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Will there be a deal with Iran? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 2: Afternoon, everybody. It is the twenty eighth day of May.
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Speaker 2: Mark Davis in for Hugh from the state of Texas,
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Speaker 2: ground zero for all kinds of news. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: explain a few things to you from deep inside my state.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about the state
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Speaker 2: of play headed toward November in the mid terms broadly defined,
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Speaker 2: but right here in Texas where Ken Paxton is going
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Speaker 2: to be the next senator from my state. That has
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Speaker 2: come with no small amount of back and forth. That's
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Speaker 2: what the primaries are. So I've got some inside thoughts
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Speaker 2: and I've been listening to Hugh about this. I've obviously
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Speaker 2: been listening to my own listeners about this, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of people have had a lot to say, and
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Speaker 2: I think they're some things that I can bring you
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Speaker 2: from inside the path of that battle that led toward
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Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight points, dude. Well, that's just a beat
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Speaker 2: down for the Ages. I would say nobody saw that
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Speaker 2: coming except a couple of people saw that coming, and
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Speaker 2: they are all over me because I told everybody that
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Speaker 2: Ken was going to win, especially in the home stretch,
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Speaker 2: because duh, that's what the polls seemed to indicate. But
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Speaker 2: more on the polls and the path to that and
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Speaker 2: a little bit of inside baseball here in Texas in
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Speaker 2: a minute, because we've got some pretty breaking news on
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Speaker 2: the global scale. The negotiating teams for Iran and the
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Speaker 2: United States are going back and forth. Treasury Secretary Scott
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Speaker 2: bessen I am thoroughly delighted to see whether it's Marco
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Speaker 2: Rubio Vice President Vance. Today was Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant
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Speaker 2: playing Caroline Levitt as she is home taking care of
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Speaker 2: that beautiful little baby girl of hers, putting the heavy
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Speaker 2: hitters in to do the press briefing, and it's it's
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Speaker 2: just great. It's it's it's wonderful calisthenics for anybody in
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Speaker 2: the cabinet because they're obviously going to be well versed
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Speaker 2: on the area of their expertise. Obviously a lot of
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Speaker 2: economy questions, a lot of affordability questions, but almost everything
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Speaker 2: has something to do with spending, something to do with
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Speaker 2: government expense, something to do with what comes under Scott
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Speaker 2: Besson's umbrella there at Treasury. So he was doing the
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Speaker 2: press briefing. Got a little bit of that to play
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Speaker 2: for you here in a second, But the main news
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Speaker 2: is and I listen, let me give you the news,
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Speaker 2: my reaction to it, and then your reaction to It's
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Speaker 2: kind of what I do on any show that I do,
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Speaker 2: and when I show up anybody else's house, we do
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Speaker 2: the same thing. One eight hundred and five to two
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Speaker 2: oh one two three four. One eight hundred and five
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Speaker 2: to two oh one two three four. He got some
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Speaker 2: great guests. Admiral Mark Montgomery's joining us from the Foundation
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Speaker 2: for Defensive Democracies in just a few minutes to get
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Speaker 2: his reaction on this latest and a possible possible breakthrough
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Speaker 2: in the path forward getting to some satisfactory resolution with
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Speaker 2: regard to the United States and Iran. Great Jim Garretty
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Speaker 2: is going to join us from National Review. Josh crash
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Speaker 2: Hour is going to be here. Lots of people, but
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Speaker 2: the voices we value the most are yours one eight
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Speaker 2: hundred five to two oh one two three four one
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Speaker 2: eight hundred five two oh one two three four, and
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Speaker 2: we will talk about stuff your thoughts about Paxton v. Cornyn,
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Speaker 2: about the midterms writ large, about the prospects for getting
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Speaker 2: to some type of resolution in this war. This was
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Speaker 2: a lot of Oh, speaking of my other show, that's
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Speaker 2: what I do. I'm sure we've run across each other
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Speaker 2: at some point. I'm the happy morning host at six
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Speaker 2: sixty am. The answer right here in this building, right
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Speaker 2: here in Dallas Fort Worth. So I finished my show
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Speaker 2: this morning, where needless to say, it's been a lot
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Speaker 2: of the Texas Primary, but we took a little took
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Speaker 2: little side trip during the mid section of today's show
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Speaker 2: to talk about where we stand in the entire war
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Speaker 2: situation and what has been happening and what has not
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Speaker 2: been happening, and how everybody feels about that. Let me
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Speaker 2: start from square one and share some thoughts and you
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Speaker 2: can share some back. And I look forward to hearing
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Speaker 2: what all of our guests have to say about this
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Speaker 2: because it may be the big story of the day
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Speaker 2: if in fact, in fact, this is the beginning of
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Speaker 2: a sixty day cease fire. A lot of elements on
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Speaker 2: the table there. The necessary parts of it, as described
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Speaker 2: by Scott Besant, are their enriched uranium has got to
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Speaker 2: come out. That's a big story. How exactly how I
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Speaker 2: know there are people smarter than me, closer to the
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Speaker 2: situation than me with the answers to that, or at
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Speaker 2: least some speculation about that. So I am not. One
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Speaker 2: thing I'm not going to do is sit here and
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Speaker 2: badger this administration as many will do, and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: we need the full ten point plan on exactly how
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Speaker 2: you plan on getting that uranium out, and we need
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Speaker 2: a date certain by which it'll be out. I mean,
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Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, let's go. That's going to be
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Speaker 2: the nature of the media coverage. That's going to be
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Speaker 2: the namenature of what a lot of President Trump's tormentors
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Speaker 2: in Democrat and Republican circles are going to be saying.
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Speaker 2: I won't be I will. Here's what I will be saying.
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Speaker 2: I pray that it works. We really need it to work.
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Speaker 2: And so anyway, plank number one was there, enriched uranium
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Speaker 2: has got to come out of the country. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if we can bombit out of the country. So,
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Speaker 2: in a particularly telling and kind of tense moment on
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Speaker 2: this morning's local show of mine, I said, here come
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Speaker 2: the words. Here come the words. Nobody's gonna like them.
