Latest / DMV Mess Hall / "Believe!" Episode 65
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- 0:00Hi folks, this rig dot, Warburton.
- 0:01D.o.c., this is John kind, and you're listening to the mess
- 0:05hall with rally captain and tail gate 10.
- 0:09What's going on rally? How you doing, man, go brother
- 0:14is Wednesday. The weather's halfway decent.
- 0:17The The Fog Has Lifted or the smog or the suit, whatever you
- 0:22want to say from Canada. And hey, man, it's a beautiful
- 0:25day and I'm ready to get into the mess hall with you, my
- 0:28brother? The question is, how are you?
- 0:31I'm doing great, man. I mean you said it all that
- 0:34small, whatever the hell it was. All that Canadian junk is gone.
- 0:38We get to enjoy, we got to roll. Lacks the team is off for six
- 0:42weeks, so hopefully no on-field drama between now and then.
- 0:47So I'm looking forward to going over that with you and I was
- 0:51looking forward to the other day being yesterday, Tuesday, going
- 0:55out to that, OT a practice, but coach decided to cancel it.
- 1:00So curious what you were thinking about that?
- 1:04Because we lost two practices because of last year's
- 1:08excessive, Contact. So, a couple of the guys got
- 1:12taken to the ground, Rivera chewed him out and lit a fire
- 1:15into them, because you knew they were gonna get in trouble.
- 1:18So now he did, they got caught and now we had less 0ta sessions
- 1:26and Rivera actually said that he wanted to basically I'm
- 1:30paraphrasing here but he wanted to get a gauge of his guys
- 1:34maturity. And are they going to show up
- 1:37when they're not mandated to show up because everybody was
- 1:41there for mandatory minicamp. But we had a couple guys that
- 1:45were there when it was voluntary.
- 1:48And yesterday would have been voluntary in.
- 1:51I wanted to see who was actually going to post.
- 1:56Do you care or not really that big a deal.
- 2:00Well here we are with that debt. That big word again you know
- 2:05that four syllable word voluntary, you know, see it fast
- 2:10voluntary. So I think what probably
- 2:13happened was. Somebody planted a bug in his
- 2:15ear and they said, hey coach, I'm not gonna be here tomorrow.
- 2:23And probably someone else said it, and let's face it.
- 2:27The coach is, has a pretty good gauge it.
- 2:29What's going on in locker room? So instead of looking stupid and
- 2:33becoming another headline in the Press, just go ahead and and
- 2:38circumvented before we get started and give the guys off.
- 2:42So the guys didn't have off, they just didn't practice on the
- 2:45field, they still had to come in and get a workout.
- 2:48There's still had to have meetings and they actually said
- 2:51that this was a sweet from Nikki chavala.
- 2:53Commanders won't have an OT a day.
- 2:55Tuesday would have been their last before the break, coaches
- 2:59felt the offseason went well and was well attended.
- 3:02And they didn't want to risk. Further injury, players will
- 3:05just have meetings in a light workout, Tuesday, to cap their
- 3:08offseason program. So I get not wanting to risk
- 3:11injury. Yeah.
- 3:13But the last time they were on the field, the first team
- 3:16offense actually got kicked off the field by be enemy because
- 3:21they got stuff wrong when they run.
- 3:23Stalling. A play, the enemy just ripped
- 3:24him. A new one and made him run off
- 3:26the fee. Wouldn't you know that would
- 3:29help out another day? It goes back to what I was
- 3:34telling about the whole Warren Sapp thing, man.
- 3:37How much of those guys realistically going to maintain?
- 3:42Or I'm sorry? Retain from 24 hour sessions I
- 3:48mean, I do me wrong. I think it looks good.
- 3:51It feels good for men, and this is society nowadays, bro.
- 3:57We forget what we have for dinner yesterday, so we forget
- 4:02more than, then we remember. And if it was, if we have, if it
- 4:06was more repetitiveness, then I would say, okay this, I'm just
- 4:12saying, I don't believe know what to think because I'm not an
- 4:15NFL player I hear. So it's It's not your job to
- 4:19remember what you had for dinner, but it is their job to
- 4:23get these plays installed, right?
- 4:24It is their job to understand this new playbook where they
- 4:29quote on quote wordy system. So you would think the more
- 4:32repetitions regardless. If you get a break the more it's
- 4:36going to get iron into your brain.
- 4:38I'm not disagreeing with you on that.
- 4:40What I'm saying is obviously they saw something that sparked
- 4:45them, that's take injury out of it, okay?
- 4:48Because it's because to me Andre is a catch-all, you gotta say
- 4:51that to make everybody feel good.
- 4:53Oh no, but but, but if by chance, let's say friends and
- 4:57they did retain 98% of the Playbook.
- 5:00Then yes, go ahead and give it to them all, but I have to
- 5:04believe that if they didn't, then their butts would have been
- 5:07here today. And here's my thing is, since
- 5:10we're bear has been here. He is always given the last day
- 5:15of OTAs as kind of an off day for the guys.
- 5:19So this isn't something new. And if FanDuel had odds on it,
- 5:24odds were going to be. They weren't going to have to
- 5:27practice your do anything but he literally questioned his players
- 5:33I guess maturity level. And then he backed out.
- 5:38You're the head coach of this team.
- 5:41To me, you're showing me, you don't have a backbone if I'm a
- 5:44player because you're challenging me, and then when
- 5:47it's time for the challenge, you kind of cower back in your
- 5:51office and don't call us out on. So, that's how I look at it.
- 5:54This is and from a Fan's perspective, when he put out
- 5:58there that he wants to see who shows up.
- 6:02Then I want to see it, too, because I'm questioning certain
- 6:06players. I don't want to say, Occasion,
- 6:09but commitment to this program and actually getting us where we
- 6:15need to go and winning again. And it would have been another
- 6:21small test. Not the midterm, not the final
- 6:24exam, but it would have been a little bit of a pop quiz to see
- 6:28who actually posted because we were supposed to have practice
- 6:31because to me, you could have got the guys to show up for
- 6:34Tuesday because they had to anyway.
