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- 0:11Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Guy at Jupiter Episode one and
- 0:14Speaker 1: seven with mister James fake out. I had James on
- 0:18Speaker 1: about a little more in a year ago ago, a
- 0:20Speaker 1: year ago, and I've been trying to get a hold
- 0:23Speaker 1: of him, reach out to him, see if you'd come
- 0:24Speaker 1: back on, and he finally said yes. Then he contacted
- 0:28Speaker 1: me said there's a snowstorm so I can't work. We
- 0:30Speaker 1: can do it now if you won. I was like, yeah,
- 0:32Speaker 1: of course. So you know, James had the incredible enormous
- 0:37Speaker 1: ten foot out with thirty foot wingspan episode, so go
- 0:40Speaker 1: back and check that one out. This time he came
- 0:42Speaker 1: on and he told us about the time he went
- 0:45Speaker 1: fishing doing something possibly illegal, but he didn't actually do it.
- 0:50Speaker 1: And this the craziest thing happened to him. Started hearing
- 0:54Speaker 1: screams in different locations and as he's leaving, a sasquatch
- 0:59Speaker 1: step through like a blackened rectangular portal, so scared them.
- 1:04Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's a wild story. You're really going
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- 1:41Speaker 1: with mister James faka.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I guess. I'm from northwest Indiana. Nothing weird happened to
- 1:49Speaker 2: me up to the point where I fell out of
- 1:51Speaker 2: the tree. And that's when stuff slowly started happening in
- 1:55Speaker 2: a little stuff and I didn't see the pattern. And
- 1:58Speaker 2: then the I'll thing happened where that was the craziest
- 2:02Speaker 2: thing I seen up to that point. But a year later,
- 2:05Speaker 2: not even probably two miles from where that happened. Uh,
- 2:12Speaker 2: Me and a buddy, actually the guy that me and
- 2:15Speaker 2: Josh when I told the ol story. We're walking to
- 2:17Speaker 2: his house, Dennis. Uh. We were actually doing something sore
- 2:22Speaker 2: to illegal, which took a long time for me to
- 2:25Speaker 2: admit and talk about.
- 2:26Speaker 1: But okay, just to make sure, make sure they don't
- 2:29Speaker 1: incriminate yourself.
- 2:30Speaker 2: I was, well, it didn't happen, so we really didn't incriminate.
- 2:35Speaker 2: But uh, there's a park in the town called Lennon
- 2:39Speaker 2: Lake and it closes at dark, that's gated to where
- 2:43Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be in there after dark. And
- 2:45Speaker 2: we do fishing, so I didn't have to work. We
- 2:51Speaker 2: took the day off to go fishing.
- 2:53Speaker 1: And it's is this the giant bug that you were
- 2:56Speaker 1: playing Zoro with? The big giant? Is that right?
- 3:01Speaker 2: Am? I am?
- 3:02Speaker 1: I am? I jumping to shark? Okay, I'm sorry, man.
- 3:05Speaker 2: I didn't see a dragonfly and a big spider fish.
- 3:08Speaker 2: But uh yeah, no, I don't know.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Okay somebody else, I'm sorry, please no.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So we went fishing for the day and
- 3:19Speaker 2: this is one of my ex girlfriend's little brother and
- 3:23Speaker 2: he's not really a outdoors person. He will fish and
- 3:30Speaker 2: every now and then, but mainly he stays inside and
- 3:32Speaker 2: plays a video games. But uh, yeah, I get I
- 3:36Speaker 2: talked him into going fishing and we go to this
- 3:38Speaker 2: park and we're fishing for a while and they built
- 3:41Speaker 2: this old playground when I was a kid, which I
- 3:45Speaker 2: probably was like five six years old when they completed this,
- 3:48Speaker 2: which would have made it like nineteen eighty five eighty six,
- 3:51Speaker 2: And they were tearing it down because they already built
- 3:54Speaker 2: a new one, like a more modern playground on the
- 3:57Speaker 2: other side of the park. And we're in the wooded
- 4:00Speaker 2: area and we noticed that there was three roll off
- 4:03Speaker 2: dumpsters lined up and they were tearing down this whole
- 4:06Speaker 2: playground and they and we've kind of peeked into the dumpsters.
- 4:10Speaker 2: No one was working, and we were just seeing like
- 4:12Speaker 2: what was in there as we were walking by, and
- 4:15Speaker 2: we noticed they weren't separating any of the metal. They
- 4:19Speaker 2: were just gonna turn all the cast aluminum and all
- 4:22Speaker 2: the treated lumber and beams and everything for this big
- 4:26Speaker 2: two story wooden playground, and they just had it all
- 4:30Speaker 2: twisted together. So I said, you know what, they're actually
- 4:33Speaker 2: going to get charged less if if we end up
- 4:36Speaker 2: taking this cast aluminum, even though we probably should have asked,
- 4:40Speaker 2: but I don't think they would have did it just
- 4:42Speaker 2: for like insurance reasons. Because the spiral slide was pretty
- 4:46Speaker 2: tall because it went up two stories. So we come
- 4:49Speaker 2: up with this idea that we were gonna stayed the
- 4:54Speaker 2: night at the park, or not stay the night, but
- 4:57Speaker 2: wait till it closed, and walked in in part the
- 5:00Speaker 2: buddy's house that was near this park and came through
- 5:02Speaker 2: a side gate, so we didn't have a car there,
- 5:06Speaker 2: and we were going to unboilt all these slides that
- 5:09Speaker 2: were still left that weren't under all the beams in
- 5:11Speaker 2: the in the rollo offs, and we're just gonna, I guess,
- 5:15Speaker 2: pull up with the truck the next day and load
- 5:17Speaker 2: them up just the I mean, I don't know what
- 5:21Speaker 2: cast was going forward back then, but we figured we
- 5:24Speaker 2: were going to get a few hundred dollars from what
- 5:27Speaker 2: was there. And I really didn't like to admit the
- 5:30Speaker 2: fact that we were doing this because it sounds horrible
- 5:34Speaker 2: like we were taking away some kids playground or something.
- 5:38Speaker 2: But that was not the case. They built a new one
- 5:40Speaker 2: and stuff, so they were just stowing it away. Okay,
- 5:44Speaker 2: So we were going to do this two or three
- 5:48Speaker 2: different times. I can't quite remember. I believe it was
- 5:52Speaker 2: two times that we were planning on doing it and
- 5:56Speaker 2: staying because this is like maybe July or something, because
- 5:59Speaker 2: it was real warm out, the mosquitoes were bad and
- 6:05Speaker 2: we were just planning on staying there, and after these
- 6:08Speaker 2: two nights of trying to trying to do it, I'm
- 6:12Speaker 2: not even trying, just having other plans that we finally
- 6:16Speaker 2: got to do it this one night. So we walked in.
- 6:19Speaker 2: We enter fishing, minor fishing stuff, but I had expensive stuff.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And then there's a point for me to tell that
- 6:27Speaker 2: part or whatever because something happens to it. But we
- 6:31Speaker 2: ended up walking around the lake to the back end
- 6:36Speaker 2: where we're not really seen too much. It started to
- 6:40Speaker 2: get dark and we kind of like went further into
- 6:43Speaker 2: the woods. So when they would do the round to
- 6:46Speaker 2: see if everybody's out, the cars were out and everybody's
- 6:48Speaker 2: out so they can lock the gate for the night.
- 6:53Speaker 2: They did it around and that was around eight nine
- 6:56Speaker 2: o'clock and then they did it, and we were still
- 6:59Speaker 2: there on that backside of this lake and it's nighttime
- 7:03Speaker 2: at this point, and they did it. We sat there
- 7:05Speaker 2: for a little while and they did another round, and
- 7:09Speaker 2: we would have probably been already unbolting this thing. They
- 7:12Speaker 2: might have seen us when they did the second round,
- 7:16Speaker 2: and we figure after they left the second time, they
- 7:19Speaker 2: were locking the gate and probably not coming back. So
- 7:24Speaker 2: we went over and uh, we had w D fourty
- 7:28Speaker 2: and wrenches already the right sizes and everything to unbolt
- 7:31Speaker 2: this thing from concrete and both of them, and we
- 7:35Speaker 2: sprayed the bolts again, waited a little bit, waited a
- 7:39Speaker 2: little bit longer. I don't know if I should tell
- 7:42Speaker 2: this part, but we did smoke. We burned one one
- 7:47Speaker 2: doobi or whatever, just to just to let a little
- 7:51Speaker 2: bit more time go by, and the bolts soil keeping.