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Speaker 2: And I'm not advocating it or saying I'm suddenly okay
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Speaker 2: with it. I needed somebody to tell me, and maybe
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Speaker 2: last Admiral Montgomery, if he can tell me how we
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Speaker 2: get enriched uranium out of Iran without boots on the groan.
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Speaker 2: That's right, without boots on the ground. And I'm not
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Speaker 2: talking about five hundred thousand troops there for ten years.
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Speaker 2: I mean some type of special forces, some type of
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Speaker 2: limited operation where we send people in, get uranium, get
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Speaker 2: it out. Do we even know where it is? Have
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Speaker 2: been as Saddam did with weapons of mass destruction? Wink wink,
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Speaker 2: remember that, have they been able to spirit it elsewhere
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Speaker 2: or maybe even out of the country, Which brings us
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Speaker 2: to Burier number two, and that is it's Iran. These
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Speaker 2: people are virtually impossible to deal with. Virtually impossible. I
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Speaker 2: hope they're not literally impossible. They don't care if they die. Wow,
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Speaker 2: seventy two virgins shake hands with all a bonus plan.
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Speaker 2: They apparently don't care the Iatolas don't if their economy
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Speaker 2: is just strangled and dying on the vine on its
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Speaker 2: worst day. The Soviet Union, where of course the stakes
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Speaker 2: were far higher. We had nukes pointed at them. They
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Speaker 2: because they had nukes pointed at us, but they didn't
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Speaker 2: want to die. The Soviets did not, you know, sit
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Speaker 2: there in the walls of the c and go. You know,
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Speaker 2: we're ambivalent if we get turned into glowing green glass
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Speaker 2: by President Regular, President Nixon or whatever. Whenever you ask
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Speaker 2: these people, they just don't care. And there's an old
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Speaker 2: saying in the world of negotiation that you will always
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Speaker 2: have the upper hand if you care the least if
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Speaker 2: any listening in life, in politics, in business, if you're
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Speaker 2: at the bargaining table and you just you're you're good
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Speaker 2: to just get up and walk away, say whatever. Man,
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Speaker 2: there's power in that man, power in that, and that
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Speaker 2: gives them huge power, even though we have decimated their military.
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Speaker 2: So to return to the three things that are a
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Speaker 2: key part of what might be the memorandum of understanding,
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Speaker 2: Enriched geraniums got to come out. Straight of horror moves
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Speaker 2: has to be open. It's international waters. Hello, the straight
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Speaker 2: of hormuves.
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Speaker 3: Has to be open.
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Speaker 2: And of course, the thing that's been the of President
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Speaker 2: Trump's logic all along, and that is no nuclear weapon
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Speaker 2: for Iran. Iran cannot become a nuclear power because if
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Speaker 2: they did, if they did, you know, you think the
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Speaker 2: four to fifty gas is tough, and it is. How
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Speaker 2: do you like six, seven or eight or nine dollars gas?
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Speaker 2: Because why not? Because the moment Iran has nuclear capability,
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Speaker 2: they can shut down the straight turn to us, you know,
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Speaker 2: flip us the big old bird and tell us in farzie,
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Speaker 2: what are you going to do about it? And there
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Speaker 2: won't be much we can do about it? Right now,
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Speaker 2: there are some things we can do about it. We're
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Speaker 2: doing them. They need to bear fruit. So I just
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Speaker 2: let just lift up in prayer the President, his team,
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Speaker 2: the negotiators, the prospects for peace, and ultimately to tie
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a bow around this. I know
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Speaker 2: that that affordability is an issue. Gas is expensive. It's
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Speaker 2: causing a lot of people's Trump support to go wobbly.
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Speaker 2: Saw some survey that you know, young men eighteen to
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Speaker 2: forty nine were like fifty percent Trump supporters last election,
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Speaker 2: and now it's down to like thirty something, and it's
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Speaker 2: because everybody's all torqued off because they don't like spending
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Speaker 2: you know, four to fifty for a gallon of gas
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Speaker 2: or seven fifty in Los Angeles. Gee, I wonder what
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Speaker 2: that difference is all about. So I get it. I
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Speaker 2: get it. It's it's a it's a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a I don't want to call it a tantrum, except
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Speaker 2: I just did. It's it's it's an understandable reaction born
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Speaker 2: of the moment. Okay, It's like the people are are
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Speaker 2: are fired up, not happy in this moment because it
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Speaker 2: is economic hardship, and it's asking a lot. It's asking
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Speaker 2: a lot for me to do what I'm about to do.
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Speaker 2: It's asking a lot for the President to do what
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Speaker 2: he has to do every day, and that is to
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Speaker 2: tell everybody just sit tight, just sit tight, because what
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Speaker 2: we're working toward is a world that is safer, a
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Speaker 2: non nuclear Iran, a Middle East that is more stable,
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Speaker 2: a shipping lane in the Strait of Hormoz that is
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Speaker 2: free of an Iranian terror threat. Our gas prices will
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Speaker 2: then come down and everything will be like it was before,
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Speaker 2: only much much better. Do we as a country have
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Speaker 3: Welcome, Hey, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 2: So listen. We got breaking news, and so one of
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Speaker 2: the first things I want to do is get people
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Speaker 2: I respect on to see what their thoughts are about
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Speaker 2: maybe just maybe fingers crossed some kind of breakthrough that
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Speaker 2: could lead to a sixty day extension of the ceasefire,
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Speaker 2: a memorandum of understanding. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett was doing
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Speaker 2: the press briefing. He said, there are three important pillars.
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Speaker 2: Got to get the enriched uranium out of Iran, no
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Speaker 2: nuclear capability for Iran, and open the strait of horror moves.
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Speaker 2: It's like we're getting teased every few days. It's like
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Speaker 2: we're almost there, We're almost there. Where do you think
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Speaker 2: we are and what's your level of thought as we
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Speaker 2: take a look at another possible breakthrough.
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Speaker 3: Thanks.
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Speaker 4: So I still think it's probably a two tier negotiation.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I believe the straits are remove. Both sides
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Speaker 4: want the straight of her moves open. The US Navy's
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Speaker 4: blockade is definitely impacting a Ron's ability to.
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Speaker 3: Export its fossil fuels.