- 6:36But when they're out there in Ads and they wouldn't have been
- 6:39in pads, it would have been in there, you know, hats and
- 6:42shorts, you know, helmets who she is?
- 6:44Yeah, so you get them out there or you get them all ready to go
- 6:48out there and make sure, you know, hey guys, you did good
- 6:51job. We're just going to cancel this.
- 6:53We're just going to go to meeting room.
- 6:55You don't do it a day before hand so the players can't call
- 7:00your bluff. You do it that morning so you
- 7:02can then call them out or have the media called amount for the
- 7:07guys that didn't post. Because the guys that were on
- 7:09vacation in Bora Bora I think Antonio Gibson's taking his
- 7:12family to Hawaii. You know that to me is the way
- 7:16to do it. That was just the only issue I
- 7:18hack is I could care less if they are on the field or not.
- 7:21It's just Understanding the dedication from some of the guys
- 7:26that were not. There is what I got a project.
- 7:29Okay. So I see what you're saying.
- 7:30Hey, you said this was going to happen and you renege basically
- 7:35and now it makes you look weaker.
- 7:37But do you think that it makes in the players eyes and look
- 7:40weaker, or the outside media's eyes and look weaker?
- 7:44Because it may be in the players eyes.
- 7:45Do you think that, that maybe, you know, they are happy that
- 7:50the coach do that for them, you know?
- 7:52I'm sure looked happy and well and sometimes let's face it.
- 7:56They always say what a happy wife, happy life.
- 7:59Well maybe if you have a happy players, they will go.
- 8:02The extra mile for you. I don't know if I agree with
- 8:05that. Maybe we all saw how Club Jay
- 8:08worked out. His players were happy, they had
- 8:11ping pong tables. They were having a dance party.
- 8:14And we saw how that related to the field performance.
- 8:17I mean, you know, I just to me if I'm a player, it makes me not
- 8:24believe him, 100% in what he's saying and is he actually going
- 8:27to follow through on stuff? But I'm also happy that I'm not
- 8:31going to be running around potentially pulling a hamstring
- 8:34or getting dinged up before. I've got six weeks off with my
- 8:38family and I got to come back and report all over again for
- 8:40training camp so that to me is a good point.
- 8:43And what's the first day of training camp?
- 8:46First day of training camp. I want to say is the 27th but
- 8:49we'll get this land in a little bit so we can got some time.
- 8:53Yeah, we do. I was just saying, hey, in the
- 8:56back of our minds, the 27th, but the continued on sir, but before
- 9:01we get to training camp. So last, we talked Josh Harris
- 9:06met with the NFL finance committee.
- 9:09And good news is last night, I think they kind of went under
- 9:11the radar Ben Fisher from the sports Business Journal.
- 9:15Said, the NFL owners have been told to reserve July 20th and
- 9:20August 8th as dates for a possible special League.
- 9:24Meeting sources said that it's a strong sign, the league things
- 9:29they can get the Commander's deal to a final vote by one of
- 9:32those two days. And Harris actually changed the
- 9:39financing in his deal or agreed to change a financing in his
- 9:42deal last Wednesday when he met with the owners commute, which
- 9:46was apparently think the last major hurdle for getting the
- 9:50owners to vote and get this thing done.
- 9:54We talked about how there was a breakup fee and how it had to
- 9:57happen within either 60 to 90 days of that May 12th
- 10:02exclusivity agreement will the July date is 69 days for May
- 10:0712th and the August date is 88 days.
- 10:10So that being said, I mean, I'm not shocked that.
- 10:15That's kind of the time frame that we're thinking.
- 10:18All I know is, I plan on being in town and having some
- 10:22champagne and And hopefully no one in PG P d--'s hearing this.
- 10:27But meet me at FedEx field so we could all celebrate together.
- 10:30Well, there you have it. We will be meeting tailgated.
- 10:35Rally cap at the FedEx field when this is done to pop some
- 10:40bottles. You heard it here first, I'm
- 10:42just hoping the team's not listening but I mean we are
- 10:45close man because I was downtown at one of my favorite
- 10:49restaurants, grabbing some passes for Fourth of July thing.
- 10:53Okay? And one of the guys, As their,
- 10:54he's good friends with d.smith from players union and he sees
- 10:58me walk into my commanders gear. He's like, man, this thing that
- 11:01happening he's not sound as damn teams like, dude, it's
- 11:05happening. It's going to go through, we
- 11:08still have naysayers, huh? We do madurai to me, those
- 11:11people don't listen to the podcast, so I got to give him
- 11:13crap for not listening. Yeah.
- 11:15But there are still people that do listen and we get text
- 11:18messages on the hotline wondering.
- 11:20Hey, I don't know if this is going to go through.
- 11:22This is just a Another reason for you guys to believe you ever
- 11:27watch that on that, Ted lasso show just ended.
- 11:31Tell a soul show which one is Adam's Apple TV Ted lasso.
- 11:36He was a coach and he went out to Europe is actually it's
- 11:40pretty funny don't have don't have Apple TV so his saying was
- 11:44believed and he had kind of a sign over top in the locker room
- 11:48over time the coaches. All mmm.
- 11:50And you know without spoiling for people that haven't actually
- 11:52finished the finale it's just something that people kind of
- 11:55say and to me it's like all you commanders / W ft / Redskins
- 12:00fans These are two dates, that they're being told.
- 12:04These guys are going to get this done.
- 12:07This is happening in early, the other Seasons.
- 12:09Oh yeah. One way or the other and our
- 12:11first preseason game is August 11th.
- 12:14So, I don't think it's a shocker that these dates are happening,
- 12:19right then? Brother, when it happens.
- 12:24I like you be very, very happy. I can't even put it into words,
- 12:30man. Just let it happen.
- 12:32We know it's going to happen. Just let it happen and I for one
- 12:36will be just flabbergasted. I can't wait.
