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Ghislaine Maxwell And Request For Personal Items From Her Accusers · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: Fresh off the heels of what could be called, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: sort of, a victory for Team Maxwell. It looks like
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: they're trying to press things here. And now they're requesting
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  Speaker 1: some items before the trial begins from Annie and Maria Farmer. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Team Maxwell has already made a request along these lines
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  Speaker 1: previously about a diary and some cowboy boots. And the
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  Speaker 1: judge told her basically to get stuffed. But it looks
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  Speaker 1: like Maxwell and her team, they're feeling themselves a little
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  Speaker 1: bit here. And they're going to try and press this.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going to try and attempt to obtain these
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  Speaker 1: items and whatever other else information they feel is pertinent
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  Speaker 1: before the trial phase of this all begins. Now, we'll
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  Speaker 1: have to see what ends up being admissible here, what
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  Speaker 1: the court finds admissible. and what the prosecution plans on
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  Speaker 1: bringing up in court as evidence. So that's all going
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  Speaker 1: to play a role into what is acceptable as something
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  Speaker 1: to be subpoenaed as far as evidence, or something that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't hold any bearing as far as the case goes.
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  Speaker 1: Now this is the initial ask here, right? That's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what this is. Team Maxwell is making their... their wants
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  Speaker 1: known here, casting their line into the sea on their
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  Speaker 1: latest fishing expedition, seeing if they can get Judge Nathan
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  Speaker 1: a bite.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see, right? We will see what, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, is admissible, what's not admissible, and what ends up
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  Speaker 1: being what. I don't know if I'm Team Maxwell, though,
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  Speaker 1: if I want any of this shit admissible.
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  Speaker 2: Because....
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  Speaker 1: Pretty damning stuff as far as evidence goes and we
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  Speaker 1: all have heard maria's story you know she's talked to
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  Speaker 1: us here on the podcast she's obviously been on way
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  Speaker 1: bigger platforms you know whitney uh uh over on whitney's
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  Speaker 1: show and then you know a bunch of other shows
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  Speaker 1: right and we've all heard her story and she's she's
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  Speaker 1: been adamant about what has happened so they might be
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  Speaker 1: uh biting off a bit more than they can chew.
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  Speaker 2: Here, right?
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  Speaker 1: Rolling the dice, thinking that they might have the upper
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  Speaker 1: hand or something, but I think they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: sorely mistaken when all is said and done. Team Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: has not had the greatest track record when it's come
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  Speaker 1: to things like this. And what they want to construe
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  Speaker 1: as a W for themselves is really.
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  Speaker 2: A victory for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Transparency is... one of the most important things you could
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  Speaker 1: possibly have at a trial. So that's why if this
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  Speaker 1: stuff is admissible, then it should be turned over, right?
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  Speaker 1: If the judge and the lawyers deem that this stuff
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  Speaker 1: is admissible, let's turn it over. But I have a
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  Speaker 1: funny feeling it's not going to end up the way
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  Speaker 1: Team Maxwell wants it to.
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  Speaker 2: There's, you know... A lot of evidence here, folks, that.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly points to the direction of big trouble for Team
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  Speaker 1: Lady G come November. But that's what the trials are for, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's why we have a justice system. Well, what's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be a justice system anyway. But this is where
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  Speaker 1: it's time to put up or shut up. The state
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  Speaker 1: alleges that Ghislaine Maxwell is part of a huge human
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  Speaker 1: trafficking ring with Jeffrey Epstein and they were involved in
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  Speaker 1: abusing a whole group of girls. That's what the government
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  Speaker 1: and the survivors are alleging. And according to Maxwell, it
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  Speaker 1: never happened. One side has produced a shit ton of
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  Speaker 1: evidence and the other side has produced nothing but words.
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  Speaker 1: And we all know words are wind, right? But what
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  Speaker 1: we think, me and you, really means nothing at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day. We're just the peanut gallery around here,
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  Speaker 1: at least over here on this podcast, right? I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a journalist. I don't run around making pretend I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a concerned citizen, somebody who happened to stumble face
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  Speaker 1: first into this case and been morbidly fascinated with it
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  Speaker 1: ever since. And I'm the kind of person that tries
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  Speaker 1: to see things through. So, you know, we're just here.