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Speaker 4: You know, probably ninety percent of its exports are being
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Speaker 4: shut down, and that's a significant, you know, economic impact,
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Speaker 4: and then we're coursing them economically. Conversely, their blockage of
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Speaker 4: the straights or homoves is impacting our allies and partners
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Speaker 4: right now, not a direct impact on US. I know
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Speaker 4: the gas prices have changed, but in terms of industrial production.
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Speaker 4: But over time, as our partners and allies start to struggle,
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Speaker 4: you know, there are trade partners and will struggle, so
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Speaker 4: we both want to solve that problem.
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Speaker 3: So I really believe that that.
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Speaker 4: One probably gets done first with an agreement to look
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Speaker 4: at the nuclear one and possibly in the first agreement
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Speaker 4: some guideposts for the second agreement, So that might be
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Speaker 4: what Best is referring to is that the MoU will
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Speaker 4: lay out you know, eventually we'll have an agreement on
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Speaker 4: a straits on an opening and the Straits or removes
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Speaker 4: without Iranian control of the Straits are removes and a
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Speaker 4: timeline for a negotiation on their nuclear program.
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Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. And you've
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Speaker 2: described something that will roll out gradually, as most complicated
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Speaker 2: negotiations will do. It is something that's going to require
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Speaker 2: some patients, and yet we've got this ticking political clock
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Speaker 2: of the midterms. President Trump's are't His quote is I
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Speaker 2: don't care about the midterms. What he means by that,
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Speaker 2: I think I can channel Trump is I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to lead a domestic political clock and calendar affect the
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Speaker 2: equality of deal that I try to extract here. What
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Speaker 2: is more important getting this done quickly or getting it
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Speaker 2: done right. It's tough to run a war on the calendar,
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 4: I believe what he was saying was I'm going to
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Speaker 4: be driven, you know, by my own internal clock, which
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Speaker 4: is when if I put enough pressure on the Ranians
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Speaker 4: that I've gotten the best deal I can get. This
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Speaker 4: is a legacy issue for him. If we were to
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Speaker 4: somehow allow Iran to control the Straits or hermoves at
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Speaker 4: the end of this that would be a negative legacy
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Speaker 4: issue if on the other hand, the straights of Hermuves
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Speaker 4: is you know, as it was, you know, a strait
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Speaker 4: that's very close geographic Iran.
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Speaker 3: But the US Navy commainite ain't open when it wants to.
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Speaker 4: And he's you know, significantly changed the status of their
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Speaker 4: nuclear program through these negotiations and the removal any high
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Speaker 4: they enriched uranium. And we've bombed their missile program back.
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Speaker 4: And I get that they still have ballistic missiles, but
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Speaker 4: they now have a fixed number of blistic missiles that
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Speaker 4: goes down every time they.
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Speaker 3: Fire one or we destroy one.
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Speaker 4: Their defense industrial base for building more bilistic missiles is
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Speaker 4: gone Israeli and US Air Forces, US Aviation Forces remove that.
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Speaker 3: So there has.
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Speaker 4: Been a change. Their navy is gone. That's a seven
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Speaker 4: year project to rebuild. If ever, so we have done
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Speaker 4: a lot of damage to Iran. So you have that
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Speaker 4: plus stretch from its being open, plus a meaningful nuclear limitation.
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Speaker 4: Limitation on the Iranian nuclear program. That's a legacy issue
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Speaker 4: that the president can.
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Speaker 2: Fall back on, and I think there's every opportunity for
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Speaker 2: this to go well. It might take a little bit
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Speaker 2: of time, and I pray that it all goes well.
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Speaker 2: Might be the last thing, but with your experience here
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Speaker 2: as a warfighter and knowing what ships are able to do,
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Speaker 2: what missiles are able to do, missile you're thank you,
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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for the reminder that people just
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Speaker 2: seem to constantly need of the degree to which we
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Speaker 2: have degraded Iran's military and reduced their threat level already,
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Speaker 2: that alone has been worth so very much. But is
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Speaker 2: there a way to confirmably get enriched uranium out of
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Speaker 2: Iran without some type of special forces operation?
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Speaker 4: Look, that would be that would be the most confervable way.
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Speaker 4: For whatever reason, we in Israel chose not to do
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Speaker 4: that during the forty days of combat. Where we are
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Speaker 4: right now, I think you get this negotiation. I have
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Speaker 4: to tell you people need to remember, I'm going to
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Speaker 4: stay given. I said before the runnings were on this
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Speaker 4: steep increase in ballistic missiles, so that the point that
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Speaker 4: they were going to be able to hit anywhere in
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Speaker 4: Europe and the United States was not that far off
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Speaker 4: the board. Their nuclear program was moving getting to a
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Speaker 4: position where, depending who you believe, months or weeks, they
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Speaker 4: could do a prompt run for it. They were going
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Speaker 4: to create the distionens where they were going to be
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Speaker 4: another North Korea. Well, we have to accept the fact
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Speaker 4: that they have thirty to fifty nuclear weapons and you know,
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Speaker 4: thirty to fifty ICBMs.
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Speaker 3: That can hit the United States.
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Speaker 4: That's not an acceptable condition for the Isamic Republic of Ron,
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Speaker 4: who has sworn to wipe Israel off the face of
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Speaker 4: the earth and destroy the United States. Action was required,
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Speaker 4: Action was taken. How he extracts us from this, I
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Speaker 4: think will be how he's.
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Speaker 2: Remembered sixty seconds. Since you just invoked the kind of
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Speaker 2: people we're dealing with or trying to deal with, I've
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Speaker 2: said my hope this is not historically clumsy that on
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Speaker 2: its worst day, the Soviet Union at least did not
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Speaker 2: actively want to die. There was something in the Kremlin,
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Speaker 2: and then dealing with China, they don't want to die.
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Speaker 2: These people don't seem to care, and that makes it
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Speaker 2: harder to bargain with them. What is that and the
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Speaker 2: fact that they don't seem to care so much about
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Speaker 2: being economically strangled either. Are we going to have to
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Speaker 2: enact complete regime change and just find more reasonable people
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Speaker 2: to deal with before there's any real progress.
