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Bears Over Beers: 18 vs. "9" In Minneapolis · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Wednesday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what that means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another addition of bears over bears presented by Second City Gridiron.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Ryan Drosty here with my good friend Brian Ornchuk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To talk a little Chicago bears to drink a beer or two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how it goes tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please make sure to subscribe and hit that five star rating while you're listening, Brian, how's it going tonight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go and great, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy Wednesday, Happy Bears Overbears Day for all that celebrate and excited, excited to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First, rematch of the season with the divisional rival and it's a big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to chopping it up with you and first and foremost, hearing about what you're drinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you want me to go first this week?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a special trip to the liquor store tonight, Brian, because I saw that this had hit the shelves again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it every winter, multiple times, one of my favorites.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me go solo layout so you can see it all here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Sierra Nevada's Celebration IPA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fresh hop IPA every year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so delicious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many years I've been getting 15.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a long, long time, probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an all-time classic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Got kind of an amber color to it for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some Carmelie notes to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had this year's yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, 6.8% I also did pick up a porter as hinted on the show last week, Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe I'll break that one open next week because I got a little, well, jealous when you're drinking that porter last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My taste buds will let up a little bit when I saw a nice porter at the liquor store and I'm like, I gotta get one of those for a future episode as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But tonight it's a, it's Sierra Nevada celebration, the 2025 edition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: nice excited to hear how you like that that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's funny how you how you kind of mixed it up a little bit and you know you got a port of you're going to you're going to save for next time as I mentioned last week I went to a beer release special release of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: but I'm not drinking it tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to save it for a colder outdoor game, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually did snow here yesterday, it was in the teens, really chilly, but it's warmed up quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever it gets warm, I always kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: decide to go with it with an IPA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for tonight, I've got a new Belgian classic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a voodoo Ranger Imperial IPA in a bottle and it's a 9% got Delta Bravo, Centennial Cascade, Calipso and Mosaic Hopps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a classic and of course got my bears overbears glass poured into, so yeah nice crisp refreshing like I said 9% so they just felt you know felt it's still kind of hanging on to to summer a little bit the fall and.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not quite cold enough for me to go to the cold mountain, although it was beautiful on Saturday when we went, I told you we went for anniversary, great time, and it was nice and chilly, food trucks galore, actually ran into a band member of a band that performed on our wedding almost 15 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing his own thing now, so that was really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't remember us, but you remember the venue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you vaguely remember us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, romance is in the air, the bears are in the air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seasons are a change in, but a good IPA, as you and I are testing to this Eve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and always dependable, companion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So cheers, my man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers, I got the glass as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can very do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like you got the coosy there too, wrapped around the glass very nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I like to freeze my glasses and actually had this hand made for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it at a, when I was a teacher, there's a little holiday craft fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, these are bear's colors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I picked it up and, yeah, I really pair as well with this bear's a bear's last, so I'm digging it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's talking to the boss man, Lester.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've sold a few of these glasses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely sold some of the rocks glasses as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The bourbon or the bears over bourbon, rocks glass, available on our store too, link in the description here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: looking very nice and you know I still have the deal going I'm going to keep it open Brian I sent out the first ones yesterday in fact of our listeners who have been tweeting us pictures selfies of them you know listening to the show or taking a picture of their apple car play in the car whatever tweeting that bears over beers
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a few people doing that, and I sent you the pick for the other day, the die cut stickers are in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I put it up on our Twitter page as well, and so you want to get in on that, make me address a few more envelopes, tweet us a picture of you listening this show, at bears, overbears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get you that free sticker in the mail, put it on whatever you want, put it on the back of your laptop, put it on your beer glass, make your own pint glass, put it on your forehead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, but we'll send it to you, and you can join in on the fun, so get those
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[SPEAKER_00]: to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right Ryan, usually what we do here is we start by talking about the most recent game and for what now six of the last seven games they've been victories for our Chicago Bears and we're coming off another one this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's all Brian.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every time Brian wears a jersey on the show, the bear somehow find a way to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, all these comebacks, what five come back wins for Caleb and the offense this year, Brian's every single time has been wearing a jersey on bears overbears the one time he skipped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the Walter Payton jersey on tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be talking about Vikings game coming up here in a little bit, but Anything you want to express about this this past weekend's victory over the New York football giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was extremely frustrated watching the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we let the Giants hang around far too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We let them move the ball far too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jackson, Dart, destroyed us on the ground and in the air, more than I would have liked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we saw how the end played out with Caleb, who really has got to be one of the most clutch quarterbacks in the league right now at least in our division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd love to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, Ryan,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We knew that this was the end of our winnable stretch of games, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all winnable, but these we really had kind of expected or hoped to win most of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we played some sloppy ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, our guy, her power, if he's one of the local beat guys, he called a lot of slack for a tweet that he made that was being constructively criticizing towards the bear's performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People said, oh, you didn't like what Caleb did, and he wasn't right about Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually agree with her in that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And nothing to do with Caleb is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe he's our quarterback, but when it comes to our football team, we can't continue to play sloppy football and win games against good teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know we've got injuries, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that, but bro, I don't ever remember watching a game with so many drops on offense number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, handy capping us, it was our own hands, handy capping us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was super frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams continue to be an issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on defense, I get it, we have injuries, but way too much space in the passing game, especially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the designated runs and they were well-skinned up and darts and athlete, but what pissed me off, man, was seeing these guys wide open and dart,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, granted, you know, tie-req, you let up a couple of big plays to Darious Slaton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was decent coverage for the most part, but these guys running Scott Free, that can't happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we're coming up against the Vikings who have arguably the top two receivers in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, top, you know, top two or three in the league, receiver units.