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• riverside_magic_epis-qiDjpzg54: Day in American history today. Still got the flag up though. Still flying it high. No, that was a fat L, bro. But I called it, bro. We're just not technical enough. There's just too many mistakes. Yeah, it's just all bad. Weren't we predicting round of sixteen for all the host countries anyways? Yeah. It's the curse, bruh. It's like a curse. My dad was calling it the the Trump curse 'cause of 'cause of them getting what is name, Balogun? Getting him reverse reverse. Exactly. That's what I said. I'm like, bruh, what? It's been an interesting knockout stage though. I just think that there just gets to a point where they just get out skilled and it happens every time. It could be round of sixteen, round of thirty two. They'll look good in the group stage, but then they just reach a point. Thing 'cause other countries have better player development. Yeah. And then even Canada. They were not the only host country to get ass whooping. They lost three zip to Morocco. So I think we have good player development because we have all the resources and the the facilities and the money to throw into the US men's team, women's team. 'Cause you see the women's team, bro, like you don't think they're getting the same treatment that the women's are getting? If not more. But and the women's are like the powerhouse so women's side but for sure. Yeah, that's true. I don't Yeah, actually I don't know about that. Yeah, bro. Maybe the maybe the skill gap is just a little different, I guess. A really big skill gap. But yeah, I guess no matter what, I just think like you said, like there's just not enough s they're not getting enough attention or like the resources aren't there. But I think in like eight years, Tumor will be cut. the resources are definitely there. That's what I'm saying. You think so? I don't know. I think we really USA men's national team has the resources. I think monster's more referring to the resources of like developing players from another. They have the resources for all that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we have we can we have academies, but when you think about what they have in Europe, it's not nothing compared to that. They're like literally breeding these soccer players from like fucking four or five years old. What it is is that we as a as a higher number we don't we don't care enough. Like as far as like kids grow up wanting to play football, basketball, or even baseball. Like we don't we don't have no one that wants to be like we have no national like Christian Polisic. He's Yeah, who's like think about when you think phenoms, bro? Like Yeah, Tim Howard, but like You gotta know the sport to know these type of players, bro. Obviously people know Christian Policy right now 'cause of recency biasy and all that stuff. But we don't have like a LeBron James or I don't know, Patrick Mahomes in soccer. It's always all these international people, like Argentina has Messi you wanna be a everyone wants to be Messi growing up in Argentina. Everyone wants to be Ronaldo and Portugal. You know, yeah, and like when Mes when Messi and Zlatan come into play in America, they're like the biggest names. Yeah, in MLS. So But I think we are starting to have a lot more players like in terms of like percentage of the team, the national team that play in Europe or like outside of the US MLS. So that's good. That's what I'm saying. We're on our way up. Every year we're getting better. We might be use losing in the same round, but I think we're looking better. Like just gotta give it time, I guess. That's my what about the Mexico game? Do you guys catch that? The banger game. I did. Had everything, honestly. An amazing game. Yeah. Yeah. I fell asleep on it. I love every second of it, not gonna lie. I can knocked out for What's big money? Forty minutes. yeah, and you got the good money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You hit big. It's a good hit for sure. Congratulations. Solid. Mm. I will say, you know, I was out, you know, watching a game with a few of my friends and the sadness like in the room did make me feel bad for a second. Then I looked at my parlay win and I was like, yeah I don't care. It ain't me. Yeah. No, no. Can't be smart exactly taking your country. I think it's valid for for sure for someone to like root for their country but then still have a bet against them. and they're a bet against my country. That that was a that was a pretty chippy game, huh? No, for sure. But all these games I was talking to I was talking to a drywaller, just another trade on site, and he was just like, Yeah, man, it seems like Basically like it's just a lot more intense and like people are aggressive, like pushing each other, fighting, like getting each other's heads. I'm like, I'm I'm here for it though. Elchum was kind of aggressive. There were some bullies low-key. Didn't like that. So I said they're the they're supposed they're just big and like physical. So like US is like dinner the same way, but yeah, I think they're got fucked over by Spain, bro. I told you, bro, there's no way. You would have got whooped. Disgusting. That's crazy. Even with all the powerhouses that lost early, like you still run into somebody, bro. You're telling me Cabo Verde can keep up with fucking Argentina, but we can't keep up with Bel Belgium, bro? I don't think Argentina You're talking about resources. No, it doesn't matter. I don't think they're better than they're better than Belgium. I I don't think so. They're better than Belgium, bro. Joshua would have worse his ha hot take. Argentina is going to lose. Okay, they might lose this round. This round. I'm I'm pulling for Egypt. I'm pulling for Egypt. It was in Egypt, yes, nigga. Africa. Pyramids and shit. You're talking about teams without resources. Cabo Bird didn't have no resources and they were able to Gaza. Gaza nigga. No no. I think when Moss is talking about resources, he's talking about like how much effort they put into growing players. Like USA puts in effort, bro. I'm I'm just trying to give an example. Like I guarantee the Dominican Republic Their GDP is far lower than ours. California's GDP alone is bigger than Dominican Republic, probably two times that. Maybe even more. I don't know. But I guarantee the Dominican Republic puts far more effort in their players becoming well in baseball than America does. Would you agree with me on the Well I don't when you said more America you kinda lost me. But I know what you mean. When you think when you think of the L B, they're getting their players from down south, from D R to P R to To Venezuela. It's the passion for the game, bro. It's the passion for the game. Nasty. Wait, who's nasty? The the in the world baseball classic, Dominican Rehu Republic team. Yeah. They're staying nasty, bro. But they didn't win. Yeah, nah. Too many super nasty though. They're a fun team. They were that was fun to watch though, for sure. On paper, they're yeah, on paper they should be winning and just destroying every team. But I think that they also need pitching. I don't know how their pitching really is. Yeah, no. Just like. But fucking, yeah, I don't know. I just think soccer there there's definitely room to improve and add more resources when we trying to compare to like other countries. But at the end of the day it all comes down to passion. And like you said, kids are playing other sports, putting passion in other places. Yeah. So it is what it is. But like But the but the US has to realize like you said with the Olympics, like we're dominating so many other sports. They could care less at the end of the day when we lose in like When we lose in the World Cup, that's what I think. No no no, I disagree. I think niggas care when we lose. You don't think they used to yet? I think it's just expected is what I'm saying. Way more to lose? yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Way more. Like it's not I won't say like that. That's what I mean. Yeah, I don't know how America took when Tim Duncan and them boys lost lost in the Olympics. Like, you know. Yeah. I think if it happened again, it might be a little right. and I my god. The Olympics is in in in California. And Lily's here too. Is it My dad went to the Olympics. I don't know what year it was. He went to the Olympics. Was it like eighty eight? I don't know. I guess probably eighty eight. Yeah, 'cause he graduated in eighty one, something like that. Is that the yeah, is that the year that it was out here? But he worked with McDonald's and McDonald's was a big sponsor, so they got like free tickets and he was eighty. So was Ralph. Like, you I want accomplishment of Ralph's clothing for Team USA. They always make some eat. Would you guys think that the USA men's national team will win a World Cup in our lifetime? It's possible. I will I'm leaning towards they will. I would say they have like the potential to win in like the next twenty years. Which is our lifetime. Yeah, I would no, that's what I'm saying. But like I just saying like as earlier than like fuck I will only be what, forty eight? I'm I'm I'm saying just with the the fact that we were just a host country and then like it's not the same as it was fifteen years ago as far as like the men's team. A lot of more people care about the sport too now because Like I said, us being a host country, I think that helps out like the popularity. So you got a lot of these young athletic kids that actually get to watch the sport, have all this momentum. And then like, man, you know what, I might want to do this. I mean, USA might need someone like me to be up there. I wanna be the next freaking messy or or whatever. But I think if we got were to get like one more or two more rounds deeper, that would have helped our case a lot more also. And you guys saying like the pipeline or like the talent pool that other countries have compared to us No one has more talent than US. Okay, look, that's what I said the last episode though. That's what I'm like, we're our team does not look as diverse as this country is. So either the youth of this country are going and then playing in other countries technically or not making it to that level. But I just feel like in terms of the United States, like you would think we'd have a little bit few other ethnicities amongst the team. of course they're going to other nations. We have citizens who are rooting for other nations. You know what they are with Somebody went to Bosnia. Yeah. Come on now. I forgot his name, but he was playing in Bosnia instead of USA. He grew up in Wisconsin. Mm-hmm. But well maybe the that's what I'm saying. Maybe the that mindset is gonna change and then that'll help us know to get a better team. And that like I'm saying, if kids grow up wanting to play soccer in America, it's gonna be a problem for other countries because you already said we already dominate the Olympics 'cause we have the most athletic people in out of all the countries in the world. Mm-hmm. So we have the youth wanting to play in this sport, we have Let's imagine if AJ Brown wanted to play fucking soccer instead of football, bro. Like I but here's the thing, I don't think it would ever get to that level because like Odo Beckham Jr. apparently he was some soccer phenom and could have played professional. I never heard that. Yeah, I don't count, we can look it up. Like he could do like he could play most sports. