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Not Your Average Podcast In the 716 "Training Camp Series" · Built In Buffalo Podcast Network

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have stairs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm muted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is hot upstairs and it's added.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my computer is at the phone key.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I apologize again, hopefully you could see the intro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, the intro, yes, will be leaf, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what's up, y'all?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not your ours podcast in the San Juan Six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your girl T and I got some special guests with me tonight y'all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know y'all don't these two fellas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know Bill's mafia, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just gonna let them introduce themselves and I am so happy that they're on the show tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, introduce yourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so we are bills United podcasts my age be a long side my boy AI You can follow us on Instagram Buffalo United podcasts or bills United podcasts along with Twitter and Instagram Facebook you find this bus United podcasts Yeah, you want to say anything else brother
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say, but not all of you that also follow us on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been using that podcast, but hey man, make sure you go over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You leave a like and you subscribe to the channel and click that notification button because no, we go live every Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We go like every Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So tune in man, I appreciate it.
1:20
[SPEAKER_02]: You been doing y'all been doing the double takes like y'all doing two days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's precious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a nice thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When people are me and Mike used to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when we first started, we went year round off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was no off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we build up, you know, our listeners, whatever this year was the first year that we kind of took off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We stepped back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That case is we was just like, and we burned down a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I like let's just take a little time off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the week that, but I feel y'all, you got to, you got to go hard.
1:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, everybody else is sleeping.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be grinding, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to make that brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to make that brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like what you guys are doing over there and keep up the good work because we see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thank you again for coming on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I truly truly appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The off season is finally over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's training campus here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Day one was today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we get into the training camp, there was some news that came out with Lyndon Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, it came out and went to bed and now he's practicing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a nothing burger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was on the PUP and now he's listed as being a training camp where you guys at all worried about him.
2:44
[SPEAKER_02]: No Ken was, you want to start that off, Ken?
2:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the foremost, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just in case I don't know, Land of Jackson was my favorite pick throughout the draft this year.
2:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So the reason why I was worried because when I once he got hurt, you know, I did my little digging.
2:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So I did my little digging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in high school, he had two ACOs injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And college, he also had another ACO injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, three ACO injuries are raining.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On top of that, now he has a neck injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's already injury prone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so before they cleared him today, I was worried because I'm like, I don't know if we just curse or we just love entry-prong players because that's not just seem like the path we've been going now lately, especially when it comes to even picking up players from free agency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my, so my opinion, I was very concerned because I need my boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have big hopes for him and I think he's a certified closer once you actually get him an opportunity and that's what I see from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was concerned that first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like I like the depth that that we have on defensive lines is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as far as like concerns with how who's going to pick up the slack and how we're going to fall off for keep ourselves steady.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really wasn't that worried from a team perspective from a individual perspective yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I both share that same sentiment?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're still worried, but you know, as far as the team aspect of it, I really wasn't worried all that much now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So another person popped up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: was, Dion, no, not Dion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, please, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dawson Knox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dawson Knox, Spencer Brown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dawson Knox with a hamstring and Spencer Brown with his back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for me, it was more of Spencer Brown because Spencer Brown is coming off a really good season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we need that guy opposite of Dion Dawkins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How concerned were you guys about these two guys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want you want me to go first or you want you got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right brother.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as far as like back flare ups and everything for a guy to six seven three hundred.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a bit concerning more and more because he's facing you know He's facing guys that are coming straight at him and it's not something where he gets much rest a lot of the times where they're doing run place He does have to go for the guy and actually impact block instead of the guy coming at him
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that that plays a lot of a factor in him resting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have concerns as much as, again, I don't because the depth that we have at offensive line gives me that kind of comfort where I can sit back and say, OK, who else is going to step up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I'm a big believer in Aaron Crowmer in that offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way he's been coaching the last couple of years, I mean, phenomenal, phenomenal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the best offensive lines in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been saying this is last season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that there's no drop-off really when it comes to anybody on this offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see how I feel about Spencer Brown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm a little concerned and the reason I'm concerned because he has a big a big history of back problems ever since we drafted him and prior to the draft and for example right when he was hurt like me was playing my believe his rookie season he didn't do well
6:05
[SPEAKER_01]: We was about to get rid of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We was all, and all the bills went on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needed to go, because he had that back injury in it, and it affected his play in such a poorly way to where we didn't know that he was even capable when he was doing last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, he threw us for a surprise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on a certain day, like, I'll see why we kind of bubble wrap him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really think it's as bad as we think it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they bubble wrap him right now, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think he will be healthy by the time the season start, but is it a concern?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's surely for every bill's friendship because
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a precaution.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess more or less for for him.
6:39
[SPEAKER_02]: When it comes to also, um, deandoc, not deandoc.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why do I keep saying deandoc?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, not docenax, docenax.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like docenax in this hamstring is seems like he's having like a little history of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know they signed some tight ends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they got the, uh, the guy out of the draft for God's name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hawks or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a block in Titan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got, he got some refs today because of not stopped being in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's early for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get me an August, the beginning of August, the middle of August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If these guys are still this way, then I'm a little concerned because September's like right around the corner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the first day of training camp, I'm like, I'm, I'm giving people a pass until August.
7:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, speaking of training camps and things that started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some stories coming out of there today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had on the doctor today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tray White.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Tray White at training camp today, looking like, Oh, train.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, train day apparently he was running with the ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was going to ask these guys if this man still had some, some, some things left in his tank and apparently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tray is out here running with the ones, which
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give me your thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you take that one first?
8:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, listen man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One and foremost man, Kudos to Tray right because last year he went on two different teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My boy was fighting for his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was fighting to get back over here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He clearly did his job because he he's back in Buffalo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so so one and foremost number two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks sharp man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He does right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even his hit move now thought he lost the step, but I guess no homecoming back home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We brought that life back into him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got that energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got that dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even on a few reps he locked down the key on home in that Elijah Moore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was literally burning all whole entire defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Trey White was the only one who actually sounds him on two plays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's a big sign right here and even even a Christian Biff on a boy couldn't hang up because due to a speed of his route running.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So trade white A man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got more than left in his tank.
8:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm excited to see it, but I will say this though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we gonna get to Bob will say this, but I don't think I won't be to start it.
9:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say that for a little bit after the show.
9:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.
9:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I like what I see from tray as much as I think that it's more he's comfortable where he's at now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not battling any more injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He still was top rank when he was with the Raven statistically and even in the playoff game he was the best corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still feel like he still has something left to prove.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's out for another big contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he wants to stay in Buffalo for a long run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's wanted to take a cut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those guys that I'm very confident in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that he stepped in where he left off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at the other hatch, you know, like so now he's already at his comfort zone.
9:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's with the same coaches that he was with before with Bobby Babbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have the new wrinkles coming in with Mike Peligrino, which we talked about on our podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's gonna, it's gonna do nothing but enhances play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a man to man corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He does play really good on in the zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I feel like he's one of those vets that is able to play in multiple schemes, just like he was playing man when he was with the LA Rams.
10:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And even though he played decent there, he was still battling some injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now that we're seeing a healthy trait, I'm not surprised at the gameplay that he's doing right now.
10:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he keeps it up, I don't see him, I don't see him losing that starting spot.
10:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he two, two years removed from his injury?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is that a year?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he played a year after he got traded to the Rans and then the same season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second season around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got traded to the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And see what the two years do from your body and your mental state.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And not even that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, I forgot who it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was talking to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he said, he's home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trey, this is Trey's mental was screwed up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He told his agent, if it's not Buffalo, I'm not going nowhere else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Buffalo or no one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now he's back home and he, you can see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can, you, the film, the videos that you see us out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trey looks really, really good.
11:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He looks good.
11:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm happy for him because like you alluded to.
11:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt Max, is he stepping on in there?
11:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want him to step in there?
11:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it okay for trade to step in there as a starter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you, would you, would you think is right?
11:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I want to start this off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
11:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to start this one on here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so, hey, let's put me close the off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to step in, but he's going to be stepping to the side.
11:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now let me tell you why, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one Maxwell, he missed OTAs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he has to catch up on reps already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll tell you why, he's already good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he has to catch up on reps, not only that he's still learning the system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now number two, you have to think about it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I want him to step in because for example,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, according to the backs in our pants, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say tray white is the starter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I do when I'm start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, say tray white is the starter and something happens on God forbid, during man's season, during late season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be our first time actually seeing Maxwell on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to expect from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I will read them and have them start and go against, uh, go against the object Hopkins, go against the step on digs, put them against a boring, you know, put them against good receivers because we plan a lot of good receivers during the first half of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me, let me step you there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The first game against the Ravens, who do you want to start?
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[SPEAKER_01]: First game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game against the Ravens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise otherwise we might tread in the future.
12:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something to happen to Mike.
12:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's mom.
12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You look like you're, you're not, you're not with this.
12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: H-B, you know?
12:55
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
12:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, man, I just think, I think through history, I think that trade gets a nod.
13:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've seen a lot where Sean McDermott has a taste to play young players on a very complicated defense and he slowly brings them in and he gives them like little jobs so that way they're comfortable getting on the field.
13:13
[SPEAKER_00]: The number one thing on defense is that you have to be reliable and that you have to communicate well, especially at defensive back on this team because they play most nickels and like DBs.
13:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a nickel defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to be you have to be very communicative.
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[SPEAKER_00]: especially back there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for corners outside corners, now like to runs out to where he's more inside, outside corners more specifically because they're sharing the job with safety's on a nickel defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes it looks like he's playing man to man and then the safety's actually the one checking
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's the one checking the flats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very high communication type defense.
13:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Mad Max is capable of it.
13:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in them.
13:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that do the history and the way to talk about trade and training camp.
13:59
[SPEAKER_00]: If he keeps that up and he bars any injury, I see you trade going week one.
14:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, listen, iron shopping is iron.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All they're going to do is make each other better.
14:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So if he earns that,
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[SPEAKER_02]: rookie earns that he earns it.
14:13
[SPEAKER_02]: If not, you know, you still got that that tray back there that knows the defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't even have to worry about trade, not knowing like Matt Mech's dope.
14:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't really know, you know what I'm saying?
14:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Trey knows it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The back of his hand.
14:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a coach doing worry about it.
14:28
[SPEAKER_02]: So I get it.
14:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a great problem to have.
14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, I'll see, it's really hard for me to see.
14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't mention Maxwell especially because we pay him.
14:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting paid more to trade by.
14:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, one thing about franchise is they're going to pay you big on plate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the guy and only that everybody want to see him and then my thing is this is why I say throw mine week one because everybody know week one doesn't mean anything in the lead to any team doesn't mean anything to the bills doesn't mean anything to the chiefs regardless if you want to lose it's not going to it's not going to dictate or play off see them is not going to none of that so my opinion to me it's pretty much like a skirmish for guys we're going to lose I'm not going to be mad because it's going to be good and it's going to be bad all it's going to be it's a lot
15:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And for me, it's a lot of bragging rights for fan bases.
15:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I get listen, players want to win regardless of whatever.
15:21
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
15:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They want to win.
15:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They want to beat the race.
15:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure the Ravens want to beat the bills from the playoffs.
15:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was like the regular season they beat as they dogged the hell out of the bills.
15:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They ran the ball.
15:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
15:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I don't complain.
15:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the dead story.
15:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather I would rather have them run the ball.
15:43
[SPEAKER_00]: All game and show no take because you know you're going to run into the team again.
15:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
15:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know you're going to run into the team again.
15:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So so go ahead.
15:50
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to win week one and that's your number one mission.
15:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your get back.
15:52
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
15:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your get back.
15:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
15:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a different Buffaloville team you stepping up to.
15:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
15:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially if you're healthy if they're healthy.
16:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And speak enough health.
16:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Joey Bosa.
16:05
[SPEAKER_02]: The calf injury is okay.
16:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He stated that this, I don't think that players understand the Buffalo Bill's culture.
16:16
[SPEAKER_02]: People think it's just a phase.
16:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like people think it's, oh, it's not really what it is.
16:22
[SPEAKER_02]: When you hang out with the guys, you become a family, and that's what Joey Joey said.
16:26
[SPEAKER_02]: He hung out with these guys more than he hung out with the other guys from nine years.
16:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You played in Cali with the chargers for nine years, and you really didn't hang out with your brothers, their players.
16:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You have more with the buffalo bills.
16:43
[SPEAKER_02]: What did I say about the culture and the buffalo bills?
16:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And what does I say about this organization?
16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But before that, Joey Bosa is healthy right now.
16:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That healthy joy Bosa could be, can make a difference in this defense.
16:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me your thoughts.
17:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the resurrection of a guy like Aaron Schobel on this defense a veteran guy can get you ten sex and and he gives me a lot of that a lot of those vibes I think that a guy like I said yesterday on on our podcast a guy to get turning on and off
17:18
[SPEAKER_00]: barring injury, I just think that even when he comes back from any injury, he could still give you two sacks like the first game off injury.
17:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's he's so talented of a defensive end, just like his brother Nick in San Francisco.
17:31
[SPEAKER_00]: It just, he's one of those guys you can use sparingly in the regular season and then gets it a playoff and then you can just play a mating percentage of snaps with Gregory.
17:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would love to see that.
17:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully get us a second contract with him, but I don't see that happening just seeing how we've moved all these guys, you know, like with Len and Jackson being at the helm, you know, right right behind them as the years go.
17:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You got AJP and that's the still that he's still, you know, he's on a two year extension.
18:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I got my kids over here on the side.
18:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you good.
18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm with you.
18:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
18:11
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope from I think Joey gets my first high percentage of the snaps of his healthy.
18:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see.
18:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what he got.
18:22
[SPEAKER_01]: One in foremost, the culture is different.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Because no, a lot of players always be like, why go to Buffalo?
18:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing there.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cold.
18:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But every time a player come here, they don't ever want to leave.
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And that just goes to show you something right there.
18:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And Joey goes, say, I hung out with these past six weeks and I gave my whole, my whole, a teen year at San Diego charges.
18:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was one thing that we all know, Josh Allen, and his offense always preach.
18:45
[SPEAKER_01]: What does team always preach?
18:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Carabody man.
18:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Be Bill friendships.
18:50
[SPEAKER_01]: be close so we actually play for each other.
18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually got something to play for now.
18:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only do we have to play for teammates that actually have a bound for or bound with, he actually have to play for Super.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually have a chance for the first time in his career to have it to be on a contender that can get you to the Super Bowl.
19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's great.
19:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew, why?
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: He said he's good, but I didn't watch any of you, but this is the catch.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He said usually he feel good every off season.
19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He said he'd body'd be perfectly fine, and then somehow somewhere he always get hurt.
19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, he was like, I told the bills about this before before they, before they signed me.
19:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, I feel good, but I say this year running year row and I still always end up getting hurt.
19:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So he said he's healthy, but with that remark right there, he then sound confident that he could possibly stay healthy.
19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he might be on a rep count.
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he on a rep count?
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He is.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to bring that up.
19:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to bring that up.
19:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's on a rep count, but not like that.
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Comprehensive and send the ego when he was playing eighty eighty eighty eighty eighty six percent of the steps.
19:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably he's not going to play half a day here.
19:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to be, so he's not going to put him night even nearly half of the work or rest that he did there.
19:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can see him being healthy, especially when Michael and Larry come back at the week six.
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
20:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, also do they, remember they did, they did bond.
20:06
[SPEAKER_02]: They did that he was only on there.
20:09
[SPEAKER_02]: What third downs I want to say, yeah, bond was in there.
20:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe he'll, maybe it'll be like a bond thing.
20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I only need you for the playoffs, buddy.
20:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay healthy for the playoffs, okay?
20:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:26
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:27
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He's comfortable with his hands.
20:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I don't know, maybe six games or six seventh game, whatever after the buy, you good?
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, play up play them again.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Then down the stretch, I mean, play them periodically, whatever, and but for the playoffs, oh, I need you.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I need your body in there.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You will be at eighty percent of the time.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you want to know like what the difference was between Vaughan and Joey Bosa coming in for the bills.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there attitudes?
21:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there attitudes?
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughan Miller came on a mission to be the first player with three suit ball rings with three different teams.
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: First play to ever do it.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't happen.
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: He came back forces played a year prior.
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: New he was taking reps out of certain players like Kavassalman and AJ Fanesa that were balling that year.
21:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And he knew that in damage to team in that same year.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the following year, New he was too old to damn play.
21:28
[SPEAKER_00]: and knew he didn't have his legs under him and then still did that.
21:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't see that with Joey Bosa.
21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if he plays fire, just out of the gate, I see him staying on the field.
21:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you going to take something as hot?
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Take it out.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm keeping a margin.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine everyone would have sat and Solomon would have been in there.
21:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I would like about six sex.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like him.
21:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
21:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see what his jump will be this season.
21:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see in the precies and hopefully he gets enough snaps.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And real quick, we were on the landing Jackson thing.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Will he ever change his number to number forty for the bills?
22:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you will fire in number forty for the bills.
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: What is he right now?
22:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He's number ninety four.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Mario wins old number.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think number forty for him will.
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
22:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
22:23
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, that's forty right now.
22:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I?
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that after preseason he might he might think about changing that number.
22:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I just found out today the reason why Bernard changes number is because of Colby.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
22:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I see man.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I found that out today.
22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, you better play like Toby.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I know.
22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
22:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know him and freaking Matt Milano.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to own Matt Milano back.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
22:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to own the thing.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: What a more Matt Milano.
22:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Please stand up.
22:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you both.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Please stand up.
23:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of some of our guys and Bishop tomorrow.
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: What's one do you want?
23:10
[SPEAKER_00]: you want to take that or you want me to take it.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you, you take it.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to call for you.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to just, this is one of my wild predictions.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Be it as it may.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Be it as it may.
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: The more Hamlin, third in the team, it's tackles.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the more handling takes a spot.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I take the more handling.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and the reason why I say that is because year after year, he has been battling that, you know, that whole debacle where you will die in the field.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He died on the field and then he came back resurrected the whole night.
23:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that that happened, right?
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the year after that, he pretty much didn't play at all.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He was one of those charity cases you keep on the bench doing the hearts and all that stuff.
23:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And we wasn't for that.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We call that the Hamlin touch around here.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: If you touch him, you get hurt.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, touch his head.
24:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts doing gang signs and a floor.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have that.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he comes in next year and then it's starting to team in tackles.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And can be in one of the longest tenure players that Sean McDermott has.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think just for security purposes, he takes it.
24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But if Cole Bishop is to play exceptional, I think Cole can, Cole can sweep it under him.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I think I'm going with the model for comfort.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, sir.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even from the play with this topic.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if Cole Bishop played exceptional and not.
24:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Cole Bishop is going to take that spot on his head.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to take me.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to take it.
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he don't have to take it.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: He already got it.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He already got it.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He already got it.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: because like not for example right let's be honest like the maria he led the team for a third in tacos right for one we see a lot of that play from the mar him last year when it comes to coverage coal bishop is was one of the best cover uh... coverage uh... say these in college last year we came on is a rookie so that right there that's already going to make up a big uh... a big gap of what we struggle it last year messing with the mar but only that let's be honest even though he led the team in tacos
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The Marham would take terrible angles at the worst times.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's be honest, I mean, you may you watch these games together.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, what is this man doing?
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You are too slow to be taking a wrong angle.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's something he struggled with throughout the season.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't see that coming for a cold bishop, but not only that, we have already seen the Marham win silly.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most, that's the most, he's, he's the average safety at best.
25:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's pretend that that's pretend I mean donkey when I say this, but this dude is little too light and ass.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: to be out here, tackling people.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that he's better off teaching Derek Ford how to play before his years up and then he goes play for Pittsburgh.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's the whole other thing that people are saying that there are evidence should have been playing for Pittsburgh since last year.
26:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, oh, you know, maybe this is the opportunity where after the preseason, he gets traded to Pittsburgh, because that's his hometown, the whole night, played and picked.
26:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And he has like the whole P, you know, Tadron is next the whole night.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little disrespectful to not put Derek force in the conversation.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: No, for sure.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: My bad.
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
26:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's cool, but he's going to be the Taylor rap project.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to, before the more him and leaves, I'm going to make sure that Derek force knows his entire defense up and down.
26:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to leave.
26:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to do my new diligence.
26:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to a team where I want to go.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking Pittsburgh.
26:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Derek force and Cole Bishop are going to be the two guys there for the future.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I do like I like the signing of the Derek force.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I do as he's hard hitting apparently and a lot of Washington fans were upset that they let him go because it was a coaching change and they I guess they just didn't see him in there and in their future and when they picked him up, I went back and watched him tape and I was like, Oh, shoot.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so, it's been tied.
27:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's a thump.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so you're right.
27:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a wrap wrap for sure.
27:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, this was don't mean to disrespect him.
27:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just saying coal and um, tomorrow, but he's absolutely in the running for this for sure because he might shoot required on us.
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be the starter.
27:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows?
27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: In Bishop is not careful.
27:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be sitting, too.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and seeing how in the OTAs, how they were already hampering each other on the sidelines, both the Mark and Cole Bishop with injuries.
27:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a minor technique.
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I just seem Derek force being the guy that people are like sleeping on just because he's a new accessory to this defense that is just learning.
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So if he has to step up, I can see a bit of a learning curve going there.
27:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm very comfortable with deciding and I think that I mean just like my buddy John was talking about maybe a guy like Ron Rivera You know how to conversation with Sean McDermott on the side and say hey, this guy is worth picking up on his team especially for a defense like yours So I'm gonna skip the P on Coleman and Josh Allen, but I'm gonna go back to it
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So, hard knocks, we all know, is following the Buffalo Bills in the preseason.
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know what stories they're going to follow, but one in particular might be one of the main conversations and main storylines.
28:39
[SPEAKER_02]: James Cook, James Cook reported to camp, training camp, no holdout, no holdin'.
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was saying, this, that, method.
28:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He told you, he's about his money.
28:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want nobody to take his money, he's about his money.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: It's brother's talk and his agent talk and James is, and I don't even know if we know for sure if his James tweeting it, texting it or doing whatever.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We all know James could don't really talk.
29:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when it came out that he was talking, we were all surprised.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see conversation happening and Brennan said there were conversations happening?
29:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see an extension happening on this training camp during the training camp?
