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Unlocking Precision Health and Longevity with Tracy Wood · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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  Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here today with someone who's a very special friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine and someone I met through the former founder
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  Speaker 1: of the DNA company in Toronto, and I think you
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  Speaker 1: might remember he's been on my podcast. His name is
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  Speaker 1: Kashif Khan, and Tracy Wood is the new CEO of
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  Speaker 1: the company, and Kashiff has kind of stepped over to
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  Speaker 1: being more of the brand marketing, carrying the waiving the
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  Speaker 1: flag and doing a lot of business development. So I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a perfect segue because Tracy's an operational executive
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  Speaker 1: and Kashif was really as often happened to these startups,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was the idea man, and as the
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  Speaker 1: company starts to grow, they need somebody with more operating
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  Speaker 1: skills like Tracy.
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  Speaker 2: So welcome to Ageless and Timeless. Tracy, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: It's great to be here, and thanks for asking me.
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  Speaker 1: And also, Tracy was the subject of our Top Doctor
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  Speaker 1: magazine article that we did about I think two or
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  Speaker 1: three months ago, and it was a fabulous article.
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  Speaker 2: We got some great feedback.
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  Speaker 1: And I've seen Kashif has been on Instagram quite a bit,
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  Speaker 1: at least that's where I see him talking about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the developments that are happening. So i'd like today, Tracy,
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  Speaker 1: if you'll kind of step in and give us some updates.
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  Speaker 1: So when I did the test, which was I think
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  Speaker 1: two and a half years ago, there was no breast
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  Speaker 1: testing and that was something you've added, so we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about that. And however, I will say that my test
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  Speaker 1: was sixty pages long, and it's really cool something to
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  Speaker 1: navigate because you know, once you do that test the
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  Speaker 1: genetics profile, you don't need to ever do it again.
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  Speaker 2: Because you are you know, your genes are your genes.
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  Speaker 1: Although the one thing that Tracy can talk about today
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  Speaker 1: is there's more and more epigenetics that happen with respect
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  Speaker 1: to gene interpretation, and over the two and a half years,
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  Speaker 1: so much has happened, I mean, peptides and more DNA
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  Speaker 1: issues on just the methylation and how we can use
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  Speaker 1: our genes to help us to better methylate and have
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  Speaker 1: longer telomeres and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: So Tracy, I'm going to turn it over to you.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't you tell us from two and a half
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  Speaker 1: years ago, what has happened at the DNA company and
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  Speaker 1: what things will will be exciting for our viewers.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, so I want to start with yes, gosh if
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  Speaker 3: still speaks about the brain. But Kashef has his own business.
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  Speaker 3: He's an influencer and he does a lot of different
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  Speaker 3: biohacking things, some things with water and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So right, we do one hundred percent of his testing.
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  Speaker 3: Because we still are the leading authority in functional genomics
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  Speaker 3: and the interpretation of functional genomics globally. We actually expanded.
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  Speaker 3: You just said eugenes are your genes and you only
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  Speaker 3: have to test once. That's not entirely true. So as
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  Speaker 3: functional genetics and genomics has evolved in the last three years,
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  Speaker 3: we've spent time with some of the scientists that originally
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  Speaker 3: created the idea of the DNA company that Kashiff then
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  Speaker 3: became the brand spokesperson for. But we've added ninety one
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  Speaker 3: genes and insights and explanations to those insights to further
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  Speaker 3: delve into different parts of our own bodies. We have
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  Speaker 3: a greater understanding and mood and behavior than we ever did.
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  Speaker 3: We've done a ton of work and research on longevity,
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  Speaker 3: and now we can give you a better picture of
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  Speaker 3: your longevity, your indicators for dementia or Alzheimer's. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's so many new pieces to what we do. So
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  Speaker 3: one of the things that was important to me when
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  Speaker 3: Kashav asked me to take over as the CEO, it
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  Speaker 3: was important to me to keep us affordable and accessible.
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  Speaker 3: And you mentioned the sixty page report. That was the
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  Speaker 3: first thing I went after, and I said, we can't
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  Speaker 3: have reports that look like this. People are not going
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  Speaker 3: to download sixty pages. They're not going to sit Look
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  Speaker 3: some of them were one hundred pages. So I started
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  Speaker 3: the development of the app. The app now can take
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  Speaker 3: you through your genes very quickly, easily searchable, and it
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  Speaker 3: breaks it down into the different systems in the body.
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  Speaker 3: So if your big concern is inflammation and methylation, you
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  Speaker 3: can go straight to those sections. You can see what
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  Speaker 3: your gene expression is, and you can see what suggestions
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  Speaker 3: and recommendations we have for you. You know, we're still
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  Speaker 3: not the pill for every ill people, right, That's not
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  Speaker 3: who we want to be. So it was very important
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  Speaker 3: over this last eighteen months when my chief science officer
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  Speaker 3: did all of this research with the clinical team and
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  Speaker 3: really delved in to areas that all of our community
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  Speaker 3: have asked for. And so that's what the new report
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  Speaker 3: does now now separate to that. To avoid the sixty pages,
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  Speaker 3: the app had to upgrade to the tech stack and
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  Speaker 3: our tech stack. You know what Kashavin the team before had,
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  Speaker 3: it was ten year old technology. So we did a
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  Speaker 3: multi million dollar lift and rebuilt that tech stack. And
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  Speaker 3: during that process we were able to go to people
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  Speaker 3: and say, listen, we want to be able to give
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  Speaker 3: you all of your genes in perpetuity at no extra cost,
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  Speaker 3: but we need everybody on the new technology, so we're
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  Speaker 3: going to give all of you the test at cost so.
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  Speaker 4: That we can get you into the new tech stack.
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  Speaker 3: And then every time we go and add ten genes
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  Speaker 3: or twenty genes or additional insights that are really pivotal
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  Speaker 3: and important, you get them for free in perpetuity.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's good.
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  Speaker 3: That is amazing, Tracy.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea, so I'm really behind the times,
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  Speaker 1: and that's good that I know this now because I
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  Speaker 1: want to do my own personal updates. But also I
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  Speaker 1: recommended you to so many people back then that I
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  Speaker 1: know took me up on my suggestion. So a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those people, hopefully they're either listening today or I
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  Speaker 1: will put this in the show notes for others to
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  Speaker 1: be aware of that they have an opportunity to update.
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  Speaker 1: So how many total genes are being tested today?
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  Speaker 2: And you're I think we're.
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  Speaker 3: One ninety eight, one ninety nine. Now it's important to
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  Speaker 3: know we're pulling your entire your entire profile, but the
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  Speaker 3: insights and the snips and the cnbs that we're reporting
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  Speaker 3: on that really hone in to specific parts of your function.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, I think it's one ninety eight or one
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine. Now we're doing research for the next group.
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  Speaker 3: So in the next twelve months we may throw another
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  Speaker 3: forty fifty different indicators that we think maybe emphasize things
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  Speaker 3: like apoe or five HTTP or any of those that
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  Speaker 3: really drive a lot of other parts and pieces, right,
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's really important that if if anyone and
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  Speaker 3: in fact, we're only we're only letting people get it
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  Speaker 3: at cost through the end of this weekend. We've been
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  Speaker 3: doing this since December fifteenth, so we gave up the
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  Speaker 3: and the ecosystem six days and it's only one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and ninety nine dollars, but in that one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ninety nine dollars, you're getting twice as much information and
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  Speaker 3: really drilling down into more pivotal parts of the human body,
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  Speaker 3: your hio individual human body, right, which is really.
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  Speaker 4: So as it grows, people will be able to just go.
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  Speaker 3: Into the app at any given time, see the update,
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  Speaker 3: and get any of the new insights, and they get
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  Speaker 3: them all for free after this upgrade.
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  Speaker 1: So what's your what's your long term goal in terms
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  Speaker 1: of numerics about how many genes and how often will
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  Speaker 1: be the updates and so with what's your what's your vision?
