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Jayson Werth’s Derby horse, Mets fan trolling, 2B rule hatred · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I think it's by like leadership in the humanity of
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  Speaker 1: the sport.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck math, the totally version of trying to ruin
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  Speaker 2: the sport. All right.
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  Speaker 3: We are joined now live by Jason Worth, who is
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of the stables there I believe at
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  Speaker 3: Churchill Downs because that's where he's going to be this
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  Speaker 3: upcoming weekend. Jason, great to be with you and we
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  Speaker 3: are going to talk a little baseball with you. But
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk about your horse first. This is cool.
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  Speaker 3: This is really cool for me to talk about talk
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  Speaker 3: about now. Is that mohawk right there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm he's being he's being extra dentle
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  Speaker 2: in ice right now. Usually he's trying to bite me,
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  Speaker 2: so we're getting at the side of that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: get to see him. Maybe it's you guys.
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  Speaker 4: How did you come up with the names and these horses?
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  Speaker 5: That has to be I know, like when you go
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  Speaker 5: hunting and people have less and Jim told me to
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  Speaker 5: talk about this all the time. The best part was
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  Speaker 5: coming up with the names of the deer, right, So,
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  Speaker 5: how do you come up with the names.
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  Speaker 4: Of a horse? Because horses don't have mohawks, really do they.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best. It's the best part of of the
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  Speaker 2: sport other than the horses and the people. Uh naming
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  Speaker 2: the name of the horses big so Uh, Mohawk's dad
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  Speaker 2: was Kiara Kanti Kiera Kanti is a is a literally
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  Speaker 2: in the Mohawk language that means like flying son or
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  Speaker 2: something like that. So, uh, we named him flying flying Mohawk.
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  Speaker 2: Why why not?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it don't matter what you name it.
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  Speaker 2: If he if he wins, it'll it'll be famous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it matters.
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  Speaker 6: A name, A name matters. It makes you go faster.
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  Speaker 6: But do you did you get into horse did you
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  Speaker 6: get into this horse racing stuff? You said, the people
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  Speaker 6: that you hang out with so that you could feel
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  Speaker 6: like a minor leaguer because everywhere else you go you're
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  Speaker 6: a big leaguer. But when you hang out with other
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  Speaker 6: people that have like big.
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  Speaker 4: Time real cheese.
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  Speaker 6: You're kind of like, ah, you're you're you're kind of
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  Speaker 6: the minor your triple A guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we're small fries over here, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: sport of kings, right, so we're we're compete at the
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  Speaker 2: highest level. Uh. But you know, just like just like
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  Speaker 2: in baseball, when you get drafted don't matter if your
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  Speaker 2: first rounder or a fiftieth rounder. Once you get on
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  Speaker 2: the field, no one cares what round you're you're you're
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  Speaker 2: drafted in, or what you know where you're from. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's all equals. So uh, the big the big dogs,
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  Speaker 2: they spent a lot of money, you know, and guys
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  Speaker 2: like me, we uh, we're just we're just you know,
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  Speaker 2: clinging on for the experience and we've been lucky two
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  Speaker 2: years in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I started a syndicate Icon Racing if you ever wanted
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  Speaker 2: to dip a toe in the horse racing. Uh, we're
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  Speaker 2: kind of like crowdfunny trying to compete with the big guys.
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  Speaker 4: Jason, What's I want to know what a race is?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 5: You won the Big Race, one of the big races
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  Speaker 5: last year. Are you more nervous when the horse is
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  Speaker 5: in the gate and it's coming down the finish line?
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  Speaker 5: Or were you more nervous when you played it in baseball,
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  Speaker 5: like in the World Series or All Star Game?
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  Speaker 4: Which what's the more nerve wrecking I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get nervous playing sports really. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like what we do, right. I never
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  Speaker 2: never had nerves or I never felt like I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna throw up before a game or you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was it was, uh, it was just what we did.
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  Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, horse racing, I mean, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I'm gonna die before these races. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: before the horses going in the gate, for like an
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  Speaker 2: hour leading up to the race, You're like, you're losing
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  Speaker 2: your mind, man. I mean it's like I've never been
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  Speaker 2: so nervous in my life. And then they get in
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  Speaker 2: the in the gate and the gates open, and literally
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm back on the field again. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm you know, playing at the highest level.