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see that happen under only two things happen.
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They will have to restructure thoughts and knocks, and they will have to restructure the endokins.
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's no other way, there's no other money that's where we can get it from except for them to players.
29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So if that does not happen by tying training cap in, he will not begin extension.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't, I don't see it.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And even when even with hard knocks, I know a lot of people talk about, they make calls like controversy, whatever.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing about that, that we know about, oh, Sean McDermott history.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And he'd like to keep these behind closed doors.
29:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So best believe he's telling them players, you don't say, oh, you act certain ways around these cameras.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's they, that's they, that's they within us.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's they within here, right?
30:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, but, but, but, but not lead at James Cook, Pewney realized he's about his money, right?
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd buy the make five million dollars the most he ever made.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want to get five from charges.
30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if he got charged from the charges for not showing up to OTA, let me upload for training camp.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: OTA is his whole five million dollars would have been gone.
30:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So honestly, he don't have any leverage.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the back right now.
30:24
[SPEAKER_01]: James could have no leverage when it comes to just bills because you still in the contract for one year.
30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And this team do not have to pay.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me out.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I, you know, and I want to go, I can go back to what you're saying.
30:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I've watched the part of yours.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want Jane Cook's back home.
30:41
[SPEAKER_02]: James Cook's back.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: See, it's not that I don't want James Cook.
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I like James Cook.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of people get that misinterpreted.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I like James Cook, but I feel like we're not going to miss a step without it.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that being said, I feel like this, you can plug and play within this office of line.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So even listen, we got a third string running back.
31:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Who could average a hundred yards behind his line?
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We got ready, Davis who came in for the just input of a hundred and sixty seven, all purpose yards behind this line.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like we, we see it with a rookie, we see it with a third or third string running back.
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We, you could pretty much plug and play this office of line, but yeah, it's good.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't they go miss many steps if we don't have that's that's what our Jamie Lee feels.
31:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we have that good of all things.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so, we asked me this question with hard knocks.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Because, because I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you some flavor and go ahead.
31:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So, hard knocks is coming up.
31:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Does he hold in, hold out?
31:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you resign?
31:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want him back?
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your thoughts about James Cook?
31:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And should we resign him?
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So, my thoughts on James Cook?
31:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that after a thorough conversation outside of the lines, I think that we do resigning.
32:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been saying this on our part, I'm going to say firm with it.
32:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we resigning.
32:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Bean has showed
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I showed the bills, players, and the bills just like in general, like the whole the whole NFL.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I showed he takes care of his peak.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy has resigned everybody.
32:18
[SPEAKER_00]: His offensive line is set for the next four or five years.
32:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still got to resign all Osiris Torrance after, you know, maybe after this year, maybe extend them before it gets down to his deal time.
32:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You got, why receivers that are still young, you got them extended.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your care extended.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You got guys like Josh and you gave the farm too.
32:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody on the weekends that you need is already many extended.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: All the players that need to be gone are gone.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: We got younger and every position that we needed to be young in.
32:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that it's set the precedent in draft weekend when they didn't get a running back.
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that
32:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What else?
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it showed and it gave James Cook that sense of security coming into training camp that if he does everything the right way, they're going to find the way to get him that money.
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that we signed him to a contract that doesn't exceed him by the age of thirty.
33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that a three year
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: forty mil like getting around that area like with incentives.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's I think that that'll that'll be more than enough to keep it.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all about guaranteed money these days.
33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: How much can you give him?
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that guys like I didn't touch on this when you brought it up with Dawson Knox.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dude, this guy's got to be one of the most overpayed items to do nothing in the NFL.
33:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And when they did his extension, it was, it was a lot.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of us was like, wow.
33:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, really fused.
33:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're like, really for that.
33:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You like, he's still living off the street farm in the truck from the sensey game is working here.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And not even that.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: You split, you've seen the potential, right?
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen the potential and doesn't.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it was.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: You gave him the money on the potential.
34:10
[SPEAKER_02]: But it didn't, it didn't.
34:12
[SPEAKER_02]: His game hasn't elevated.
34:15
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
34:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So then you went and got a dog and concave and you just like where you like sitting here confused and you're like, all right, two tidal sets.
34:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when you had Candorci who messed up like, yeah, he ruined everything.
34:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and HB, I have two questions referring back to James Kikdai, that need for you to answer from me.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So, one of the James Kikdai, if we do extend to him, where's we gonna get that money from?
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And number two, under Sean McDermott and Brandon Bing, we just discussed, we just did every single turn, every single turn was not a bad run-in-back, just in case anybody in Yawano, he was not a bad run-in-back.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We have not extended any of our run-in-backs.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: The Buffalo Bills have not extended a run-in-back since Thurmy Thomas.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So what makes you think that they're going to extend James could what makes him different this time around compared to them already extended every single person every single position that we need it for this court for this team quarter stick together.
35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: What makes you think they're going to sign him?
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got I got three players just all top my head that I had to write down.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Dawson Knox AJ Ebenezer and the cash cow himself Josh Allen.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think those are the guys that you could restructure and able to get him the guarantee money for the years coming forward.
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And Big Baller being man every year, he makes it happen.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that as far as the season as it progresses, I wanted him to get signed by the end of training camp.
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wanted him to get his money by the end of training camp.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: If that doesn't happen, I still feel like he's professing enough to play because like you said, he likes his money.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think if he sits out, it's gonna set up like a Mike Parsons type of conversation where he's kind of making it wish he was she like he's gonna not play that good or set out before he gets his money.
36:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they am bound.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and look how that turned out for him.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure he's smart enough.