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  Speaker 1: This is the commentary. This is the way I see
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  Speaker 1: this story going, my opinion, right? And it happens to
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  Speaker 1: resonate with some people. And that's great. But one thing
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to get here. Are any kind of
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  Speaker 1: assertions about. This one's in the Mossad. Or you never hear.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never going to do that nonsense around here. There's
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  Speaker 1: plenty of fantasists. Running around involved in this story. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I'll keep my. I'll keep the pattern going. That we're
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  Speaker 1: used to around these parts. But. I'm just calling them
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  Speaker 1: the way I see them. And the evidence has led
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  Speaker 1: me to exactly where I'm at. Now, again, you could
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  Speaker 1: take every single minute of content we have put out
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  Speaker 1: with a buck fifty down to the corner store and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean shit, right? You can get a cup
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  Speaker 1: of coffee, some candy or something. But besides that, really
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean nothing. It has no bearing on the trial itself.
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  Speaker 1: Just like Maxwell's spokes mouths, spokespeople and her lawyers, what
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  Speaker 1: they say have no bearing on what's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: in that courtroom. What it is, it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: battle for public opinion. And that's what happens with high
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: profile cases. Here's an idea. If you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: end up on page six of the New York Post,
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  Speaker 1: don't be an asshole.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty simple, right?
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to end up the topic of conversation
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  Speaker 1: on podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: Don't be an asshole.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how difficult is it to just try and
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  Speaker 1: be a decent person today? Now, you know, you really
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  Speaker 1: can't change what you did yesterday or in the past, right? And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people have a bunch of regrets. People haven't,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Lived the right way. We all have those feelings.
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  Speaker 1: But a little different with Ghislaine Maxwell here, right? Ten
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  Speaker 1: Hail Marys aren't going to cut it. And asking for
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  Speaker 1: evidence and different items that might have some sort of
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  Speaker 1: bearing on the case, well, that's well within.
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  Speaker 2: The lane of her lawyers, right?
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to do whatever they possibly can to try
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  Speaker 1: and punch holes in the credibility of the people who
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  Speaker 1: are accusing them. That is their job, right? So that's
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  Speaker 1: definitely what they're trying to do here. But again, I
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  Speaker 1: think that this is one of those times where, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the boomerang effect we talk about I think that that
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  Speaker 1: boomerang might come back around and crack them right.
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  Speaker 2: In the dome.
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  Speaker 1: Because guess what? The truth is the truth. And that's
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  Speaker 1: just the end of it, right? You can try and
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  Speaker 1: manipulate it whichever way you want. But when the evidence
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  Speaker 1: comes to bear, and all is said and done, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to take more than an ask about a pair
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  Speaker 1: of cowboy.
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  Speaker 2: Boots, folks, to sway a jury.
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  Speaker 1: So... Let's jump into this article real quick from Radar Online.
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  Speaker 1: And let's see just exactly what in the hell is
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  Speaker 1: going on with this ask.
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  Speaker 2: Headline.
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell demanding Jeffrey Epstein accusers.
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  Speaker 2: Accusers? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein paid out, right? Anyone of those women who
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  Speaker 1: were paid out from the fund? It's no longer an
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  Speaker 1: accuser situation. I can't believe I have to still explain this.
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  Speaker 1: Is this real life?
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  Speaker 2: Not an accuser situation anymore.
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  Speaker 1: If you got doled out some shekels from the estate,
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  Speaker 1: they admitted that Jeffrey Epstein did that to you. So
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  Speaker 1: it's no longer alleged, okay? Now, again, when you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Maxwell, on the other hand, she has not been
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  Speaker 1: convicted in a court of law. So while we all
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  Speaker 1: might think she's, you know, a condemnable person and somebody
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  Speaker 1: who is, you know, will save all of the opinions
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  Speaker 1: about her for a later date, but she still is
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  Speaker 1: entitled to her day in.
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  Speaker 2: Court, right? But with Epstein, fuck that. His estate paid out.
