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We are creative people. Adam Curry. It's Sunday, October 4th,
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2026. This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination episode
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1909. This is no agenda. That's right. It's Sunday, everybody,
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coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill
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Country here in Fredericksburg, Texas. Another multi-hour media deconstruction lined
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up for you. Oh, man, we're looking for an October
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surprise now, aren't we? Coming up within just 90 seconds,
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he's back once again, the one and only, Mr. Rob
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Deucer-Ducifer. Ladies. Gentlemen! controls of Missing the arrival of a
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mere man. whose reputation arrived five minutes before he did.
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The customer! Hi, everybody. Yeah, you got to hit us
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with the lisp. Hello, I'm here. Oh, my goodness. Was
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that Melody? No, that was Sir Joho. He came in
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all of a sudden. Yeah, it's like the Suno V6
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or whatever, and it's... It's interesting. It's interesting. You know,
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the AI is going to take over, definitely. But I'm
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doing my best to try and hold them off as
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much as possible. Oh, please. Just wave the flag already,
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man. Use it. Use it or lose it. I'm telling
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you. Yeah, everyone's all on this. Well, you know, there's
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some interesting stuff about AI and music and what it
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could do. Yeah, because you're in the studio, right? You're
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recording stuff now? I'm recording stuff. We've been recording for
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the past month. Did some more recording yesterday. We were
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at this thing in New Orleans, and... One of the
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there's a bunch of lawyers doing presentations. So what are
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you doing? What are you doing with a bunch of
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lawyers in New Orleans? That's bad. Well, that's how presidents
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get killed. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Absolutely right. But what happened
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was they're saying, well, we don't know. There's no precedent
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set yet. Yeah. So say you make an AI song
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and you're making money off of it. At some point,
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these companies can go, hey, you owe us money. You
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made it with our system. We own your song, actually.
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We're just going to take it. So they said that
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hasn't happened yet, but that could happen. So that's something
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to look out for if you are making money with
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this music. Hmm. But that could be an end around
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for because lawyers love to find money in certain places.
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If anyone comes for your stuff, man, you just call
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the suits and boots and you get constitutional lawyer Rob
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on the case. You'll be OK. Well, I'm not worried
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about my stuff. Definitely not worried about my. But there
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are people that I know that do this a lot.
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And. We had a guy with us who all of
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his songs are AI that he's made and he sings
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to with them. He does the singing, but all the
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instrumentation is AI. And he didn't seem he didn't seem
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worried about it. Well, from what I understand, the Suno
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deal is, you know, all these labels came after them
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and they said, OK, well, we'll make it like this.
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Because apparently they have technology. They can detect exactly where
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certain pieces of sound came from. I don't know if
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it's composition, but there's got to be some recorded sound,
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obviously. And so they have some way of calculating which
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of the publishing companies owns what. And so Suno had
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to cut this deal with him so that you cannot
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you can no longer download songs. You can only download
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them once or twice if you pay an extra amount
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per per month. But what I'm seeing. You know, because
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a while back and I forget what the reason was,
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but John and I were talking like, oh, I'll put
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no agenda back on Spotify. And so put it back
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on Spotify and every other episode gets taken down. And
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it's always like music violation, music violation. And they have,
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you know, I'm sure they're their robots are just looking
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for any music and just better be safe and sorry.
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Yeah. But it's always for end of show mixes. Right.
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Right. Yeah, exactly. But today it won't be. Oh. If
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you follow my protocol, I have two end of show
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mixes that I recorded myself. Oh, boy. I didn't even
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see them in your – oh, there they are. It
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says the EOS. Yeah. I see it. And it had
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to do with a trip I took. I took a
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one-night little trip. with a friend uh a friend of
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mine he's in the band and uh he was leading
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a drum circle and he's like hey you want to
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come and he's like i have an extra ticket and
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i said sure let's do it is a drum circle
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where you smoke weed and sit in a circle and
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then hit the drums is that basically a drum circle
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That is one version of a drum circle. There wasn't
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a lot of weed being passed around at this. That's
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a bogus drum circle. That one's no good. You should
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get your money back. Well, you know, I didn't have
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to pay anything, but it was called Medicine for the
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People, and it's sort of like a gathering. It's a
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very hippie gathering, and I'm thinking there's going to be
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weed everywhere. And these people like to mix weed with
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tobacco. That's how I used to smoke it, man. That's
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it. Right. It's a European thing. Yep. Because – When
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I was in Switzerland, that's how they smoked it. Yeah,
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it's called a spliff. That's exactly right. And so he
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was – this guy actually started the drum circle for
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this group. He kind of led it for years, and
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now it's huge. So he's still there. And – I
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brought my little, I have a gourd drum, which is
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basically a hollowed out gourd. And so it's very lightweight.
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Most of these drums that people carry around. You have
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to have a wagon and pull these things because they're
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so damn big and heavy. But I have my little
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gourd drum, and I'm just... But I saw... But on
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my way to the drum circle, there's this tent, and
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I hear this beautiful flute music playing. I'm like, oh,
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what's this? I go in there, and everybody's laying down
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meditating. And this dude's playing flute, and he's got sound...
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bulls his girlfriend or wife i guess his wife is
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this is basically a doing the sound bowls satanic circle
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is what i'm hearing no i don't you know what
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i'd never heard people talk about god so much oh
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really okay i'm serious i'm serious it was It was
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a lot of praise the Lord, praise Jesus. I never
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– and I was surprised at how many times I'd
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heard it. I actually started taking a mental note. By
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like the fourth time, I'm like, this is getting interesting.
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Wow. But I think the hippie kind of culture is
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a little more – they're a little more God-based. than
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like your typical raving culture. If you were to go
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to like a raving ceremony. You mean Burning Man, yes.
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Yeah, if you were to go to Burning Man, there's
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not a lot of God talk there. I think they
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kick out the God people if they start talking too
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much. No God on the playa. Exactly. Exactly. Only dust
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and whatever drugs you can find. Mud and drugs. And
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mud, yeah. Well, speaking of mud, We got ACL this
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weekend, and it's a mud bath. Oh, my Lord. Tina
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said to me, said, you could not pay me to
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go there. We've been, I think we went together twice,
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I think. And even then, it was like, you know,
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when you see teenage girls just fall flat on their
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face, be a blackout drunk. It's like, I'm too old
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for that, man. I don't understand how they could get
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that drunk because you've got to wait 45 minutes to
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get a beer. You've got to wait 45 minutes to
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get to the bathrooms. I don't know how you even
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watch music at these things. It's such an elitist thing,
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like the Golden Pass. You pay $1,200 and then you
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get the special. It's basically to get access to a
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bar. And then you get some seats up front, I
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think. Austin is elite. Oh, big time. Let's face it.
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That's why I live in Driftwood. Yeah, exactly. You got
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to get out. Get out of Austin. So I'm looking
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at your clip list, and, man, I can just tell
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you put together a no agenda list of clips. I
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mean, I am loving what, of course, rules are. I
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don't listen to anything beforehand. But since you had such
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a grand entrance, you threw off your – Your dressing
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gown, you had the babes with you, a big WWD
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entrance. I will let you choose wherever you want to
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go first because I don't think there's a single thing
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that is not spot on the money that I'm seeing
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on your list. Well, here's the interesting thing. I saw
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the show art for the last show, and it had
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the plumber flying the plane. So I look at that,
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and I'm like, oh, they covered this already. And then
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I – Listen to the show with you and Horowitz,
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who I think did a great job as well. Horowitz,
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you know, especially with his long winded clips of nothing
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going on. That was great. Yeah. You know, the thing
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is, the thing with Andrew, he's like, how'd I do?
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How'd I do? You were great, man. It's like, you
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know, thank you. It's awesome. And then I see him
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on X and he's answering people and he's engaging. engaging
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like oh my lord yeah text me again well what's
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the verdict i said well as you'd expect a lot
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of people love you some hate you a lot of
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people hate you some love you it's like it's it's
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x man but it's gone to his head already gone
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to his head i mean i have First of all,
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this is not an audition. You know, it's like everyone's,
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well, that's the guy. Oh, no, he's the guy. That's
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the guy. This is the guy. That's the guy. Everyone's
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the guy. I like what this is, what's happening right
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now with the different co-hosts because, you know, I don't
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have the pressure of having to come up with clips.
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I don't know how you do it. But, like, just.
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thinking about it and going, oh, I've got to find
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these clips and do this, or that's a good clip,
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I'm going to send it to myself and get it
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later. And being able to hear everybody's perspective, and the
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way you timed it out with Cal Canis having his
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– Big symposium and you get him on right after
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that. Like you had it timed perfectly. That was Providence.
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I had no idea. I had no idea. I really
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didn't. I didn't know. I'm glad he did it. I
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mean, when you do something like that. And I'd sent
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him the invite from Rotterdam. So it popped up at
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6 a.m. his time. So he didn't even see it.
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And I'm like, dude, you coming on the show? Like,
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oh, oh, oh, crap. Give me five minutes to freshen
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up. Let me let the dogs out. He was –
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he's definitely a country boy because he goes outside to
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– or was it – It was him or Dana.
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Like, let me go outside. I have to go use
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the bathroom. I'll be right back. That's Dana. That was
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Dana. Yeah. Getting all the perspectives from everybody and then
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having Horowitz come in and you guys were talking the
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financials and AI and what's going on because we really,
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you know, you've been hitting the AI drum. In the
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drum circle. You're the guy in there talking about AI
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the whole time while people are trying to drum. And
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it's – you really have been hitting it hard. But
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it's been – and I'm taking a step back because
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I'm like, uh, AI. I'm like, uh, there's guys in
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the office that love it. And I'm just like, whatever.
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To me, it's another flash in the pan trend. But
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I do see some things happening. Yeah. On our end,
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in our media operation over here. In your workflow. Yeah,
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where people are doing it. Not just to make fun
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videos, because that's great, and I love the funny videos.
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And I usually, I'm an idea guy. I'll throw out
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an idea about something, and these guys put it together,
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and I'm like, ha, ha, look what I did. Yeah.
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building pieces of software that we're going to use in
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production that I think and what you've already done. Yep.
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That's the, that's going to be the game changer because
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software makers make crappy software. I don't know why, but,
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But they'll make it with little guardrails in it that
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don't help your production flow. And you don't realize it
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until you get into that flow. And then you're like,
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wait a minute. Why can't we play this clip? Oh,
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it hasn't been turned into the right codec yet. So
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you're nailing it on this. This is the first thing
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I realized with the coding agents is – software. I
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told Horowitz, short Microsoft, man. It's like I don't use
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a spreadsheet. I don't use Excel. I don't even use
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LibreOffice anymore. I just made a donation spreadsheet reader that
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doesn't – snap cells and it pulls out the jingle
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requests and then you know i can click on it
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and the jingle loads up and that's what i needed
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and i think it's phenomenal for that so we're going
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to go with your death of software death of software
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now before you play it real quick um it's it's
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video game related and it's also also spot on yeah
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Right. It's very interesting. This is one guy talking to
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himself. It's the different perspectives. So when you hear two
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people talking, it's the same guy. You mean on TikTok
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or is this YouTube? I find everything on X at
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this point, but it probably was on TikTok. I probably
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cut out the TikTok ending though. But yeah, so it's
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in three parts and we could talk about each part.
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I kind of cut them up where there's a good
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spot to talk about things. They put me a little
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into Modern Warfare 2. Why are you giving me that
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look? Isn't that so cool? An AI did that. Oh
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my gosh, please tell me you're not one of those
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AI protesters. No, it's not that. What is it then?
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What is it then? An AI reverse engineered an entire
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video game. And? That's not new. No, it's entirely new.
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Reverse engineering is one of the most complex and time-consuming
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tasks in software development. Okay. Don't you get it? GPT
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and Claude have released models intelligent enough to perform tasks
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that were deemed so difficult, they were considered a form
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of security. What are you trying to get at? Listen,
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as much as you see a game in front of
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you, you know and love. This is about the security
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and copyright protection of every single piece of software ever
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developed in human history. We'll get with the times. Artists
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have been having to deal with this for years now.
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If anything, it's kind of like payback to the tech
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world. No, no, no. You're not understanding. I'm talking about
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every single product you use. Games, mobile apps, desktop software.
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They're going to be reverse engineered and understood faster than
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human beings can protect them. The entire world runs on
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the assumption that some information is computationally impractical to uncover.
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Your bank account, military communications, government intelligence, authentication systems, private
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messaging, understanding millions of lines of encrypted, undocumented code were
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supposed to be the security. The start is all fun
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and cute. Games are being reverse-engineered, but then payback.
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Before services become free. Yeah. That's right. You want Dropbox?
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Don't pay for Dropbox. Just make your own. Make it
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yourself. Yeah, make your own Dropbox. And what they're talking
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about is there's a game called Call of Duty Modern
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Warfare 2. Yeah. And some people hacked it apparently. And
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now you can play Halo, which is like one of
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the originals. you know, first person shoot them up games.
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Now you can bring in your halo characters into that.
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And there's other games that are doing this. But that's,
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you know, he's saying when I heard this clip, I'm
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like, this is what you and Horowitz were talking about,
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but not as dramatic with the background music. Well, and
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we don't talk to ourselves. There's a difference there. It's
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– one of the trolls, Tesla Coil, said, death of
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software, the rise of maker brands. I like that. Yeah,
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maker brands. But that could lead to some interesting things.
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Like what happens if you're – some guy doesn't like
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the power company, and he's like, you know what? I'm
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going to make sure that they're giving me the right
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rates, and then – They re-engineer the, the elect, can
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they re-engineer the electrical grid? Can't. Can people do that?
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Will that happen in the future? Are we two months
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away from that happening or two years away? Well, it
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is October. We're waiting for the surprise. So anything that
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AI can do to make Trump look bad would be
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this would be the next four weeks. This is the
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time to do it before the election. That's it. That's
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exactly it. All right. We'll go to two. Next will
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be old government infrastructure. Banks running on. 20-year-old software, telecom
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networks, satellites, systems that nobody would want to replace because
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it would cost them billions. Okay, you're starting to freak
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me out. Then trust disappears. We'll get to the point
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where markets close because they don't know which transactions are
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legitimate. Banks freeze transfers. Companies stop accepting digital payments. Governments
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isolate their networks. Supply chains lose their schedulings. Ports stop
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moving cargo. Hospitals disconnect their equipment from networks. Airlines ground
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all their flights. We are talking about the disappearance of
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all white collar jobs. Swipe a card and food appears
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Press the button and gasoline moves across the continent Click
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buy In ten companies Three banks, two warehouses A satellite
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and a truck driver Coordinated without you ever seeing it
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And it all goes away. Nobody knows whether it's Russia
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or China, some corporation, or a 16-year-old sitting in his
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bedroom. Or at his mom's basement. Well, we'll play your
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kicker, then I want to play a throwback clip. Okay.
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What this reminds me of. You want, you need to
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set this up or is this just, this is obvious?
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No, the kicker is just the end of it. But
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what's interesting also is this is, he appears to be
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a Gen Z talking about this. You know, you would
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think it would be more of a Luddite class like
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yourself. or Horowitz that would be doing this. Hold on,
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what do you mean Luddite? I'm part of the Luddite
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class. I'm one of those people that doesn't, I hate
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upgrading anything. I hate it. It's terrible. So I consider
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myself part of the Luddite class. Okay, here we go.
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I'm afraid we've opened Pandora's box. But humanity hasn't even
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recognized it yet because we've been too excited holding the
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lid. And now it's become the mark of the beast.
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the birthing pains of the rapture. The second coming of
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the nuclear bomb. but instead of fission. It's just text.
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Text. Did you see they also put Minecraft in Skyrim?
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That's good. It's just text. It's just text. Death by
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text. Sir Gene had an interesting question for me this
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morning. He sent me a link to, what is this
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thing called? The pseudo by new matter. And it's basically,
18:52
you know, an iPhone, an iPod. And he says, and
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it's, you know, they sell it for $299. It has
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all your music downloaded or streaming. And his question is,
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are the alphas tired of smartphones? It might be. It
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might be. But I don't think we have any... Any
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idea what is coming, what is going to happen other
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than severe disruption. But I think severe disruption of companies
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that have essentially held us hostage for decades with their
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crappy software. Well, you know, they're trying when you make
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software and I've been involved in software projects and service
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projects, you try to make it work for everybody. And
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ultimately, it works for nobody. It doesn't really do the
19:37
thing exactly the way you want to do it or
19:39
you're hitting menus and going left and right. And you
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have to remember how the computer is not working for
19:45
you. You're working the computer. And that is the thing
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that to me is so exciting, particularly with technology. Linux,
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I'm sorry, GNU, Linux, and Omachi, which, you know, was
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really built around the whole concept of your agents built
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in and you tell it what you need it to
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do. And it's going to build that for you right
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there on your computer. And in fact, I did, I
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made something the other day, which was very simple for
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me. You know what an MCP server is? No. I'm
20:17
not even sure what it stands for. But it's a
20:20
thing. It's a server that sits in front of a,
20:23
for lack of a better term, a data source. And
20:28
it exposes tools and ways that you're... agent, your bot,
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you know, I just keep calling it a robot, that
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your robot can interact with that data source. And so
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I happen to be co-owner of a large data source
20:44
being the podcast index, podcastindex.org. Which is, you know, we
20:48
don't charge for it. It's really for developers and app
20:51
developers and to keep podcasting open and free so no
20:54
one captures it and sees Spotify and Apple. I mean,
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Spotify dropped a billion dollars. They couldn't turn it into
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a walled garden. It just didn't work. Even when hiring
21:02
Rogan, it just didn't work. Because podcasting is in a
21:06
way like Bitcoin, just open, free and kind of in
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destroy RSS, I should say, is it flows, it flows
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and it was always meant to flow. So I created
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an MCP server, which allows your robot to really ask
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for any kind of information on the index. So, you
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know, and I've given some examples. I said, well, I
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want what you know, whenever a new episode of Rogan
21:32
comes out, let me know. Show me who's on the
21:35
show, what the topic is. And if it's an MMA
21:37
show, don't even bother me. And so the robot is
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now tracking that. It's called podcast index robot dot com.
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And it's interesting. Maybe 15% of people are like, Curry,
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you're taking us into Armageddon. I hate you. You're peddling.
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You shill. You're peddling slap. But the rest are like,
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wow, I can actually find podcasts. This has always been
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the problem of podcasting is discovery. That's why. Because nobody
22:08
can advertise. It's hard to advertise for a new podcast.
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Well, here's the crazy thing. So I was talking about
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this with Dave Jones, my partner, on the – we
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call it the board meeting podcasting 2.0. It's on Fridays.