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Speaker 4: Look, and I would appeal to my European friends, as
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Speaker 4: your criticized the United States and Israel, remember who you're
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Speaker 4: siding with here. Effectively, this is a regime that killed
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Speaker 4: thirty two thousand of its own people in thirty six
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Speaker 4: hours a month and a half before we started those strikes.
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Speaker 4: This is a regime the likes of what we haven't
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Speaker 4: seen since Germany in the nineteen forties, that kind of killing.
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Speaker 3: So let's beak.
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Speaker 4: This is an evil, evil regime that terrorized its neighbors,
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Speaker 4: terrorized Israel, and killed a thousand Americans in different conflicts
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Speaker 4: over the last twenty years.
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Speaker 3: The President was right to do what he did.
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Speaker 4: He's got to make sure he gets the final endgame
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Speaker 4: here right. So the patience in discipline he has shown
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Speaker 4: over during this ceasefire is exactly what we need from
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Speaker 4: a leader in this case.
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Speaker 2: I can't think of anybody I'd rather talk to first
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Speaker 2: on this big day of breaking news. Admiral Mark Montgomery
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Speaker 2: at the Foundation for Defensive Democracies.
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Speaker 3: Mark C.
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Speaker 2: Montgomery, the old X on the old Twitter. Thank you, sir,
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Speaker 2: appreciate your service, and U be in here. Well, no, no,
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Speaker 2: you could make a connection to this gentleman with all
19:06
Speaker 2: the writing that he does in National Review. And that's
19:09
Speaker 2: Jim Garrett. Who's here, Jim, welcome. How you doing sir?
19:13
Speaker 5: You know it's been a while, a couple of weeks
19:14
Speaker 5: since I've been on the show. Hugh, you look different.
19:18
Speaker 4: Sorry you.
19:21
Speaker 2: Turned into a paston supporter. How did that happen? I
19:24
Speaker 2: want to I want to get I want to get
19:25
Speaker 2: to that in a minute, because I very much crave
19:28
Speaker 2: your take and I just again, I can't say enough
19:31
Speaker 2: about Hugh as the leadership that he has shown because
19:34
Speaker 2: he was all in for Cornyn and he's one of
19:37
Speaker 2: the first guys out there saying, look, okay, that's in
19:39
Speaker 2: the past. Now we've got a look at the future.
19:41
Speaker 2: It's time to unite and beat James Tallerico that I've
19:43
Speaker 2: got great news. That's exactly what we're going to do,
19:46
Speaker 2: and we'll get to that here in a second. But Jim,
19:48
Speaker 2: let's spend a couple of moments on could there be
19:51
Speaker 2: worst time for Jill Biden's book to come out? I
19:54
Speaker 2: don't know what the level of interest is in reading
19:56
Speaker 2: anything from Jill Biden anyway, even among Democrats, but my gosh,
20:01
Speaker 2: what is your take on this? Divulgence? In the last
20:04
Speaker 2: day or two that in his debate performance where America
20:08
Speaker 2: reared back in shock and said, good lord, is he
20:11
Speaker 2: all right? And then she later said he's fine, Honey,
20:14
Speaker 2: you answered all the questions. He's great. Now. Footage of
20:18
Speaker 2: Jill herself saying I was scared watching him. I was scared.
20:23
Speaker 2: What's your take on all this?
20:26
Speaker 5: So Mark, I thought I had written my last about
20:29
Speaker 5: the Bidens. I thought they were ready to go off
20:31
Speaker 5: into a peaceful and quiet retirement, and that was apparently
20:36
Speaker 5: not to be the case. Both Jill Biden and Joe
20:39
Speaker 5: Biden have book deals. Joe Biden got ten million dollars
20:42
Speaker 5: from his publisher. Joe Biden does and we understand it's
20:45
Speaker 5: still fighting prostate cancer. We haven't heard from the guy
20:47
Speaker 5: in a while, so we hope he's doing well with that.
20:49
Speaker 5: But I wonder if there was some pressure from the
20:51
Speaker 5: publisher that this book has to come out because it's not.
20:54
Speaker 5: Public interest in what Jill Biden has to say isn't
20:57
Speaker 5: going to increase over time. It's going to increase over time.
21:01
Speaker 5: And she does this interview with CBS Sunday Morning where
21:03
Speaker 5: she says she genuinely feared that Joe Biden had had
21:06
Speaker 5: a stroke during the infamous debate in the summer of
21:09
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. In Today's Morning Julten newsletter over at
21:13
Speaker 5: National Review, I wrote bull crap, and I.
21:15
Speaker 6: Could have used other words there.
21:16
Speaker 5: I'm going to try to keep it clean for your program.
21:20
Speaker 5: I felt like Joe peshe in my cousin Vinny. Everything
21:25
Speaker 5: that guy just said is bs Because if you genuinely
21:29
Speaker 5: believe the president of the United States is suffering a stroke,
21:32
Speaker 5: you stop the debate. You don't say, well, let's wait
21:36
Speaker 5: a while and see if things get better. Anybody who's
21:39
Speaker 5: ever suffered a stroke, like American Stroke Association, will tell
21:41
Speaker 5: you every second counts. A stroke is cutting off the
21:44
Speaker 5: blood to the brain. Brain cells die time is brain
21:48
Speaker 5: is one of the sayings in this. So I don't
21:50
Speaker 5: believe her in the slightest. I don't believe she genuinely
21:52
Speaker 5: thought he was having a stroke, because if she was,
21:54
Speaker 5: she would have done it. Let's also recall that there
21:57
Speaker 5: were two commercial breaks during that debate, so it's some point.
22:01
Speaker 5: The president always travels with a full medical staff. God
22:03
Speaker 5: forbid he ever needs some sort of immediate medical attention.
22:06
Speaker 5: They could have gone on. If she said, I'm the
22:08
Speaker 5: first Lady of the United States, I think my husband
22:09
Speaker 5: is having a stroke.
22:11
Speaker 6: You need to check him out, they would go and
22:12
Speaker 6: check him out.
22:13
Speaker 3: Right.
22:13
Speaker 5: It's not like Jake Tapper and Dana Bash were going
22:16
Speaker 5: to say, oh, no, you're not allowed to do that.
