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“The Patriarchy” is killing women via “forced birth” now? | HBR Talk 331 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: HBr Talk three thirty one. The patriarchy is killing women
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  Speaker 1: via forced birth. Now I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here
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  Speaker 1: with the person Modification of Perceptivity, Mike Stevenson and nonsense
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  Speaker 1: annihilator Lauren Brooks. And tonight we've got a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. Actually we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that subject.
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  Speaker 2: podcasts and I raise all the things that went wrong,
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  Speaker 2: try to tell everyone just just don't bother talking about
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  Speaker 2: the things.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately there are people, Yeah, but we are listen.
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  Speaker 1: There are people listening Glibe and they deserve an explanation.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to do that. Do you understand how
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  Speaker 1: much of a body count I would have.
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  Speaker 2: I would be very upset, even even even the people
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  Speaker 2: listening live. I'm interested in what they just want to.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna show, They're gonna listen to it because I'm
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  Speaker 3: Ha.
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  Speaker 1: So so basically, yeah, the upshot is, I uh, I
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ships to talk about and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: all very important. So before we get into.
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  Speaker 2: The me in the meantime, I don't have one of
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  Speaker 2: those the party.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm trying to the sound of we're
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  Speaker 1: not there yet. We're not there.
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  Speaker 2: We're in a good timeline, yay, at least until the notice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I lost my train of thought.
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  Speaker 2: Never mind your train of thought.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think. I think my train of
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  Speaker 1: thought actually actually was on the same track as the
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  Speaker 1: Trump train somewhere. But yeah, I was leading up to
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  Speaker 1: something I was going to say that I wanted to introduce.
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  Speaker 2: But I guess you have to do your spiel and
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  Speaker 2: you'll figure it out while you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So no, that's what I was. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about tonight, so bear with us. The
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  Speaker 1: topic is probably a few minutes away because we have
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  Speaker 1: some other things that we're going to introduce first. So
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  Speaker 1: don't get mad that the topic is not the first
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  Speaker 1: thing that we're talking about, because that I get that
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  Speaker 1: all the time from people. So just listen, it's coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and if you want to be happy about it or
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  Speaker 1: pissed off about it or whatever, be that when it
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  Speaker 1: comes up, because we got there's a whole bunch. So
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  Speaker 1: the first thing is Trump one suck at feminists. Ye, boy,
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  Speaker 1: patriarchy one feminist zero, Yes, all right, patriarchy one feminist zero.
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  Speaker 1: And this I will say it that way because everything
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  Speaker 1: before Trump one stops mattering after Trump one. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna say that everything is going to change tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: when everything's fixed on January first and all that, we
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  Speaker 1: know there's a lot of hard work that is still
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  Speaker 1: coming up. And so we're going to be doing this
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  Speaker 1: show on the topic of debunking some feminist claims about
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  Speaker 1: the patriarchy, because I false allegations are my primary issue
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  Speaker 1: as a as a men's rights activist. That's what got
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  Speaker 1: me off my ass and doing instead of just being sympathetic.
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  Speaker 1: So because I've seen a shitload of guys in my life,
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  Speaker 1: just personally, guys that I know, going through false allegations,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of those false allegations are facilitated by
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  Speaker 1: the type of false allegations that we're addressing tonight. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's the first thing, you know, Trump Trump one,
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  Speaker 1: feminist zero. And then the second thing is in light
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  Speaker 1: of that, I expect to see people stepping up their activism,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's just louder advocacy, more frequent advocacy, more
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  Speaker 1: social media posts, more sharing of MRA content. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to go march in the streets. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: to go visit your representatives. That Overton window moving the
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  Speaker 1: way that it has moved is the reason why we
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  Speaker 1: don't have a feminist in chief right now in the office,
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  Speaker 1: in the office that determines whether the United States makes
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  Speaker 1: war on half the world, the office that determines whether
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  Speaker 1: or not men get conscripted, The office that determines how
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  Speaker 1: stupid and dumbed down our population is going to be
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  Speaker 1: by our own education system. The office that determines what
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  Speaker 1: rights fathers have to protect their children from being badly
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  Speaker 1: raised in single mother homes, in under the poverty level. Right,
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  Speaker 1: these are things that we can't have a feminist in
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  Speaker 1: charge of. And men are the reason Trump got into office.
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  Speaker 1: You did it. Men stepped up in record numbers and
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  Speaker 1: voted for Trump. And it doesn't even matter if Trump
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  Speaker 1: does everything he says he's going to do. It matters
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  Speaker 1: that he's not going to do everything that Kamala said
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  Speaker 1: she was going to do. I hope he does everything
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  Speaker 1: he said he was going to do. I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I hope he tears down the bureaucracy. I hope he
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  Speaker 1: changes policy in regard to the education system, and in
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  Speaker 1: regard to the divorced system, and do process rights and
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  Speaker 1: so on, in order to protect civil rights that have
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  Speaker 1: been taken away from men and restore them and prevent
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  Speaker 1: them from being infringed on again. I hope all those
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  Speaker 1: things happen. But I'm just happy that there is not
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  Speaker 1: an unaccountable woman in the White House right now. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope that women, aside from the idgits, they're out
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  Speaker 1: there advocating for the adoption of the I think it's
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  Speaker 1: South Korean feminism that has like the four no's and
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  Speaker 1: and they're not going to have sex with men and
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to reproduce, and like, Okay, you guys
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  Speaker 1: can go the way the Shakers, you know, Like if
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  Speaker 1: you guys don't know who the Shakers are, there's a reason,
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  Speaker 1: look it up. Like not it's making not having sex
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  Speaker 1: your one of your tenets of faith, Like not having
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  Speaker 1: sex at all, not having children at all one of
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  Speaker 1: your tenants of faith kind of destroys your ability to
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  Speaker 1: maintain your population and grow as as a oh.
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  Speaker 2: The blue head wine on cat ladies aren't going to
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  Speaker 2: have sex with all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not worried. In fact, I hope that they do
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  Speaker 1: everything they say they're going to do, because then their
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  Speaker 1: way of thinking will just die out right. That'd be great.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean exactly, because their way of thinking is
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  Speaker 5: ultimately the feminist goal, the destruction of the family, not
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  Speaker 5: just the family, but society to the point where we
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  Speaker 5: don't even want to copulate, we don't even want to procreate,
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  Speaker 5: and that's where we are now. I mean, well to
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  Speaker 5: an extent, but these are these are the things that
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  Speaker 5: these women are saying openly, like proudly. They don't even
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  Speaker 5: know what they're asking for. They don't even know what
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  Speaker 5: they're saying. They're just saying it because it makes them
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  Speaker 5: feel good. They have this sense of you know, selfish
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  Speaker 5: or you know, self righteousness about them that I'm just
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  Speaker 5: not gonna I'm standing on principles and I'm finally not
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  Speaker 5: gonna let random dudes fuck me.
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  Speaker 2: In a self depleting force throughout all History's this is
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  Speaker 2: why you've never seen this as a recordably historical force
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  Speaker 2: for our history, because wherever they came about, people were like, well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: don't have kids and you'll just die out. And it
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  Speaker 2: worked for all of history, but the only reason it's
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  Speaker 2: come about in the last couple of hundred years is
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  Speaker 2: because of this. I don't even know what to attribute
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  Speaker 2: it to. It's because it's taken off in universities, and
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  Speaker 2: the Overton window has since been pushed in that direction
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  Speaker 2: to the point where they can even affect even a
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  Speaker 2: growing minority of the population, where they can convince a
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  Speaker 2: large amount of women to just not have children. It's,
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  Speaker 2: like I say, it's only worked recently because they can
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  Speaker 2: get through to such a large amount of people. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't quite I quite articulate how
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  Speaker 2: it's worked in the last thousand years, But I think
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  Speaker 2: it's largely because of the education system and the media system.
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  Speaker 2: And thank god that you you finally elected a government
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  Speaker 2: that's going to gut the education system and the media system.
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  Speaker 3: Ah yeah, I would love to see, like all all
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  Speaker 3: of the things that the government has been doing to
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  Speaker 3: support the misinformation.
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  Speaker 1: That's coming out of the media, the feminist narratives, the
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  Speaker 1: feminist attacks on men and men's civil rights and human rights,
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  Speaker 1: on the family, and so on, Like all the things
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  Speaker 1: the government's been done to facilitate that. If all those
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  Speaker 1: things just stopped, that would be enough. The government doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to do anything anti feminist. The government doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to do anything. I would prefer the government not do anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I would rather not have a government.
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  Speaker 1: But if we're going to have one, I would like
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  Speaker 1: to see it cut down to the bare minimum, doing
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  Speaker 1: almost nothing and being focused on things like keeping us
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  Speaker 1: from having attack on our soil and uh keeping keeping
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  Speaker 1: it easy for interstate commerce to take place, like that's
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  Speaker 1: that's those are good purposes for a federal government if
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  Speaker 1: we really have to have one. Right aside from that,
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  Speaker 1: we don't really need it to do a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: other things, you know. It just needs to quit everything
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't involve relationships with other countries and you know,
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  Speaker 1: our our economic relationships and our our security relationships with
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  Speaker 1: other countries, and keeping open communications and travel and trade
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  Speaker 1: between the states, like that's that's enough. And honestly, the
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  Speaker 1: federal government shouldn't even be the one maintaining the military.
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  Speaker 1: That should be up to the states too. It should
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  Speaker 1: just be facilitating it if it's doing anything. But if
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  Speaker 1: we had that, a lot of the problems that Trump
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  Speaker 1: got elected to address would never have existed in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. But that's the first thing that I want
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  Speaker 1: to point in. So, yeah, we are celebrating. And as
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  Speaker 1: to the feminists that are having their temper tantrums and
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  Speaker 1: threatening to have U sex strike, the the theme response
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  Speaker 1: to that is nobody cares. Nobody cares. Call that to
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  Speaker 1: the Gulag singers. We have to do that. That's an
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  Speaker 1: a necessary upcoming project. Yes, absolutely. But the next thing
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about, and this is important, and
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  Speaker 1: this has absolutely nothing to do with the show topic,
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  Speaker 1: but it is pertinent today and I want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that people have this information. It's what's on your screen.
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  Speaker 1: So Mankind Initiative posted a tweet. I have pinned a
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  Speaker 1: tweet a quote tweet of this tweet on my account,
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  Speaker 1: my my post, my x account, so that people can
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  Speaker 1: find this. And I don't want you to retweet me
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  Speaker 1: or repost my post. I want you to click on
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  Speaker 1: the quoted post and retweet, repost that, post it everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: use the hashtag repost with comment so people will see it.
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  Speaker 1: Point it out.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This is a list of Mankind's directory of services for
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  Speaker 1: men who are experiencing domestic abuse and so November is
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  Speaker 1: like November has International Men's Day, it is after after
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  Speaker 1: October's domestic abuse Awareness months, which you know, I we
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  Speaker 1: tweeted and posted on other social media and talked a
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  Speaker 1: bit about the fact that most domestic abuse is female
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  Speaker 1: perpetrated against male victims, and people are not really aware
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  Speaker 1: of it because there's been that burgeoning feminist industry to
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  Speaker 1: exploit men and to exploit sympathy for women and break
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  Speaker 1: up families using these allegations.
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  Speaker 3: But this.
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  Speaker 1: Provision of resources for men who are going through it
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  Speaker 1: is vital to preventing the damage that gets done, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not a lot of people think of domestic violence
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  Speaker 1: against men as women futile, futially engaging in you know,
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  Speaker 1: pounding and slapping and yelling and nagging and stuff. There
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  Speaker 1: are women that have poured boiling water on their partners.
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  Speaker 1: There are women who have stabbed their partners. There are
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  Speaker 1: women who have hit their partners with frying pan made
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  Speaker 1: out of iron, women who have starved their partners economically
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  Speaker 1: abuse their partners like, there's very serious abuse that takes place,
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  Speaker 1: and even if there wasn't, it's still not okay to
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  Speaker 1: hit someone just because they're bigger. And stronger than you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the easiest things to just omit from
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  Speaker 5: your thought process is the fact that you know, people
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  Speaker 5: who live together, one of them has to go to
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  Speaker 5: sleep eventually, and that's when a man is vulnerable.
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  Speaker 6: He's the most vulnerable because he does not know what's
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  Speaker 6: happening to him.
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  Speaker 5: And that's when women will fucking attack and do it
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  Speaker 5: in the most brule of ways, as we saw with
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  Speaker 5: Lorena Bobbit, yes right in his sleep, cut his genitals off,
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  Speaker 5: which could have killed him. Yes, yes, And it was
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  Speaker 5: the laughing stock of the media for the next couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks, if not months, years.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, went on for.
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  Speaker 2: Years to this day. In fact, you know it's.
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  Speaker 1: People treat it as a joke because it happened to
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  Speaker 1: a man, But if he had done something of equal
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  Speaker 1: personal threat and intimate threat to her, or even a
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  Speaker 1: lesser threat, it would be the outrage of the century.
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  Speaker 2: There is no equivalent, by the way, because as I
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  Speaker 2: said in my last video, men have genitals on the
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  Speaker 2: outside of their bodies. Women, I mean women have breasts
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  Speaker 2: on the outside of their bodies.
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  Speaker 1: But it's yeah, but we don't have the.
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  Speaker 2: Off someone's breasts in their sleep without waking them up.
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  Speaker 2: You can do it quite easily with a sharp enough
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  Speaker 2: object to a man's genitalia. This is this is one
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  Speaker 2: of those ways in which men are vulnerable in a
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  Speaker 2: way women are not. That they are they are one
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  Speaker 2: swift I mean garden shares can do it. I sufficiently
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  Speaker 2: sharp knife. Yeah, any knife can do it. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: men have a vulnerability that women don't. I know, this
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  Speaker 2: is difficult to get across to people because they're so
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  Speaker 2: brainwashed into thinking that women have all the problems, especially
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the genital region. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is one of those This is one of
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  Speaker 2: those areas in which which in which men are more vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: But this is hard to get across to people because
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  Speaker 2: the very idea of men being vulnerable is just it
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  Speaker 2: just rubs people the wrong way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and and and of course the idea that that
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  Speaker 1: women can be culpable rubs people the wrong way as well.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you recognize men's vulnerability. Feminists like to redirect
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  Speaker 1: will most people who harm men or other men, but
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  Speaker 1: not when it comes to domestic violence. Right, men are
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  Speaker 1: not as protected as women from violence on the street.