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw one against the bangles and they put up like 700 yards against us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to turn it around, man, you know, and I appreciate it how we lowered the penalties.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But gosh, it'd be nice to play a complete football game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, my blood pressure would certainly like it if the Chicago Bears could win in a blowout.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really thought, you know, we did the predictions last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really thought that this was a game that they could win in blowout fashion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think my prediction was like 34, 17.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And God, it was just, I was already like mentally watching it just as that game progress just preparing to take the L to a bad team, missing two or three best offensive players, you know, and then dark gets hurt too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like, how can this be happening right now at home?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to contend for a wild card?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't lose these games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then somehow,
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[SPEAKER_00]: find a way to win, but I mean, the drops were egregious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Lester had a tweet up I think today about how, let me just see if I could pull it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I had it pulled up maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Something about the ultimate test for if people know ball should be, you know, how they rate Caleb Williams right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't read this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was as weak ten performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How they rate his weak ten performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he said, the do you know ball test in 2025 should be asking someone for their take on Caleb Williams?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because yeah, I mean, like if you're stat watching and you're just looking at the box score, what was Caleb like 2036 something like that, but you like you had it in your in your notes and you know, I was turning it to it was like at least eight, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, I lost my camera, which is definitely a 20 of 36, 20 of 36, at least eight drops, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise my camera will be back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, now I lost my train thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, he six confirmed drops, but I counted at least two or three more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Zikias, who has been so reliable this year,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and for him to be the guy dropping all those passes time and time again, you know, dropping What should have been a touchdown just a beautiful pass by Caleb down the right side line in the corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, unbelievable throw should have been a touchdown all day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one to DJ to an end zone, which was definitely a harder catch, but he could he could have had that one too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so Caleb could have had three touchdown passers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could have ran one in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You should have had over 300 yards passing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm yeah, I want him saying as you look at the box girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, some of these division rivals that aren't watching the games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, he's still pretty mid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, no, man, he played a hell of a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was on real in that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously the way that he was, you know, escaping pressure that reel that the team put out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the black and white to make it look like an old-time silent picture that was awesome work by the way Chicago Bears team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, yeah, you can't say more about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like the receivers were letting him down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew a few on at least we're getting those pre-snap penalties fixed right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still some agregiously called ones and not called ones
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the defense was extremely problematic, and we'll do our predictions here in a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not feeling great about this game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bearish have a good chance to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just the depth issues in the secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the talent that they have in the wide receiver room in Minnesota, and then you got Jefferson coming off of like one of
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be looking to show out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know, man, this is something really interesting discussion when we get to the Vikings, but yeah, I mean, obviously, CNS come from behind when was thrilling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should have solidly beat the teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, the narrative continues at the bears who are just beating bad teams and not looking great in doing it, which I understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I understand that take, they got to prove that they can beat the good teams too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, some of the teams we've beat were seen as good at the time and have fallen apart like Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh but uh yeah I mean this is this is the stretch on the schedule where you know it's gonna get a little bit harder this is winnable definitely Pittsburgh's winnable and then we you know we start getting into the gauntlet a little bit although Philly wins to the north or not looking great and Philly's looking easier to beat the last year that's for sure yeah I mean here's a thing as as you can see if you watch
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the NFL, any team can win, that's why that's the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we see it, like the dolphins,
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[SPEAKER_01]: eliminated me from my survival pool because I was like, all the bills were going to win this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the dolphins beat arguably the hottest team in the league at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other night, you know, Philly looked average and Green Bay looked average.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Philly squeaked out a win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this is what happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints beat the Panthers, the Panthers beat the Packers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this sort of thing, you got to win, you got to win period in this league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these guys understand how hard it is to get a win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just would like to see some sound football play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it doesn't have to be a blowout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just give me a clean, clean hard fought game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Both sides were both sides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's one thing for Justin Jefferson to get his yards, get his touchdowns, and what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Kevin O'Connor who's a fantastic coach to do his damage in the schemes that they run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing to shoot yourselves in the foot with drop passes, with penalties, with misassimements, with mis tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been really discouraging, but at the end of the day, man, a win in this league is a big deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all the people clamoring that we haven't beaten anyone yet,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can only play who's on your schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these same teams that we are beating are beating another good teams or giving them run for their money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've come out on top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we definitely have to win this one because they already beat us once this year to open the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a divisional game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you saw that statistic where