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  Speaker 1: All those hundreds of the $ 125 million, they took responsibility
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  Speaker 1: for those.
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  Speaker 2: Actions of Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was culpable for those actions, so the estate paid out.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty simple.
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  Speaker 1: So there's no longer an alleged accuser situation with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: That will conclude my TED Talk, journalists. This article was
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  Speaker 1: authored by Whitney Vasquez. Ghislaine Maxwell wants to get her
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  Speaker 1: hands on diaries belonging to two of Jeffrey Epstein's accusers. No,
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  Speaker 1: two of the people who were abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: Fact. It's not debatable at this point. Fact.
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  Speaker 1: According to court documents obtained by Radar, court documents that
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  Speaker 1: are filed and available for anybody to read, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: out there, The late businessman.
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  Speaker 2: The late businessman. Get a load of this article. You
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  Speaker 2: mean the pedophile?
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  Speaker 1: You mean the abuser? You mean the human trafficker? The
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  Speaker 1: late businessman.
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  Speaker 2: What a hoot. And alleged madam. You mean alleged co-conspirator?
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  Speaker 1: Fellow child abuser? General all around scuzzbay and bipedal serpent?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh. okay. Is asking for permission to use a subpoena
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  Speaker 1: demanding access to several of Maria Farmer's personal items, including
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  Speaker 1: the pages of her private journal. But Maxwell also wants
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  Speaker 1: a peek inside the pages of Maria's sister Annie Farmer's journal, too.
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  Speaker 2: Of course she does.
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  Speaker 1: And look, If I was Maxwell's legal team, I'd be
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  Speaker 1: pining to get this shit as well. But you better
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  Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for. You better be careful.
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  Speaker 1: Because once stuff's admitted into the court, into the records here,
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  Speaker 1: there's no going back. So what they're really trying to
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  Speaker 1: do is get their hands on it beforehand to go
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  Speaker 1: through it and make sure there's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: any surprises. That's really what they're angling for here.
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  Speaker 2: Or.
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  Speaker 1: To look for ways to punch holes in the credibility
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  Speaker 1: of either Maria or Annie, right? That's their endgame. That's
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  Speaker 1: their goal here. Maria claimed she was an aspiring artist
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  Speaker 1: when she met Epstein, who allegedly promised to help her career.
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  Speaker 1: She alleges her life turned upside down when Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell began allegedly violently groping her. There's a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of allegedly's in here. I mean, I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: be mean or anything about this article, but this is
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  Speaker 1: pretty remedial, yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Like, allegedly this, allegedly that.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like it's being put together by somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: not really hip to the case. Maybe somebody who just
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  Speaker 1: got some notes and was told, here, pen this real quick.
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think you should be using allegedly with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein anymore, right? Kind of a bit silly at this point.
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  Speaker 1: She later found out that her 16-year-old sister had allegedly
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  Speaker 1: fallen victim to Epstein. And he claimed the now-dead mogul
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  Speaker 1: sexually assaulted her at his New Mexico ranch. Again, there's
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  Speaker 1: no more alleged with Jeffrey Epstein. It's kind of redundant
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  Speaker 1: at this point that I have to keep saying it,
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  Speaker 1: but here we are. This dude did all of this, right?
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  Speaker 1: If he didn't, don't you think his estate and all
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  Speaker 1: of those greedy sons of bitches who are in charge
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  Speaker 1: of it would have fought tooth and nail not to
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  Speaker 1: pay out one single dollar? They had the money to litigate.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't because they knew they were fucked. 100%. No
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  Speaker 1: kind of ground to stand upon.
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  Speaker 2: And they knew that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why the estate paid out the way they did.