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  Speaker 1: That is caused by social ills that lead to people
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  Speaker 1: engaging in thievery and trying to hide criminal activities. They're
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  Speaker 1: more likely to not do anything to a woman if
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  Speaker 1: they see her, and also women are less likely to
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  Speaker 1: be and to put themselves in dangerous situations like that
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  Speaker 1: to get to and from work or other necessary things
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  Speaker 1: in their lives that men men have to take those risks,
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  Speaker 1: women don't necessarily have to take those risks.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to domestic violence, men are significantly less
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  Speaker 1: protected than women by the state. Women are incredibly protected
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  Speaker 1: by the state, to the degree that it really only
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  Speaker 1: happens when women choose to be in an environment with
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  Speaker 1: one of the few men who is willing to harm
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  Speaker 1: them or a man who doesn't have the control to
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  Speaker 1: refrain from fighting back if provoked. Because seventy percent of
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  Speaker 1: domestic violence victims who don't fight back with physical violence
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  Speaker 1: are men, right, only women can get away with that,
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  Speaker 1: and so most men don't do that, and the majority
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  Speaker 1: of victims of violence that goes two way are also men.
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  Speaker 1: Two way violence is associated with more violence from women,
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  Speaker 1: but not with more violence from men, so men women
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  Speaker 1: are more frequently violent when the violence is two way,
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  Speaker 1: meaning that women are initiating more of the time than
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  Speaker 1: men are initiating, and they're probably also retaliating more of
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  Speaker 1: the time than men are retaliating, and so you have
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  Speaker 1: a significant amount of violence coming from women and men
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  Speaker 1: do not have the assistance they need from the state.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I wanted to highlight this tweet, this
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  Speaker 1: post on X because this is vital information for men
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  Speaker 1: who need assistance. So, like I said, if you are
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  Speaker 1: on x and if you follow me, you can go
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  Speaker 1: to my profile already. If you don't follow me, we'll
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  Speaker 1: go back here. See if this will go back to
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  Speaker 1: my post. This is my user name right here. And
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the too dangerous for Facebook thing is because I posted
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  Speaker 1: a link on Facebook to one of my own articles
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  Speaker 1: that I wrote and Facebook took it down as being
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  Speaker 1: from a dangerous group of people. So obviously I'm dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, for everything the new administration is talking about,
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  Speaker 2: I'm about make America healthy again. They're gonna they're going
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  Speaker 2: to fix our dietary habits. They're gonna, they're proposing to
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  Speaker 2: fix the problem of of of biological men competing in
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  Speaker 2: women's sports. They're gonna they're gonna fix all the problems
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  Speaker 2: of all these men coming across the border.
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  Speaker 1: Easy way to fix that, you want to if you
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  Speaker 1: want to get biological men out of women's sports, you
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  Speaker 1: take a year or two and you desegregate sports entirely,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: no gender segregation whatsoever. There will be no benefit to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: competing as a woman.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to do that. They're obviously
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: they're obviously not going to take it all the way
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to to the end point in order to to try
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and teach people, to teach these people lesson, because these people, well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It's not to take lesson, it is it is to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: demonstrate that, you know, if it's true, and I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it is. I think there are a significant amount of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: people who do not have a sense of sportsmanship who
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: are engaging in this, Guys that don't have a sense
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of sports sportsmanship who are competing against women because it's easier,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: which kind of is an admission of failure on their
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: part in my opinion. And then there's a very small
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: number of uh maybe actual trans women who who are
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: caught in the crosshairs crossfire of all of this, Right,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: but I would bet you that the overwhelming majority of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: instances is where a biological male is competing in women's sports.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: It's because they know the contrary to feminist narratives, on average,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: men outperform women athletically in in pretty much every way,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: in pretty much every sport. The only the only thing
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that women can outperform men on is sports where flexibility
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: is the primary benefit, the primary skill required to do
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this sport. So unless a guy has a disorder like
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Aayler's dan Low syndrome that causes joint Harper hypermobility, women
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: are going to outperform men in contortionist sports.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: But in any case, yeah, you could fix the problem
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: entirely by taking that benefit away for a little while.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It would immediately prove because I think that it would
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: almost disappear. The issue would almost disappear of biological men
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: competing in women's sports. It would suck for women for
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a few years. But if women were like men, they
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: would be willing to make that sacrifice in order to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: gain the evidence that's needed to put the kabash to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that issue. But instead, we're probably going to see a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: very hard fight between Democrats and Republicans, and there's going
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to be allegations of isms and phobias on both sides.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And to be fair, and I've been a female athlete.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I was a hurdler on my track team in high
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: school and I was fourth placed in my league of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: various schools. And then I was also a cross country runner,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and I sucked fat, steaming donkey balls at that. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: came in last in every race. It wasn't really about
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: winning for me against other people. It was about winning
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: against my asthma, so that didn't matter. But I was
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a good hurdler, not as good as the gal I
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: ran with. She was a state champion in more than
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: one event. But you know, just as personally as an athlete,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: having seen and as a journalist, because I was working
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: as a journalist at the time as well, having seen
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: what women did to men's sports over the last twenty
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: thirty years, actually over the last fifty years since Title
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: nine came about and then immediately went from being about
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: academics to sports being about sports. I don't have a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: lot of sympathy right the girls today that are in
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: sports are benefiting from fifty years of women tearing down
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: men's sports instead of building up women's sports. So y'all
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: are are you know? I'm sorry that it's falling on
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Generation Z and Generation Alpha. But y'all are reeping what
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Boomer women and gen X women and to a degree,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: millennial women sewed and for them, not men.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: For everything Trump's talking about, for everything Elon Musk is
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: talking about for everything RFJ RFK. Sorry, it's talking about
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They're only talking about pushing back on all these ways
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: in which biological men are oppressing about logical women in
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: women's sports and health and what have you. They're really
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: not talking about any of the stuff we were talking
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: about back in twenty fourteen. Yeah, so it's I know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: it seems like a push forward to do in terms
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of what we were talking about twenty ten years ago.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it's only the first step. It's going
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to take a long time. It's even a lot more
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: than the next four years for any of them to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: get hold of of what us in the men's rights
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: movement I've been talking about for the last ten years,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: where it's not just about you know, men who call
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: themselves women oppressing women who call themselves women.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go so far as to say
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that women are not oppressed by this, all right, and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this is this is a lot of people. What I'm
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: about to say. This isn't going to sit right with you,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and it's fine. You can disagree with me. You can
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: talk about it in the comments. This is my stance
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: on it, all right, as a person with disabilities who
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: participated in sports with other people with disabilities, and including
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a friend of mine who participated it as a shot
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: putter who had cerebral palsy like and and did better
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: than average. You know, I'm against the idea that we
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: should coddle athletes in any way, and I do think
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that the gender division is a type of coddling. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: don't think that it's wrong necessarily for there to be
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a gender division, but I think that women have created
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: an environment in which they don't have any right to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: complain about losing it. So, going back to my childhood,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: my early childhood in the seventies, when I was a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: little kid and not yet involved in high school sports,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: just playing little girls softball. We didn't use a locker
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: room or anything like that. Right, there were journalists, female
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: journalists that were fighting for access to the locker rooms
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of male athletes after their athletic performance in whatever sport
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that they were engaging and competing in. And this was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a one sided thing, right. Nobody was fighting for male
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: journalists to have access to the locker rooms of female
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: athletes after their athletic performance was over. It was just
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: women wanting access to the locker rooms of men. And
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: as soon as they got that, you know, they did
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: they started going in and doing interviews and everything. And
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: within a very short time, less than a year, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: want to say, afterward, the first article came out about
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: how sexist the men in the locker rooms were for
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: using the locker rooms for their intended purposes despite the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: fact that there were women coming in there to interview them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: It took zero time for women to demand that men
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: change their use of the environment for its intended purpose
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: because the women were in there after assuring the public
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that they were not going to do that. And then
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: when I was in high school and I was actually
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: doing photography for local newspaper and I was working with
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: other photojournalists on the sidelines of various athletic events and everything,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: but especially football, there were discussions going on about it
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: because there was this lawsuit, this impending lawsuit, and this
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the woman that sued,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: but she basically made allegations of misconduct because of this
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: demand that men not use their locker rooms for the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: purpose that locker rooms were created for if there were
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: women coming in there to interview them, right, it's abuse
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of women if they invade your naked space and you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: don't suddenly we stop going about your business and put
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: some clothes on or something. If you want to talk
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: football today, it is just like that to me that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that was really embarrassing when that happened. I didn't want
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to go into the locker rooms. I wasn't interviewing anybody.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I was doing photography, so granted, I'm not I'm not
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: interested in going where the players are naked. I'm interested
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in going where the players are making plays that I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: want to get great pictures of and everything. So I was.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I was always only on the sidelines. I didn't have
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to worry about that right as far as uh, as
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: far as the division between men and women in sports,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: boys and girls in sports, I noticed personally that I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: benefited from running against both sexes, and from running again
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: against people that were significantly better than me at what
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I was doing. I don't think I ever would have lettered.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever would have placed if I
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: hadn't had a state champion that I was trying to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: catch up to. And I don't think that I would
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: have been as good at it as I was if
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I hadn't also been practicing with the boys.
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: So.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Don't I don't like the idea that it's considered oppression
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: if boys and girls and men and women are competing
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: with each other. And then there are some obvious exceptions,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like sports where there is direct person to person competition
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of strength and toughness, where you're not not just like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the strong man events where you're throwing logs and stuff
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: like that, but where you're actually wrestling each other or
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: boxing each other, you know, or I think even mock
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: weapons fights of different types use weight classes. That's fair,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And I believe that men and women of different weights
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: would go into different weight classes, and the heaviest weight
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: would probably be all men because men have men's bones
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: way more than women's bones, and then men have a
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: heavier muscle structure than women do. And I think those
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: weight divisions might make a big difference as far as
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: competition goes in women's ability to compete with men of
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: their weight class and so on. Now, I don't think
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that it's necessarily going to always be the case. But
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: for instance, the Olympic boxer that there was that big
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: controversy about, everybody jumped the gun on talking about this individual.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: They they did confirm, God, can't you give her name,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: his name however they're identifying. But the the individual that
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: was proof to have testicles, like internal testicles, and it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: so it's a this is a you mean that middle Yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So now it would be the time like this is
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: where people can jump in and say, yes, this is
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a this is a male participating in women's sport, somebody
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that was raised as a girl, somebody that isn't as
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: going to have the same advantages as a full on
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: non intersex male and isn't going to have all of
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the disadvantages as of a woman either, Right, But there
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: were women who beat that boxer in preview events. That's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: not a boxer that has won every event, and so
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: it is possible for women to compete with males and win.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I mean I did that when I was in high
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: school too. I should have run the four hundred and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't, but at practice I did, and we went
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: all out. Because I come from a community where we
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: have a lot of fun doing stuff like that, right,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And I beat everybody, but three people on my team
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: had an asthma attack in the middle of it. Finished
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: during the asthma attack. But I came in fourth on
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: my team including all the boys, and one of the
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: other people who beat me was a girl. So half
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: of the winners were girls and half of the winners
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: were boys on the team. And I had the same
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: experience with I tried out the boys hurdles because they
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: had the high hurdles, right, and we had the medium
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: hurdles and I could run those because I was tall
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: so and I beat some of the boys doing that too.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So like it's it's not a cut and dried issue,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and it I don't think oppression is the narrative that
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: should be considered when it comes to this. It's the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: issue is one of whether or not the competition is
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: rigorous and sportsmanlike, and it's it's I wouldn't have run
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: hurdles against a five year old, for instance, I wouldn't
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: have tried to run the high hurdles against somebody that
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: was five 't two, you know, especially not another girl,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: because it's not sportsmanlike. Anthony Huber says four hundred meters. Yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that's all it took to because an asthma attack was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: sprinting allows you four hundred.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Meters khalif or a main khalif.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, is the name.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this this was all sorted out in the original
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Olympic Games because it was only men who were allowed
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: to compete. Well, I guess it was everyone who was
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: allowed to compete in the Olympic Games in the in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: its original inception, Like if you're if you were a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: woman who was able to compete alongside the men, then
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: by all means you could do so. Yeah, if you
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: were if you were a man with a micro penis
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and balls that had been sucked up inside his body,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: then you were perfectly able to compete.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Well, technically they're not sucked up. They just never they
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: they start out in internal in utero and eventually they
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: they're undescended, they don't come out.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: The whole dispute was already considered by like, if you're anyone, male, female, intersex, whatever,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: if you can compete alongside the the all the other
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: best athletes, then by all means give.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It a go.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: The only reason Emagner Kalif or Aman Khalif or whatever
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: was able to was able to compete in the first place,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: was because he was able to compete to compete in
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the women's competition as a man. And the only reason
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: that was able to happen was because of this, this
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: this sort of bizarre reimagination of of gender or what
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: we call gender. And and this only ever became a
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: problem when when when women developed their own competition, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: that and that threw up into uh, into obscurity, this
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: whole id of what the difference is between a man
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: and a woman.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Although, to be fair, fifty years ago, when you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: women's competitions were sort of they weren't new, like women
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: have been competing in the Olympics for most of since
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: early in the twentieth century. Right, they didn't have the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: technology to confirm the undescended testicles and micro penis that
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they confirmed in this instance, Right, they didn't He would
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: have been able to compete as a woman due to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: a lack maybe not fifty years ago, but eighty years ago,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: due to a lack of any evidence, because they would
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: not have been able to find the evidence they would
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: have said, yeah, this is a very masculine looking woman,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: but a gynecological exam would not have demonstrated that this
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: was a biological male. So what we're partly what we're
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: looking at in in that particular instance, is that technology
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: has made it possible to more strictly segregate sports. And
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: there were girls I ran against in high school that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: looked every bit as masculine. So and I've had people
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: suggest that I look that masculine, especially if they view
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: me from a from particular angles where my jaw is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: more prominent in the picture. And I've even had people
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: accuse me of having an Adams Apple if the shadows
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: hit run, you know, which I don't. And I've I've
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: had a DNA test. I'm fully two X chromosome, and like,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that's that's not my mutation. The mutation I have is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the motherfucker teen. I just have to find a way
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: to make my body work better with foll eight. That's it,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you know, Like that's it's a lot easier to deal with.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't have most of the health conditions that
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: can be associated with that, just some of the really
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: bad ones. But like you just don't you can't look
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: at the situation and say this is cut and dried,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: because it's not.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: It could all easily be cut and dried if we
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: just said whoever qualifies qualifies qualifies. If we did that,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: then no women would qualify. And that's that's why so
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: many feminists were like, well, you can't do this because
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: then no women would qualify. And we need women to
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: qualify because because you can't just have a competition where
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: everyone is male. That'ssogynistic. And you can extend that to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things such as well like government and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: like whoever can lead government and whoever can vote for government. Yeah,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: but that's different because because men and women have different bodies,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: but they don't have different minds, while they do have
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: different minds. But that's I guess that's not the point.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Is it the point? I guess it is the point
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: at the bottom.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: The bottom line for me is that the allegation of
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: oppression by by not giving women their own special space is,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, it's disproven bye by the change the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: fact that more and more specific medical information has had
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to be had to be used to disqualify people who
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: are have been raised as females and competed as females
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: that have been defeated by females from participating in female
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: specific sports. So well, that said, and and again I'm
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: gonna remind people if you follow me on X go
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to my profile, look at my pen tweet and uh,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you're watching this like two
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: or three years from now, and it's not my pin
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: tweet anymore, because I do change my pen tweet frequently.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't posted a lot to hashtag men.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You are not alone because I wanted to highlight this.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So just search my my profile name that you see
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: there and the hashtag and you'll you'll find it. Right
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you retweet that, repost that, post the information, go to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the website and post the link yourself, and you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: just highlight it for people to have it, because it
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: is it is very important for me to know. But
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: with all of that said, it's eight o'clock already, let's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: get to the rat killing. I I wanted to talk
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: about this false allegation. That is I'm already seeing it
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: batted around like the election was on Tuesday. Right Wednesday
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: morning it was confirmed that definitely Trump was elected. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: by Wednesday evening I saw the first.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Oh whether there's women are gonna die in mass the
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: patriarchy is using forced birth to murder women. There's women
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: rape victims are not gonna be able to get their abortions,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and blah blah. So before I get into that, there
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: are two things I gotta do. The first one is
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: full disclosure. I'm pro life. Everybody knows I'm pro life.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: And also full disclosure, I'm in cap I don't think
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: the government needs to be involved in that. If there's
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: gonna be laws about murder, I don't think abortions should
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: be an exception to those laws. Right, the same conditions
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: should apply. You have the right self defense, but you
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: don't have the right to kill somebody because they're inconvenient
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: to you. But I don't think there should be I
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: don't think there should have to be some separate narrative
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: or legislation or anything governing That should be pretty simple.
