Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / 5-Minute Breaks That Save Your Life - TPR's In Focus - Oct. 13, 2026
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- 0:26From Troy Public Radio, this is the Storyline
- 0:30book series from In Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:35You've heard Manoush Zomorodi on NPR, and today
- 0:39we visit with her about her book, Body Electric.
- 0:43She noticed that as a result of the digital age,
- 0:46many of us spend most of the day on our electronic devices
- 0:51and sitting down. So she did some research and
- 0:54came up with a solution to get us moving again, even for 5 minutes.
- 1:17Manoush, it is truly an honor to welcome you to
- 1:20Alabama, Georgia, and Florida on the Troy Public Radio
- 1:24Network. It is an honor to be with you, Carolyn. Thank you for
- 1:28having me. Manoush, you have written what I consider one
- 1:32of the most important books of the year.
- 1:36Tell us how you became concerned about
- 1:39our use of digital media. Your book,
- 1:43of course, is called Body Electric. Well,
- 1:46for me, Carolyn, it was really during the pandemic that it came to
- 1:50a head. I was healthy, I should say that. But all day long,
- 1:54I was sitting and looking at a screen, whether it was
- 1:57for work or socializing or making sure my parents were okay.
- 2:02And then in the evening, I would roll over to the couch
- 2:05and watch some more. And I just couldn't understand why I felt so
- 2:10physically tired, just utterly exhausted
- 2:13and spent. Because I think, you know, we've heard a lot over the past few
- 2:17years about the mental health effects of too much social
- 2:21media or all the sort of content misinformation
- 2:25that we get. But I wanted to understand what was going on
- 2:28in my body biologically because of all
- 2:32this time spent sitting and looking at screens. And so I
- 2:35went on this sort of odyssey to figure it out.
- 2:39And one of the people I came across really made an enormous
- 2:43difference in I thought about things. So this was a man named Keith Diaz.
- 2:47He is a physiologist at Columbia University Medical Center,
- 2:51and in 2023, he published a study to find the
- 2:56least amount of movement that the body needs in order not
- 3:00to have an early death. And what he found was that just
- 3:045 minutes of gentle movement every 30
- 3:07minutes slashed the health risks of prolonged sitting.
- 3:11Dramatically lowering blood sugar and blood pressure.
- 3:15And there was even another study he did that found that inactive people who traded
- 3:1930 minutes of sitting for 30 minutes of movement every day could
- 3:23lower their risk of a premature death by 18%.
- 3:28So I was like, wait a minute, why does just a little bit of movement
- 3:32throughout your day have such an outsized impact? So he invited
- 3:37me actually to join his lab study, and I did. So one
- 3:40day I sat and worked on my laptop like a regular day
- 3:43without moving. And then another day, I took these 5-minute gentle
- 3:48movement breaks, just walking 2 miles per hour, a stroll.
- 3:52And my blood sugar was cut in half. My blood pressure went down
- 3:56by 5 points. My concentration and my mood stayed
- 3:59solid throughout the day on the day that I moved. It was quite
- 4:03extraordinary. Manoush, I was looking at your
- 4:07TED Talk, Sitting All Day Is Killing You.
- 4:11That was back on January 5th. If that's not a wake-up call,
- 4:15I don't know what is. And it's
- 4:19not hyperbole, unfortunately. By the end of the decade,
- 4:23it's expected that all the sitting that we do is going to lead
- 4:27to 500 million new cases of conditions
- 4:31like heart disease, obesity, and diabetes. And many of these
- 4:34conditions are preventable. Another stat
- 4:38that blew my mind was that the average 19-year-old today moves about
- 4:43the same as the average 60-year-old. And that's
- 4:48not because the 60-year-old or the 19-year-old are lazy necessarily,
- 4:52right? We have built this world around sitting and looking
- 4:56at screens, whether it's our computers, our phones, our laptops, our iPads,
- 4:59our TV. Our worlds revolve around them. And so we
- 5:04need to talk more about the things that we're not getting as much
- 5:07since our innovation has led us to this moment. We need to
- 5:11talk about basic biology, why leg muscle muscles be stimulated
- 5:15and contract. Or if walking's not an option for you,
- 5:19you can also move your arms. The point is that
- 5:22we need to get our blood flow going. When our blood
- 5:26flow and circulation works, it flushes the glucose
- 5:30out of our blood, it delivers more oxygen to our
- 5:33brain, it makes us feel energized, able to concentrate,
- 5:38focus. It also keeps diabetes away, keeps obesity
- 5:42away, and high blood pressure away. I was amused
- 5:46in your TED when you started dancing around, and the audience did
- 5:50too. Carolyn, here's the thing, is like, I live in
- 5:54a neighborhood where if a kid isn't really amazing
- 5:58at soccer, then he gets cut from the team by the time he is
- 6:028. And I just think we have to stop thinking about movement
- 6:05as like you're on a crazy, nearly professional sports team,
- 6:09or you're killing yourself at boot camp, or you are
- 6:13running 6 miles. Like, no, we're not talking about relentless, you know,
- 6:16biohacking or workouts.