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  Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's like when they come around
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  Speaker 2: the last turn, it's like, you know, it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: you hit a you know, one of your you're in
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  Speaker 2: the dugouts, somebody hits a double in the gap with
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  Speaker 2: the base is loving the bottom of the nines with
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  Speaker 2: you know, in a big game like That's that's the
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  Speaker 2: type of emotions you feel when you know, in these
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  Speaker 2: big races. I said, winning the Belmont last last year
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  Speaker 2: was was the same feelings winning the World Series. I Mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's nothing like it. It is the best game's
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  Speaker 2: most underrated game and it is a great sport for
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  Speaker 2: retired athletes for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Are you now you know we got to see your
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  Speaker 6: horse right there seems docile. Do you ever recognize your
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  Speaker 6: horse when it's about to get in the gate? Because
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  Speaker 6: I've seen a little bit of horse racing, and like
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  Speaker 6: these horses are juiced, are ready, like they know what
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  Speaker 6: they're gonna do. Is it like crazy to see how
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  Speaker 6: much of a change it makes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? All these every horse is different. Right I'm over
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  Speaker 2: here with Beckman's barn. You can see like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a ton of horses here. We got one running today, hey, Sex,
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  Speaker 2: And every horse is different. These these uh, these three
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  Speaker 2: year olds, these these top three year olds. They're the
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  Speaker 2: best horses in the world right now. And I mean
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  Speaker 2: they have they have you know, they have like big
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  Speaker 2: time characters. They have you know, they have this charisma
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  Speaker 2: about them. They they are you know, they're rock stars.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're the uh they're the best athletes in the
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  Speaker 2: world right now, and they know it. And they all know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on game day that it's it's time to run.
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  Speaker 2: Like even even a low level race, these horses get
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  Speaker 2: pumped up. But when like there's a ton of people here,
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  Speaker 2: Like we'll do the walkover on Saturday. One of the
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  Speaker 2: coolest things you can ever do in your life. Own
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  Speaker 2: a horse that runs in the dirty. You walk your
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  Speaker 2: horse over on the track and it is like an
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  Speaker 3: Baseball fans or Derby fans who are more intolerant, who's
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  Speaker 3: hard to deal with?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, baseball fans. I mean, that's what's great about horse
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  Speaker 2: racing is it's like this big event where there's you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's no animosity, there's no real rivalries in the sport.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to worry about getting knife
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  Speaker 2: in the parking lot by a Mets fan. It's like
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  Speaker 2: everybody's cool. It's like the best party in the world.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like everybody's happy, even within the sport, all the owners,
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  Speaker 2: the people that erasing each other, trainers, it's it's one
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  Speaker 2: big community. It's one big, happy family. It is an
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  Speaker 2: amazing sport. I'm excited you're gonna be here for the Derby.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Derby is one of the coolest events
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  Speaker 2: there is. It's you know, it's it's one of the
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  Speaker 2: most watched sport events in the world.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's as big as it gives.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we come on a baseball show and ask
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  Speaker 6: about your quote about Mets and you just kind of
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  Speaker 6: you just kind of said it before the quote you
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  Speaker 6: had about New York Mets. If you live in New York,
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  Speaker 6: you have a choice, an obvious choice. You can either
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  Speaker 6: be a fan or one of the story of franchisees
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  Speaker 6: are really greatest franchise in sports history, or the Mets.
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  Speaker 6: I have no respect for people who pick the Mets.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, was that wrong?
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  Speaker 6: Hey? You you can you have, you have whatever you want,
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  Speaker 6: You have any opinion you want, and it's five. Why
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  Speaker 6: is that?
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  Speaker 4: Why is that your opinion?
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  Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of gamesmanship going on. One
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  Speaker 2: of the other owners is a big Mets fan, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, look like I've been saying jokes about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: about the Mets for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: I had to endure.