22:19
Speaker 5: We have to finish that. She did not believe that
22:21
Speaker 5: he believe that he was having a bad night, and
22:24
Speaker 5: he definitely did. She also claims in the CBS Sunday
22:26
Speaker 5: Morning interview that he had never looked that bad before,
22:30
Speaker 5: and he's never looked that bad since. So Jill Biden
22:33
Speaker 5: wants you to believe that the worst ninety minutes of
22:36
Speaker 5: his life just happened to coincide with the time he
22:39
Speaker 5: was up on national television.
22:42
Speaker 6: With the whole world watching. I do not believe her.
22:45
Speaker 5: I would you can tell like a rant about this
22:48
Speaker 5: quint quest.
22:48
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is great. We need the Joe
22:50
Speaker 2: peshe drop in there because it's completely true and our
22:52
Speaker 2: remaining couple of minutes old to make everybody feel better
22:54
Speaker 2: about the way this worked out. The twenty eight point
22:57
Speaker 2: win by Paxston means that there's there's no longer anything
23:01
Speaker 2: to this narrative that the Attorney General has to be
23:04
Speaker 2: dragged across the finish line for some nail biting victory
23:08
Speaker 2: over Tallarico. Tall Rico is Paxton's best friend. He is
23:11
Speaker 2: a daily quote machine, the belief that Jesus is on
23:14
Speaker 2: board for abortion and transing your kids. No victory is
23:18
Speaker 2: ever easy. Corn would have won, absolutely, But there's something
23:22
Speaker 2: that my state is going to have going for it
23:24
Speaker 2: that it might not have had with Senator Cornyn, God
23:26
Speaker 2: bless him, and that is the fire of conservative passion.
23:30
Speaker 2: It was on display a night before last, and this
23:33
Speaker 2: is something you're going to see every day for the
23:35
Speaker 2: next five months as Paxton goes after Tallarico. Give me
23:38
Speaker 2: your thoughts on how that all worked out and where
23:41
Speaker 2: you think it goes from here.
23:43
Speaker 5: Mark, if your enthusiasm for Paxton is up here, I'm
23:48
Speaker 5: below the screen.
23:49
Speaker 6: I'm significantly lower than that.
23:50
Speaker 5: I'll make an observation to make the Paxton fans feel better.
23:54
Speaker 5: So Yes, in twenty twenty two, last time there was
23:56
Speaker 5: a massive major statewide midterm election in Texas, Yes, Ken
24:01
Speaker 5: Paxton was the lowest vote getter of any Republican running statewide.
24:04
Speaker 5: But I believe he was four point two million or so, right,
24:08
Speaker 5: everybody else four point three million, four point four million,
24:11
Speaker 5: one even hit four point five million like that.
24:13
Speaker 6: On the one hand, that's kind of frustrating.
24:15
Speaker 5: The most any Democrat has gotten in a statewide election
24:18
Speaker 5: in recent years is Beta or work back in twenty eighteen,
24:21
Speaker 5: and he got just barely four million dollars so for four.
24:24
Speaker 6: Million votes votes.
24:25
Speaker 5: So if cal Rico to do, he needs to do
24:27
Speaker 5: better than the best performance of a Democrat in the
24:30
Speaker 5: state of Texas and really the least generation or so.
24:32
Speaker 5: And he needs Paxton to do worse than he did
24:36
Speaker 5: four years ago as the weakest Republican running story.
24:39
Speaker 6: Is that impossible? No, but it's definitely not easy.
24:42
Speaker 5: They're going to hit him on the veganism, They're going
24:44
Speaker 5: to hit him on all of his you know, God
24:46
Speaker 5: has what is he up to?
24:47
Speaker 6: Twenty four genders? It just seems like he goes up every.
24:49
Speaker 2: Time you listen to o'clock.
24:51
Speaker 5: The other thing, I hadn't watched a lot of call
24:53
Speaker 5: Rico until the last couple of weeks.
24:56
Speaker 6: Mark. If you send him to the liquor store or
24:59
Speaker 6: even just the of the nearest.
25:00
Speaker 5: Convenience store in Texas tell him to go buy beer
25:03
Speaker 5: or wine and he does not bring his driver's license?
25:06
Speaker 6: Do you think the clerks will let him go?
25:08
Speaker 5: Haven't you had interns who look older than James Talleric
25:11
Speaker 5: James Tallerico is allegedly thirty seven. The best explanation I
25:15
Speaker 5: can come up with this is that he's got some
25:17
Speaker 5: sort of portrait of a wall that keeps getting older,
25:19
Speaker 5: whereas he continues to look like the intern that your
25:22
Speaker 5: company just hired.
25:23
Speaker 2: I think you framed it exactly well. Listen, there are
25:26
Speaker 2: things you can say about Ken. There's material that Ken
25:28
Speaker 2: provides in anybody's oppo research. But the die is cast.
25:33
Speaker 2: Tallarico is Paxton's best friend. We're going to have a
25:35
Speaker 2: staunch conservative, an admittedly flawed person, aren't we all? And
25:39
Speaker 2: we're going to see how this goes in November and
25:41
Speaker 2: we can track it all the way with a National Review.
25:43
Speaker 2: Senior political correspondent, the Great Jim Garretty, Thank you for
25:46
Speaker 2: all your takes. Jim really appreciated. Not on John birthday.
26:01
Speaker 2: He's eighty one. You're going to get some CCR A
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Speaker 2: little Haye Tonight, nineteen seventy. I'm driving around when I'm
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26:09
Speaker 2: I'm twelve. I'm listening to CCR I called good American
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26:15
Speaker 2: all good American should be doing around. No, I'm getting
26:18
Speaker 2: a big snoopful of Getting Hammered the Wonderful podcast with
26:21
Speaker 2: Mary Catherine hamm and Vic Madis. I've talked to MK
26:24
Speaker 2: on my own show out There in the Wild, and
26:26
Speaker 2: when I fill in for you a lot. What a
26:28
Speaker 2: pleasure to talk to the other guy I'm getting hammered,
26:30
Speaker 2: the guy I love just as much, Vic Matis.
26:32
Speaker 4: Vic.
26:32
Speaker 2: Hello, great to meet you.
26:33
Speaker 7: Hello, Hello Mark, and great to meet you. Great to
26:36
Speaker 7: be on your show today, So thank you for having and.