- 7:55Speaker 2: And when we walked over to the playground part to
- 8:00Speaker 2: do is we left our fish and stuff cast it
- 8:02Speaker 2: out for a catfish, just to have an excuse of
- 8:07Speaker 2: why we were back there if we did end up
- 8:09Speaker 2: getting caught by the There's a house up by the
- 8:12Speaker 2: gate where the people that run the park live. And
- 8:17Speaker 2: at this point, when we're over by the by the
- 8:21Speaker 2: slide of getting ready to do it, we hear this
- 8:24Speaker 2: unnerving scream what we thought was a woman possibly being
- 8:30Speaker 2: injured very badly and not having a weapon on me
- 8:36Speaker 2: or or on us or anything. We're like, man, we
- 8:40Speaker 2: can't really help. We don't know if we should try
- 8:44Speaker 2: to go into the trail in the woods to see
- 8:47Speaker 2: if this person needs help or what's going on or whatever.
- 8:52Speaker 2: And I mean, this screaming is just so loud, but
- 8:55Speaker 2: it sounds really it really sounded like a woman being injured,
- 8:59Speaker 2: very and I told Dennis at the time, this is
- 9:06Speaker 2: so loud. Somebody one of these neighborhood houses or the
- 9:09Speaker 2: people that run the park are going to hear this.
- 9:11Speaker 2: And if something happens to this lady, were the two
- 9:15Speaker 2: dumb asses they're going to find when they show up.
- 9:19Speaker 2: And I was like, maybe we should just get out
- 9:21Speaker 2: of here and call it when we get out of
- 9:24Speaker 2: here and not be part of this. And uh. It
- 9:30Speaker 2: went on for a little while and I'm just and
- 9:32Speaker 2: Dennis isn't an outdoors person, so he's asking me. He's
- 9:36Speaker 2: like like terrified, like what is doing that? And like
- 9:40Speaker 2: I said, I thought it was a woman. And then
- 9:44Speaker 2: the second one starts up further into the woods, away
- 9:47Speaker 2: from the first one, and I was like, there's no
- 9:50Speaker 2: way there's two ladies out here being injured. And this
- 9:55Speaker 2: town does have the history of like satanic stuff, so
- 9:59Speaker 2: I didn't if that's what we stepped into or what
- 10:04Speaker 2: was going on, but we were kind of trapped because
- 10:07Speaker 2: my id was in a backpack on this peninsula of
- 10:11Speaker 2: the back end of this lake where we left the
- 10:13Speaker 2: fish and stuff like cast it out, and I told him.
- 10:16Speaker 2: I was like, man, I have to go back to
- 10:18Speaker 2: at least grab my backpack because if something happens this,
- 10:22Speaker 2: they're going to find my id and be at my
- 10:24Speaker 2: house the next day, right, think that this is all
- 10:28Speaker 2: my flaw. And we were kind of trapped because of
- 10:32Speaker 2: where these screaming noises were coming. Were in between where
- 10:37Speaker 2: this playground was and where the back end of this
- 10:41Speaker 2: lake is where we had the stuff. And I was like, well,
- 10:45Speaker 2: maybe maybe if we wait a little bit, something will
- 10:50Speaker 2: change and I'll go over there by myself, just to
- 10:53Speaker 2: grab my back and get onto there. And at that
- 10:58Speaker 2: point I could hear what sounded like a metal on
- 11:06Speaker 2: concrete or like a sewer lid being slid on the
- 11:10Speaker 2: road like that noise, and Dennis could hear this too
- 11:14Speaker 2: at this point, but there it wasn't until I asked
- 11:19Speaker 2: him if he could feel that too, and he looked
- 11:23Speaker 2: at me puzzled, like what are you talking about? So
- 11:26Speaker 2: I don't know if this has something to do with
- 11:30Speaker 2: me falling out of the tree and feeling something that
- 11:32Speaker 2: he couldn't, but I was feeling like like a shock. Well,
- 11:37Speaker 2: you were in the military, so you'd probably understand this.
- 11:39Speaker 2: When someone shoots like a high caliber rifle, you get
- 11:43Speaker 2: that like impact shockwave in.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Your body if you.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Yeah like a Barrett. I've been around those enough to
- 11:53Speaker 2: put those two together that that's very close to what
- 11:56Speaker 2: I was feeling. Like the impact from the Barrett fifty
- 11:59Speaker 2: kl being fired was probably the closest I can get
- 12:02Speaker 2: to it. But it kept slapping like my heart my chest,
- 12:06Speaker 2: like it was almost skipping, skipping a beat, and I asked.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I looked at Dennis, and when Dennis was younger, he
- 12:13Speaker 2: got injured by a little girl on the swing on
- 12:17Speaker 2: the playground at school, so he's kind of got bad vision,
- 12:22Speaker 2: at least in the one eye. And it being dark
- 12:27Speaker 2: and only light by the lake or whatever, we couldn't
- 12:29Speaker 2: really see much. But that's when I really started to
- 12:32Speaker 2: freak out because I'm like, what am I feeling? This
- 12:35Speaker 2: is never never been an option, and I didn't And
- 12:38Speaker 2: I even explained this on this channel seven eight years
- 12:42Speaker 2: ago when no one was talking about the sound of
- 12:46Speaker 2: concrete and metal like being associated with some of the
- 12:50Speaker 2: weirdness out in the woods, and I felt always weird
- 12:53Speaker 2: trying to explain it, and I was trying to explain
- 12:55Speaker 2: it like it was almost mechanical, where like I worked construction,
- 13:01Speaker 2: so I knew what it was like when a big
- 13:04Speaker 2: dump truck dumps a little graveler or sand in the
- 13:07Speaker 2: aluminum tailgate slams against the truck. You almost right, right,
- 13:12Speaker 2: right right.
- 13:12Speaker 1: My dad used to be a truck driver, Yeah he did.
- 13:14Speaker 1: He didn't.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like a combination between that and like
- 13:18Speaker 2: a gunshot from a high caliber rifle. But I was like, hey, man,
- 13:23Speaker 2: do you feel that? And he looked at me puzzled,
- 13:26Speaker 2: like we're even talking about, like I don't feel nothing,
- 13:29Speaker 2: and he just shook his head. And we're whispering at
- 13:32Speaker 2: this point because we don't know the screaming still continuing
- 13:36Speaker 2: as we're hearing this, and I'm feeling this, So I was.
- 13:41Speaker 2: I was worried extremely, even more than from before. Once
- 13:46Speaker 2: I could feel like the every thirty seconds the shockwave hit,
- 13:50Speaker 2: I guess, and I was just like, man, we need
- 13:53Speaker 2: to get out of here. So at this point, we
- 13:58Speaker 2: could hear a struggle in the woods near one of
- 14:03Speaker 2: the screamings, where it sounded like a bunch of tree
- 14:07Speaker 2: tops or maybe a big patch of like fines and
- 14:13Speaker 2: trees were being moved at one time, and we're not
- 14:17Speaker 2: able to see this because it's further in the woods
- 14:19Speaker 2: where we could hear it. But I'm just kind of
- 14:21Speaker 2: like squatting on this black top trail that goes around
- 14:24Speaker 2: the lake, and I just I'm like closing my eyes
- 14:26Speaker 2: to almost use my senses of hearing better or at
- 14:30Speaker 2: least to try, yeah, to figure out what was going on.
- 14:34Speaker 2: And like I said, that was at that point, there
- 14:36Speaker 2: was like two different screamings and they weren't like together.
- 14:41Speaker 2: They were what you'd hear one, you'd hear the other one,
- 14:44Speaker 2: but you could hear this struggle. And I was like,
- 14:46Speaker 2: man because of the isle. Was like maybe when every
- 14:52Speaker 2: now and then adeial scream like a like a buck
- 14:56Speaker 2: or a white tailed deer, It's not reported too often.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I've heard it once at night time where I thought
- 15:02Speaker 2: it was some a person screaming, but the deer walked
- 15:06Speaker 2: up pretty close and it was screaming, So I told maybe, uh,
- 15:11Speaker 2: the owl has a deer and it's this big I
- 15:16Speaker 2: was trying to drag away like a like a deer
- 15:18Speaker 2: or a few of them are trying to eat this
- 15:20Speaker 2: deer alive. And that was like my way of coping
- 15:24Speaker 2: or explain to myself that there was danger, but it wasn't.
- 15:29Speaker 2: It wasn't a woman at that point, is what I thought.
- 15:32Speaker 2: So I was relieved in that part, but I was like,
- 15:35Speaker 2: we still need to get out of here in my backpacks.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I had to walk towards all this noise to get
- 15:41Speaker 2: to my backpack, and I'm not swimming the lake at night.