- 12:40I can't wait. Well, this is actually a quote
- 12:43from Ron Rivera talking about what it would mean to get this
- 12:45done before training camp which is the 27th of July.
- 12:49Hmm? Going?
- 12:50Back to the cell. How much would it help to have
- 12:53that settled by the time training camp, begins?
- 12:58I think it helped a lot. I mean, there are still some
- 13:00things that we've got it. We've got to be able to move on
- 13:02from and and, and, and have decided on.
- 13:06And so that's just the biggest part of it is just, you know,
- 13:08being able to get all those other little details taken care
- 13:10of that, we need to have they taken care of.
- 13:13So that's, that's a big part of it for us, time when
- 13:19everything's on hold. Like the contract talks student
- 13:22can use, I know you can. But have you guys still been in
- 13:26contact with agents to gauge kind of what?
- 13:29Well what we try to do more than anything else?
- 13:30Just kind of let everybody know exactly what you said.
- 13:32We're kind of on hold, you know, and and you know and just being
- 13:37able to let those people know that.
- 13:38Hey, you guys just a matter of time, you know, we've got to go
- 13:41through this, you know, we've got to be able to present the
- 13:44plan to the ownership and, you know, they've got to be in
- 13:48agreement with a to I mean we can't go on until we get a
- 13:50chance. To explain to them, exactly what
- 13:52our thoughts and ideas are and whether they agree or disagree,
- 13:55I mean, that's that's going to be very important to be able to,
- 13:59you know, to get those kind of answers.
- 14:01Going forward to help this organization or anything else.
- 14:04This really is about making sure we're in the right position,
- 14:06going forward more than anything else.
- 14:12We could be there and have this thing done.
- 14:15And hopefully maybe get some of these contract disputes or
- 14:18possible extensions out of the way.
- 14:20Because we all heard cam curl talk about how he just wants to
- 14:24be here with his guys and he's healthy.
- 14:27He didn't really do anything during you know, many Camp and
- 14:30all that fun stuff. What's he going to do during
- 14:32training camp? Is he actually going to
- 14:33participate or is he going to try and look out for him and
- 14:37then just do stuff on the side once they're done with
- 14:39individuals, I'll be curious to see what happens.
- 14:41But man, we are so close to almost being out of limbo and I
- 14:46just I hope, you know, on top of the fact that All the different
- 14:51special stuff. They're doing for training camp
- 14:53for fans, we get a chance to see these owners see what kind of
- 14:56commitment they have to these existing players that are on
- 14:59this roster. So, okay, let's let's let's play
- 15:03a little game. You're the reals group, your,
- 15:05the rails group. And, you know, the hairs group
- 15:08hairs rails group, and, you know, that there are players
- 15:11that you want to sign I'm hoping as an owner right now, you're
- 15:15doing your due diligence on hypothetically Cam and you say,
- 15:20hey man, this guy looks really good and we, he's asking for
- 15:24hypothetically, let's just say five million dollars, this
- 15:26hypothetical, okay? Just have to just do a number.
- 15:29He has 45 million dollars. Do you go ahead and and, and you
- 15:35feel it is though, they are talking about this right now or
- 15:39you feel that they're waiting to make sure that everything goes
- 15:42through. I think that they got to be
- 15:44talking about this. Now, you know, it's like you're
- 15:47about to buy a house, right? Everything is going through, but
- 15:51your closing isn't there yet. You're already planning what
- 15:54furniture. You're going to get your
- 15:56thinking about what Grill, you're going to stick in the
- 15:58backyard. You already prepping to move in.
- 16:01You maybe not buying it yet but you're doing your research,
- 16:05you're looking stuff up, you're making sure you're ready to go
- 16:07and you can hit the ground running so you can have that
- 16:09housewarming party and then have that big old barbecue in the
- 16:12backyard. Whatever it is.
- 16:14So to me it's the same thing with these guys and it's not
- 16:17their first sports franchise that they're going to be
- 16:19running. So I hope and pray that they're
- 16:23competent and that they're going with outside recommendations.
- 16:27There are a ton of Consultants out there.
- 16:28What was it? A Scott McClellan.
- 16:31I was a consultant before he came here.
- 16:33Joe Drew was a consultant for the Rams last year.
- 16:36You know. They could be reaching out to
- 16:38guys like that. I don't want to use guys that
- 16:40have past history with the franchise, but just as an
- 16:43example to try, not to see what they should do.
- 16:47Because cams contract, he's still under contract but he
- 16:52wants to get paid and he should get paid and they should make it
- 16:55a priority. It's a lock him up before just
- 16:58like the team did with Terry last off.
- 17:01Season right before training camp.
- 17:02So you know he's going to be here.
- 17:06Definitely, definitely, I'm hoping that like you said that
- 17:11they are doing our due diligence and they are hypothetically
- 17:14shopping on Amazon, putting everything in the queue.
- 17:16So so when things happen, they can just hit send and and it's a
- 17:19done deal because I was everybody man.
- 17:25We don't want those that are right, and I hope I have one
- 17:36thing to the car and it says you've got 18 things, ready?
- 17:39It's like what are you talking about?
- 17:42She just saved stuff in the cart and then one time I accidentally
- 17:45hit by and then all of it got sent.
- 17:48So I had to cancel the order. But you know what for these
- 17:51guys? I'm hoping they're ready to go,
- 17:53they're ready to buy, they've got the money to pay these guys.
- 17:57So we should be good. But one of the guys that I'm a
- 18:01little curious about on what they're going to do, because it
- 18:04came out recently. Italy and granted.
- 18:07This was from a kind of a Steelers SB Nation.
- 18:12Blog talking about Chase, Young trade, rumors and Bleacher
- 18:18Report. Put another article out their
- 18:21potential spots for Chase young to go in a trade.
- 18:24Basically, once we did an exercise their fifth, his fifth
- 18:27year option. People were thinking maybe we
- 18:29can trade for this guy jumps in the water.
- 18:32Yeah, hmm. It depends on what we what we
- 18:37get for them. I mean, I always say Players
- 18:43come and go coaches. Come and go, you know?