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  Speaker 1: And with Maxwell, look, she's fighting tooth and nail for
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  Speaker 1: literally her life. So, again, you could expect her lawyers
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  Speaker 1: to have all kinds of asks like this. And this
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  Speaker 1: is just building on a previous request that they've made, remember.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll go back through the catalog and we'll do
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  Speaker 1: an In Case You Missed It episode and I'll try
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  Speaker 1: and dig that one out so we can take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to the original ask for the diary and the
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  Speaker 1: cowboy boots and Judge Nathan's pretty much usual response at
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  Speaker 1: this point of no the sisters were among those alleged
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  Speaker 1: victims alleged victims again who first spoke out about the
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  Speaker 1: disturbing allegations against the accused predatory duo wow accused predatory
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  Speaker 1: duo okay Maria even claims she contacted the New York
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  Speaker 1: Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation with accusations
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  Speaker 1: about Maxwell and Epstein, but her efforts went nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Maria has been very adamant about that. She's talked about
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  Speaker 1: it on Whitney Webb's program at length. She is very
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  Speaker 1: adamant about what occurred. And she's been very clear that
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  Speaker 1: she contacted the FBI, that she contacted the NYPD. And
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  Speaker 1: they were the ones who told her to contact the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the whole runaround that you always get. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell wants an investigation team to examine the so-called evidence
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  Speaker 1: that Maria and Annie have been holding on to all
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  Speaker 1: these years later while preparing for her sex trafficking trial.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like kind of an adversarial... peace here, folks, huh?
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, the so-called evidence that Maria and Annie
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  Speaker 1: have been holding on to all these years later, huh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well, we'll see about the so-called evidence. Look,
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  Speaker 1: let's be very clear. The time to talk is almost over.
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  Speaker 1: November 29th is creeping up pretty quick, and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see what's what pretty soon. But until we get there,
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  Speaker 1: Can we at the very least agree that calling Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein an alleged trafficker at this point is taking it
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  Speaker 1: a bit far? We all know what dude is. We
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  Speaker 1: all know what dude was. In the documents, Epstein's one-time
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  Speaker 1: business associate points out a specific meeting that took place
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  Speaker 1: between Maria and attorneys Brad Edwards and Stanley Pottinger in
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  Speaker 1: or about June of 2016. Brad Edwards describes in his
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  Speaker 1: self-published memoir, Relentless Pursuit, that Maria Farmer, during that meeting,
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  Speaker 1: showed him substantial physical evidence corroborating her claims against Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, including photographs, diaries, telephone books, Rolodexes,
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  Speaker 1: and mementos collected from her time with Epstein and Maxwell,
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  Speaker 1: the documents state.
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  Speaker 2: And again, look.
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  Speaker 1: You really think Brad Edwards is just going to lie
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  Speaker 1: about that in his book? Just be like, ah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll add this for a little flair. Let's add this
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  Speaker 1: for a little flavor. Of course not. He obviously sat
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  Speaker 1: down with Maria and seen all of this stuff that
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  Speaker 1: he said he has seen. I believe Brad Edwards 100%
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  Speaker 1: and I certainly believe Maria as well. So again, okay,
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  Speaker 1: whatever evidence that the judge and the prosecution deem necessary
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  Speaker 1: to go to the defense during discovery here, then fine,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that is, it is. But again, I think that
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  Speaker 1: they're barking up the wrong tree here. Honestly, I really
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  Speaker 1: think that this is a bit of a mistake by
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  Speaker 1: Team Maxwell in the throat. Maxwell wants to examine these
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  Speaker 1: items of physical evidence in advance of trial so that
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  Speaker 1: our experts and investigation team may rebut any such evidence
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  Speaker 1: and effectively confront this accuser. Look, if it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be submitted by the prosecution, then I think that it's
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  Speaker 1: only fair that Maxwell's team gets a look at it.
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  Speaker 1: You folks know how I feel about the court system.
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  Speaker 1: I want this fucking court system to run.
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  Speaker 2: The right way. Fair for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I know, pipe dream, and I'm not naive thinking it's
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  Speaker 1: happening or it's going to happen, but that's my wish.
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  Speaker 1: That's my want. And I will continue to fight for
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  Speaker 1: that as long as I'm alive. I'm a huge, huge
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  Speaker 1: proponent In criminal justice reform. Not in the nonsensical virtue
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  Speaker 1: signaling BS you see that these people get involved in.
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  Speaker 1: But true reform. Hard conversations being had. Everybody comes to
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  Speaker 1: the table and has a conversation about it. But what
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell's up to is, you know, her usual stuff, right?