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[SPEAKER_01]: the likelihood, the probabilities of us making the playoffs with a win versus a loss here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a dramatic difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like over 50%, 70% or something, like 60% if we beat them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we lose, it's like 20% or less.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget what it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm crazy like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But because it's a divisional opponent, we're 0 and 2 right now in division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we need this win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and uh, yeah, but we'll get to that in a minute, but end of the day a win is a win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I'm just glad that we're stacking some wins man to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're playing relevant football heading into December, which is huge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, winning the games that you should win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's something to be said for that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd like them to be more convincing, obviously, but they're still winning them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, as far as like the percentages for the playoffs that you're talking about, everything, I mean, what it comes down to here for the bearers is they got to prove that they can win a division game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every time the those standings come up on the screen, it just really jumps out the O12 in the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and obviously with Minnesota, that's when they let get away from them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they dominated three quarters of that game, and then just totally fell apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, this is a chance for that team to feel like they
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jackson Dart looks really good throughout the obviously the receivers getting open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got big time problems in this secondary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some encouraging news out there with, you know, the photos of Jalen training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, obviously it's looking more and more like he could make a return late in the season if the bears are in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if the team God forbid falls apart down the stretch, there's no reason for him to come back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they're in the mix, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're hoping next week would be the first time Kyler could come off of IR if he's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that might be wishful thinking, but at least he'd be eligible by then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're still tracking TJ and everything happened in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll see and we'll talk about Minnesota in a second, but they got a couple of health notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about I think too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, obviously New York, they were banged up big time and, you know, we dodged a bullet not playing some of their best scope position players, but up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we took out their head coach yet again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it seems like, and I don't know the stats on it, but it does seem weird like that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2019, 2021 and now, 2025, the Giants lost at Chicago and then ended up firing their headcoach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably thanking us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who their coach is 2021?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure and judge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I sent, I could pull it up quickly because I saw tweet about it, and I sent it to a body of mine, Frank, who's a big-time giant fan actually lives up there, and, uh...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, so if I'm going by the pattern, the giants will lose to the bears in 2031 and fire the coach then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, Greg.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I felt good to get the victory, definitely concerns, but obviously until the bears do something convincing it as it against a team that people see as good, cold and cold, good, then the talk's going to continue of how good really is this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought you made a great point about any given Sunday
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[SPEAKER_00]: I picked up the bill's defense at fantasy football, and that was a terrible move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want the tickets to the dolphins this past week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, oh, hell yeah, I need a streaming defense of team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what the bills against the dolphins, and that sure backfired spectacularly for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and that's the thing is take a win when you can get it, especially at home, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we had to have that game and it comes down to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the division games now, like, I'm excited to see, excuse me, take two against the Vikings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First take, first game was week one, you know, we had so many new faces, completely new coaching staff, roster, scheme.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And since then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we couldn't run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember early in the season, we could not run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and since the buy, we've, we're like top two or three best running teams in the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm looking forward to seeing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But against the, against the Vikings earlier in the year,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Swift had 17 carries for 53 yards for 3.1 yard average.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DJ Moore had three carries for eight yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Common unguided and get any carries, Rochon Johnson and get any carries.
20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams was our leading rusher, six carries for 58 yards, and a touchdown.
20:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we, I think that's why I'm wearing a sweetness jersey right now.
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we have to, we have to get back to black and blue football this week, bro.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and I love what Caleb is doing.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really ecstatic about our rookie receivers, Lou Therburden and Colson love them.
20:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Those those only two guys, you know, as you saw in my notes, only two guys that I counted didn't drop a pass.
21:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:06
[SPEAKER_01]: In that game, they were, and then, and they did it in the fourth quarter when we needed them the most,
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that play that arguably the best play of our season, where Darnell Wright, Stonewalled, Brian Burns, Caleb spun out of contact, hit a man, rolling to his left, crosses body to the right and
21:26
[SPEAKER_01]: and it was close and behind him on that dart and just snagged at the air, hands catch.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It was huge.
21:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Luther burdened that gosh, that deep comeback route that he ran.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And then God next to 15 yards just barreling his head down through the defenders.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, these are clutch plays from our young guys.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love what I'm seeing in the passing game with Caleb and you know, think about it.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, if we didn't drop those passes, all of a sudden he's got 300 yards passing in three TTs.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: or something like it, but this week, I feel like it's gonna come down to running the ball.
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to run the ball and enforce our will against these Vikings.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been more susceptible on the ground lately than they were early in the season.
22:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I think some come down to then then get some play action involved with Lovelin with Bird and with Rome and go from there.
22:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the wrong game's gonna be huge this week.
22:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Minnesota, like their defenses had some issues, but the last week they played good against Baltimore for the most part, you know, like Lamar 176 yards passing, Derek Henry on the ran for 3.8 per carry, 20 carries for 75 yards.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so they contain the rush pretty well last weekend can contain Lamar.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think Lamar was only sacked once in the game though.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mistaken.
22:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to look that up.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just one time.
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But I got to say, they're carries washed.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Really washed this season to me.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw him against us.
23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He did score twice, but he had a similar yards per carry against us.
23:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just meant you mentioned fans earlier.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: and I know we've talked college running backs before.
23:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy who I think might end up replacing Derek Henry can be absolutely lethal there.
23:17
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a massive sidebar for those you listening, but talking about a wash Derek Henry who's going to go down is all one of the all-time grades.
23:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think Jeremiah love can end up in Baltimore.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he has a more similar play style matter fact than Derek Henry does.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And their straight lines speed in their prime.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, love is more agile and more nimble.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a better pass catcher by far.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty much a receiver.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He's someone who I think could you know how a lot of these college programs will just reload with talent year after year and stay at the top you'll see that much lately, but I think the raven's could do that with with Jeremiah love, I think he's a realistic manning spot unless they go on it, you know, do you play off from which I don't anticipate.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, uh, point being the ravens I think are are not, they're not scary on the ground.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Keaton Mitchell actually looks like they're best running back and you can see against the Vikings last week.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He had four characters, 31 yards.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost eight yards per carry and he did the same thing against us.
24:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if we get swift out in some space pound it with monungai who is more agile than Derek Henry.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're blocking better than them, you know, I think that's what's going to take because we didn't run it again some last week or last time we played them and yeah, I expect that to be a difference maker in this one for sure.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, let's keep talking about this Minnesota game then as we preview this here on bears overbears.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd definitely going to be some opportunities to score.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We know the bears have been putting up points this year, top 10 high scoring team in the league.
24:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to even sure what our rank is this week.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't looked up the updated rankings, but we've been top 10 pretty much scoring all year.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Since this offense got on track and
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Minnesota has given up 24 points or more in the last four games you're going to be playing on that fast track up in the US bank stadium indoor game no cold no no swirling winds no snow coming down like we had at soldier field this last week and yeah I mean I like the idea of getting the run game going and then play action and making them play down the field what do you think about
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Luther Burden playing ahead of Zacchaeus based on the game that Zacchaeus had, because Zacchaeus has been a safety valve for Caleb.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been kind of a go-to guy all year, but then he had such a bad game.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was such a bad game that on that game winning touchdown, I mean, everyone's seen it.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Zacchaeus was wide open, but Caleb decided to run it in for himself.
25:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that he saw him and he just made the choice I'm not going to give him the ball, but that's what happened.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you did make that choice, I don't blame him given all of the drops by as a key as his past weekend.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Luther burdened young guy, but I think, you know, obviously, I think the ceiling's way higher on him.
26:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I personally would rather see him getting those reps. And, you know, one game's a lot in the NFL.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, you know, you only get 17 of them.
26:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think they should move Luther burden up the depth chart.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
26:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 100% I don't even think it's a question.
26:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, that wasn't all of the mid-A's are only bad game of the year.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: His report with Caleb was built in offseason training camp.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when he was money unstoppable preseason.
26:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It looked to continue.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And since the season started, he has had his fair share of drops.
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He might have been leading the team in that regard.
26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Past couple weeks, he's kind of stepped it up and made some catches, but I forget what team it was.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the Ravens?
26:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget what team it was that he had a drop that would have been a touchdown.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of earlier on our territory.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He had some single coverage against a linebacker, Caleb hit him and stride and he just dropped it.
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: There was nobody in front of him.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he has made some bad, the point is, Luther has earned the right to skip him on the depth chart.
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't draft a guy in the early second round.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't have the talent to see the field right away.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: and granted we've got DJ Moore, we've got Roma Dune Zayne.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But Zacchaeus is not those guys.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And you look at the advanced statistics with the completion percentage, quarterback rating when targeting these guys.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Luther's at the top of the list for our whole team.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And Zacchaeus is at the bottom.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: There's really no piece of evidence to keep Zacchaeus on the field and I think we're going to see Lou Thur this week My article that comes out on Saturday referring to the players to watch.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a poll out there So hop on it and espionation if If you get a chance to see it regarding who's going to be more important and I have two rookies Lovelin and bird at this week that I think are going to be huge
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And because I expect as Ben alluded to today and again earlier this week, he is gaining trust in players that they didn't have that familiarity with the first time they played this team week one.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to imagine that Luther Burton is one of those guys, especially with what he did in the fourth quarter and loveland in the fourth quarter to come back and win that game against the giants.
28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just have to imagine he's going to be a critical piece this week, so I'm looking forward to it.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, week one, they did not belitz us as much as we thought.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I never know what floors is going to do.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm anticipating him doing that against against the Caleb Williams this week, but I expect for burden to have some more chances.
28:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the impact is that might mean he's off kickoff return, which I've been vocal about, and a blackwell was fully participating in practice today as well.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how I feel about him on kick return.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I think Bird is going to have a big game.
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is definitely earned the right to start ahead of Zacchaeus, and I think once he gets a chance dude, there's not going to be any question that anybody can even, you know, the fathom that Zacchaeus, you know, earned the keep that spot because I feel like he's going to run away with it.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no.
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: no question about it.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, according to stats I'm looking at.
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So as the Kia's has been targeted 50 times this year, officially they have them scored as having four droughts, but like we just talked about.
29:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they don't score them drops when we watch you're like, yeah.
29:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a drop.
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's caught 32 of the balls thrown at him.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got a 64% percentage caught rate, which is lower than he had last year in Washington with with 70.
29:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But he had officially five drops last year in 17 games in Washington.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got four of this year through nine games with the bear.
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think I think Luther for sure should be playing ahead of him.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I see our chat B to the right joint is joining us right now.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He agrees.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, uh,
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: promote burden even DJ is her right now.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to take the pressure off of DJ.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, 100% agree.