- 18:46So this wouldn't be any any different and I think we are
- 18:51tied to chase because a homegrown be he had a good
- 18:57rookie season and and we're kind of still in that.
- 19:02What if with him? You know what?
- 19:05If he has a great year and we don't want to trade him,
- 19:08somebody need any balls out like so many people have done with
- 19:11our Ation that we've gotten rid of them and they've gone to
- 19:14another team bought out. So there's all these, what if
- 19:17factors are going on, and at some point, I'm you gotta put
- 19:21that away in. Look at it apples and oranges
- 19:25and go from there. So, to answer your question,
- 19:30What are we getting for point-blank?
- 19:33Typically when you're trying to trade someone like, this is
- 19:36value is less because you decided not to exercise his
- 19:40option. So if a team picks him up, they
- 19:43don't have control over him next season and if he does ball out,
- 19:46then they'd have to franchise tag.
- 19:48Mm or extend him for offer him a contract extension for hits
- 19:51market. So his value isn't as much as it
- 19:55should be, even though he was a Defensive Rookie of the Year in
- 19:582020, he's only Had one and a half sacks.
- 20:02Since then, he played nine games hasn't done, it's hot.
- 20:05So his value was probably around a fourth-round pick fifth-round
- 20:09pick and that's being generous. So, today to that, I say, no, I
- 20:15say, I say no because at this point, let's go ahead and roll
- 20:18the dice. And if he balls out which
- 20:23everyone believes that he will, then pay the man, if not, then
- 20:28you up to stray value to get more from him.
- 20:31So, you know, we're in a good position right now.
- 20:33I feel as far as a whole Chase young is concerned.
- 20:36Yeah, I don't know if I believe that he's going to ball out
- 20:39because he hasn't showed me that he can do that consistently.
- 20:45He hasn't proven to me that he is that Defensive Rookie of the
- 20:49Year and we'll have to wait and see what he does.
- 20:53I'm looking forward to him proving all the doubters wrong,
- 20:57and I'm concerned that the Ship between Chase.
- 21:01And this team is damaged to the point of it may not be able to
- 21:05be repaired and if he does ball out, he's going to go because he
- 21:11doesn't like how we treated them.
- 21:14To me, part of the issue is you've got to coach that is also
- 21:20the head of personnel. And we always say, your coach is
- 21:24focused on right now, game-by-game.
- 21:29Not long term. If Rivera were to trade for him
- 21:33and we were only going to get draft picks that we can't even
- 21:35use. Because a draft is done.
- 21:37It wouldn't happen till next year.
- 21:39Rivera, most likely isn't coaching this team next year.
- 21:41So what does he give a damn about?
- 21:44Yeah, we're getting a draft pick.
- 21:46So he needs the best chase that he can possibly get, and that
- 21:51young man has got to ball out like the Ron did if he wants to
- 21:54get paid. So I'm with you.
- 21:58Don't you think that there's going to be extra motivation for
- 22:01him to be able to do that? I think there is I would agree
- 22:05with you in a normal scenario, but I don't think this is a
- 22:10normal scenario, because to me, extra motivation, would have
- 22:15been you don't take my fifth year option.
- 22:18I'm going to be involuntary workouts to show you what you're
- 22:22missing and I get that they're not going crazy but I'm going to
- 22:25be there to prove you wrong. You, you're questioning my
- 22:29maturity and my dedication to a degree.
- 22:32Well you know what? I'm going to prove you wrong and
- 22:33Did not do that. He was out in Colorado doing
- 22:37stuff out there. He wasn't with his teammates
- 22:39cams curl for example to me did it right doron pain.
- 22:44Last year, had an issue with his contract.
- 22:48Did it, right? He still showed up Chase in my
- 22:51opinion. Really?
- 22:52Yeah begrudgingly. He still showed up.
- 22:54Yeah, but he did everything he needed to and then when it came
- 22:57down to team workouts, He was on the side for you doing this
- 23:01stuff that to me, is why Chase is not showing me personally,
- 23:05and this is just tailgates opinion, but not showing me that
- 23:08he is worth and going to actually ball out and do what he
- 23:11needs to do because he's not there getting tutelage from Ryan
- 23:14cared from Jeff's kanina to even be around his teammates, you
- 23:19know, Phil Mathis, got hurt first game last year, Phil's
- 23:23gonna be landing up beside him. At plays, wouldn't you want to
- 23:26get a chance to get to actually see how he handles difference?
- 23:29Mario's, and I get, it's just a couple of days in Spring.
- 23:35Yeah, to me, man. It's just, it's that camaraderie
- 23:38that you're not building with your team that cam Carl was
- 23:41doing so. So what happens if what happens
- 23:44if in the media's eyes, I don't say anything to you.
- 23:48But behind the scenes I'm saying, Hey guys, you're my
- 23:51guys. And I'm going to be there when I
- 23:55get back from training, my New Year, whatever The Insider
- 23:58scoop. The deal.
- 23:59I'm in half with each other, you know.
- 24:02So I hear what you're saying but what happens if the camaraderie
- 24:05and the Brotherhood has already been built and I've already
- 24:07talked to you and I could care less about what people outside.
- 24:12People see, I've already talked to you.
- 24:13You're my man Ted and you know secrets about me as well as I
- 24:16know things about you that the general public doesn't know.
- 24:19So because of that, screw everybody else thinks, what do
- 24:23you think about me, one-on-one, and I'd go for, I go to bat for
- 24:27you as well as you I believe you go to Bat for me.
- 24:30So screw it. Everybody has a stake because
- 24:33when it comes down to it, I've already talked to you guys.
- 24:35I've already said hey man, I'm going to be out doing this that
- 24:38and the other but when it comes down to, it comes down to it.
- 24:41I'm here for you guys. I'll be there just Bank on it.
- 24:45Just just don't let don't let the outside noise fool.
- 24:48You I'm here for you guys. I don't think his teammates are
- 24:51gonna question him because the click can easily be on the other
- 24:55foot and they can be in that situation.