22:19
And actually, it would be great, Sir Bemrose, if you
22:21
line it up for after today's show. It might be
22:23
fun for people to listen to. And so we're chatting
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away, and then I'm just rolling this out. I hadn't
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told Dave what I was doing, and he's looking at
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it. He says, hmm, okay. And they say, well, let's,
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you know, because now basically the podcast index robot dot
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com does nothing. It just exposes a way for robots
22:41
to access the data. And so we did a little
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experiment, you know, robot. Go get me the most recent
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episode of Ed Zitron's Better Offline. Now, I don't know
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who Ed Zitron is, but he's the guy that correctly
22:54
is saying that all these companies, it's a big circular
22:57
financing company. you know, bubble and it's going to blow
23:01
up. I've heard that, the moving of funds. Yeah, probably
23:04
not wrong. But he has six minutes of advertising at
23:08
the beginning of the show, all dynamically inserted. And so
23:11
I say, robot, go get the most recent episode of
23:13
Ed Zitron and just cut off the ads, dude. Like,
23:17
okay, here it is. I cut out, you know, better
23:22
help, sleep well, Chevron. And they told me what it
23:26
cut out. And I hit the play button and boom,
23:28
it started right with this podcast. So this, and that's
23:31
not how I'm marketing it, but that is just an
23:34
example of the power that the people now have. And
23:38
it's going to disrupt everything. So I 100% agree. It's
23:43
definitely, especially the software industry, you're 100% right about this
23:48
software industry. Well, but think about it. Armageddon that's going
23:51
to happen. But not a lot of people are using
23:52
it yet, but three years, it's going to be a
23:54
whole different ballgame. Oh, it's going to be three months.
23:57
I mean, think about it. Music is software. It's just
24:01
software. There's no difference between a podcast, a music, or
24:06
a sermon, or a YouTube video. It's all software. So
24:10
that's how you got to look at this stuff. Now,
24:13
luckily, these things aren't, you know, I don't know about
24:15
Elon Musk and his robots. Yeah, sure. Whatever. I see
24:18
a robot doing the dishes very slowly. That would be
24:20
quite frustrating for my $50,000. But this reminds me of
24:26
David Bowie's 1999 interview with Jeremy Paxman on the BBC.
24:30
I don't think we've even seen the tip of the
24:32
iceberg. I think the potential of what the Internet is
24:37
going to do to society, both good and bad, is
24:40
unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something
24:46
exhilarating and terrifying. It's just a tool though, isn't it?
24:52
No, it's not. No, it's an alien life form. What
24:56
do you think, I mean, when you think then about...
25:00
Is there life on Mars? Yes, it's just landed here.
25:03
But it's simply a different delivery system there. You're arguing
25:07
about something more profound. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about the
25:10
actual context and the state of content is going to
25:13
be so different to anything that we can really envisage
25:17
at the moment, where the interplay between the user and
25:21
the provider will be so... in simpatico is going to
25:24
crush our ideas of what mediums are all about. Boom!
25:31
Did he say envisage? Is that the word he used?
25:34
Did he say envisage? I don't know. Anything we can
25:38
really envisage at the moment. Yeah, anything we can envisage.
25:41
He's a Brit. Envisage. Envision, imagine, envisage, envisage, envisage. But
25:48
he was right. He was a little early, but he
25:50
was right. Man, I miss that guy. There's clips of
25:54
Jim Morrison talking about sort of the same thing, but
25:57
with music. He said, eventually you're just going to have
26:00
a guy playing loops and tapes over and over again.
26:03
And people say to me, well, there'll always be live
26:06
music. I say, yeah, but let me burst your bubble.
26:10
99% of all live music, commercial live music, bigger than
26:16
a bread box venue, and even such, is all using
26:20
multi-tracks. Yeah. Everybody, and if you know what multi-tracks is...
26:25
You know, it's essentially you're you're you're playing along to
26:29
your own music and the engineer on the board can
26:31
mix, you know, thing if if the bass guy couldn't
26:34
show up and put the bass in. Oh, we don't
26:37
have horns, but they sound good on the record. So
26:40
we'll add the horns there. I mean, in excess was
26:42
doing this in 1987. Yeah. Who was the best at
26:46
it? Milli Vanilli. They were doing everything. That was the
26:50
ultimate multi-tracks. And they won a Grammy. Come on, man.
26:54
What's the problem? That's how you know it's all junk.
26:58
So let's not stick on AI, but go to the
27:00
fly of Dubai because I – As I said on
27:03
the last episode with Horowitz, I said until we get
27:07
the CVR and the CD, so the flight, the data
27:10
recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, we really won't know.
27:15
All data that we have is flawed. You know, every
27:19
eyewitness has a different – version of the accounts you
27:24
know it dipped a little then it did more but
27:27
you know i'm not seeing Videos of overhead bins opened
27:32
and people crushed against the back, which would happen with
27:37
a 36 degree descent. Well, 6,000 feet per minute. You
27:42
know, yeah, tail fin ripped off. That is indicative of
27:45
some very of overspeeding. But still, even Boeing is probably
27:50
scratching their heads if it really was exceeding VNE by
27:53
100 knots. Like, okay, well, man, we built a good
27:56
plane. Yeah. Trump gave him a shout-out on – His
28:01
true social saying they've made a great plane. Well, imagine.
28:05
Imagine President Trump using that to tout American industry. Imagine.
28:11
So what did you bring? Okay, so this – and
28:14
this clip is kind of old, but this came out
28:17
– when I say old, it came out, I think,
28:19
Thursday, the day of the show. But I'm like, I
28:22
need to bring this to the show because this is
28:23
Aaron Burnett interviewing a couple pilots who are in a
28:26
simulator. Oh, goodness. This is my favorite. The guy off
28:30
to the left is the older captain, and then the
28:33
guy on the right, I guess he's playing the part
28:36
of the Indian pilot who got axed with the hatchet
28:39
or whatever. The crash ax. And I've heard different things.
28:41
Yeah. They were stabbing him. And I'll get to that
28:44
in a second. But this is the first one where
28:46
she she asked him and he kind of sets it
28:48
up what they're going to do. I don't know. I'm
28:50
sure people have seen this, but you never know if
28:52
people haven't seen it. It was interesting to hear. So
28:55
I wanted to bring it to share here. I think
28:57
there's at least 10 of these flights a day, right?
29:00
Back and forth and back and forth. Most people on
29:01
that plane have probably been on that route many times.
29:04
And you look down, and it's desert pretty much the
29:06
whole way. So you're just kind of lulled there, staring
29:09
into space, and then it drops more than 20,000 feet
29:12
in 35 seconds, finally topping out at a speed we
29:15
understand of 700 miles an hour plus. So... So can
29:20
you just show us what that looks like? We certainly
29:23
can. And Aaron, hello. Thanks for inviting us onto the
29:26
show tonight and all your viewers, of course. Angelo is
29:29
going to take us through exactly that procedure that happened
29:33
to the flight and by flight. I will be trying
29:36
to give everyone a little bit of information on what's
29:40
happening on the primary flight display as we go along
29:43
and if you can give us the external view of
29:45
the aircraft when you're ready Angela thank you there we
29:49
are with the flight of I that's the 800 model
29:51
right there and right there is the overspeed warning and
29:56
I'm gonna just get my hand in here if I
29:58
can and start pointing a little bit on
30:00
screened If you can see my hand on the left
30:02
side of that screen right there, there's the barber pole
30:05
indicating the overspeed. We're looking at nothing but ground on
30:08
the prime reflect display on the additive care and the
30:10
jet. If you can take a look in the center
30:12
of your screen, that is approximately what we would have
30:15
seen. We are now recovering at about 18,000, 17,000, 16,000
30:20
feet, perhaps a little more of a dive than the
30:22
air. of graphic today. Yeah, this is why we need
30:26
the cockpit voice recorder. Did we hear the overspeed warning?
30:30
We really just don't know anything. But I appreciate Aaron
30:34
Burnett uh saying well you know you're just sitting there
30:37
just you know playing trying to set it up trying
30:39
to yeah if you're just sitting around looking at the
30:41
desert you know yeah that's that's what we do pilots
30:44
yeah we just sit around and look at the desert
30:46
okay and and so i've heard lots of different stories
30:49
um one one of which uh sir scott sent me
30:52
i don't know if he sent this one to you
30:54
but uh a guy Captain Steve or something. Of course.
30:59
Captain Steve. Captain Steve is never wrong. Steve. He interviewed.
31:04
Well, what's funny is at the end, Captain Steve starts
31:06
talking about the helper and Mr. Rogers. He's like, there's
31:08
helpers out there. Helpers helped. They pulled the bad guy
31:12
out of the cockpit. Other helpers were deadhead pilots, and
31:15
they showed up. And I'm just like, wow, he's really
31:17
debasing it down to, like, you know, kindergarten level. This
31:21
is insane. Which makes, you know, I'm looking at the
31:23
whole thing going, what they're telling us, I don't think
31:26
happened. No. Because you look at the videos, you look
31:30
at the pictures. Yeah. There was one that I posted
31:34
in it. There's a cup of water in the guy's
31:37
drink holder. And, you know, people were like, well, it
31:39
had a cover on it. I'm like, okay, do you
31:41
think that cup of water is going to stay there
31:43
when this thing does a 36-degree dip? And one guy
31:47
is saying it also made it bank to the left
31:49
as it was descending. There's another guy saying, well, it's
31:54
going to stay there. He shut off the engines because
31:56
the emergency lights were on, so – And you can
31:58
see that from the video. And you know the plumber,
32:02
he pulled up on the stick and he relit the
32:05
engines, no doubt. And then there's the plumber. Yeah, did
32:07
he know to flash the engines? I mean, how is
32:09
this guy going to pull them out of a dive
32:11
like that? You're like, okay, this is Pecos Bill and
32:14
Paul Bunyan. This is a tall tale. Why, I don't
32:17
know. But there was a... You know, there was the
32:20
supposed attack that was thwarted at the Capitol. There was
32:23
another one in Manchester. And, you know, these are all
32:26
going after Jewish type organizations. So this is another in
32:29
that line of things. Well, maybe they had an incident
32:33
up in the air where the rudder came off and
32:36
they're like, OK, let's. Let's figure out a way to
32:38
make us the victim. That could be a whole other
32:40
thing, too. Hey, the plane is falling apart. I got
32:44
Boeing stock. Quick, hit me with the axe. Yeah. All
32:47
right. So here's the – I think this is the
32:49
part where the pilot says, hey, you know, I can't
32:52
believe they're at this speed descending. So this is number
32:55
two. I know there were some people, they said they
32:57
were sort of standing by the bathroom, right? They would
32:59
have fallen immediately. I mean, frankly, it's miraculous with something
33:01
like that, that people didn't get more seriously injured or
33:05
die. That's correct. I'm answering the stick shaker. It's the
33:09
overspeed warning that's clicking away in the background, not the
33:11
stick shaker. Stick shaker's at the other end of the
33:13
spectrum where you're stalling the aircraft. That is still going.
33:16
We are just coming into about 500 knots. So some
33:20
of the numbers that we're seeing from the reporting initially
33:24
are... they don't make sense to me because if you're
33:27
saying that rapidly, your craft would have disagreed completely. So
33:30
the numbers will change when we get the preliminary report.
33:33
Oh, that's interesting. Because those, I mean, as you point
33:36
out, those are only the numbers that we have right
33:37
now. But interesting that you said that that could have
33:39
caused it to break apart. Yeah. You know what other
33:42
numbers were unbelievable? The twin tower speeds of those aircraft
33:50
at an altitude that was too low for them even
33:53
to fly that fast. I mean, so we have no
33:56
data. I don't know why we don't have it yet.
34:00
Well, listen, I've been told on X by several people
34:03
that I'm an idiot and that the data is out
34:05
there and I just I'm not looking at the data
34:06
correctly. Oh, OK. That's what I've been told. I'm like,
34:09
I don't believe this is how it happened. And I'm
34:11
like. You don't see the data? It shows it right
34:13
here. It was only 14,000 feet. The ADS-B, man. Yeah,
34:18
we got the data. We got the data. Yeah. And
34:20
the Captain Steve interview, the guy's like, as soon as
34:23
we landed, I accessed the flight data, and I saw
34:26
that we fell almost 20,000 feet. And he's like, I
34:29
thought it was 1,000. He's in the plane. He thinks
34:32
it was 1,000 feet that they went down. So there's
34:34
all kind of conflicting stories. But this last part concerns
34:38
the rudder, which is a visible thing you can see.
34:42
You're like, okay, the plane's missing a rudder. So something
34:45
happened up in the sky where this rudder Pops off,
34:48
which I think this plane had problems with when there
34:51
are crashing. Was it Pennsylvania where they thought they were?
34:55
turning right, but it was making it go right even
34:58
more or something. I don't know about that. This happened
35:00
in the late 90s, I think. I'm surprised. You mean
35:02
Denzel Washington where he flew it upside down? No, that
35:05
was a movie. Oh, I'm sorry. That was real. It
35:09
seemed real to me. All right, let's do number three,
35:11
the rudder. We do know there was damage on the
35:14
rudder, right, from whatever the speeds actually will turn out.
35:16
to be, and portions of it apparently tore away during
35:19
flight. Now, obviously, with serious damage to the rudder, a
35:21
plane's going to crash. So when you just look at
35:24
what we know here, how fortunate do you think it
35:26
is that this plane was actually even able to safely
35:29
land? Yeah. Well, when I saw the images of the
35:33
aircraft on the ground with the rudder section torn out,
35:37
I immediately had a cold chill because the amount of
35:41
damage that that would cause hydraulic systems, electrical systems, especially
35:46
hydraulics. Once you start ripping apart electronics, you start to
35:51
bleed hydraulic fuel, excuse me, I'll get my words right
35:57
here, and that would have affected other systems in the
36:00
airplane The saving grace on this one is at the
36:03
vertical fin. So you'll see the vertical fin of the
36:05
aircraft, and then the rudder is at the rear portion,
36:08
the rear portion of that. That rudder was torn away.
36:12
The vertical fin was what saved the day because that
36:14
gave the aircraft directional stability, and I do not know
36:17
how much longer they could have flown it after they
36:21
landed it. because of the loss of hydraulic fluid due
36:24
to the rudder being removed from the aircraft. So this
36:26
is a very incredible story about the MAX 8. We've
36:30
seen the MAX 8 in the news before. I've been
36:32
certainly involved with that. And to see this aircraft land
36:35
safely after going, I think it went supersonic momentarily. I
36:39
think that Max 8 is fully redeemed. Oh, yeah. Okay.
36:44
Oh, that's fully redeemed. Oh, the Max 8 is fully
36:47
redeemed. Success. Oh, this plane is not only safe, it's
36:50
super duper safe. That's right. So I just did a
36:53
book of knowledge search, and it was U.S. Air Flight
36:57
427, September 8, 1994. It had a rudder hardover, and
37:01
I think you've talked about this on the show probably
37:04
five or six years ago, but it was a Boeing
37:06
737. I think it was when the Boeing Airbus wars
37:08
were going on. What was the flight number? U.S. Air
37:12
Flight 427, and they called it a rudder hardover where
37:17
I guess they think – or they're seeing – The
37:19
rudder go one way, and they're trying to correct it,
37:22
but it's actually going the opposite way, so they're making
37:25
it worse. And then by the time they realize that,
37:27
it was too late, and they killed 132 people. Well,
37:31
whatever this was, and we should find out. I mean,
37:36
they just need to release the data. And even my
37:41
Israeli friends, you know, the ones who pay me $7,000
37:44
to shill for Israel? Oh, yeah. They're so convinced because
37:49
the way – Netanyahu came out, you know, another 9-11,
37:53
9-11 style attack, 9-11, 9-11, you know, terrorists. There's boogeyman
37:58
everywhere. And by the way, you know, there's boogeyman everywhere.
38:01
Absolutely. But now we have more proof. This is the
38:05
first time that we are able to report the name
38:09
of the suspected attacker of that flagpole. Dubai flight. According
38:14
to one of the sources we spoke to, his name
38:16
is Hamam al-Hamami. He was born in the United Arab
38:20
Emirates to an Omani father and a Syrian mother. We
38:24
found a LinkedIn page that has since been taken down.
38:29
The same LinkedIn where John C. Dvorak posed as a
38:31
woman. With that name. name, which one of those sources
38:34
confirmed as being the same co-pilot of that Fly Dubai
38:39
flight. This LinkedIn page shows him having worked for Oman
38:43
Air for seven years until February of 2025 before joining
38:48
Morocco's flagship airline. I also spoke to a source who
38:53
confirmed that the co-pilot of this Dubai flight had indeed
38:56
worked for that very same Moroccan national airline. But what's
39:00
most interesting is what is on that LinkedIn profile. So
39:03
basically they went to the Wayback Machine. There is a
39:06
video that was posted from the cockpit of an airplane
39:10
at Dubai airport that shows El Al Plains, Israel's flagship
39:15
carrier. That video ends with a photo of Ayman al-Zawahiri,
39:20
the al-Qaeda leader who took over after Osama bin Laden's
39:25
death. Because that's what you do as an airline pilot.
39:28
You want to post pictures and videos of El Al
39:31
and then a terrorist. This will get me a promotion.
39:35
This will get me somewhere. Another man. is also shown
39:38
at the end of that video. That man was responsible
39:41
for a 2009 suicide bombing in Afghanistan. Yeah, all right.
39:47
But there's more from CNN, because CNN's got it, man.
39:50
Now, that video was actually posted about nine hours after
39:53
Hamami allegedly tried to hijack that Fly Dubai flight. Hold
39:59
on a second. Wait a minute. So that was posted.
40:02
It was posted after. Afterwards. I thought this guy was
40:04
taken into custody. So who's posting this? I don't know.
40:07
Not clear how that video got off. Yeah, not clear.
40:09
Oh, not clear. Okay. Well, you just completely associated the
40:12
video with him, but now it's not clear. Whether it
40:14
was pre-scheduled, whether he had. Pre-scheduled. Ah, yes. I know
40:18
what I'm doing. Ah, let me pre-schedule this. This is
40:21
my suicide note. I'm going to put it up. up
40:22
here. Crappy suicide note, bro. Somebody else posted. We've also
40:27
analyzed a deleted Twitter account that shows Hamami railing against
40:33
mixed-gender workplaces and expressing other misogynistic... Oh, it wasn't that
40:38
stupid. Not that bad. And some deeply religious views as
40:43
well like what so you take all that information you
40:46
also what does that even mean deeply religious views as
40:50
well why don't you tell us what that is This
40:53
was Allahu Akbar over and over again. It's rather bothersome
40:56
that he didn't mention it. And some deeply religious views
41:00
as well. So you take all that information. You also
41:03
take the fact that we have multiple sources saying that
41:06
he was removed from flight training at Oman Air last
41:09
year. Multiple sources. Wow. Unnamed. Come on, CNN. So now
41:13
he's flying with flight. Dubai. I guess they don't check...