• 46:08
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• 46:18
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  Speaker 2: The prediction the Trump administration will end the war between
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  Speaker 2: Great Russia. This result in the in the mainstream media
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  Speaker 2: continuing to push the idea that Trump is a Russian
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  Speaker 1: Totally Yeah, according to feminists and the mainstream media. I
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• 52:05
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• 52:17
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• 52:21
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• 52:23
  Speaker 1: have anything to do with them, but they do. So, like,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I hope he ends the conflict. But with that so,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna start showing a bunch of the tweets
• 52:37
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• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get into is we already know the allegation,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and I kind of posted the allegation as in the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: low bar here. Post election hysteria has started lamentations of
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: feminist women who claim women and girls will soon be
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: dropped being dead all over the United States from the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: mysterious patriarchy inflicted malady of forced birth due to predicted
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Trump mandated denial of women's medical or healthcare, we are told,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: and healthcare is in scare quotes. There for a reason.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: We are told Trump voters are denying women's therapeutic abortion
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: in cases of medical need or when the pregnancy was
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: caused by a criminal act. So that's what we're examining,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: that allegation. And I've already examined that allegation once. I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: looked into this a while back when a movie called
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Call Jane came out and I watched a trailer for it,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: and so I have a video on this topic already
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: on a channel. The title of the video me look
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: up here because I can't remember. Are the allegations of
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: patriarchal oppression in Call Jane true? And I'm going to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: skip most of my transcript script here because it's it's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: really not most of it's not important, but the story
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: from this it's a main character with a problem pregnancy
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: with complications that, according to her doctor, have a fifty
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: percent chance of killing her. A panel of male doctors
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: votes to not allow the abortion. She sees a flyer
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: for the Jane Collective, which was a real thing. It existed,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: burying the film's title called Jane. And so for the
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: rest of the trailer, it goes through like moments from
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: from the film showing her seeking out this abortion and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the difficulties. Apparently that this this collective had right, So
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: it makes it look like, you know, if abortion is
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: restricted in any way, women are going to die like
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: and it's going to be a big problem. It's going
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to be a frequent thing. So I went through and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: looked up information on how many how many abortions are
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: actually life saving procedures. So Anthony Huber, permanently retired skateboarder,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: asked the question therapeutic abortion and question mark exclamation point, rense, repeat,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: which it does sound quite weird, right, therapeutic abortion? What's
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: therapeutic about killing your baby? So remember I mentioned the
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: term self defense, and my position on this is less
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: broad than that of the government. Historically, I consider abortion
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: to be a medical necessity in cases where pregnancy is doomed,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: so the baby's not going to survive the pregnancy and
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: the complications of pregnancy are causing the mother to be
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: threatened along with the doomed pregnancy, and so she can't
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: even carry to far enough for premature birth without her
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: life being threatened. Like that's that would make aborting in
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that situation a therapeutic abortion. In that it would reduce
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the number of deaths involved in that pregnancy from two
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: to one. And it's similar to if you have a
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: set of Siamese twins. I don't I know, they don't
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: call it that anymore. I can't think that there's a
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: term for when you are attached to somebody by your
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: bodily tissue being the same tissue. And I can't think
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: of the term conjoined conjoined twins if it is very
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: in very rare instances. There's times when the way that
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: they are conjoined is going to kill both of them
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: and there's a chance to save one. It's a horrible situation.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: It's a horrible choice for the parents and the doctors
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: have to make, and if they do make that choice
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and one survives, it reduces the number of deaths from
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: two to one. That's that's the only time in my
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: opinion that it's that it's actually therapeutic. I don't even
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: think it's therapeutic in cases of abortion unless that condition
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: is part of the situation, or in cases of rape,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I mean unless unless the death of mothers is imminent
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: from the pregnancy. But in any case, so as you
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: can see on the screen, let's look at how things
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: really were. According to the Chicago Tribune, this is this
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: is supposed to have taken place in I think it's
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: supposed to have taken place in Illinois. But yeah, Illinois
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: law criminalizing abortion passed in eighteen sixty seven and maintained
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and three years. It carried an exception
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: in cases of medical necessity rather broad standard, right, because
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: medical necessity isn't just the mother is going to die.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Doctors can determine medical necessity if it's not going to
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: be healthy for the mother to give birth. So I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: found no mention of a legally mandated panel to determine
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the validity of women's need for therapeutic abortion. There wasn't
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: anything barring a patient from obtaining a second opinion if
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: she was not satisfied with her initial assessment. One particular
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: facility in Chicago had its own panel to decide if
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: it's facility would do an abortion, but it didn't prevent
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: a woman from going, say, to another facility in another
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: area and getting it done. It didn't prevent women from
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: getting a second opinion and going back and saying, you
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: know this, my doctor says right. So it wasn't illegal.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And it was pretty consistent through various states that if
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the mother faced death from complications of pregnancy, the law
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: allowed for her to terminate that pregnancy.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So the first first thing is debunked is that women
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: needed abortion to be legalized because they were dying from
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: quote unquote forced birth when they were pregnant, which I'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: also to debunk the forced birth label, but just just
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: to reiterate here, abortion law as it stood before Roe v.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Wade did not prevent women whose pregnancies were threatening to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: kill them from getting abortions.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Roe v.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Wade did not save one single life of a woman
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: whose reason for having an abortion was because if she
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: tried to have the baby, she was gonna die, not one.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: So let's take a look at the next thing, because
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: we say the law didn't prevent women from having those abortions, right,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: So there's a portrayal of the organization as a savior
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of women doomed to die in childbirth without the benefit
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: of abortion. In reality, that wasn't even their main business.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: The Jaine Collective performed approximately eleven thousand abortions in Chicago
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: between nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy three. Excuse me, sorry, guys,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm trying to have the hiccups,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: but I know, is everybody able to still hear me?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, I can, Okay. So if we look at this,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: I think, wow, So in between nineteen sixty three or
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy three, where one thousand,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: eleven thousand women's lives endangered by their pregnancies that you know,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: couldn't get medical care, that couldn't couldn't get an abortion
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: done in a hospital or some other medical facility where
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: it was it was determined that their life was in
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: danger for the pregnancy and they were aborting for medical
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: reasons like that many. And just just Chicago alone that many.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: That's that's really a suspicious number in my opinion. It's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: like a really crazy statistic. So I went and I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: looked into it. Well. According to Public Health Effects of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: legal Abortion in the United States by Sarah L. Titzi
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and Richard Lincoln, UH, two point sixty one abortions per
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: one thousand life berths were performed on medical indications in
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, or approximately ninety abortions based on the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: number of live berths listed by infoplease dot com for
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that year, and in nineteen sixty eight that rose to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: five point one nine per one thousand live births for
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a total of eighteen thousand, a jump that can be
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: attributed to some states expanding the concept of maternal health
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: reasons to include the very very easy to exploit category
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: of mental health. So now we're looking at rather large
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: number of legal abortions. There were almost as many abortions
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: performed legally in medical facilities in nineteen sixty seven as
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: the three year total for abortions done just in Chicago
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: between nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy three by this collective.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: It seems like a huge number for the time.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking to hear a rather rather a large number.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: And then in the next year it was more there
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: were more legal abortions performed for for this issue medical issues, right,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: than there were done during that whole three year period
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: in Chicago. Now, I will point out this other thing, right.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Reasons for having Abortions in the United States by William
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Robert Johnson determined that ninety eight point three percent of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: abortions are elective, one tenths of one percent is done
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: to prevent the death of the mother, and another eight
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: tenths of one percent are done for other maternal health reasons,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: for a total of nine tenths of one percent being
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: falling into the category of health reasons. So the overwhelming
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: majority of abortion that these women are upset about, it's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: not about a life or death situation at all.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: It's about convenience, right, That's it?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: That is it?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: And I get all kinds of reasons from women, I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: won't be able to go to college if I if
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I don't have this abortion, right, well, I won't be
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: able to go to college. If I wanted to go
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to college right now, I couldn't go to college. I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: don't have the money for it. And I wouldn't be
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: eligible for a lot of scholarships and grants because I'm
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: middle aged, not in school right now. A lot of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: them are for young people. And my grades in high
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: school weren't great because my health sucked, and so I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't really eligible when I did go to college. And
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: if that was going to keep me from going to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: college because of financial reasons, the same reasons women cite
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: for abortion, Nobody anywhere would argue that that should make
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: it okay for me to go hunt down the people
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: that beat me out in competition for any scholarships and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: grants and eliminate them so that I could have the money.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Like nobody would argue that. Everybody could recognize that that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: would be reprehensible behavior and I should go to jail
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: for it if I did it. Right, But if it's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a baby, all of a sudden, it's okay, it's gonna
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: cost me money to have this baby, so I'm gonna
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: kill it. Like I don't get it. How can you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: differentiate like that?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: So, here we have this evidence that it's very very
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: rare for health reasons to be among abortions that get
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: done in the US, for health reasons to be the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: cause of an abortion. Right, So the CDC starts tracking
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: these numbers right after I want to say, nineteen seventy,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine or nineteen seventy, and so they showed,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: let's see, twelve thousand women twelve thousand, five hundred eighty
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: four actually in nineteen sixty nine were able to obtain
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: legal abortions one hundred and eighty thousand, one hundred nineteen
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and nineteen seventy two hundred twelve thousand, seventy five and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, and in nineteen seventy two half a million,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: more than half a million the year I was born.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I was born in nineteen seventy two, So there were
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: half a million babies aborted the year I was born.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: God damn, that's just an astonishing number to think about.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Yep. Half a million legal abortions.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Roe v.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Wade took effect in nineteen seventy three, the year that
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: was in it was in court in nineteen seventy two,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: So the year Roe v. Wade was in court arguing
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: that women could not get legal abortions, half a million
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: women got legal abortions.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: You're taking my rights away, yep.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I just want to point that out, patriarchy. Fuck face.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy three, when the ruling legalized abortion, the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: total number was six hundred thousand and fifteen or six
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen thousand, eight hundred and thirty one. Sorry,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: so another basically, it's less than less than another one
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand. So we went basically when we went from
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: eighty six to one hundred and fifteen, that's our difference,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: And of course it went up for years after that.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: So let's let's take a look at if nine tenths
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: of one percent of these abortions were done for maternal
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: health reasons. That's a total of five twenty eight or
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: two and eighty one in nineteen seventy two and five
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: forty three in nineteen seventy three. So plenty of women
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: who gave health reasons as their reasons for having abortions
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: were able to get them during that time and earlier.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Prior to those numbers, health reasons were the only legal
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: reasons to have an abortion, and even more women had
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: abortions with health reasons cited. So to attribute the eleven
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: thousand abortions done by the Jain Collective to life threatening
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: pregnancy complications, as call Jane implied, bullshit. We would have
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: to assume that on average, when let's go back to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: the numbers here when nine thousand abortions were being done
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: in legally in sixty seven and eighteen thousand and sixty eight,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: that somehow, in the midst of those huge numbers that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: suddenly shrank after abortion just became legal for whatever reason,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: that what is it over two thousand, almost three thousand
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: women a year with such complications would be denied care. Right,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: all those abortions for therapeutic reasons are getting done. It's
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: perfectly legal, and yet somehow three thousand women a year
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: are told no, but not for you. So why would
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: they be singled out? Or maybe that's not the truth.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe they lied about the reasons why women were seeking
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: out the Jaine collective. And if you think that maybe
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: doctors just, you know, out of hand, decided no, we're
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: gonna say no to these women even though even though
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: we're saying no at the risk of their lives. Let's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: take a look at the legal environment in which they
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: would be doing that, right, because you'd have to think
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: that the physicians at the time were just these angry, callous,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: domineering patriarchs that were willing to see these women die
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: in their care in order to deny them this one
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: particular medical procedure that was being so frequently done despite
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: being illegal unless you had a medical reason for it.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: So according to the article history of medical Malpractice in
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: the US, hopefully I'm pronouncing this right, I think the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: name is Chienese and Riley Law. The nineteen sixties saw
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: some of the highest medical malpractice awards payouts, creating an
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: industry threatening legal environment that led to malpractice reform, award caps,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: and the creation of doctrine of informed consent in medicine,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: which is like, for instance, I'm a certified medpasser, which
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: means that when it's time for the people that I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: work with to take the medications that are prescribed for
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: them by their doctors, I legally am capable of giving
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: them those meds. I can get their pills out, and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: however the procedure is determined for that individual, I can
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: do their medpass It can be anything from handing them
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: the pills and letting them take them to crushing them
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: and putting them in a substance that's easy to swallow
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: and giving them that substance with the medicines in it.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: You know, however it's administered. I can administer meds. I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: can give shots. Probably suck at that because I haven't
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: had to do it so far, but you know, I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: could do all of that. If I had a resident
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: that was on insulin, I could do their insulin shots.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: If I had a resident that used it inhaler, I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: would have to follow a procedure for that, you know,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: and part of the procedure is let's say I was
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: in charge of Lauren's careen. Lauren had a headache, and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I was going to give Lauren an aspirin. I can't
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: just get the bottle out give Lauren an aspirin. I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: have to say, Lauren, this is your aspirin. This is
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: you know, how were many milligrams of aspirin she was
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: prescribed for this, and this is for your headache. And
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: then however the procedure is, then I would have to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: give it. But Lauren has to tell me that she
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: wants that medicine before I can give it to her,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: unless it's prescribed, and then she still has to say
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: okay and accept it before I can give it to her.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: That's that's the law. That law came from these mal
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: practice reforms because medical mistakes happen sometimes when there's not