36:07
[SPEAKER_00]: to not fall into that category, and like that even his own brother, that'll be cook.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like if it wasn't for his brother, I feel like he wouldn't, none of this drama would have happened in the first place.
36:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But we all have those people in the family to think that they know something, and then they want to get in your business, and then next thing you know, you gotta explain to a bunch of people, listen, this isn't me, but it's me.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm the guy that's talking, but it's not, I'm not the one that thought that.
36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of, that's the realistic, like, you know, outside of the politics football type of talk.
36:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's real life of the happens and I think that's what it was.
36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I think that those are the three guys though that that our field comfortable restructuring.
36:52
[SPEAKER_00]: HNP and that's how much is it going to play really.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We're landing Jackson and Joey Bosa be in there.
36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got, you got to fit those guys in.
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Dustin knocks you, you're dealing with a guy that just got married.
37:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's about to have a kid.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So grab to him.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you think he's going to really want a restructure?
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, but if he doesn't want a restructure, you're a traitor.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a traitor.
37:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't, he's not expensive compared to other titans in the league.
37:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a lot of these guys want to stay in Buffalo.
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys are willing to take a picture.
37:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt Monto took a pay cut.
37:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, don't even look at no one else.
37:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be in Buffalo.
37:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He took another pay cut this season.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say so our willing to do it because they know the potential of this team.
37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
37:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And speaking of speaking of cooks and Mike Brandon being said, he said he wants to draft, develop and recite.
37:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And when it came to, and I get what you're saying that they don't, they don't sign running backs.
37:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I think also to it has to be a mutual thing.
37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: If you come to the table with this, and I think I'm here, and we're not even know we're meeting in the middle, then yeah, I got to walk.
38:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's bad.
38:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, exact moths, we can't compare this, but do exact moths.
38:12
[SPEAKER_02]: we were all disappointing that's that must pick all right we were all just like what I think he was who yeah his reaction he was like yeah I mean with the bill I'm gonna be a buffalo bill looking all yeah he looked sad yeah except well I mean you you didn't you didn't deal with you said you were gonna do you said you were gonna have people make this business decisions and and that happened none of that happened we made a business decision about getting rid of him yeah for sure
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but when I was at, I wasn't comparing them.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They did obviously two different caliber running back.
38:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
38:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's just the principle.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's kind of like, what makes James cook so different?
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like, for example, he only was, he barely reached the thousand yards last year.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a force they had to make him play the last week of the game.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, last week of the last week of the season, just to get his one thousand yards for his incentives.
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got, you got to take that to consideration as well.
39:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the year prior to that, he barely touched a thousand yards too.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, like, I ain't got a lot.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I used up a little bit on Cisno Gentie.
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Got all that money.
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, I was a rookie.
39:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I was okay.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay.
39:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We give a James Cook between talk and talk point five in the rest incentives.
39:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be okay.
39:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they reach the agreement before the season starts because I personally, I'm a James Cook stance.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that he brings to this offense and I understand that he's removed on third downs.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I understand that.
39:33
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we got tight.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's my guy.
39:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Ty Johnson is what is a swift army night.
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: He can do it all.
39:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That guy is making, I'm not saying peanuts because he's making more than all of us here, but you know, you're paying this guy this much and he's doing everything on the field.
39:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's my due.
40:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stay on offense and this offense hasn't really changed too much at all.
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: The only two players that were removed from there was Mac Hollins and Amari Cooper.
40:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You bring in more and you bring in Palmer.
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: They returned the pieces.
40:18
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you see this offense going from last year being at one of the top offenses in the NFL?
40:25
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you see?
40:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see a regression in this offense?
40:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, regressing in this offense?
40:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Or what do you see do you see standing still?
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what do you see?
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot of learning curves, but a lot of excitement this year.
40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I only feel that because
40:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the first time that Joe Brady took the home at O.C.
40:49
[SPEAKER_00]: and he had Gabe Davis, he had rookie Dawson Knox, not rookie Dawson Knox, rookie Dawson Knox, rookie Dawson Knox, he had Dawson Knox, he had Gabe Diggs, he had the whole nine and he was able to spread them all out.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he have Shakira too?
41:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I believe he has you here that year, too.
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and if we then he was able to give them like literally just spread out the field and just say, okay, we're talking service, where do you want to go with the ball?
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on top of that, you got now James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson at running back.
41:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not single theory.
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not balls.
41:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a tapious Murray.
41:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not none of that.
41:28
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the James Cook experience, and if you bring that guy into the offense alongside all these new receivers, I can see them being more past-centric.
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see them being able to mess around a lot more in the spread.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see a lot more points being scored on the board.
41:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Offensively, I just don't want them to lose their identity from the prior, which got them to the AFC Championship game.
41:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my only worry.
41:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if you are comfortable running the ball, sixty five percent of the time, which is what we did last year, it got Josh MVP, it got a city championship, it got a thirty point of game.
42:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if the defense steps up and the offense is able to keep that identity going, with just adding new wrinkles with Elijah Moore and Palmer, I think skies limit of this offense.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But I before you go, I know Sean McDermott kept preaching about a balanced offense.
42:18
[SPEAKER_02]: finally got a balanced offense.
42:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what it looks like.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is why I don't want James removed.
42:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
42:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That guy can step up and take that.
42:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But they don't have that explosiveness that James had.
42:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He hits the whole, he's gone.
42:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Two, one cut.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: James is gone.
42:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying right can't do that.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm saying, but James, because I did it for him.
42:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he has the attribute.
42:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Or show it.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and I you good so I want a person of your age being I feel like offense day get better because like for example we got Joshua Palmer you know he was overlooked because you know San Diego had a pretty stack magazine
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: for the past few years.