26:41
Speaker 2: I've always a guest in somebody else. It's great. Yes,
26:45
Speaker 2: I have the reins, I but have the reins for
26:48
Speaker 2: just a moment. Now here's the thing. I'm a loyal
26:50
Speaker 2: Getting Hammered listener, but I did not catch. But my
26:53
Speaker 2: understanding is the most recent episode is you and MK
26:57
Speaker 2: breaking down a couple of things of what happened in
26:59
Speaker 2: my I state. So I've told this audience a little
27:02
Speaker 2: of what I thought about it, the story of where
27:04
Speaker 2: I saw the Paxxton victory coming. I was good with it.
27:08
Speaker 2: I'm very appreciative of the coin and record, but I'm
27:10
Speaker 2: probably part of that Republican wave of Texas. It says,
27:13
Speaker 2: you know, it might be time to turn the page,
27:15
Speaker 2: get rid of the Bill Cassidy's, the Thomas Massey's. Not
27:18
Speaker 2: that Cornyn belongs in that trifecta at all. And I
27:21
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time on my own show here
27:23
Speaker 2: in DFW saying, you know, that a four five six
27:26
Speaker 2: point win, and then the polls came in with like
27:28
Speaker 2: ten points. There was one that showed a twenty point lead.
27:30
Speaker 2: I told my listeners on election day, it's not going
27:33
Speaker 2: to be a twenty point win, and it wasn't. It
27:36
Speaker 2: was closer to thirty. What the heck happened? And what
27:39
Speaker 2: did you guys have to say about it?
27:42
Speaker 7: Yeah?
27:43
Speaker 8: That was actually, you know, legitimately impressive how Ken Paxton
27:46
Speaker 8: pulled this off.
27:47
Speaker 7: He had a very hard time, as you know, and he's.
27:49
Speaker 8: Had a very few rough years and various investigations and
27:52
Speaker 8: had to deal with things like restitution, et cetera. John Cornyon,
27:56
Speaker 8: of course, has been considered to represent the establishment as
28:00
Speaker 8: sort of an old school conservative. Uh, you know old
28:03
Speaker 8: Republican Party, and I think a lot of Texans uh
28:06
Speaker 8: and all those Republics in Texas they go out to
28:08
Speaker 8: vote Mark, they were thinking of the same thing, that
28:11
Speaker 8: it's time to turn a page.
28:13
Speaker 3: Uh.
28:13
Speaker 8: And they felt very comfortable with going with somebody who's
28:15
Speaker 8: going to lean in very hard.
28:17
Speaker 3: Uh.
28:17
Speaker 7: And that would be the Attorney General Ken Paxton. Uh.
28:21
Speaker 7: So that worked out for that worked out for him.
28:24
Speaker 8: It was surprising the numbers, I have to say, But likewise,
28:27
Speaker 8: in the Thomas Massey defeat in Kentucky, the numbers are
28:31
Speaker 8: bigger uh than a lot of the pollsters expected.
28:35
Speaker 3: Uh.
28:35
Speaker 7: And it again is a testament to Donald Trump's staying power,
28:39
Speaker 7: at least for the MAGA base.
28:41
Speaker 4: Uh.
28:41
Speaker 8: We've got a big race coming up now between James
28:45
Speaker 8: tall Rico uh and Ken Paxton in your state of Texas.
28:49
Speaker 7: Uh.
28:50
Speaker 8: And honestly, if you had to ask Democrats or Texas
28:53
Speaker 8: in general, you know, to choose between Tallarico and Beta.
28:59
Speaker 7: O'Rourke, they I think in a heartbeat they would choose Beto.
29:02
Speaker 8: Talla Rico is not exactly you know, this image of
29:06
Speaker 8: a senator from Texas that they would want, not a
29:08
Speaker 8: guy who wanted to go vegan and think CEO God
29:11
Speaker 8: is non binary, and we know that he's dialed back
29:14
Speaker 8: on some of that language, but obviously he's only saying
29:18
Speaker 8: it now because it's been recorded and he's trying to
29:20
Speaker 8: win over those votes, including Cornin voters. But I think
29:24
Speaker 8: the record stands and he's going to get He's already
29:26
Speaker 8: getting pummeled by Paxton's acts.
29:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we got five more months of this,
29:30
Speaker 2: And you're right about invoking memories of Beto, which still
29:33
Speaker 2: makes Democrats' hearts go a flutter because that was twenty
29:36
Speaker 2: eighteen when he came within two and a half points
29:38
Speaker 2: of Ted Cruz. But listen, I'll come even more into
29:41
Speaker 2: the modern day. I think there's some buyers remorse among
29:43
Speaker 2: Texas Democrats. I think they now recognize in the rear
29:46
Speaker 2: room mirror that Jasmine Crockett herself a fire hose of
29:50
Speaker 2: material for conservative media. But nonetheless, Jasmine Crockett would have
29:54
Speaker 2: been a stronger candidate. I think, So, what do you think?
29:57
Speaker 8: Well, I think it certainly would have been very u
30:00
Speaker 8: a much more interesting and fiery race. She would have
30:03
Speaker 8: had a lot more fundraising power, probably more obviously outside
30:07
Speaker 8: of the state of Texas and but she was she
30:10
Speaker 8: knew how to make it in the news. Let's I'll
30:11
Speaker 8: put it to you that way. And she was always
30:13
Speaker 8: a headline grabber. And there are still you know, scars
30:18
Speaker 8: from that primary loss with Jasmine Crockett. In fact, there
30:23
Speaker 8: was another Texas Democratic uh you know house race that
30:27
Speaker 8: was going on primary and she was supporting one one
30:31
Speaker 8: candidate in tall Rico.
30:32
Speaker 7: I think it was the other.
30:33
Speaker 8: I think she was supporting Colin all Read and that
30:35
Speaker 8: fell apart, uh for her. So, I mean, these battles
30:39
Speaker 8: are continuing. There's a lot of internal grumbling going on.
30:41
Speaker 8: The question is you know which side, which party is
30:44
Speaker 8: going to be able to you know, put all their
30:47
Speaker 8: differences aside and move forward and say we got to
30:50
Speaker 8: win this thing.