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. But he now It's different from when he was playing soccer. We didn't have a national scope like we have now. When he grew up playing soccer. There was nobody we weren't fucking filling out streets watching watch parties. I think I I I think it's more of verb us as like a culture, as a society, I think we're more prioritizing making women's sports popular, choosing what sports that we're gonna start watching for women's. I don't think like the male dominated sports that we view Or watch isn't gonna change. I think it's always gonna be football and you're saying that soccer will not get more popular after this World Cup. Did I say that? Did I say that? No. I said that. The two no, I did not. I'll say it again. I said I feel the two most dominant sports will always be basketball and football. A sport could become more popular and not be dominant, J D. I'm not saying we're gonna dominate. I just say we're gonna win a World Cup now. Or maybe I'm not speaking clear enough. I'm gonna say I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. No, I I get you one hundred percent. I'm saying even with the rise of soccer, it will never be the number one sport in America. So our top athletes aren't gonna play those sports. When you're talking about the Olympics, those are athletes who are doing the thing they want to do. Like for example, track, fill, things like that. Track and field aren't isn't isn't even popular. Most of the people that are doing track or doing Sh shock put shit like that. It wasn't like they could have chose between football or basketball. Most athletes that play sports are gonna choose football or basketball. If they're playing soccer, I'm talking about athletes that play team organized sports, like the big four. Baseball, football, soccer, basketball. The top athletes that do those sports are gonna wanna play football and basketball professional. I wouldn't even say soccer's in the big four in the US. Hockey's more popular than soccer in the US. Fuck, okay, I I agree with you. I agree. Speaking of basketball, how y'all feel about these NBA offseason so far? Solid, bro. I know you're not too happy. No, no, how let's let J D talk about it first. Yeah, let's talk about it, honestly. I think I'm ready to talk about that trade. Yeah, let's let J D talk about it. You know, like I it was so funny. I think a a few episodes ago you was talking about how the Boston Celtics it's it's it's it's it's a well Ran machine dominate, like you know that We're not losing J V. We're not losing J Vince. Yeah, that's crazy. J V gonna stay. You know I'm trying to man. It seemed like you were just speaking nonsense again. Speaking bullshit. Just being hopeful. That's just my opinion. I don't know. The way I see you were wrong. Do you guys have J V? Maybe you were right. Maybe the post that I was thinking. You think I'm right? Alright. My fault. Did you say I was being hopeful? As a as a fan. Is that the whole point of being a fan is being hopeful? Yeah, no, but like I say you're Is that trade? Did you expect to see that trade coming? For Paul George or for JB Trader. Not for J B? You were just as shocked as everyone else in the world. So don't act like you knew this was happening. No, but I expect No, it is easier to say that shit in retrospect. I said, You said Jalen Melvin could trade for Paul George to the fucking Philadelphia seven sixties. You did not say that. I said remember IT. I say you guys do your players dirty. Remember IT. We did him dirty? That he didn't that nigga didn't lose any dollars from his contract, bro. He got traded to a well good situation. How do we do him dirty? How do we do him dirty? Trading him the trading him to no no no. Listen. They gave up on me. Didn't didn't it's like scissor get murdered and he said hoot for y'all? He fell on the floor and said Like gave up on me. I have never seen a trade where h hurt one team and the other one's career. You guys ruined IT's career. He didn't ruin his career. You guys ruined it. He wasn't the same after that, bro. He wasn't insane. He was injured a lot though. He wasn't injured a lot. That boy had n had no more step in his jump no more. He was injured. They traded him for a reason. And you saw it when he got traded to that horrible franchise in Cleveland. Yeah. You just said he got traded to a good situation. So I was talking about Jalen Brown. I don't know why we're talking about Isaiah Thomas. I'm talking about 2026 offseason. This dude brought up Isaiah Thomas. Yeah. Something that happened everywhere. Pattern recognition. You guys should have You act like we're the only team that has traded franchise superstars before. Y'all literally just traded Anthony Davis. Y'all literally just traded Anthony Davis. And he was your final RVP. Is Anthony Davis not the second best player on your fucking team when you won a championship? Was he not your final? What's at one point? Was he not the best player on your team? Running with LeBron? And y'all traded him? Well, he was never the franchise player. You said franchise player. He was never the franchise player. JB won four. You can have multiple franchise player. I agree with I agree with Yes, he was. Yes he was. He was a cornerstone of that team. Bro, Laker Lakers fans move the goalposts more than the football field getting renovated, bro. I promise you. How are you guys gonna say he was not a franchise player, but when he's healthy, you're like, he's the best big man in the league. No one's better than A D. If you're the best person in the fucking league, you are a fucking franchise player. Can I explain? Can I explain? What the fuck? I fucking hate arguing basketball with fucking Lakers fans. 'Cause you guys do not use logic. He's angry, so we're gonna let him express express his anger. Yes. We understand he's been through a lot. We'll let him we'll let we'll let him Bring it out, sir. I'm done. Go. What do you want to say about Anthony Davis? Not being a franchise player. I'm gonna say well, franchise players, I think it matters more than just skill. It matters how they look in the community, the deals they're getting on TV, especially as you said the Lakers or Hollywood. I would say was he one of the best players on the team 100%, but I don't think that makes you a franchise player. I feel th if anything The Lakers aren't giving away their franchise player unless they want to be traded. Like you Andy Davis did not want to get traded, bro. He wasn't a franchise player. He was just good. The Lakers you know like no the Lakers, you know, like we we we're known to always have talent. Like, you know. We have so many Hall of Famers. We probably have one of the best all time teams in NBA history. Any other any other team. So like the last true Lakers, homegrown? Yeah, I guess yeah, like homegrown. Kobe. But then again, I said again, again, again, I said the Lakers are known to get Lakers acquired are superstars. Boston Groves are superstars. That's why I said that is a better rant franchise. Yeah. All the Boston is more of a franchise player then. Uh-huh. No, you don't you can get traded to be a franchise player. You don't have to be drafted there to be a franchise player. Davis was definitely a franchise player, bro. I don't know why he's trying to argue he wasn't. That's like the most Okay. Let's see. The Lakers traded. So they traded for Anthony Davis by sending Lonzo, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, draft rights to DeAndre Hunter, significant draft capital. And which one of those I think turned out to be Zion. Yeah, it did. It was a Pelicans. So I mean you don't trade all that for someone who's not a franchise player. That's why. You described Anthony Davis as a good player. Okay. Are you But they did they did they did trade Anthony Davis for Luca, who was in his prime. Another franchise player. Celtics traded J B for nothing. Aging. I I was gonna talk about that until we fucking went on a tangent about Isaiah Thomas for whatever reason. And his dude wanted to spew nonsense about Anthony Davis not being a superstar player. I can admit maybe I'm incorrect. Maybe Anthony Davis is a franchise. You are incorrect, a hundred percent. If you're a legal fan, you don't use logic. Anthony Davis basketball. Okay, first of all, I'm the most logical person. You do not use logic. You just said Anthony Davis is not a franchise player. You just said Anthony Davis is not a franchise player. I give How is that logical? I guess how is that logical, bro? I view a franchise player as someone that is like untradable. If they don't want to trade, they're gonna stay. Nobody's untradable in the NBA. Nobody. Nobody's untradable in the NBA. The the Hornets should trade their franchise player. The Hornets should trade their franchise. Haha. There's multiple. Why do they get that? No trade clause. Why do impl why do they implement that in their contract? Tell me. Tell me why the nigga please. You said no. Say that again traded. Say it again. Say it again. Say again. Say it again. Why do implement traded? Because nobody is safe in the NBA. That is a known. This is not new shit. Unless you have a no trade clause. Which is the reason of getting no trade clause. I'm not gonna talk about my head. I wouldn't say less I don't know who has there's probably a lot of players that we have to LeBron for sure. But you get that shit. No, there's not there's not a lot of players that you implement that shit so you don't get traded. So you don't get blindsided traded because anyone can get traded. There's not a lot of players that have I I wanna say Bradley Beale had one at one point. We just saw Yeah he did, he definitely had one. And Giannis I'm pretty sure Giannis had one before he went to Giannis had one too. A lot of players get it too, so if they are in the works of getting traded, they can decide where they want to go. Yeah, they won't they won't let it happen unless Yeah. LeBron for sure no trade clause. LeBron James and Damien Luther are the only ones. Right now, currently. Damn. Currently, that's crazy. So fools really do be getting traded. 