- 24:57So I don't think they would ever publicly.
- 24:59Say anything. But to me actions speak louder
- 25:02than words. What are your actions?
- 25:06And he's Rollin the sideline, running up and down when he
- 25:10wasn't able to play, and even when he was able to come back,
- 25:13but his actions were not that of the second pick in the NFL
- 25:18draft. And he needs to prove it, he
- 25:21needs to prove, he's worthy of it, and I'm not saying that he
- 25:24does need approval. What I'm saying is Prior to
- 25:28Camp. What if he had a meeting with
- 25:32this teammates and said, hey guys, I'm going to be in
- 25:35Colorado. Doing more work on this knee to
- 25:39come back to help you guys out me being with you guys right
- 25:42now. Is it helping the team?
- 25:43Yeah, it looks good, but it's not going to help a team.
- 25:46That's going to help the team as meet continuing to get this
- 25:48rehab that I need for when it really comes down to the Blood
- 25:52Sweat, and Tears of this and right now, you know, Screw the
- 25:54outside noise, I'm talking to my boys, right?
- 25:57Now you guys understand where I'm coming from, right, right,
- 25:59right. Yeah, Chase.
- 26:00We got you, man. We understand.
- 26:01Do what you got to do to get yourself together because we
- 26:03want, we want the real, you not the studio, you so to speak.
- 26:07So what if he said that already, and we saw not, if he did say
- 26:11that, his teammates aren't going to say, no, that ain't cool.
- 26:14His teammates are going to call him out.
- 26:15Be like, no, you got to be here with the rest of us.
- 26:18My clothes, do it behind closed doors.
- 26:19You don't know. Bro.
- 26:21I don't think so, man. I realize I really don't think
- 26:23that they're going to call him out.
- 26:24Be like, no, you gotta show up. I don't think John Allen is Is
- 26:27going to tell chase. You got to be here for voluntary
- 26:30workouts. So how do I say this?
- 26:32He's an adult. Okay, how about this?
- 26:35Hey, and I'm going to try to get my best.
- 26:37John Allen voice going. Hey Chase.
- 26:40I really would like you to show up, but I understand if you
- 26:42can't show up, you're a man, just like I am.
- 26:44But hey man just you know if you could we appreciate it cause we
- 26:49really would like to see you and it would it would quite all that
- 26:52noise but I understand, you're not.
- 26:53But if what you're still my boy, how about that?
- 26:55I there goes that. Was that okay?
- 26:57I'm gonna cut this something that's weird.
- 26:58The job I hear you man, to me. It's just you talk about
- 27:05quieting. The noise I am sure.
- 27:07They were tired of being asked, two questions stuff about Dan
- 27:12Snyder on the sale of this team. Yeah and Chase they just want
- 27:17off the field stuff to just go away and just focus on the field
- 27:21and speaking of which No, we're actually Rigo's raghad an
- 27:26article that they posted. Those of you out there that
- 27:28listen to this show. I'm sure you probably are
- 27:32familiar with this site. They got a bunch of great
- 27:34content, but in this article and I was wrong, I did not think the
- 27:39team was going to be able to sign Durante and John out, I
- 27:43still don't think they should have signed their own pain, but
- 27:47the fact is they did. It's just a lot of money next
- 27:51year at the defensive tackle position.
- 27:53I think We're talking close to 60 million dollars, but in this
- 27:57article Rigo's rag, it actually talks about.
- 28:00Can the team afford assuming these guys ball out to keep
- 28:05Chase young and Montez sweat. And dumping into the details, it
- 28:12actually says, because of all the rookie deals that we've got
- 28:16going on, because what is it? Because Sam?
- 28:20How is so young because Jehan Datsun Sgt, Brian Robinson is so
- 28:25young, that they actually have the ability if they wanted to to
- 28:30sign sweat and sign young looking at the cap numbers.
- 28:35Next season, based upon this, including one else's contract.
- 28:41They say that the team will have 83 million dollars to spend next
- 28:47year. And that's including
- 28:50potentially, giving cam curl, a contract extension for about 13
- 28:53million dollars of season. Knowing that they've got that 83
- 28:58million dollars. And if they extend those guys,
- 29:01the new ownership would still have roughly 30 million dollars
- 29:04in cap space to sign other guys. So Chase balls, Montes balls.
- 29:10Either you got a franchise one and you give the other one, a
- 29:13contract extension, they're saying you'll have 30 million
- 29:16dollars in space would rally caps.
- 29:20The new GM for Josh. Harris offer these two guys, a
- 29:27long-term deal to stick around and burgundy and gold.
- 29:29Go. really Captain would always love for the guys stick around
- 29:35the burgundy and go but I got to take my rally Captain hat off
- 29:38and go with management management says well we just
- 29:43signed a stud defensive in from Clemson so I think that I'm
- 29:51going to go with more Youth and see what I can get on the wire
- 29:57for one of these guys don't know which one but we're going to
- 30:00just See what we can get on the wire to see what we can do, and
- 30:04go from there. Let's be real.
- 30:06You can't get anything for him because they're free agents.
- 30:08So they just walk at that point and you would get a compensatory
- 30:13pick. I believe.
- 30:14Actually, I don't even think you got compensatory pick, but
- 30:18they're just gone. They're not here.
- 30:19And for the record I agree with you.
- 30:22I would rather take that 83 million dollars.
- 30:26And use that on other positions of this team to me.
- 30:31We have not addressed the biggest question.
- 30:35Okay, second, the third biggest question for this team,
- 30:40offensive line. You are still super weak at left
- 30:44guard. Yeah, you gotta do something
- 30:46about that. Position is negates going to be
- 30:49your solution of Center. We got to stop shopping in The
- 30:53Bargain Basket for lineman if we really want this team to
- 30:58actually do something on the offensive side, you talked about
- 31:00Eric, be enemies offense getting is 10 extra points a season.