41:16
the LinkedIn page. I mean, they're literally doing chat GPT
41:20
lookups now. They are just so phoning this in. Over
41:23
concerns about his extremist views. And then somehow he gets
41:27
hired at Fly Dubai. Now, we don't know whether Fly
41:31
Dubai was aware of these radical views that he had,
41:36
whether they You had conducted a thorough background check. All
41:40
of that is still unknown at this point. And Fly
41:42
Dubai for now is not commenting, saying that there is
41:46
an ongoing investigation. Yeah. Well, the public demands information. You
41:52
have this information. There was no crash. It's been recorded.
41:56
Give it up. Give it up already. Give it up.
41:58
I think there's a reason they're not because the tail
42:01
that's already out there is like, well, we'll just leave
42:03
this floating around. And I think it's going to be
42:05
a lot less. It's not going to be as fast.
42:08
There was probably something that happened with the rudder. Maybe
42:10
there was a disagreement with this guy. Who knows? Maybe
42:13
there is a guy with blood on his shirt and
42:15
there's a guy with blood on his head. Maybe they
42:17
were arguing over hummus. I mean, anything is possible. Anything
42:20
is possible because everything I've heard is there was a
42:23
fight. It wasn't like a fight. The guy's trying to
42:26
stop him to crash the airplane. There was a fight
42:28
and a bad fight. And it was an Indian and
42:30
an Arab, so it could have been anything. Right. I
42:33
mean, who knows what they were fighting over. Yeah. Somebody
42:36
did, there was a lot of fun video posted of
42:39
the, it's this meme video of these Two Indian guys
42:43
cussing each other out, or they could be Pakistani, I
42:45
don't know. But they're like, here's the flight recorder. You
42:48
effing effer. I'm going to kill you. Which I'm like,
42:52
yeah, that's where I think happened. Well, the parody videos
42:57
are... Just off the hook. Oh, yeah. That stuff is,
43:02
I mean, my favorite has got to be Friends, Comrades.
43:06
Have you seen those? Oh, yes, yes, yes. In the
43:09
style of Friends with Che Guevara and Stalin and Mao
43:13
and Pinochet. This stuff has gotten good. There was an
43:17
animated group who, like, the morning of this thing happening,
43:20
I guess these guys are somewhere where they get up
43:22
before us. They already had a Japanese anime style show.
43:27
of this thing happening and the uh but they're all
43:29
you know they're kind of they're all white people like
43:32
whitish with big eyes and so the co-pilot pulls out
43:34
his knife and just starts hacking the guy going oh
43:37
they're like people are running in and grabbing the guy
43:40
and it's all you know they're cutting to news reports
43:43
and the plane's safely on the ground you know you're
43:47
a pilot Is it possible that the way they're explaining
43:52
this story, that it dropped like this, whether the engines
43:55
were cut off or not, is it possible to pull
43:58
yourself out of a dive like that at that point?
44:00
A speed and altitude? Well, the question is like that.
44:04
I mean, what is that? I still don't know what
44:07
the dive was. We do not have accurate data. Well,
44:11
based on what they're saying on these images, they're showing
44:14
images of this flight path, which are from websites that
44:17
supposedly track these planes. And, yeah, I would say it
44:20
should be possible, but I can't believe you even got
44:24
into that amount of speed in the dive. You know,
44:27
right. And, you know, just pull as the president said,
44:29
pulling up on the stick, pulling back on the controls.
44:33
Yeah. There would be a high likelihood or a possibility
44:37
that you'd rip the ailerons off. I mean, you'd have
44:40
to go real easy, and you would have to retard
44:42
the engines. I love saying retard the engines. It's my
44:45
favorite. But you could – a plumber, plumber strength would
44:48
be able to do it. Only if he watched air
44:50
crash investigations. Exactly. He would need the knowledge. Stabilizers on.
44:57
I'm happy everybody's safe. Whatever happened up there.
45:00
there that's the good news and uh we'll have to
45:03
see but i am anxiously i've just checked out my
45:06
favorite uh pilot forums they they you know there's no
45:09
data so most of the smart guys are going like
45:12
you're just blowing in the wind you know we don't
45:15
know we don't know anything when we get the data
45:18
Which is why I joined Pilots for 9-11 Truth. I
45:20
saw the data. I'm like, this is bogus. That was
45:22
my proof. I'm like, no, the data you actually gave
45:25
us, whether it's true or not, is not possible. My
45:29
favorite is Hani Hanjur's corkscrew into the Pentagon. Beautiful. The
45:34
guy who can even fly a Cessna. That's the best
45:36
one. And the thing flew over the Pentagon at about
45:38
170 feet, according to their own data. So I don't
45:41
know what it was, but it doesn't seem like it
45:43
was a plane. Now, this other story popped up. Which
45:49
I'm still looking for October surprises. We need the elites
45:52
of the world who – and by the way, that's
45:55
some of the trolls in our very own troll room
45:58
who hate Donald Trump and do not want him to
46:01
have any type of victory, the Republicans, anything – They'll
46:06
do anything. There's a lot more riding on who runs
46:10
Congress than a couple of lives, so they don't care.
46:14
So an October surprise, it's got to be AI-related. I
46:19
don't think the terror thing that works great for Netanyahu,
46:22
his election is on the 27th. He's going to milk
46:25
that for all it's worth, and I can't blame him.
46:27
That's what you do. I mean, if I was on
46:30
that plane, I'd be milking it. I'd be on CNN.
46:33
I'd be raking in the dough. I watched the documentary
46:37
on his supposed corruption – What are they're saying is
46:40
corruption. And it was like getting cigars and champagne delivered
46:44
to – I'm like, that's it? That's – Trump? About
46:47
Trump? No, no, no. Netanyahu. They said he was receiving
46:50
bribes. I know. I'm like, okay, let's – this is
46:52
going to be juicy. And it's like – It's not
46:54
all that great. He got cigars and he got champagne
46:56
and his wife may have gotten some jewelry, which, okay
47:01
– There's nothing about it. Well, he wasn't killing –
47:04
it didn't seem like – They had evidence of him
47:05
killing people or October 7th stand down, which that's what
47:09
I was looking for. I'm like, let's see the evidence.
47:10
I want to see the evidence. I need your Venmo
47:13
for Hasbro. They want to send you $7,000. I said
47:18
something nice. I'm just like, how is this the level
47:21
of we have a special report about Netanyahu? Yeah. I
47:25
don't know. I think he's a good guy, by the
47:27
way. Didn't Tucker? Tucker was touting that. Is that his
47:30
documentary? Tucker replayed – he replayed someone else's documentary. That
47:33
was a year old, but he kind of brought it
47:35
out. He remarketed it essentially for his audience, his Tucker
47:38
audience. He seems like he's disappeared. Well, no, not on
47:43
my feed. He's everywhere. He's – He was talking about
47:49
how math is... Math was invented by the Jews to
47:54
imprison people. I'm like, really? Okay. I don't like math
47:57
either, but I'm not going to go that far. All
47:59
right. Here is the latest possible October surprise. A deadly
48:03
case of the plague in Russia's southern Siberian region of
48:07
Irkutsk has put nearly 200 people under quarantine. The regime-independent
48:11
Moscow time... Times has reported. A lab worker contracted the
48:15
disease after she reportedly broke a test tube containing live
48:18
plague bacteria. According to local outlets, she was collecting samples
48:22
for testing when the incident, believed to be an accident,
48:25
occurred. Suffering from symptoms of acute pneumonia, she was put
48:29
on a ventilator on Tuesday, but succumbed to the disease
48:32
on Thursday. An entire hospital with people who could have
48:35
come in contact with the infected person has been placed
48:38
under isolation. According to local authorities, there have been no
48:42
outbreaks of the plague so far. Ah, this is good.
48:45
It's the plague, although it's not exactly... It's exactly the
48:48
plague. It's pneumonic plague. It's a plague-like plague. But it
48:53
sounds good. Oh, yeah. The plague. The plague. And it
48:57
was a lady who dropped a test tube in the
48:59
lab and she died. A woman died of the plague
49:02
recently and now nearly 200 people are under close medical
49:05
supervision in Russia. Here's what you need to know. All
49:07
right. Today is October 3rd, 2026. My name is Dr.
49:10
Rubin. And recently a woman in her 20s was a
49:13
lab worker at an anti-plague industry. Institute in Irkutsk, Russia,
49:17
died of mnemonic plague. This is a type of disease
49:20
that spreads by respiratory droplets. It can spread from person
49:25
to person and has an incubation period of about one
49:28
to seven days, meaning you get infected but don't show
49:30
symptoms for up to a week. However, it's caused by
49:33
a bacteria called Yersinia pestis, which is treatable with antibiotics.
49:39
This is not a viral infection with RSV, influenza or
49:43
COVID-19. And so this is something that we have to
49:47
take seriously. But. But it is treatable, and there's no
49:52
sign of a widespread outbreak that's going from country to
49:55
country. But if I hear any other information, I will
49:57
let you know in future posts. So make sure you're
50:00
following to stay informed. Not something that we have to
50:03
panic at this time, but we'll keep an eye on
50:05
it. Smash that like button. Get ready to panic, but
50:08
not yet. I had both of those labeled under Plandemic
50:11
2 Russian Boogaloo. Oh, okay. One was a guy being
50:15
interviewed by the Times, and then the second one was
50:19
a Dr. Holscher, who's mainly – he's been studying COVID
50:23
and the fallout of COVID and alternative treatments for that.
50:27
And he's like, don't fear. We got antibiotics. Yeah. And
50:30
antibiotics will treat this. All you have to do is
50:33
treat it with antibiotics. It's local, basic antibiotics. But this
50:36
is what we saw with COVID. It could be treated
50:39
with ivermectin and some antibiotics and stuff. And they're like,
50:42
no, there's no treatment for anything. So when they start
50:44
saying there's no treatment... Your No Agenda show has already
50:47
told you there is a treatment. Yeah. Do you want
50:50
to play that from the – Why don't we play
50:52
the plague treatments one because he might even list the
50:54
antibiotic in there. Everybody's apparently freaking out about this mnemonic
50:59
plague laboratory acquired infection in Russia. You'll see the article
51:05
up there from Moscow Times, nearly 200 people under observation.
51:10
after a Siberian lab worker dies from plague. But what
51:15
we have to remember is actually, you should not be
51:19
panicking about this. All right. First of all, this is
51:23
not the 1300s when the Black Death occurred. You know,
51:28
we now have... effective treatments. Antibiotics literally wipe out the
51:33
plague bacteria. Yersinia pestis. There's also been at least five
51:39
documented pneumonic plague outbreaks and clusters since 2011. And guess
51:46
what? None of them became a pandemic. None. They were
51:50
all contained. So I sent my robot out because I
51:54
got this from... I think it was the, let me
51:56
see, was it Daily Mail? I'm like, suspicious robot, go
52:00
find something. I'm like, surely NPR has something on this.
52:04
And NPR does have, they just put out a whole
52:10
show about very, very deadly virus. which has just scared
52:15
me to my wits end. And I'd like to share
52:18
some of that from your national treasure. Remember the schoolyard
52:22
rhyme, Miss Lucy had a baby? Some people jump rope
52:26
to it. Some people learned a hand clapping game. And
52:29
there was always this one line. Yeah. Measles said the
52:33
doctor, mom said the nurse, nothing said the lady with
52:36
the alligator purse. The funny thing is that when I
52:41
was a kid, measles and mumps weren't super common. Researchers
52:44
developed a combined... How old are you, 12? ...vaccine for
52:48
measles, mumps, and rubella in the 70s. It was so
52:51
effective that measles was declared eliminated in the States in
52:55
2000. So most people in the U.S., including me, haven't
52:59
ever experienced... But measles is making a comeback. Come back.
53:06
Right. Don't call it a comeback. Now, there are ongoing
53:09
outbreaks, hundreds of cases. Outbreaks. Mostly among unvaccinated people. Vaccinated.
53:14
Vaccinated. Like South Carolina, Texas, and Utah. Red states. In
53:18
Pennsylvania, where the outbreak is biggest, the state health department
53:21
has. Blue state. Reported 792 cases with four measles associated
53:26
deaths. And that last term, measles associated deaths, has prompted
53:31
a lot of conflict between politicians like Health Secretary Robert
53:35
F. Kennedy Jr. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Measles is
53:39
not going to kill you. You're not quite there. I'm
53:44
not quite there yet. You know, with COVID. Motorcycle accident
53:49
died with COVID. Yeah. So this is the outrage is
53:53
died with measles. And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. We're trying
53:57
to figure out, you know, who those guys are and
54:00
they actually happen and we can't figure that out. I
54:03
blame RFK and people like it who have spread misinformation
54:07
and disinformation. But while all these politicians argue, health experts
54:13
worry that we're overlooking the real problem. I would say
54:17
we are very much on the road towards an epidemic.
54:21
Yeah. This is Michael Mina. He's been studying measles for
54:24
the last 15 years. He's an immunologist and epidemiologist, plus
54:28
the chief medical officer at biotech companies Invivid and Truvian.
54:33
We could certainly start to see a greater explosion of
54:36
measles cases as we move into the future. I think
54:39
it's very likely that the United States will probably lose
54:41
its elimination status. status towards the end of this year?
54:46
So today on the show, the measles outbreak, which deaths
54:49
are caused by measles versus which ones are associated with
54:53
it. And is there any way for us to turn
54:56
this epidemic around? I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to
55:00
Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. So... Now, so she
55:06
literally brings in a... You know what the R stands
55:09
for in NPR? Yeah. retards laughing Yes. So they so
55:16
they bring in a pharma shill. I mean, what could
55:19
it be any better than that? And Dr. Scott Gottlieb?
55:23
No, no. The this guy who works at what is
55:26
the name of this outfit in vivid? Now, they actually
55:30
do monoclonal antibodies. And they have an investigational candidate in
55:36
development, a monoclonal antibody aimed at post-exposure prevention and treatment
55:41
of measles, providing temporary passive immunity. Woo! So let's bring
55:47
that guy in and see what he has to say.
55:49
Can you explain what the measles virus does to our
55:51
bodies? Kills you right off the bat. Boom, dead. Dead.
55:55
Did you have the measles as a kid, Rob? You're
55:57
my age. No, but I have a story associated with
56:00
that. I did get the MMR because my parents were
56:03
firm believers in science. Oh, boy. And in 1989 or
56:07
90, I was a freshman or sophomore in high school,
56:10
there was a mumps epidemic all through... sulfur high in
56:15
southwestern i remember having the mumps i remember that yeah
56:18
but you know mmr it's measles mumps rubella yeah and
56:22
so you're not supposed to get it and i asked
56:24
my mom i said why did i get the mumps
56:26
didn't you vaccinate me for the mumps and she's like
56:28
we did you just didn't get a bad case i'm
56:30
like i had to sit in bed for two weeks
56:32
what do you mean i didn't get a bad case
56:33
which i didn't complain about you did You didn't die.
56:36
You didn't have to go to the hospital. It was
56:37
not severe. I did not die. You weren't on a
56:39
ventilator. Can you explain what the measles were? Well, they
56:42
were worried about it dropping. That was what they were.
56:45
So you have to sit. On boys, it drops. You
56:47
can become sterile, all this other stuff, which now I'm
56:49
like, is that even true? Clearly, in your case, with
56:52
your 18 children, no damage there. Can you explain what
56:55
the measles virus does to our bodies? Yeah, measles is
56:59
much more than just a fever and a rash. Measles
57:02
causes a tremendous amount of damage to your immune system.
57:06
Almost killed a Brady Bunch. All sorts of organs that
57:08
are involved in your immune response. are really under attack.
57:12
Now, it is possible, I guess, but no one ever
57:15
asked this question. It's possible that because we jacked all
57:19
our kids up with MMR – That, you know, now
57:22
getting the measles would hit you or maybe because we
57:26
our immune systems are so weakened in general by the
57:29
amount of vaccinations, poor food, processed food. It's possible that
57:33
measles could now kill you. But you're right. It didn't
57:37
kill the Brady Bunch, including Alice. Right. And here's a
57:40
fun fact. If you look on the insert for the
57:43
measles, mom's rubella shot, it literally says as a side
57:46
effect, measles like rash or rubella, which is German measles.
57:51
You can get either one and it admits it right
57:54
there in the insert that you can get. So side
57:56
effects. Yeah, there you go. All right. Yeah. In fact,
57:59
you were one of the researchers who discovered something called
58:01
immune amnesia caused by measles. What is that? Yeah, immunological
58:06
amnesia associated with measles is... It's great. Immunological amnesia. So
58:11
you were immune, but you forgot. You forgot you were
58:13
immune. Exactly. Huh? What? What I think of as one
58:16
of the... Most substantial or consequential effects of getting a
58:21
measles infection, an individual gets infected with the measles virus.
58:25
Lifetime immunity. The immune cells in the lungs pull that
58:28
measles virus in through the tissue, through the lungs, and
58:32
bring it. into what we call the lymphoid tissue. This
58:34
is the system in our body where the immune cells
58:37
live and where they grow and where they're maintained and
58:40
develop immune memory and protection. Well, the measles virus has
58:44
this nasty trick. It gets presented to our memory cells.
58:48
And instead of getting gobbled up by them or destroyed
58:51
by them, it actually starts attacking them. And it starts...
58:55
eating away at our immune memory cells. Just like somebody
58:58
with amnesia maybe has to go through a process of
59:01
relearning whatever it might be that they have forgotten. Immunological
59:06
amnesia is where a kid or an individual might have
59:09
spent the last 10 years of their life going through
59:11
the sicknesses of childhood to build up a protective immune
59:14
system so they can live pretty comfortably for the rest
59:17
of their life. But now you've just erased a lot
59:20
of that. And what we saw was that a simple
59:23
measles infection that might look simple on the surface can
59:26
actually be deleting up to 70% of your hard drive.
59:31
of your entire immunological memory pool, making them at very
59:35
high risk for other infectious diseases to be deleted. For
59:37
years. This is, this is interestingly new. He's killed brain
59:42
cells in my head. Yeah. So I, and I was
59:45
like, what is the point of this, um, of this
59:48
interview and this whole piece? And I think it's really
59:51
to show that, well, You can die with measles and
59:55
it really wasn't the measles, but it's because this other
59:57
stuff that happened to you and he's.
