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Richard Arnold: US correspondent on Bill Gates warning that AI growth can't keep 'going unchecked' · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: Stateside, Richard Arndell, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm well, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Now, where are we going with this oil in the strait?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, who knows? We're certainly hearing tougher rhetoric once again
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  Speaker 3: from both sides in this. As Trump rejected that new
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  Speaker 3: Iranian offer to reopen the oil channel, this is the
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  Speaker 3: Wall Street Journalist reporting that Trump might resume military strikes
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  Speaker 3: right after the midterms. Of course, we hear these threats
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  Speaker 3: on and on, don't we? This also comes as Iranian
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  Speaker 3: envoys have been attending the opening of the UN's new session.
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  Speaker 3: Trump's United Nations ambassador, Mike Walsh, is accusing Tehran of
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  Speaker 3: demanding too much in their latest truce offer.
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  Speaker 1: This was, I think, a pretty cynical attempt to put
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  Speaker 1: something on the table that they knew was unacceptable.
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  Speaker 3: He says it is not possible up front for Iran
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  Speaker 3: to seek an end to the US blockade and sanctions
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  Speaker 3: and access to billions of dollars in assets. So this
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  Speaker 3: sounds pretty much like where things stood months ago. Iran's
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  Speaker 3: foreign minister, Araghji, also speaking in New York, says little
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  Speaker 3: has changed since the negotiations began back in June. He says.
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  Speaker 4: We want it to be ended. We want our monies,
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  Speaker 4: our assets, which are illegally frozen.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, he says his country as well is, quote-unquote,
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  Speaker 3: fully prepared for the war to resume.
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  Speaker 4: We are ready to negotiate as much as we are
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  Speaker 4: ready to face any challenge. We stand firm in the
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  Speaker 4: face of any challenge, any aggression, sorry, We stand firm
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  Speaker 4: in the face of any aggression against us, even if
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  Speaker 4: it comes to a doomsday war.
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  Speaker 3: While Trump is responding to those British arrests of five
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  Speaker 3: men who were suspected of terrorism and deployment of explosives
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  Speaker 3: near an RAF base used for US strikes against Iran, he.
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  Speaker 5: Says, Working with Britain, it was an amazing job. We
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  Speaker 5: had them under investigation. They were looking to do big
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  Speaker 5: damage to our port. We had them under view for
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  Speaker 5: a long time and we got them.
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  Speaker 3: So this conflict continues to send out all kinds.
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  Speaker 2: Of Indeed, and Bill Gates has weighed into the AI debate.
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  Speaker 1: He has.
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  Speaker 3: Once again, the co-founder of Microsoft is putting forward some
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  Speaker 3: new thoughts on the rising concerns about AI. This was
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  Speaker 3: one of the key issues at the US-China summit in Washington, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: although no real word on how to regulate the rapidly
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  Speaker 3: expanding threat with this. Gates himself is echoing what others
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  Speaker 3: in the industry are warning about. He says that AI
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  Speaker 3: growth cannot be allowed to go unchecked.
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  Speaker 6: AI is certainly powerful and up. to drive events that
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  Speaker 6: cause a billion deaths.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, happy Monday, right? Salutary to hear this from someone
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  Speaker 3: like Gates who says further.
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  Speaker 6: There's never been a weapon as powerful as the combination
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  Speaker 6: of people with ill intent using the latest AI tools.
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  Speaker 3: He says that all the talk about kill switches to
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  Speaker 3: stop rogue AI elements at the The point of no
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  Speaker 3: return is inadequate.
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  Speaker 6: We're not yet at the point where they autonomously grab
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  Speaker 6: computers and can't be shut down. So that discussion just
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  Speaker 6: sort of shows how non-technical various people are.
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  Speaker 3: What must be done, says Gates, is to put in
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  Speaker 3: place a better monitoring system. He says in relation to this.
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  Speaker 6: We do need to monitor... any sophisticated model and record
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  Speaker 6: exactly what's being done. The United States ought to make
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  Speaker 6: sure this is done. China will want to do this.
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  Speaker 6: Usually people expect the U.S. to be very concrete about
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  Speaker 6: what this looks like. And you'll hear from the industry
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  Speaker 6: it's a very doable thing. It would not slow them
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  Speaker 6: down dramatically.
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  Speaker 3: So doable, he says, but we're not hearing as yet
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  Speaker 3: any specifics, are we?
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  Speaker 2: No, we are not. See you in a couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Arnold stateside. By the way, the Palo Alto CEO,
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  Speaker 2: a guy called Nikesh Arora, he said any slowdown is
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  Speaker 2: unlikely to succeed. So he basically reiterates what Gates has
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  Speaker 2: just said. Supreme Court win. He's not winning many of them,
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  Speaker 2: but he got a win up over the weekend. So
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  Speaker 2: SCOTUS has said that they've lifted, basically, restrictions on his
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  Speaker 2: desire to to use the federal database that uses citizenship
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  Speaker 2: information and sensitive data to identify voters. Back in June,
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  Speaker 2: a federal judge said that system was illegal, violated the
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  Speaker 2: privacy rights of Americans. Scotus has disagreed, so he's got
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  Speaker 2: to win there. Other one over the weekend that they
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  Speaker 2: failed on again, it was another one of these war
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  Speaker 2: powers resolutions. This was in the Senate. Democrats are hoping
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  Speaker 2: to convince a few Republicans to cross. It was all symbolic,
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  Speaker 2: but if you got enough Democrats crossing, one, you might
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  Speaker 2: win the vote. And two, you might go, hey, look
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  Speaker 2: at all the Democrats that don't believe you anymore. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't work, 49-50. And the Republicans who switched were
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  Speaker 2: Tom Tillis, who you would expect, Susan Collins, who's virtually
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat anyway, Lisa Murkowski, who's the usual suspect, Rand Paul,
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  Speaker 2: and Fetterman, ironically, who isn't a Democrat. Well, he is
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  Speaker 2: a Democrat, but he's not really a Democrat. They're those.
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  Speaker 2: It was the usual suspect.
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