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing. I could give you hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of pieces of data that mean absolutely nothing to you.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that. What matters is what's going on
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  Speaker 3: with our community. What matters is what's going on. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you look at women's health right now, we've been told
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  Speaker 3: the black box warning has been removed from BHRT well
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  Speaker 3: as women.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I know, we knew this twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I've been on BHRT for twenty years, so right, So
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  Speaker 3: we want to make sure that if there's more insights
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  Speaker 3: for hormones, if there's more insights for thyroid, if there's
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  Speaker 3: more insights into cardiovascular, the ones that make a difference,
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  Speaker 3: the ones that we can action right. You know, we
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  Speaker 3: always say that that your your DNA essentially loads the gun, right,
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  Speaker 3: your jeens load the gun. But the environment and your
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  Speaker 3: lifestyle pull the trigger.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And with that, if you've got a lifestyle that's consistent
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  Speaker 3: with how you're built, you know, if you're if you're
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  Speaker 3: one of those people that's really built to be a vegan,
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  Speaker 3: It's the same thing if you're putting food, or you're
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  Speaker 3: putting medicine, or you're putting environmental stimulus into a body
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  Speaker 3: that can't process it. So I'm my big focus is
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  Speaker 3: not how many genes we're going to add, because I
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  Speaker 3: could just add a bunch of crap and it would
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  Speaker 3: be nothing to anybody, right. My focus is what can
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  Speaker 3: we tackle that we can change to help with longevity.
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  Speaker 3: How can we help people age better? How can we
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  Speaker 3: help people age stronger? How do we get You know,
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  Speaker 3: the leading cause of death over for anyone over the
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  Speaker 3: age of fifty five, third leading cause is frailty.
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  Speaker 2: Well what does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: That means you fall, you break something, you you know,
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  Speaker 3: you hit your head. If you're frail over fifty, that's
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  Speaker 3: a scary thing.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're a gene that tells you about cyclopenia
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  Speaker 2: and your muscle mass.
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  Speaker 3: Is absolutely all of that's in the cardiovascular program. All
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  Speaker 3: of that is in the inflammation part of the report,
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  Speaker 3: the detox part of the report. So there's so much
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  Speaker 3: more that we can tell you than we've ever been
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  Speaker 3: able to tell you. Right, And now we've got people
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  Speaker 3: in other countries very far from here coming to us saying, listen,
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  Speaker 3: we want to bring your your testing, your lab, your
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  Speaker 3: report into our country. Yeah, we have a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: regulations here, but we still think you are the leading authority.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean we're talking ten million in the first population.
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  Speaker 3: So whatever we're doing wrong, we're doing right right right
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  Speaker 3: Doctor Mansur, who really was the brains behind what became
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  Speaker 3: the DNA company in doctor Manster Mohammed I was calling
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  Speaker 3: vice ports name. Doctor Mohammad was way ahead of his time,
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  Speaker 3: still is, and so when we took his foundational testing
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  Speaker 3: and then added these additional insights, I think that my
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  Speaker 3: chief science officer, doctor Koshuman, has done a stellar job.
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  Speaker 3: We've gotten great feedback. We've actually been doing more webinars
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  Speaker 3: to teach our community. Hey, here's what your new genes are,
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  Speaker 3: and we're chunking it down really small so that people
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  Speaker 3: can ask questions in real time. Not everybody can afford
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  Speaker 3: a concierge doctor, right, Not everybody can afford to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: go into different programs and you know, there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these people that are popping up that are you know,
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  Speaker 3: health and wellness coaching and whatnot, but there's not a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of clinical validation behind it.
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  Speaker 3: And that was the big piece that Kashif wanted me
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  Speaker 3: to bring, which was that clinical validations. So we've got
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  Speaker 3: you know, thousands of providers all over the world. We
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  Speaker 3: developed the DNA University, which is now the education system
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  Speaker 3: that's internationally accredited as well as accredited here in the
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  Speaker 3: United States. That validates the education, It validates what we're teaching,
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  Speaker 3: and it helps give these people that want to learn
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  Speaker 3: foundational genetics and genomics. It gives them a starting point
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of great information. And that's also a
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  Speaker 3: lifetime access thing. That was important to me, Michelle. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you and I we deal with a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: in the same circles, right and every four or five
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  Speaker 3: years they have to do a continuing ad and they're
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  Speaker 3: spending good money after bad for the same schools, and
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  Speaker 3: it's absurd to me. I'm giving them a lifetime of
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  Speaker 3: tuition that they get at one time, and we continue
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  Speaker 3: to update the information so every four years we also
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  Speaker 3: are once again another sixteen credits that they can use
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  Speaker 3: even though they've already gone through the course. It's just
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  Speaker 3: more information with more science, more vetted research.
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  Speaker 1: So's that's really impressive. So what are some of the
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  Speaker 1: revelations that you've had through these all these innovations in
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  Speaker 1: the expansion of the genetic profile.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think the most important thing that I
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  Speaker 3: see is efficacy. So we have people that come to
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  Speaker 3: us that are sometimes at the end of their rope.
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  Speaker 3: They have tried everything. In fact, I had a patient
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  Speaker 3: reach out to me from the UK and she sent
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  Speaker 3: me a message and it said and it was on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: She sent me a message and it said, I've been
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  Speaker 3: diagnosed with breast cancer and they want to perform a
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  Speaker 3: double mastectomy and I go in in two weeks and
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  Speaker 3: I'm terrified and I don't know what to do. And
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  Speaker 3: I wrote back to her and I said, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a doctor. I don't play one on television. I said,
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  Speaker 3: but I can put you in a room and I
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  Speaker 3: will do this pro bono so free. I'll put you
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  Speaker 3: in a room with a bunch of my doctor's virtual
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  Speaker 3: room and let us ask some questions to maybe arm
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  Speaker 3: you with when you go in to see this allopathic
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  Speaker 3: person that you're going to go see. So the meeting
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  Speaker 3: was literally we got everybody assembled within twenty four hours
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  Speaker 3: because this woman didn't have a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I got all of the right people in the room,
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  Speaker 3: which was very important to me. And there she is,
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  Speaker 3: and her husband is sitting in the background, and he's
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  Speaker 3: a typical Englishman. He's very quiet, he's very reserved, he's
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  Speaker 3: just watching. And my father was an Englishman, so I
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  Speaker 3: was acutely aware of who this guy was sitting in
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  Speaker 3: the corner right. And so she starts telling us what
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  Speaker 3: is happening to her, and she's very upset. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to have a bunch bunch of people asking
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  Speaker 3: questions here, Is that okay? And she said sure?
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  Speaker 4: And I said is that okay for you to him?
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  Speaker 3: And he just cried. And I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if we can do anything to help your wife, but
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  Speaker 3: here's what I will tell you. If there's one thing
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  Speaker 3: we can pull out of this that you guys can
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  Speaker 3: use to arm her and to help her, that's all
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  Speaker 3: I care about, so long as short of it, we
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  Speaker 3: go through the whole thing. Two weeks later, I get
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  Speaker 3: another message she said, I didn't do the double mistectomy,
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  Speaker 3: and we had found her a functional practitioner close to
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  Speaker 3: where she lived in England, and she went to this
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  Speaker 3: practitioner and took her gene report, and our doctors agreed
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  Speaker 3: to talk to them again at no charge, to try
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  Speaker 3: to just help to move the needle. And I talked
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  Speaker 3: to her at New Year and the cancer has not progressed.
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  Speaker 3: She changed a bunch of things based on the insights
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  Speaker 3: from the genetic report she did the tear protein test.