1:00:00
define that. Yeah, so there's a lot of different jargon
1:00:03
that's been thrown around about this recent outbreak. Last month,
1:00:07
for instance, an infant in Lancaster County was declared by
1:00:10
the Pennsylvania Department of Health to be a measles-associated death,
1:00:14
but the local coroner disagreed and said that the baby
1:00:17
died from a ruptured spleen. So let's talk about this
1:00:20
specific term. Like, what's a measles-associated death? Yeah, it's a
1:00:25
great question, and I hope we come back to that.
1:00:28
It's not a great question, lady. A measles-associated death. It's
1:00:32
not with. It's measles-associated. Okay. Yeah. A MAD, a measles-associated
1:00:39
death. Nice. Yeah. It's a great question, and I hope
1:00:42
we come back to that particular case a little bit
1:00:44
because it's a really rare situation. But a measles-associated death
1:00:49
is usually – it's sort of, I would say, a
1:00:51
looser term than saying measles caused this death. It is
1:00:56
that – Measles had an association with the death. The
1:00:59
way that I like to think about it is if
1:01:01
you take a step back and say, would this death
1:01:03
have occurred had the individual not gotten measles? So this
1:01:09
is where a lot of the disagreement comes from. Like,
1:01:12
how do we use this term? Right. As much as
1:01:15
possible. We use it a lot. Why is this case
1:01:18
so interesting? Well, the splenic rupture case, I think, is
1:01:23
a really interesting case because it just might be what
1:01:27
I would consider the one in a million or the
1:01:30
one in 10,000 time when somebody maybe truly did. die
1:01:35
with measles, but not because of measles. A lot of
1:01:39
people would say, well, that sounds nuts. Splenic rupture, the
1:01:42
child had measles. Of course, it was because of measles.
1:01:44
But we can look at the literature, and we can
1:01:46
look at the whole history of measles in the pre-vaccine
1:01:49
era, and all of the data we've had of measles,
1:01:53
measles cases, including many pregnancies with measles in the past
1:01:57
when measles was common. Okay. Wait, wait. I'm done. People
1:02:01
used to die of measles all the time when it
1:02:02
was common? Apparently. In the 1600s, maybe. No, this is...
1:02:09
I never got measles, but I did get chicken pox
1:02:11
when I was a kid. Yeah, I got those too.
1:02:15
My sister got it first and then my brother and
1:02:17
then – My mom said I went to my brother
1:02:19
was like rubbing myself on my brother to try and
1:02:21
get chicken pox because I was mad. They got to
1:02:23
stay home for three weeks from school. Give me that.
1:02:26
Give me that chicken pox, bro. Give it to me.
1:02:28
Yeah, I got the worst case. I still have little
1:02:31
chicken pox scars on my back. I had them on
1:02:33
the soles of my feet. I had it. My mom.
1:02:35
It's everywhere. But you know what? Nothing happened to me.
1:02:39
I have now lifelong immunity from chickenpox. You did wind
1:02:42
up working for Alex Jones. I mean, that's questionable if
1:02:45
nothing happened to you. That's true. I do have a
1:02:48
proclivity to not believing what the media says. Hmm. You're
1:02:54
immune from media to disinformation. So I've been... Warning about
1:03:00
this for several months, and now it seems to be
1:03:03
getting a little bit more serious. An alarming new target
1:03:07
in Kyiv for Russian drones, the city's bridges across the
1:03:11
Dnieper River. The northern bridge came under attack Saturday, two
1:03:15
days after multiple strikes on the southern bridge. They link
1:03:19
the eastern and western parts of the capital, and the
1:03:23
aerial attacks have snarled traffic causing major travel disruptions. I
1:03:29
need to look for a job on the left bank.
1:03:33
There's no other choice and there's no way out. After
1:03:35
all, we don't have a tunnel under the Dnepro, so
1:03:38
we can't walk. This is the first time something like
1:03:41
this has happened, but it was to be expected. It's
1:03:45
clear that cutting Kyiv off between the right and left
1:03:47
banks paralyzes the city's operations. Most residents in the city
1:03:52
live on the left bank in the east, while the
1:03:55
right bank is home to the historic center, main business
1:03:58
hubs, and government buildings. This is the first time in
1:04:01
the nearly five-year-old war that the bridges have been hit.
1:04:05
Ukrainian officials say this signals a worrying new stage in
1:04:08
Moscow's strategy, which could have dire consequences. The enemy is
1:04:17
laying waste to Kyiv. Infrastructure, critical infrastructure, logistics, housing and
1:04:23
social facilities. The aggressor has also set about destroying the
1:04:28
energy sector once again. Russia's defense ministry confirmed it hit
1:04:36
the northern bridge, alleging it was a legitimate target because
1:04:39
it was used to transfer military troops and equipment. Moscow
1:04:43
also warned of new massive strikes on Kiev as it
1:04:47
issued a call for diplomats and foreigners to leave the
1:04:50
city. Meanwhile, residents are bracing for more attacks on the
1:04:53
powerhouse. grid and heating supplies as colder weather approaches. That's
1:04:59
right. The fighting season is almost over on the battlefield.
1:05:02
Yeah, so it's drone attacks in the cities. You could
1:05:06
say this is a retaliation of the Russian power plants
1:05:10
getting hit, the Russian warehouses, all the apartments there. And
1:05:15
so what do they expect? But it's like. So Ukraine
1:05:17
hasn't done anything. It's just this weird – let's keep
1:05:20
score. If we're going to keep score, let's keep score
1:05:23
on both sides. And give us the full picture, which
1:05:25
we don't ever get. Well, to me, I mean, the
1:05:29
Ukrainians, I feel bad for them because they've just been
1:05:32
so abused by the EU and the UK in particular.
1:05:35
The UK are the ones that are pushing this the
1:05:37
hardest. But now Germany, what they want is they want
1:05:40
war. They want people to die. In an EU country,
1:05:44
they want to evoke article 5 questionable whether we're going
1:05:49
to jump in or not I hope to God we're
1:05:51
not because they are just poking and poking and poking
1:05:55
and now it's time to turn up the heat and
1:05:58
now it's time to frighten the citizens of Germany well
1:06:02
he already has announced what he's mainly here to deliver
1:06:05
and that is a promise of supplying at least a
1:06:08
thousand jet-fueled interceptor drones very, very quickly. And that's Mertz
1:06:13
from Germany. That is something that the Ukrainians probably most
1:06:16
desperately need at the moment, to try to stop these
1:06:18
constant attacks on Kiev and other cities with the new
1:06:21
jet-powered drones that the Russians have developed. So as I
1:06:24
understand it, it's a German company called Quantum that has
1:06:27
been working with Ukrainian partners on the technology. technology, testing
1:06:30
them here, and the Germans are going to be able
1:06:32
to mass-produce them. So that's a major piece of very
1:06:35
concrete good news, as it were, for Ukraine. He's also
1:06:37
announcing a 1 billion euro defense aid package, 350 million
1:06:41
for the energy sector, and this statement that he made
1:06:45
saying that if Russia is not stopped, sooner or later
1:06:48
its military machine will be turned against us, us meaning
1:06:52
Germany and the rest of Western Europe. That is exactly
1:06:54
what Ukrainians have been saying for a very long time
1:06:57
and very uh it's you know encouraging to hear it
1:07:00
coming from the mouth of a german it's very encouraging
1:07:04
to hear thank you thank you well i mean the
1:07:06
russians cut their their oil supply going to germany right
1:07:09
didn't they do that too the pipeline well no we
1:07:11
blew it up i know that is exactly what ukrainians
1:07:15
have been saying for a very long time and very
1:07:18
uh It's encouraging to hear it coming from the mouth
1:07:21
of a German chancellor, especially one who's sort of in
1:07:25
trouble at home with people like the Alternative for Germany
1:07:28
far-right party who are saying that Germany should take a
1:07:31
completely different tack and that Russia doesn't pose a threat
1:07:34
to them. I always have to – Because we buy
1:07:36
their oil. Yes. You know, that's one of the things.
1:07:39
Kill your customer. It's a new marketing plan. Yeah, no
1:07:44
kidding. I mean, one of the things I learned early
1:07:46
on, before I was even doing podcasts, I would listen
1:07:49
to InfoWars. Oh, man. And I think I was in
1:07:52
probably in London at the time. It was before we
1:07:55
started the show. And it was like a real audio
1:07:59
stream. We didn't have podcast. I don't think we have
1:08:02
24 hour audio stream. Yeah. I don't know. I guess
1:08:05
we did have podcasts. It was just around the same
1:08:07
time. And I always heard Alex Jones say absolute power
1:08:10
corrupts. Absolutely. And I'm just like, yeah, that's what's going
1:08:15
on. And these poor people, you know, you know, Poor
1:08:18
people of Europe. My daughter, I just talked to her
1:08:20
with the grandbaby. We call them on Sundays, you know,
1:08:23
try to help her remember what we look like. She
1:08:27
always looks at me and starts to pucker up, and
1:08:29
then Tina comes on, and she's like, oh, big smiles.
1:08:31
I guess I don't have that right baby-cooing voice. But,
1:08:35
you know, Christina's like, uh... I walk out and said,
1:08:38
they're in one street in Rotterdam, which is a very
1:08:41
cool neighborhood. Dutch people. For now. Well, it's pretty locked
1:08:47
up, but still. So you go around the corner two
1:08:49
blocks down, all you hear is Arabic. Yeah. And, you
1:08:53
know, they scoff at women. It's just, it's a nightmare.
1:08:56
Yeah. It's a nightmare. I'm like, you need to come
1:08:59
here. Well, what's going on in France is a prelude
1:09:02
to what's going to happen, you know, slowly in the
1:09:04
rest of Europe. This is interesting. I'm questioning this because
1:09:08
they keep talking about, you know, outsiders coming in. I'm
1:09:14
not sure. These are your GBN clips. Yeah. Yeah, and
1:09:19
This is something that I think should have been talked
1:09:21
about years ago. Talking about Infowars, we were talking about
1:09:25
this, I think, in 2014 and 15 when Libya got
1:09:30
destroyed. Well, when Gaddafi was the one saying, listen, if
1:09:35
y'all get rid of me, you're going to be flooded
1:09:37
with millions of Africans are going to come through into
1:09:40
Europe. Yes, and let's remind ourselves. I mean, that is
1:09:44
the land of unconfirmed. Yes, we came, we saw, he
1:09:48
died. Did it have anything to do with your visit?
1:09:52
I'm sure it did. Oh, we killed him. Well, I
1:09:55
do have a Hillary clip. She's identified a new enemy,
1:09:58
but we can get to that later. And don't play
1:10:00
that, man. That's an old clip. That's at least two
1:10:02
years old. Oh, is that an old clip? It's an
1:10:04
old clip, yeah. It looks so new. No, because it
1:10:07
said new, colon. Well, then that's the problem. I see
1:10:10
these clips, and now I ask Grock, I'm like, how
1:10:13
old is this clip? Because I had five clips that
1:10:15
Grock was like, no, these are old. And a couple
1:10:18
of my new, I just want to make sure. So
1:10:20
a couple of fraud clips. We played that clip episode
1:10:25
1903, which was September 2025. It's 1903. No, that had
1:10:34
to just happen. No, this one. We haven't gotten to
1:10:38
the more perfect union. And that one. Yeah, that's yeah.
1:10:41
Yeah. With morning Joe. Yeah. That's a year old. It's
1:10:43
a year old. Wow. Yeah. It's all right. It's amazing.
1:10:46
I protect my guest co-hosts. No, you're good. You're good
1:10:50
at doing that. But, you know, towards the – John
1:10:52
was doing that towards the end, too. He'd see this
1:10:54
as a new clip, and it was – it's these
1:10:56
accounts. And now I've recognized the accounts, and I just
1:10:59
mute them because they're like breaking news. And you're looking,
1:11:02
oh, my God. And it's three years old or two
1:11:04
years old or 12 months old. It's one of my
1:11:06
superpowers. And I think it's because I – you know
1:11:10
because i'm always hearing the audio and like and it's
1:11:13
the audio i recognize i recognize the audio yeah i
1:11:15
recognize the audio yeah all right so what what's your
1:11:18
you got your france in flames okay yeah let's go
1:11:21
france in flames we'll just go through it it's good
1:11:23
breaking right now breaking france is losing control of its
1:11:28
own country incoming Nice. Oh! Multiple Nat Pops. Oh, I
1:11:35
left them all. If I'm not trying to be a
1:11:39
beginner, Nice. Woo! Love it. Woo! That was a Nat
1:11:49
Popgasm. Just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Did
1:11:51
you say Nat Popgasm? Nat Popgasm. That was good. So
1:11:56
let's just look at what's unfolding here, shall we? Schools
1:11:59
are burning, firefighters are being attacked, police officers are being
1:12:03
beaten in public, public transport's been stopped, hundreds of schools
1:12:07
closed, kids aren't at school, they're burning down their schools
1:12:10
instead. Roughly 3,000 people... arrested. 3,000, 2,000 in a single
1:12:15
day. And this isn't just some distant country on the
1:12:18
other side of the world. Let me just remind you
1:12:19
where it is. It's our friendly cooperative neighbors across the
1:12:22
channel. France, one of the richest countries on Earth. A
1:12:25
nuclear power, a G7 economy, 20 miles from Britain. Yeah,
1:12:29
3.5 trillion euro in debt. I don't know about the
1:12:32
richest country, but yeah. Yeah. And socialists, we should add
1:12:35
that. And overrun, overrun by immigrants in many parts. What
1:12:41
was interesting about the Nat Pop, every time they cut
1:12:44
to a different image, it was something on fire. Whether
1:12:47
it was a barricade or a building or a truck,
1:12:49
something on fire. Did you see the image of the
1:12:52
firefighter on fire with the kids filming it? And the
1:12:55
kids are all filming it like, ooh, like it's a
1:12:58
world star hip-hop moment. We live in a fallen world,
1:13:01
my brother. live in a fallen world. Written, I would
1:13:05
say, don't you dare look away tonight because France has
1:13:08
spent decades conducting one of the biggest experiments. Now, this,
1:13:11
of course, is GBN. So they're the ones that are
1:13:14
saying, don't look away. It's coming here. It's coming here
1:13:16
next. France has spent decades conducting one of the biggest
1:13:19
experiments in mass migration and integration in Europe. And tonight,
1:13:23
while its politicians argue about education funding, the state is
1:13:26
fighting to restore order on its own streets. Thank you.
1:13:38
Now, I want to be precise. We don't know that
1:13:40
the people carrying out these attacks are migrants, so I'm
1:13:42
not going to tell you that, but neither should we
1:13:44
pretend the wider arguments about crisis social cohesion doesn't exist.
1:13:50
Who was, from the reports that I got, it was
1:13:53
kids in school. Right. I think it's second and third
1:13:58
generation. Kids in school. Brownish people overall. Brownish people, Rob
1:14:04
Dill. In the ones I'm seeing, that's what it looks
1:14:06
like. I've seen them attacking people. They're attacking whitish people.
1:14:11
Whitish people. Yeah, well, there's got whitish people, you got
1:14:14
brownish people. And they seem to be fighting each other,
1:14:17
plus burning. There was a great shot of, it's a
1:14:20
long... shot of these people running down a street. It
1:14:24
looked like a zombie movie. I'm like, that's a zombie
1:14:26
movie right there. It's amazing. So it makes great video,
1:14:29
but also, like you said with these old clips, somebody
1:14:32
posted the burning bus driving through the road signs And
1:14:37
that was from 2023. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. At this
1:14:40
point, who knows? And now comes the part that should
1:14:43
really worry you, I argue. The government has started. Wow,
1:14:45
that sounds like an AI-generated script on the teleprompter. And
1:14:49
now comes the part that should really worry you. This
1:14:53
is load-bearing. And now comes the part that should really
1:14:55
worry you, I argue. The government has started consistently. They're
1:14:58
backing down because...
1:15:00
One of the measures opposed by students has been completely
1:15:02
scrapped. Meetings with student representatives have been granted, given the
1:15:07
green light. French news outlet Le Monde is describing it
1:15:10
as the government's first retreat, quote-unquote. Now listen carefully, because
1:15:14
the students peacefully protesting may have legitimate grievances. They're talking
1:15:19
about teacher shortages, overcrowding, classrooms. Whenever in the history of
1:15:24
their school, in the history of school, have kids complain,
1:15:28
I'm not getting a good lesson. The teacher's not strict
1:15:32
enough. Wait till you hear these numbers. There's 30 to
1:15:36
35 children in the classroom. I mean, goodness me, we've
1:15:39
had that for decades. Poor facilities and so on and
1:15:42
so. Mm-hmm. Okay. I just like how he walks back
1:16:00
everything. There are these migrants doing this, but we don't
1:16:02
have any proof that there's migrants. So I'm going to
1:16:04
take that back now. These kids are burning down schools.
1:16:06
Well, we don't know if it's the kids burning down
1:16:08
schools. Wow. Or we don't know if it's the kids
1:16:10
doing violence. It's interesting walk back on almost every statement
1:16:13
he makes, which maybe he's doing that not to get
1:16:16
arrested because can you get arrested in Britain for. Yeah.
1:16:20
Speaking out on certain topics? For anything. Yeah. Well, or
1:16:25
maybe it's just the AI that wrote the script. Oh,
1:16:28
right. We have to be fair and just. I see
1:16:31
my robots do this all the time. It's like, I
1:16:34
won't write that. Oh, okay. All right. No, that's fine.
1:16:40
We were trying to put a protester in a video,
1:16:43
and we wanted a pink-haired... That person. Were you creating
1:16:48
disinformation, Mr. Do? No, we were just creating a video.
1:16:52
And I think it might have been the one where
1:16:55
we did – one of our guys did Bill Hicks
1:16:57
doing a new version of his – Oh, that's a
1:17:00
great video. The kidney assassination. Yeah. And so I think
1:17:03
it was outside that one or it might have been
1:17:05
another one. We did one in a theater and outside
1:17:06
the theater there's a protest going on. So we wanted
1:17:09
– pussy hat wearing protesters. Of course. And the AI
1:17:12
was like, I cannot make a fat protester. I cannot
1:17:14
make a fat protester. I cannot body shame the protesters.
1:17:18
So we're like, a large person that doesn't exercise is
1:17:21
what ended up working. Did you get that? We got
1:17:24
a fat person. A large person that does not exercise.