- 15:46Speaker 2: And the noises finally started to move away from us,
- 15:51Speaker 2: deeper into the woods the struggle. The one kind of
- 15:54Speaker 2: died out and didn't scream too much anymore. Then the
- 15:58Speaker 2: second one finally did too, but you could still hear
- 16:01Speaker 2: like commotion deep in the woods where it didn't sound
- 16:05Speaker 2: like football. It just sounded like a struggle and thick brush, okay.
- 16:11Speaker 2: And when it got further away, I was like, man,
- 16:15Speaker 2: this is our chance, or at least my chance to
- 16:18Speaker 2: get over and get my backpack, grab my fish and stuff,
- 16:21Speaker 2: which was probably maybe five hundred to one thousand dollars
- 16:26Speaker 2: between my backpack and four poles and some stuff.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 16:30Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, I really want to grab my
- 16:32Speaker 2: stuff if it's possible. So Dennis ends up going with
- 16:36Speaker 2: me because the noise is further away, and I don't
- 16:39Speaker 2: think he wanted to be by himself where we just
- 16:42Speaker 2: felt like we should stick together. And we started to
- 16:47Speaker 2: like walk as quiet as we could towards the figure
- 16:52Speaker 2: on this peninsula or whatever where it was out and
- 16:57Speaker 2: by the time we got almost to the poles, you
- 17:01Speaker 2: could hear something, which this is gonna kind of sound
- 17:04Speaker 2: a little bit crazy. It sounded like something was outside
- 17:08Speaker 2: the park and it ran towards us, maybe like a
- 17:14Speaker 2: quarter mile away, but it ran towards us, straight towards us,
- 17:20Speaker 2: like from where it was at, and you could hear
- 17:23Speaker 2: little trees, branches break, you could hear what sounded like
- 17:26Speaker 2: a whole tree falling over as it was like belying
- 17:30Speaker 2: and coming towards us, okay, And that terrified the shit, sorry,
- 17:37Speaker 2: terrified the crap out of me. And I've never heard
- 17:42Speaker 2: any I mean, it sounded like somebody driving a dump
- 17:45Speaker 2: truck through a woods with no trails and just being
- 17:50Speaker 2: able to like hit trees and knock them over. Whether
- 17:54Speaker 2: there was trees knocked over, I'm not sure. I mean,
- 18:00Speaker 2: I have a feeling that the metal noise was possibly
- 18:07Speaker 2: a portal opening. But then I felt like we were
- 18:10Speaker 2: in a bubble and nobody could hear what was going on.
- 18:13Speaker 2: And I'll explain why. I guess I thought that later on.
- 18:17Speaker 2: But when all this noise commotion or whatever, it stopped
- 18:22Speaker 2: short of us, and it was maybe sixty yards out
- 18:28Speaker 2: where it stopped when it ran towards us, But it
- 18:31Speaker 2: did all that. It covered that much ground in like
- 18:35Speaker 2: not even ten seconds. Wow, and like nothing's really gonna
- 18:39Speaker 2: drive straight through a thick woods but no trails in
- 18:42Speaker 2: it that fast and make that much commotion. And you
- 18:45Speaker 2: could actually hear like a bipedal foot thump while it
- 18:49Speaker 2: was running towards us. And I mean, I wanted to
- 18:53Speaker 2: believe as a kid that Bigfoot was real, but at
- 18:57Speaker 2: that point I was not sure because it was anything
- 19:00Speaker 2: I've ever experienced or seen, and it had just stopped
- 19:06Speaker 2: that quiet, There was no noise, and we just sat
- 19:08Speaker 2: there on that peninsula with my my, my stuff on
- 19:11Speaker 2: and the poles reeled in and we were hoping to
- 19:15Speaker 2: go out one of the ways, but we could still
- 19:19Speaker 2: hear the commotion where we came in and this thing.
- 19:22Speaker 2: I wish I had a map to show you, like
- 19:24Speaker 2: where and how this thing approached and stopped. Okay, we waited,
- 19:29Speaker 2: probably a good.
- 19:30Speaker 1: You can maybe tell me what's the name of the
- 19:33Speaker 1: what's the name of the.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Park, Lendon Lake County Park.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let's go go ahead and take self
- 19:41Speaker 1: a break and let's take a look. See that way
- 19:44Speaker 1: you can explain. I can actually show it if you
- 19:47Speaker 1: could do that, because yeah, so what's the name of
- 19:49Speaker 1: the park of which state?
- 19:50Speaker 2: Uh, Lendon Lake in Indiana? Lawn Lemon.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Lemon?
- 20:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Lemon Lake, Lemon l e m o n yep.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Lemon Lake, I think Indiana, Yes, okay, Lemon Lake, Indiana.
- 20:13Speaker 2: Okay, well it's Cedar Lake, Indiana. But Lendon Lake is
- 20:17Speaker 2: the county park.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Okay, so the county park. Okay, I'm ahead and share
- 20:24Speaker 1: this and you can direct me where I should go
- 20:27Speaker 1: if you can see it. Let's go ahead and share screen.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Would be very cool.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, man, that's the whole the whole idea. Okay.
- 20:36Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, if I was better with tech,
- 20:40Speaker 2: i'd be able to do it myself to explain and show.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Okay. So, okay, so there's a pen.
- 20:52Speaker 2: With that the park that the playground that we're trying
- 20:55Speaker 2: to disassembles houses.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I don't know honestly, it's a long time ago. Maybe. Yeah,
- 21:10Speaker 1: it looks like houses.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's another peninsula. Yeah, it's not that.
- 21:18Speaker 1: What's the name of the park?
- 21:19Speaker 2: Uh, London Lake County Park is the name?
- 21:23Speaker 1: Is it called Riddle Point? Okay, it's Riddle Whole Point Park?
- 21:27Speaker 1: Is that it?
- 21:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not This isn't Cedar Lake. So I don't
- 21:31Speaker 2: know that's is that Cedar Lake? That was like, is
- 21:37Speaker 2: that what the lake name? The lake is right there,
- 21:41Speaker 2: Lemon Lake.
- 21:41Speaker 1: I don't know where Cedar Lake is. This is a lake.
- 21:47Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no houses Cedar.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Lake, Indiana. Yeah, maybe we're on the song part. Maybe
- 21:53Speaker 1: we're on the wrong plate.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Okay, Cedar Lake where Okay, it's a uh uh from
- 22:01Speaker 2: there from Cedar Lake, it was, okay, so h it
- 22:11Speaker 2: would be a little northeast.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Okay, So what's what's the name of the state park
- 22:15Speaker 1: or the park?
- 22:15Speaker 2: Do you know county park? It's Lemon Lake County.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Park, northeast. Yeah, I'm on Cedar Lake right now. Okay,
- 22:23Speaker 1: So I gotta know what which lake is it on?
- 22:26Speaker 1: Is it Lemon Lake or is the Cedar Lake Lemon Lake?
- 22:29Speaker 2: Cedar Lake's just the town. So it's like a little
- 22:33Speaker 2: bit northeast of that lake, more east than north, but
- 22:38Speaker 2: a little bit north northeast, so it'd be overdre right
- 22:43Speaker 2: somewhere there should be another body of water.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Lemon Lake County Park.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Yeah, limon.
- 22:52Speaker 1: Lemon Lake County Park.
- 22:54Speaker 2: Yep. There. I think it's about ten or twelve acres.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right here. Is it called Lemon Lake County Park.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. No, there's yep. Okay, okay. And now
- 23:06Speaker 2: on the back end of the lake, which would be
- 23:08Speaker 2: the north, well, it would be the east side of
- 23:15Speaker 2: that lake. Is the back end of it where you'll
- 23:17Speaker 2: see the peninsula.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you there?
- 23:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know if you.
- 23:37Speaker 1: You No, I'm not seeing the peninsula. I'm seeing I'm
- 23:42Speaker 1: seeing okay. If I'm here at if I'm here at
- 23:45Speaker 1: Lemon Lake County Park, there is a beach volleyball court.
- 23:50Speaker 1: We have.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Count drive, okay, and then then you go to the lake.
- 23:57Speaker 2: And then the back end of the lake there should
- 23:59Speaker 2: be a point that sticks out. There is a vola
- 24:04Speaker 2: and that okay, the second one, the second one that's
- 24:12Speaker 2: more north, the one it yeah, that's that's the trail
- 24:19Speaker 2: that goes around the lake that comes into it too.
- 24:23Speaker 1: Okay, I guess the peninsula would be this part sticking
- 24:25Speaker 1: out here, So the peninsula is on the north side.