- 31:04Now, thing is going to happen with this offensive line, and I
- 31:07want us to invest in, not just for position players on that
- 31:12field. We gotta spread the wealth
- 31:13around a little bit Well, we know that it is coming,
- 31:19eventually it Bentley it's going to happen.
- 31:23Like I said it may not happen tomorrow but eventually it
- 31:26brother, it is going to happen and and I think that the whole
- 31:31thing behind be enemies offense is you're going to see a lot of
- 31:34movements which is going to be able to, okay, it's going to
- 31:38lose, I believe, kind of like how we had an in depth line with
- 31:43RG3 was here but our Three made the line, look a little bit
- 31:46better because of his Mobility. Let's not forget Sam is mobile.
- 31:51He really is. And so that's going to help a
- 31:54lot. Not taking away.
- 31:56The fact that we still need the Lyman, but I think that they're
- 31:59seeing that, okay? We're going to put him in motion
- 32:01a lot, we're going to do some other things to get the ball out
- 32:04of his hand quicker. So that the line necessarily
- 32:08won't be as bad as we know, or as porous as it was last year.
- 32:14I don't think it'll be as bad. Because if I'm hoping it won't
- 32:18be and no, I mean, the movement we're just talking about
- 32:21receivers tight end running backs to me, a lot of the
- 32:25problems were right up the middle.
- 32:27I don't know how many times we saw Andrew Norwell.
- 32:29Look like he was on Rollerblades.
- 32:31It just went right back in the Carson or right back in a tailor
- 32:34and Taylor could scramble to Taylor, had the ability to still
- 32:37get out of those things, and he just didn't have the arm to be
- 32:40able to make some of the throws once he scrambled, or he threw
- 32:43the ball down the field with his eyes closed, but you I would
- 32:48just like a better. I mean, this team is famous for
- 32:52its offensive line, right? The NFL has made its rules to
- 32:56the point of it, favors the offense, if you can actually
- 33:00give those wide receivers a couple of seconds to get down
- 33:03the field. And when their routes, that DB
- 33:06is going to hold you, you're going to get pie.
- 33:09But if Sam doesn't happen time, whoever it is to actually get
- 33:13that ball down the field because we know he's got the arm that
- 33:16doesn't matter. Her.
- 33:17And that's what I want us to actually focus on because this
- 33:20is all assuming that Sam is the guy and he's going to be able to
- 33:23do what he needs to do. We'll wait and see one of the
- 33:28questions though was did Howell show enough to run and EB that
- 33:35he should be the starter going into training camp and this is
- 33:38what Ron said did Sam show you enough?
- 33:40Three men came to kind of keep this qb1 spot for now going into
- 33:44camp. And is that, you know, kind of a
- 33:46plan. Yeah.
- 33:46He's pretty much shown us what we want to see.
- 33:48I mean again he's young, we know he's young, he's a second-year
- 33:52player, you know, got an opportunity start last year but
- 33:55there's a lot of room for growth and we know that but he's got a
- 33:58good skill set you know he's mobile he's got good foot
- 34:01movements got quick, twitch stream, good decision maker,
- 34:05very still learning to make those decisions but he's also
- 34:07got the arm talent. And that's the thing that you
- 34:09know that excites us Chris a I know he's not gonna say anything
- 34:16else. I mean he has said that it's
- 34:19going to be a competition so you know he do you do you really
- 34:23believe that? Do you know, he's gotta say, he
- 34:27doesn't have to say it but he's got to know in his head that
- 34:31it's Sam's job. And according to people that
- 34:34were out there reporters fans, I was out there.
- 34:38Brissette had a lot of check towns.
- 34:40They basically, I think it was a, the Beltway All pod kind of
- 34:44equated, Jacoby Brissette to Alex Smith, he's chucking the
- 34:48ball, not chucking it, but like dinking, and dunking it down the
- 34:51field and hitting the little flat guys, and the running back
- 34:55stuff like that. Nothing really said the safer,
- 34:57the safest route and to me, that's not what I want to see.
- 35:02I want to see the enemies all things.
- 35:04I want to see some other guys, get actually leveraged here and
- 35:07go down the field. Now, when you're going against
- 35:11your own teammates, You know, let's make up not make up a.
- 35:15Let's actually try and gamble a little bit here and see if we
- 35:19can make those throws when we're not doing against on the team
- 35:22and we're still shooting blanks. We're not using live rounds if
- 35:25you will. Yeah, so it's got to be how and
- 35:29I'm happy that Ron said that because there's not enough balls
- 35:33to go around. There's not enough reps to go
- 35:35around during training camp to have those guys split drills
- 35:40with the ones to my knowledge. How's the only one that actually
- 35:44had reps with the ones? Jacoby didn't so I'm actually
- 35:48happy that Ron said this for a change, usually pisses me off
- 35:52when he talks but hey, this time I pat on the back.
- 35:56No, look out yells. There's there's a one up for
- 35:59potato and Ron. Let me the Bromance has begun.
- 36:02Let me find out there. He's part of Filipino.
- 36:04So I feel bad. You know?
- 36:05Not being his friend if you will but he's got to earn it.
- 36:10All right. Okay.
- 36:11Well I feel that, you know, we're in this position because
- 36:17how did show enough for the one preseason game and obviously the
- 36:22last game of the season and let's face it, it's mini camp.
- 36:29It's minicamp. I want you to make all the
- 36:33mistakes that you can make right now you know right now this is
- 36:38the time to do it all. But at the same time, still show
- 36:41me what you can do. You know when the time comes are
- 36:45you really? Are you saying what I need you
- 36:47to see? Are you seeing you know when
- 36:49that linebacker does this? What's your read is long as he's
- 36:53doing that and he may be throwing some fix whatever have
- 36:57you? I'm okay with it.
- 36:59Right now, like you said, it means nothing.
- 37:03But what are you doing, right? And that's what I want to focus
- 37:07on. And as far as versed is
- 37:09concerned, if he is, one of the things if he is doing check
- 37:14down. One of the things that we hated
- 37:15his fans with Alex Smith is God, dang it, man.