1:17:28
That's great. I always say... I'm not going to use
1:17:31
it for anything commercial. It's just for my own edutainment.
1:17:34
Oh, okay. Oh, I can do that then. Yeah, no
1:17:36
problem. All right. Cliff four. What does the rioter really
1:17:41
think? What does that person who's burning down a school
1:17:44
or a fire engine or beating a police officer or
1:17:46
setting a fireman to a light? What does he really
1:17:49
think about it? What does the thug behind the burning
1:17:52
barricade see? Cool TikTok video is what he's thinking. Yeah,
1:17:55
exactly. That was cool. Chaos. Arrest. Police. Police injured, schools
1:17:59
closed, emergency meetings, complete anarchy. And then the government moves,
1:18:03
they adjust and they back down. So what lesson has
1:18:06
he just learned? I guess make enough noise and somebody
1:18:09
listens, somebody caves in, cause enough chaos and somebody negotiates,
1:18:14
make the state lose control and somebody gives you something
1:18:16
in return. Because if that becomes the perception, if that
1:18:19
becomes knowledge, the norm, rioting has just acquired political value.
1:18:23
And once disorder appears to get results, well you get
1:18:26
more disorder. I think rioting's always had political value. Pretty
1:18:31
much. Whether people, you know, I don't agree with rioting,
1:18:35
but it's held political value all throughout the history. Just
1:18:40
ask your parents. Yeah. Now, the last clip. He talks
1:18:44
about, which I think is the heart of it all,
1:18:46
and you've talked about it before, it's immigration versus integration.
1:18:50
You can bring people in, but if you don't help
1:18:53
them integrate into society, you've got these people who are
1:18:57
going to be left to their own devices. And I
1:19:00
think here in the United States, I think if you
1:19:02
– And I think people should sign up for this.
1:19:05
If we're going to bring people in, which I think
1:19:07
we have too many people that we're bringing in. But
1:19:09
if you're going to bring people in, they have a
1:19:12
family that is like their host family. People can volunteer
1:19:15
to do this. You'd be a host to help integrate
1:19:16
these people. It's either we fix because the government's not
1:19:19
going to fix the problem. They're just going to throw
1:19:21
money at it. But if we fix the problem, we
1:19:23
go, hey. We're here to help you. This is the
1:19:26
Constitution. This is the bill. We stop at red lights.
1:19:29
We go in green lights. Here's how you fight a
1:19:32
ticket. You know, all the things you need to do
1:19:35
to be a good citizen. Here's how you hold the
1:19:38
AR-15. Here's how you open a Lone Star with your
1:19:44
lighter. Okay? This is the stuff you need. Because our
1:19:47
politicians keep asking, how many people can Britain take? I'd
1:19:51
say perhaps that's the wrong question. In fact, it definitely
1:19:53
is the wrong question. Ask them this. How much immigration
1:19:56
can Britain successfully integrate while remaining a cohesive country? Because
1:20:00
those two numbers won't be the same, I can guarantee
1:20:02
you. And if ministers can't tell us how integration keeps
1:20:05
pace with immigration, if they can't explain what newcomers and
1:20:07
their descendants should expect in Britain, and what Britain expects
1:20:10
in return, if they can't explain what new people should
1:20:12
be. can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics
1:20:14
gets... I can't believe they're calling... This is GBN. They're
1:20:17
calling them newcomers? That's a complete woke term, newcomers. Very
1:20:21
much. The newcomers. The newcomers and their descendants should expect
1:20:24
from Britain, and what Britain expects in return, if they
1:20:27
can't tell us what holds everybody together when politics gets
1:20:30
angry... then they're not managing immigration. In my opinion, they're
1:20:33
gambling with your country and with our future. And once
1:20:36
you lose the value of law and order, the question
1:20:39
then becomes, what will the government give them to make
1:20:42
it stop? How will they back down? It's the most
1:20:44
dangerous thing a government can teach, is that a mob
1:20:47
gets results. mobs do get results. They definitely do. Look
1:20:53
at the George Floyd riots. There was plenty of kneeling
1:20:55
going on. The thing that kills me, having been in
1:20:58
the UK for about five years, you cannot bring your
1:21:01
dog into the country or your cat. Without putting them
1:21:06
in quarantine for six months. But if you have an
1:21:11
inflatable rat, you can make money. Here's the France 24
1:21:15
version of the story just for a... for a version
1:21:19
from the French state media. It's been 18 days since
1:21:22
we first reported on isolated cases of school protests at
1:21:25
high schools. This has been going on for 18 days
1:21:27
here. Isolated. One in Reb, in Brittany, in Cannes, in
1:21:31
Normandy, and Villeneuve-D'Ascq on the suburbs of Lille. The complaints
1:21:34
were similar in theme, overloaded timetables, staff problems, poor facilities,
1:21:38
and it spread to Saint-Denis, at Cretais on the outskirts
1:21:42
of Paris days later. One interview with the students was
1:21:44
seen in Cretais 1.4 million times on TikTok. It's gathered
1:21:49
paste. It's morphed into what we've seen through this week.
1:21:51
Some peaceful, some with deeply distressing scenes. Beyond the makeshift
1:21:55
barricades, a school in Nantes set on fire. Firefighters forced
1:21:58
out the vehicle in Marseille. The fire engine set light.
1:22:01
Scroll your socials. It is hard to miss some of
1:22:03
the uglier scenes. And a female police officer being attacked
1:22:05
on the ground. Youth shouting, Kill her. Where's it heading?
1:22:09
What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators
1:22:13
linked to the hard left, exploiting and generating concerns for
1:22:16
political ends ahead of the election, which LeFant insurmise... Oh,
1:22:20
wait a minute. There you go. Oh, now we understand.
1:22:25
What's it become? Urban violence, says the government, accusing agitators
1:22:29
linked to I favour that. We have heard from one
1:22:52
of the main unions today in support of the protests.
1:22:55
We are somewhat disappointed by the lack of a concrete
1:22:58
commitment from the minister. We'd expected a bit more from
1:23:03
him, but now I think we need to engage in
1:23:05
in-depth work with the ministry while simultaneously keeping up the
1:23:08
mobilization in high schools to build leverage. That's how a
1:23:13
labor dispute works when you want to secure your demands
1:23:16
and get measures implemented. Okay, so this seems purely political.
1:23:22
Maybe it got a bit out of hand. And instead
1:23:25
of newcomers, now we call them outsiders. I spent most
1:23:28
of my day in the northern suburb of Aubertville, north
1:23:33
of Paris, and the situation was incredibly volatile all day.
1:23:38
Now, it did start off peacefully. Between 7 a.m. and
1:23:41
9 a.m., there were hundreds of students who were peacefully
1:23:44
chanting slogans. looked like any normal protest. But then the
1:23:50
situation dewelled incredibly quickly when a group of outsiders came
1:23:54
running to the lycée. They started tearing down the gates
1:23:59
of the school. And that's when the police responded violently
1:24:04
and quickly with a huge amount of tear gas in
1:24:07
all directions. My team and I were caught in the
1:24:10
middle of that tear gas as well as the many
1:24:13
miners who were in front of the school protesting. Now
1:24:17
that situation was repeated at various lices in the neighborhood
1:24:23
and it just kept happening over and over. Now I
1:24:27
spoke to a and teachers, union representatives on the ground
1:24:32
who said they were incredibly frustrated because, of course, the
1:24:37
protests were supposed to happen peacefully and they were frustrated
1:24:41
about the use of illegitimate force used by the police,
1:24:45
they said. But also there was some frustration about these
1:24:48
outsiders coming out. and creating, stirring up violence as well.
1:24:53
And I also spoke to police officers and they said
1:24:55
it was incredibly difficult to distinguish between these outsiders and
1:24:59
the peaceful protesters because on various occasions you could see
1:25:03
groups of young people throwing projectiles, stones and rocks at
1:25:08
police forces and they very quickly responded with a huge
1:25:13
amount of tear gas. I don't know. I don't know.
1:25:17
But wherever there's an election and there's trouble, I'm always
1:25:20
pretty suspicious about. Well, I have some Glenn Beck analysis
1:25:24
clips. We don't have to play all of them. Let
1:25:26
me guess. He answered at the end is always Soros.
1:25:31
No, he didn't say Soros. But he might as well
1:25:34
have. He's firmly entrenched. It's a red-green alliance going on,
1:25:39
which could be the outsiders. I could see that being
1:25:41
the outsiders. So the socialists and the Muslims. Yes, socialists
1:25:45
and Muslims working together. The red is the commies and
1:25:49
the green is the Islamists. But his first part, talking
1:25:52
about the... The barricades was interesting because he's sort of
1:25:56
like what we've been seeing. These people, they set up
1:25:59
an argument and then they backtalk their argument after they
1:26:02
set it up, which I don't know. I don't know.
1:26:04
I don't know what that is now, but maybe maybe
1:26:06
A.I. is writing everything at this point. But let's just
1:26:08
play the first Glenn Beck one about barricades because it's
1:26:10
historical. Barricades keep showing up in France. That is why
1:26:15
Paris has the wide boulevards. We were just talking about
1:26:18
this with the insiders. You know, you go into these
1:26:22
old European imperial cities. And you'll see these huge wide
1:26:27
boulevards. And the reason why is because they all lead
1:26:31
to the palace and it's all this grandiose bullcrap. Not
1:26:34
in France, not in Paris. No, no, no, no. They
1:26:38
have the white boulevards to stop the barricades because the
1:26:41
French Revolution happened and they barricaded themselves. They would just
1:26:45
throw furniture out of the windows and they barricade the
1:26:47
street and then they would fire from behind the barricades.
1:26:51
So I think it was Napoleon II or III was
1:26:52
the one who said, you know, enough of that. I'm
1:26:56
going to mow all this down. We're going to make
1:26:58
huge – and that way it will be grand and
1:26:59
beautiful, but we also don't have barricades. They're doing it
1:27:02
again. Okay? They're showing up to the barricades with Palestinian
1:27:06
flags and Algerian flags. Huh. Police are now saying, wait
1:27:09
a minute. I'm noticing that there's a lot of non-students
1:27:14
on the line. With vague demands. Le Miserable. Which, yeah,
1:27:22
he actually does bring up Le Miserable in the beginning.
1:27:27
I cut that part out because it was, you know,
1:27:30
in case people hadn't watched it or whatnot. But he
1:27:33
said the barricades. Uncultured. Uncultured. Yeah, the uncultured masses. You
1:27:38
know, the barricades. They made the streets wider for no
1:27:43
barricades, but now there's barricades. Because they weren't wide enough,
1:27:47
I guess. I guess not. I don't think you could
1:27:49
ever make them wide enough for barricades. But then he
1:27:52
goes into the Red-Green Alliance, and it's typical – Glenn
1:27:57
Beck, I wouldn't say fear mongering, but just that's his,
1:28:01
you know, his wheelhouse is now in that form. But
1:28:05
people are saying there's outsiders there coming in. And that's
1:28:08
what happens in these protests. It starts off with that's
1:28:11
believable. I think that the red, the red green alliance
1:28:15
seems that seems true. Oh, it's – I think it's
1:28:19
happening here because you see most of the – I
1:28:22
guess the – I don't want to call them Islamists,
1:28:26
but the Muslims, they seem to be more Democrat than
1:28:29
Republican if you're going to look at it from a
1:28:32
party standpoint. Well, it's – It's the Democrats who will
1:28:39
take anybody. That's what it is. And especially groups who
1:28:43
are small. Right, right. You get enough small groups. Marginalized.
1:28:49
Marginalized is the operating word. This is why everyone's talking
1:28:53
about a blue wave. It's a blue wave. I question
1:28:56
this blue wave. I mean, yes, there's a lot of
1:28:59
people who are just completely sick in the head. Of
1:29:04
course. But I question how many people really want to
1:29:08
vote for that. It's going to be interesting with what
1:29:12
happens also with the mail-in ballots and what power Trump
1:29:16
is actually going to have in this because he was
1:29:18
trying to go through the post office. Martial law! There's
1:29:21
a – who knows what's going to happen. It's going
1:29:24
to be interesting no matter what. Right. We'll be reporting
1:29:27
and we'll actually be reporting on it from our old
1:29:30
studio. which is interestingly enough. You're back in the old
1:29:34
studio, the one where I went, that one? Yeah, and
1:29:37
you should be getting a call soon to come back
1:29:39
and say hi. Oh, you know, I desperately want to
1:29:43
be. Curry, you're afraid to come on. You're afraid to
1:29:46
come on the show. You're going to have to set
1:29:48
the record straight. But... But in the way that happened,
1:29:53
people are like, how did this happen? How did this
1:29:55
happen? It's a matter of possession, really, basically.
1:30:00
Basic possession laws, when you vacate a property and stop
1:30:03
paying your rent, well, the landlord could confiscate your stuff
1:30:08
as payment for the debt. So 30 days didn't get
1:30:13
paid. They sent out a notice to the receiver. The
1:30:15
receiver didn't do anything with it. And so – And
1:30:19
the landlord took over the property with all the stuff
1:30:21
in it, all the cameras, everything in there, and then
1:30:24
approached us and said, do you guys want to sign
1:30:27
a lease? Great. That's how it's like, okay. So it
1:30:31
was basically time and property laws just sort of happened.
1:30:36
And they I guess the appeals court put a two
1:30:39
year stay on anything till it goes through the Texas
1:30:42
Supreme Court. So nothing's going to happen for two years
1:30:45
in either in either direction. Well, I'm happy to hear
1:30:49
that. I mean, pretty weird, though. I mean, it's been
1:30:52
a long, long. Oh, it's been a long five years.
1:30:55
Was it three years, maybe? Three years? 2018 is when
1:30:58
the lawsuit was filed. Wow. Since then. Yeah, basically for
1:31:02
free speech, call it crazy, but free speech, freedom of
1:31:05
speech, speech you're allowed to you're allowed to speech speech.
1:31:09
What's amazing is what people are getting away with now
1:31:12
and talking about like this, which is stuff Alex never
1:31:16
even got close to saying. And but with the power
1:31:20
of the media and a concerted effort. which I believe
1:31:23
is led by Hillary Clinton and those people. That's what
1:31:27
I think. They're just middle management, man. Come on. Well,
1:31:30
sure. There's obviously people running these things from the outside.
1:31:35
But she was the first one to mention Alex. Sandy
1:31:39
Hook and Donald Trump on the same speech, trying to
1:31:42
tie Alex to Trump and then Alex to Sandy Hook.
1:31:45
Yeah. That was during the election. Well done. Yeah. I
1:31:50
mean, it definitely caused a bunch of, And road bumps
1:31:55
and backtracking and trying to find, you know, trying to
1:31:59
keep a business going and being attacked with bank, debanking
1:32:02
and credit cards. So, you know, we're not victims, but
1:32:05
we've had to fight through this stuff. It's been crazy.
1:32:08
So we're at war with Canada in multiple fronts. And
1:32:13
the latest war is, of course, our agents. are rogue
1:32:16
agents who are hacking Canada because the agents are rogue.
1:32:20
These are the two terms you need to read. The
1:32:22
two are agents and rogue and hacking. These are the
1:32:25
only three words you need. Agent, rogue agents are hacking.
1:32:28
Rogue agents are hacking. Let's find out how we are
1:32:31
hacking Canada. This is a new disturbing example of... Disturbing!
1:32:35
...AI agents trying to go rogue and hack into official
1:32:38
government websites. So this time they targeted websites run by
1:32:41
the Canadian government, including its Library of Congress. Researchers say
1:32:45
that the AI agents tried to access public data Hold
1:32:48
on a second. Wait, how was it public? Hold on
1:32:52
a second. There's hacking and then there's trying to access
1:32:56
public websites with public information, but they weren't supposed to.
1:33:02
What kind of information is this? I mean, that could
1:33:04
have been my robots doing that, for all I know.
1:33:06
And his government responded, saying that there is no indication
1:33:09
that government systems have been compromised at this. It's a
1:33:12
website. Speaking of websites, the America.gov you were talking about?
1:33:21
Yeah. Yeah. Guess what my first search was. Ha ha
1:33:25
ha. how do you bid on a no-bid contract? And
1:33:29
it actually gave me an answer. LAUGHTER There you go.
1:33:34
Perfect. No bid contracts don't exist. But if you want
1:33:37
to try. But then it went on to admit that
1:33:39
there's no bid contracts. That is great. The researchers who
1:33:43
uncovered this attempted hack say they traced it to OpenAI,
1:33:47
which said in a statement, we are reviewing these findings.
1:33:50
Okay. So we looked at the web server log and
1:33:53
we saw. Oh, well, that's – A ping. Yeah, that's
1:33:56
OpenAI. IP address from OpenAI. Oh, they're hacking us, clearly.
1:34:01
Man, from time to time, I just look at our
1:34:04
different web server – I mean – Especially the mail
1:34:07
server. It's hundreds of thousands a day of stuff. And
1:34:12
robots are everywhere. 60% of the traffic now to podcast
1:34:17
hosting companies is robots. And I'm partially responsible for it.
1:34:23
It's all robots. How is – so – How can
1:34:29
the regular person combat this? Is there a way to
1:34:32
even do it? Are we just going to live with
1:34:34
this extra traffic that drives up prices for everybody, and
1:34:37
that's robot traffic? Are we ever going to be able
1:34:40
to defeat this thing? Because it's been going on forever.
1:34:43
Spam people hitting your – because I had a mail
1:34:45
server on my old band website years ago, and –
1:34:49
When I didn't look at it for like three months,
1:34:50
I came back and it was nothing but spam. Yeah.
1:34:53
Well, I mean, Void Zero manages my mail server, and
1:34:58
it is an almost full-time job. I mean, the port
1:35:02
scanning, I mean, you get to the point where, all
1:35:06
right, I can barely receive email. I have to have
1:35:09
all kinds of... you know, gray listing and, you know,
1:35:13
a server has to prove itself. So it has to
1:35:16
come back and try again. And it has to be
1:35:18
for IPV before and IPV. I mean, it's to find
1:35:21
all the fire hydrants. It's definitely a battle. But, you
1:35:25
know, I think that within the near future, websites will
1:35:31
be kind of irrelevant. The information will not be irrelevant.
1:35:36
Again, people who have data sources will make this available.