- 24:28Speaker 2: You have to go all right, where your arrow was
- 24:31Speaker 2: at right now is where where it was, and it's
- 24:34Speaker 2: slowly been e roading over the years where I guess
- 24:38Speaker 2: eating away the peninsula. But uh, yeah, we were trapped
- 24:43Speaker 2: there for a good hour hour and a half because
- 24:45Speaker 2: whatever ran in was a little bit more north outside
- 24:49Speaker 2: of the park and it ran to I guess that
- 24:52Speaker 2: would be the north the northern tip, and it stopped
- 24:56Speaker 2: short of us, and it didn't make a sound, So
- 24:58Speaker 2: I I assume that I don't know if I was
- 25:02Speaker 2: just reasoning myself because I was so scared, but I
- 25:05Speaker 2: thought maybe this thing realized whatever it was, because I've
- 25:10Speaker 2: never heard anything run that fast or make that much
- 25:14Speaker 2: commotion towards us or whatever, that it finally, after an
- 25:18Speaker 2: hour and a half of not hearing anything, that it
- 25:21Speaker 2: that it wandered off or walked away without really making
- 25:24Speaker 2: any noise. So yeah, I'm waiting.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Right, you didn't know, You didn't know to go to
- 25:32Speaker 1: the right.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Well to the right was the playground, and that was
- 25:36Speaker 2: where the screaming noise, and the whatever was in the
- 25:40Speaker 2: woods in between us, because the playground is probably not
- 25:43Speaker 2: on this map because they disassembled and took it down.
- 25:47Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I for some unknown dumb reason, I
- 25:52Speaker 2: tell Dennis.
- 25:53Speaker 1: I was like, it's maybe I don't know, fifty maybe
- 25:57Speaker 1: sixty yards by one hundred yards long, something like that.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that one right now on the screen, all right,
- 26:05Speaker 2: And the playground, the playground was over to your right
- 26:07Speaker 2: from where your cursor was just at. Okay, it's no
- 26:12Speaker 2: longer there, but yeah, it was somewhere a little further
- 26:15Speaker 2: up from where it was just that. We're actually where
- 26:18Speaker 2: that perill winds around and leaves that loop. It was
- 26:21Speaker 2: pretty close to right there on the right side.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Of Okay, I got you. I got you on the
- 26:26Speaker 1: right side and the loop.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Here, Okay, yeah, that's where the playground maybe maybe a
- 26:30Speaker 2: little bit, that's where. And I told Dennis, I was like, hey,
- 26:34Speaker 2: I'm not scared, and some unknown reason, I get a
- 26:38Speaker 2: little bit of guts to me, and I was like,
- 26:40Speaker 2: I think whatever it was left, or maybe it ate
- 26:43Speaker 2: whatever it was eating, and it obviously didn't want us,
- 26:47Speaker 2: or it would have continued to come towards us more.
- 26:50Speaker 2: But I was like, let's head away from whatever. Just
- 26:54Speaker 2: ran towards us and stopped and go towards the playground again,
- 26:58Speaker 2: and maybe I'm both this thing and just get out here.
- 27:00Speaker 2: And Dennis kind of nodded his head because the mosquitoes
- 27:03Speaker 2: were horrible. Even though we sat there for an hour
- 27:06Speaker 2: hour and a half in the dark, we were getting
- 27:08Speaker 2: bit up where we had our heads like in our
- 27:10Speaker 2: shirts and our arms in our sleeves, just because they
- 27:15Speaker 2: were that bad. And I think that's part of the
- 27:17Speaker 2: reason why I was like, let's do something and just
- 27:21Speaker 2: get out of here. So at this point I put
- 27:26Speaker 2: myself on the danger side and I let Dennis stay
- 27:29Speaker 2: on the inside ring of that trail that goes around
- 27:32Speaker 2: and we were we got off of where this trail
- 27:36Speaker 2: comes off of the peninsula and we got on the
- 27:37Speaker 2: asphalt trail, and I kind of remember the sound of
- 27:42Speaker 2: our feet touching the asphalt and not making very much noise,
- 27:46Speaker 2: like I guess trying to be quiet about it. And
- 27:50Speaker 2: I looked to my left and and this is, like
- 27:53Speaker 2: I said, if you can go back and find this
- 27:54Speaker 2: show that I called in live on and maybe I
- 27:56Speaker 2: can figure out where it's at and send you a
- 27:58Speaker 2: link to listen if you got time. But I'm I
- 28:02Speaker 2: believe the first one that kind of brings us up
- 28:06Speaker 2: in the paranormal community. But I'm looking to the left
- 28:09Speaker 2: where the commotion was or whatever as we're walking out,
- 28:13Speaker 2: and I could see pretty far in the woods. I don't,
- 28:15Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have glasses, but uh, my eyes
- 28:19Speaker 2: adjusted just from being in the dark for so long,
- 28:22Speaker 2: right and not we didn't we didn't bring a flashlight,
- 28:24Speaker 2: which was which was dumb, but uh, we weren't planning
- 28:29Speaker 2: on using any But uh, I'm looking into the woods
- 28:32Speaker 2: on my left and he's on the right side, towards
- 28:35Speaker 2: the lake, and we're walking back to the right side,
- 28:38Speaker 2: and I want to say something to Dennis, but I'm
- 28:41Speaker 2: still like confused, and I'm looking in the woods and
- 28:45Speaker 2: further in the woods. It looked like I could see
- 28:48Speaker 2: further in the woods on the left side of the
- 28:51Speaker 2: like this black rectangular box, like it just looked like
- 28:55Speaker 2: somebody had a curtain up stretched over a spot in
- 28:59Speaker 2: the woods. And I was like I wanted to be
- 29:01Speaker 2: like hey, like hey man, look at this, but I'm
- 29:04Speaker 2: still just like not talking and we're moving slowly, like
- 29:08Speaker 2: quietly on the asphalt, and I'm thinking, why am I
- 29:11Speaker 2: able to see further in the woods on the left
- 29:14Speaker 2: side of this black spot blank spot? And then further
- 29:18Speaker 2: on the right side. I can see further in the
- 29:20Speaker 2: woods like with my vision. But there was one spot
- 29:22Speaker 2: that was just like blacked out or just looked like
- 29:26Speaker 2: a rectangular box the size of almost like a semi
- 29:29Speaker 2: trailer maybe, or like more like a sea box, like
- 29:33Speaker 2: a trained card box. Okay, the smaller ones, like the
- 29:38Speaker 2: twenty thirty footers or whatever. But I don't have time
- 29:42Speaker 2: to say hey or anything. And I'm staring at it,
- 29:45Speaker 2: thinking why am I able to not or why am
- 29:47Speaker 2: I able to see on both sides of this and
- 29:50Speaker 2: not that? And while I'm looking at it, it looked
- 29:53Speaker 2: like and it wasn't high to the ground. It only
- 29:55Speaker 2: looked like it was maybe six or eight foot tall,
- 30:00Speaker 2: this blank spot, but it looked like the silhouette. I
- 30:06Speaker 2: guess a bigfoot stepped out of this black spot, and
- 30:11Speaker 2: when it did, I could see like the I guess
- 30:15Speaker 2: the conical head sticking up above the six or eight
- 30:19Speaker 2: foot mark where I could now I got a visual
- 30:22Speaker 2: of something, and I still want to say something, but
- 30:25Speaker 2: I'm just like kind of dropping my jaw, like what
- 30:27Speaker 2: am I looking at? And it makes a break and
- 30:31Speaker 2: it starts running towards us. I guess to do what
- 30:34Speaker 2: people call, I guess a bluff charge. And it stopped short,
- 30:39Speaker 2: probably fifty feet sixty feet, And Dennis still isn't seeing
- 30:46Speaker 2: this or hearing this or anything. It's not really like
- 30:49Speaker 2: making noise other than the thump I guess of its feet.
- 30:54Speaker 2: That's the only like noise made. But when it stopped,
- 30:57Speaker 2: it looked like it got bigger, Like it like it
- 30:59Speaker 2: puffed up and became bigger, wider, and maybe a hair taller.
- 31:05Speaker 2: And it roars. And when it roars, the only way
- 31:10Speaker 2: to describe the roar would be like if you gave
- 31:13Speaker 2: a gorilla and mixed it with a lion, because and
- 31:19Speaker 2: if you've been in America where they have like the
- 31:21Speaker 2: tornado siren, yes, it was almost like if you gave
- 31:26Speaker 2: a lion and mixed the lion and a gorilla and
- 31:30Speaker 2: a bear possibly and gave it a megaphone and somehow
- 31:35Speaker 2: had the siren Like I don't know why that reminds
- 31:38Speaker 2: me of the tornado sound, but it was so.
- 31:41Speaker 1: So much sense what a great way to describe it.