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: enough communication between the provider and the patient. So I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: even have to do that when I'm dealing with patients,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: when I'm helping patients that don't necessarily have the full
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: capacity to understand what I'm telling them about their meds
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: unless I'm really basic in how I describe it. So
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: for like this, this is this is very basic stuff
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: that today but during that time period that had to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: all be ironed out because there were the way that
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: lawsuits were progressing in the medical field. Uh, it was
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: very high risk for physicians and for for institutions.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: UH.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Gabriel Peel and Lucas asks, if the consent has to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: be enthusiastic, well, we'll well, we'll just say this. Only
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: yes means yes in that instance. If somebody doesn't say anything,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: you know, or doesn't cooperate and it is just non
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: responsive uh and and looks like a different than normal
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: behavior toward the idea of getting their medicine, and I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: have to work a little harder to make sure I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: know that they're okay with taking it they have. There
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: has to actually be a medical order to override their
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: consent for me to not get consent. And this is
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: true with everything that I do. And I have three
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: weeks of a vucation for this job specifically. I have
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: other education for other things, obviously, but this job specifically
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: three weeks of education a couple of days a year
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: of ongoing education to remind us of how to do
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: certain things. And that's it. If I stop and on
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the side of the road because there's been a car accident.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I see that somebody needs first aid, I have to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: get consent for that too, unless they're unconscious and it
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: looks like I'm gonna be letting them die if I
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: don't do something, I have to get in consent. So
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: there you go. But yeah, so the doctrine of informed consent,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: you got to tell people what you're doing for them,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: what it's gonna result in, what the risks are, and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: then get their consent before you actually perform the action.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: The top payouts were related to medical errors affecting patient
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: outcomes in infants during their birth, sometimes even in things
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: that a doctor couldn't do anything about, like there was
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: a there was a massive controversy over payouts for babies
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: born with cerebral palsy that might have been genetic causes
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: or were was caused by conditions during the pregnancy that
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the doctor had no way of being certain of or predicting.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: So the doctor couldn't have predicted that the baby would
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: be born with the disability and couldn't have helped the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: mother prepare or given the mother any kind of information
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: that would have made she could have, you know, discussed
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: with the father and said, hey, we're going to do this,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: or we're going to do that, We're going to get
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: prepared this way or that way. There was no warning
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: right and and the doctor was found liable despite having
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: no power to make a difference in the situation. So
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: it was a very high risk environment. And there were
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: high high malpractice awards given to doctors for adverse outcomes
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: following childbirth. How many of those doctors do you think
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: We're going to risk a malpractice suit involving a wrongful
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: preventable death knowing those facts, knowing that information during that time.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: So I declare the myth that women could not obtain
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: therapeutic abortion before Roe versus Wide hereby debunked. So from
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: there we get into let's see, I want to get
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: into just how high risk is mortality during pregnancy. So
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: the CDC tracks this, and they've got two different ways
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: that they talk about it. There's two different standards for reporting.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: One of them only goes like forty two days after
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: the birth and the other one goes a year after
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: the birth. But the upshot, let's see if this is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the right data. What I'm looking for now, that's total
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: deaths in the United States, So I am looking for
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: provisional maternal deaths. There we go, and I believe I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: opened that. Not there? All right, Provisional maternal mortality rates
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: twelve month period ending June twenty twenty four. A right
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: feminists really freaked out over legislation that was passed during
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration and during the last few years by
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: various states and everything, and so based on what they said,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: one would have expected a major spike in twenty twenty
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: three and early twenty twenty four in maternal deaths. But
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: what do you guys see on the screen there? Like
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: you look at this here, we have this spike here
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: during the COVID crisis, and it went down and it
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: kept going down.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: So here's.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Early twenty twenty. Here's let's see if I can get
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: that to stay popped up. Such a tiny little point
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: at which it comes up, there we go April twenty nineteen,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: total seventeen point seven per hundred thousand. Right, we're looking
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: at and we'll see if we'll give it to me.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: And there we go. Goush that such a tiny point.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I can't stay there. My hand's not that steady. Sorry, guys,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: but all right, So June twenty twenty three, nineteen point
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: six per hundred thousand, and we're seeing it drop over
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: this time period YEP nineteen point three, nineteen point oh,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: nineteen point oh, eighteen point seven, eighteen point five. I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: think that's the lowest point and then it sort of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: is bouncing back up here. So you're seeing even though
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: these laws go into effect, and we've seen the news
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: reporting on this. Oh, there's this epidemic of women dying
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: and wild birth because anti abortion legislation, patriarchy oppression. Women
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: are being killed by forced birth, except they're not not
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: not in more numbers than prior to prior to the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: COVID crisis. And this is again this isn't for people
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: want to argue that these numbers are you know, from
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: some mr A source. I just want to put it
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: on the screen ce DC National Center for Health Statistics,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: the people that feminists tell us we have to trust.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: AKA the science.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: The science. Now you get higher number if you use
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: the other standard. This is well within forty two days
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: of termination of a pregnancy, irrespective of the duration and
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the site of the pregnancy, from any cause related to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: or aggravated by the pregnancy or its management, but not
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: from accident or incidental cases. So this could include women
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: who died because of complications of abortion because termination of
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: the pregnancy. Some pregnancies terminate in abortion and some in childbirth.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Most in childbirth still but an increasing number an abortion.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: And there are two types of abortion. There is medical abortion,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: or like the surgical and drug abortions that are inflicted
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: on the unborn baby by a medical act, and then
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: there's spontaneous abortion, which is what is a miscarriage known
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: as or what a miscarriage is known as, So all
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: of those would be included. Miscarries which is usually occur
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: because something is wrong. Sometimes they occur due to injury
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: during the pregnancy, but they usually occur because something is wrong.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: And if something is wrong, it can include problems with
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: the mother's health, and so miscarriage cans. Miscarriage can also
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: include a fatal health reaction. For instance, my mom almost
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: died during a miscarriage. She almost bled to death. She
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: had she had injuries that occurred from other health conditions
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: that basically caused the miscarriage, and the miscarriage caused hemorrhaging,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and she actually lost a lot of blood and had
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: to be sterilized after that so that it didn't happen again,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: but that was she got to have two babies first,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: so you know, I have a brother, and and then
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: after that there were no more. So all my other
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: brothers were not biological. They just were guys that lived
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: in neighborhood and spent all of their time at our
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: house because my parents were awesome. But so let's look
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: at what's causing these these because obviously, you know this
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: forced birth issue, there has to be some basis for it, right,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: even though we're talking tiny percentage of women that experienced
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: this and a tiny percentage of abortions that are a
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: result of this, Like femines have to be panicking over something, right.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: Of course, isn't that they're like natural state of being.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I happen.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: To have convened with the Sparris at the end of
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: the universe and they have assured me that's rat So
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: what would you have to say about.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: That, Hannah, I'm I'm floored, I mean mooved. So previously,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: my my my research into the pattern of maternal deaths
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: has been has indicated that most maternal deaths are due
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: to heart conditions and like cardio pulmonary or cardio vascular conditions.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: So either heart and lung conditions or heart and circulatory conditions,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: that a large number of them are related to obesity,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: and that's been consistent for decades. So previously, I've always
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: said the fat acceptance movement is more dangerous to women
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: than than pregnancy, because feminists treat pregnancy like this high
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: risk activity. But now last year, the number one cause
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: of pregnancy related death among women in the United States
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: was mental health conditions. And I looked at that. When
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I saw this, I'm like, what the fuck? Because mental
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: health conditions are not and they're not terminal. It's not
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: like cancer, it's not like any kind of you know,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: COVID killed you with pneumonia, and AIDS killed you by
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: destroying your immune system, and then you often that kills
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: you with the flu or pneumonia. You know, all these
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: there's all these illnesses that kill by shutting down your
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: bodily functions and causing it to die, or interfering with
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: your bodily functions and causing it to die, replacing healthy
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: tissue with unhealthy tissue that then interrupts your bodily function
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: and causes your body to die. Mental health doesn't do
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: that right. When people die from a mental health condition.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: It's usually by taking an action outside the medical condition
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: that causes that death, taking high risk actions if the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: symptoms of the mental health condition or high risk actions,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: you know, high risk behavior, or taking suicidal actions. If
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: the medical condition causes suicidal behavior, Well that's preventable. If
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: you know somebody is going through a mental health crisis,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: there is always the possibility to help. And if somebody
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: is going through a mental health crisis, the pregnancy isn't
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: the cause, and eliminating the pregnancy will not cure it.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: So this is incidental. It's not incidental as in it
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but it's incidental as then the pregnancy is
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: not the reason for this, even if they're upset about
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: the pregnancy and it exacerbates their condition. Meanwhile, there is
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: a condition that pro lifers have talked about for decades
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: called post abortion syndrome, which abortion advocates have denied for decades,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: while also admitting that a thing called postpartum depression and
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: postpartum psychosis exists and they can occur both after live
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: birth and spontaneous abortion. Well, if spontaneous abortion can cause
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: it due to changes in brain chemistry and any trauma
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: that might be associated with the loss of the pregnancy,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: so can abortion, so can medical abortion. Right, you can
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: suffer from postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis as a result
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: of the chemical changes in your body that take place
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: because you were pregnant and now you're not, and you're
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: not pregnant in the midst of the pregnancy, when your
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: body wasn't prepared for you to stop being pregnant in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: the moment, and then on top of that, for many women,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: this is a very weighty decision. It's not something that
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: they feel good about. It's something that they do because
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: they feel like they have to or they think they
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: have to, they think they don't have a better choice
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: available to them, and whether they regret it or not,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: it can be just making that decision can cause unresolved trauma.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: So the claim that posts that that posts abortion syndrome
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist is hereby debunked. And the claim that abortion
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: is a prevention of the top cause of pregnancy related
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: death also hereby debunked. Once you get below mental health conditions, hemorrhage,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: that's that's uh usually in conjunction with a miscarriage. It
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: can happen for other reasons. If you have a particularly
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: large baby, for instance, and you should have had a
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: sea section and you don't. Well, guess guess who the
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: biggest opponent of C sections has been. I take, I
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: take a wild guess. Think about whether it was politicians,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: medical doctors, uh, school teachers, men's rights activists, you know,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: maybe feminists. What do you guys think.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: It was?
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 8: Mid it was feminists? Feminists claim, Yeah, feminists claim that
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 8: male doctors subject women to unnecessary see sections far too frequently,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 8: and so CE sections have gone down and all of
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: a sudden hemorrhage is one of the is the second
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: leading cause of uh maternal death.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: G I'm shocked. I'm just totally shocked, guys. Third third
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: leading cause, the first uh physical cause that may not
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: be related at all to whether somebody needs a sea
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: section or not and doesn't get one. Yeah, mod wives.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Somebody says here a name I can't read because it's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: in letters that I don't don't use, but yeah, no,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: real real raven. By the way, the bikini industry does
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: not oppose CE sections. There is actually a crossways cut
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: that doesn't go up and down the belly that you
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: can get if you are concerned about And there's this
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: misinformation that's spread to a lot of women that if
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: you want to give natural childbirth later, that cut is better.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: It's it's six to one half dozen the other it's
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: not true that it's better. But in any case, yeah, no,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: midwives is the correct the other correct answer. And a
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: lot of midwives are feminists. A lot of people go
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: into becoming a midwife or a doula because of feminist reasons,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: and they treat the medical industry as a patriarchal, male run,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: male dominated, anti woman industry, and so therefore, you know,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: everything that they have decided as a standard must be
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: wrong and bad and anti woman and all that jazz. Well,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: except for the fact that you know, women are bleeding
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: to death now in childbirth or during miscarriages because they're
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: so reticent to do sea sections. So then we have
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: let's scroll down here a little bit cardiac and coronary conditions, cardiomyopathy,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: hypertensive disorders of pregnancy, which is high blood pressure that
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: didn't exist in the particular women prior to pregnancy, but
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: is existent during the pregnancy. And then we have cerebro
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: vascular accident, which is essentially a brain morrhage, metabolic or
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: indocrine conditions like diabetes. There's a particular event that is
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: called gestational diabetes where you become diabetic specifically when you're pregnant.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Pulmonary conditions, which is lung conditions. A lot of these
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: are related to like being asthmatic is dangerous during pregnancy.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: I was an asthmatic pregnancy, and I will say, you know,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: like if your abdomen is half taken up by another
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: living being, that it reduces your lung capacity quite a bit.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: So that's fair. But that's all stuff that can be
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: handled in an emergency room or in a hospital setting,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: giving birth in a hospital setting instead of giving birth
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: a home. But these other things, a lot of these
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: are disorders that are more likely to happen to a
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: woman if she has as a higher body fat level.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: They're more likely to happen to a woman if she's
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: already got you know, on a border of metabolic disorders,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Like you're not diabetic, but maybe you're pre pre diabetic,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: Like you're to the point where your body is heading
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: for diabetes and it's just a matter of time. You're
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a lot more likely to have these problems. So most
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: of the things that are causes of maternal death are
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: preventable or are not necessarily caused by the pregnancy. They're
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: just happening in conjunction with the pregnancy and mental health conditions. Usually.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: That one, though, really struck me, because like that many
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: women are committing suicide. Well, so I start scrolling down.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: I look, oh wait, mental health conditions right here? See
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: if I can, So where do we get? What do
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: we get with these mental health conditions? Mental health conditions
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: include deaths of suicide, overdose, slash, poisoning related to substance
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: use disorder, and other deaths determined by the MMRC to
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: be related to a mental health condition, including substance use disorder.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: So they mentioned substance use disorder twice. Are how many
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: of you guys are shocked beyond belief that one of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the leading causes of death, the top cause of maternal
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: death in the United States during an opioid crisis, might
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: be substance abuse.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: I can barely contain my shit. It's all over me.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I'm covered in my own shit, I tell.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: You, yeah, Like, what does this have to do with abortion?