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  Speaker 3: We were able to help them figure out different things
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't have over there. And the long and
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  Speaker 3: the short of it is, this woman has not been
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  Speaker 3: surgically altered. She feels better than she's ever felt. Her
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  Speaker 3: husband has hope and is excited about their retirement. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the part that's so important to me. Every patient
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  Speaker 3: is different, Michelle, So we meet them where they are,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of times that people can't afford
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  Speaker 3: to work with us. I built an installment plan program
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  Speaker 3: that's no interest, just so we could continue to try
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  Speaker 3: to help these people and can't afford to do it
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  Speaker 3: all at once. So to me, you know how I
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  Speaker 3: got here. I mean, my sister died. It was a
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  Speaker 3: year ago last or nineteen years ago last week. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what got me into this. That's why kash If
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  Speaker 3: and I came together because one more life is the
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  Speaker 3: focus for us, and that means it could be one
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  Speaker 3: more life impacted, one more life saved. We deal with
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  Speaker 3: a lot of addiction and recovery now because our mood
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  Speaker 3: and behavior profile really delves into that, and we're able
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  Speaker 3: to help people that have been I had one patient
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  Speaker 3: who had been to Betty Ford four times and they
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  Speaker 3: got nowhere. I had another one that went to Cliffside, Malibu,
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  Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars a throw nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: These were all for addiction.
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  Speaker 3: These were all for addiction, and we got them to
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  Speaker 3: understand how they were built foundationally and using our insights,
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  Speaker 3: what they could do to make changes for those physiological
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  Speaker 3: needs that were not being met. But they didn't even
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  Speaker 3: know they had them. So, you know, the DNA company
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  Speaker 3: when I got here, had a great report. We were
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  Speaker 3: definitely bleeding edge. The DNA Company now, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: is the absolute global authority and functional genomics and functional genetics,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that as we continue to do our research,
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  Speaker 3: our goal is that one more life. Our goal is efficacy.
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  Speaker 3: How can we help, how can we support? How can
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  Speaker 3: we help you move whatever needle it is you need
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  Speaker 3: to move?
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  Speaker 1: So I just I just want to clarify. Did you
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  Speaker 1: say that she did not do the double? She decided
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  Speaker 1: not to do it, Okay, So she chose to go
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  Speaker 1: your route of being with a functional medicine and looking
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  Speaker 1: at her lifestyle and epigenetic approach, right, and so then
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  Speaker 1: she needed.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: That functional doctor across the pond.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: We educated them and functional genomics so they could use
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: that report and weaponize that report.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Right. That's that's an amazing story. I mean, you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: and that's just one.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Of I'm sure one of thousands, Michelle, thousands exactly.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So what would you.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Conclude if you're going to make it, if you were
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: writing a report, a white paper on that particular case,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: what would you conclude in that paper?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I would definitely encourage people to question everything
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: when it comes to seeing a practitioner, any practitioner, including mine.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: We call it practicing medicine for a reason. Right, nobody's
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: gotten it down right, you know what I mean? When
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: you go see a doctor, so many of us we
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: walk in this is the doctor we got from insurance
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: or we got from National Health, and we walk in
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and whatever they say, that's gold. That's it. And I
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: would encourage people to question. And doctors will get exacerbated,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: they will get frustrated with you in some cases. I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: understand that, and I know they've got seven minutes, that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: all they have with you and eat. But if somebody's
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: telling you they have to surgically alter you because there's
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: a cancer in your body, and if they don't, you've
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: got six months to live, you had damn well better question. Yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: you had, damn well better double check them. We don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: we don't know what we don't know if we're not
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: in healthcare. Right. So I think that if I was
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: to write a paper on her particular case, my entire
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: focus would be question everything.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: And she was in a community where she didn't think
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: she could do that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: M H right, And she probably had an allopathic surgeon
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that was more interested in cut, cut, cut, because that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: why they make their money. I mean, let's face it,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: follow the money is definitely still you know.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: A.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Goal for a lot of these because otherwise they don't
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: have a practice. So that's their business.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: So in that recommendations for her change in her lifestyle.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: What were some of the things. I'm just using her
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: because this is such a.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Great example of how lifestyle and choices make can make
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a difference. So what were some of the recommendations that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: your team and her functional medicine that doctor who you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: recommended were giving her to basically help her not to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: do the mess ectomy.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: And to be able to basically not you know, just
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: stop the cancer from growth.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Sure, so inflammation was key, right, She also needed methylation supplement, right, Okay,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: So we were able to send her some We.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Have a custom formula and we actually made a formula
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: for her based on her genetics, so we can do that, yes,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and so we made that and we had those sent across.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But one of the biggest things was she needed more
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: quiet times, she needed less stress.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Right, stress exacerbates cancer.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So we had one practitioner that all she did was
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: teach her how to meditate. This woman was she was
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: she probably had seven eight years on me, so late sixties,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: early seventies, and she'd never meditated.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: She was an English woman, right, that's not big over
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: there in our generation. So that was one of the things.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: The other thing was the food. Right, everything is brown,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and there's gravy, and there's flour, and there's wheat. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: we said, listen, your genetically your HLA is genetically predisposed
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: towards gluten sensitivity. It doesn't mean you're celiac, that means
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: your body doesn't like gluten. Right, So we went through
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: all of that with her, and we changed every things
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: she put into her body.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Another one was was cow's dairy.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Now she can still have goat, she can still have
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: sheep if she wants dairy, but the cow's dairy she
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: couldn't have because of the protein that it has specifically,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: that's different. So we went through all of that with her,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: and we incorporated some additional weight training, right, just resistance bands,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: picking up jugs of milk, right, those were those were
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: things that we did, and she.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: She turned, she turned all of it around.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: She really for one day, you had a very compliant patient.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, obviously highly motivated and so you know she followed
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: your instructions. Did she take up any any other exercise
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: besides the resistance that she maybe gets?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: In England they don't.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Seem to be as avid about physical fitness as we are.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So yes, that something that she was able to yes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: So her and her husband started walking more vigorously because
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: they were retired, which was very helpful. But her weightlifting,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and there's so much research right now on women, especially
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Perry and menopausal women with us in weight training. There's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: so much science on that right now. That was a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: big part of the focus. A big part of the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: focus was to get her picking up heavier but less
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: reps right, doing more to really expand that muscle. And
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: then we had to feed the muscle. We had defeed
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: it the way she needed to be fed, and that
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: was no gluten, no dairy, lots of genetically formulated supplements.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And you know, she's active, he's more active. We did
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: work with him and the two of them, the two
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: of them have a whole new view at life.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going to say, that's the personal,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the attitude part that you know, the positive mental PMA.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know the fact that they had hope
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: come into their lives rather than despair. That I mean,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: is there a way to test that genetically as whether
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you're being genetically compromised in like for me, I remember
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Cash telling.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Me that he and I both have the same gene when.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It comes to dopamine that we're entrepreneurs, We get a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: big hit and then we say, like a minute later,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: well what's next, you know, And so we don't really
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have a gene that helps us to feel good neurotransmitter wise,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to feel good for a long period of time. We
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: always need a new stimulus. So that's the one that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I remember for you know, for me. But but I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: try to work on that and you know, make every
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: effort and experience and outcome beclismic enough to you know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: hold on and make it something of value and precious
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and not just take it for granted. So was there
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: something like that with her that that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: You absolutely Her mute and behavior profile gave us a
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: lot of insight into.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Was she going to take the recommendations right?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: We can tell you if somebody is going to be
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: open to new ideologies, because that is functionally genetic. We
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: were able to tell how well she would follow and
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: with what type of mindset. Now the new testing gives
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: us even more information in that space. So I'll be
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: interested to see what happens when we retest you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. This is so excitable. So what let's
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: segue from a moment to.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: The separate test that I did with you, the breast test,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: because I think people a lot of women, you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: don't understand what that test is going to tell them,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: So can you? Is that still an existence a separate test? Yees?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: So we do the breast three sixty and it's a
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: tear production test and it tells us different inflammation markers
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: and protein markers that could indicate that there's something that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you need to test for. So why did we decide
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to do this? We decided to do this because more
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and more the rules are being changed over who gets
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: screened and who doesn't. Not just in America, it's all
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: over the world, and the American Medical Association, along with
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: National Health and Canadian Health, they all started moving the needle.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Instead of us being screened at forty, now it's forty five.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And now we've got younger women, many younger women, late twenties,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: early thirties, that are coming up positive for breast cancer
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: and it's taking months and months to get tested, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: in some of those cases, these women have died.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Why did they change that level from forty to forty five?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Money?