100%. It's not true. I don't know why fools act like Boston Celtics are the only team that trade their fucking beloved superstars. That's not true. That's not true at all. It's not, but it's Anthony Davis. Talk about it. Anthony Davis wasn't beloved. Was he my scene? You're the Lakers fan. I don't Y'all didn't love Anthony Davis. Y'all were mad he was hurt a lot, but y'all used to say he was the best player when he's hurt. I I was a fan of Anthony Davis, but I know a lot of Lakers fans who called him A Disney street clothes. They're hated on him, like 100%. You're also speaking about one of the worst fan bases that don't know basketball. So you asked me a question, I answer and then you say, Well, because the fan base is dumb. You're asking about Lakers. Fans. So why'd you ask the question? You should have said You asked You didn't just ask you didn't just ask me Lakers fans, You said was Anthony Davis beloved. You asked me that. I don't give a fuck. I know he was beloved. no I was getting angry. Okay. Am I angry? I'm a yeller. I don't think I'm angry right now. I'm gonna Would you say I'm angry? Would you say I'm angry? Let's talk about the Jalen Brown trade. Let's talk about the Jalen Brown trade. That's the more relevant thing. What are the what's the full details on it? Jalen Brown for Paul George, two firsts and two seconds. For Jalen Brown. Probably. No. We just got Paul George in that trade. It was one of the worst trades I ever seen in my life when it first happened. That's tough, bro. That's a tough trade. But what, being a week removed from it now, I see why they made the move. They made the move for You see why? Yes. One JB Jalen Brown's my favorite player on the Celtics. He's probably one of my favorite players I ever put on the Celtics uniform. But I've been saying this shit for the longest, and I hated this shit when this was like a trend. Jalen Brown has never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. In his nine years playing with Jason Tatum. He has never been better than Jason Tatum. Not one of those years. Not even Jason Tatum's rookie year. Jason Tatum's rookie year he was better than Jalen Brown. And Jalen Brown's second year. There was not one time. He won finals MP. Because of fucking politics. And like I said, J B is my favorite player to put on the Celtic uniform. Jason Tatum. He didn't play better in the finals? Jason Tatum I played him in every single stat. Every single stat Jason Tatum had a better stat. No, I forgot. Andre Godala, didn't he get one over Stephen Curry? 'Cause of defense or some shit. Yes, politics. Yeah, it's politics. You're telling me Andrew is better than Steph during that finals? No, he was not. Why did you I don't understand that. LeBron averaged thirty five that series. He lost. Why are you acting you don't understand that shit? He lost. That's why he didn't. Jerry West. J. West was you're saying 'cause he averaged thirty on him and they gave it to him for his defense. Yeah. It's kinda like how J B won it. They J B was guarding Luca and down there. He was hooping for sure. He was definitely hooping, but Lucas still averaged like fucking twenty seven plus. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Like he just was guarding him down the stretch from good has good stops, and I'm not degrading that at all. Like He had a great finals performance. But you're gonna tell me that he played better than Jason Tatum? What was JB your best perimeter defender? Like this year? On the perimeter. I wouldn't say he's a better perimeter. I wouldn't say he's a better perimeter defender than Derek White. Okay, and you saw Derek White. You also gotta account, you also gotta account that he's also the the most useless player on offense, so he can't really be defending at a high rate on the other side. And also another thing. Boston plays a lot better when Jason Tatum's on the floor and J B's not. Because JT is a player that incorporates players surrounding him a lot more than J B does. J B gets the ball, it's not leaving his hands. Yeah. JT gets the ball, he's sucking in the defense. Another thing, too, in the finals, that whole run, J T was facing the double teams and the triple teams. Not Jalen Brown. And he was still outperforming Jalen Brown. Are you saying J B benefited more being on JT's team than JT benefited having JB. Yes. JT faces all the double teams. He gets the whole entire defensive scheme. It's toward geared towards Jason Tatum. So are are you saying like JT's like numbers aren't going to do anything is going to be as dominant as he is, as he was with JB while JT averaged thirty. He was the last the last person averaged thirty on the Celtics was Larry Bird. I was really asking JT averaged thirty While playing with J B. I know. I wasn't I was really asking the question. I wasn't being facetious. I was just like a real I'm I'm telling you. I know, but I would do you think do you think J B do you think J B's performance is going to dinner now that he's most likely gonna be the first option? He's not gonna be the first option in Philly. Batman's? You think they're taking you think they're taking touches away from Tyrese to give to J B though? Who's the first I'm asking you? Who do you think will be the first I'm showing Philly? Damn our bayou on Miami, bro. You're talking about I'm tripping, I'm tripping. Tyrese Maxi, Maxi is the number one option in Philly, and it should not change. It's Tyrese Maxi's team. Like they're complimenting on the Giannis went to the heat. Yes. I'm tripping. Typical Lakers fan, bro. Yeah, you walk in the Yes, is Type. JT has always definitely been better than JB, but I think them as a duo, like I think they're usually the most consistent duo in the league. dude, they were probably they're they were the best duo in the league. Yeah, they're I don't give a fuck what anybody says. They the best duo in the league. I mean, I don't see why you would, honestly. I mean I'd I'll tell you why. The new C P A? What? I would say they were the best like homegrown duo since Dirk and was the best duo. Mm-hmm. A step further, the best homegrown duo as well. Like for them not only be the best duo, for them to be homegrown. Like you haven't seen a homegrown duo s like that since the what the early two thousands. But Shaq and what's his name on Orlando? Maybe they can kinda compete with that. But yeah. You can't pay you can't Pay seventy percent of your pay payroll to two players. It's just it it's not gonna last. It's bound to happen. And especially after the new C BA rules after like what, three years ago. It's it's kinda hard to have that many superstars on your team and painting without getting attacks. I honestly feel like the Celtics were making it work 'cause you guys have a pretty good team still. Well you think about it, we just signed Mitchell Robinson, which is a big need that Boston needed. They needed a big man, someone that could be a presence of the paint, someone that can get rebounds, perimeter or interior defense. And then Paul George fits way better with the Boston's playstyle than Jalen Brown does. And I'm not a big Paul George fan because when players expire, I feel like they shouldn't be getting paid as much as Paul George is getting paid. Paul George is getting paid the same amount as Jalen Brown is, and it's ridiculous. But he has one less year than Jalen Brown does. So when his contract expires, that free agency will be 2028. Free agents in that will be Jokic will be a free agent, Luca will be a free agent. And I can't think of any other guys, but it's gonna be a big free agency that year. Luca's staying with the Lakers forever. Whatever. His contract expires in two thousand twenty eight, bro. He's gonna test for agency. I'm letting you know right now. Luca's gonna test for agency. But when he does, that'll be in two thousand twenty eight. Boston will have sixty five million dollars to offer a free agent in that year. When they trade Jalen Brown to get Paul George. And then he's a better shooter than Jalen Brown. I don't know. I mean Jalen Brown's gonna be interesting to see, but I think who's gonna be a better duo? J T and P D or Anthony Edwards and Lamella? I think if J T comes back to normal, he's gonna be a top five player, so he'll be. I think he will. Yeah, I think he will too. Cause he was already playing great when he came back. He just wasn't scoring as much as he used to. Like I said, this fool app is thirty with Jalen Brown next to him. Yeah. But Anthony Edwards and Lamello? I think Anthony Edwards would teach him teach him how to win. Well, I kinda just want to see Lomelo play good basketball. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And a winning on a on a franchise that's actually, you know That's trying. On track to w you know to getting there because they've already went to the Western Conference Finals in recent memory. So is Melo not a franchise player? He is for sure. I think for Nas Reed. Yeah, I mean that's gonna be cool. I'm I'm excited to see that. You think LeBron's gonna go there or what? I don't know where LeBron's going, bro. I think he's going back to a franchise player. Yann's a franchise who they trade him for? Tyler Hero and Hami Hawkes? Like that happens Jokoponis or whatever his name is. It happens bro Franchise players get traded for nothing sometimes. Bam out of bio franchise swear? Yeah, he is. Yeah, I think so too. Nothing personal. It's just good business. But I am I am like not mad about the trade anymore. I'm Hey, I saw I saw a quote, J D. I don't know if it's true though, because I was just reading it, so I didn't really look into it, but it was a Brad Stevens quote saying he didn't think that JB and JT were a championship duo anymore. True? Did he actually say that? I didn't watch the press conference. If we saw that shit today. Yeah. So that's crazy to say, honestly, but they're only two years removed. Two years removed from championship, but you saw what happened, bro. They blew a three one lead two to four. JT didn't play, but see JT didn't play game seven though. You it's different, JT plays game seven? It doesn't matter. We should have won. We should have won. We should've won without JT. We shouldn't have blew a three. We shouldn't have lost two games before JT left game seven. Yeah. Also the year before we lost to the fucking Knicks. We shouldn't have lost that series. What we lose we lost three one? for sure. Yeah. We lost 3-1. But guess what? We were up every fucking game. And we blew the leads every game. Twenty point leads, bro. Just blowing them. Like a flunt. And we were the better team that whole series. So when he says something like that, if he did say that shit, that's what he means. And we were doing that shit before we won the championship, bro. We were losing the weaker we lost to the Heat twice. You can't tell me that Heat had a better team than Boston the both times they beat No, I don't think the Heat had the best team in the East both times they went to the finals. They were A C when they went to the finals last time they went and they were especially in twenty twenty. That team should have been there. They shouldn't have beat us in twenty twenty either. We should have won the championship in twenty twenty. I thought it would be Lakers and Celtics, honestly. It was just hard workers, bro. We would've beat y'all by dogs. But yeah, we just got outdogged by Miami. When they face dogs like that, that shit is like they play down to their competition a lot. J T and J B. Not not them in Particular, but like the team as a whole. Yeah. So you get like, and we got Mike Conley now. You get like a veteran presence like him, PG. I don't know. Maybe that should just be it's gonna be a whole nother look, bro. And I and they