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Do you do you cure somebody's opioid addiction by by
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: killing the baby? I mean, I would. I would really
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: be surprised.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: For one. And I'm golf clapping as hard as I
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: can that R F K is now in charge of
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: America's pharmaceutical industry, or at least he's able to point
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: as as many things as he can at at the
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: obvious perpetrators of of of all of this bullshit, because
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's not just what makes it's what's making
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: Americans fat. It's what's making Americans whole kinds of things,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: and not just Americans. It's trickling down and that all
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: the vassal states of America and making us not just fat,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: but well, all the things you're talking about now you
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the heart conditions. Heart disease is the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: leading cause of death in America, according to the CDC,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: and it has been for quite some time. Sat at
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: that spot for quite some time. Now. I'm going to
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: point something out here in a minute that's going to
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: shock the shit out of some people, but basically, cardiovascular
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: disease that is preventable by getting in better shape and
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: staying in better shape, kills more Americans than any other
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: medical cause after birth. Meredith g just gave us five
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: dollars and said, let's be honest, if you have a
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: bunch of women who need some totems to push their
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: abortion agenda, they will intentionally push bad practice so they
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: can create these totems. Think about the fact that feminists
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: wanted Plan B to be over the counter when it
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: was very high risk for women to use after the
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: ninth week of pregnancy, and even in that ninth week,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: which is why the FDA didn't approve it to be
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: over the counter.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: The same thing is going to happen four years from now, J.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: Devons is it is up for the presidency, they'll be
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: saying the same shit, like J. Devons wants to take
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: away our abortions. I know we said this about Trump
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: four years ago, but the point is is now jd
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: Vance it was taking away our right to abortion, and
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: unlike whoever the fuck the Democrat nominee is going to be,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: who's gonna be the Democrat? Need for.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: You know, the Democrats honestly, right now, they don't have
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: anybody respectable. No, I can't, off the top of my head,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: there is not.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: It's probably givin you.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably their most popular. They don't have somebody
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: that the people of the United States are going to
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: be looking at and going, gosh, you know, I really
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: believe in that person. They don't have somebody that has
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: a track record of success in their existing political office
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: that is popular in the United States and has been
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: popular in the United States. And even the few people
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: that the Democrats might tap to run that are popular
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: in the United States, one of them can't run for
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: president and is a Republican right now. And no, she
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: can run.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Who are you talking about.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Schwartz nigger he used to be. He
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: was popular for a while. Oh yeah, No, he can't run.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: He's not a citizen by birth. He can be governor.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: He was the governator of California for a while. But
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: he's and I would say the Democrats might like him
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: simply because he sort of took their side a lot
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: when it came to the COVID crisis. He's an authoritarian,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: so he's kind of an establishment politician now, but like
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: he'd be somebody that if he switched parties and he
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: could run, the Democrats might unite behind him. Now the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Republicans wouldn't because they're all pissed at him, all right,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: except except the establishment ones right, the uniparty would definitely
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: like him, but he can't run for president. And the
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: other one is Tulsa Gabbard and she's not a Democrat either,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: She's a libertarian and I don't think she would give
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: them a time of day. So honestly, I don't think
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: they have a no ball's chance in hell unless something
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: dramatically changes in the next four years that would make
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: people trust the Democrats again and distrust the anti establishment
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: wing of the Republican Party, don't I don't see. I
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: don't see the Democrats coming back from this for at
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: least eight years. And if the changes get made, has
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: she just become a Republican? Well, that's good, it's interesting.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe that'll join that team. I would like to see
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: the Republicans become more libertarian.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: You've got jend devonce for eighteen eight.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, JD Vans for or Ramaswami would be another one.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: I still really like him, all.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Kinds of all kinds of good. Not a chance of
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: any good. YEA.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: By the way, the sorts nigger quote was not fuck
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: your freedoms, it was screw your freedoms. He didn't have
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: the balls to say fuck that. That that may kind of.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: Oh he could.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Pronounce it because he said it, he said it in
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: other times. But yeah, there are people who want to
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: run Gretchen Whitmer. I hope. I would love for Gretchen
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Whitmer to run.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Please let me do my best do it.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Because she has a vulnerability. The the establishment tried to
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: use her administration to frame a bunch of guys of
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: a kidnapping plot, and we could talk about that the
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: whole time she was running for office. I would love
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: to see her run. We can eviscerate her, maybe great,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: but but in any case, so, yeah, so we look
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: at this maternal death thing like that, that's that's a
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: no go again, not that there are no maternal deaths,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: but clearly there's not an epidemic of maternal deaths. And
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: further there's there's even more not an epicate epidemic of
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: inevitable maternal deaths. So there's there's not really there's not
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: really anything here for for feminists to go on. So no,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: that's not where I wanted to go. But this this number,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: all right, in twenty twenty three, a provisional total of
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: three million, ninety five hundred and eighty two deaths occurred
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: in the United States according to the CDC, according to
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: the Macker Institute, a provisional number, because they're not one
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: hundred percent certain, so give or take a small amount,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: that's that's deaths overall. All right, one million, thirty seven
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: thousand abortions occurred in the formal health care system in
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the United States in twenty twenty three. Right, so, one
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: in four deaths in the United States in twenty twenty
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: three had being aborted as its cause. Being aborted was
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: the cause of death. Now, let me point out where
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: is it The CDC has a statistic on.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: There.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: It is the CDC calls heart disease the leading cause
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: of death in the US, based on six hundred and
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: eighty nine hundred and nine deaths. All right, Just wanting
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: to point out that that's a pretty big difference there,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: A million, thirty seven thousand abortions versus six hundred and
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: eighty thousand, nine hundred and nine heart related deaths, which
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: again the fat acceptance movement is exacerbating totally. We're talking
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: just this this huge discrepancy by far by a third. Again,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: as much being aborted was the leading cause of death
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: in the United States in twenty twenty three. I didn't
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: go back and look at the time period during the
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: COVID crisis, but abortion has been at about half a
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: million or more annually in the United States for more
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: than a decade. It's fluctuated, but it's pretty close to
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: the leading cause of death, and it's definitely in the
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: top five causes of death the whole time. If you
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: consider the life of the unborn child, being aborted is
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: one of the top causes of death in the United
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: States for at least ten years, if not longer.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's if you include those people as people, and
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: I don't, and as such, I don't include black people
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: as black people. For all the people that died in
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: the city gang bang shootings as deaths, then I mean
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: nineteen year old black people being killed by other black
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: people in gang bang shootings. Then that doesn't count. So yeah,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: I guess it is abouting. Oh shit, never mind.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Actually criminal violence. Then I says, we get I'm gonna
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: have to debunk that one too, because statistically, you have
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: a better chance of uh, you have a much better
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: chance of having been aboarded than you do of of
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: being a victim of violent crime. Oddly enough, I've I
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: personally don't fit that statistic very well because I was
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: not aboarded, and I've been a victim of multiple violent crimes,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: so like they like me.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, well you say that, but it's true,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: so fuck you.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: At least a victim of fatal violent crime. Ian to
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: this day, I have not been a victim of fatal
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: violent crime potentially fatal at the time, but not actually
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: fatal as as an outcome, thank goodness, because that would suck.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: But let's talk about well, you know, they use the
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: term forced pregnancy to describe the situation.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: So you know, we have to.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Tolerate these million abortions because what else are women going
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: to do. They have to have abortions. They have to
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: be able to be free to have an abortion because
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: they might get denied the right to an abortion when
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: their their health is in danger and their lives are
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: in danger and so on, and there's just no way
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: to avoid getting pregnant. They just don't there's nothing these women.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: Can do it.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 6: Just what have I been doing for the past forty
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: six years, not getting pregnant?
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, And that's not real. You don't count,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: You don't represent any women because you don't fit the narrative.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: So now we're going to start looking at the statistics
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: on contraception use. And the first thing I'm gonna throw
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: up in people's faces because we always hear about how
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: necessary abortion is because contraception fails, and it's not the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: failure of the user, it's the failure of the contraception.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Except I looked into that. Now that we've debunked rarity,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: now that we've debunked medical necessity for the most part,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: you know that most abortions are elective. Now that we've
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: debunked the epidemic of unavoidable, life threatening issues with pregnancy,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: we're just about to debunk the idea that despite being
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: completely careful, these women end up in this situation and
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: it's forced pregnancy and forced birth. Contraception actually works at
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Guttmucher Institute. Again here, this is uh yept Maker. That's
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: that's their name. It's the last name.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: Here.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Let me see if I have the top of the
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: page here somewhere I might not I don't, all right,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: but this is duplicate this tab. There we go duplicate
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: this tab and we'll go to the top of the
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: page so you can see. But while that's loading up.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: We'll look at the statistic modern countrysception works. It says
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: the two thirds of US women at risk of unintended
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: unintended pregnancy who practiced contraception consistently and correctly account for
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: only five percent of unintended pregnancies. So women who use
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: contraception consistently and correctly aren't the ones getting pregnant when
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: they don't want to be pregnant. And before anybody's like, oh,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: you're sleds shaving other women, no, I'm in that number.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted to not be pregnant for about another four years.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: When I conceived my son with my husband. I wanted
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: him to be about four years younger than he is
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: and have some things ready and done before we before
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: we made him, so that we would be able to
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: give him the best start. And I fucked that up
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: like that wasn't anybody else's fault but mine. I'm the
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: one with uterus. I didn't do everything I needed to
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: do properly and carefully to make sure that the outcome
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I wanted was what happened, and it cost us a lot,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: and it resulted in a lot of hardship for the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: whole family and you know, I've had to contend with that,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons that I'm so adamant
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: about this because I don't want other families to have
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: that experience. I don't want other kids to be in
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: that situation, and I don't want other women to have
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: that regret in their lives, Like there are things that
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: we could have done for all three of our children
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: that we didn't get to do because I fucked that up.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: So either you're smart enough to learn that lesson, and
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: you're smart enough to realize that, hey, that was stupid
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: and it shouldn't happen again, and you shouldn't encourage other
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: women to fuck up the start of their children's lives
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: that way either or you make excuses, which is what
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: feminists have been doing, oh.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: And so you look at the statistic here, what are
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: we seeing here? Unintended pregnancies three point one million, five
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: percent of them happen with consistent use. Forty one percent
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: happened with inconsistent use, which was my issue. My use
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: was inconsistent and incorrect. I made mistakes that were things
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: that you should not be unaware of. I was unaware
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: of things that you should not be unaware of. When
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: you take a medication, you ask questions of your pharmacists,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: you learn about side effects, you learn about contraindications, you
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: learn about uh you know. Well, the most obvious was
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: when you take a pill that's supposed to be in
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: your system all the time. You want the medication to
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: be at a consistent level in your system. You don't
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: take it at seven o'clock in the morning one day
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: and seven o'clock in the evening the next. You take
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: it the same time of day every day. So there
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: were a bunch of things that I fucked up there,
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: And the biggest one was if you're really trying to
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: prevent pregnancy, you don't rely on just one form of
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: birth control. You use at least two.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: So Hi raven I was an unwanted pregnancy too.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Many of us wanted. He wasn't unplanned, He wasn't even unplanned.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: I knew when I was six years old that I
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a mommy and I wanted his son.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: What what happened with me was that I failed at
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: ensuring that I created the conditions that I wanted to
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: bring him into. First. What was unwanted was the circumstances and.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying me too. I was I was
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: an unplanned pregnancy, too many of us were. It's amazing
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: how many awesome people came into the world, oh accidental.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: And we had that discussion because I want I didn't
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: want him to think that he was unwanted. I don't
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: want any kid to think that, you know. Besides, he
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: was born years and years and years after rov Wade,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: and he was born to a mom who could have
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: gone out and eliminated him before he was born. Every
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: child born into the world after rov Wade can take
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: solace in the fact that they were at least wanted
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: enough that their mother did not kill them before they
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: were born, at least in the United States. So, yeah,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: forty one percent of unintended pregnancies happened because people fuck
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: up their birth control. And then then fifty four percent,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: so more than half of unwanted pregnancies. Unintended pregnancies occur
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: because no birth control was being used at all. So
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: when we hear like the whole forced pregnancy thing, uh,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: there's a bit of an issue with the claim that
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: the cause is not the woman's fault, and it's it's
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: imposed on her against her will and it's uh, it's
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: it's it's something that the patriarchy has imposed. It's oppression.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: She's pregnant through no fault of her.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 9: Bullsh knock up, fairy gutter, complete bullshit, you know, it's
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 9: complete and utter bullshit. It's just we allow these women
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: to get away with this ship because you can't.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 6: You can't believe the woman. Oh my god, she's just
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: she's just an innocent victim in all of this shit.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 6: It's nothing. She didn't do anything. She was just oh boop,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm pregnant. That's not how the fucking works,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, an unintended pregnancy is still
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 6: the fault of the woman. I'm sorry. There's there's no
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: other way to put that. Okay, there's no other way
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 6: to say it, but we can't do The women are
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 6: beyond reproach when it comes to holding them accountable for anything.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's insane. I've had arguments with women on
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: X that have argued as if expecting a woman to
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: take the control that women have demanded that they're given
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 1: of their own bodies and use it to prevent pregnancy
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: instead of having an abortion, that it's misogynistic to expect
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: women to exercise that control. I've actually had it argued
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: to me that women should be completely exempt from criticism
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: for any and all behavior that leads to conception of
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: a child and then choosing to have an abortion, despite
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: the fact that they have all these different methods of
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: birth control available. Like a lot of this information that
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: came out, there was less birth control available at that
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: time than there is today. But this, this is more recent.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: So this, this and the pill is the one that
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: is the most relied upon, right and it's the one
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: that's the most poorly used. But in this, let's see
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: the Okay, that's the one that I opened, I think,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: so you can see where this comes from. Gott Mocker Institute.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: Right there, you can see contraceptive use in the United States.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: This is the numbers that they're looking at here. Sixty
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: one million women at the time in their child bearing
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: years age fifteen to forty four, which that's a conservative
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: estimate women's child bearing years. I was capable of getting
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: pregnant at the age of fourteen, and I was a
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: late bloomer. I have known people who got pregnant younger
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: than that. And one of the instances that is used
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: by feminists in the argument for unrestricted abortion was a
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: ten year old rape victim in Ohio that was pregnant,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: that became pregnant as a result of the rape, and
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: they stopped talking about it when they discovered that she
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: was an undocumented immigrant and the rapist was another undocumented immigrant.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: The situation was essentially manufactured by bad policy. They couldn't
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: find a kid in the United States that was a
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: resident from birth living with parents that were residents from birth.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: They couldn't find a functional situation that people couldn't say, well,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: you know, if you don't allow these things to happen,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: that won't happen, so they shut up about it. But
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: it is possible. I had classmates that had to go
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: on medication in elementary school because they started puberty early
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: and they wanted to delay it for a couple of
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: years so that they could finish being little little girls
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: before they had to be women. It's uncomfortable to be
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: wearing a bra in the second grade, and so most women.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: Most girls are capable of conception by the time they're fifteen,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: and most women are capable of conception through the age
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: of forty four. I'm still currently capable of conception if
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, which would be a really dumb idea
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: right now, and I'm not going to do it, but
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: it could happen if I let it. So this is
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: basically seventy percent of women are at risk of unintended
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: pregnancy if they don't take active measures to prevent it.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: And that is, like I said, we're looking at gut
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: Mocker Institute. They're fairly well known, and that was published
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: in October twenty fifteen, so this is about ten years old.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things that I don't remember
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: if the female condom was available in twenty fifteen or not,
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 1: but there's a couple of things that are more commonly
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: available now, like post conception prevention of implantation. Methods that
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: prevent implantation are more available now than they were. So
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: what women are relying on specifically may have changed. But
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: at the time that this was published, let's see, we
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: already looked at that. So let's look at some five
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: point seven million women out of that number realize solely
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: on the male condoms, so they're not using any birth
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: control of their own. They're just expecting the guy to
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: use birth control. Now, frankly, for guys, it's that's all
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: you got right now. That's going to change. But if
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: you want to not get any of the preventable sexually
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: transmitted infections that are blood borne that can be prevented
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: by barrier methods, the only thing that you have that
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: works for that is it condom. Nothing she can use
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: will protect you, except maybe the female condom. And to
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: be blunt, they still suck. They're not They're not great.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: They're still better than you know being stupid. But Richard
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: berre imagines me with nineteen kids. If I had nineteen kids,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: I would be running my own homeschooling business.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: You can bet she'd be the little old lady that
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 6: lived in a shoe.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would so many kids.