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been over, he's been over little by my Williams, you know, uh, my conking him.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So he been overlooked and for him, for him, they're not to get many snaps or reps as those as the receivers, for him to be almost a top five and separation.
43:15
[SPEAKER_01]: For him to have a least speed.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We already bring a different aspect to this game that we haven't seen for years.
43:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The last time Josh I was able to throw bombs was it was in twenty twenty.
43:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when we were saying every championship.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't been granted a spread offensive.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We never had a spread base.
43:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like last year, we was twenty-nineth in play action.
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know why?
43:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though we had a run game, our VC was couldn't get open.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have the vertical threats.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, the fact now that we got Elijah Moore, who showed out who showed his speed earlier today at training camp, we got a Joshua Palmer, who's just as fast as what occurred to Samuel.
43:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That right there's going to open up this office and we're going to lead our middle open for dogs and dogs.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for a dog in K, it's actually having good season.
43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we forgot about us to secure.
43:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody even said anything that this preseason or not this preseason training camp.
43:59
[SPEAKER_02]: They ain't saying nothing about collier chic here.
44:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They ain't saying nothing about Curtis Sam.
44:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't say anything about those guys.
44:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, where are they?
44:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
44:07
[SPEAKER_02]: What's we, you know what I'm saying?
44:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like crazy.
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: This black receiver room is and I get it.
44:12
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't know too much about it.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: People last year.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like, oh, these are two.
44:17
[SPEAKER_02]: There are all two.
44:18
[SPEAKER_02]: But these tools was whipping on his league.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, we had, we had a four name, Matt Collins, who became a one.
44:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So, right.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So, right.
44:31
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was a four, you'd be definitely gonna win.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so this all faces like, like you said, like, not many players had changed, like we didn't really swap out many, but the ones that we did bring is gonna open up this playbook to a whole different, a whole different level.
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see the Joe Brady, I care a line of.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see the Joe Brady when he was at LSU.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be, we might see so well.
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you might be surprised.
44:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to send him back there with Elijah Moore back there because they both could do the same thing.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They both are elite gadget players.
45:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now, uh, Curtis Samuel, he's not, he's not a suffering from that turf, so he's helped.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
45:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are going to be a problem.
45:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And our offense will be better this year.
45:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you that right now.
45:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
45:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we spoke about hard nights.
45:16
[SPEAKER_02]: What is one story you want to see?
45:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They got straight on.
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm already going.
45:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm going to be honest.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Keon Cole man.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a man.
45:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to be.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I need the cameras in front of him every episode because I'm a farmed believer.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know how I felt about him last year.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel he's playing out of position, but, but you know, he slimmed down.
45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I seem to take him home running.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's about running working on his separation.
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked pretty good compared to what he did last year, the even he said to himself.
45:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He played like trash.
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked trash.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was in trippin.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he would think, I mean, when he literally came out and said it, I said it.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So I said that.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm definitely looking forward to him.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if Keon Coleman does have that have a good sophomore jump.
46:03
[SPEAKER_01]: team's last year like for example the buffalo bills was played against what we we face man covers a fifty six point nine percent of the time last year or highest and a from any team if Kian Coleman if we could watch them development we actually see that no team will be able to play man against this they will struggle because Josh Allen to run so now I'm I'm looking for that story line of Kian Coleman his and the way him and Josh Allen chemistry they time and I want to see all that on camera I need to see all that time so I'm looking for
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for it.
46:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to I want to see how Josh takes all these pressures and is able to break that and is able to break that that hard knocks curse Which is whenever whenever there's somebody all hard knocks there's an issue.
46:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me let me bring my daughter up here to the forefront.
46:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Hello See my daughter escaped the asylum upstairs.
46:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So so I'm gonna be able to I'm gonna be able to over here
47:01
[SPEAKER_00]: deal with her cuteness.
47:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that train day goalie academy, I think they're going to bring that back to life.
47:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He got hard knocks, cans on them.
47:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to bring that back to life.
47:12
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of community likes them.
47:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I feel like Steph Curry here with the baby here.
47:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Josh Allen being able to be able to take all this attention with him being married to that haily chicken.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: and being able to still get the communications with the wide receivers.
47:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really hope that he doesn't, they don't put the cameras on Kiyan Coleman.
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: because he needs all the reps.
47:38
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get it.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And all that crap.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: That's because I don't get open.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I promise you, if he keeps doing that whole body swimming, he's not going to get off the street.
47:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do that.
47:49
[SPEAKER_00]: This already that viral video with that was that soon on like, oh, yeah, cut.
47:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He not get two yards.
47:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like if he, if he called mess around with the Macy sweater, he's going to be wearing one in the winter.
48:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
48:04
[SPEAKER_00]: We got so many tools.
48:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We got so many tools, but we got the one.
48:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we got one, seven.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like as long as we have him, I mean, barring injury, thank God for him, right?
48:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think that he gets the job done and I really hope that they dig into the Mad Max story because I know he's dealing with a lot of stuff with the whole like lawsuit and everything.
48:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I was he gonna be able to deal with all that attention being a first wrong pick and being in a one-on-one like
48:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, CB one battle which rate quite the better in the line line they're gonna be able to broadcast that and bring that to the light to us.
48:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see an act.
48:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want you that's that's a that's good, but the point also to I want to say this
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no such thing as a hard knocks curse.
48:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're really the ones that there's no such thing as a hard knocks curse because the hard knocks always go to the worst team of the lead.
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not going to be good at the next year anyways.
49:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the first time I actually go into a playoff contender team.
49:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get this this curse conspiracy.
49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That curse is out there.
49:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get that up out of here.
49:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Because also they said it was what was it the game and thing.
49:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't play.
49:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Why can I think of it?
49:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You see, oh my god, what is it?
49:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Manning, what is it?