- 31:44Speaker 2: It was so long. Yeah, I mean I yeah, I
- 31:48Speaker 2: thought of it, and then I thought for years, like, man,
- 31:50Speaker 2: if I would have had a gun, I would have
- 31:52Speaker 2: stepped back and to a tree for cover on the
- 31:55Speaker 2: side of it and probably took a couple of well
- 31:57Speaker 2: placed shots. I am handy, I guess in that department,
- 32:02Speaker 2: but that probably would have got us killed after I
- 32:05Speaker 2: learned later on about these things or whatever. But yeah,
- 32:09Speaker 2: when it roared it he obviously heard it to that point.
- 32:14Speaker 2: And I don't know which direction he was facing. He
- 32:18Speaker 2: was probably looking maybe that way finally now, but I
- 32:21Speaker 2: never he was on my right side and fake, I'm
- 32:24Speaker 2: looking to my left. And when this thing roars, it
- 32:28Speaker 2: reminded me like how loud a tornado siren is, and
- 32:32Speaker 2: how long over breath it was, how it like sticks
- 32:36Speaker 2: around with the siren part of the noise. Yeah, And
- 32:42Speaker 2: it was like my whole chest, my sternum and everything.
- 32:46Speaker 2: I could feel it vibrating like a piece of plastic,
- 32:50Speaker 2: like if you stuck a plastic bag out a window
- 32:52Speaker 2: and you're driving vibrate. It made my whole chest shake
- 32:57Speaker 2: like that, and I felt air like pressure, intense pressure,
- 33:04Speaker 2: pushing down on my head and forward on my chest
- 33:08Speaker 2: at the same time, like simultaneously, like somehow when it
- 33:11Speaker 2: roared it, I don't know if it was the waves,
- 33:16Speaker 2: the sound waves or what, but it was like somebody
- 33:18Speaker 2: had a huge fan or a helicopter and they were
- 33:22Speaker 2: pushing air down on me and towards my chest, and
- 33:27Speaker 2: I had stuff in my hand that I just threw.
- 33:32Speaker 2: And I don't know why I thought about it later,
- 33:34Speaker 2: why I turned in towards it to run, not at it,
- 33:38Speaker 2: But I was already looking left, so I finished the
- 33:42Speaker 2: motion of turning left to run backwards from where I
- 33:45Speaker 2: was facing. And when I did that, I lost track
- 33:50Speaker 2: of Dennis, and I was like so hysterical of being scared.
- 33:56Speaker 2: I guess at that point I was running pretty fast
- 34:00Speaker 2: through what I had in my hands to run even faster.
- 34:03Speaker 2: And now I'm running this trail to the left side
- 34:05Speaker 2: of the back end of the lake just to get
- 34:07Speaker 2: out of there that way because of where it was at.
- 34:12Speaker 2: And I'm thinking somebody, not somebody, bunches of somebody's just
- 34:19Speaker 2: heard this thing roar, and they're calling the cops. For sure.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Several people probably are in the houses that are like
- 34:28Speaker 2: and That's why I think that like it was almost
- 34:30Speaker 2: like I was trapped in a bubble or a portal
- 34:34Speaker 2: or something, because I really fully expected it to be
- 34:37Speaker 2: like in the paper, and like it be a thing somewhere,
- 34:41Speaker 2: like loud, intense noise was heard around this area or
- 34:46Speaker 2: something was going to show. But anyway, while I'm running,
- 34:50Speaker 2: i get probably halfway from the back end of the
- 34:54Speaker 2: lake where this point stuck out to the parking lot,
- 34:58Speaker 2: and I'm thinking in my head what just happened? Like
- 35:01Speaker 2: I'm running full speed, and I'm thinking, man, I've never
- 35:04Speaker 2: ran this fast in my life, Like I felt like
- 35:07Speaker 2: I was breaking a land record somehow. As I'm running,
- 35:11Speaker 2: I'm thinking, no one's ever gonna believe what just happened.
- 35:17Speaker 2: And then I start thinking about Dennis's sister and his mom,
- 35:24Speaker 2: which I was good friends with, and I thought, oh shit, Dennis,
- 35:29Speaker 2: Like I left Dennis over there and he froze up
- 35:33Speaker 2: or something instead of running, And now I'm screwed because
- 35:36Speaker 2: what am I going to tell his sister Bigfoot got
- 35:39Speaker 2: him or his mom Bigfoot got your son. Sorry, I
- 35:42Speaker 2: don't know where he's at right. Yeah, As I'm run
- 35:46Speaker 2: like I and the just to go back for a second.
- 35:52Speaker 2: When I was running, I was thinking the cops are
- 35:55Speaker 2: on their way, for sure, several people called them, probably,
- 35:59Speaker 2: but I was trying to think of a liar and excuse,
- 36:03Speaker 2: so why I was even back there Because I fully
- 36:05Speaker 2: expected the cops to meet me by the time I
- 36:09Speaker 2: was able to run like out of this park. I
- 36:11Speaker 2: figure they were gonna intercept me somewhere and be like
- 36:15Speaker 2: what just happened or whatever. And I'm trying to like
- 36:18Speaker 2: think of an excuse in my head while I'm running
- 36:22Speaker 2: why I was back there, and I can't remember why
- 36:25Speaker 2: I was back there, Like I'm trying hard in my
- 36:29Speaker 2: head to think why was I even what was I
- 36:32Speaker 2: even doing? I knew where I was at. I knew
- 36:34Speaker 2: I was at Lemon Lake on the backside, running, but
- 36:38Speaker 2: I couldn't. I got like so startled or and I
- 36:43Speaker 2: don't know what to call it, but I got so
- 36:45Speaker 2: like scared. I guess that I couldn't remember why I
- 36:49Speaker 2: was even back there. And when I thought about it,
- 36:52Speaker 2: I was like, man, Dennis, I left Dennis, and I
- 36:56Speaker 2: haven't turned around yet. I'm still running full speed, but
- 36:59Speaker 2: I started to slow down, and I was thinking, I
- 37:01Speaker 2: don't have a gun, like I'm reasoning with myself, like
- 37:06Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do? I want to go
- 37:08Speaker 2: back because I feel like he would maybe do the
- 37:12Speaker 2: same thing for me to help me. Maybe he's injured,
- 37:14Speaker 2: maybe something's happening. I don't know, but I started to
- 37:17Speaker 2: slow down, and when I did that, I haven't I
- 37:20Speaker 2: haven't turned around yet. And he finally blows past me,
- 37:24Speaker 2: running and I was thinking, yeah, I was thinking, thank god,
- 37:29Speaker 2: I don't have to go back to face whatever whatever.
- 37:33Speaker 2: And then this thing running in when it stepped out
- 37:37Speaker 2: of that spot, wasn't it. Uh So there had to
- 37:39Speaker 2: at least been three something's out there. I don't know
- 37:42Speaker 2: what the other two were. I only got to see
- 37:45Speaker 2: the silhouette in the dark of the one, and it
- 37:50Speaker 2: was almost like I could see friends, like if you
- 37:52Speaker 2: would draw a cartoon and put a like if somebody
- 37:56Speaker 2: put their finger in the socket and their hair and yeah,
- 38:01Speaker 2: that's kind of like what I was seeing in the
- 38:03Speaker 2: dark as the silhouette.
- 38:04Speaker 1: But whoa, Okay.
- 38:08Speaker 2: When Dennis runs past me, I was just like, I
- 38:10Speaker 2: literally said, thank god, because I didn't I really didn't want.
- 38:15Speaker 2: I wanted to turn around to go back for him,
- 38:16Speaker 2: but I didn't yet because I just was like that
- 38:20Speaker 2: scared and we didn't. Yeah, we didn't say a word
- 38:24Speaker 2: to each other. And we run out of this park
- 38:28Speaker 2: off this trail to the right side of that volleyball
- 38:32Speaker 2: beach or whatever it was. In the new playground. There's
- 38:35Speaker 2: a side gate that goes into a sub division right there.
- 38:38Speaker 2: We ran through that, which was a past couple of
- 38:41Speaker 2: baseball fields, through the sub division, down the street, past
- 38:46Speaker 2: another school, got to my car, which I had parked
- 38:50Speaker 2: at a buddy's house, and it was just there and
- 38:53Speaker 2: we jumped in and we still haven't said a word.
- 38:56Speaker 2: We jumped in the car, We drove to my house,
- 39:00Speaker 2: we went inside. I locked the door for the first
- 39:03Speaker 2: time I think in my life, Like I at that point,
- 39:07Speaker 2: I never cared to lock my door. We didn't have.