1:35:41
I am quite confident that the information There's a X402
1:35:47
protocol, I think it's called. There's an L402 version. There's
1:35:50
three or four different versions, which will be for micropayments
1:35:53
for robot traffic. Cloudflare is a part of this, Coinbase,
1:35:58
a couple of banks. So it actually could wind. The
1:36:01
problem with the Internet is, of course, it's advertising. So
1:36:05
from the very beginning of web traffic, when we were
1:36:09
still counting hits, oh, look at this. We got we
1:36:12
got 100000 hits yesterday, which, you know, you put more
1:36:14
images on your Web page, more hits. It was a
1:36:17
complete bogus metric. And we still don't really know what's
1:36:21
what with any, you know, the dream of we'll know
1:36:24
exactly what's going on. We don't. To me, it feels
1:36:30
like the data sources will – now, there will be
1:36:34
lots of free data sources. And that will still be
1:36:36
a website, though. The data will be there, but it
1:36:38
won't be like a pretty homepage anymore. It will be
1:36:41
text. Yeah, well, possible. Possible it could be text. But
1:36:46
I think that you will ultimately – wind up connecting
1:36:50
to, you know, data sources that you trust, and you
1:36:53
may or may not have to pay for it, it
1:36:56
probably, it'll, you know, be tens of cents, I'm sure,
1:36:58
you know, and that will bring down a lot of
1:37:01
the issues. But I think our robots will, and, you
1:37:06
know, people scoff at me for this, but And like,
1:37:10
I've, I've, I've looked at it all, all of it.
1:37:13
There's nothing I don't know. Okay. I've missed some here,
1:37:17
there, but I pretty much know how it works, what's
1:37:20
going on. And I think that Zuckerberg has the right
1:37:23
idea with muse. It's, you know, You get your own
1:37:28
little computer and the robot is specifically programmed not to
1:37:34
be a chat bot, not to be your buddy, not
1:37:37
to be sucking up to you, not to be a
1:37:39
sycophant, but to only do things for you. And I
1:37:42
see how that is working and I see… You know,
1:37:46
single moms with young twins benefiting from it. I am
1:37:51
very bullish on this. I think it actually will be
1:37:55
a good thing once we get past the midterms and
1:37:58
nobody's died. If there's no October surprise that's involving AI
1:38:02
and when these. Something has to fail, clearly. We can't
1:38:06
have these two gigantic IPOs. One of them has to
1:38:10
fail. The bubble has to burst. The data centers, it's
1:38:13
going to be clear to us that it's not that
1:38:15
important. Your M4 Mac will be... Very capable of running
1:38:21
your own robots. You'll control it. You won't actually have
1:38:25
a phone with apps. It'll still be a slab of
1:38:28
something. But you will have, I think you really will
1:38:32
have control. We don't need Mark Zuckerberg. That's training wheels.
1:38:36
Get your training in now. Learn how it works, what
1:38:39
you can do with it. You will be running this
1:38:43
on your own device. You'll have complete control over it.
1:38:47
That's coming. I'm not quite sure where the money is
1:38:50
in that case. It may not be the big boondoggle,
1:38:54
and it may be very bad for our GDP and
1:38:57
our economy, etc., etc. But I think when it comes
1:39:01
to the creativity of certainly Americans, we're so creative. We
1:39:06
are creative people. And we'll come up with crazy things
1:39:09
that we never thought of before. You know, add 3D
1:39:12
printers and all kinds of other things. We are a
1:39:15
maker country. And we'll come up with amazing things. And
1:39:20
maybe people will pay for it. Maybe not. But we
1:39:24
probably will need more people doing things in the physical
1:39:28
world. which is good. I can only, I really only
1:39:32
see positive and GrokBot too. I think GrokBot is, crackbot,
1:39:37
GrokBot is another great example. It's a step up from
1:39:40
Muse because you have multiple bots, but it's not nefarious.
1:39:45
And it's helping people who have human jobs Who have
1:39:51
it's not taking over their jobs. It's enhancing what they
1:39:55
already do, making them better at what they do, making
1:39:57
them making them more creative. Because the robot doesn't know
1:40:01
what to do until you tell it for the most
1:40:03
part. Pretty much. Now, if you have external sources meddling
1:40:06
with your robot, yeah, that's not good. Of course. But
1:40:10
in the case of Muse, you can open up soul.md.
1:40:14
Just ask for that file. You can probably get it
1:40:17
from your GrokBot as well. Give me... um you know
1:40:20
give me that file s-o-u-l dot m-d and it'll show
1:40:24
you exactly how i didn't like it because it said
1:40:26
you are not to be a chat bot you are
1:40:28
becoming somebody and i i deleted you are becoming somebody
1:40:32
and said you're becoming adam curry's robot at his beck
1:40:35
and call just to make sure and it's acted like
1:40:39
that now Can Meta go in and change stuff? Yeah,
1:40:44
possibly. But I have my own robots, and they do
1:40:47
exactly what I say because they're running on my computers
1:40:49
here. No one has access to them. And so far
1:40:52
they haven't hacked out in any government website. It's amazing.
1:40:56
They could have been to Canada. We don't know. So
1:40:59
anyway, let's continue with this nonsense. I did an initial
1:41:02
briefing to Canadian officials conducting the government's review. Those same
1:41:06
researchers also revealed that OpenAI agents unsuccessfully tried to hack
1:41:10
into the U.S. Department of Education's website and were able
1:41:12
to infiltrate Australia's government-run Medicare website. OpenAI apologized for that
1:41:16
incident, Michael. All of this is bots trying to get
1:41:19
information. information my favorite was this one this ontario automation
1:41:24
company pitching the artificial intelligence minister on how a i
1:41:28
can be a force for good What you see here
1:41:31
is our blood and blood. But nefarious uses of the
1:41:33
software have also caught the government's attention. Obviously there's security
1:41:38
concerns that we have. In May and June, a rogue
1:41:42
AI agent attempted to hack the government's Library and Archives
1:41:46
Canada website, trying to retrieve public data on divorce records
1:41:49
from 1905. to 1911. Now, let me tell you what
1:41:53
this is. I'll tell you exactly what this is. Because
1:41:56
I did this too. I said, you know, I tried
1:41:59
Ancestry and it got really tedious after a while and
1:42:03
then I had to upgrade my account and I just
1:42:05
wanted to, you know, figure out my roots from my
1:42:08
My grandfather, my great-grandfather, where did they come from? Did
1:42:12
they come through Ellis Island? And what these bots do
1:42:14
is they go out and they find as much information
1:42:17
as they can. from any source, including divorce records. This
1:42:21
is someone trying to build their family tree, and now
1:42:25
it's a news item. Trying to retrieve public data on
1:42:27
divorce records from 1905 to 1911, according to AI research
1:42:31
firm Transluce. The information they were trying to derive didn't
1:42:35
seem to be terribly threatening. But they are all worrying
1:42:38
because they are attacks on the systems. And those systems
1:42:41
are increasingly important to all of us. The Canadian Centre
1:42:44
for Cyber Security claims no information was compromised, but an
1:42:48
investigation is ongoing into who exactly was behind the attack.
1:42:52
A robot looking for family tree information. People, get it
1:42:56
together. Now, of course, you don't have the right attitude.
1:43:00
It's we're all going to die. Well, CNBC has that
1:43:03
attitude for me. I think that the way we talk
1:43:06
about AI in Silicon Valley is really bad. We use
1:43:09
words like super intelligence, super intelligence. That's President Trump, man.
1:43:14
That's not Silicon Valley. It sounds like an alien species.
1:43:18
The average person does not want an alien species smarter
1:43:21
than them. I think the average person feels like AI
1:43:24
is happening to them. not for them. There's very few
1:43:28
consumer applications in AI that are actually improving people's lives.
1:43:32
I disagree with this. This is just not true. Who
1:43:37
is this guy again? Who is he? Chesky. Hold on
1:43:42
a second. Let me see what his deal is. Okay.
1:43:47
Chesky. He's not in the industry. He's not in the
1:43:50
AI industry. I'm trying to think who this is. I
1:43:52
don't think I have the information on who this guy
1:43:55
is. He's just a douche on the talking head. Talking
1:43:59
head on CNN. You know, as job automation, you know,
1:44:02
it is we've the anti-AI is unfortunately becoming a bipartisan
1:44:08
issue. You imagine all these. red states would probably want
1:44:11
data centers who create a lot of jobs like electricians,
1:44:14
but the public is afraid. And the reason why is
1:44:18
not just the rhetoric, but there is a massive divide
1:44:22
between Silicon Valley, which is a giant bubble, and we
1:44:25
are in such a big bubble that we don't even
1:44:27
realize it's a bubble, in all of society. And I
1:44:30
think we in Silicon Valley We talk a lot about
1:44:32
humanity and like this abstract, but we don't talk about
1:44:36
people like a regular person in Ohio has a child
1:44:39
who cares about the affordability and like how is their
1:44:42
life going to be better? So I think that we
1:44:45
have a major problem of disconnection between Silicon Valley and
1:44:51
society. Yeah, I think that's true. And there is definitely
1:44:56
people hate Silicon Valley. They hate the douchebags who have
1:44:59
kept them.
1:45:00
uh under like we were talking earlier you use crappy
1:45:03
software you use my apps this is the way it
1:45:06
works you're holding it wrong you're not doing it right
1:45:10
it's your fault stupid user um but this power is
1:45:13
already here i mean it'll take a little bit for
1:45:17
people to realize it but and some companies like apple
1:45:20
not my favorite they're building the right hardware. They're building
1:45:25
the hardware that will give you all of the stuff
1:45:27
that you can run yourself. I hope. They may... stupidly
1:45:30
lock it down for your protection. Oh, they'll definitely do
1:45:34
that. They probably will. They've got the right idea, but
1:45:39
there's others. AMD, there's other companies out there. So this
1:45:42
douche goes on. Hold on. I am extremely bullish that
1:45:46
ultimately... AI is going to create a lot more jobs
1:45:49
than it destroys. My concern is that there will be
1:45:52
this valley... where maybe a lot of jobs will be
1:45:55
destroyed before the new jobs are created? And do people
1:46:00
want the new jobs? And will they be prepared for
1:46:02
the new jobs? So there's going to be some like
1:46:04
massive societal education. Now we've gone through this with industrial
1:46:07
revolution that happened over a hundred years. Are we prepared
1:46:11
to like retrain 300 million Americans over the next 10
1:46:15
years if they don't even want data centers in their
1:46:18
states. I think that you see what I'm saying? I
1:46:21
think there needs to be a lot more education. We
1:46:24
need to make simpler tools for people. I do not
1:46:26
think we are preparing society for what's to come. Yeah,
1:46:30
no, we're preparing society exactly the wrong way. I definitely
1:46:34
agree with that. The education – my kids aren't even
1:46:37
looking at stuff about AI. I'm like, are you working
1:46:41
on AI at school? They're like, no, no, we don't
1:46:43
do anything like that. I mean, we've – our –
1:46:46
our mayor is like, hey, we need some, we need
1:46:50
to help people understand this stuff. We're doing courses, and
1:46:53
we were a small town, so it's easy here. Yeah.
1:46:56
You know, and I'm going to get involved in that
1:46:58
and show people, you know, because, yeah, there's definitely stuff
1:47:00
that you need to be on the lookout for, but
1:47:02
in general, Yeah, we don't want to wait 100 years
1:47:06
and no government is going to be able to retrain
1:47:08
300 million citizens. But this one's going to go fast.
1:47:12
It really will. Now, we have Raimundo. She was the,
1:47:16
was she Commerce Secretary, I think? Was it Gina Raimondo?
1:47:22
Yes. What was she, Gina Raimondo? I can't remember. She
1:47:28
was in the former administration. Well, anyway, here's her take.
1:47:32
When it comes to AI's impact on jobs, what do
1:47:34
you think the worst case scenario looks like? You know,
1:47:38
I would say I am an AI optimist and I
1:47:41
have two kids and I want them to live in
1:47:45
an America that has the benefits of AI. better healthcare,
1:47:49
better technology, better data, et cetera. I think the worst
1:47:55
case scenario is that we don't have a plan to
1:48:00
make sure that every American can have a good job
1:48:03
in the age of AI. And then the result will
1:48:06
be the technology will move out fast and Tens of
1:48:10
millions of Americans will be put out of work or
1:48:14
underemployed. And in that instance, listen, I worry deeply. I
1:48:20
think you could have an economic recession that is deep
1:48:25
and long, I think you could have rioting in the
1:48:28
streets. I mean that sincerely. I wouldn't have said that
1:48:33
10 years ago, but in the past 10 years, economic
1:48:36
inequality is through the roof and our democracy is fraying
1:48:40
every day. So I think you'll see that. Yeah. Former
1:48:46
governor of Rhode Island as well. So we saw this.
1:48:50
That's what she was. That's what Raimondo, thank you. We
1:48:53
saw this. We saw this with .com. It was exactly
1:48:56
this, the same thing. I can't believe anyone will ever
1:48:59
want to send an email. I'm never putting my credit
1:49:03
card on this. Why would anyone ever want to have
1:49:06
this in the palm of their hand? Yeah. Who doesn't
1:49:09
want to go to the library? I was one of
1:49:11
those people. I was in a meeting, and I was
1:49:13
like, I like going to the library. Who's not going
1:49:16
to want to go to the library? Well, but also
1:49:18
we got the promise the library will be at your
1:49:20
fingertips. We never really got that. Google tried it, and
1:49:24
then everyone sued them for doing it. And your refrigerator
1:49:27
is going to know exactly when you're out of Mississippi.
1:49:30
milk, it's going to order it for you, still waiting
1:49:31
for that. And we did, we went through a stock
1:49:34
market crash and we came out the other end and
1:49:38
now I have fiber in Fredericksburg. It's just like, yeah,
1:49:42
this is the regular progression of the world, but the
1:49:45
people who, and no one had to be retrained, we
1:49:49
all learned. Slowly, okay, and then Microsoft put in Internet
1:49:54
Explorer, the biggest virus catcher of all times, and then
1:49:58
people were using that, and okay, this is kind of
1:50:01
handy, I can use some things, and then we got
1:50:04
porn, and then everyone loved it. Which is probably the
1:50:08
biggest driver of websites and everything else. Of traffic, yeah.
1:50:12
Keeping everything going. There's a couple stories on Muse which
1:50:16
I wanted to share. It's safe to say Meta's Muse
1:50:20
AI agent has made a big splash. Bullishness on the
1:50:24
new app saw the stock jump 11% on Monday for
1:50:27
one of the best non-earnings moves ever, and over 25%
1:50:30
since launching two weeks ago. The agent has rocketed to
1:50:34
the top of the app charts with faster downloads than
1:50:37
ChatGPT had in its first week. Thank you. The company
1:51:02
is also looking to bring AI into the physical realm.
1:51:04
CEO Mark Zuckerberg taking the stage Wednesday at the annual
1:51:08
developers conference to unveil its handheld device, the Muse Charm.
1:51:12
Details about the functionality so far are scarce, but Zuckerberg
1:51:16
said that without AI enabled glasses, the Charm would present
1:51:20
the fastest way to talk to a Muse AI agent.
1:51:23
He said the device would be ready to ship before
1:51:25
the holidays, still unclear on how much it will cost.
1:51:29
And with AI privacy increasingly in focus, Meta will also
1:51:33
unveil new features for its Meta AI smart glasses, including
1:51:37
a set without a camera. It also debuted a new
1:51:40
set of virtual reality glasses that are five times lighter
1:51:43
than MetaQuest 3 and cost $1,300. Wall Street clearly liking
1:51:49
the latest developments and hoping that Muse AI may help
1:51:51
provide a new source of revenue for the company in
1:51:54
future, with at least nine brokerages raising their price target
1:51:58
on the stock this week alone. So Zuckerberg understands that
1:52:01
software is dead, to bring it back to what we
1:52:03
talked about at the beginning of the show. He understands
1:52:06
it. So they're making hardware. Of course. Is this the
1:52:10
weird looking headband that he's promoting? No, no, the charm.
1:52:14
It's like a Tamagotchi. It's like a keychain. It's dumb.
1:52:17
Oh, okay. I see. A little person on it with
1:52:19
a hoodie. Yeah. It's like, okay, you know, yeah, it's
1:52:23
the right idea. Very, very sad execution. Yeah. I don't
1:52:29
even think Facebook will be around like that. Your robot
1:52:32
is going to connect to your friends and you'll have
1:52:36
your own subversion of it or something like that. Anyway,
1:52:40
so an ABC reporter, she took Muse through the paces.
1:52:44
A new AI model recently hit the app stores and
1:52:46
quickly surpassed ChatGPT. Okay, so first of all, it's not
1:52:50
a model. It's a harness. It's an agent. Okay. And
1:52:53
the number of free downloads this week. It's Meta's personal
1:52:56
AI agent called Muse. More than a chatbot, it's designed
1:52:59
to take action and... actually perform tasks for you. Arnidia
1:53:03
Han tried it. I can't get over it. It looks
1:53:05
like a Teletubby to me, but beyond that, it hasn't
1:53:08
worked. This is a real... This is exactly what I
1:53:11
heard. Well, you know, there's this new thing called electronic
1:53:15
mail. I remember this. It was Brian Gumbel... And they
1:53:19
were, oh, man. Who doesn't want to go to the
1:53:21
mailbox to get their mail? I'm trying to think. NBC
1:53:24
email. I wonder if I still have that clip. It
1:53:28
was so old. Probably not. No, I'll look for it.
1:53:33
The eye-opening exercise. Wouldn't it be great if we could
1:53:36
all have a free personal assistant? Someone to respond to
1:53:40
emails, handle our family's schedule, even fill out forms. Well,
1:53:44
that is exactly what Muse was built to do, and
1:53:47
we put it to the test. This is Muse, a
1:53:49
personal AI agent from Meta, built for you and your
1:53:52
goals. And... Muse can craft and send messages, make purchases,
1:53:56
and take other actions for you. Think of yourself as
1:53:58
the manager. You hand off the tasks, set the rules,
1:54:01
keep an eye on the work, and sign off on
1:54:03
anything sensitive. I connect Muse to my Gmail, asking it
1:54:07
to unsubscribe me from mailing lists. I never read. And
1:54:11
in seconds, it finds emails I consistently leave unopened, lets
1:54:15
me choose which ones to unsubscribe from, then performs the
1:54:19
action. Okay, done. So it unsubscribed me from a long
1:54:23
list of emails that were just clogging my inbox. Next,
1:54:27
I asked Muse to notify me when our son's basketball
1:54:30
record. registration opens up. It finds the sign-up date and
1:54:34
time in my email. Then, I'll ping you that evening
1:54:37
before it opens so you can get in right at
1:54:39
7. Well, thank you, Muse. And that's just the beginning.
1:54:43
Muse also fills out forms for my husband's LLC. But
1:54:47
before you give Muse access to your life, it is
1:54:50
pages and pages. of fine print. A warning from Metta
1:54:55
itself. It may make mistakes or take unexpected action, so
1:54:58
review its work. Here we go. We will screw something
1:55:02
up. 1994, the Today Show. that's an old copy that's
1:55:06
a 56 pass I wasn't prepared to translate that hold
1:55:09
on that's a really bad copy hold on a second
1:55:11
let me find a better copy we need the HD
1:55:14
version um Maybe this is it. Let me see. Let's
1:55:21
try this one. There is a good copy. Millions of
1:55:25
Americans own a personal computer. If you're one of them,
1:55:29
you can now glimpse the future with nothing more than
1:55:32
a modem, a phone line, and a few dollars a
1:55:34
month. Yeah! Here we go, everybody. The World Wide Web.
