Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / David W. Zaas, MD, MBA, Chief Executive Officer of Duke University Health System
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- 0:51- Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Kelly
- 0:54- Guiche, managing editor at Becker's, and I'm excited
- 0:56- to be joined today by doctor David Zoss,
- 0:58- CEO of Duke University Health System. Doctor. Zoss
- 1:01- brings decades of experience as a physician researcher
- 1:03- and healthcare executive, including leadership roles at Duke
- 1:06- Health, MUSC Health, and Atrium
- 1:08- Health Wake Forest Baptist. He assumed the CEO
- 1:10- role at Duke University Health System this spring
- 1:12- and is helping lead one one of the
- 1:14- nation's premier academic health systems through a period
- 1:16- of significant change across health care. Doctor Zoss,
- 1:19- thank you so much for joining us. And
- 1:20- before we dive in, I'd love for you
- 1:22- to introduce yourself and share a bit more
- 1:23- about your background.
- 1:25- Now thank you, Kelly, for the invitation and
- 1:28- the the chance to join you
- 1:30- today. You know,
- 1:31- as you mentioned, I've had the good fortune
- 1:34- of now over twenty five years
- 1:36- in health care and really grown from a
- 1:39- physician scientist and passionate around
- 1:42- the impact that academic medicine makes,
- 1:45- the chance to grow up for almost twenty
- 1:47- years,
- 1:48- as part of Duke Health, as well as
- 1:50- some amazing learning opportunities across, two other leading
- 1:54- academic health systems. But there's
- 1:56- nothing better than getting the chance to come
- 1:58- back home,
- 1:59- to where you grew up and trained and
- 2:01- what really is family to me. So thank
- 2:03- you for allowing me to be here.
- 2:05- Absolutely. And I'd love to talk more about
- 2:08- coming back to Duke here. You as as
- 2:10- we said, you came back as CEO this
- 2:12- spring
- 2:13- and curious what maybe looked different
- 2:15- when you walked back in and what surprised
- 2:18- you most about how the system had changed,
- 2:22- as well just in evolved over over the
- 2:25- years.
- 2:27- The most amazing
- 2:28- observation during my first few weeks is really
- 2:31- the depth
- 2:32- of the clinical excellence
- 2:34- and the commitment to innovation that really defines
- 2:38- Duke Health.
- 2:39- From my prior experience and roles here, I
- 2:42- knew there were so many great things. But
- 2:45- in the time period, right, over these last
- 2:47- seven years,
- 2:49- the depth of expertise,
- 2:51- the strength of the clinical
- 2:54- research programs,
- 2:56- the amount, and extent of the integration
- 2:59- between the health system,
- 3:01- our faculty practice,
- 3:03- and the school of medicine really creates a
- 3:05- unique
- 3:06- environment and an opportunity for Duke to really
- 3:10- transform health care.
- 3:11- And that depth
- 3:13- has been so impressive.
- 3:16- In addition, there's this commitment to innovation,
- 3:19- the commitment to redefining
- 3:21- what we do in health care that touches
- 3:23- all of our team members, both our physicians,
- 3:25- our scientists,
- 3:27- to our nurses that I think is energizing
- 3:30- as I get to go see so many
- 3:31- of our different clinics and hospitals.
- 3:35- Yes. And I wanted to ask more too
- 3:38- about just, of course, the research mission, as
- 3:41- you as you mentioned too, just being a
- 3:42- huge part
- 3:44- of Duke and and what makes the system
- 3:46- Duke in itself. And it's also, of course,
- 3:49- just a part of what federal policy is
- 3:52- addressing right now and is really lots of
- 3:54- changes there, of course. So how are you
- 3:56- really thinking about protecting
- 3:58- that research mission through
- 4:00- through this evolving health care environment right now?
- 4:04- I think it's so important for us to
- 4:07- realize
- 4:07- that for Duke Health, research is our key
- 4:10- differentiator.
- 4:12- That commitment to academic medicine really is, right,
- 4:15- the r and d engine
- 4:16- that's gonna drive
- 4:18- care transformation.
- 4:20- And access to clinical research
- 4:23- is really foundational
- 4:24- and almost envisioned as a key quality measure
- 4:28- for what we're doing at Duke Health.
- 4:30- And I think despite the turbulent times and
- 4:32- the challenges that we face,
- 4:35- that commitment to our academic mission, to the
- 4:37- research and education,
- 4:39- right, is just a a key part of
- 4:41- our values. And it's important
- 4:43- to think
- 4:44- as we approach our centennial.