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, money, It comes down to money.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: And so I got very frustrated with what I was
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: seeing and what I was hearing, and I went to
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: one of my practitioners and she said, hey, there's this
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: revolutionary testing ideology. She goes, if we take that and
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: we take their functional genomics, we can take those results
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: and really knock out some movable action. And I said,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I want to see it. So we did that, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: in that we have now tested thousands and thousands of women,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: and they're younger, but they're also in rural areas. They
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: can't get to a mammogram and they certainly can't get
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: one approved, and the test is right around three hundred dollars,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: so it's very affordable. But a positive result in that
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: test can then get the allopathic medicine system to say, okay,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: now we have to test you because you have a
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: lab slip here that says we've got.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: A problem, you have a diagnosis, you don't have a diagnosis,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you have an indicator of early detection, and that in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of cases is enough. Okay, Okay, So what's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: happened since you've created that test? What kind of results
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: have you seen and what would you say have been
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the biggest accomplishments or that Having that test.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: So the biggest accomplishment is awareness, right, letting these people
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: know here's there's something in here and you need to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: have it checked. Some of those that come back with
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: a positive detection result doesn't mean that you have breast cancer,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: but it could mean that you've got so much inflammation
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: in your body. You have to look at what that
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: other inflammation is and where is it coming from. So
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: when you've got both of those tests together, we can
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: usually help isolate where this inflammation's coming from, and more importantly,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: what to do to combat it, what to do to
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: help again move that needle back down to that healthy
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and more cellularly healthy range within the human body. So
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I have a question.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: What if you have an ultrasound and you're completely negative.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Everything turns out fine, But yet you take your test
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and you have inflammation, but it looks like it's related
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: to the breast because it's a breast exam.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: But yet you just had an ultrasound.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: That showed a completely clean bill of health. So how
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: if you had something like that come to you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Or attention, what would you do?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Well, Okay, again I'm not a doctor.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: What I realize I would have I would have.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: One of the practitioners that deal in women's health and
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: specifically breast health. I would have them go through those results,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: but I also would ask for a full metabolic panel.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'd want to know what the blood also says. If
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: you take all of these pieces and put them together,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the jigsaw comes together, it becomes more clear. So I
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: think that you know we're big on tests, don't guess, right.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I would even go beyond that and say, I'm going
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: to do a liquid biopsy, which is an FDA approved test.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do a liquid biopsy and if there
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: is a cancer cell in my body, in theory, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: should be able to know where it is and in
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: what system. And if that came back with a positive,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: we would tell that patient to go get a full
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: body scan and to take all those results with them.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: We would send them to a tersory center somewhere like
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: USC very progressive bleeding edge because there would it would
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: be time for diagnostic tools.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: So if you do an MRI just and you had
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: some let's say a cancer in the breast area, would
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: that be revealed by the MRI if they.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Did a tea yeah, the.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: T sect right, yeah, yeah, you able to see any
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: mass in that space, depending on depending on how they
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: approach it from, you know, the radiology perspective, and then where.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Does a Dutch test or those kinds of hormone tests
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: fit into your protocol.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: So a Dutch test is really great to help us
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: figure out where a woman is in perimenopause menopause and
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: where their hormones are. The more we've learned about hormone
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and hormone imbalance, the more we see that that also
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: is a indicator in insulin resistance. There's a lot of
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: science behind blood glucose diss regulation comes with hormone disregulation.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Once you regulate the hormones, then you've got to go
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: back and look at diet, food and type two diabetes
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: in a lot of women. So the Dutch test that
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: we do, a Dutch test complete, and again we take
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: that with your DNA three sixty. We put it all
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: together and we grow your puzzle picture and we're able
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to then look at those results and say, you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: maybe you are someone that needs a progesterone or an estrogen.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: And you know, we're not a drug company. We're not
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: selling anyone's specific formulas, but we're big in bioidentical biomimetics,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: so stuff that comes from food. I've been on the
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Wiley protocol for gosh, fifteen years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: The Watch protocol was developed by TS Wiley and it
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: is bioidentical biomimetic, which means it comes from food and
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: it's a transdermal cream. And I've been on that for
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: fifteen years, and for me, it has been exceedingly successful.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of my practitioners here that are
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on that. Some of them are on that and they
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: do oral pogesterone. It just depends on what your body's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: looking for.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I thought I was pretty knowledgeable about hormoney. I have
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: never heard of this Wiley protocol. So what's in it
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that makes the impact that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: You're going to have to ask TS Wiley what's in
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: it to make the impact? And I will tell you
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: is this. Do you remember that show? It was, like, gosh,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: thirty years ago, Suzanne Summers went on Oprah and was
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: shaking her little bag of hormones. Yes, it was those hormones.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: So Suzanne was on those from the very beginning with
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: TS Wiley. There's a lot of celebrities that use the
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Wiley protocol a lot, but it's again, it's very effective,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: it's non invasive, and it's it's controlled rhythmically.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: So it's transdermal cream that affects the level of your
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: vital hormones, particularly your sex hormones.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I can't.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Believe I have never heard this.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: You should be t S Wiley and I we're we've
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: been friends for a long time. You should definitely connect with.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Her because I think you should be on my show.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I think she absolutely should be on your show.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So it's a it's a woman. Yes, it's a woman. Yes,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: And she wrote she wrote Sex, Lies and Menopause, which
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: was a great book. Oh yeah, and she wrote lights Out. Okay,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: you will you introduced digitally introduced us. So yeah, I
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: would definitely want to hear more about this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: But so does that mean that it affects the level
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of other hormones that you take, like, for example, do
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you take estradile or do you take testosterone.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Or you know?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: In other words, now, how does it influence what happens
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: at the other end of the sequence of what your
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: protocol looks like?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: So these are ts Wiley questions. I can tell you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: what it looks like from testing, but I would encourage
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: you to meet with her and I have her on
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: the show because she can tell you to the nth
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: degree how each of these things come together, how it
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: affects cortisol, how it affects your skin, your hair.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's just yeah, it sounds yeah, but yeah,
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: I feel like, wow, this is a big, a big
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: opportunity that you know, not only for me, but for
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: all my viewers.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and this is both men and women benefitly.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's a male protocol to a lot of our
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: guys are on the male protocol.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a male and a female protocol.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: So when you said you work with the.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Dutch, does that mean you have one internally in the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: company that you have employed the Dutch technology or does
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that mean you sub out the Dutch test to anybody
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that has a question.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So a Dutch generally has to be ordered by a practitioner.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: So we have to place that order for a patient,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: and it's the Dutch complete. It's not just the Dutch test,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: And we do use their technology. All of our people
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: are certified by them that read the results. And again,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: take your DNA three sixty and put the two together
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: to make a more complete picture, and then you get
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: it's a mandatory consultation, so that you get all of
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the information from a practitioner that's licensed to have the conversation.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is really exciting stuff.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So what other new tests of other I know you've
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: added more test, but what other new tests have you added?
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Well? I think I think the biggest new test is
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: the old test. The DNA three sixty now is a
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: far more robust, a much bigger set of insights than
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it ever was. It's like the first test that Kashaf
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: did on steroids, right, and it provides so much action
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: ability for the consumer that they can literally go into
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: the app, which is very fast compared to the old PDF.