also they're also banking on Peyton Pritcher becoming Jalen Brunson. So becoming Jalen Brunson? Listen. I know he's nice. I fuck with Peyton Pritcher heavy. Peyton Pritcher, I was talking to your brother about this shit too. He almost he almost made me crash out, actually. This fool told me that tiny hack box. He understands. I I was like, bro, do you understand? I said Peyton Pitcher has a deeper bag than Jalen Brunson. I'm not at at all saying that he's better than Jalen Brunson. Obviously he's not better than Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson's the better player. But if you watch bag work. Just dribble moves, get into the basket, how you how you create your own shot, all that shit. No, just we can better understand where he's coming from. Like maybe what you think bag is and what he thinks bag is is different. No, I told him and he understood that too. Yeah, no, I kept reverting back to saying that. He's not better than Jalen Brunson. I'm like, bro, that's not what I'm saying. No, that's not what he's saying. Kyrie has a better bag work than he's not better than Kobe. Kyrie has the best bag work in history. Yes, and he's not the best. He's not even top fifteen in history. No, but I I should have one guard. No, he's not, bro. Kyrie Irving is not top five point guard. He's not? No. That's stuff. There's a lot of people with MVPs. He's not on stat leaderboards like that, right? Nah, but if you watch Kyrie, you know Kyrie's just like that. He's just like that. He just got the deepest bag. He's like a hooper's hooper, bro. Dude, fucking Penny Hardaway got a deeper bag than Jalen Brunson, bro. I hear here's what I'm saying with this. I don't think Jalen Brunson uses his bag. He just gets he just makes shots as a shot maker. But I've seen him like I've seen flashes of it. And I'm just like, Yeah, you know how deep his bag is, but he that's just not his playstyle. It's just 'cause he's a great dribbler. Like he has He has that he has the ball on a string. He's not a better dribbler than Payton Pitcher though. But he's just That's what I'm saying. He simplifies his game. A hundred percent. And you have to have that side. You can only talk about their game. Yeah, for sure. Payton Pitcher's game is ex showing his bag work. And that's because he also he's also like fucking five ten, bro, if that five eleven. So him scoring the paint as much as he does, he's only using bag work. my god, bro. His paint touches are crazy. And so is Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson's like, what, six two? So he's he has to get to the best. Yeah, and I think I I think six two is inflated too. I think he's probably like six feet. I think it's inflated also. I think he's probably like six feet. There's no way he's six two. and Pink Pritcher, I think Payne Pritcher is legit five eleven. He might be five ten, but You can tell by when they stand next to other people. But your brother said that Yokic had a deeper bag than Payne Pritcher. So that's why I knew he doesn't understand what bag work means. Passing the ball as a back. There's no way you include left or right, up, down, like bro, there's no way you're telling me a center has a better backwork than Paint Pritchard. We're not doing that shit. This dude scored ninety in a pro AM game, bro. Come on, bro. That's just straight back work, bro. Exactly. Yeah. I don't care if it's pro AM, it's still ninety. He's still gotta put the ball in the basket and get to the basket. He's still shorter than everybody in Pro AM. But I don't know. They're banking on him be taking that Jalen Brunson leap because Jalen Brunson wasn't nobody talked about Jalen Brunson when he was with Luca until he left Luca. No, they were. That's why he was such a big free agent target. Bro, they were talking about him, but like no one thought he's gonna be what he is right now. Not for you. Like when he was with Luca, though. That last year. The last year. No, no, for sure not. But best player on the championship team? No one thought that. To be like your starting point guard, like we could use that guy for sure. That's a big jump. And I don't know. I just think they they have that much they fuck Payne Pritchard a lot over there in Boston, so I know they have that faith in him. and you think about it, you take all the shots that J B takes, probably takes like what, twenty six shots a game, twenty to twenty six. You spread those out between Paul George, Pritchard and Tatum, it might be a lot more efficient scoring going on over there. Yeah. We'll see. I don't know. I don't I don't know if Boston will be as good as they were with J B, but I mean I'm not putting out the picture though. The East got a lot better than last year. East got a lot better. I think they still went fifty plus though. Fifty plus for Boston? Yeah. Boston. yeah, I'm not mad at that. I'm telling you, JT has the best player. And it's now we're not doing your turn, my turn. It's play through JT. You play through JT. I think Boston finished with a better record than Miami. I think well Cavs are gonna finish with a good record since we're gonna get LeBron. But Okay, let's go to a new segment if we're talking about the Cavs now. LeBron's coming home, baby. I really don't know where that fool's going, bro. I'm not gonna lie. He has to I I want him to finish in Cleveland just because if he goes to another team. He likes the attention? Yeah, he does. Dude, they had a podcast Paul had a fucking podcast or he does somebody's podcast with the fucking whiteboard. It's his show. It's his show. It's his show. So it's like, but that's like what the fuck brought For sure. With like the list of the whole whiteboard. I didn't like that, but LeBron knows where I think LeBron knows where he's going. Hundred percent. They're make like you said, he should do another decision, honestly. I think so too. At this point, just go full full TV. I think he has to go to the Cleveland because well as a Cavs fan, I don't think so say he goes to another team where whether that be New York, Minnesota, fucking Golden State, whatever. He would have spent more time on another franchise than he did with the Cleveland Cavaliers. And as a Cas fan, look looking at his career as a whole, it's like you don't want to come finish your career in Cleveland? He's fine, bro. He got you he got you the only ring that you got. But you know what he said when he came back in twenty fourteen? He said, I always pictured finishing my career in Cleveland. He's still good. He can go somewhere else for a year or two and then come back. I you don't you think this isn't this isn't his last year? I think he'll play a year or two, depending on where he goes. If he goes to Minnesota, he plays actually. I don't know. It depends how it it's a lot, bro. 'Cause I if they're if he goes to Minnesota and they're a good team, they go to conference finals and they lose, I think he plays again. You know what I mean? I think he just plays well with our roster right now, honestly. I just don't think you guys are good enough, bro. That's just not tempting. I feel like he wants to go some roads, bro. But he'll play well with Like he can he has a lot of people to distribute it too. Y'all y LeBron doesn't make you guys a contender when he goes to your team. Yes, he does. For sure he does. It's like not instead of having Jalen Tyson as your starting four, we LeBron Tyson. Yeah, you you get you do get significantly better, but he's also forty two, bro. We are still in the Eastern Conference Finals, so no. Yeah. We were still in the Eastern Conference Finals this year. James Harden just shouldn't you guys shouldn't have been there. What do you mean? We earned that. You shouldn't been there. You shouldn't have been there. Why? Who would you play to get there, bro? We played we played Toronto and we played and we played Detroit. What are you talking about? We played the number one seed. Detroit were frauds. There were frauds. All right. We played the number one seed, bro. We played the number one seed. You can be a fraud number one. You can be a fraudulent number one seed. I just I don't I think Jalen Dern was holding them back a little bit. He just didn't show up. K had to do everything, but fraudulent team. They only have one player in the playoffs. And w we were talking about this before the playoffs even started. Like, how are they gonna be in the playoffs? Because they played through K Cunningham. And he hasn't even been in the playoffs like that before. So when they get to the playoffs, what kind of team are they gonna be? Who's good for this? This is not a surprise that they were fraudulent in playoffs. No, but they have nobody else, bro. We still beat him though. Let's talk about IU, bro. Let's talk about this. Diva. I don't care what anyone says. Anyone that thinks otherwise is tripping. Andrew Luck is a quitter. He quit on his team. Okay, okay. So your only argument is that Dak Prescott is better because he has a longer career. Okay, okay, fine. No. Let's the peak versus peak, bro. Who is better in the peak? Andrew Luck or Dak Prescott? I'm post your season right now. Dax Prescott rookie year is better than any of Andrew Luck's Doc Prescott's rookie You know when Andrew Luck came in the league he broke the p rookie passing record? What year is Andrew Luck's best year? Probably twenty fourteen. I would say twenty fourteen or twenty eighteen. One of the okay, twenty fourteen is as high as yards thrown. He threw forty seven hundred, forty touchdowns, and sixteen interceptions. What do you think Dak Prescott's best year was? Those sixteen interceptions, he made one dumb mistake every single game, but they were never crucial mistakes. Prescott never threw forty touchdowns before. Never. He's only thrown over 4700 one time, and that was his fourth year. He threw 4900, 30 touchdowns, eleven interceptions. his last year Andrew Luck throwing thirty-nine his last year. Yeah, he threw thirty-nine touchdowns, fifteen receptions, forty five hundred yards. Mm. This is actually closer than I thought, bro. And I'm a big Dak Prescott fan. I fucking hate the Cowboys. And they finished so the Colts finished ten and six that year, but they started and five, so they ended on a ten and one run. But we can also say Dak Prescott always had a better receiving core. One and five or something. No? He didn't? No. So let's let's list Dax let's list Dax receivers. No. T Y Hilln. What what's the meters? Twenty fourteen to twenty or twenty twelve to twenty eighteen. We had so we had TY for sure, franchise player. we had Dante Moncrief, Lavon Brazil, Derek Rogers. We have to start off. Griff Whalen. Hold on, hold on. Let's start off. We have because Dak Prescott's rookie game was 2016. So we're talking about receiver core, it has to be from twenty sixteen. I forgot he came in a little later. But he's talking about Lux receiving core. I'm talking about just receiving core Lux. While Dak Prescott and Luck played together, like at the same time, Dak has never been better than Luck in that spin. No, no, What I'm saying is I think I think Dak Prescott has played more seasons