- 37:18Those are ball down. The field is and he had an arm
- 37:20to be able to do it. And one thing I've seen, I've
- 37:23seen forceps arm, he has an arm, but why do the check down?
- 37:27Is it something that you're not seeing?
- 37:29Sure yet and maybe the coaches can go back into the film room
- 37:32and bring that up to him and say, why didn't you throw the
- 37:35ball? You know, down here but we win
- 37:38Brissette was with Cleveland. He did the kind of the same
- 37:41thing. So this isn't anything new per
- 37:44se. Yeah.
- 37:46And for me it's like comparing it to Kirk Cousins that playoff
- 37:54game that he had I was was it against a Giant's was that the
- 37:57last game he had and it was fourth down.
- 38:03He needed to go. I want to say maybe it was seven
- 38:05or eight yards any through his shit. 15 16?
- 38:10Yeah, he threw you through a check down.
- 38:13You don't even try and get it to the sticks or pass the sticks.
- 38:16It's like it a yard. Yeah.
- 38:17It doesn't even count right now. This is mini cam.
- 38:21Let's throw the freaking ball. Let's see if you can actually
- 38:25tell me that you know, where to go in this offense.
- 38:27And part of it is you know, you're going against other
- 38:32offensive players that aren't even playing defense.
- 38:35They're literally just standing there and holding a spot on the
- 38:38field and you're throwing a dump pass to a running back.
- 38:42So I am happy to see that he's not going to be wasting Reps for
- 38:46the ones that how is not going to get.
- 38:48I'm happy to see that. Least, as of now, You know,
- 38:52they're going to get a chance to give Sam everything you needs to
- 38:55succeed and the team did announce that we were off by a
- 39:01couple of days that training camp is going to start on July
- 39:0427. So can't wait I'm right there
- 39:08with you man and we mentioned it last week on the Pod that there
- 39:12is no Lottery. All you have to do is go sign up
- 39:15on the team's website. It is Commanders .com/briowfc.
- 39:21Training Dash Camp just type in training.
- 39:23Camp commanders. It'll pop up but the good news
- 39:26is doesn't cost a single thing to go.
- 39:29There was no Lottery, right. The parking is free, but there
- 39:35are some caveats with that. Sure, here's the question that
- 39:39I've always has that I've always had and I need to ask.
- 39:44Why do I have to sign up and get a ticket if it's free?
- 39:47Why can't you as an organization have A couple of the counters,
- 39:54the spinning counter that you picking will walk through to see
- 39:57exactly how many people showed up versus.
- 39:59Why do I have to go online and do anything?
- 40:02If it's free. So I'll tell you.
- 40:03Okay, okay, let's just bring it to me.
- 40:05I want to hear this. They want to know how much staff
- 40:08they need for those days. They know there's going to be
- 40:11some attrition. They want to know, do we need to
- 40:14Triple security? Do we need to get more
- 40:17merchandise in the merch tent? Do we need to tell the food
- 40:20trucks that are going to be out? Out there to prepare for 10,000.
- 40:23People versus two thousand people, that's really why it's
- 40:27the same thing at the stadium when they've had different free
- 40:29stuff there. I did all that and I'm not
- 40:33coming. There's some people, some people
- 40:36would do it just to do it. Okay.
- 40:38But how about this plan? For the worst of the worst, just
- 40:42probably agree with you. Bring what bring?
- 40:43What you, you know. See, here's the issue that I
- 40:46have. All right?
- 40:48And money, Mira, I love this team and I love the
- 40:50organization. So so anybody if that's screw
- 40:53you, the fact of the matter is this your first time in Ashburn
- 40:56at you? What at the first time, but
- 40:58under the new regime that you're allowing everyone to come, we
- 41:03saw what happens when You say, nope, you can't come to this or
- 41:07it's private, we saw what happened.
- 41:09So now you're opening it up to everyone the end because you're
- 41:12opening it up to everyone, then prepare for everyone, I get you
- 41:17man. Okay, they want to make sure
- 41:18they got 2,000 cheese steaks or they got two thousand shirts
- 41:23would I get you? But how about this?
- 41:25Have it there anyway? Have it there anyway, because we
- 41:29were what happens if they you said that 2000.
- 41:34You know, our there's you always plan just like the tailgate, the
- 41:37tell he doesn't cost any money to show up, right?
- 41:40I get people that sign up, I don't charge anything, we just
- 41:43ask for a donation. I know that 30 percent of those
- 41:47people are not going to show love Dino.
- 41:51Yeah, they're just not going to post.
- 41:52I know that if it's going to be a raining game that the people
- 41:55that are going to show up are going to show up late.
- 41:57So I just know in my head not to buy enough food for everyone
- 42:01showing up and I'm actually looking Young at the waiver
- 42:05where you've got to sign it up right now.
- 42:07It would not surprise me if part of your information was being
- 42:12given to sponsors. Mmm to me, what is power is
- 42:19information nowadays. So getting to have Joe Blow
- 42:24fans, email address and phone number to then sell that to
- 42:29potential sponsors. So then say hey SeatGeek, you're
- 42:33handling. Of our ticketing is, I'm sure
- 42:36you're getting the email. Just like I am all the SeatGeek
- 42:39crap that I get. Now for different events, but I
- 42:41have no desire to go to don't want it.
- 42:45Yeah, but you're gonna get it because that's who handles all
- 42:48the commands ticketing and that's who's handling the
- 42:51ticketing for training camp. So, because of that, that's why
- 42:55they want you to sign up to because the agreement was
- 42:57SeatGeek. They're getting your information
- 42:59man. So you sold her brother's
- 43:01information Day. Yeah, I bet join us.
- 43:07I'm gonna say that's also another reason but I just I do
- 43:10know for a fact that they want to make sure that they just have
- 43:14the right staff. And what I talked to the team
- 43:16last year, they didn't think that they were going to have as
- 43:20many fans that wanted to come out to training camp as they did
- 43:23and they were wrong, it blew up in their face.