30:51
Speaker 7: And right now I think that Paxton.
30:53
Speaker 8: I mean, it's got a lot of work to do,
30:55
Speaker 8: but I think he could probably still pull it off.
30:57
Speaker 8: I think it's going to be close, closer, but I
31:00
Speaker 8: still think that he Texans don't exactly want James Tellergo.
31:04
Speaker 2: This is not the kind of guy that you offer
31:06
Speaker 2: up in my state of Texas. Colin Allred, who was
31:08
Speaker 2: an actual athlete and actually presents, you know something resembling
31:12
Speaker 2: masculinity got drilled pretty well by Ted Cruz just two
31:15
Speaker 2: short years ago. Let's leave my state of Texas and
31:18
Speaker 2: go to an earlier episode of Getting Hammered. It was
31:20
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago. A few weeks ago,
31:21
Speaker 2: you were talking about Graham Plattner, and listen, the Paxston
31:24
Speaker 2: story involves asking people to think about redemption, think about
31:28
Speaker 2: people who have had some things in their past that
31:30
Speaker 2: they try to grow and learn and progress from. I
31:33
Speaker 2: am filled with a certain attitude that says, you know,
31:36
Speaker 2: every saint has a past, every sinner has a future.
31:39
Speaker 2: But man, what are we to make of Platner and
31:42
Speaker 2: Maine and the Nazi tattoo and some of the old posts.
31:45
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the bottom line on this guy?
31:49
Speaker 8: Well, the bottom line is he's against Trump, and so
31:51
Speaker 8: we need to support the guy because he's.
31:53
Speaker 7: Against Trump, and it's all about this winning thing.
31:55
Speaker 8: I mean, they're going to be stuck with him as
31:57
Speaker 8: their Democratic nominee right going into the general against Susan
32:00
Speaker 8: Collins in Maine.
32:01
Speaker 7: They have no choice. They need to try to defeat Maine.
32:04
Speaker 8: It was hopefully one of their pickup states that that's
32:07
Speaker 8: not really happening. I'm going to be very interested in
32:09
Speaker 8: Mark and seeing some of the more current polls are
32:12
Speaker 8: going to be coming out soon regarding how Plattner is
32:15
Speaker 8: going to be sizing up against Susan Collins, especially once
32:18
Speaker 8: Republicans start to ramp up those ads, and just basically
32:22
Speaker 8: Graham Plattner in his own words, we've seen it already
32:26
Speaker 8: the Reddit threads. And here's the thing, Mark, this isn't
32:29
Speaker 8: something that happened a very long time ago. And then
32:32
Speaker 8: he you know, went back against it, and then he's
32:36
Speaker 8: denounced what he had said a long time ago, the deletions,
32:41
Speaker 8: the changing of his tattoo, that was all in the
32:43
Speaker 8: run up. Really, let's be honest here to his contemplating
32:46
Speaker 8: running for senate for Senate against Susan Collins. And so
32:51
Speaker 8: I just don't think that the conversion, in my opinion,
32:55
Speaker 8: is genuine. If you ask Elizabeth Warren, for example, hard
32:59
Speaker 8: to believe that she's going to support the guy with
33:01
Speaker 8: the Nazi tattoo, and she says, well, it's really about
33:03
Speaker 8: his actions more than his more than his tattoos. There's
33:07
Speaker 8: no way they would have given a republic in a
33:09
Speaker 8: pass like that. You know, he's changed, He's a different man.
33:11
Speaker 8: There's no way.
33:14
Speaker 2: That is correct. A shocking to learn there may be
33:16
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Speaker 2: thank you very very much appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: It's not just Gladys Knight's birthday and John Fogerty's birthday.
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Speaker 2: It's also this week, this month is the fiftieth anniversary
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Speaker 2: is some of the greatest albums ever from my childhood
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Speaker 2: and America's history, including Todd Rundren's Faithful There's a little
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Speaker 2: love of the common Man, all right, here's an uncommon
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Speaker 2: man in terms of whom to follow in the world
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Speaker 2: of social media and writing and such, not just for
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Speaker 2: matters of the Middle East and the anti Semitism beat.
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Speaker 2: Even though it is the Jewish Insider where you find him.
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Speaker 2: But it's a great Josh Cross. Let's check on a
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Speaker 2: couple of things in the world of current events. Josh, welcome,
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Speaker 2: how you doing, sir.
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Speaker 9: Mark, good to be back with you. You have great
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Speaker 9: musical tastes. So I enjoyed the lead.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank Yeah. Well it's great to be coming
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Speaker 2: up a little later on also fiftieth anniversary or the
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Speaker 2: Lease of Royal Scam by Steely Dan. So everybody get
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Speaker 2: ready for that. Just get ready for that. All right.
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Speaker 2: Let me ask about your level of I mean optimism, expectations.
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Speaker 2: And I know that the Trump negotiating style is everything's
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Speaker 2: going great, things are going our way. It's to exude
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Speaker 2: positivity and high expectations. That makes some sense, It makes
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Speaker 2: a negotiating sense. It can be a little frustrating. I've
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Speaker 2: had somebody who's a Trump fan tell me on my
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Speaker 2: own show it's almost like the Boy who Cried Wolf.
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Speaker 2: If you tell me ten times that were on the
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Speaker 2: verge of a deal and it just doesn't happen, It's like,
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Speaker 2: how many times do I come back? So what's your
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Speaker 2: level of appreciation for today's news and the possibility of
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Speaker 2: some Memorandum of Understanding.
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Speaker 9: I feel like every day is groundhog Day, where it
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Speaker 9: feels like it's been a few weeks now, where we
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Speaker 9: have news of a deal that's just about to be consummated,
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Speaker 9: and yet the challenge is selling it to the American public,
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Speaker 9: selling it to the Republican Party. Now, the outlines of
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Speaker 9: what we're hearing now seemed to suggest that this would
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Speaker 9: be sort of the sixty day kind of negotiating period
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Speaker 9: and there wouldn't be any real major concessions, and then
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Speaker 9: the big, big goal from the US side would be
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Speaker 9: to get a RAN to open up the straight up
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Speaker 9: hour moves and then we can see where things go
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Speaker 9: from there. So if that's the case, that that sounds
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Speaker 9: more favorable of a D than what we heard over
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Speaker 9: the weekend the memorial they weekend where they were there
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Speaker 9: was talk of releasing funds, ending sanctions against Iran, giving
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Speaker 9: them a lot of benefits without them doing anything tangible
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Speaker 9: to crack down on their ballistic missiles and give up
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Speaker 9: their their their nuclear material. But this seems like a
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Speaker 9: more of an interim deal based on the early reporting,
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Speaker 9: and and look I cautioned that Trump hasn't agreed to it.