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  Speaker 2: The NL East and listening to Mets fans for for
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  Speaker 2: ten years, and I say one little comment and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of playing dround joking like it's funny and
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  Speaker 2: might be half truth or tongue in chic or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean it's it's it's a little, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just a little maybe a shot across the ball the
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  Speaker 2: other way after taking all their ship for ten years,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, take a joke. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: that you know they kind of are a joke, but
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  Speaker 2: let mean take a joke there.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, hey, speaking of taking jokes, the Phillies and the
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  Speaker 5: Nets played yesterday. Okay, who are you rooting for when
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  Speaker 5: the Phillies play the Nets? Are you rooting for the
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  Speaker 5: Phillies because you want a World Series there? Or you're
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  Speaker 5: rooting for the Nets because they paid you enough to
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  Speaker 5: have flying mohawk rates in the Kentucky Eary.
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  Speaker 4: Right right now.
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  Speaker 2: I love both franchises, had great outcomes in both places. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, win a World Series of Philadelphia, I say,
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  Speaker 2: is the biggest achievement of my life. The parade would
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  Speaker 2: be be one a and horse racing reference and then
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  Speaker 2: winning the Belmont is is two. So love love Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: Washington Nationals, you know gave me a long term contract,
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  Speaker 2: No trade clause, opportunity to rebuild a struggling franchise and
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of input into the into the organization,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, ultimately they won a World Series in
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  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen because of all the guys like me and
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  Speaker 2: Adam l Roach, and Ryan Zimmerman and and Ian Desmond,
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  Speaker 2: all those guys that laid the ground ground works for
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  Speaker 2: that franchise.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Either way who wins. I don't pay attention. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: pay attention, uh in April when I played. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that's why I was only an All Star one time.
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  Speaker 2: Sucked in the first half. I don't know who's watching
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  Speaker 2: these games in April, but I will pay attention as
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  Speaker 2: the year goes on. It's the long season. October baseball
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  Speaker 2: is the best, uh, you know, Obviously, playing as many
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  Speaker 2: postseasons as I did, I kind of come accustomed to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really love and playoff baseball. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: the best thing going. But we're a long, long, long
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  Speaker 2: way from that.
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  Speaker 6: Is that a thing? Is that a thing that people
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  Speaker 6: don't play well? I don't know if you can see
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  Speaker 6: it on you I'm rocking my Jason Worth Jay twenty
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  Speaker 4: I mean, why not when in Rome? Is that a thing?
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  Speaker 6: Though? Like, are people just do they just suck in
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  Speaker 6: baseball on April? Or is it a lack of focus
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  Speaker 6: and concentration or you don't like the cold?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was such a slow starter every year and it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't for lack of effort. Uh. My last year actually
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  Speaker 2: I went like on a crusade because I was like
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven, I think in twenty seventeen, I was like this,
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  Speaker 2: did everything different, was like to do everything I could
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  Speaker 2: to be a good player in April, and I had
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  Speaker 2: my hottest start, uh probably of ever, and I foul
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  Speaker 2: ball off my foot and I was break break my
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  Speaker 2: foot after my my hot start, and that was like
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  Speaker 2: that was the end of my career. So uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there goes there goes that idea. I probably should I
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  Speaker 2: probably should have went with what worked.
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  Speaker 5: Always go, always go with what worked. Jason, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if you remember this. We played against each other
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  Speaker 5: in Double A. Okay, you were able at you were
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  Speaker 5: a catcher. How happy are you that you didn't end
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  Speaker 5: up being a catcher and you ended up being an outfielder?
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  Speaker 5: You didn't have to squat and take fel balls and
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  Speaker 5: all the other stuff that comes along with being a catcher.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ajan, I wasn't very good, So it was it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't that. I don't know if you remember, and I
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  Speaker 2: mean you played it with double I was. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do anything well as a catcher the movie
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  Speaker 2: the Outfield. I started hitting and started running.
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  Speaker 4: It was a whole lot easier.
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  Speaker 2: It was a way better game for me out in
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  Speaker 2: the outfield, you know, And I tell you know what,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what really sucks about about catching is you're
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  Speaker 2: always You're always wrong, you know, So you're never right.
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  Speaker 4: If the guy the pitcher pitcher.