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: You remember, they can go into that at any given
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: time and isolate down to one thing that they want
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: to really understand, and they get a bunch of insights
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: on that are digestible that they can they can get
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: it right. I mean a lot of the stuff that
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: we had originally was so over people's heads. We realized
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that we had to meet these people where they were
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and bring it down to something that was very practical,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: very actionable, and very right. Now because people want to
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: make change. They want to make change now, and that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: what we did.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is like when we talk about dimension
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: of longevity that you know, it can actually doesn't have
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to be for the wealthy, because a lot of people
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: are complaining, Oh yeah, you know, it's great to live forever,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but you better be pretty rich, you know, because you
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: take all these you know, the plasma poresis tests and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the stem cells and you know, forty thousand of pop
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, all these things cost a lot of money.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And so people who are hardworking, middle class or lower middle.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Class, they feel like they're being left out.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: But in your case, this is giving you an anchor
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: into awareness that is not costly and yet can be
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the foundation for making very good choices.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: And so I'm just, you.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Know, blown away by what I'm hearing today. Well the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, I usually don't talk about
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the competitors, but I did have meet Kim Wrestler at SNIP.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So what they're testing in yours? If is it night
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: and day or it is night and day? Okay, can
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: you give us is lovely? By the way, I yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: absolutely lovely used our tests for years.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no she so, so how would you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: compare differentiate between the two tests, just so people who
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: have looked at that test, and I know you don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: want to talk down on it, but just so that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so that you get people get an awareness of what
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you're going to get from one versus the other.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: So different. I think that when when you go buy
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a car, you don't buy the car for the radio. Yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you might be into radios. You might get in the
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: car and go, oh.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: My gosh, this is the greatest radio of all time.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I know everything.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: There is no about this radio, and this radio is
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: going to do everything I wanted to do. Well, what
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: about the rest of the car. Yeah, if you don't
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: know anything about the the car, what about.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: The tires, what about the engine?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: If you don't look at something in its totality, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: cannot make lasting change.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, And there's.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: The differences between us and pretty much all these other
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: DNA tests. You've got to look at a person as
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: a bioindividual and at a three sixty degree view, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: if you don't do that, you are not doing them
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: a service. You can do a little service. You can
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: help them with a little thing or one specific area
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: of concern, or maybe even a chronic condition, But what
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: about what got them there? Where's the work on that
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: root cause? Yeah, somebody comes to you and says, you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I have osteoporosis. Okay, we know that's inflammation in a
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: lot of ways. We also know it's genetics. So how
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: do we get to the root cause of that? We
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: have to know all of the rest of their genetics.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: We have to know how do they detox, how do
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: they process things? We have to know so much more
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: than just the patient has osteoporosis. Now, from that chronic condition,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: what else is wrong?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Right? Well?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You know I do.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I'm tired, I've got fatigue, right, Okay? Are those two
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: things linked?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna know if I don't look at
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: all of your stuff. And so I love what Kim
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: is doing. I think that she does great work. But
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I think that there's more to you and more to
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: me than just that longevity focus. Right, I'll be sixty
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: years old this year. I'm lift Thank you. I left
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: about a quarter of a million pounds a month. Wow.
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: Wow, I couldn't do that in my thirties, right, But
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: knowing what I know now, based on everything about me,
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: I lift a quarter of a million pounds a month.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: So what did you do to create that change and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: that success?
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: You know, the first thing I did was I stopped
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: running on a treadmill going nowhere. I thought the only
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: thing I could do to be strong and be healthy
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: was get on a treadmill. The bullshit, because genetically it
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: didn't work for me. Genetically, I have to do eighty
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: percent heavy weight training heavy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Weight, and twenty percent can be cardio.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Well, twenty percent is going for a walk, right, I mean,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: but I have to do heavy weightlifting. So I do
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: four and a half hours a week of really heavyweight
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: like this morning I did. I'll tell you exactly what
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I did. I did eighteen seven hundred and forty one
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: pounds this morning, and in a variety of the machines,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: or just in the free weights, No, no, in a
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: variety of machines. So I have a machine in my home.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: It's called Tonal, and I'm not endorsing Tonal. I just
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: happened to find that it's small, it's not intrusive, and
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: it gives me everything I need. I bought this during
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: the pandemic, when I couldn't go to the gym and
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: go swimming or run on my treadwhill, which, by the way,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: changed nothing for me. And I used to swim five
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: hours a week, an hour five days a week.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Wow, nothing, nothing, nothing.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: So I bought a tonal and I had we have.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: A fitness gal. She's a professional weightlifter and bodybuilder. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I said to her, I said, can you make me
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: a program? And she did? And so I started doing
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: this and at first I'm like, I'm not doing anything,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: it's not changing anything, and didn't change. But all of
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: a sudden, my clothes fit different, and I went, ah, Okay.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: So I went to Kashaf and I said, here's the deal.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: He goes Tracy lift heavier but fewer wraps. Okay, fine.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: So I started deadlifting a ton of weight and again
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't lose any weight at first, but I gained
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a ton of muscle. So long in the short of it,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I have lost I think it was six inches off
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: of my hips. Wow, through this process, and a bunch
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: everywhere else. But my weight still maintained in a healthy
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: and a healthy zone. And now I have more energy.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I'm a thousand times stronger than I ever was, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I can hit a golf ball on about two hundred
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and forty two hundred and fifty yards.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. I think I'm doing.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Great when I'm at one hundred and fifty drive, but wow,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that's just show you how strong you are. Do you
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: ever do the the in body or the the other
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: one that I found at the show in December. It
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: is called something shape, but they you know, they go
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: in and basically dissect every part of your body as
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: far as fat mass and muscle mass.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: And I have a scale that tells me like how
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: much muscle I have, which is going way up, how
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: much the bone is, how much right? I have all
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: of that on my scale?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: And have you seen have you seen big changes there?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Huge?
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Huge? Yeah.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've changed the whole body composition absolutely, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: you didn't have to lose a bunch of pounds, but
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: your body change.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I think that's key.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: For people to understand.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: How are the g LP ones and you know, the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: people that I've used those have had things like insulin
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: resistance when they would genetically pre disposed.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: How has that affected your.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Relationship with the testing when the genetics say they are
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: predisposed to having insulin resistance, and yet now they're a
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: GLP one and they're they're now showing that they're conquering
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: their type two diabetes.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So despite their genetics.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Well they're they're only conquering it while they're on it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Well, you're seeing is everybody that's coming off of it,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: that's true. We're also seeing an increase globally in pancreatic cancer, which,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: by the way, is one of the lesser known side
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: effects to many of these medications. That's right, right, So
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: what we're seeing is we're seeing women again, our contemporaries
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: coming to us and saying, my hormones are still a mess.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I've lost thirty five pounds, but then I
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: put it all back on plus another twenty percent, right,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: and can't I can't keep doing these shots, and I
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: can't afford this and can of for that?
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: This is no different than that whole pill for every ill. Right,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: does it help some people? Yes? One thousand percent?