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't know what to do.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: As long as we had the finances to support them,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have died that I always wanted to have kids.
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: This is one of the many reasons I don't want kids,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: because because we would have to homeschool them. And it's
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's helpful that I never wanted to have
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: kids in the first place. But if we did have kids,
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 2: we would have no choice but to homeschool them. Because
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: God knows, I wouldn't send my children anywhay near a
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: public school, we would have no choice. But still that
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: I couldn't handle that.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: So the other thing is male condom use has been
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: significantly increased. It was only like about half the time
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two and by twenty six to twenty
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: ten ninety three percent. Dual method meaning using more than
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: one method of birth control, which is what everybody should
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: be doing right because women who are sexually active should
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: be declining to consent unless the guy wears a condom,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: and then they should also be using something of their own,
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: whether it's birth control pills, gel film, the sponge. It
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter something that if a few stray semen get through,
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: little little little swimmers get through the condom fu sperm,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: that that it'll kill it or stop it like that,
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: that's the smart thing to do. In fact, women have
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: the capability if they want to of using two. You
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: could be on the pill and still use a sponge
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: and they don't interfere with each other or mess anything up.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: Or Contraceptive film is another one, contraceptive foam. They have
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: spermicidal lubrication. Some women use an I U D with
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: with hormonal birth control in it, and i U D
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: is in my opinion, and abortifationient not just a birth control.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: But I mean, there's lots of different ways to like
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: if this, if the sperm escape the condom, prevent them
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: from getting anywhere, doing anything, surviving the journey, et cetera.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: But the this is, this is an interesting one. The
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: proportion of all sexually experienced women who have ever used
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: withdrawal has increased from twenty percent twenty five percent nineteen
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: eighty two to sixty percent in two thousand and six
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: to twenty ten. That's the pull out method. There are
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: problems with that. If it's the sole method that you're using,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't remend it.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 9: Yet Yet it's still on Planned Parentshood's website. It's still
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 9: listed as a former bird control. Yeah, which is it's
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 9: just ridiculous.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: Resuces the chance of freiancy significantly because oxygen is not
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: good for sperm, but it doesn't eliminate it. But uh,
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: and that's the thing. You want elimination if you don't,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: if you don't want to go through the experience of
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: having to decide what you're going to do about being
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: pregnant when you're not ready. You don't want just a
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: reduction in chance. You want to eliminate, statistically, eliminate the
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: chance of being pregnant altogether, right, if you're a smart
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: woman anyway.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we already know that they're.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: These women out here today. You can hardly accuse them
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 9: of being too intelligence, especially especially if you're going to
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 9: base it off the choices that they make, because it's
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 9: just the mathy math.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: And I have to wonder if the rise of autism
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: is anything relating to the result of so many parents
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: put their children in front of screens to just watch
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: for pepper peg or or whatever, and they just and
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: they just leave the screens to educate their children, and
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: then they wonder why they become autistic. Yeah, and I'm
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: not having I'm not having to go. But you know,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: maybe that's the easiest way to raise children these days.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: But maybe maybe it's nothing to do with vaccines. And
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about those gene therapy injections on vaccines.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: Know, well, the connection, the MMR connection, MMR vaccine connection
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: that was alleged by god I can't think of his
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: name now, Wakefield. Yeah, by Wakefield that was debunked. That's
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: been debunked for decades. Yes, But but on one thing
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: that you have a really serious point on is not
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: just in preventing the manifest of autism, because autism, they're
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: genetic markers for autism. So the predisposition to develop autism
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: is genetic. And then there are environmental factors that can
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: take place during the pregnancy that can increase the risk
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: that you're going to develop autism. But I mean, the
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: same thing is true with some other neuro atypical conditions,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: So autism isn't alone in that. But engagement, like social
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: engagement during early childhood makes a big difference in the
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: development of autism in a child, and that the child
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: might have a predisposition but might not develop the condition,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: or if the child does develop the condition, like with me,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: it's so masked you wait until you're fifty two years
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: old to get diagnosed, which is what happened with me. Like,
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: my parents were school teachers, so there was quite a
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: bit of social engagement there, and then my grandfather also
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: had a very specific philosophy about social engagement, the importance
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: of social engagement, and my grandparents worked with infants with
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: intellectual and physical disabilities on a severe and profound level.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: And so they actually had a great deal of experience
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: in helping children to reach children who were going to die.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: By the time they were like two years old, five
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: years old, ten years old, still reached their full potential
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: in life, even if their potential was tiny.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: And having autistic parents isn't necessarily a predictor of having
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: autistic children.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: No, that's not what I'm talking about.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: It's a bit like if your parents are smokes, you're
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 2: less likely to be a smoker these things. So to
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: skip generations, well.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm actually I can go back and both of my parents.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know which one the gene came from, but
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: there are traits that both of them had that could
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: be could have been diagnosable, So it's distinctly possible. But
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a nerd, I was raised by nerds
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: who were raised by nerds. My family history is peppered
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: with engineers. It's not shocking to have autism as an outcome.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: So so I'm not going to say that it's any
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: of that is necessarily predictable factors. But what my grandfather
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: figured out was not permitting a child to disengage entirely.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: Demonstrating to the child that there is comfort and emotional
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: intimacy and security and camaraderie and engagement with the people
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: around around him or her is very important in the
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: prevention of like the worst outcomes in a kid that
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: might be autistic. So when I was little, when I
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: was a baby, actually, like if you picked me up,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: I threw a temper tantrum. I had meltdowns over being
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: it's subjected to any human engagement of any kind at all.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. And my Grandpa sat down with
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: me and just sang to me until I figured out
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: that I liked being sung to. And he was my
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: favorite person his whole life after that, the very very
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: sweet and very very kind and loving man when it
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: came to little kids. He had some demons that he
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: had to deal with in his life that made him
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: difficult for other adults to handle, and it was it
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: was difficult to watch that as I transitioned from childhood
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: to adolescence to adulthood and became more aware of it,
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: But I never ever changed that. Like Grandpa was always
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: my favorite person in the whole world. And so that was,
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those things every daddy's girl, grandpa's girl,
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: and my dad when he realized the benefit that I
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: was getting from music, he kind of made music an
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: everyday thing for me. And I think that's a huge
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: portion of why I personally was able to mask so
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: well that I didn't get a diagnosis till I was
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: fifty two years old.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: That was at.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: You know, my dad, my mom, my grandpa, my grandma.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: They put a lot of effort into drawing me into
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: social engagement with at least the family. I wouldn't be
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: able to do any of the things that I do
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: now publicly without that vital that kids have. That so
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: the whole you know, plopping a kid down in front
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: of a screen and ignoring them like Mike isn't in
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: any way off base with that. You really can't just
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: raise your kids in front of the TV. Yeah, man,
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: it's not the same, by the way, plopping your kids
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: in front of the TV and walking away as it is.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: Like you guys enjoy a show together. I used to
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: watch Mash with my dad, WKRP and Cincinnati Hogan's Heroes
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and you know, we laugh together
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: at the humor, talk about stuff. If something made me cry.
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I got hugged like there was none of that.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: You're just sitting in front of the TV watching TV.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: And there was a limit to how much TV time
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: I had. And my brother was the same way, although
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: he kind of limited that by wanting to be outside
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: all the time. And you just couldn't take the kind
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: of TV we had. It's like the size of a
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: deep freezer, you know. Our old TVs like take up
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, half the space and the living They were
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: like half the size of your couch and the speakers
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: were built in and you had to actually walk up
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: to it to change the channels and shit because I'm old,
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: but but yeah, it's vital that parents engage interact consistently
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: with their kids, you know. And I took that into
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: my child rearing too. If the kids had a question
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: about something and I didn't know the answer, it wasn't like,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: well I don't know, Well let's find out, let's see
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: what we can what we can look up. And it
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: was nice when you know, the internet became a viable
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 1: tool for that. But we we spent a lot of
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: time at the library. So yeah, it's it's it's important.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: Did I hear somebody starting to speak in the background.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did turn my thing on. I'm waiting for
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: you speaking.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speak up, No, yeah, I I.
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: I visited my little nephews in Scotland recently. That's why
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: I was not here for for a couple of weeks.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: My little nephew Sam, I I I bought him a
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: foot keyboard that was designed especially for kids to stamp
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: on and make music. And I think he's finally getting it.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: But my sister, Since Sam had twin boys after that
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: as well, and since only interacted with them as babies,
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: and I only spent a few seconds with them up
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: in Scotland recently, and as soon as I came in,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: one of them started crying, and I was I was
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: warned of this that whenever they encounter people they don't know,
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: particularly men, they don't know enough. That's an important distinction
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: of what But when they encounter men they don't know,
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: they start crying. And sure enough, when I came into
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: the room, one of them started crying and I was like,
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: all right, okay, should we go? Yeah we are. Then
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: we went like because I came up because I wanted
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: to help. I wanted I wanted to help, not just
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: wanted to help my parents build their new house because
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: they recently moved up there to be with their grandchildren.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: I also wanted to help sort of look after my
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 2: nephews and such. But I came to the conclusion that
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: if if as soon as I come into the room,
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: they start crying because they're they're they're seeing a man
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: they don't know, I'm like, I can't. Maybe I should
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: wait a couple of years before they grow out of
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: because because they're at that point where if they see
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: a man they don't know, it just distresses them. And
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I just want to help, and if
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: if my presence does nothing but make them cry, then
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: that's not helping. That's doing the exact opposite of helping.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm here sort of thinking, well, all right, I'm
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: going to wait a few years until they grow out
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: of this stage, because eventually they will grow out of
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: this stage and then they'll then they'll then they'll they'll
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: become people who can recognize their cool uncle, not just
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: someone who makes them cry because I'm weird, but someone
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: who can help them get into drugs and stuff, and
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: they'll do that eventually. One of these days they'll be old.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: They'll be old enough, but I can be like cool
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 2: Uncle Mike who gets them into drinking and smoking and stuff.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: And that's going to take fifteen years or so. So
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, all right, I'm just going to
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: avoid them for fifteen years or so.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 1: All the thing is to get them into music.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: That's yeah. I've tried. I've tried my best to do
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: that with Sam, because he was he was the first.
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: It was the opening one, and and I did that
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 2: by by buying him gifts that might encourage his musicality,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: and apparently that worked. But but yeah, then they had
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: twins on top of Sam. Danny and Nick are their names,
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: and and now it's got a whole bunch more complicated,
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: which is good because now now I've got three nephews.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: Now now I've got this big ass family that's going
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: to grow into a bunch of strapping boys.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: Are they identical twins?
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: They are, well, yes, pretty much.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: See. Now the fun in that is teaching them to
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: play tricks on people, because there's a there are a
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: whole range of tricks that identical twins can play on
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: people that nobody else can do.