than Andrew Luck. You know, so of course he's gonna have a better receiver core like of all time. See, your only argument for Dak being better is that he has a longer career. Longevity. No, no, I'm not saying I'm saying like the reason why he might have a better receiver court is because he's played for longer years. That's all I'm During his peak, he had a better receiver than I don't like doing this, Josh. You know I like Defending I actually defend Dak in most conversations. I I think I think Dak g is overhead. I Dak just I mean the fact that this man won the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award and then got booed as he was No I would say like like skill wise I would say skill wise Dak has more than Andrew Luck. No. No. You disagreeing? Mm-hmm. Skill wise? Yeah, skill wise, for sure. Yeah. If you're picking the team? How about we look up better pastoral? What's that one you guys saw that one clip of John Gruden talking about Andrew Luck? What his words were God made Andrew Luck perfect. That's what he said. That's literally what he said. What year was that? What year was that? Bro, that was after he was after he retired. What quote what coach said that? John Gruden. Hmm. Isn't John Good. John Gruden right now. Do John Group. Isn't John Gruna racist? He won't racist. Of course John Guru isn't okay. I'm not gonna get into that. I feel like you're talking about a player, sa a coach saying, this player is really good when he's racist, of course he's gonna say the white quarterback is really good because the niggas racist. He got fired for being racist, bruv. He got fire for being racist, bruv. That's a real is pushing that man out. Nah, I don't think you saw the tweets and it's why do you think why do you think luck's better than Dak Prescott? Just watch the game. He just the way he plays the game, he's first of all, he's clutch for sure. And he throws the ball in the perfect space every single time. my god. So I can go to the I test. We already compared the numbers. I think numbers rating rating wise, Dak Prescott has luck beat. 'Cause A lot of the times Dak Prescott's rating over the over his career, he's over he's well over ninety a few of these times. Luck has been seventy six his rookie year, eighty six. No you know every year Dak Prescott plays major of the season, he's the VP candidate. The only time he's not, 'cause he gets hurt. I'm lying. I think Dak is a great quarterback. I think no, but I'm just saying that goes to show that every year that Dak Prescott plays the majority of the season, he is an MVP candidate. That sounds that sounds like someone in a lot of mistakes. They don't they don't matter because they still win the game. So it doesn't even matter. They do matter because we're comparing the the single individual quarterbacks to each other. We gotta compare their fast in the interceptions. He makes one stupid mistake a game, but every other play is perfect. He threw 18 interceptions as rookie year. You said Mark Mark Ball, bro. He's gonna use guarantee to make mistakes. Yeah, he wasn't scared to make mistakes, bro. Work. We throw interceptions. You just you just said this, and I call you said. You just interceptions. If he's throwing interceptions, like a lot more compared to Dak, then I then I take back what I said. So listen to this then. So rookie years, I'm gonna compare both rookie years. 2012 Andrew Lux rookie year. He threw 4300 yards, 23 touchdowns, 18 interceptions. His QB his his quarterback rating was 76.5. We go to Dak Prescott's rookie year. They both played 16 games this in this. Dak Prescott threw 3,600 yards. 23 touchdowns also, but he threw only four interceptions. And his and his rating was But but who was his running back? Who was his 700 less yards? It's because he has to feed the Zeke. Feed Zeke. So would you take would you take 700 less yards and or T less interceptions? No, no. Can I please say something? No. His KD's higher. That's what I'm saying. No, can I please say something? The reason why he threw less yards is because he had to feed Zeke. That was Zeke's rookie year. He was going off. Like, you know, he can't get mad. You know how many you know how many runs Zeke was Zeke was getting at that time period? Like, come on. Look at passing attempts. Zeke was look at passing attempts. Passing attempts. Let's look at passing attempts. Yeah. so Lux threw Six hundred and twenty-seven times and completed for thirty-three three hundred and thirty-nine times completion percentage is fifty-four percent. Dak threw four hundred and fifty-nine times. Two hundred less damn damn near. And completed three hundred and eleven for sixty-seven percent. Two hundred less completions for how many records? Rev, you're brev, you're not taking brev, you're not taking you're not taking four seven hundred less yards and The records do matter. Let's look at the records. Twenty sixteen voted Cowboys record. We lost one game. We won SC championships that yeah, baby. We lost we lost the Green Bay. 'Cause you know, Aaron Rodgers. And the year before they had your ass too. You guys were first in the inner city east, but you guys were thirteen to three. Full said lost. I was like, I don't think they only lost one game. That's kind of crazy. We lost three, my bad, my bad. Yeah. Twenty twelve Colts, right? That's his rookie year. We might have lost we might have lost one game with Tony Romo that year. We might have 'cause Tony Romo broke his back. We may have lost one. So you're saying he no, but Prescott played six Prescott played sixteen games his rookie year, bro. See what were the and what were the playoff results? We we we we know we lost in the first round you guys lost in the wild card, you guys lost nine nine to twenty-four to the fucking Ravens. yeah, that was Ray Lewis retirement tour. And then these guys lost in the divisional round, thirty one thirty four to the Packers. So it looks like a rookie quarterback playing against primetime Aaron Rodgers in a shootout. And in a shootout. And we lost because it's Aaron fucking Rodgers. I don't know. Come on, bro. We lost on the Ray Luce retirement tour. They won the R the Ravens won the Super Bowl that year. Twenty sixteen? Yeah, I'm sticking with the Colts Andrew Luck's rookie. We're talking about twenty sixteen. That's Russia's rookie year. No, we're talking about Andrew Luck's rookie year. Andrew Luck twenty twelve. Dak is twenty twelve. See I'ma say this though. I'm picking frickin' Andrew Luck. You watch the game. Andrew Luck had a twenty eight point comeback in the playoffs. You don't have to put the mic closer, bro. Bro, I'm sorry. Bro, look. If Andrew Luck won a Super Bowl? No, nigga. None of them have. Neither one of None of have. Look up. Dak Prescott Dak Prescott is two and five in the playoffs. It was Andrew Luck. What's Andrew Luck? What's Andrew Luck the playoffs? More than two wins for sure. Four and four. Four and four. Exactly, for sure. 100% more playoff wins. We beat Peyton Manning in Higher division. Higher divisions. We beat a number one C Broncos in the playoffs. We gotta face the 49ers every year. What? We play Peyton Manning. Let's Andrew Luck's playoff stats, bro. All right, out of the eight games, he threw 2200 yards, 12 touchdowns. You want to guess how many interceptions he threw? Probably like fourteen. Thirteen interceptions. Yeah. It was a for sure. We've He threw more than that one game against the Chiefs where he came back, he scored full he threw four picks before he came back and won the game. Four picks? Against two had a good defense. Would you say that your four picks put you in that that big hole? What what is Dak's playoff numbers? Well obviously he's played in Obviously Dax played in less playoff games in a longer career. He played seven. Seven. And you got seven to and Andrew Lux played eight. Played eight, yeah. So in Dax seven, he he threw nineteen hundred yards, fourteen touchdowns to only seven interceptions. Hmm. His touchdown percentage is five percent. Lux was like two or one point five, I think. Yeah. One games. Let's look at QBR. One more game, stop it. Let's look at QBR for two more games. Lux rating was seventy three point four. That's eight, right? That's eight. Yeah, and seven. You only have two wins. We have four wins. We're two and five. No, I said more games played. I was talking about wins. I said we were winning games. Would you say that the cut the Colts had always had a better team than Dak Prescott? Overall? Overall team? Yeah. The Colts? Yeah. Please name some players that you remember from our Colts team. Bro, I could probably can't I probably couldn't do the same for Cowboys right now. But overall, A great O line. Who else you had? You have Layton Vander Esch in that in those times. And Josh's defense he was in the NFC. The NFC is the west coast of the fucking NFL. There's always a new juggernaut. He had a he was good for like what two years maybe. Keep getting hurt. So good. I mean you exactly you said you had Zeke, Des Bryant, was he there? Wasn't it C D? You have CeeDee? George Pickens. But what are we talking about over overall? I'm talking about Dak's r teams that he's had. Okay, I I would say that Dak is playing in a more far more competitive like NFL. Every team was like the NFC East has been so competitive for so long. Well, it's not just NFC East, you're playing a lot of NFC teams. Yeah, but you have to win your division to make the playoffs. Right. All right, let's get to the the last segment. we all saw Obsession, right? We all saw Get Out. Right. I will say these two are not obviously they're not the same movie, but they're both psychological thrillers. Mm-hmm. What would you guys say was the better movie? Obsession. I haven't had a lot of time to think Think about this one. But just off the dome, just real quick. Off the dome? Because you remember I haven't watched Get Out in a while though. That's for but when you first watched it, did you feel this I guess it is kind of recency bias. But Yeah, exactly. I remember how I thought when I watched Get Out in the movies. And I wonder how I watched the Science. Off the top of my head. Movie movie experiences. Because I had to watch Get Out at least two times to see how good it really was. Obsession. I have no intention of watching Obsession again. So I that's how I love the theaters too when I I don't want to watch this again, but that was a very great movie. I I think I think there are two different movies. You know? Like for psychological thrillers, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, what I mean is like I can like re watch Halloween or like Saw. And I don't saw like, you know, like the gore of it. I may want to look away at times, but then there's movies like Obsession or Hereditary where it's like fuck like I didn't like how I felt after watching that film. And I don't think one is better than the other. I just think like there's You gotta pick one, bro. Off the top of your head. Pick one. No, but what what I'm saying is like between with that being said, like, in my opinion, I'm still I'm still gonna have to go obsession as well. Okay. But I don't think it's a I don't think it's I don't think you could pair Obsession to Hereditary. I haven't seen Hereditary, I've seen like clips of it, but just from the clips I see I feel like Hereditary is more of a I feel like that's more of a more of a a more of a horror film than Obsession is. Same type Obsession is more of a a a thriller. No, same type. Same exact type. No, I would say yeah, different genre, but like I don't know, bro. Yeah. Character is different. But how was it different? You're saying I say is it how is it I'm saying Miguel said it was different and he saw it. I don't know, just the creepiness of it more. Didn't it have like a lot more like obsession? Wasn't creepy? When she was like when she was asleep and she was like It was a thrill bear that wasn't creepy or when she was in a corner looking at him smiling. Okay, yeah, yeah, but her movements was like the most like demonic thing about her. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying hereditary was that possession. It definitely was. I seen clips. At the end of the movie. The whole you know was demonic, like the last ten minutes. Was a paranormal. Was that movie paranormal? Hereditary. Most of it? No. You don't know what's going on. It's not paranormal. Most of it no. If you said possession for sure, what are you talking about? Who gets possessed? Possession for sure. And hereditary? One hundred percent. Yeah. Who gets possessed and hereditary? Wait. The whole fuck the king I'm getting I'm getting mixed up. Obsession. One hundred percent possession. Yeah, I don't get But she wasn't possessed by a demon though, so it wasn't paranormal. That's what I'm saying. Neither director says so himself, it wasn't paranormal. Nobody was a nobody was possessed. I'm By a demon in an hereditary. No, there was no demon in hereditary. What was a cult? No demon. Okay, let's get back to the get out versus obsession though. Because I feel like the psychological I just gotta read this real quick, and then just so we know that Josh is wrong here again. Artists Annie and her kin are unknownly stalked by a satanic cult, which you said that, yes. No demons. That's why the last ten minutes everyone's No, no, no. You're on Wikipedia. You're on Wikipedia. Because a little girl goes into her brother's body. You're on we're saying more demonic and possession. Rush, how are you negating that? That's it's facts. You even said so yourself. The last ten minutes there was some demon shit in there. I would say what happened to I would say what happened to fucking what's what's the chick's name? Nicky the same way. It wasn't. The director said so himself. That shit was not paranormal. What was it? Who was it? What was she? She was possessed by the wish, not by demons. By the wish. Yeah. By the wish, it wasn't. I don't I didn't make the movie, Josh. Entity. We can't argue what the creator of the content made the intention of the show to be, bro. He made it. You can definitely tell him how can't tell him how his shit's supposed to be. I think it's literally his shit. I think that's what okay. I feel like we have no say in what he want the intention to be put across. You're right, bro. We can't I'm not right. The director of the movie is right. Okay, he's right. Okay. That's fine. Not even get into that. All right, bro. All right. Well, out of get out and obsession, everyone's on the same page as obsession's better. Yeah. Yep. For sure, for sure. I feel like I at least a get out, I didn't have any moments where I like jumped out of my chair and obsession. I definitely did. Definitely not. Actually, no. Remember the one scene when the dude was there he was outside. Running, right? The dude was running towards That's what I'm saying. That was actually the various part for sure. But I didn't jump though. I was like, what the fuck? No, it was just like, shit, you're like, Yeah, but that wasn't nothing until when Nikki ran up to the car, bro. yeah, that my bro. That shit had me jump, I like I was protecting myself. Exactly. I was like, I went through my girl. I defended myself, bro, I promise you. I w thought I was in danger. That's how fucking And I knew it was coming. I feel like we all did. Yeah, I you kind of know something was coming. Because they played music and everything. And it they had the angle, like it was like this and the car windows like this. So you know someone's coming on and this. It was off a little off center. Yeah, you know. And then still it still got me like a little fucking child I am, right? I was in a chair, like, whoa. And I told the person I was at the movies with, I was like, yo, if I were watching this at home, I would have turned it off right when he broke the wish, when she was standing in the doorway. And like all black shadow. Remember when he snapped it and then he looked and saw Nikki at the doorway? And she's yeah, like she already went inside the house, we thought. Yeah. You guys said obsession wasn't supernatural. No, we didn't say it wasn't supernatural. But we're not going back to this. We were saying paranormal. He's still trying to win that argument, bro. But anyways, like I said, if after that scene when she was standing in the doorway, shadowed out, I would I would have turned the movie off by my god, bro. Yeah. And and if I and I was at the theater, I would have left the theater after the part when she was in the corner in the room. I'm leaving, bro. Yeah. I'm leaving. I can't do it. Why the hell? That shit was so fucking avoidable, bro. Did you guys see the the theory about like the real Nikki always came out when she saw her own reflection? And then like you think about it, like that's why when she was sleeping, there's a mirror in the room facing that's what I was about to say, but she was sleeping. Remember she would go to the corner so that she could stay like possessed basically 'cause she didn't want the real Nikki to come out. And then you think about it, there's a bath there's a mirror in the bathroom. So when he left, she sat there and pissed in the living room 'cause she didn't want to go to the bathroom to the to the mirror. And then you think about it, fucking when remember he like, I'm gonna go to the party, she went to go take a shower after she fucking deprecated herself. Yeah. You remember she started screaming and then broke the window, broke the mirror? Because she saw herself in a mirror, Nikki came out, started screaming, ended up breaking the mirror, and then that's why she went back to normal. And is like when Hardy's going across the room. She had like the cloud. Yeah. And then when he when she was kissing him when they were about to have sex, she saw herself flexing in his eyes. And then in the car. Remember she was like, she was sitting in the doorway talking to him and then she looked window and she was like, that was weird. What the fuck happened? 'Cause she saw herself in a rear view mirror. And then when she walked in the room, bro, she had the flower across her face so she didn't see the mirror. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that's what Gervette was saying about the flowers. And I guess she walked backwards so she couldn't see herself in the mirror, bro. And I guess that that first one when she said, what the fuck in the in the car? She saw that shit was like No, I guess so I guess that shit was improv because she forgot like she had forgotten her lines. Someone said that? But but then they yeah, but they kept it in because it matched and you know, it went with the whole thing. It went with the whole thing. Yeah. Cause she looked to the side and you could say like, she saw herself in the mirror. I thought what the fuck, that was weird. That's crazy. I didn't I didn't know that. I didn't I need to watch that shit again, bro. I only watched it once. And I walked up later, like I don't ever want to see that shit again. I don't want to see it number two. I don't want to see it again. Like but then like a couple weeks later I'm like, I kinda wanna see that shit again, bro. That shit. That was a great shit. So avoidable. She I I think I think library was horror movies avoidable. This one was avoidable though, bro. Like obviously he didn't think the wish was gonna really work. Yeah, no. But like I get it for sure. One hundred percent. Yeah. That's the point of like horror movies. Except for fucking exactly, you're right. Except for Chucky. That was that wasn't a little kid's fault. All he did was won a toy and grab the wrong toy. Not as far. I never seen Jackies. Well the rest of like Saw, you should have been doing dumb stuff. This one's Bear's fault. Halloween too. I guess Halloween not fault too. You just I think out of all horror movies, this is probably the most avoidable one because it was so normal. Yeah. And he came back and told him, yo, all he had to do is step up to the plate and swing, bro. That's all he had to do. They thought, bro. This is your banger right here, bro. Right now the middle, bruh. Swing. I'm gonna tell you when to swing. Do it now. Yeah. Is he like top ten worst characters? I don't think he was a bad character though. I love the I love the character. That's why he's a great character, because you you were captivated. No, that's what I mean by like bad characters, not bad riches. I don't think it was a bad I think he was just in a bad situation and just didn't ought to get out of it and then just like it just keep getting kept getting Poor decision making. Poor decision making. He was already a pussy He told her what so bad being with me after all the shit that she was doing. He was still about himself. She asked him, Can you kill me? And he was like, No, I'm just gonna hit that. Josh, Josh, you think you can kill her when she said that? Huh? All the shits. And that and he was still like processing what was going on. After she said kill me, I immediately the rest of the movie would have been me. Finding ways to save her. And I and I would have bought more than one. No, you know what got me? When he when he said what's so wrong being me, that like, Alright, I can't fuck with this dude no more. And then the second one was when he said he was like, Can I alter the wish? Yeah. He tried to alter that for. Making that wish is crazy. Never blames himself for loving more than anybody else. Anybody else, nigga? Why can't you wish I would have wished for it I don't believe in taking on someone's autonomy. But if you're gonna take he didn't think it gonna work, bro. We can't blame him for the wish. He did not think it was gonna work. He was just in the moment, wish Willow. I wish I should love anyone in the fucking world. Like Yeah, he wasn't thinking about the wish, bro. He's grieving. He was grieving. She's the only one that showed him real emotion. Obviously, he had his homie. Your homie's not gonna come for you like a girl will. And I think he had a crowd. She like if you if you watched a movie. You can see that him and the Asian girl already had a prior relationship. Remember, she texted him, Let's meet at our usual spot. So no. That nigga just a bitch. No, she didn't know. She did not cover