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that one of the things it was most disappointing to me on Sunday was how little Colston was involved in the game early.
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we we may be even texted about this and
30:28
[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of us felt like this was maybe the worst game that Ben has called as bears coach just with some of the play called choices as well.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Now once they finally got close to involved late and then Luther was getting in there then things started to turn around a little bit.
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be just seem like such a no brainer that you know on third it's definitely from what you know what I recall in Sunday.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not somewhat of a blur because I was
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like a lot of those third-down plays would have been perfect plays to be going to Coulston-Leveland, and it was like never happening.
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't going to a Medall, we were throwing short of the sticks, we were running the ball, and I'm wondering the whole game, why are we not going to Coulston-Leveland, who just had this huge breakout game and show that he's a playmaker, and then finally we get to the fourth quarter.
31:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I like your take that up in Minnesota.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be different and he's going to be a big time part of the game plan because we know, you know, his speed at his position is a big advantage for him and playing indoors at US Bank can really showcase that.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I absolutely hope that he gets some more playing time as well, although that was one of the better games I've seen Cole Comet play.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one guy I don't think actually dropped a pass.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many targets he had, maybe one or two.
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: If that, but he blocked his ass off against the giants.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think he's a better tight end to option and get, get Colson, you know, more involved, I think that would be critical.
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that's one of the things of an, and when you drop passes, especially on 3rd and 4th down, you're killing a drive.
32:04
[SPEAKER_01]: right like you can't extend the drives when that happens and and so you don't get into your bag of tricks when you don't you don't have a chance to use them um so uh you know we got it we got it we just got to hold on these balls and and and that's why I feel like they deserve their chance because they're catching them um you know their job is a catch passus and and if you can
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to the guy who can so yeah, I'm optimistic that both the rookies are going to step up and that's that's going to be honestly it's going to be one of the wrinkles.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that the Vikings will will experience this Sunday that they didn't week one is the impact of these rookies.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the the offensive line cohesiveness
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think these rookies, including one on guy, is going to be something they're going to be forced fed.
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's going to be the difference.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get into my prediction right now.
32:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to get into yours.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm thinking it's a 34-24 game.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the way that we move the ball on the ground, set up some play action.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think our offense steps up this weekend, but it's not going to be easy against a really talented Vikings offense as well.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said with Jordan Jefferson, we don't have Jalen Johnson, we don't have Collar Gordon, so I think they're going to put up some points.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think we come out with a cleaner game on offense for us.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'll talk about the quarterback right now.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really know what's going on with McCarthy.
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I texted a buddy of mine about it.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: See what's the scuttle up in Minneapolis because he lives up there.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So McCarthy supposedly, you know, like he banked up his hand in the game, he's got to, I guess, a bruise on his throwing hand.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw that, I think it was Kevin Seaford had a report out from their open portion of practice today that
33:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, McCarthy's hand was wrapped.
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: His right hand was wrapped.
34:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He was to use toss them all around his left hand, at least when the reporters were in there.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said something along and paraphrasing something along the lines of, you know, well, if this is a troll job or something, it's a pretty good one.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but even if he is healthy, I mean, McCarthy looked not good.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: He looked bad against the Ravens.
34:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was 20 of 42.
34:22
[SPEAKER_00]: He lobbed up a couple of interceptions, you know, he definitely, and he's essentially a rookie this year, you know, playing wise.
34:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And he looked every bit of that.
34:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's,
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the guy's ceiling is.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not making any like broad predictions right now, but I mean, as of right now, Caleb Williams is a far better quarterback than the McCarthy.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not close.
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And the bears definitely have the advantage when it comes to the quarterback.
34:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And usually, if the teams are fairly close and talent or how they're playing, that's gonna be your tiebreaker right there.
34:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And McCarthy's coming up just a brutal game.
34:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, they got the playmakers.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they put up points.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: They're at home.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't wound up there in a couple of years.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we've lost eight of the last nine games to Minnesota period.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about all like the past games going into week one.
35:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So you guys can check our archives.
35:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to hear about the
35:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Vikings bears history.
35:13
[SPEAKER_00]: We were pretty deep on that going back to the 90s, I think, but I mean, they've been dominant over us recently and the are only win in the last time was actually in Minnesota on that Monday night game a couple of years ago.
35:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they're going to want to get a win.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big game given where there's seasons at right now and probably what their expectations were, they still got a lot of their playmakers in there on offense.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And so.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: is J.J.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally healthy.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that it matters that much will see a bruised hand, but you know, anytime Justin Jefferson's back there and he's coming off a couple of games where he didn't play up the part that you always worry, especially when he's going up against our.
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: multiple times down the chart, down the depth chart, you know, back up corners, tie reek, by the way, tie reek is not looked like himself.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's planned with a hurt shoulder, and I think that's really hurt in his game.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, CJ has been great.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave him the game ball this week on Wendy City Girldiron in my column on defense.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been a true difference maker.
36:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever your expectations were for him when the bearers side him he has exceeded them.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I mean he has been phenomenal And so I mean I have the hope Brian that if we get some of these guys back This defense can still turn it around We definitely you know, we got to get this rush we got to get the got to rush the pass or better On Tesla's been playing better for sure Booker was pretty good two weeks ago.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of hit or missed this past week
36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, if we can dial up some pressure, blitz CJ, put some pressure on McCarthy, I think you'll get a little panicky, and we can have an advantage even with the fact that we're gonna give up some yards.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about it, given the state of our secondary right now.
36:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, no, absolutely.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But just going back to the whole only given Sunday thing, two weeks ago, the Vikings were riding high.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd just beat the Lions into Troy.
37:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And McCarthy accounted for three touchdowns in that game,
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a ball player, and that's the game when he kind of went viral for his, I forget his is alter ego in the locker room.
37:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, nine, yeah, or he was like, a lot of you've seen it, but where he was like chopping at the bit in the locker room and making all the faces and stuff and right, it's been goofy.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was in the visor locker huge win against the division rival defending division champs to Troy lines.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a team that can play.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: and he didn't throw for 300 yards, he'd not even 200 in that game, but he threw for two touchdowns, one to Jefferson, one to Hawkinson, and you ran for one as well.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He can get the job done.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was disappointed last week with how we handled Jackson Dark in the run game.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about that leading up to it.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've seen Jayden Daniels.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen Tyler Huntley.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw JJ McCarthy earlier in the year.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: All those guys are effective runners from the quarterback position.
38:12
[SPEAKER_01]: We knew Jackson was going to be, and he dominated us.
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So McCarthy is going to be, he's going to be a threat there as well.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Although he's throwing it more than he did week one against us, because he's more familiar at this point for sure.
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we're going to have to make him pay, man, both rushing the passer and then we need to get back to our turnover ways for sure, you know, with interceptions.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be absolutely critical.
38:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to one of these safety's making some plays.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But and remember talking about drops, nation on right, dropping that pick in the end.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, we've got knocked out of his hands.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe he's got it.
38:52
[SPEAKER_01]: to talk that ball away man how that was frustrating we need those sort of play we can't be dropping them this week and how sweet would it be to come away with a victory on the road against a divisional rival put us out what seven and three yeah yeah the huge seven and a three with with Pittsburgh coming to town and a match against our good friend Aaron Rogers.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be sweet.
39:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be sweet.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that you had a real chance to go to go into then Philadelphia on Black Friday at 8 and 3.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean,
39:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, again, looking at the gauntlet of the schedule that's coming down the stretch, although, again, I think some of those games are more winnable than maybe we thought at the beginning of the year.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Still, it's a tougher schedule than what we've had of late.
39:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to stack the wins where they're available here for this team.
39:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was definitely one of them given, you know, where Minnesota's been.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I am also a little bit worried about McCarthy running, you know, 48 yards against Baltimore.
39:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He could run if he has to.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That was on five carries.
39:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that we couldn't stop Jackson Dart.
39:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was going wherever he wanted.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Our Rush defense in general is not it looked for a while like we were starting to fix that because we had TJ and Kyler out there briefly.
40:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when the run defense started to look better.
40:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And now those guys are both out again.
40:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a problem.
40:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So that could be a real problem on Sunday for sure.
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I definitely don't feel like confident in a way that I did when we played the Giants.
40:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like last week on the show, I thought we'd double them up.
40:29
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a gamma.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely a little worried about.
40:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bears can win it.
40:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even should win it.
40:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a tough recall.
40:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll pick the bears to win.
40:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go 3427.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to do you say?
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I said 3424.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
40:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give them in a sort of three more points.
40:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say 3427.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think it's gonna be a nail biter.
40:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it wasn't.
40:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to have a game we won by 20 plus points feel real nice, but I don't think this is going to be that game and so Minnesota, we've talked about this on the show.
41:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we talked about this when we did the show the week of Halloween and we were talking about villains and rivals and stuff and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird because like they're a rival team, but like I said on that show, I don't have the same kind of hate for them that I do like Green Bay as a fan, not that I hate Green Bay, but like as a fan, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
41:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Wisconsin, I just don't like the Packers.
41:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm the same way.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel the same,
41:40
[SPEAKER_01]: about the Vikings as I have about the Lions for the most part, my entire life, up until recently when they've started to feel some success and get a little, you know, overzealous and and talkative on the on the interwebs, you know, it's that's been something that I've not really appreciated, but you're right, the Vikings have just been a team that you kind of respect.
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you want to beat them, but it's definitely not been that level of animosity for sure, but I mentioned John Randall for back in the day.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of one of those instigators, you know, the players that dominate the game, but, you know, he's a great player.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he was fun to watch, especially when he wasn't playing Chicago, but yeah, this team, I don't really see anybody on their team now or feel like anybody is kind of in that vein.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Harrison Smith, he, he,
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of ruined Mitch Krabiski's career, but with that with that late hit that hurt his shoulder.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that.
42:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But even then like he I've always I like him coming out of Notre Dame.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good player.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't really have that.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I Josh Mattella, some huge Josh Mattella's fan, safety line back from Michigan, heck of a play.
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Brian Flores, what he's done with that love Kevin O'Connell.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I respect him.
43:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Jones, I don't like because he was a packer.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why he's got the stink of cheese on him still.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a bear killer.
43:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he didn't play us week one.
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, he didn't play.