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Speaker 9: The Iranians, to my knowledge, have not agreed to this.
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Speaker 9: So these are outlines that have been discussed diplomatically between
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Speaker 9: both sides. But I've heard this before and I'll believe
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Speaker 9: it when I see it.
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Speaker 2: Mark, I believe that's exactly it. And that's not skepticism.
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Speaker 2: It's not standoffishness, certainly not on my part. I certainly
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Speaker 2: don't read that from you. It's like, Okay, this is good.
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Speaker 2: Where there have been smatterings of good things in the past,
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Speaker 2: let me know when the really good thing happens. And
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Speaker 2: even that's not going to offer the promise that anything that.
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Speaker 2: Let's say that and that's all the signatures are dry
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Speaker 2: within the next couple of weeks. That doesn't mean that
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Speaker 2: the iotolers are going to a ey'd by them as
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Speaker 2: as July turns into August.
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Speaker 9: No, I mean, I mean trust but verify, was the
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Speaker 9: line from Ronald Reagan. I think you almost have to
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Speaker 9: distrust almost anything coming out of the Iranian negotiators' mouths.
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Speaker 9: And one of the challenges with this type of negotiation
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Speaker 9: is ran could promise to do things down the road
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Speaker 9: that sound good, but their track record of actually delivering
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Speaker 9: and actually making the necessary compromises and concessions that would
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Speaker 9: make this a good deal have never transpired.
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Speaker 7: So I think, you know, you.
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Speaker 9: Gotta for the US to really strike a good deal,
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Speaker 9: it's going to involve immediate concessions. I ran opening up
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Speaker 9: the straight of Horn moves, giving up its nuclear material,
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Speaker 9: and then the US can actually talk about what they
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Speaker 9: would give in return. But the notion of front loading
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Speaker 9: the concessions just in hopes that Iran is going to
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Speaker 9: abide by by the deal and open up the straight
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Speaker 9: and actually cooperate with the nuclear nuclear negotiating negotias over
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Speaker 9: its nuclear material and program. I think that's wishful thinking,
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Speaker 9: and that's why a lot of Republicans have been very
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Speaker 9: skeptical about some of the leaks and outlines that have
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Speaker 9: emerged in last month or so.
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Speaker 2: Let's stay global with a slightly different tone. You noted
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Speaker 2: something that I did too, a piece by Mary Margaret
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Speaker 2: Olahan and Daily Wire, that the State Department's going to
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Speaker 2: organize a global push against the rise of far left terror.
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Speaker 2: Lord knows, we've talked about that a lot in America.
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Speaker 2: You've written and spoken a lot about it. I have too.
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Speaker 2: There's apparently some workshop coming in Europe this week and
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Speaker 2: in a higher level conference in DC this summer, the
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Speaker 2: workshop bringing together officials from all over Europe. I hear
41:34
Speaker 2: often it's kind of glib. It's not your father's, your
41:37
Speaker 2: grandfather's Europe. The great joy of going to Israel and
41:42
Speaker 2: going to one of the absorption centers where people have
41:44
Speaker 2: made the Aliah journey. And I remember this young couple
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Speaker 2: from France. They said they were the shopkeepers in Paris,
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Speaker 2: and they said we had and this was two thousand
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Speaker 2: and three and they said we had to get out
41:55
Speaker 2: of Paris, Paris for fear of anti Semitic island. So
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Speaker 2: which way is this going? There's certainly a lot of
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Speaker 2: more attention to it. I hope that attention turns toward
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Speaker 2: real recognition of the problem we have across the globe.
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Speaker 9: It's hard to describe just how much Jewish communities in Europe,
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Speaker 9: which are small to begin with, certainly, I mean France
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Speaker 9: and Europe have sizable communities in certain certain parts of
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Speaker 9: the country. But it's stunning how under siege they feel.
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Speaker 9: The synagogues are. You have to deal with massive security protections,
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Speaker 9: Jewish days, schools under massive security protection on the weekend
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Speaker 9: in London, if you ride the subway, you'll probably encounter
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Speaker 9: a massive rally that's an Islamist rally against Israel and
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Speaker 9: featuring all elements of anti Semitic slogans and extremist rhetoric
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Speaker 9: that you never would imagine in your tenure years fifteen
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Speaker 9: to twenty years ago at least, And it's become systemic
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Speaker 9: in many of these countries. In fact, you know, the
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Speaker 9: US has had its issues and anti Semitism has been
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Speaker 9: on the rise here since October seventh, but it's nothing
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Speaker 9: like what Europe is experiencing in the Jewish communities. Even
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Speaker 9: in Canada. Mark the Canadian degree of like the violence,
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Speaker 9: vandalism and and just harassment that that Jews in Canada
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Speaker 9: feels is sort of just remarkable, knowing the history of
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Speaker 9: that country. So it is a scourge that you know,
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Speaker 9: I always hate to kind of put it on one
43:23
Speaker 9: side or another. We're seeing anti Semitism from all corners,
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Speaker 9: you know, Islamists left right, really seeing hitting levels that
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Speaker 9: I never would have imagined in my lifetime. But in
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Speaker 9: Europe it's really the epicenter of the problem and the tolerance, frankly,
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Speaker 9: of the kind of radicalism and extremism that I never
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Speaker 9: would have imagined, certainly not not not in the modern
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Speaker 9: twenty first century.
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Speaker 2: Well attention paid to it is one of the most
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Speaker 2: noble things that can be done. Jewish Insider does it.
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Speaker 2: Josh Krashwer does it. Josh. Great to be with you
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Speaker 2: and thank you so very very much, Josh Krasher. Check
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