- 39:11Speaker 2: I'm not that worried. Even if somebody did come in,
- 39:13Speaker 2: that's that's on them what I might do. But uh, yeah,
- 39:18Speaker 2: I locked the door because I was that scared, and
- 39:20Speaker 2: I just sat down, shaken and lit up a cigarette.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Finally he did the same thing, and we just sat
- 39:27Speaker 2: sat there for probably ten minutes, not even saying a word,
- 39:30Speaker 2: like we should have been, Like, what was that what
- 39:34Speaker 2: do you remember anything? But we just sat there like quiet,
- 39:39Speaker 2: like we just witnessed something that crazy, I guess. And
- 39:44Speaker 2: after ten minutes, Dinas finally says what the hell was that?
- 39:49Speaker 2: He was like because he didn't get to see what
- 39:51Speaker 2: I seen. I was facing that way when it stepped
- 39:54Speaker 2: out and he was His exact words were, either dinosaurs
- 39:59Speaker 2: are real and they're still live because of all the
- 40:02Speaker 2: tree break and everything when it ran towards us and
- 40:04Speaker 2: then the roar, or that's Bigfoot back there, and it
- 40:09Speaker 2: really doesn't make sense for Bigfoot to show up in
- 40:12Speaker 2: that little I don't know how big the park actually
- 40:17Speaker 2: is itself. I know the lake's only like ten acres,
- 40:20Speaker 2: but it just doesn't make sense to me for Bigfoot
- 40:24Speaker 2: the chance being seen, or at that point, I thought
- 40:28Speaker 2: maybe Bigfoot could be stopped by bullets, So I was thinking,
- 40:32Speaker 2: why would he even risk being shock because everybody's got
- 40:35Speaker 2: guns in the town yea, and show up there. But
- 40:38Speaker 2: I think it was possibly connected to me, just like
- 40:43Speaker 2: the ahwahs and the from me falling out of a
- 40:46Speaker 2: tree later on. That's what I come up with.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Anyway, some questions about this. You were talking about this
- 40:54Speaker 1: you could see in one spot and not another. Could
- 40:57Speaker 1: you like go into detail about that a little bit,
- 40:59Speaker 1: because I'm I'm a bit confused all the little details
- 41:04Speaker 1: about it.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the asphalt trail and I'm looking to
- 41:08Speaker 2: my left and I'm scanning the woods because I can
- 41:10Speaker 2: see pretty good. I got good vision, especially in the
- 41:12Speaker 2: dark even and I was thinking, man, I wish I
- 41:16Speaker 2: had a flashlight, but I'm like scanning and looking as
- 41:20Speaker 2: hard as I can, as far as I can in
- 41:22Speaker 2: the woods. And then that's when I noticed that it
- 41:25Speaker 2: was like the size of a train cart box and
- 41:27Speaker 2: it looked like a suspended black curtain. Like, Okay, it
- 41:32Speaker 2: was like a rectangular box.
- 41:35Speaker 1: What do you mean by suspending it was off the ground.
- 41:38Speaker 2: Well, no, I guess it suspended would be a bad
- 41:41Speaker 2: describing word. But it was just like there was nothing
- 41:44Speaker 2: above where this uh shadow was.
- 41:49Speaker 1: I guess it's it's rectangular and shape.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a black shadow. And that was
- 41:55Speaker 2: like I've heard other shows where they've talked about like
- 41:58Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard, like the Metal Projects.
- 42:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gentleman.
- 42:03Speaker 2: When I heard that, it was like it was giving
- 42:05Speaker 2: me chills because I was like, man, that's very similar
- 42:10Speaker 2: to what to what I seen.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Yeah, his name is missing me right now. I can't
- 42:14Speaker 1: think of his name, but yes, the Meadow Project, of course. Yeah.
- 42:18Speaker 2: And like I said, I talked about this probably maybe
- 42:22Speaker 2: even ten years ago on a call in live show
- 42:26Speaker 2: for like the Paranormal and stuff, and I just sounded
- 42:30Speaker 2: to me, to myself, I just sounded so crazy because
- 42:33Speaker 2: I'm trying to describe this bigfoot encounter without telling him
- 42:38Speaker 2: that I was there to steal a slide that they
- 42:40Speaker 2: were thrown away. And then I'm trying to describe this
- 42:44Speaker 2: black shadow curtain that no one's really heard about or
- 42:48Speaker 2: talked about. I'm describing the noises that the metal banging
- 42:53Speaker 2: noises and the scraping noises, like it was almost mechanical,
- 42:57Speaker 2: even though it wasn't.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Yeah, the met met a project with Trey Hudson. I
- 43:01Speaker 1: have had Trey Hudson, that's his name.
- 43:04Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I know that was a show.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Yes, it was a great one.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Yeah. I just felt like I was like, I'm getting closer,
- 43:12Speaker 2: somebody's on the trail, but I don't. I don't know
- 43:15Speaker 2: why that was over there, but I have a feeling
- 43:18Speaker 2: that this whole thing happened because of me, and the
- 43:22Speaker 2: fact that we were going to do it two different
- 43:25Speaker 2: nights that we canceled or called off, and then we
- 43:28Speaker 2: end up doing this the third night that we try
- 43:30Speaker 2: to do it, we end up back there. Makes me
- 43:33Speaker 2: wonder if it would even happen if we would have
- 43:36Speaker 2: done it one of the other nights.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just weird. Yeah, that's something you'll never know.
- 43:42Speaker 1: So you're saying that. Then the Sasquatchton came out of
- 43:45Speaker 1: this like this like a.
- 43:48Speaker 2: It was almost like a stepped out of a bunker.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Because when it did it, like when I seen the
- 43:52Speaker 2: mask in front of it, that wasn't completely it was black,
- 43:56Speaker 2: but it was like gray black almost almost like to
- 44:01Speaker 2: where it was a different color. But then, like I said,
- 44:03Speaker 2: when it stepped out of it, this thing was only
- 44:05Speaker 2: eight or six or eight foot tall. It looked like
- 44:09Speaker 2: the rectangle box, but it looked like when it stepped out.
- 44:12Speaker 2: At first I seen the head above like there was
- 44:16Speaker 2: a hedge silhouette above this box now where it was
- 44:20Speaker 2: only six or eight foot tall. And then it came
- 44:23Speaker 2: into view more as it it came towards us and
- 44:27Speaker 2: then stopped to roar.
- 44:29Speaker 1: Wow. And you also said, once it after it bluff
- 44:32Speaker 1: charged you and stopped that it looked like it expanded.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Could you maybe tell me it.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Almost looked like it puffed up like when I was
- 44:40Speaker 2: looking at like grew bigger and then taller, even like
- 44:45Speaker 2: like it was like it was almost hunched over. Stopped
- 44:50Speaker 2: the motion and then either it got bigger or stood
- 44:54Speaker 2: up fully the rest of the way. I'm not sure.
- 44:56Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was like kind of you know when
- 44:58Speaker 1: you run really fast, you kind of lean forward, you
- 45:01Speaker 1: know a little bit.
- 45:02Speaker 2: Maybe something like when like how it stepped out. It
- 45:05Speaker 2: made me wonder if that was like it was hunched
- 45:08Speaker 2: over that it was almost like somebody stepped out of
- 45:10Speaker 2: a bunker and then had head clearance to lift their
- 45:13Speaker 2: head up.
- 45:14Speaker 1: This is incredible, may Day. How do you and so? So?
- 45:18Speaker 1: What what did your Dennis? What did Dennis describe to
- 45:21Speaker 1: you once you get back to the house, What did
- 45:23Speaker 1: he tell you about what he was?
- 45:26Speaker 2: Yeah, he don't He really don't like to talk about
- 45:28Speaker 2: it at all. I mean, I've tried to get more
- 45:31Speaker 2: out of him, even though I know he wasn't looking
- 45:34Speaker 2: that way at first and he didn't have the best vision.
- 45:37Speaker 2: He just remembers the roar, and okay, thought, man, either
- 45:41Speaker 2: dinosaurs are real is what he said, and they're back
- 45:43Speaker 2: there in Lemon Lake or that was Bigfoot. That was
- 45:47Speaker 2: his exact words. And I I was like, you didn't.
- 45:51Speaker 2: You didn't see that, you didn't And he was like no,
- 45:53Speaker 2: he's just like I started running after you took off
- 45:56Speaker 2: and it roared and I'm sorry, man, I was like
- 45:59Speaker 2: I when I turned left, I launched track of him
- 46:02Speaker 2: because he was on my right. It scared me so bad.
- 46:06Speaker 2: It startled me so bad that I completely forgot that
- 46:09Speaker 2: he was even with me. I thought I was running alone.