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But as I mentioned, watch out for Jordan Mason, Jordan Mason came and dominated, had almost five hours of carrying, kept the, you know, he was there offensive MVP because that was a McCarthy was kind of finding his footing still.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't really have any of those got even even Justin Jefferson.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, he's just so good and fun to watch.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to hate him, right?
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a silly kid, you know, his play and ball.
43:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I don't have anybody, but we got to get this win, man.
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to get this win.
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of hoping to go to this game.
43:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know I mentioned it on the show.
43:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not going to be able to go.
43:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, my buddy that lives up there, I told the story about he was at that Monday night.
44:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Game of the Bears won in a suite, I think.
44:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's not going to be able to go to the game this weekend.
44:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So unfortunately, I will not be there.
44:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I've still never been in US Bank Stadium.
44:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's three hours for my house.
44:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And this would be a good one to go to.
44:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, not going to be able to go.
44:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I did see the tickets on this game are pretty high on the secondary market.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They know Bears fans will pay up for sure.
44:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know sometimes you go to Vikings game and it doesn't cost really that much compared to going to soldier field like the tickets are very reasonable, but they are they are jacked up for this game any time the bears are good people know bears fans travel so unless I could get hooked up you know from a friend that was up there the odds were not good for me going to this you know I hope to go sometime.
44:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I said it before.
44:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my wife's a Minnesota.
44:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Minnesota.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of my favorite states.
44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Many apples is a great city.
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: We go up there all the time.
44:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really like any apples.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope the bears kick their ass.
44:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely what happens.
44:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would love to go to that game too.
45:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like you'd have to look at the stats.
45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you already did kind of mention that we've lost either the last nine against them.
45:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't have much luck, especially in
45:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've got, you know, they've got that, they, there's a lot of publicity with how much how loud it can get there and how teams have to pump noise in for practice and, um,
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I expect that to be the case this week.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a huge, it's a must win for them.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They absolutely need the win.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot fall to what would it be?
45:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like three and six or something.
45:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't fall another another loss.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd be four and six and it'd put them one and four at home.
45:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do that in an NFC North battle, the gauntlet, arguably four playoff teams could come from this division.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot go to four and six.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's going to be so tight down the stretch with the NFC West.
46:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be the other division trying to get multiple teams in.
46:15
[SPEAKER_00]: And we talked last week about that game in San Francisco.
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Second to the last game in the year, that's going to be a huge game.
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So must watch TV.
46:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably we want to stay above some of these teams in the division, which you know, now we are.
46:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Had a green bay, I had a Minnesota right now.
46:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to be winning these division games.
46:36
[SPEAKER_00]: what our record is in Minnesota at U.S. Bank because I believe it opened in 2016.
46:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So we lost there in the 2016 season.
46:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We lost there in 2017.
46:50
[SPEAKER_00]: We won in 2018,
46:53
[SPEAKER_00]: 2019 we won again 21 to 19 and we won there in 2020 so we won there three years in a row and then won there in in a 2023 that Monday night game 12 to 10 so I actually won there four times it's like what is that that's close to like a 500 record up there so the bear's actually been pretty good at USB bank stadium now that I look at it nice so yeah I'm sure there'll be a lot of
47:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
47:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We will see.
47:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, next week, we'll be drinking on the show as always, either celebrating a win or talking about being 013 the division, which would not be good drinking on the job drinking on the job.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I've already finished mine.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I've moved on to my second brew.
47:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a non alcoholic fish tonight.
47:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a new one.
47:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I wouldn't.
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I would quite recommend this is non
48:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to try something new, non-alcoholic variety.
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Just because it's still weeknight, we got folks got to work in the morning.
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: My kids don't care what time I'm going to bed.
48:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to wake up at five and get ready for school and all that, but yeah, I'm excited to keep on pounding them and then do the good, the dark ones, the winter ones, next week.
48:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually had a beer before the show, which I don't often do, but the wife made chili and I always got to have a beer when I have chili.
48:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's been cold out.
48:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like the first time at chili, this winter late fall and I cracked open a course banquet, nothing, nothing heavy, but it was like a course banquet.
48:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's supposed to be 70 degrees here on Saturday.
48:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to warm up again.
48:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try to get my Christmas lights up.
48:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, we're off the bears.
48:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just we're going off the rails.
48:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell the story because it's amusing.
49:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know how like right before it snows in the Midwest, you want to mow your yard like one last time to get the grass nice and short.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So in this in the spring when the snow melt, it's not like all long and matted down and terrible looking.
49:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I got a writing lawnmower, a decent size lot.
49:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get this one last mowing.
49:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, of course, the sun's going down at five o'clock.
49:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I get a home at four o'clock.
49:25
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to get this in quick.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I go out there to mow the lawn.
49:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to snow Saturday.
49:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got to do it Friday night.
49:32
[SPEAKER_00]: will not start, you have got to be hitting me and it's definitely the battery and so I took that battery out whenever the store got a new one came back and then up mowing the yard there's a little bit of sunlight by the time I got the battery in, but I did probably three quarters of it for the first time using the headlights on my riding lawnmower.
49:53
[SPEAKER_00]: All's out there, it was windy, it was cold, you know, I'm getting the yard mode and now it turns out this Saturday
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But it'll give me a chance to get the Christmas lights on the house and not freezing while I'm doing it.
50:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
50:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.
50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was in the same boat, but I was I was out of town this past weekend for my anniversary.
50:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it snowed so I didn't get that last cut in, but I haven't tell my wife I need to get one more cut, need to get one more cut.
50:20
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a funny, you're talking about that.
50:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, hopefully I'll get to it this weekend.
50:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's hilarious.
50:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking like why not?
50:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like of course the last mo and my battery dies and it's been working fine up until then, you know, and you know it was fully charged and everything wasn't that long ago and then all of a sudden, you know, it's a five-year-old battery that's about, you know, probably for writing more, they're small batteries, they don't last real long time, so yeah.
50:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It was simple enough to take it out and get a new one.
50:48
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I was hot Brian.
50:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not happy about that.
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, let it die in the spring.
50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I need one more mole right now.
50:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We call that Murphy's Law.
50:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're well familiar with Murphy around these parts.
51:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And we could have another podcast talking, just about Murphy's Law being a girl dad, being a dad, being husband, you name it.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not what we're here for.
51:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We're here to celebrate the victories.
51:16
[SPEAKER_01]: to commiserate with our brethren and sisters and chop it up talking bears football.
51:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So appreciate you guys joining us.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Let us know what you're drinking.
51:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've seen that today.
51:29
[SPEAKER_01]: What you're drinking, although I don't have the chat.
51:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not looking at chat.
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're if you're chatting, you got to you got to make sure Ryan sees it because
51:37
[SPEAKER_00]: because he's been busy.
51:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't seen any chats about what people are drinking, but I mean, even if you're listening on demand or you're watching this on Friday night or Saturday night get ready for the game, just leave us a comment on the video.
51:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I check them.
51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I was check to see if people are commenting or or tweeted at us at Bears Overbears.
51:55
[SPEAKER_00]: You can follow Brian too at Brian Orangeuk.
51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at Ryan Drosty on Twitter.
52:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you'd be one of my 25 followers.
52:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You're over 200 now, I think I saw it all right.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like these weird bots jump on and they jump off.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like fluctuates, but how about this, Ryan?
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: If they send you a picture of their drink whilst listening, would that also get them attacking everything like we talked about?
52:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Would that also get them a sticker?
52:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
52:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
52:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
52:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
52:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So rather, rather than a picture of like the artwork of the podcast, just tweet us a beer and say you're listening to bears overbears.
52:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Or wine or a non alcoholic or a bourbon, whatever it might be.
52:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Tag us and get you a sticker.
52:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
52:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I got a bunch of stickers.
52:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to get them out there.
52:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for crying out loud, I want to just send some free stickers in the mail.
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So, make me send them, you guys.
52:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Just, uh, yeah, tweet us a picture of what you're drinking when you're listening over the next few days.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get you that sticker out.
52:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll send you a DM.
52:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know where to send it.
52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
52:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we really appreciate all of you tuning in each and every week.
53:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a blast kind of taken over the show the last couple of years.
53:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And this year, Brian and I do want to just us to every week for the first time.
53:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully we'll be doing this well into the future.
53:11
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53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: don't forget to tell them about the new bini that we have.
53:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, let me pull that up.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's getting older out there, y'all.
53:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get you one of these.
53:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just share my screen for those of you watching on YouTube and you can see how you can get one of these.
53:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But the link is in the podcast description.
53:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It's here in the YouTube description as well, but here we are.
53:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So we asked our boss, Lester, could you make a bears overbears, be any for us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he got right on it within 24 hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you go to the second city gridiron store as you can see right here, you scroll down on this main page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's categories and then there's the shows themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Click on bears overbears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a bears overbears stitched beany now comes in five different color ways with that awesome awesome artwork stitched on the front right on the cuff there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be getting one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Brian's going to be getting one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get one to there it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's available now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As demanded by Brian Ornchuk.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Show us show us the colors show us the colors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
54:34
[SPEAKER_00]: So there it is in black.
54:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You did a navy.
54:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, you can get it in light gray, I've got a base one and light blue.
54:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, the gray looks pretty good.
54:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a great does look for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's local pops on the gray for sure does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
54:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can you can support show as the weather gets cold and of course we've got t-shirts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got hoodies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate everyone who has picked up some of this gear already.
55:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's been a few of you.
55:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen some pictures out there in Twitter and even over on blue skies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So people are picking up our gear.
55:17
[SPEAKER_00]: They're drinking out of the rocks glass, the out of the pint glass and enlistening a line.
55:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Every time we see something like that, it just, it makes doing the show worth it.
55:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I love seeing the show getting out there like that, and then people enjoying it, people rocking the merch, and all of that, and soon the stickers as well.
55:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So, absolutely.
55:36
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
55:38
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, guys, we're gonna wrap.
55:40
[SPEAKER_00]: We are right up on our usual one hour show.
55:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, follow us on all the socials you can see.
55:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Our usernames right there on the video feed and at bears overbears on Twitter as well.
55:52
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next Wednesday night, same time eight o'clock central, win, lose, or tie.
55:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's hope it's a win, guys.
56:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bare downs with that victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grimes, but a blast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See you guys next time.