- 43:26This whole Lottery system. So now Well, one thing that we
- 43:31also know is, if you say you can't come people will bitch and
- 43:35moan and say I really wanted to come and do we have a plan that
- 43:37they have a plan to come anyway? But I think that that this is a
- 43:41new day with with the with the dies are coming to an end and so
- 43:46many people wanting to come back and I get it, it's during the
- 43:50day. But that said, how about this?
- 43:52That's Saturday. Oh, you better had everybody on
- 43:56deck that that opening practice on Saturday.
- 44:00You better bring everybody because there I see I see a lot
- 44:04of people showing up and even the first day people want to be
- 44:08involved and and God forbid if by chance they are selected for
- 44:15Hard Knocks. Need I say more I hope to God
- 44:19we're not I actually wanted to get your feedback on that and
- 44:23kind of your opinion. Do you think would you be okay?
- 44:26But for those that don't know, hard knocks has three rules.
- 44:31A team doesn't have to be on the show if any of these apply with
- 44:34them, if they have a first-year head coach in place, if they
- 44:39have a playoff berth in the past two seasons, Or they have
- 44:43appeared on Hard Knocks in the past 10 years.
- 44:46We haven't had any of those are playoff was in 2020 so that
- 44:50doesn't count. So there are only four teams in
- 44:53the NFL can force to be on Hard Knocks.
- 44:58The New Orleans Saints, the Chicago Bears, the New York Jets
- 45:03or the washing the Commanders. I don't want us to be on Hard
- 45:08Knocks this year. I don't want the extra noise.
- 45:13I don't want all those cameras there and guys faces and us
- 45:17being Another headline for something that was said during a
- 45:22hard knocks episode versus how the guys actually played in
- 45:26practice. That's just me.
- 45:27I know fans and a lot of people would actually love it, but I
- 45:31want them to focus on football for a change and not deal with
- 45:35the cameras in their face. Curious what you think.
- 45:40Well, Ted, I gotta tell ya, I disagree with you, bro.
- 45:44I think that it would actually be a good look for the
- 45:48organization if you will our Redemption story or a different
- 45:53piece rather, I think that players have cameras put in
- 45:57their faces all the time. I mean, we pay these guys to be
- 46:02professional athletes to to give that they've got to give
- 46:05interviews so many interviews all week, they have to do it.
- 46:08So this just to me, isn't anything?
- 46:10NG any different than any other week except for its premiere on
- 46:16Hard Knocks but the NFL is bigger than HBO.
- 46:19So they're used to having cameras on them at any given
- 46:24time and any part of the day you don't know what Paparazzi is
- 46:29following them around. There's always somebody doing
- 46:31something. So I say no I say hey man, let
- 46:35it happen, let it happen, Let It Be organic and and let them.
- 46:40Joe Washington in a good light because what we always know is
- 46:44Hard Knocks will give you a little bit of a bad teaser but
- 46:48they will always make the NFL product look good and I see that
- 46:53it could be a good look it could be a Redemption story.
- 46:57So they partner with the NFL, the NFL is not going to partner
- 47:01with them if they're just going to show this function.
- 47:04So they're going to put a spin on things and you know, in the
- 47:07end it's going to be a happy ending but I don't agree with
- 47:11you with the fact that the cameras were always on because
- 47:13during practice, whether it's Camp, many or training, or what
- 47:18the media cannot film all of it, when they go to Team drilled and
- 47:22certain portions of it, they can't have their cameras on the
- 47:25only cameras other. There are the teams cameras we
- 47:28talked about it. Last week how you know, on the
- 47:31Twitter feed, you see John Dodson or do you have any brown
- 47:34catching a bomb from Sam? They're not showing you the wide
- 47:37shot where there was no one there.
- 47:39He was just The ball and there was a point in cash, you know.
- 47:42So that it's a little bit of a different story, from that side
- 47:45of things and if this was going into year, one of Harris owning
- 47:53the team and we could get this thing done properly then I'm for
- 47:58it. Let's bring the cameras out
- 48:00because then we can really see the fans coming back out in
- 48:03droves. I still have trepidation of the
- 48:08existing regime. Dotting, the eyes and crossing
- 48:13the t's, they've gotten too many things wrong since I've been in
- 48:18place talking about the training camp Fiasco.
- 48:21Last year, talking about some of the Sean Taylor stuff is
- 48:24happening. Misspelling players names,
- 48:27getting the dates wrong on your Crest.
- 48:30I have concerns that those simple blocking, and tackling
- 48:35things would get highlighted on an episode of hardened things
- 48:40that we know. Happen here but the rest of the
- 48:42world doesn't so I would rather it be a year from now when
- 48:47Harris and rails and magic and all the guys got a chance to
- 48:51iron out and kick out some of the bad eggs if you will.
- 48:55And then we actually look our best because Training Camps on
- 48:59the 27th. These guys don't take over
- 49:01potentially until August 8th. Heaven Help Us.
- 49:08Okay. Alright.
- 49:09When you mention it like that or you put it that way, okay, I got
- 49:13you but I still feel it would be a good thing and yeah you're
- 49:17right. Maybe if we have a spot check Ur
- 49:23you know they can check to make sure that no one's name is
- 49:28misspelled because the same thing could happen under the new
- 49:31group, it cleared her care. I was just, I think what was it
- 49:35last year or the year before? I think they just put commanders
- 49:39on the back of everybody's Jersey or Team on the back of
- 49:41everybody's Jersey commands that way.
- 49:43You know you're not going to spell it wrong, you know.
- 49:47So you know. Wow.
- 49:51Oh man. Well, hey brother, we're going
- 49:53to see what happens and and time isn't on our side it really is
- 49:58it. So time will tell hey I hear the
- 50:01music in the background was less.
- 50:03Me know that that's going to bring the another episode of the
- 50:06DMV mess hall to a close here. Gated rally Captain you guys
- 50:11man. You guys.
- 50:13Thank you for listening. Remember you rep?
- 50:16It hard are you don't wrap it at all.
- 50:20Rally Captain tailgate it or out.