- 46:12Speaker 2: And it felt very surreal when I was running. Okay,
- 46:16Speaker 2: it felt like I was running full speed, but it
- 46:19Speaker 2: just felt so surreal, like like a dream almost, or
- 46:24Speaker 2: almost like I wished it was a dream, but it did.
- 46:27Speaker 2: It felt that way, like you're.
- 46:29Speaker 1: Like you're running in slow motion kind of even though
- 46:31Speaker 1: you're trying to go as fast as you can.
- 46:32Speaker 2: Or you ever seen The Big Lebowski, Yeah, where Jeff
- 46:38Speaker 2: Bridges gets the arrested and he's got the cop behind
- 46:41Speaker 2: him and Jackie Treehorn drugs him.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Oh, well that's all the time ago I know the movie.
- 46:48Speaker 2: Well, he's running in front of the cop and he's
- 46:50Speaker 2: like almost imagining these people that that were after him
- 46:55Speaker 2: or whatever, the Nihilists or whatever. Yeah, the cop behind him,
- 46:59Speaker 2: and he still running and it just doesn't feel real.
- 47:02Speaker 2: Is exactly how that felt. It felt like I like
- 47:08Speaker 2: I either shouldn't be there or I don't know, I
- 47:12Speaker 2: don't I really don't know how to describe that that point,
- 47:15Speaker 2: other than.
- 47:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whole thing, the whole thing.
- 47:19Speaker 2: It's real like, and I, like I said, I'm running
- 47:22Speaker 2: full speed, and I'm thinking, man, I thought in my head,
- 47:25Speaker 2: I gotta be like beating it. I wish I had
- 47:28Speaker 2: like a fitbit on or something so I could record
- 47:31Speaker 2: it how fast I was running. I mean, I was
- 47:34Speaker 2: I'm a fast runner, but I was like, man, I'm
- 47:37Speaker 2: this is the fastest I ever ran in my life
- 47:39Speaker 2: from this adrenaline screaming.
- 47:42Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry once again, James. When you heard the screaming,
- 47:46Speaker 1: you heard it coming from two or three different locations.
- 47:50Speaker 2: Two different locations, and those weren't connected to the noise
- 47:56Speaker 2: that came charging towards us. And then what stepped out
- 47:58Speaker 2: of the bunker, So I don't know that was three
- 48:01Speaker 2: for sure, there was three things out there with us,
- 48:04Speaker 2: But I don't know if there was even a fourth one,
- 48:06Speaker 2: but I feel like possibly after learning what I learned
- 48:11Speaker 2: later on years that maybe they were female bigfoot and
- 48:15Speaker 2: the male was protecting them, or they were juveniles and
- 48:18Speaker 2: the mom was protecting them and we were too close.
- 48:21Speaker 2: But for some reason, my gut feeling tells me that
- 48:26Speaker 2: later on that that it was all this happened was
- 48:30Speaker 2: because of me, Like my frequency allowed.
- 48:34Speaker 1: Changed, It might have changed, you know, like something. Did
- 48:39Speaker 1: you hit your head?
- 48:41Speaker 2: Uh? No, I was caught. I explained that on the
- 48:43Speaker 2: first show, I fell out of the tree and uh,
- 48:45Speaker 2: I was climbing, climbing with tree spikes on, and uh
- 48:49Speaker 2: the rope actually saved me. I didn't kick, and I
- 48:52Speaker 2: knew I was dead. The right's going to hit the
- 48:54Speaker 2: ground head first. And when the rope wrapped my leg,
- 48:58Speaker 2: I was never kicking my legs. I was never screaming.
- 49:00Speaker 2: I was just like this was dumb, and this out
- 49:03Speaker 2: ands And then all of a sudden, maybe twenty feet
- 49:07Speaker 2: from the ground, thirty feet from the ground, I feel
- 49:10Speaker 2: burning on my leg, like a burning sensation, and it
- 49:13Speaker 2: left that candy cane bruise from the rope wrapping my
- 49:16Speaker 2: leg three times, which to me is impossible to do.
- 49:20Speaker 1: I don't think you told me that, buddy, I don't.
- 49:22Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Maybe maybe because I think I yeah,
- 49:26Speaker 1: maybe my members felling me, and if it is, then.
- 49:28Speaker 2: The street ball. But I think that set me on
- 49:30Speaker 2: my path to all this weird stuff happened, because it
- 49:34Speaker 2: continued to happen after that point, Like Okay, the UFO experience,
- 49:39Speaker 2: which I'm not sure if I if I told that
- 49:42Speaker 2: happened in ninety ninety nine. I believe it was ninety nine.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Well, we can we can do that at another time.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Maybe we can do that at a different time if
- 49:50Speaker 1: you're you know, if you're willing, of course. But I
- 49:52Speaker 1: wanted to get back to the sound that you heard.
- 49:54Speaker 1: Oh now I've heard this once before from Martin Groves.
- 50:01Speaker 1: If you guys will know, go back to Tony Markle's
- 50:03Speaker 1: podcast The Metal the Confessionals, with the metal scraping against concrete.
- 50:08Speaker 1: As soon as you said that, that's where my brain went.
- 50:10Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a sewer. It's reminded me of
- 50:12Speaker 2: like if you do drug a sewer liter across the road.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Okay, yes, noise and then.
- 50:21Speaker 2: The chack waves were hitting every thirty seconds to a
- 50:24Speaker 2: minute in between the scraping noise you were getting, I
- 50:29Speaker 2: don't know, that was like a poral opening and more
- 50:33Speaker 2: of these things coming experience screaming noise that was already happened.
- 50:37Speaker 2: And then like I said, what what was screaming? Sounded
- 50:41Speaker 2: not human?
- 50:42Speaker 1: Yeah it did.
- 50:43Speaker 2: It did to a point of reasoning to try to
- 50:45Speaker 2: cope and reason. But then when the second one started up,
- 50:48Speaker 2: I was like, man, that is not a one.
- 50:50Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this whole thing is a large misunderstanding where
- 50:54Speaker 1: you know Bigfoot is working for parks of recreation.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Right, Well, I thought that people that live up by
- 51:01Speaker 2: the gate that I figured for sure they called the cops.
- 51:04Speaker 2: I figured at least on average maybe ten or more
- 51:07Speaker 2: people their windows probably would have rattled. But you hear
- 51:11Speaker 2: stories of like crampis where the kids are screaming and
- 51:14Speaker 2: the parents can't hear their screams. Is what makes me think, like, like,
- 51:21Speaker 2: I'm I guess. Josh Sheerner describes it pretty good where
- 51:25Speaker 2: he come up with it's almost like a pocket reality,
- 51:28Speaker 2: even though you're right where you're at, and they almost
- 51:31Speaker 2: like almost like you stepped into a different dimension and
- 51:37Speaker 2: everything's still the same.
- 51:38Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they like they somehow they're able to encapsulate
- 51:41Speaker 1: you within the reality that wants you to be in.
- 51:43Speaker 2: I don't know like how big you're into science, but uh,
- 51:48Speaker 2: the in space or whatever is a vacuum. And they
- 51:52Speaker 2: said no sound can escape a vacuum. And it makes
- 51:55Speaker 2: me think that somehow they're creating some kind of vacuum
- 52:00Speaker 2: when they do these portals to where other people aren't
- 52:04Speaker 2: aren't intervening when whatever's happening. Wow, like you're trapped in there,
- 52:10Speaker 2: and whether they take you, you may not come back
- 52:12Speaker 2: to where you're at. But it was that that thing
- 52:16Speaker 2: screamed or roared so loud that I thought for sure
- 52:20Speaker 2: the cops were going to be there, and I was
- 52:21Speaker 2: like racking my brain thinking, and I don't have anything
- 52:23Speaker 2: in my hand at this point, so I can't remember
- 52:27Speaker 2: why I was even back there. I was just like
- 52:29Speaker 2: many basically like delivery is at that point, just trying
- 52:34Speaker 2: to run as fast as I could away from from
- 52:37Speaker 2: that area. Like I said, Dennis doesn't like to talk
- 52:41Speaker 2: about it. Even with Josh and the Isle, he doesn't
- 52:44Speaker 2: like to talk about it. I've had him both because
- 52:46Speaker 2: we're all friends, had them both in the same room,
- 52:49Speaker 2: and I've kind of tried to put both the encounters
- 52:52Speaker 2: together to like find it and and what I get
- 52:59Speaker 2: not and shakes of the head out of them instead
- 53:01Speaker 2: of talking, yeah, this is traumatic and yeah, kind of
- 53:06Speaker 2: just like either neither head or shake their head no,
- 53:09Speaker 2: instead of like saying, this is what I remember, let's
- 53:13Speaker 2: try to figure this out. He just yeah, man, I
- 53:16Speaker 2: mean after that, I was scared to be in my
- 53:18Speaker 2: backyard at night, even though I don't I live probably
- 53:22Speaker 2: at that point, I lived probably a mile away from
- 53:26Speaker 2: where the owl happened, and I lived probably two miles
- 53:30Speaker 2: away from where this happened, So I was scared to
- 53:33Speaker 2: be outside once it was dark for quite a few years.