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  Speaker 1: She's well within the boundaries. And I think that if
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  Speaker 1: they're going to admit it, meaning the prosecution, then they
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  Speaker 1: should pony it up. According to the documents, the ex-socialite, oh,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: now you can use alleged here. Another lesson here at
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  Speaker 1: this writer's workshop over there at Radar Online. The ex-socialite,
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  Speaker 1: here's where you can use alleged. Alleged co-conspirator of Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's is also calling for the production of particular physical
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  Speaker 1: items that belong to Annie Farmer. Specifically, a journal, black boots,
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  Speaker 1: and certain photographs. Now, we know that that was part
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  Speaker 1: of the ask originally. That was part of the original
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: want by Maxwell's team. The boots, the journal, and now
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  Speaker 1: it looks like the add-ons here are some of the
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  Speaker 1: items that they might be requesting from Maria if that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be used as evidence moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: Very confusing stuff, right?
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  Speaker 1: Again, look, I'm not a lawyer. I'm trying to keep
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  Speaker 1: everything in order like you folks, too. It's just such
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  Speaker 1: a windy road we've been on, right? Each of the
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  Speaker 1: items specified in the Annie and Maria Farmer proposed subpoena
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  Speaker 1: is relevant, specific, and admissible, Maxwell argues. These two alleged
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  Speaker 1: victims have publicly identified the materials and publicly proclaimed they
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  Speaker 1: corroborate and support their allegations. Yeah, that's usually what people
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  Speaker 1: do who are holding the truth. They're willing to come
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  Speaker 1: forward and tell their story. And that's what Maria and
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  Speaker 1: Annie have done. Maria since the mid-fucking 90s. So, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: sometimes when you're at the poker table, you think you
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  Speaker 1: got a great hand. When in reality, the person sitting
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  Speaker 1: across from you is about to smash you. Maxwell is
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  Speaker 1: demanding the items be investigating, noting that if the diaries
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  Speaker 1: turn out to have been altered or do not exist,
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  Speaker 1: then the absence of this evidence is also relevant and
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  Speaker 1: admissible at trial. Well, look, let's be real. If someone
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  Speaker 1: has a diary from 2000 and it's gone, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big issue.
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  Speaker 1: Not like somebody destroyed a computer the night before they
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  Speaker 1: were going to a trial. I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't have very many documents from 2000, 2001, 2002, 1995.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have very many documents laying around. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I have any. Main stuff, birth certificate,
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  Speaker 1: social security card, shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: But a journal? Nah, nope, don't have that.
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine has been locked up at a Brooklyn detention center
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  Speaker 1: since July 2020. Her sex trafficking trial is set to
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  Speaker 1: begin in November. All right, folks, well, that's the latest.
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  Speaker 1: That's where we're at. That's the new ask from Team Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: Now the ball bounces back to the court of the prosecutors,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll see what they have to say about all
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of this. And obviously, we'll see what Judge Nathan has
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  Speaker 1: to say.
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  Speaker 2: But one thing is... very, very clear. We're very close
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  Speaker 2: to this trial.
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  Speaker 1: And soon, that jury room and that courtroom door is
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  Speaker 1: going to close. And all of the technicalities and all
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of the loopholes in the world and all of the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: character assassination that you could possibly pay for Is not
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: going to do you any good. Because from where I'm sitting.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And obviously just my opinion. Maxwell and her team. Are
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: in big big trouble. They're asking for. This evidence and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: you know again. This is all this is how this
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: works right. You have this phase where the defense, they're
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: going to want everything that they possibly can collect to
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  Speaker 1: try and piece together this defense of their client. And
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: anything that they can use to try and destroy credibility,
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  Speaker 1: that's the number one weapon used by a defense attorney.
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  Speaker 2: And it's fair game.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it goes, right? And you see how these
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: cross-examinations go in these courtrooms. You see how brutal they
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: can be.
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  Speaker 2: But with that said.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Team Maxwell can ask for all the items in the world.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: They can examine whatever they want. Because when all is
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: said and done, all that's going to matter is the truth.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
• 22:52
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• 23:01
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• 23:09
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• 23:11
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  Speaker 2: Whatever it is that drives you, the U.S.