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 2: So they're gonna pull those tricks on me. That's the problem. Yeah,
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: they have they have they have birthmarks. I need to
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: figure out how the fuck those birthmarks work.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: You just got to teach them to be nice about it,
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: be ethical about it, like do things that are fun
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: and funny that people laugh at later, but not anything
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: that that you know is going to put anybody in danger,
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: take away anybody's rights, or anything like that.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Richard beerre asks, when my coworkers insist on speaking,
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: we're in word salad. How can I be sure about
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: being autistic? So I'm gonna recommend that you look up
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: and read an article I wrote at the onset of
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: the gamer Gate controversy on on Twitter. It's titled journalism
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: as a Social Justice War Game, which I I that
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 1: was my first I think it's my first article on
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: the Honey Badger Brigade blog. But and that should be searchable.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: But in that I describe the kind of person I
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: am socially, and that might give you a clue as
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: to why my parents suspected it when I was four.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: But when I was four, they were looking for a
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: much more dramatic symptom set and I didn't have that.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: So I got the doctor just was like, Oh, yeah,
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: she'll just catch up with her peers later. She's just
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: behind socially, and she's developing intellectually first, and then she'll
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: develop socially, which was commonly believed to be a regular
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 1: thing that happens with girls, But actually that's a symptom
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: of autism. So that's basically where my suspicions started there.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, when you hear me tell the stories
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: about my coworkers and everything, you got to remember I'm
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: the person telling the story, So what you're getting is
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: my perception of the events. So it's distinctly possible that
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm describing is a wrong interpretation based on being autistic.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: Richard Berrer also gave us five dollars an ass. Have
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: you noticed how Harris sounds so much like that TikTok creator,
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: Missus Frazzle, who was offering those gentle parenting tips on
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: how to communicate with adult family members. Imagine other world
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: leaders being negotiated with in such a condescending manner. So
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not really familiar with the TikTok creator, but what
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: I have noticed is that she sounds like a kindergarten
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: teacher talking to a room full of kindergarteners when she's
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 1: talking to adults like that bothers me.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: But we don't have to worry about that any more.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think we should ever sit I really don't
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: think we should ever have to hear from her again,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: because she really should drop out of politics after this,
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: at least, you know, if she cares at all about
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: having any even even the smallest modicum of dignity left,
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 1: because right now, if she has any left, going into
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: another political battle is going to destroy that really fast.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, she raised a billion dollars in her campaign
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: trail and there's no way any of that went into
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: anything other than her own coffers, So fuck off, Kamal.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I certainly wonder because like, obviously they have to
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 1: attribute or account for that money in in UH taxes
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: and so on. Like, there's a couple of ways they
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: have to be able to account for that money so
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: we can find out if she misused it. But there's
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: there's some leeway there, so it's it's quite possible that
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: you're correct in that. But anyway, but back to the
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: subject matter here, So what we're looking at is we've
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: debunked the idea that women are getting pregnant through no
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: fault of their own. So we start out, we debunked
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: the idea that women were denied therapeutic abortion under prero
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: Vwade law. We've debunked the idea that there's an epidemic
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: of need for therapeutic abortion. We've debunked the idea that
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: most abortion is therapeutic abortion. And we have debunked the
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: idea that most abortion that happens happens because birth control failed. Right,
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: most abortion that happens happens because women didn't use any
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: birth control at all. So that's quite a bit there.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: And we will say here about half of us this
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: is twenty eighteen January eleven, twenty eighteen, by half of
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: US abortion patients report using report using contraception in the
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: months that they became pregnant, which means about half reported
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: that they didn't use contraception in the month that they
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: became pregnant. And from what we saw before, those reporting
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: that they did use contraception weren't using it consistently or correctly.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: Then we have this one reported contraceptive use among US
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: abortion patients in twenty twenty fourteen, and same thing the results,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: slightly more than half reported that they had used a
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: contraceptive method in the month they became pregnant, So this
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: is concent That was twenty eighteen. This is twenty fourteen
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: and two thousand, So for twenty years, twenty plus years,
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: there's been a consistent pattern. About half of abortion pregnant pregnancies,
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: aborted pregnancies are done on women who didn't use birth control.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: About half the time, these women who are claiming that
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 1: abortion is necessary because they're forced to be pregnant if
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: abortion isn't available, are actually getting pregnant because they chose
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: to allow pregnancy to happen. Like if you don't use
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: any birth control and you get pregnant, it's no different
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: than trying to get pregnant, because the only thing that
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: people do when they're trying to get pregnant is have
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: sex without birth control. They might try to time it,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: they might put effort into timing it during ovulation. That's
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: the only difference. So we can close those because that's
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: really all I wanted to point out on those. These links,
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 1: by the way, are all in the low bar, so
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: you can read the whole article for any of these.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: This one is two thousand and eight, twenty twelve, twenty
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: fourteen National Survey of Family Growth Again contraceptive method use
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 1: in the United States, trends and characteristics during that time.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: All right, so women who were using birth control, let's
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: see six percent we're using a long term, long acting,
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: reversible contraceptive. So like iud on an implant. So there's
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: there's a thing called norplant. I don't remember what it
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 1: was called before it was norplant, but it's like birth
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: can roll pill medication. It's implanted under the skin, and
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: it's slow release and it lasts for I think three years.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: That gets used by a lot. So between six and
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: fourteen percent using that. Sterilization dropped among women during that time. Right,
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: but a lot of different types of contraception are used
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: by women, and a lot are available. Only half women
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: during that time using any form at all. The sixty
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: percent of those at risk of unintended pregnancy, that's not
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: going to show for me for some reason. Let's try
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: there we go, all right, so we go back to
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: go back to two thousand and two thousand and one. Here, uh,
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: forty six percent of women had not used a contraceptive
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: method in the month they had conceived, so it's consistent,
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: very consistent. Those that did relied more heavily on the
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: male condom. In other words, the ones of the ones
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: that claimed that they were using birth control, the majority
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: of them were citing the guy's use of birth control
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: as their birth control, and then you know, you go
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: on down from there, the pill, the different other different
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: available types of birth control. Of condom users cited condom
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: breakage or slippage as a reason for pregnancy. So just
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: just pointing that out, so women should know better than
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: to just rely on a condom. And then we get
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: into methods here which we can go through. And in
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, this is the most recent i think information
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: about one in five contraceptive users age fifteen to forty
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 1: nine relied on methods used at the time of intercourse,
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: such as condoms withdrawal, emergency contraception, and natural family planning
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 1: methods meaning the rhythm which there's an old joke about
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: the rhythm method, and what do you call people that
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: use the rhythm method, And of course the answer is parents.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, quite a bit of consistent birth control use.
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: Permanent female method meaning tubes tied is one of the
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: highest ones. The pill one of the highest ones. The
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: third place male birth control. So an awful lot of
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: women rely on, like we're looking here, male condom. Six million,
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty and forty two women relied on
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: their partner to use a condom for their only form
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: of birth control. So what does that say to us.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: If you are sexually active with women, if you're dating,
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: you're not married and you don't want to conceive a child,
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: or if you're in a marriage and you don't want
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: to become parents, is your wife relying on you as
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: the sole responsible party for birth control? Or is she
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: on the pill, maybe using you know, birth control film
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: or a sponge or something along those lines.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: Is she.
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: Relying on condom use but still making you pull out,
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: you know these kinds of things. If that's the case,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: then there's a thing that is coming up next year,
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: not next year, but the year after. Like I'm already
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 1: thinking of twenty twenty five, because it's almost twenty twenty
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: five now. But let's see where is the page here?
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, here we go.
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm looking for. So we've been talking
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: about this for years. Vassalgel male contraceptive. The initial research around.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: This was called the Parsmus Foundation. This has been available,
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: by the way, in India for years under the name
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: Rice Hug, but in the United States it has not
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: been available. Well that's going to change. So this this
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: company that is partnering with the Parsmus Foundation to create
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 1: the drug and mark look at it. They are expecting
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: it's going to be called Planet, but they're expecting to
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: launch the product in twenty twenty six. Right, So you're
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: looking at an environment right now today in which about
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: half of abortions are done on women who didn't use
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 1: birth control. Among the women who did use birth control,
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of them are women who claim they
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: use birth control, but really they were just citing the
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: guys your use of birth control as their use of
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: birth control, and they got pregnant because something went wrong
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: with the condom. Guys, you cannot trust her if you
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: don't want to be a father, you cannot trust her
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: to cooperate. Even if she doesn't engage in deliberate birth
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: control sabotage where she tricks you into fatherhood on purpose.
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: Even if she's not engaging in sperm jacking, she can
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: want to not be a mom. She can be the
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: woman who's going to have an abortion if she gets pregnant,
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: and she still will take no active measure, she will
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: rely solely on you to be responsible for preventing the pregnancy.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: When this stuff comes out, I hope every guy who
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: wants to control the timing of the start of his
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 1: children's lives or who just doesn't want to be a
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: father invests in it, and I mean in the use
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: of it. Because this stuff works for ten years. It
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: is easily reversible, it is safe, it has basically been
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: tested in India. By the fact that it's been on
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: the market all that time, you cannot rely on women
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: to take responsibility for their reproductive choices. It's an unfortunate fact.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 1: And because of that, your best bet, your smartest choice,
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: is to just not leave it up to her. Don't
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: give her the choice, don't give her the choice to
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: be careless with your sperm. Don't give it to her
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: at all. Kill it on the way out until you're
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: ready to be a dad. If you're going to engage
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: in and sexual practices with women, you have no excuse
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: to not do this. That's that's my take on it,
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: you know, And yeah, I mean goatka points out, the
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 1: smartest choice is you just get a doll and cut
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: women out of the situation altogether. I would say, and
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say this to both sexes right your
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 1: body count is very important. It matters quite a bit.
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: There are other things that we can talk about with
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 1: regard to sexual activity and brain chemistry and what it
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: does to you when you make an intimate connection with
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: somebody and they they then leave at some point, or
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: you lose the ability to trust them or desire to
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 1: remain intimate with them and you leave. There there are
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: things that happen with you that are actually unhealthy and damaging.
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 1: Sleeping around isn't a smart choice for either sex and
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: right now, under the current legal circumstances, getting married doesn't
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: have any legal benefits for men. There's no protection offered
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: to you by being married, and so there's not like,
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna be in relationships with women, it's not
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: advisable to begin with. But if you're gonna do it anyway,
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 1: it's not advisable necessarily to make family with them. Even
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: if you're going to do that, you can't trust that
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: being married is going to make that permanent. So when
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 1: you consider dating if you're gonna consider dating and you
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: consider marriage, you know and all that its best. Your
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 1: best bet personally is to not have a bunch of
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: broken connections behind you, and to not trust a woman
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: that has broken connections behind her, And ladies, it's fair
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 1: for a guy to consider your body count a reason
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 1: why he doesn't want you raising his children. If you
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: can't be relied on to commit and stay committed in
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: a relationship and to protect your fertility against the possibility
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: of bringing a child into less than the best circumstances
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: that you can provide, then why would he trust you
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 1: to be the best that you can be at taking
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: care of the child when he's sick, taking care of
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: the child when his behavior is not ideal, taking care
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: of the child maybe if the child is born with
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: a disability, teaching the child morality and ethics, and helping
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: the child develop as he grows. If you're not grown
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 1: up enough to do that, why would a guy trust you?
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think that I would. If
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 1: I was a guy, and honestly like the girl I
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 1: was when I graduated high school and was dating, I
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 1: wouldn't trust that girl. And I think I was better,
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: better suited than a lot of gals I knew, like
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: not a lot of gals that I grew up with,
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 1: because I grew up in a community where family values
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: was pretty high and it was unusual. It was kind
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 1: of shameful to sleep around and stuff like that, right,
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: but I was still an immature little brat at eighteen
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 1: years old by by my today's standards, like why would
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: guys trust you if you can't be better than that?
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 1: So and and if you're under twenty five years old,
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be thinking about getting married right now,
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be thinking about it if I was
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 1: a guy at all. But you know, at least wait
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 1: till your brain has stopped developing it's completely fully reached adulthood,
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 1: and hers too, because you really can't trust somebody that's
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 1: going to change that much.
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, for the for the longest part of history,
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 2: your brain was already developed enough to be married by
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 2: the age of fifteen. And that's not I'm not saying
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 2: that's how it should be nowadays, but it was how
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 2: it was in the old days. I'm just pointing out
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 2: that people's childhoods has been extended long into their late
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 2: twenties to a degree, to a degree that's not necessarily natural.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 2: If you are someone who fell in love with their
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 2: childhood sweetheart at the age of fifteen and then you
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 2: developed a perfectly functional relationship to the point that you
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 2: could start raising children by the age of twenty, then
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 2: God bless you. You're a rarity nowadays. But if you
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 2: are that, if you are that thing, then by all means,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 2: please do that. Please do start raising children and by
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 2: your early twenties. God knows, that's what my parents did
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 2: create They started raising children by their early twenties. What changed,
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 2: It went quite well, But that's that is no longer
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 2: the case.
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 1: And what has changed is what people what people face
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: growing up. Blake. You know, my generation is making a
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: big deal about the fact that we were the last
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: generation of kids to play outside and be creative and
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 1: be either unsupervised or loosely supervised by parents and so on,
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 1: which isn't universally true. Like that there are kids in
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 1: my neighborhood that run around unsupervised all the time. So
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 1: that's that's not necessarily that issue is not necessarily true.
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 1: But as you go back generation to generation, for somebody
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 1: to survive to adulthood and reproduce. They had to be
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: smart enough to avoid or overcome, confront and deal with,
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 1: navigate whatever you want to say, as an increasingly broad
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 1: and broader and broader spectrum as you go back in
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 1: history of threats to their safety and circumstances that if
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 1: they screw them up, could become life threatening. And so
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 1: you had people matured differently, right, But the brain didn't
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 1: stop didn't reach its full development until twenty five during
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 1: that whole time, it's a growth factor. People got married
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: during their early adolescence and they had the emotional maturity
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 1: and the intellectual capability of handling what was expected of
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 1: a married couple, a young married couple at that time.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 1: But at that time they had a support network of
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 1: their entire extended family. So what's different today. First of all,
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: most people don't confront the same level of demands on
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 1: their intellectual capacity growing up in terms of problem solving,
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 1: wise choices, and so on, because they're more supervised, and
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 1: they're increasingly more supervised with every generation. But the other
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 1: thing is many people do not have that support network.