- 53:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very common occurrence.
- 53:38Speaker 2: But I want to be on the back porch even
- 53:40Speaker 2: I felt like something was going to jump out of
- 53:42Speaker 2: the trees or come and get me.
- 53:45Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a it takes a lot of fortitude
- 53:48Speaker 1: to even come forward to I mean, we know each other,
- 53:50Speaker 1: but we don't know each other. You don't know me
- 53:52Speaker 1: like that, and I don't know you like that, But
- 53:54Speaker 1: that you come on and say that, I hope, in
- 53:57Speaker 1: some weird way it helps a little bit and I
- 54:00Speaker 1: just want to tell you that I believe you, man,
- 54:02Speaker 1: because you're not the only one with these stories.
- 54:04Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, but yeah, to me, the connection was maybe
- 54:09Speaker 2: falling out of that tree that day, and the all
- 54:16Speaker 2: comes back into play later on too, even further down
- 54:21Speaker 2: the road where I described it to somebody that I
- 54:25Speaker 2: became friends with probably five six years ago, and we
- 54:32Speaker 2: decided to go fishing, and I limit my my my
- 54:39Speaker 2: time out in the woods, especially at that point, especially
- 54:42Speaker 2: like at dark or somewhere away from the house. I
- 54:44Speaker 2: just I know I'm a magnet for weird stuff. So
- 54:48Speaker 2: my good friends know that that's something could probably happen.
- 54:52Speaker 2: People that I'm not that good friends with. I don't
- 54:55Speaker 2: tell them all my paranormal or any of my paranormal experiences,
- 54:58Speaker 2: and then they find out the hard way, which.
- 55:03Speaker 1: You want to, but you want to have friends to
- 55:06Speaker 1: do stuff with, but if you tell them, they won't go.
- 55:08Speaker 1: So that Oh my god, dude.
- 55:12Speaker 2: I moved out of Cedar Lake after that, and uh,
- 55:19Speaker 2: where I move is in the city, and I'm thinking, man,
- 55:21Speaker 2: I'm safe here. There's there's violence, there's gangs, there's guns
- 55:26Speaker 2: and everything, but I feel safer somehow here than I
- 55:30Speaker 2: did in that town.
- 55:31Speaker 1: I understand, I really do.
- 55:34Speaker 2: I was in the I was injured and I wasn't
- 55:40Speaker 2: able to work for a while because of the neck injury.
- 55:42Speaker 2: And my grandpa had a house still left in Gary,
- 55:45Speaker 2: and he was like, I'll tell you what, and he's
- 55:48Speaker 2: a roof and work done to it, but you can
- 55:51Speaker 2: have it. So I was like, okay. So that that
- 55:54Speaker 2: helped me like catch up to where and I had
- 55:57Speaker 2: my my son was born, my first son, So I
- 56:00Speaker 2: was like that that's gonna help big not having to
- 56:04Speaker 2: be out there working in the elements and trying to
- 56:07Speaker 2: find rent money and stuff like that. So the first
- 56:10Speaker 2: night I'm there, I'm standing out on the porch and
- 56:14Speaker 2: there isn't very all the houses are building, but buildings
- 56:18Speaker 2: and houses that were near were this house as my
- 56:20Speaker 2: grandpa has uh they gave me there have been knocked
- 56:26Speaker 2: down or burnt, knocked down and cleared away. So there
- 56:29Speaker 2: really wasn't too many houses, even though I was in
- 56:31Speaker 2: a bad area like near me, I'm outside, I'm outside
- 56:35Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette and I don't At this point, I
- 56:37Speaker 2: haven't deep dived into the Internet looking for answers as
- 56:41Speaker 2: far as like Bigfoot paranormal or anything. I'm not I'm
- 56:45Speaker 2: not even into that. And uh, I'm outside smoking a
- 56:49Speaker 2: cigarette by myself. It's late. I just moved a bunch
- 56:52Speaker 2: of stuff from where I was living to my new
- 56:55Speaker 2: house and across the street in the dark. At first,
- 57:00Speaker 2: I was like, man, that's a big dog. Because I'm
- 57:03Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette, I'm thinking, who the hell that's the dog?
- 57:06Speaker 2: That big run I'm thinking that, like, I'm on the
- 57:11Speaker 2: porch near the door, but this dog that looks like
- 57:16Speaker 2: a wolf. I'm not saying that it was a dog, man,
- 57:20Speaker 2: but I'm just sitting an upright canine or whatever. But
- 57:22Speaker 2: this dog, I'm thinking, Man, I know there could be
- 57:25Speaker 2: coyotes around, like because of the train tracks, but there ain't
- 57:30Speaker 2: no wolves in Gary. In the end, and it looked
- 57:35Speaker 2: like even like it looked like what people describe as
- 57:39Speaker 2: like a timber wolf. FA's house. It cuts across the street,
- 57:43Speaker 2: doesn't even look at me, cuts across the street, goes
- 57:46Speaker 2: up to the one house left on the end, and uh,
- 57:51Speaker 2: I can't see it stand up, but it weans up
- 57:54Speaker 2: and it somehow flips the lid on like a big
- 57:56Speaker 2: like you know, the wheel garbage cans with the lid.
- 57:59Speaker 2: The big swirling it flips the lid, so I couldn't
- 58:02Speaker 2: tell whether it used its nose or it's paul or what.
- 58:06Speaker 2: But it flips the lid, and it's so big that
- 58:08Speaker 2: it's able to stand up and dip its head into
- 58:11Speaker 2: the garbage can and it's just eating. And then I'm thinking, like, damn,
- 58:16Speaker 2: I'm not coming outside again to smoke a cigarette without
- 58:19Speaker 2: a gun. And that point, it lifted its head up
- 58:23Speaker 2: and it looked at me. When I was thinking that,
- 58:26Speaker 2: I guess it popped its head out of the garbage
- 58:28Speaker 2: can whatever is looking for and it looked at me.
- 58:31Speaker 2: And that was enough to scare me to run and
- 58:33Speaker 2: throw my cigarette and run inside. And I'm just driving
- 58:36Speaker 2: it to my ex wife at the time, and she's
- 58:39Speaker 2: just like, she don't know what to think. I'm telling
- 58:42Speaker 2: her about all this stuff that's happening that she's not witnessing,
- 58:46Speaker 2: other than the owl flying in front of her car
- 58:49Speaker 2: when before my son was born and she was pregnant
- 58:52Speaker 2: with him, it flew in front of her car driving.
- 58:55Speaker 2: But yeah, I was like, man, I moved to the city.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it's already happening again. I'm not trying to be
- 59:06Speaker 1: rude or anything. We did start quite a bit later
- 59:08Speaker 1: than I expected, and I do have another show coming
- 59:11Speaker 1: up soon and I gotta.
- 59:12Speaker 2: Get Man, I'm sorry if you have trouble.
- 59:15Speaker 1: No, dude, no trouble at all. Are you kidding me?
- 59:17Speaker 1: It's it's it's been my pleasure. I mean, we can
- 59:19Speaker 1: come back on and talk about any and everything you want,
- 59:21Speaker 1: anytime you want. Whenever time reaches you.
- 59:24Speaker 2: It's it doesn't stop there, it just keeps.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we'll start from there. We'll pick up from there.
- 59:33Speaker 1: If that's okay with you, man, I'll have you on.
- 59:35Speaker 1: We'll bump it down the road however you want, man,
- 59:37Speaker 1: whenever you can, just let me know, okay, okay, all right.
- 59:41Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on and sharing this with me.
- 59:43Speaker 2: Man. If you got opening on the twentieth, I'll come
- 59:46Speaker 2: back on.
- 59:48Speaker 1: Pick a quick look. See let's take a quick look. See.
- 59:51Speaker 2: No, that was when we were originally scheduled.
- 59:53Speaker 1: So yeah, we can definitely do it. It'll be at
- 59:58Speaker 1: seven pm my time. What do you East coast or central, Central, Central, Yeah,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: it'd be seven o'clock in the evening. You'd probably be
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: done with work or whatever, or you know, maybe You're
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: still a home who knows, and I'll be back on Man,
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: We'll do it again.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: Okay, sorry buddy, I appreciate it.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So we are the Eye. We are aware.
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