- 6:20What we're talking about is basic movement. So what ended
- 6:23up happening was a couple years ago, we had a clinical
- 6:26trial, a study where we asked public radio listeners to
- 6:30try out taking these movement breaks, and 20,000
- 6:34people signed up. And it was really amazing. Like, 80% of
- 6:38the people who signed up to do the 2 weeks actually stuck with it.
- 6:4182% actually enjoyed taking the movement breaks.
- 6:46They saw their fatigue cut on average by 25%.
- 6:50And actually all the interruptions, as much as you would think they would be really
- 6:54annoying and you wouldn't get all your work done, it's not true. The productivity
- 6:57actually went up. People told us that they were happier,
- 7:01that they felt more in touch with their bodies, that they were able to concentrate
- 7:06again. Some people lost a few pounds barely trying, got rid
- 7:10of some aches and pains in their back. I can attest to that one myself.
- 7:14And people just felt like this was something that was free,
- 7:17that was easy to do, and that made a huge difference.
- 7:22Trish, before we run out of time, you're a mom. Yes.
- 7:25You mentioned kids. Yes. So many children
- 7:29these days are on the screen. Schools have taken those cell
- 7:32phones away from those children during school hours.
- 7:36What is your advice to parents who are listening to you? Yeah,
- 7:39I just think we shame kids for their screen time and
- 7:42it's not necessarily their fault. I think screens are part
- 7:47of life as a teenager these days. So to me, it's like instead
- 7:51of saying like, you've had enough screen time, let's make it positive. Have you had
- 7:54your stroll time today? Did you get outside and go for a walk?
- 7:59If you've got little kids, you know, making sure like there are balls and jump
- 8:03ropes and chalk to write on the driveway with. There are options
- 8:07that it's not— that screens don't become the boogeyman that they desperately
- 8:11want to get. That's how it was for me and TV when I was a
- 8:14kid. But that we're sort of getting outside,
- 8:17moving, not any pressure, doing it as a family. It's actually
- 8:21really good. For your eye health to look into the distance to get vitamin D.
- 8:25It's really good for your ear health not to be listening on headphones
- 8:29all day. There are so many reasons to just take simple
- 8:33breaks. It is something free and cost-effective,
- 8:37and we don't need to shame our kids about their screen time. We just need
- 8:40to give them more alternatives. You have stated the case. Body Electric:
- 8:44The Hidden Health Costs of the Digital Age and New Science.
- 8:49To reclaim your well-being. How do you feel after you've
- 8:52put all of this into effect? Oh, I feel so much better. I'm going
- 8:57to take a movement break right after our conversation, Carolyn. I hope you do,
- 8:59too. Manoush, thank you so much for being our guest today on Troy
- 9:03Public Radio. I so enjoyed our conversation. Thank you for
- 9:07having me. That was NPR's Manoush Zomorodi,
- 9:11author of the book Body Electric, which is also available
- 9:16in audio format. One reviewer said, quote, this is
- 9:19a hard book to put down, and another said it encourages
- 9:23all ages to, quote, take a stand, meaning take a break and
- 9:28stand up. Thanks for joining us today for the Storyline book
- 9:32series from In Focus, which is a podcast wherever
- 9:36you get your podcasts. Feel free to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:41I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported Troy
- 9:45Public Radio.