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: They move away from their families, they become estranged, they
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 1: rely increasingly on the government, they don't necessarily partner up
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: to raise their children. There are a lot of children
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 1: raised in man deserts where they're single moms everywhere, but
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: not a dad anywhere. That's one of the reasons why
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to finish up with talking about this
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 1: particular form of male birth control, because honestly, guys, like
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 1: women have had one hundred years of birth control development,
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 1: increasingly broad spectrum of available types of birth control, increasingly
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 1: broad availability of each of those types where you know,
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 1: you don't just have to go to a specialized place
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 1: to get it. You can get it at the grocery store,
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 1: you can get it in a convenience store, at a
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 1: gas station. You know, there's a there's a lot of
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: places that sell certain certain types of birth control that
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 1: that are just for women. Uh and uh. And then
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: on top of that, it's become increasingly cheaper, Like you
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 1: can you can get birth control pills for less than
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: you spend on on Starbucks every month or whatever people buy.
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 1: I like to make my coffee at home, so it's
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 1: a bad comparison for me. But I hear hear that
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of women are really into they got to
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 1: have their Starbucks or they got to have their gas
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: station coffee, like it's cheaper than gas station coffee to
• 2:50:22
  Speaker 1: get birth control pills. It's cheaper than gas station coffee
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 1: to prevent pregnancy.
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 4: And uh.
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 1: And they have fucked it up. They have killed a
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 1: million babies last year because more than half of the
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 1: women who didn't want to get pregnant, that didn't didn't
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 1: bother using birth control.
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 2: Those of us who grew up in gen X are
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 2: indeed the cusp of gen X. We would read Calvin
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 2: and Hobbes and we would understand everything about Calvin and Hobbes,
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 2: about how you used to just run off into the
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 2: woods with them with your with your pet stuffed tiger,
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 2: and just invent all the all of these amazing games.
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 2: And it was and and and it was amazing. But this,
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 2: this is the cultural gap between gen X and millennial.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 2: That millennials don't have their Hobbs. They don't have the
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 2: companion that they can take with them into the wilderness
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 2: and and play Calvin ball. They don't they don't understand
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: all of all of the all of the amazing games
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 2: that Calvin played because they've grown up with feminist parents
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 2: who wouldn't let them go out into the woods and
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 2: play Calvin Ball, whether with their favorite stuffed animals. Pardon me,
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 2: I'm trying not to cry, I think, but I think
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 2: I've said my thing. We're we're we are two generations
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 2: in two to the kids who don't have their hobbs
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 2: to the to the kids who didn't get to to
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 2: be raised by wolves, the kids who didn't get to
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 2: go out into the wilderness and just and just play.
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 2: They don't know what playing is.
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 4: All they know.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 2: Is this woke bullshit.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 1: There's going to be a big division there among millennials
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 1: and a bigger division among zoomers between kids whose There's
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: two types of parents in gen X, and they would
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: have inspired a couple of different types of parents in millennials,
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 1: and those types are are parents who I would call
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 1: them helicopter parents. Like I don't know what you would
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 1: call whether it's attachment parenting or whatever, but basically, your
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 1: kid doesn't get any alone time. Your kid is constantly supervised.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 1: Your kid is constantly everything they do is directed. They're
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 1: not making up their own games, they're not fighting with
• 2:53:38
  Speaker 1: other kids and learning to negotiate with them instead because
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 1: it's preferable and not because adults said they had to
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 1: those those parents, their kids are in exactly the circumstance
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 1: that is clearly breaking Mike's heart, and it is a
• 2:53:58
  Speaker 1: heartbreaking circumstance. The other said, of us, we well remember
• 2:54:04
  Speaker 1: how much fun it was to make up our own games,
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 1: and we remember how much fun it was to go
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 1: places and do things and explore and and for things
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 1: to be new to us, and for other kids to
• 2:54:21
  Speaker 1: be our primary wall for bouncing ideas off of or
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: listening board or whatever you want to say about evaluating
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 1: our environment and responding to our environment, and you know,
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 1: having the parents there for questions and answers and important
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 1: things like making sure you're safe and healthy and have
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 1: things to eat and a safe place to sleep at
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 1: night and stuff like that, and knowing that you're loved.
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 1: But it's important to also know that you're free. And
• 2:54:59
  Speaker 1: half the kid in the world are growing up without that,
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 1: and the other half have that, and I think they're
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 1: not going to get along very well as they get older.
• 2:55:11
  Speaker 1: One of the best compliments that my son got working
• 2:55:14
  Speaker 1: at his first job was they asked him if he
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 1: was sure he was really as young as he said
• 2:55:21
  Speaker 1: he was, because he worked like a gen xer, not
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 1: like a member of his own generation. And it's because
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 1: he learned a different way of doing things. You know,
• 2:55:32
  Speaker 1: he grew up learning to problem solve and learning to
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 1: negotiate and deal with conflict with his peers and all
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 1: of those things when he needed me to be, you know,
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 1: a mama bear, and I was there to do that.
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 1: They're probably people at his school that still think that
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 1: I am the devil because I didn't let them subject
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 1: him to allergens that he's that were causing serious problems
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 2:56:11
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I didn't take
• 2:56:15
  Speaker 1: his freedom away. He didn't have it on the internet
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 1: because that was too dangerous. But he could go out
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 1: and play with his kids, and I didn't have to
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 1: be sitting there watching him the whole time. You know,
• 2:56:25
  Speaker 1: he get out, go out and play with his friends.
• 2:56:27
  Speaker 1: They could play in the house, they played video games together,
• 2:56:30
  Speaker 1: They watched movies and TV that maybe were not entirely
• 2:56:34
  Speaker 1: age appropriate, you know, all the stuff that we did
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 1: when we were kids. They played at the park, they
• 2:56:39
  Speaker 1: went on the monkey bars. They you know, there was
• 2:56:42
  Speaker 1: not a mom standing at the bottom going, oh, don't
• 2:56:45
  Speaker 1: fall down. So there were kids there will be kids
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 1: in the next generations that do understand what it's like
• 2:56:53
  Speaker 1: to go outside and play and be be kids and
• 2:56:57
  Speaker 1: be creative and and and and learn it. Just the
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 1: big difference in my case was anytime I started to
• 2:57:06
  Speaker 1: give in to that feminine tendency to be super overprotective,
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 1: like stupid levels are super overprotective. The father of those children,
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 1: my husband was there to say, hey, you're smothering them.
• 2:57:27
  Speaker 1: Cut that out. It's the kids that are raised in
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 1: single mother households that don't get that benefit because there
• 2:57:37
  Speaker 1: is no man in there to say, just wait a minute,
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 1: let's see if they'll settle this together on their own
• 2:57:46
  Speaker 1: before we step in and punish them for fighting. They
• 2:57:49
  Speaker 1: may not need punished, They may just be working out
• 2:57:52
  Speaker 1: their negotiation skills. So you, guys, are way more more
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 1: important than you get credit for. And it makes it
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 1: that much more important that you have control over when
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 1: your family starts. So this this thing that's coming out,
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 1: this vassal gel that's coming out as plan A, like
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 1: I said, I you know, I personally think that every
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 1: guy ought to look into it, and every guy that
• 2:58:33
  Speaker 1: is going to go against the advice to avoid being
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 1: sexually active auto at least take the advice to use this. So, Mike,
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 1: I think you're your mic jack is loose. But in
• 2:58:54
  Speaker 1: any case, that's pretty much everything I wanted to cover.
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 1: So in addition to the list of all of the
• 2:59:00
  Speaker 1: other things that we have debunked, we have also debunked
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 1: the fact that unwanted pregnancy is an issue that is
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 1: inflicted on women by the patriarchy. So now the answer
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 1: is women are not being murdered by the patriarchy through
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 1: the weapon of forced pregnancy. Women are not forced to
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 1: get pregnant. They are getting pregnant because they are careless. No,
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 1: they don't need abortion because millions of women every year
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 1: are suffering from life threatening pregnancy complications. It's actually less
• 2:59:47
  Speaker 1: than twenty per hundred thousand pregnancies. It's less than one
• 2:59:53
  Speaker 1: percent of all abortions being done. Is even for medical
• 2:59:58
  Speaker 1: reasons at all, all almost all elective right and No,
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 1: women are not suffering from a situation of well, they're
• 3:00:11
  Speaker 1: stuck being pregnant because their their birth control failed. They failed,
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 1: right and no. Abortion laws were not needed because prior
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 1: to Row versus Wade, women were dying in childbirth because
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 1: they couldn't get abortions. It was legal to get an
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 1: abortion even when abortion was illegal. It was legal to
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 1: get an abortion if you were suffering from life threatening
• 3:00:38
  Speaker 1: health complications. Patriarchy killing women using forced birth debunked with
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 1: that it has it been some really dry material, I understand,
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 1: But I hope that you guys will go through my
• 3:00:57
  Speaker 1: links here that I that I have on the page
• 3:01:00
  Speaker 1: some links that we I don't think we opened up
• 3:01:02
  Speaker 1: that there were other bits of the discussion that that
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 1: visited upon the same thing, so it gave people the
• 3:01:10
  Speaker 1: information anyway, But I hope that you'll go through the
• 3:01:14
  Speaker 1: low bar and look at the links. If you can't
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 1: find them in the low bar, they will also be
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 1: in the transcript post. It doesn't have the transcript for
• 3:01:24
  Speaker 1: everything that we've said, but it does have the low
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 1: bar links in the the Honey Badger Honey Badger Brigade
• 3:01:32
  Speaker 1: blog post for this episode, and it will have the
• 3:01:35
  Speaker 1: same title as this episode. Uh And so all of
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 1: those links are in that post, and they are also
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 1: on our Patreon in in the public post for this episode,
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 1: and they also will be in the low bar of
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 1: the rumble post for this episode. So there's there's different
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 1: four different places there where you can look for. I'd
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 1: like to see people make use of this information and
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 1: these statistics. And for guys who are going to listen
• 3:02:10
  Speaker 1: to me about vassal Gel, if you want to stay
• 3:02:15
  Speaker 1: engaged with vassal Gel and learn, learn you know what's
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 1: coming up next and how the schedule is playing out
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 1: and everything. The link to the page that you're looking
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 1: at right now on the screen is the top one
• 3:02:31
  Speaker 1: in the list of links, because I think it's the
• 3:02:35
  Speaker 1: most important thing for you guys to have access to.
• 3:02:38
  Speaker 1: Like you can use the other links in arguments. And
• 3:02:42
  Speaker 1: it's going back to the very beginning of the show
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 1: when we were talking about the Trump win, that pushing
• 3:02:50
  Speaker 1: the Overton window that we've been doing. You can see
• 3:02:53
  Speaker 1: now how vital that is. It needs to be strong
• 3:02:57
  Speaker 1: armed on this topic because women have been dominating the
• 3:03:03
  Speaker 1: conversation on the topic, and men have every right and
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 1: every reason and every responsibility to have their say. So
• 3:03:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see men stepping up and standing up
• 3:03:20
  Speaker 1: for themselves and promoting factual information in contradiction to the
• 3:03:28
  Speaker 1: false allegation that women are oppressed by the patriarchy keeping
• 3:03:36
  Speaker 1: them from having their abortions. That's not happening. You're not
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 1: guilty of that. Voting for Trump does not make you
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 1: into a woman. It's not going to take women's abortions
• 3:03:50
  Speaker 1: away from them in circumstances where they're going to die
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 1: if they don't have the abortion. I don't know what
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 1: he's going to do in regard to elective abortion. It's
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 1: not really high up on my list of things I
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 1: care about. I'm a lot more concerned about what he's
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 1: going to do in regard to war, because that could
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 1: result in the end of the human races we know
• 3:04:14
  Speaker 1: it if if the trajectory were on right now, isn't stopped.
• 3:04:21
  Speaker 1: But in terms of the hysteria that's being promoted about
• 3:04:26
  Speaker 1: you right now, stand up for yourself, point out that
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 1: it's not true. Don't allow them to shame you. You
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 1: did the right thing and you had every right to
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 1: do it, and you have every right to do it again.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 1: And if women don't like it, maybe they need to
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 1: grow up. So with that, thanks everybody for listening. I
• 3:04:56
  Speaker 1: don't know if either my co hosts have anything to
• 3:04:58
  Speaker 1: add to that.
• 3:05:00
  Speaker 2: Still here, my parents, my parents let me go nuts.
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 2: They let me go far more nuts than I ever did.
• 3:05:12
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I just I know I go nuts sometimes
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 2: in my videos. I know I go nuts sometimes in
• 3:05:22
  Speaker 2: my reactions to what's going on nowadays. But I can
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 2: only think the previous generation. I can only thank my
• 3:05:37
  Speaker 2: parents for letting me go as nuts as I did,
• 3:05:40
  Speaker 2: for going as raised my wolves as I did, for
• 3:05:45
  Speaker 2: letting me be the Calvin that I was. I don't
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 2: even remember who my Hobbes even was. I'm pretty sure
• 3:05:59
  Speaker 2: I had I had ARBs, And yeah, the most important
• 3:06:12
  Speaker 2: thing about raising the next generation is letting them out rbs,
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 2: is letting them go into nature and discovering it for themselves.
• 3:06:25
  Speaker 2: And that this bullshit we talk about with regards to
• 3:06:37
  Speaker 2: the media and such, it really is nothing. It's nothing
• 3:06:43
  Speaker 2: compared to what you can discover in nature if you
• 3:06:50
  Speaker 2: just let the next generation, or indeed the current generation,
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 2: just go out into nature. I know it's become it's
• 3:07:05
  Speaker 2: become a meme to touch grass, But touching grass, it's
• 3:07:12
  Speaker 2: all everything has ever been, just going out into nature
• 3:07:18
  Speaker 2: and touching grass. And if for us all you let
• 3:07:23
  Speaker 2: your children do, then there's really nothing else. So just
• 3:07:34
  Speaker 2: let them do that. It's a grand new world out there.
• 3:07:42
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember why that last covered and Hobbes
• 3:07:46
  Speaker 2: strip ever was where they's went out into this blank
• 3:07:51
  Speaker 2: slate and they're just painted anything they wanted onto this
• 3:08:05
  Speaker 2: plank slate. There was this snowy landscape. So yeah, just
• 3:08:15
  Speaker 2: do that. There's nothing more you can offer your children too,
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 2: Just paint whatever they can on this plank slate.
• 3:08:31
  Speaker 1: I I'll do, I'll do, okay, And you're right, and
• 3:08:37
  Speaker 1: there's not really much I can add to that. There's
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 1: one of the best things about growing up as a
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 1: gen xer. Gonna make me cry. That's not easy to
• 3:08:50
  Speaker 1: do unless you find me when I'm not okay and
• 3:08:53
  Speaker 1: then ask me if I am. But in one of
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 1: these days where I'll get on here and start talking
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