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humanity lawsuit years later the biggest your squads that would kick over the
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tables we were collecting petition signatures to try to put things on the
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ballot dirty tricks having you know being being sued the first lawsuit being
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sued for that battery by a lesbian activist who infiltrated our private
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meeting and when I put her out physically gently but firmly she sued me for
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battery and they they scheduled the trial for that for three weeks for six
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weeks before the election of ballot measure nine which was the that was a no
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special rights act which we lost an organ but we won in Colorado and it became
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amendment two that was the basis for the for the Supreme Court case Roma versus
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Evans right which was the first of the four lawsuits I mean of the four
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Supreme Court decisions the majority opinion of which was written by Anthony
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Kennedy that established gay cultural supremacy in America it was taking down
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amendment two was what did that anyway that was all I was part of all that but
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but I ended up in in in front of a of a Nike corporate lawyer who was put in
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place as as the pro-tem judge of this defamation case and they timed it so that
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it happened just before the election and then for the election cycle they had a
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television commercial I mean of course I of course I lost it our our our lawyer
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was it was first case on a law school but they the TV commercial had these
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three vignettes and the center one was this ominous you know it's like they said
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you know a lesbian is beaten by an official of the OCA this is they spent a
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million dollars on this all over the state and then they put posters you talk
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about rooflets they put posters with my face on it throughout the entire
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neighborhood where I live with my family and hang your head and shame Scott
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lively and then listed all this nonsense so you know I just these are the
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things you face or you used now that Trump is an office and I'm just I'm blown
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away that he is not sort of giving any ground to the to the LGBTs at this
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point we'll see what happens during Pride Month right because it looks like if
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if he this is the big problem if if if people listen to the show don't get
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anything else from what I say just remember this battle is not about DEI this
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isn't this battle is about the LGBT agenda and whether we get we push them
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back into the closet or they stay out and remain in power and gay marriage gets
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incorporated into mainstream culture from now on that's gonna be the test
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because if they win that battle and we don't roll back gay marriage and we
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don't we don't get back to the place where we have tolerance but not acceptance
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yeah or the LGBT agenda then it's all gonna be for a waste because they're
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just gonna grow back up like a you know like a weed they're gonna grow back up
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and and and everything that we thought we've won will be lost again as this
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matters back to Scott lively by the way follow us on YouTube we have a new
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YouTube channel world view matters David Fiorazo Scott your take real quick on
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the demonic I mean the Democrat governor of Wisconsin who recently wants
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mothers to be called inseminated persons this was just in the news last week
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inseminated persons he actually changed the wording of some of the language in
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one of these section one of these bills just you know we know that they're
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gonna double down we know that some are not going to just say maybe we should
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come back toward the middle a little bit and be moderate no this their
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ideologically driven the there's this spirit of delusion and go ahead they're
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just crazy I mean the thing about it is that the public has never really been
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behind this but everyone was afraid to say that they worked for it and that's
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the power that was the power that the left wielded right when you when you control
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the media you have you know the intelligence agencies are driving your
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narrative and all that you can basically act in impunity but you can't do that
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anymore and once the once the population realized that that that Donald Trump
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was gonna win and they didn't have to hide their true views anymore all the
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sudden people started coming out of the woodwork and pretending like they'd
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been doing it all along which is the funny part but you know all these people
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that were just you know shaking in their boots that are all of our allies and
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our friends they're now out in the street and they realize they're looking around
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we have the power now we're not gonna put up with this garbage anymore yeah and
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so these these and when it comes to figures like the these and the governor of
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Maine too you know doubling and tripling down on you know these people are bought
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and paid for right their agents of of powers behind them and they really don't
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have a real choice yeah if you know they they've got to tell the line they they
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had they owe a tremendous amount to the people that that cheated them into
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office in many cases and it's good that it's happening because the because
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normal people you know the normies are back in charge and and they're not
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gonna put up with this anymore and that the more that the crazier the these
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lefty loons get the more vocal they are the the more powerful the anti-dei
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movement is going to get and so I think so Scott I want to go back to your
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article real quick and the history of DEI in the military and in the article you
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wrote we're gonna talk about don't ask don't tell briefly because that was
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signed in law in 1993 and how that affected things in the 90s but in the
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article you wrote about an essay that you did titled don't repeal don't ask
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don't tell and you sent it to senators it says there would certainly be a mass
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exodus of normal men from a homosexualized military the entire premise of a
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military system based on voluntary services that young men will want to serve
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but will normal men want to volunteer when they know they will share close
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quarters with other men for whom they will be objects of sexual interest it is
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a recipe for deep and widespread moral and morale problems go ahead we've just
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got three minutes left Scott and expound on that yeah that's you know I was
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friends with Ron Ray who was the jagged attorney that that fought the battle over
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gays in the military right remember Bill Clinton ran on that theme I confronted
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Clinton on a parallel topic about the Boy Scouts and a live
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simulcast in Portland and Seattle and got and forced him into a corner where he
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had just to say he did not support the the the homosexuals getting making
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advances in the Boy Scouts it was a great rush limbaugh covered covered that the
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next day but the military was his baby he was being funded by the big money
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gays in order to do that and and then as soon as he got into office he tried
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it crashed and burned but he pushed forward anyway he put it through an
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executive order granting homosexuals top secret security clearance that's
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when they took over the intelligence agencies there was all Clinton that did
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that and then so the battle was fought about gays in the military and the
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military won the conservatives in the military won but then the bureaucrats
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decided to capitulate anyway and they brought it don't ask don't tell as a
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compromise position which was really just a stepping stone waiting until the
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populace had been further propagandized enough that they would be willing to
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accept open homosexuality which that happened under Obama I fought this all
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the way around I actually went to DC with the article that I wrote and passed
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copies I confronted my senator Scott Brown or his office anyway who bragging
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that he had stood strong against getting letting him out of the committee and
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then within a month he's holding a press conference flipping his vote in
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support of of repeal of don't ask don't tell and accompanied by the most
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powerful LGBT move organization from Massachusetts standing behind him while
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he signed you know this I've seen all along and just as I predicted the
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the the recruitment had crashed totally until Trump got in and put big
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Pete Hankseth in that place and everything's turned around in the space of
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of days really up weeks so very briefly friends go to wnd dot com type in
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Scott lively and that's where you can look up the history of DEI in the
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military there's so much else I wanted to talk to you about I know your thoughts
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on Pete Hankseth I was going to get those but we've got less than a minute I
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just want to mention your brand new book Scott tell us about that in the
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Scott lively dot store called Nazi Germany's dirtiest secrets in 30 seconds
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please. Well this was gonna have been the sixth edition of the pink swastika but
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I did it as a solo book it's 620 pages of documentation on the homosexual
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roots of the Nazi party there would never have been a Nazi party have been for
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the German gay subculture and then they jumped the ocean came to the United
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States and and then they did the same thing over here and that's this book more
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about Americans understanding the roots of what happened here than it is about
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German. Okay Scott lively dot net brother I appreciate your voice and your
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work and your childless efforts through all these years God bless you sir and
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thank you for all you do. Friends God bless you and thank you so much for
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sharing the podcast and as always keep speaking the truth about things that