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: The Manning, right?
49:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it the, um, oh my god, the video.
49:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
49:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Maddie, Maddie, Maddie, Maddie, Maddie, Maddie, Maddie, they said it was a Maddie curse in Josh.
49:36
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, no, it's no, it's no curse.
49:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He could find the next year.
49:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And he matter matter fact we we've been cursed since before Madden curse, but I'm not worried about that Madden.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Me neither.
50:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Me neither.
50:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But do I have a question for you to ask me because you have me one more mark that I want to add on.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Well I have a question about right.
50:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's know we have please, right?
50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So we know how we gave him the cameras in front of us.
50:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to do your best.
50:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So now that being said, do you think that if the camera's all on Kiana Coleman, do you think he really going to struggle?
50:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't you think I want to make him go harder?
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he don't want to see that type of tape.
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you think that would make him actually want to play better, or do you think that's going to kind of like hinder him?
50:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And y'all on to support you.
50:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you're like, you don't want to see it.
50:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you said, you don't want to see it.
50:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, that will control that.
50:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You think, try.
50:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Why go look like trash?
50:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Come back to Buffalo.
50:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You think Mad Max wanted to like trash?
50:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't do that dude, that dude's slain.
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's like this with the Mad Max chain.
50:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You think that he bought a go out there and try to look like trash?
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And not even as a bundle of bills got the last say when it comes to the cuts.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they put out there, Buffalo Bill's got to look at it and say, no, don't put that out there.
50:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
50:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
50:55
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
50:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't put that into account.
50:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you give them, I mean, the local loses going to tear him apart.
51:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They already aren't.
51:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
51:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he had a really frustrating first day.
51:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, if you said you'll, you'll, you'll stuff look trash like from last year.
51:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you don't come out all fired, so like all fires, you know, coming out all all, you know, coming out all gas, no breaks.
51:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that it's, it gives you a little cause to pause, you know?
51:22
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're giving them ammunition.
51:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're coming out, you said like you said, if you're saying last year, I was trashed and you came your first day at camp.
51:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You look similar to last year.
51:34
[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna be on your ass, you know what I'm saying?
51:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
51:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to pick it up, but before I get you guys out of here, I have one more question.
51:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Red helmets, how are you feeling?
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That sucks.
51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That sucks.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Two games.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: two games one year one year and when two games with the stand in Buffalo right yeah how many times have we seen a stand in Buffalo can we can we please get a whole new world of uniform how many Brown uniforms that we seen oh my god no they just revealed that you are helping here they just have uniforms every year so we can watch them that's about it
52:16
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
52:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty much.
52:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We're so true.
52:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You see Pittsburgh changing uniforms.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
52:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You see that uniform now it looks gross.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks gross.
52:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It's disgusting.
52:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like you're great at cheesy.
52:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a get a
52:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I can care less, just win.
52:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
52:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's good for the players, whatever, but me personally, I don't care about a helmet.
52:51
[SPEAKER_00]: What an ATL, what an ATL ever gets to deserve that appearance to the right helmet.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Why couldn't it be in, why couldn't it be in Miami or something?
52:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, why couldn't it be in a game like that?
53:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it, is it that game?
53:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's Atlanta and it's all the jets.
53:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was like, really.
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: See, so, so, so, so, so, so, so this is my thing, right?
53:13
[SPEAKER_01]: How, I wanted the blue helmet.
53:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be honest with you.
53:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The red helmet is okay.
53:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The red helmet will only be fired with the colors.
53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that means that's the only time we, we should award a red helmet with the firebrush.
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, uh, with the colorbrush.
53:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we even do last year, actually more?
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we do it once a year with the all red.
53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes, yes.
53:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really called the colorbrush anymore, but we do where the all red.
53:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, so so that yes, well, but that's why I call it because that's what it's called a man the color.
53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's what I know.
53:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But but other than that like me personally, they better come out with new new new new uniforms next year for a new stadium.
53:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what they better do.
53:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I think I don't mind it's only one game, but I think we should probably do it for twice if it's if it's really the the the tribute to go away season the farewell season.
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I should have did it for the whole season.
53:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fair will whatever buy we're getting out is building do it for the whole season like not just one game like
54:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes no sense.
54:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
54:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fair world tour and I would have loved no more than to see the two thousand eight like dark blue jersey.
54:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, somebody was talking about that today.
54:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: With the red helmet.
54:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
54:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I had the dark blue jersey.
54:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that look.
54:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
54:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it's one of those deals where, I mean, I'm a, I mean, I'm watching football really since like, oh, seven.
54:36
[SPEAKER_02]: so but then after that became a story into the game like a love football and I just seeing that uniform and then seeing a comfortable circle with the fair world tour it would have been awesome to see as a first shot first shot well guys thank you so much that's all I have for you for you guys tell everybody what they can find you let them know what's up next when you guys want to pop it again because again you guys are doing two days apparently so let everybody know what they can find you work show man
55:05
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55:18
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55:24
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55:30
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55:32
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55:33
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55:35
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55:39
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55:40
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55:51
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55:56
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55:57
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56:00
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56:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be hot as hell out there because it's supposed to be ninety.
56:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Take a my son.
56:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So
56:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably be dropping some stuff that people know going on.
56:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
56:12
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56:15
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56:19
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56:21
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56:22
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56:24
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56:26
[SPEAKER_01]: definitely send me some pictures tomorrow while you actually.
56:29
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56:35
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56:35
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56:37
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56:38
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56:42
[SPEAKER_02]: What you guys do on come on.
56:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So we could talk definitely going to be talking in season because we got to talk about this James Cook and see what's going happen.
56:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
56:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a pleasure.
56:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
56:53
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
56:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, peace out.