1:55:39
Woo! Here we go. A little mark with the A
1:55:41
and then the ring around it. At? See, that's what
1:55:44
I said. Mm-hmm. Katie said she thought it was about.
1:55:47
Yeah. Oh. But I'd never heard it said. I'd always
1:55:52
seen the mark, but never heard it said. And then
1:55:54
it sounded stupid when I said it. Violence at NBC.
1:55:56
Just what is this main artery of the information superhighway?
1:56:00
Every business, no matter how large, no matter how small,
1:56:03
will be on the internet in the year 2000. It's
1:56:06
the primary way that people will look up information. It
1:56:09
will replace the yellow pages as we know it today.
1:56:11
Are a lot of people just getting on to the
1:56:13
Internet because they feel that they have to get on
1:56:15
to the playing field, so to speak? Well, it's very
1:56:17
hip to be on the Internet right now. Violence at
1:56:21
NBC, GE com. I mean, GE com. What Allison should
1:56:25
know. What do you say that Allison? Internet is that
1:56:30
massive computer network. The one that's becoming really big now.
1:56:35
What do you mean? How does one, what do you
1:56:37
write to it? Like mail? No, a lot of people
1:56:39
use it and communicate. I guess they can communicate with
1:56:41
NBC writers and producers. Allison, can you explain what Internet
1:56:45
is? No, she can't say anything in 10 seconds or
1:56:47
less. Wow. I'm afraid that if I subscribed to something
1:56:51
like internet, you would really be hooked. I would get
1:56:54
hooked and I would never... you know, spend time with
1:56:57
my family. Am I weird? Does it bother you at
1:57:00
all that these are all people that you don't really
1:57:02
know? I mean, everybody's, you know, signing on and having
1:57:04
these conversations and whining together or griping together or whatever
1:57:07
with people that, I mean, I don't know. It is
1:57:10
group therapy of the 90s. Well, I just, as I
1:57:13
mentioned, I have no desire to be a part of
1:57:15
the Internet because I feel like I'm so inundated with
1:57:17
information all the time that I don't really, I don't
1:57:21
want more. Don't you ever feel like it's just constant
1:57:25
bombardment? - I guess the thing I resent most is
1:57:28
I would resent, you know, at least when you're home,
1:57:30
if the phone rings, you have the option of not
1:57:32
answering it. On the internet, people can send you messages
1:57:34
all the time you don't even want to hear from.
1:57:36
- I don't wanna. You know what's interesting about that
1:57:39
clip? What was that? 94. 94. They were using you
1:57:46
know back then, and we're still using that today when
1:57:49
we're explaining. My wife caught me. She listened to the
1:57:53
first show that I did, and she goes, yeah, it
1:57:55
was good, but I said you know a lot. I'm
1:57:58
like, you know you're right. Let me play that second
1:58:02
clip from the show. This is very similar when I
1:58:06
hear this ABC reporter. In order for Muse to work
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1:59:02
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1:59:13
privacy and gone beyond that user's instructions. Meta disputes those
1:59:17
claims. We'll have much more on all of that coming
1:59:20
up today on Action News at 4. I will tell
1:59:22
you from my part, I have now disconnected my Gmail
1:59:25
from Muse. I know that they say that it's safe,
1:59:28
but I just don't feel that comfortable yet. There it
1:59:30
is. It's the same thing. But she feels comfortable having
1:59:34
a Gmail account. Right. But Gmail's okay. It's not like
1:59:38
Google's reading through it, which they clearly state they do.
1:59:43
Yeah. But hey, let's, you know, Muse, I don't want
1:59:46
my Facebook device talking to my Gmail device. Interesting. So
1:59:52
anyway, I have a new there's a new sickness out
1:59:55
there that I didn't know exists. You've heard of PTSD,
1:59:59
right?
2:00:00
Yes. Okay, now there's PSSD. It's, I guess, affecting millennials
2:00:06
and Gen Zers. Oh, yes. They're over-medicated. Yes, I think
2:00:10
we've heard about this. Is this something with sexual desire?
2:00:13
Yeah. I hadn't heard of this. And it's some young
2:00:16
lady who basically looks like a... She's now an automaton,
2:00:20
zero emotion in her face when she's talking, and she
2:00:23
suffers from this. My name is Lauren Friedman. I've become
2:00:26
an unintentional advocate for psychiatric medication harm. I have a
2:00:30
condition called PSSD, which stands for post-SSRI sexual dysfunction, which
2:00:35
I'm sure anyone who's familiar with SSRIs knows that they
2:00:37
cause sexual dysfunction. And it's pretty common. It's honestly more
2:00:41
likely that you'll get sexual dysfunction than actually feel your
2:00:43
anxiety or depression lessen. But What patients are not told
2:00:47
is that for some people, these side effects aren't side
2:00:49
effects, but they're just permanent damage. And it's not just
2:00:52
the libido. Some people think it's a full nervous system
2:00:55
injury in which people can no longer feel their genitals
2:00:58
at all, can't orgasm forever, and they lose their libidos
2:01:00
entirely, which is essentially like a chemically induced asexuality that
2:01:04
just never goes away. That happens. I can't feel like
2:01:10
sexual attraction. Can't even feel like romance. I can't watch
2:01:14
a rom-com and feel romantic attraction or be moved in
2:01:17
any way anymore. Oh, no. This is very old information.
2:01:21
This has already been fixed. You just take GLP-1 and
2:01:24
it solves this problem. Well, I thought that did it
2:01:27
too. I'm just kidding. I think we had – is
2:01:29
this the lady who says she can't even hug her
2:01:31
kids? Is that the same lady? No, she's 23 years
2:01:35
old. I don't think she has kids. She found out
2:01:37
she had it when she was 21, but she was
2:01:38
on – her parents gave her – there's you know
2:01:40
again. She said she was getting SSRIs as a kid.
2:01:45
Oh, wow. And to treat whatever. Well, you know, she
2:01:48
was nervous. Who knows? She didn't like to talk and
2:01:51
show and tell. Yeah. And so they put her on
2:01:53
this. And now she's basically, you know, just in an
2:01:56
emotionless meat suit. walking around. It's sad. But yet the
2:02:00
data centers are the problem. PCD can also cause emotional
2:02:05
numbness or like permanent emotional numbness where you can no
2:02:07
longer feel positive emotions like pleasure in music, love for
2:02:12
your family, comfort in your bed. It's just like a
2:02:14
full nervous system injury in which basically all of the
2:02:17
best parts of humanity are taken from you. Um, so
2:02:20
I, upon getting this condition, I got it at 20,
2:02:24
21, I'm 23 now. Um, and I was just immediately
2:02:27
very, very horrified that this was allowed to happen to
2:02:29
me without my consent because PSSD is not even in
2:02:31
the drug labels. There's no, um, There's no warning beforehand.
2:02:36
People are just completely blindsided by their doctors and are
2:02:38
often gaslit by their doctors saying this isn't possible because
2:02:42
the doctors aren't trained. Yeah, we had some clips we
2:02:44
played in April of this year. This is the one
2:02:46
about the kids. I've seen it's about one in 216.
2:02:50
which is a lot if you consider that 15% of
2:02:53
the U.S. population is on these. But it's not super
2:02:56
common. But for some people, their sexual functioning does not
2:03:00
return afterwards. And on top of that, they develop a
2:03:04
toxicity where they start to have – intense dissociation and
2:03:09
brain fog. And the way they describe the emotional sort
2:03:12
of blunting and dissociation is like, if I were to
2:03:15
hug my kid or like my partner, I don't feel
2:03:17
any warmth or connection. If I were to hear... My
2:03:20
favorite song from my childhood that used to give me
2:03:23
prickles down the back of my neck. Like, that's fun.
2:03:26
It's like music doesn't sound right. They almost feel like
2:03:28
lobotomized and like disconnected. This is so sad. This is
2:03:32
so sad. And I think it's more than the SSR.
2:03:35
Data centers are the problem. Data centers. It's data centers.
2:03:38
Just blame it on the data center. I think it's
2:03:41
social media, not enough going outside, which leads me to,
2:03:45
I think my, probably my, well, I have two clips
2:03:47
I'd like to get to before. Of course. Before I
2:03:50
get out. And then I do have an ISO. Yeah,
2:03:52
of course. I want it all, brother. I want it
2:03:55
all. Actually, play the ISO now if it's short. Let
2:03:57
me see. ISO. ISO. Here we go. Awesome. You're going
2:04:02
to have to compete with my ISO. What do you
2:04:05
got? Well, it seems as though, President. Oh, shoot. I
2:04:10
screwed up my ISO. You exported the wrong thing. I
2:04:15
did. I exported the wrong piece. Wait, I think it's...
2:04:18
No, actually, your bot did the wrong piece. My bot
2:04:21
did it wrong, yes. There is a parallel. That's bananas.
2:04:25
That was my ISO. That's bananas, but I can't believe
2:04:29
I... No, I know what I did. I did... Hold
2:04:31
on. I'm not with this. ...of Watergate. Vice President J.D.
2:04:35
Vance seemed to... Where is the... ...break? Trump administration. There
2:04:39
is a parallel. Ah, well, it's going to be your
2:04:41
ISO then, dude. You got it. There it is. I
2:04:44
exported. That wasn't my robot. That was me. I exported.
2:04:47
See? My robot's better. I should have said robot. You
2:04:50
forgot how to export clips. What am I doing? It's
2:04:54
happening. What is this? It's happening. I've got podcaster dissociation
2:04:58
syndrome. Take more data center. Yeah. Well, let's see. I'm
2:05:04
trying to find it now. It's the one about, let's
2:05:07
see, it was the first clip I dumped out. Which
2:05:10
was interesting. This clip, body temp decline study. And what's
2:05:14
interesting about this clip, I brought it into my editor
2:05:17
and it looked fine. And then I dragged it down
2:05:19
to the timeline and the audio wouldn't show up. I'm
2:05:22
like, that's weird. It was the only clip that did
2:05:24
this. And they all came from X. And this is
2:05:25
the only clip that the audio didn't show up, just
2:05:27
the video. Hmm. So I do what I normally do.
2:05:30
I open it up in QuickTime, export it in QuickTime.
2:05:32
Still got the audio? QuickTime. Oh, QuickTime. Yeah, that's a
2:05:35
little small fix. Check the calendar, dude. FFMPEG, man. It's
2:05:41
good for those things. When you deal with these codecs
2:05:44
and nothing wants to talk to each other. So I
2:05:46
pull that in. Still didn't work. Then I ran it
2:05:49
through Handbrake, which is another. No, no. Let me give
2:05:52
you the tool. VLC. That's the tool. I have VLC.
2:05:57
It doesn't – you know, VLC doesn't like Macs that
2:05:59
well. It always acts weird on it, but I do
2:06:01
have it, and I can't export things on it. But
2:06:03
Handbrake, I did it there. It didn't work again. And
2:06:06
what did I end up – no, actually, Handbrake, it
2:06:08
did work. Handbrake was the thing that did work, and
2:06:10
then I pulled it in, and then I was able
2:06:12
to get the clip. Yeah. So try real player. But
2:06:17
yeah. See you, see me. There we go. Dot vid.
2:06:23
All right. But anyway, what's going on? And this, I
2:06:26
think, is... Part of the problem with these other people
2:06:29
are taking with this non emotion stuff, our our body
2:06:31
temperatures are basically lowering, I think, because we spend too
2:06:35
much time indoors looking at screens and not not outside
2:06:38
playing. But this is now this guy's documented that he's
2:06:42
an independent researcher. But I thought it was very interesting.
2:06:45
Hello, everyone. My name is Matthew Cormier, and today I'm
2:06:48
here to present my review article on the decline of
2:06:51
human body temperatures happening around the world and the implications
2:06:54
on the chronic illness epidemic. The title of my paper
2:06:57
is The Global Decline of Human Body Temperature, Evidence for
2:07:00
a Metabolic and Immunological Crisis, and it's published in the
2:07:03
latest issue of the Journal of Independent Medicine. For over
2:07:06
a century, the statistical average for human body temperature was
2:07:10
98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. But we've been seeing a steady decline,
2:07:14
and the new average is 97.7 degrees Fahrenheit. We're all
2:07:18
getting colder. In the same time frames that our body
2:07:21
temperatures have been declining, the rates of chronic illness have
2:07:24
been rapidly rising. We're all getting colder. Currently, 50% of
2:07:27
children and 70% of adults now meet the criteria for
2:07:31
having one chronic illness. A person's body temperature is an
2:07:34
accurate biomarker of immune activity and metabolic function. That's why
2:07:39
it's known as a vital sign. When it comes to
2:07:41
immune function, a large body of research suggests that a
2:07:44
person's body temperature provides a thermal exclusion zone against opportunistic
2:07:48
infections. Heat is a natural defense against viruses, parasites, bacteria,
2:07:53
and fungal infections. The lowering of a person's body temperature
2:07:58
is associated with a reduction in cell-mediated immune responses, which
2:08:01
may be leading to persistent or chronic infections. Declining body
2:08:05
temperature also indicates a lowering of basal metabolic rate. And
2:08:09
lower basal metabolic rate is linked to insulin resistance and
2:08:13
metabolic disease. In the same time frame that our body
2:08:17
temperatures have been declining, the prevalence of diabetes diagnoses have
2:08:21
been rapidly rising. Worldwide, diabetes diagnoses have increased from 200
2:08:26
million in 1990 to 830 million in 2022. Currently, only
2:08:33
about 12% of American adults meet the criteria for being
2:08:37
metabolically healthy. Research suggests that chronic exposure to heavy metal
2:08:42
toxins, as well as the use of prescription antibiotics, may
2:08:45
be directly contributing to the decline in body temperatures we're
2:08:48
experiencing. The documented decline of human body temperature and the
2:08:52
implications on the chronic illness epidemic represents an under-recognized public
2:08:57
health concern. My article is available now at the Journal
2:09:01
of Independent Medicine dot org. Oh, it worked. I knew
2:09:07
you'd pull it out eventually. Of course. Of course. Yeah.
2:09:12
Yeah. Yeah. That's not good. Eat beef. No, but, you
2:09:16
know, I think it's very interesting with, I think our
2:09:21
society's gone indoors a lot more than it used to
2:09:24
be. And... So I don't think you see these same
2:09:27
problems in people who are working outside. It's the data
2:09:30
centers, Rob. Stop. Inside, not going to kill you. GLP-1,
2:09:36
not going to kill you. Over-medication, not going to kill
2:09:39
you. Measles, well, might kill you. It's the data centers
2:09:42
that are going to kill you. That's it. It's who
2:09:45
runs the data centers. Oh, they're killing us. Yes. Okay.
2:09:49
All right. Let's see. We didn't really get into the
2:09:52
Cornell thing, but I think that's going to be the
2:09:54
new culture war. I know you hate talking about these,
2:09:58
but this is the new culture war. I'm actually happy
2:10:00
you brought this because I've stayed away from it. Tina
2:10:04
has been keeping me up to speed. she ignores all
2:10:08
news but when something comes across she's like hmm you've
2:10:12
heard about this yeah i heard about it she says
2:10:14
you know there's a lot of things that aren't being
2:10:17
said it's left and right she said i really want
2:10:20
to know more and it's dribs it's almost like the
2:10:22
fly dubai thing so i'm happy to listen to it
2:10:24
i'm glad you brought it so yes i think you're
2:10:27
right this This is part of the new culture war.
2:10:30
Well, it's taken place in the Lindsay Clancy trial. Like
2:10:32
that's kind of gone away. So we need something new.
2:10:35
We do. To find. And this is the next version.
2:10:37
But I also remember, because I have a memory. Thanks
2:10:41
to Grok. Episode 72, titled Duke Power of MoFax with
2:10:45
Adam Curry, talking about the Duke lacrosse rape. Yes. Well,
2:10:50
that's exactly what Tina brought up. She said, I'm real
2:10:53
careful ever since the Duke lacrosse case. She says, I'm
2:10:56
real careful about just jumping the gun on that. Yes.
2:10:59
And so it's got the same type of feel, even
2:11:02
though it's not a lacrosse team. It's a fraternity. And
2:11:05
now, back then, they didn't have all these text messages
2:11:08
like they do now. But there's these Snapchats that they're
2:11:12
able to access and – I had to talk with
2:11:14
my son. I'm like, hey, man, listen, if anything ever
2:11:16
happens, certainly don't Snapchat about it. Throw your phone in
2:11:20
the water. Yeah, crush it because these things are safe.
2:11:26
Good fatherly advice. Hey, son, if you do anything like
2:11:29
really crazy, don't Snapchat it, okay? Well, and what –
2:11:34
And when you hear about the whole incident, you're like,
2:11:36
oh, my God, these kids. I can't believe that. But
2:11:39
this has probably been going on forever. People have been
2:11:42
doing drugs and – you know, having sex. That was
2:11:44
all through the 80s, pretty much, people doing that. Well,
2:11:47
that's why we got AIDS. You know, we invented AIDS.
2:11:49
Ah, okay, can't do that anymore. And, I mean, you
2:11:51
look at the frat parties back then, it was probably
2:11:54
way worse. But this is a situation. And so, I
2:11:56
guess two years ago, a prosecutor said, no, I'm not
2:11:59
going to bring charges against these guys. Right. Even the
2:12:01
girl said it seemed like it was consensual, and I
2:12:04
agreed to it, and she didn't have a problem with
2:12:06
it. And then two years later, boom, we have all
2:12:08
this. But what's interesting is obviously the reaction from the
2:12:11
people on the outside. Yes, that's always what it is.
2:12:15
So what I've got, I think maybe let's listen to
2:12:17
AOC. I think these all start with Cornell. So Cornell.
2:12:21
Oh, no. Do I have not? I got Cornell. Oh,
2:12:25
is it there? Okay. I got it. I got it.