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: And you know what, good for them.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Doing that work injecting something into your body that takes
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: a mindset of I'm at the end of my rope, right,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: so good for them doing that. But what do you
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: do in conjunction with that, Well, if you don't know
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: if your body should have this type of fat compared
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: to this type of fat, or if you should have
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: this much carbohydrate compared to that much carbohydrate. If you
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: don't know that, even while you're on those shots, you're
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: not going to change anything. I'm going to tell you
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: one more story that I'm gonna let you go. We
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: had a gal come to us. And I've known this
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: this gal for twenty years, been friends for twenty years.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: And she came to me at an all time high
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: in her weight and she said, I give up. And
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I said, what do you want to do? And she said,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: I can't take anymore. She said, I feel horrific, I
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: look horrific. I can't get up. I have chronic pain,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I have fibromyalgia, I'm in serious depression. I'm taking all
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: of these medications. And I said, well, I said, if
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: you want to get real about your shit, let's get
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: real about your shit. And I said, we need to
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: test you. And we did. And in that test, we
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: found there was problems with gluten, there was problems with hormones,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: there was problems with different types of dairy products. We
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: found that there was a big aversion to taking advice
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: because that's genetic, and we found that they could not
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: consume alcohol. Their body just wasn't built for it. And
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I said, so let's tackle one thing at a time. Just
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: stop drinking, don't start moving, don't do anything else, just
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: stop drinking. And she wasn't a big drinker, but you know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: she had a glass of wine at the end of
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: every day. She's a C level executive for a fortune
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: five hundred company, and you know, at the end of
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: the day she came home, she had a glass wine.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: So we stopped that. And then I said, how about
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: if I cook what I cook for me all week
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: and I'll make just I'll just make twice as much.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: On a Sunday, you come and pick up your food
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: and then only eat what I make. So I got
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: her gluten free and dairy free.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: In the first month, she lost sixteen pounds.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Wow, I said to her, no NOLP, no GLP. Yet
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: she goes, I want to try the GLP ones. I said,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: that's fine. I said, but if you're going to do that,
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you have to start working out. And she bought a tonal.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: So she got a tonal. In she had a consultation
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: with Felicia, who's our Felicia Fitgil and Felicia said, here,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: just do this little program. So we got her doing
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: that because again she's at a fortune five hundred companies,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: she's a chief. She works fourteen hours a day. She
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: drives three of those hours because of where she lives
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: compared to where her organization is.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: So stress, So stress is a big factor too.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Dress right, can you imagine being on the freeway in
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: California for three hours a day, I'd shoot myself right awful.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: So anyway, we got her doing it. So she gets
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: up at four, she has her coffee, she is in
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: her gym by five, she's in the shower by six,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: she's out the door by seven, and she's at the
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: office for half past eight. And that was her new thing.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Now we just actually profiled her in the magazine that
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: came out first of January, and she's down fifty six pounds.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Oh stopped the GLP one. She was only on it
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: for a couple of months in the middle, and she
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: has stopped that and she has not gone back to
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: any of her old habits because now she knows in
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: her brain and what she has to do to keep
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: herself on track. And there's knowledge is power, absolutely, you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: we give all this free education, Michelle. We're not charging
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: people for a masterclass. We're not charging people a subscription
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: to come into our webinars to grace us with their presence.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: We want everybody to come. We want everybody to listen
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: to the replay, Go onto the YouTube, go into the app,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: read the magazine. We want you, guys to get as
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: much good vetted information as we possibly can get to you,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: one of the big.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Because that makes your job easier to implement a result
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: of findings. When people are receptive and knowledge here again,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: knowledge is power. They if they understand, then they're going
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: to be far more able to be compliant to execute action,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: positive action. So I have two more questions for you.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: That's right his story, by the way, But I have
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: two more questions for you. So you mentioned earlier that
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: you have a customized supplement product. So in a case
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: like this woman, did you give her a multi so
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: called multi program so that she could no longer just
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: willy nilly take supplements.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: It might not be serving her.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: And how did you come about customizing that supplement?
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: And can anybody who takes your.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Test then come back to you for a customized supplement?
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wanted to make that affordable as well.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: So most people spend about five hundred dollars a month
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: on the high end three point fifty on the low
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: end for supplantation. So I wanted if you had your
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: genetic results, which she did, I wanted you to have
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: a consultation with a certified functional genomics practitioner because we
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: have to take the rest of your history. Right now,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: my friend had donated a kidney to her sister, so
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: she had some special needs, right. She had fibromyalgia, so
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: she had some special needs there. She also suffered with depression.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: She had special needs there. So it's important to me
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: that you sit with a practitioner. But again, I got
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: to make it affordable. So we got the price of
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: that consultation down to seventy five dollars, which honestly is.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Unheard of, right, that's unheard of for sure.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: But then we take your gene report, we take your
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: clinical history, and then we go in and we make
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: you a custom formula. Now she's spending was five hundred
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: and twenty two dollars her last order, but that was
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: for three months, okay, So we wanted to make it affordable.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: We wanted to make it bio individual, and we wanted
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: to make it accessible, and we tell everybody you got
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: to order three months at a time, it's a lot cheaper,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: which they all do, and they don't have to buy
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: any of this other crap that they're getting at costco
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: or she ends a percent of its.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Court which is oftentimes tainted anyway, and you know comes
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: from China and as counterfeit. So that's why they're saying,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: don't buy your supplements on Amazon, because you don't always
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: know that it's for the real company or some Chinese imitator,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: so it.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Doesn't the same Michelle, I know the PEP times coming
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: into this country are all formulated in a region of
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: the world where there's no rules.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: And then if you know, there's a whole other right,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: tens of thousands of dollars, and then we inject them
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: into our body because we think that's a good idea.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: But Tracy, if you do it every three months, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: let's say you come to a point where your body
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't need one particular supplement anymore because it's now functioning.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Perfectly on its own, you know, and then you don't.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Want to make it so that it doesn't make its
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: own Let's say you know where you suppress the body's abilities.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: So do you retest.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: People, let's say, after the three months, to see if
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the customized formula needs to be modified.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: No, because the formula is based on your genetics. It's
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: not based on your condition. So but what we do,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: your formula is based on your height, your weight, your gender,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: and your genes. Okay, if your weight changes more than
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: ten percent, we're gonna say you need to have another console.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: We need to We need to make sure we're doing good.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: I want people to be able to come in, get
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: what fits for them, and then only see us once
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: a year. Right, That's that's the goal. But if you
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: have major changes, then we have to address those. Then
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: you have to Okay, So I have two more questions.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Actually I lied, I said one two more, it's really
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: three more. So the second question is about the APO
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: for Alile. Okay.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: So let's take someone like Chris Hemsworth, who you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: obviously has gotten a lot of publicity about, you know,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: finding out that he has the gene and then quitting
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: his actors' roles just to be with his family because
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: he felt maybe that this was like a death sentence.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: What would you say if.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: He were your client coming into the DNA company to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: do your test.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: The first thing that I would I would offer to
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: him is genes are not diagnostic. They're indicators.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Lots of people have the brackagene and the cancer. Lots
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: of people don't have the brackagene and they get cancer.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: And you're talking about breast cancer. Now.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, genes in and of themselves are not fatalistic. They're
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: not diagnostic. Understanding the inter exchange of gene and function
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: and all of those things added to lifestyle, et cetera,
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: that's where you can then start to look at something
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: and say, this one thing could be a contributor. There's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: no bad actor in your genes, right, There's only a
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: bad decision behind that gene. Right.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: So it comes down to you said it over and over.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Education. The more you know, the more you know, the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: more you understand and and be willing to come in
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: and look at yourself from that three sixty seat and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: decide what it is you want to be different. You've
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: got to you've got to decide what's important to you
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: and if it's weight management, if it's longevity, if it's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, cognitive decline, then hone in on that,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: but work with somebody that knows how to help you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: hone in on that based on your genetic results.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so basically, if Christians has worked in your are
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: you would.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Tell him you don't need to quit your job and
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: give up your career because you think you're going to.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: You know, die young.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: You have the opportunity with this knowledge to improve whatever
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: it is that you know might be genetically predisposed to.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: But doesn't mean you're going to get.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's just because so there's so many people that get
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that that APO four positive and they think that they're
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: going to, you know, have Alzheimer's, But that doesn't mean
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: So I think if we could just settle that would
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: help a lot of people mentally to be less stressed
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and have more positive outlook about their ability to just