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  Speaker 2: Is great, is because he's great. If he gives up
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  Speaker 2: hits and home runs is because you're an idiot.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's it was. It's the most unforgiving job. I
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  Speaker 4: hated it. I hated the pitching coaches. I mean it
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  Speaker 4: was it.
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  Speaker 2: Was not for me. I'm I They did me a
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  Speaker 2: They did me a solid by getting me out of there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, from one World Series champ to another, from one
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  Speaker 3: catcher to kind of another catcher. Jason, before we let
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  Speaker 3: you go, what would you what would you consider a
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  Speaker 3: sick cess over the course of Oaks and the Derby
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  Speaker 3: this weekend. How do you walk away happy?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Uh, I've got a I've got an online betting
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  Speaker 2: account that uh you know that I have to fund.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if that thing's in the positive over the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: I say it's a success. But I mean, look, we're
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  Speaker 2: not I'm not coming. We're not coming here just to run.
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  Speaker 2: I mean this we we're this is a serious thing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Fly Mawk is is uh. You know he
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  Speaker 2: got us in the derby. Really cool story about the
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  Speaker 2: the jockey, Joey Ramos. He was he almost had a
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  Speaker 2: life ending injury about eighteen months ago. He's back on
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  Speaker 2: his feet, back riding again. He gets a ride with
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  Speaker 2: Flying Mohawk and he runs big race, runs second and
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  Speaker 2: gets them, gets him into the derby. So we're we're uh,
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  Speaker 2: we're riding him back on Fly Mawk. You know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: we never thought we'd be here. But you know that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean we're not going to win. So I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you hit the board in the in
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  Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby, you did something right. I'll be betting
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  Speaker 2: him in a suit in all my super fectas. So
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  Speaker 2: if he runs four. Hopefully I'll hit my super fectives
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  Speaker 2: and that'll that'll pay out good and I'll be happy.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, the the reality of the sport is
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  Speaker 2: it's uh, incredibly dangerous. The jockeys, uh and the horses,
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  Speaker 2: they put their lives on the line every race, and
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  Speaker 2: there's you know, there's a lot of that aspect of
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  Speaker 2: the of the of this game that makes it like real.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like it's it's heavy when you're in
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  Speaker 2: the pack and the jockeys get on there like you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're running forty miles an hour on the back of
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  Speaker 2: these things in close quarters and and uh and it's
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  Speaker 2: it is dangerous, but it is an amazing, amazing uh
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  Speaker 2: event in a sport. So I would say if everybody
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  Speaker 2: gets through this thing happy and healthy, it'll.
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  Speaker 4: Be a win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: guys are idiots about the home plate rule for the game,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: And I just I told.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Him I didn't.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't really care either way. I call it I
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: hate it getting hit. But what I really hate, what
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I really don't like, is the slide rule second base.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: I prided myself at breaking up double plays, and now
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I put when I went down in twenty seventeen to
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: play the minor leagues, did rehab. Oh now that was
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. W my last year I played in Tacoma.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I slid into second base to break up a double play,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: and you thought I would have shot this guy's dog.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Like these kids are so soft break up double plays anymore.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I'm forty years old going into second base the only
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: way I know how. And here's a twenty two year
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: old kid crying because I hit him too hard.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: You get out of here.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: A break, h Ask Jeff what the secrets are in
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: San Francisco? Say Jeff, what's the secret sauce in San Francisco?
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I know he's I know he's puppeteering some stuff there
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: with posy.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Let's bring a flying Mohawk's.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Other owner in here. Let's go guys.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: No, I think this secret is uh. We've got good players,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: no different than Mohawk running in the derby. Players are
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the ones that determine it. And I think the tone
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: is set by buster, posey and leadership, not by math.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's by like leadership and the humanity of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the sport.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck math. The Totley Verds of trying to ruin
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: this toy.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: We're not gonna let them.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Jason.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can cuss with your short now,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: but I've got a podcast and we say whatever the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: fuck we want. You guys. I'll get you guys on
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: there's Off the Rail podcast me and Sean Kelly. Check
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: All right, Jason, we appreciate it. Good luck. We'll talk
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: to you soon.