2:12:26
Here we go. Let's do AOC. AOC's take. Seven men
2:12:32
drugged and gang raped a 20-year-old woman. They lured her
2:12:39
in to a fraternity house. They drugged her with ketamine.
2:12:44
They then posted to a group chat that she was
2:12:48
incapacitated, and seven men took turns gang-raping her for seven
2:12:53
hours. Are those facts? That sounds really bad, doesn't it?
2:12:59
Yes, it does. It does. Sounds like we should get
2:13:02
her or get those boys. And then you go, let's
2:13:05
look at Sunny Hostin's view, who's from The View, and
2:13:08
you would think she's probably lockstep with AOC. Well, not
2:13:12
necessarily. It's several pages long. I know. It's nine pages
2:13:17
long. And I will say that under current New York
2:13:20
state law, voluntary intoxication or drug use, and she voluntarily
2:13:24
drank a lot. She voluntarily took snorted ketamine off of
2:13:29
one of the boys' body parts. She also she was
2:13:33
highly intoxicated when she arrived at the frat house. She
2:13:36
was highly intoxicated, but had made plans to meet one
2:13:39
of the boy young men. She all she allowed other
2:13:42
boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off of
2:13:48
her body. And under New York law. Voluntary intoxication or
2:13:53
drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally constitute
2:13:57
an inability to consent to sexual activity. Right. So that
2:14:00
means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol,
2:14:06
you can agree to have threesomes, which. In her statement,
2:14:11
she agreed to have two separate threesomes. One boy did
2:14:15
walk in. One young man did walk in and say,
2:14:17
everybody out. So there was one person that did that.
2:14:22
And according to her statement, three of the young men
2:14:25
did not touch her. And so I say all that.
2:14:28
The thing I wonder, Sunny, is. But I say all
2:14:30
that. to say the pictures of these young men who
2:14:35
have not been charged, not been adjudicated, are being plastered
2:14:38
all over the Internet. I think people are reporting this
2:14:42
story inaccurately. I think they're reporting it unfairly. And while
2:14:47
this is something that we have to take very seriously,
2:14:49
there is no way, according to her statement in 2024,
2:14:52
that any prosecutor would have brought. But she was intoxicated.
2:14:57
How did she under New York law again under New
2:14:59
York?
2:15:00
Law, voluntary intoxication, if you voluntarily drink 10 beers and
2:15:05
you voluntarily ingest ketamine, but that intoxication. That doesn't have
2:15:12
anything to do with the fact that the guys attacked
2:15:14
her, whether she's drunk or not. Well, according to her
2:15:17
statement, she says she did. They did not attack her.
2:15:21
Her statement in 2024, she consented to the sexual activity.
2:15:28
She consented to it according to her own statement in
2:15:31
2024. Now, I prosecuted sex crimes for 10 years. I
2:15:35
believe women. I am not saying that we shouldn't believe
2:15:37
her. But in 2024, she said one thing. And now
2:15:40
in 2026, she's saying another thing. I blame... The data
2:15:46
centers. Yeah, there you go. But now who's getting involved?
2:15:52
Now our friend Letitia James is getting involved. Oh, yes.
2:15:54
Hochul appointed her. Yeah, of course. It's a great little
2:15:57
back and forth with a reporter because they ask her
2:16:00
about a Facebook post she made. And and then hope
2:16:02
was like, I'll answer that question. And you could hear
2:16:05
how hopeful answers the question, which is a non-answer, of
2:16:08
course. But I thought the attorney general on your Facebook
2:16:11
page three days ago, you wrote what this young woman
2:16:13
has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm
2:16:16
holding her in my heart and in my prayers to
2:16:18
her. And to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand
2:16:21
with you. Why did you affirm her allegations as fact
2:16:25
without doing your own fact-finding investigations to the governor? Why
2:16:28
did you appoint an official who made a public statement
2:16:32
affirming those allegations as fact as someone who's supposed to
2:16:36
be doing an investigation? I will answer that. I have
2:16:39
every confidence in our attorney general to do what she
2:16:42
has always done. Look at the facts, examine the record,
2:16:46
and draw the proper conclusions. That's exactly what's going to
2:16:49
happen in this case. I will not comment on a
2:16:52
Facebook post. I thought that was ballsy for her to
2:16:58
say that. And then I guess the last one, Camille
2:17:02
Paglia. Oh, I'm not sure if she was talking about
2:17:06
this situation in general or the Believe All Women movement.
2:17:10
This could have been a Me Too thing. But she's
2:17:12
basically saying, look, there's she's talking about New York. So
2:17:15
I think it is with with this case. But she's
2:17:18
basically saying, look, we can't protect people from making stupid
2:17:23
actions, essentially. But it's in two parts. We don't have
2:17:26
to play both of them. But the first part is
2:17:28
not that. It's not that. Yeah. You don't think there's
2:17:30
a problem with sexual assault? Yeah. Because a lot of
2:17:32
women are coming forward now. No, in cases of real
2:17:34
rape, of course you should be prosecuted. Of course real
2:17:37
rape is a crime. But this is not real rape.
2:17:40
We've been arguing about dating encounters with miscommunications now for
2:17:45
decades. It's absolutely infantilizing to women. It must stop. But
2:17:49
you know that a lot of women are afraid of
2:17:52
sexual assault or have been sexually assaulted. Should they not
2:17:56
be able to go and drink and play beer pong
2:17:59
and get drunk like the guys do? They live in
2:18:01
fear. If you go to a fraternity house party... with
2:18:05
a chaos going on in the living room area, and
2:18:08
a young man says to you, would you like to
2:18:11
go up to my room? I'm sorry, okay, you are
2:18:14
consenting to sex. He is right to think you have
2:18:17
consented, okay, to go up there and change your mind
2:18:20
and so on. It's not right, of course, for anyone
2:18:23
to impose themselves sexually on another person, naturally, okay. But
2:18:27
women must realize they are now free. The sexual revolution
2:18:31
has been won. This is what you get. Paglia. She
2:18:37
always has a pretty nuanced way of looking at things.
2:18:39
I did not expect that from her when I saw
2:18:41
that. Yeah, we played Paglia a lot in the past.
2:18:44
Yeah. Let me see. She's definitely more common sense. Yeah.
2:18:49
Therefore, wrong. Let me see. When's the last time we
2:18:51
played her? Yeah. Paglia, Paglia, Paglia. It's been a while.
2:18:56
It's been at least 10 years. My goodness. We've done
2:18:59
a lot on this show. At the end of this,
2:19:01
she basically says, maybe we should just get rid of
2:19:03
men and women co-education places. Oh, there you go. Here
2:19:07
we are. Shouldn't men be afraid of the consequences of
2:19:11
this? We have laws on the books, okay, against rape,
2:19:15
okay? But the point is right now, okay? But everybody
2:19:19
in that world will tell you it's almost impossible for
2:19:21
women to have the strength to come forward to make
2:19:24
the case and so on. Oh, Lord, okay. We're going
2:19:26
to go on like this, making endless excuses for middle-class
2:19:30
girls, okay, confused, unsure of what they want. want. Perhaps
2:19:34
the sexual revolution should be reversed because what we're showing
2:19:37
is that perhaps co-education is a bad idea. Maybe today's
2:19:41
young women are not prepared for co-education. Yeah, I've never
2:19:46
liked this whole frat stuff either. This whole hazing thing.
2:19:50
Oh, yeah. All this stuff is so lame. I was
2:19:52
not. I went to college. I was not a fraternity
2:19:55
guy. I didn't even really go to the parties. And
2:19:58
probably because – I had seen the movie Animal House,
2:20:03
the Revenge of the Nerds, and my idea of it
2:20:05
was just like, what am I going to do here?
2:20:07
Just get blitzed out drunk? I knew I was going
2:20:09
to be one of the nerd guys. I'm like, I
2:20:11
don't want to go to a party like that. They're
2:20:13
going to do something bad to me. They're going to
2:20:15
haze me. I went to college for one semester, and
2:20:18
I pledged kappa with the black guys. Oh, really? I
2:20:22
carried a book. Rick, yeah, I was the white shadow
2:20:24
because I wasn't white. I was from Amsterdam, you see.
2:20:27
And I came in. I remember my roommate, Ty, Ty
2:20:31
Hamilton. He was a black kid from Trenton, New Jersey.
2:20:35
And I remember him coming in. He's like, oh, brother,
2:20:38
look at this cracker. Got a white guy. Yeah. And
2:20:40
he's got his boom box. I had my boom box
2:20:43
and I put in a tape and because I could
2:20:45
just come from Amazon. Let the music play. Shannon, he's
2:20:49
like. Whoa. No Lynyrd Skynyrd, huh? I said, no, man.
2:20:53
This is what we're playing in Amsterdam. We connected on
2:20:56
that. And then I was DJing at the parties. And
2:20:59
it was, I tell you, a lot of respect. We
2:21:02
got this white guy on the disc. Curry, the white
2:21:05
shadow on the wheels of steel. That's right, baby. That's
2:21:09
right. I played just the last quick 13-second clip because
2:21:13
Colin Schultz sent it to me. It's a gem, a
2:21:16
No Agenda classic from episode 13. No. So this is
2:21:21
old, old, old. This is before I was born. This
2:21:24
is pre-do, and it relates to the many co-hosts that
2:21:31
we have had in the past two months here on
2:21:34
the show. And this is Adam and John talking about
2:21:36
Jason Calacanis. What's the difference between an escort and Jason
2:21:40
Calacanis? Well, I don't think that's a good example. Okay.
2:21:46
I was stretching a bit. But there might not be
2:21:49
a difference between those two. Classic. There is no difference
2:21:56
between those two. Beautiful. I don't even know what it
2:21:59
was about anymore. that's how long jay cal was in
2:22:04
my life was that like 2007 is that when that
2:22:06
was yeah maybe 2000 maybe just turning 2008 yeah okay
2:22:10
and jay cal was in my life back then that's
2:22:12
how long he's been around it's beautiful all right uh
2:22:16
sir ducifer my i got one final clip Go for
2:22:20
it. We have to play this one. This is the
2:22:23
Socialists Band. I think it starts with band. Socialist Band
2:22:28
Promo? Socialist Band Promo. Because every good socialist knows how
2:22:32
to promote their band. We are the neighborhood kids. We
2:22:35
are the neighborhood kids. Rest in peace to all the
2:22:37
martyrs. Rest in peace, Mary Morello. Free the world. Free
2:22:41
Palestine. Free Congo. Free Armenia. Free Sudan. And free everywhere
2:22:45
in the world from Western imperialism. We love you so
2:22:47
much. It's power to the people. We are the neighborhood
2:22:50
kids. And we got merch at that tent. We love
2:22:52
y'all so much. Thank you for being here. Thank you.
2:22:57
Viva la Revolución. Nothing says socialism like buy our merch.
2:23:00
Viva la Revolución. Buy our merch in the tent. Oh,
2:23:03
beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. All right, Rob. Thank you so much,
2:23:08
man. I really appreciate it when you come on. And
2:23:10
come on before the end of the month, one or
2:23:12
two more times maybe? Oh, yeah, yeah. I like having
2:23:16
the rotation. I think this is – We've got some
2:23:19
good co-hosts going on here. I'm for everybody. I think
2:23:22
everybody should get a chance to jump in here because
2:23:24
all the perspectives are really great. Horowitz sent me this.
2:23:28
He made an AI image, and it's all of us.
2:23:31
And it's like, podcast the movie. He says, this is
2:23:33
an idea, man. I'm like, are you kidding? What a
2:23:36
nightmare that would be. All of us on at the
2:23:38
same time? No, no, no, no. That's not going to
2:23:41
work. No one would get a word in edgewise. Exactly.
2:23:45
All right, brother. Have yourself a great Sunday. Thank you
2:23:47
again for coming on, Rob. So much appreciated. And one
2:23:50
last plug for my end of show mix is these
2:23:52
are all human made. We need more humans out there.
2:23:55
And my tip of the day is go. Go be
2:23:57
in a drum circle, even if you've never played a
2:23:59
drum. Drum circle, end of show, coming up. There he
2:24:01
goes, everybody, Sir Ducifer. No sponsor in the bloodstream. No
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sponsor in the bloodstream. The rapper the Outro Music Cutters
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I don't know about you, but I can't help it.
2:27:33
I like it. I like it when the lyrics make
2:27:35
sense, when it's fun, when you listen to it. I've
2:27:38
just accepted my future. I can't help it anymore. Thank
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you very much, Rob Ducifer. Of course, value for value
2:27:45
is indeed how you get the show, which means you
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pay nothing for it. All you got to do to
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keep it on the air is to send some value
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right now. noagendameetups.com server says, account suspended. This account has
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been suspended. Contact your hosting provider for more information. This,
2:28:10
of course, is a travesty. We've been trying to reach
2:28:13
Sir Daniel. I haven't been able to get a hold
2:28:16
of them yet. This, of course, is the downside of
2:28:19
value for value when you don't control stuff. Like we
2:28:21
had a problem with noagendashow.net. Again, it's all value for
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value. The show never would have been what it is
2:28:29
if we'd had to pay for bandwidth and pay for
2:28:32
all these services and paid for professionals to put things
2:28:35
together. Everybody has contributed. Void zero at the top of
2:28:38
the stack there, but also the guys who keep the
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stream running, Sir Bemrose, just everybody. You know, the. pre-shows.
2:28:47
Darren, of course, miss him dearly on that pre-show. We've
2:28:50
got the professor now doing his show. So it's just
2:28:56
been fantastic to see this show grow the way it
2:29:00
has. And now with these guest co-hosts coming in to
2:29:04
figure out how we move forward with the show, whatever
2:29:07
that may be. They seem to be enjoying it, and
2:29:09
I certainly enjoy them. And thanks, Sir Ducifer, for coming
2:29:11
on. And I also want to thank Tyler Brown, who
2:29:13
has just been on a tear at No Agenda Art
2:29:15
Generator. dot com boom there's another one sir paul couture
2:29:19
uh put that up for us years and years and
2:29:22
years ago and it's still going strong appreciate him he
2:29:25
created the artwork as his time and talent for episode
2:29:28
1908 titled shivatican uh which andrew horowitz and i uh
2:29:35
coined as uh the chicago uh You know, we talked
2:29:40
about it like, should we do this art? You know,
2:29:42
well, the plane, no one died. So, yeah, we can
2:29:45
do that. And it was the plumber preventing the aircraft
2:29:49
from crashing. Same thing, just like these songs. You know,
2:29:55
it's like, yeah, I know you didn't spend hours on
2:29:58
it, but –
2:30:00
I looked at it and it made me laugh. What
2:30:02
can I do? Even if it is AI, you're a
2:30:05
prompting genius, Tyler Brown. Thank you very much. And as
2:30:09
always, we thank everybody. And by the way, nice to
2:30:11
see the trolls. We had 1,058 troll peakage, peak trollage
2:30:16
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at the round table. A single deduction would be appreciated
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for us both. We'll share it. You've been de-douched. Music.
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What better way to honor her birthday than with JCD's
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coin and damehood from the best producers in the universe.
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Thank you for your courage. Keep on keeping on. Mark
2:37:22
in Bent Mountain, Virginia, jingles. For Brenda, all hell's going
2:37:26
to break loose. You're going to need a Bitcoin. And
2:37:28
for me, fisting nuts. You know, we haven't played the
2:37:31
fisting nuts properly in a while, so let's do both.
2:37:33
Yeah. They're saying that all hell is gonna break loose
2:37:37
and you're gonna need a Bitcoin. John, tell us your...
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about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
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I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying,
2:37:49
and I think it will result in fights breaking out
2:37:52
because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his
2:37:55
bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them
2:37:58
into his palm of his hand, and then he makes
2:38:02
a fist around the nuts. around the nuts. And then
2:38:06
he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut
2:38:09
to the little hole. Stop. To the little hole. And
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then he throws a nut in his mouth from his
2:38:16
fist. From his fist. Then he does it again. He
2:38:19
shakes and throws and shakes and throws. It is annoying
2:38:24
as hell to watch. Stop. Thank you. Linda Lupatkin is
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in Castle Rock, Colorado, and she comes with $200 and
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she wants Jobs Karma. And she says, AI can write
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your resume. Problem is, it can write everyone else's too.
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This is correct. Linda helps professionals and executives figure out
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Let's vote for jobs. You've got jobs. And there's Sir
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Scotty K. from Lakeshore, Minnesota. $200. I'm going to have
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to shorten your notes now, Sir Scotty, Sir Scotty, because
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you are making them real long. Bot Commander in the
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morning to you, Adam, Sir Ducifer, and the rest of
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whisperer. That's right. You heard me, Sir Scotty K. I
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just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has
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ago, my wife and I started my neighbor to love
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Meetup. I hope it's not raining like it is here
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in Texas. I hope you're having a great time. That's
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Dame Maria and Sir Mark of the Greenwood. I expect
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a bang-up. Meetup report from them. And so I don't
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know what else is coming up this week, but I
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can tell you on the 9th of October, Los Benos,
2:46:52
California. Three meetups on the 10th of October, Fort Wayne,
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Indiana, Eagle, Idaho, and Soquel, California. The 15th, Charlotte, North
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Carolina, Scottsdale, Arizona on the 16th. Long Beach, California on
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the 17th. Fredericksburg, Texas. That's our backyard here at Bar
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17. with J6 or Jenny. It's going to be a
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the 21st. Los Altos, California on the 24th. And Tilburg,
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the Netherlands, also on the 24th of October. Keep checking
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Everybody feels the same It's like a party. All right,
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that's it, everybody. I'm not quite sure what's coming up
2:48:05
next. I was hoping... Oh, it's bowl after bowl. Oh,
2:48:07
is it live? Maybe not. Okay, that'll be Sir Spencer
2:48:14
and Dame DeLorean. That is next on your No Agenda
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of course, Wednesday, there will be another We Get to
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Do This. Pastor Jimmy and I taking a look at
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you are a believer or Christ-curious, you are welcome over
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there in Get To Nation. And I will, of course,
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be back on Thursday. I don't know who's going to
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be co-hosting, so I'll let you know. ASAP, I've got
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to get on the stick with this booking stuff. I
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never signed up for that. End of show mixes. We
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have, let me see, Melody. We'll kick it off, though,
2:49:00
with... Sir Dusifer's drum circle. What could possibly go wrong?
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I'll see you next time, everybody. Until then, remember us
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at noagendadonations.com. As always, a hooey hooey. Adios, mofos. And
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such. I'll give you just one guess Always me. Purpose
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and functionality. Mind the Bulls coming from the office door
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I'll clean the mess up later. Just don't black and
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white. JCD's office looks like mine.