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: live a normal life and just follow the lifestyle epigenetic
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: approaches that they will you know, they'll never get Alzheimer's.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Does that seem.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Fairer to it'sperfectly fair assessment.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, thinking that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: your genes are fatalistic.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: Here you decided what you're gonna do yes, Right, you've.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Already made a decision. That's that's how my life's going
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: to end. Well, if that's what you think, nobody going
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: to be able to change that. Nobody but you. People
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: cannot be treated in groups. People cannot be treated clinically.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: And I see this all the time. Oh, I'm going
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: to this masterclass and we're going to talk about this,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: You can't be treated clinically in a group.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: You have to have that one on one because as
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: a clinician, they've got to ask you questions that you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: haven't thought of yet, and they're gonna look at your
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: answers in it. In that totality with the results, with
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: the labs, with the histories. I mean, I make our
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: people come in all the time, that are women coming
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: into programs. I tell them I want every single medical
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: test that you've had done in the last two years
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: loaded into the EMR.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: And they're like why, I said, because more is better.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Right, right? More is.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And you can see changes, Like if you're running it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: over two years, you can say, Okay, two years ago
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: you had some elevated creat meme, so your kidneys were compromised.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: But today everything that's normal. So whatever you did in
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the meantime, So it's important to see a.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Timeline right absolutely, and.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: Again tracking the trend right, tracking the trend.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Of all of our data. You know, we don't sell
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: your data right now, not that we haven't been approached,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: but just.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Quantified right right.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: That's what happened with twenty three and me who did
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: sell that data, you know, obviously became you know, true
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: charlatans and bankrupt, right, and then they turned around and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: gave her the company back visa via another person.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how that became a thing. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: So we get approached all the time, you know, we
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: can biobank this, and it's like, no, no, my people
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: don't want that. My people don't want their shit being
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: sold to some pharmaceutical company or some insurance company or
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: some government.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: We don't want that, right right.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: So you know, when you come in here and you
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: and you get that apoe, that's a four.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: You don't want that information being passed.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: Anywhere, right, even when you think that the the hippo
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: laws would protect people from you know, like people like you,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: from ever doing that because you're basically sharing medical information
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 7: with uh, you know the world.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Well, no, here's how it works. So when you biobank
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: somebody's data, you're not uniquely identifying them eligically, and that's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: how they skirt some of that. I don't do it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: And one of the things kash you have said to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: me when he asked me to be the CEO was
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: how do I How did I feel about that? And
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I said, quite candidly, gosh, if over my dead body,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: and he is okay. And so you know, we've we've
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: had people send us things demanding somebody's results and I've
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: written back no right, No. Unless that patient comes to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: me and says, hey, can you send my stuff to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: this person, my response is going to be no. Right.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: I take a little bit of heat for that, Michelle,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: but it is what it is.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I love to hear that, and I'm sure everybody listening
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and viewing loves to hear that too, because you know,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: there's so much issue now about privacy on the internet,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: with what's going on with Meta and.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: You know, the Instagram and all the things where your
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: data is. You know, you're not You're just not safe,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: and you feel like you are. You can be watched
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: for what your buying practices are. And it's really amazing.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, you know, you look at something that you might
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: want to buy online, and next thing you know, you're
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: getting ten different advertisements for that particular item, and you say,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: how the heck did they know that I was looking
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: at buying an electric toothbrush, and now all of a sudden,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I'm flooded with electric toothburgs. Okay, So my other question is, so,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: when I did your test, this is more personal, but
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it does affect a lot of people. When I did
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: your test, I came out with the obesity. I had
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the obesity gene that and yet I'm you know, always
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: from the time I was young. You know, I've always
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: challenged by staying thin and fit, but I've always been
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: able to accomplish that, and I've never succumbed to what
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: my genetics would say that I could be obese.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm assize six, and you.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Know, I weigh one hundred and fifteen twenty pounds, you know,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm five to six. You know, you would never
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: ever suggest that, but genetically, I'm predisposed to having the obesity.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: So how do you explain that to people that I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: mean it's kind of similar to what we were saying
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: about the APO four in the BACA.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Right, it's not diagnostic. It's an indicator. It's not a guarantee.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: It's an indicator.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's an important statement. It just makes so I'd
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: like to repeat that for everybody that when you take
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: your genetic test, it's not diagnostic.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: So don't take it literally that you are going to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: be a victim, because you might as well give up
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: and accept the fact.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: It's like with the dopamine and the neurotransmitters that Kash
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: and I share, you know, the fact that we have
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: a weak dopamine gene or whatever it is, but yet
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: we are able to be very high energy, high positive
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: thinking and thinkers. And yeah, so it's the same, isn't
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: it the same issue where basically they say the genes
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: don't lie. Well, maybe they don't lie, but they don't
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: need to be some verdict, right, They're.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Not some self fulfilling prophecy. You know, I believe everything
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: is a choice, everything in life, and I always have
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: and I do believe everything is a choice. How we
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: show up, how we present ourselves, how we manage our stress,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: how we manage our sleep, how we interact with the world.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Everything's a choice, right. I can have a really tough
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: day and go home and be in a ship mood
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: and just be angry. Or I can leave my day
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: at the office and then just go home to my
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: beautiful view and sit on my back audio and just
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: be so full of gratitude. That's all a choice, right.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: My genes would have me leave here furious, drive home
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: like a maniac, be furious when I'm at home, and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: take forever to shake it off. Right, That's not a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: self fulfilling prophecy.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: That's a choice, right.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect You just gave the perfect
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: answer that basically you know you might have a certain
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: verdict come out.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Of your genetics.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: That does not mean because we have free will and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: free choice, that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Does not mean you have to accept that.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Because actually that's where I guess the definition of epigenetics
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: comes in. Right, what you choose and your lifestyle is
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: going to influence the outcome, so the verdict can be
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: different than the so called judgment that you see. So
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I think you have to be a kind of a
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: psychologist when you are dealing with these people taking.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Your test too, because a lot of people give up.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: They say, oh, well I have that, you know that's
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: my that's a verdict and a self fulfilling prophecy.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: And you have to really get in there and give
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: them a kick in the you know what.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why the mood and behavior part of the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: panel is so important, right, And generally when we sit
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: and talk to a patient, we start with mood and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: behavior because everything is a choice. If they think this
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: is this is it, this is how I go, that's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: how you're gonna go. Ah, you know it's it's I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: learned this from Tony Robbins years and years and years
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: ago that if you focus on what's dead around you,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: the brown in life.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: That's how you're gonna get.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: If you focus on the green around right, you're gonna
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: see growth, You're gonna see life, you're gonna see thriving.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: It's it's all that that force of focus. If you
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: are genetically pre determined to suffer from serious depression, yes
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: we have to share with you how to focus on
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: that green. You're gonna need some help, You're gonna need
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: some coaching, and we do that. But you're also need
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: some supplementation and we do that. So if you take
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: these little tiny steps for yourself. Pretty soon you're gonna
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: wake up in the morning. You're gonna open the window
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: and go, wow, look at the hills, say look really
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: green today?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I think you've hit the nail on the head that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: we are all energetic beings.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: And you know we can look at the.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: World with as they always say, the glass half full
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: or empty, right, and or we have a choice to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: look at it overflowing and to find all the green
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: as you say.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: So, you know, we are what we think. We are
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: what we eat, but we are what we think. But
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: they do combine, you bet they.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Do, and they drive our behavior.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: So what what would you like to say to our
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: viewers and partying today? What would be one final like
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: kernel of truth and a message that you would like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: to impart.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I think the most important thing that I say any
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: on any given day is test. Don't guess. If you
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: don't know what you don't know, you can't change anything.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: So get your test done. If you can't afford to
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: do clinical consults, that's okay, come to the webinars, bring
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: your test in the app ask questions. They will answer
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: them for you. We will do everything we can to help.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: I have to say that on the Internet, you are
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: one of the more active companies for all this education,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: this web, the webinars and the rest, and it's it's
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: really impressive because that's a lot of work.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: You have to.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Corral a lot of experts to even.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would never want to be in your
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: position to come on the internet and have something fall
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: flat in its face because you didn't have the right
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you know, information, So you really have to be prepared.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: And that takes a lot of executive time and money.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: So I go to an.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Amazing team, Michelle. I'm West. I live a blessed life.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: I have, in my opinion, I have the best people