him like Nikki. Nikki he had already had a crush he already had a crush on Nikki prior. And then once his grandma died, Nikki showed him extra more attention. Now you have a crush on a girl that you have a secret crush on, and now she's showing you mad love. Now that's a girl starting when you when you have a crush on a girl. When you have a question of a girl, you think it's more than it actually is. She was just being a good friend. They were all being good friends. She was toying with him, bro. You saw in the beginning of the movie, bro, she was playing with him. She knew that he liked her also. That's why she stopped and was like, Do you like me? You don't just I'm randomly thinking that he likes me. She knew. Everybody knew, bro. Yeah. Which was which makes him a pussy because she was lining it up for him to hit it out of the park, bro. I think she would have curved bro. I think she would have curved bro. I think a hundred percent. People said no, she would have liked she would have She gonna give him some goodbye. No, no, she was gonna or or give him some goodbye pussy because she was leaving. Nah. I th I thought she was just leaving the job. I don't think she was moving. No, she no she was moving. She was leaving the job. She was quitting the job, bro. She just wanted to do something else. Yeah. That no but when I when it said she was like quitting that job and then leaving. Like you know, you have problems with a dad. Regardless, she was not I think she was gonna curb him, but like you should try to go with other girl. Yeah, but 'cause they were already talking about Bear, and she said that she friends on them talking to the other girl. And she was with the other dude, his homie. So she was. Yeah, they were fucking they were like casual shit. It was already like a weird thing. Knocking that shit down. Yeah. Ian my dog. My dog Ian's my n I fuck with Ian. I just think that movie made you think more than get out, and they both were psychological thrillers. Get out definitely makes you think. I disagree with that. I disagree with that. Get out made me get out made I did a whole project on Get Out in my So Deep. Get Out So Deep. There's a lot of different things. I don't think that's that deep at all. I think it's gonna be like one dimensional. One dimensional. I think it's very straightforward. I think my little brother had different opinions about Like if she was gonna fuck with him for real or not. Well well no things like analyzing character and like Yeah, yeah. Things that are open up for interpretation isn't necessarily deep, like does she like him or not? What should she do? This is hypothetical. Deep is like the hidden message behind it. Yeah. What's get out's hidden what's get out's hidden message? I'm not what you what do you think it is? Apparently you don't know. I'm asking you, I'm asking you. I would say getting out is hidden message would be more things like people like taking advantage of what taking what they have. Like the white people wanted certain things from the black people and like you can set in a rural society instead of someone working hard for something they just want to take, you connect it with that. You connect it with sounds like I mean white you can you can what are you saying? Sounds like obsession. Or you can take it with people like how in the in sports there's a lot of black and other minorities who are playing the sports But there's very little like own black or fuck I am drunk, black only and shit like that. I would say that that you see that in the message. I would say obsession only shows you like if you take someone's autonomy while they get in bad. They took people's autonomy and get out too. No, no, look. But we're trying to take the main characters of autonomy. I Yeah. I don't know what the difference is. I don't know how much they how much it costs to make get out. But it seemed like the cinema cinematography was at a higher level to the point where they were adding like little Easter eggs within. And I that's what I'm saying, I gotta watch maybe I gotta watch Obsession again, and it's just recency bias. But it also just felt like get out had a lot more like things that you can miss and then rewatch and be like, like this. Like I remember the part that I like blew my mind was at the end when she's eating her fruit loops in a bowl. With a book sample over it? in her milk feverly and she didn't miss her colors with her whites. So I was like, Whoa, like that's just a little deep and it's not like making it a better movie because again, but it's just deeper. It's just got more than I think I like you said, there's definitely Get Out definitely had a way better a bigger budget because Pill was already was already a that was that was his first first show his first movie but he was already a a famous person. So he had more memes. Yeah he had he had a T V show. Yeah more memes than the act the director for this one. But Even the music too. Yeah, and the actors. The actors, what's the name? Lake. Yeah, they had a they a comedian Daniel Kal Kalu Kaluya. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, Daniel yeah, then Lakeith. Yeah. Yeah, they had Lil'Ray Howard. Lil Ray Howard. Yeah. Way bigger. Way big. They had way more than It wasn't that stacked, but I mean still I know what you mean. Like just the budget was definitely way more. Yeah. I just that's what I was about to say. I think that the thing about Get Out and Obsession, Obsession, obviously the one with Willow is super fake. Obviously, it's just not real. Yeah. But that that movie felt way more real than Get Out did. You know what I mean? So that's why it's kind of that's why I feel like that movie hit harder because like you can easily put yourself in Bearsfoot shoes. Obviously, we wouldn't have done that, what he did, but let's say we did. We're in his wearing his shoes, and you're like, yo, how do I get this? girl to get back to normal without me killing myself or killing her. Exactly. He didn't even try to do that. Yeah, get out, you just I gotta I just gotta leave or fight for mys fight for myself. There's a it's a way better outcome in get out than there is for obsession. Obsession you gotta be a murderer or suicide. That's the only outcome for that pool. I would say that that is the point to get out. It's like why is this person in Get Out? They didn't have the choice. They didn't make a mistake. They're just black. Get out, yeah get it. But once you figure out what situation you're in, once you realize the situation you're in, it's easier. The outcome is better than the obsession's outcome. That's what I was saying. Because you can fight your way out. It's just a cold cut or like a quick cut. It's like I can leave. I can try to fight my way out. I can I can defend myself. I can leave. Or I can kill these people and not be o and be okay with it. Obsession, if I leave, she's still gonna be crazy. She's gonna find me, do some crazy shit to find me, or she's gonna do some crazy shit to herself. I don't know. Or I have to kill myself for her to be normal. You gotta live with the fact that she's not normal unless you kill yourself. You know what I would have done? no. I just would have kept trying to ask people, Can you say this wish for me? Can you say this? That was great idea. That was a great idea. That was the only I would that's the only successful thing you can do. After they s come I'm I'm gonna admit, if I'm there, I'm probably not gonna kill myself either. Like, you know that's why I think that was so hard for him to come to terms with. I know. And then he was definitely He was definitely selfish. Like Yeah, and something we were talking about over here was that he definitely I feel like he definitely h didn't held hold himself accountable to stuff. Cause even in the beginning when his cat died and he had the pills on the ground, he's like, How'd you get into those pills? No, bro, you left out the fucking pills, bro. I didn't think about that. It's definitely you only get into the pills that those things are like hold down twists and open, bro. Like those are not those are which is open for You have them open, bro. A tag and chew through a pill bottle. But okay. He was grieving though, bro. He was grieving 'cause he popped the he popped the thing right back on. No, because he popped it back on and put it back in the cabinet. You don't know what. If they could cack and chew through it, I think they could. I I I I I know it wasn't broken. The pill paddle wasn't broken. It wasn't broken. no, my one was it just falled in. It was just open. It was open. Because he just closed it back up and put it back in. But bro was like s significantly grieving though, bro. So like a lot of his mental state. From from what I got it was like his grandma was de was dead for quite a while. He just he was just a pussy. Bro, he was I think she died recently. She wasn't she wasn't yeah, it's been less than a couple months. And that's your grandma's. I was thinking over a year. I don't know how long it was. Less than I'm assuming. I'm saying for sure less than assuming. I thought it was over a year. He was grieving, he was lonely, his cat just died, and then he had a crush a big crush with this girl because during that grieving phase she was the only one showing him real love. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna rewash this shit, you know. I need to, but it's been it's been a minute since I've seen it. You see that you saw that there's this theory that she was just trying to be like his cat. She was trying to be like his cat. 