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: in the business.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: I really do. Well, that's right. There shows leadership, belief
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: in those that follow you. You know, a good leader
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: is only someone who has great followers.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Right. Absolutely, before we go, I had just one more
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: thing that occurred to me because we did touch on
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: peptides earlier.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: And yes, there are many charlatans, and yes.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: There are also some good pharmacy well actually compounding pharmacies
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: that are bringing peptides out.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: And that's become kind of the darling of the supplement world.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: That and stem cells.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: But but what how are you incorporating like, let's say
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: slain or cimax, two of the neuro peptides that have
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: shown some results with people that we talked about earlier.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Who have you know, some mental issues in their genetics.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: So are you embracing the quality peptides the ones that
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you know are are you know, produced at the highest
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: levels of efficacy? How are you incorporating that into your
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: customized supplement program. We're not.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: We're not. Okay, So so I said earlier, we call
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: it practicing medicine because they had they don't have it
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: down yet. I feel the same way now. There's a
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: massive difference between some of these supplements companies and what
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: we do. There's a massive difference between all of these
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: foreign peptide companies and what some of these other good
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: folks do. My concern is who creates that formula, what's
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: their education, what's their medical and clinical research background? You know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: somebody that's an influencer, the wrong person, that is the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: wrong person A did.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: How many of those are happening right now?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: And it's it's it's the wild, wild West right now,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: right but.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: It's malpractice, it is and they don't have a medical license.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: But here's the bigger problem. I literally had this happen
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: two weeks ago. We had a patient come to us
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: that took the advice of somebody on these peptides. And
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: this person custom created the formula themselves. And they had
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: no medical education. They every went to college, they didn't
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: even take bio ken. Yeah, And I said to her,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: I said, what were you thinking? And she said, everybody says,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: you know, he's a Google.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna kill you. Yeah, it will, it
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: will crash and burn. But you know, look, supplements are
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: not regulated and that creates a wild wild West in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: the very many of these counterfeit supplement companies that they
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: find when they test them that they don't even have
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the ingredients that they say, and what they do have
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: is damage is damaging to our health.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: So you know, it's all around us. You just I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: think the key word is discernment.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, first knowledge, you know where to go,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: and starting with somebody like you as you will lead
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: them because they're you're starting at the foundation, which is
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: their genetic profile.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: So all right, Well, we've.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Done a lot of exploring and covered a lot of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: ground today, and I think you're always Yeah, you're always
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: fun to be with and talk to you, and you
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: have so much knowledge. And yes, I didn't mention your
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: background early on because we had that in the article
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: about you, but I think it's just so touching how
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: you came to be who you are. So maybe just
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: take the one last minute we have and just tell people,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: not you can take a little more than a minute,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: but just tell people what it is that happened to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: you that basically changed your whole life trajectory.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Sure, so I was in technology. I worked for General
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: Telephone MCI. I worked for big network companies, and when
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: my eldest child was too she was diagnosed with a
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: form of child child centric or something. Looking at it,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: was itp and essentially her platelets.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: That's what by the way, Tracy, you never told me that,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: but that's exactly what I have had. Auto It's an
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: autoimmune condition. It's idiopathic, so you don't know what causes it.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: But I didn't have it until I was twenty six
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: years old. So they think that it might have something
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: to do with vaccines or pesticides, and you know that,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: but it does it dumbfounds the medical world because they
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: don't know, why is it your body is attacking its
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: own platelets? Well, yeah, I.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Believe, I understand, Yeah, I understand it.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I start started. Right, we almost lost Isabelle
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  Speaker 3: and it was horrific. I mean, my little girl was
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: bleeding to death right and you can see it. So
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  Speaker 3: during that time, I decided to get my real estate
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  Speaker 3: license and I would go in and become a broker
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  Speaker 3: and then I could stay at home with the kids.
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  Speaker 3: I had two kids at that at that point, one
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: was a newborn and of course Bella, who was two.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's kind of how I came out of
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: corporate America. And in February of two thousand and seven,
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  Speaker 3: my eldest sister died of a drug overdose. She was
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  Speaker 3: forty five years old. She left behind a developmentally disabled
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  Speaker 3: son who I was his conservator, and a pregnant seventeen
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  Speaker 3: year old daughter. And my sister had told all of
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  Speaker 3: us for years she had cancer. We knew that wasn't true.
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  Speaker 3: We knew there was something really wrong, so we assumed
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  Speaker 3: this drug overdose was simply that. Come to find out,
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  Speaker 3: after the doctor who said to the fire chief the
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  Speaker 3: night Jackie died. Hey, I'll sign the death certificate. She
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: had cancer. This was a mainstream doctor in a nationally
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  Speaker 3: established medical system. The fire chief said, okay, fine. Body
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  Speaker 3: was taken to the mortuary. Seven days later. The doctor's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: not signing the death certificate because he finally looked into
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: the EMR and found out Jackie never had cancer. But
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  Speaker 3: what he did do was he treated her and streated
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: her for five years. She went in and said, I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: have cancer, I have pain. He gave her oxyconton, he
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: gave her vicodin, he gave her Norcoe, He gave her
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Soma xanax. Jackie had every narcotic note to man in
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  Speaker 3: one bag, but what she also had was three other
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: drugs for schizophrenia, which none of us knew. And in
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  Speaker 3: January of that year, January twenty eighth, to be specific,
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  Speaker 3: he changed one of those schizophrenic meds and clearly forgot
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  Speaker 3: that the rest of the narcotics that she had could
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: kill her. And within five days her lungs shut down
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  Speaker 3: and Jackie stopped breathing. Oh my god, my whole family
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: fell apart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly, Michelle, I couldn't function right, and we were
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: gutted right because she was schizophrenic, so all she really
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: needed was some help, and we would have helped, but
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: she kept everybody so far away. We thought she did
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: have a.
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  Speaker 4: Drug problem, but the truth was is she really didn't.
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  Speaker 3: She was just medicating to get by because this schizophrenia
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: was doing what it does. And the challenge I had
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: with that doctor was he was a psychiatrist and he
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: gave her the drugs that killed her. And so after that,
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  Speaker 3: I went through a lot of therapy for myself for
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: my family, and I realized I had to do something,
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  Speaker 3: and I actually started the first online behavioral health platform.
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  Speaker 3: It was called how to Connect. We had seventy some
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: odd team members. We were all privately funded, and at
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: the time, the chief medical officer for TELEDOC came to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: me and said, hey, can you do this project? And
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: I said, sure, we can do. They wanted to do
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: a control group of six hundred thousand patients in California,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: and I said sure, and then TELEDOC burned through their
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: money in September laid everybody off, and.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: That was kind of the beginning and the end of it.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: But that's what got me to stay in behavioral health
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: and then wellness and just chase it down to find
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  Speaker 3: a way to make one more life impacted. Whether it
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: was this patient in England, whether it was the guy
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: we got through massive addiction, whether it was someone like
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: my sister. So that's what got me.
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  Speaker 2: That's because she was killed by the.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Medical, allopathic, medical absolute community.
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  Speaker 2: And what happened to your daughter? Did they cure the ITP?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: So ITP, as you know, is not curable.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: She went into remission, but not until she was fourteen,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: and she's been healthy ever since. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because in my case, you know, I don't take
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: I've never had any surgeries. They wanted to take my
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: spleen out when I was twenty six, and I said
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely no, Thank god I was smart enough.
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  Speaker 2: And then later I.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Read that most of those people that had their spleen
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: out never got the platelet's ITP cured anyway. So but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so something she's doing lifestyle wise has helped her.
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  Speaker 3: And that's almost I kept her gluten free, she didn't
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: get sodas or anything like that. Yeah, I was really
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: big on how their food was delivered.
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  Speaker 4: She was not allowed to be inoculated at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I came to all of that, all
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  Speaker 3: of that away.
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  Speaker 1: From her, I think you can take the response the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: credit for her being where she is today.
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  Speaker 2: Just like in my case it was me.
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  Speaker 1: I was, you know, just that motivated to go learn
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: everything I could. But I wasn't like it wasn't consuming me.
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  Speaker 1: It was just I somehow there were angels on my
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  Speaker 1: shoulder that.
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  Speaker 2: Said you need to follow you know, these paths.
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  Speaker 1: And that was obviously the you know, alternative approach and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: not the allopathic. So I know that, Yeah, I might
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: be a miracle. My doctor in Beverly Hill says, you're
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: a walking miracle.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: My Flavly count is like the last one was like
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: well I had won recently at fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Thousand, but the one before that was seventeen thousand.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: And that's what it's been hanging out at around seventeen thousand,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: which your normal is supposed to be one hundred and fifty.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Thousand and fifty five thousand. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the fact that I can be a normal person,
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  Speaker 1: there's some you know somewhere God is watching out for me.
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  Speaker 3: I always, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, have gratitude and thank the Good Lord.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you very much, Chasy, and send
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: me that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll send you an intro to t S.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, all right, you take care,