'Cause he's 'cause she knows how much he loved her cat his cat? I I n I don't see how she I'm trying to like think of like the points it probably. They were saying she was cat like, how she was hiding inside in the shadows. Yeah, embodying him. So that goes against what JD's thing about it being the mirror. What what do you mean? They're saying the reason why she was in a corner and doing that so they're hiding behind the thing is because she was acting like a cat. You're saying she was doing that because of the mirror. She was walking backwards to not look at the mirrors. I know, but I that's what I'm saying. I think that was the case. She wasn't acting like a cat. She was just Hiding from the mirrors. I'm agreeing. Yeah, but yeah, so she's trying to like he he she wants to imitate things that he loves. Cause something that Jovet said that she was wearing Sarah's hair at the end. And her tattoos. And her tattoos. So she's imitating things that you know that he was interested in. Yeah, we don't show And the dress. Did he what? And the dress. Yeah. So She's imitating things that he she thinks that he's interested in. It was him sleeping in that scene. yeah, that shit was kind of creepy. That shit was creepy as fuck. On the TV. she was recording him sleep? Yeah, that was on the TV in the last scene, bro. Yeah. Maybe I do gotta rewatch it. Fuck. Yeah, no, it was crazy. I was looking at him like, what the fuck's on the TV? I'm like, that's that motherfucker sleeping. When she pop when she popped the homie when he came in there? Homie. yeah. That's sleep, bro. I gotta be honest. I saw the pictures and I saw someone draw not me and then the person that fed me cat is like, alright, bro, you gotta immediately start trying to fix the polar. not me? You're talking about the pol the Polaroid? Yeah, and when it easy cat was like thirty minutes in. And that nigga was still still hitting that shit. He's a piece of shit. She still gotta realize it was so surreal, like how can how can this wish that I bought for two ninety nine really go? I'm not talking about him making a wish, I'm talking about every action after. Nigga, I'm Yeah, 'cause I mean there were signs. He knew that she was acting weird, bro. Because he was starting to believe it pretty early on. And she said something about her dad. She said something about her d she was grieving over dad. So he started saying, like, okay, that's why she's acting weird. She kept giving him these fucking weird ass reasons, bro. Why she was that was super early. That was super early. The f when she was at the car. Right after you make the wish. She She was hitting hitting the whole movie, bruh. Dead dead ass, I gotta be honest with you. Let's say if like I made a w a which something like that, let's say Or like, you know, like I made a dumb wish or s or something, and then like it kinda happened a few moments later. I'll be like, hmm, no way. It's just yeah, it's surreal, bro. I would think about it. I would think about it. But no but she's like, dude, my dad, I'm just really stuffed. My dad has cancer. And then everybody knows she has a weird relationship with her dad. And they're like, What the f well he doesn't know anything about her dad. No, at point The she doesn't fuck with her dad. I don't think he actually knew that until the home game. Until yeah, until he was told until he was told that in his power to make sure like he wasn't crazy and that she wasn't crazy. Exactly. Everything was normal. It's such a surreal concept. You're like, there's no way this is real. Okay, this has to make sense, 'cause she said her dad. Okay, that makes sense. She said sh sick, that makes sense. He's gonna find reading. I think she They all knew the relationship they have with the dad. In in the beginning of the movie, she talks about her relationship with her dad. Bro, at the diner he called the homie at the diner and he was like, Yo, she says she's upset about her dad, all this. He was like, Bro, do you know that she doesn't know her dad? He was like, What? Are you serious? That's not what happened. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. He told her the board. That's when he started feeling weird. In the beginning of the movie, when he when Bear is driving her to her house She talks about how she doesn't have a relationship with her dad and why she's quitting the place and leaving. That's in the beginning of the movie. You already know the relationship she has with her dad. That's why he was like, she was already talking about her dad in the car, and then she tells me her dad has cancer. That's why he believed in two things. When he calls her in the beginning of the movie, she means she's dead, one hundred percent. That she doesn't fuck with her dad? I don't remember her saying that in a car ride either, bro. Me either. I remember her saying she loved she wants to feel real love until she wants to quit the job. I don't remember her saying anything about her dad. Yeah, until the cancer part. But I whether that's true or Cancer part is when she was already possessed. That's when that's the first time she brought him up. That's why that's the first time she brought up the dad. And so when he brought up, he called he literally called the homie at the diner and was like, She's feel she's really shaken up 'cause he was like, Bro, you gotta talk to Nikki. She's acting weird. He's like, Yeah, ever since her dad. He's What you talking about? She hasn't talked to her dad ever. She doesn't never talk to her dad. He was like, Wait, what are you talking about? She her dad with him like that. Then then he went to the diner. He went back to sit down. He was like, Hey, you told me your dad was sick. What's up with that? And she was like, no, we're not gonna do this. That's because he said that the doctor doesn't know about her dad, all that stuff. He reached research because it started not making sense. But he still did everything in his power to make sure that that was the truth. Cause he's crazy. Yeah, he's crazy for sure. And he's obsessed, bro. That's that movie. They both obsessed. Yeah, he was obsessed. That movie, like all that stuff was his fault for sure. But 100%. Yeah. I didn't know when he was in the in the bathroom and he was taking the pills. Trying to take the pill. He was trying to regurgitate it. Yeah. And he stopped. I didn't hear until somebody told me. I didn't hear the music in the in the snap. hear the snap? I didn't hear it. So when he got up and I was like, what the foot is he doing? I was like, I was the my thought process was like, he's trying to get one more last fuck before he dies. No, he's a coward. I thought he was fucking I thought this was some weird shit. Like, yeah. So they were saying that he done I was like, here we go. And then I saw the woman's brother around, they zoomed in on it. But then I was thinking, like, she did it. He snapped into reality. Wouldn't he want to like keep trying to regurgitate it so he could stay alive with her? You know what I Once she makes a wish, I want him to love me forever. Wouldn't he do everything in his power to stay alive to so we can so they can be together? But as soon as she snapped it, he stopped trying to save himself. And he just went there with her and then died. Yeah. I never thought about that, but maybe it's just like them switching like whatever that thing is within the wish. He just still didn't realize he swallowed pills. He just went straight to like, I wanna I wanna love this girl. Fuck whatever I'm doing right now. Exactly. That's how powerful the obsession is. Who got the hack of week? I do. You wanna knock it out real quick? Sir. All right. Hack of the week. Let's see what we got the episode. Hack of the week, just be financially responsible, bruh. Get your money right. Don't matter don't matter what job you got, I feel like you could save up money with whatever job you have. I mean, if you're struggling to to save money, bruh, just listen to some Larry June. It'll let you know bruh there's nothing wrong with that slow grind, that steady grind. Fucking take care of yourself. Just you know, get your money right, bruh. 'Cause you don't want What did you buy recently for you to come up with this hack of week? No, I haven't bought anything. You haven't done any financial responsible. Nah. I am buying tickets for for Germany. Yeah, no. I no I'm just saying be financially responsible, bruh, because I don't know, I feel like you don't want to be you don't wanna be you know, stress about money when there's other things that you're stressing about. Cause chances are if you're stressing about money, that's not the only thing you're stressing about, bro. Do you guys believe money will buy you happiness? Yes, one hundred percent. It can buy you happiness. That I was gonna say that for how you really feel in the future. Or we can put a down payment on it for Sure Ski. A hundred percent could put a down payment on it. Because I feel like if you're not happy with money, this the money's not the issue. It's something else going on. It's not your life. It's money can buy happiness, bro. I've bought a lot of things that have made me made me happy. I was smiling while I was looking at it. I was like, yeah. Yeah, broad on GTA makes you smile for sure. When I get that paycheck after a couple extra hours of of on that shift, I get a little happy. I think money can buy happiness, but it can maintain happiness. Yeah. Anything anything tangible can't maintain happiness. Unless it's the drug. Yeah, 'cause I'll have a lot of fun making those first initial purchases, but it'll get to a point. But when it when when it gets to that point, it's not the money that's making you unhappy. It's whatever. I guess that's the point of the the same. The money won't buy you happiness. Yeah. That's just the point. Money can definitely buy happiness. I think Money can buy money for happiness most of the time. Money can buy some people happy. I think money can buy happiness. I thought buy you happiness, you need to go talk to a therapist. Yeah, yeah. Bruh. I if I when I pay my rent, bruh, I'm happy I got a roof over my head, bro. Let let's say for example, if I became a billionaire, I think all of us would be happier. I think a hundred percent. Yes. I'm I'm I'm paying for you. I'll prepare your week. Let's go. I'm I'm over here, I'll be Yeah. I'll be spending money on family members like bro. Yeah. I'm happy, you're gonna be happy, but everyone's gonna be family members. Everyone's gonna have a belly, a billion dollars. For us, people that like live without money, obviously when we get money we know how happy we'll be. Like how much it could make us happy. But like people that are like accumulated the money, it's easier for them not to be happy with money because like this is what they're used to, you know what I mean? One hundred percent. But I'm not saying but that doesn't mean it can't buy hap happiness. Uh-huh. That's what I'm saying. Like you have so much money in the world, you you you already can't buy happiness. You're just so used to being rich and like you you getting more rich. I mean you were probably buying happiness in your ear in your long young life, still bought you happiness. Bought a new car, you're probably happy with that purchase. I just feel like that's saying it's coming from rich people. Money can't buy you happiness. Yeah, for sure. One hundred percent. It's not coming from a normal people like you guys, 'cause I'm not a normal person, you know what I mean. Just because I'm saying money can't buy happiness doesn't mean That nothing can bring you sadness. That's Yeah. Yeah. That's multi by sadness. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because anything can happen, bruh. But and I think that like a lot of people if like if you're paying all your bills on time, bruh, and maybe you don't have as much as everyone else, it doesn't make you broke. I think there's like if if you're broke, bruh, you're not paying. Don't do no one with Willows. Work for your love, you know what I mean? Dak Prescott's better than Andrew Luck. No, bruh. See? Jalen Brown trade was one of the worst trades in history. LeBron doesn't need to go to the Cavs. US High. Alright, these people are targeting me. He's the breath of the bitch. I'm not grabbing to the bad statement. Nah, because Andrew Luck is definitely better than Dak Prescott. Alright man, that's the hackbox. Thanks for tuning in. Make sure you guys stay tapped in every single week. we got new episodes every week. we were talking about the sports, talking about pop culture, whatever you can name, bruh. We got it. Stay tapped in, it's the hack box, bruh.