- 4:46- Right? The next hundred years of Duke Health
- 4:49- are gonna be shaped
- 4:50- by that research
- 4:51- that's happening
- 4:53- today. So
- 4:54- we're looking actually to continue to say, how
- 4:56- do we strategically
- 4:57- continue to grow and invest
- 5:00- in our research portfolio?
- 5:02- How do we embed research across both our
- 5:05- academic center and our community hospitals?
- 5:07- How do we embed it across our virtual
- 5:09- care platforms
- 5:11- to realize that patient centered care for Duke
- 5:13- Health
- 5:14- is gonna involve access
- 5:17- to the clinical research and innovative care delivery
- 5:20- that people expect from the leading academic health
- 5:23- system.
- 5:25- Absolutely. And looking forward to to continuing to
- 5:29- stay updated there on on everything that that
- 5:31- continues to to evolve with the mission.
- 5:34- And you've talked also before about just thinking
- 5:36- beyond cost cutting and and tough moments and,
- 5:39- of course, the industry and and having a
- 5:41- lot of pressures
- 5:43- currently. And so curious what's something you're doing
- 5:46- at Duke right now that you think other
- 5:48- systems maybe
- 5:50- wouldn't expect right now?
- 5:54- So I think other health systems would be
- 5:56- surprised to learn about Duke's broad
- 6:00- commitment to expand access,
- 6:04- create care close to home for our communities,
- 6:08- and really building a platform solution that enables
- 6:11- access
- 6:12- to Duke
- 6:14- Health right across the region, across the country.
- 6:18- Duke's known, right, as this leading
- 6:21- academic medical center,
- 6:23- but our commitment and our impact goes so
- 6:26- much further beyond it.
- 6:28- And as we expand into different communities and
- 6:31- as we identify
- 6:33- new partners,
- 6:35- we adopt a queue a few key principles.
- 6:38- The best care
- 6:39- is closer to home or in your home.
- 6:43- The best care includes access
- 6:46- to innovation,
- 6:47- research, and specialization,
- 6:49- but also connects with your family and your
- 6:52- support network that is so important.
- 6:55- And so how we build our solutions
- 6:58- and we really spread the quality,
- 7:01- the expertise
- 7:03- across
- 7:04- North Carolina and beyond
- 7:07- is something that I think is really gonna
- 7:09- shape Duke Health for the future in a
- 7:11- way that many academic health systems have not
- 7:14- done in the past.
- 7:16- And that commitment to access
- 7:18- is absolutely essential. We've redefined access as a
- 7:22- key quality measure
- 7:24- that we assume responsibility
- 7:26- for the care of patients and families
- 7:28- from the moment that they reach out
- 7:31- for our help,
- 7:33- and insisting that, right, Duke Health will be
- 7:35- able to provide that. So I'm really excited
- 7:38- about what the future
- 7:39- and to share so many others where Duke
- 7:41- Health is going.
- 7:44- Absolutely. And I wanted to talk with you
- 7:46- too, doctor Zoss, about the workforce component, of
- 7:49- course. And
- 7:50- I I know we've established
- 7:51- where
- 7:52- the financial pressures and every systems budget really
- 7:55- tightening right now. But,
- 7:57- well, as far as the workforce, how do
- 7:59- you really
- 8:00- look at keeping your best clinical and research
- 8:03- employees and and also just keep them energized
- 8:05- about about their work right now?
- 8:08- We think of three components
- 8:11- that are important for this retention. Our focus
- 8:14- on culture,
- 8:15- innovation,
- 8:17- and this commitment
- 8:18- to excellence that defines Duke Health. And I
- 8:21- really think all three
- 8:23- are so important.
- 8:26- In my first few weeks, I've had a
- 8:28- chance to visit our different hospitals
- 8:30- and our clinics and our team members.
- 8:33- And everywhere I go, I see examples of
- 8:36- how they're living our culture commitments,
- 8:39- putting people first,
- 8:42- being clear to empower,
- 8:44- and adapting to improve.
- 8:47- They're so much more than slogans. They demonstrated
- 8:50- in their behaviors
- 8:52- and in their values.
- 8:54- I get a chance to ask them why,
- 8:57- are they here at Duke Health, and what
- 8:58- are they most excited about?
- 9:01- And almost universally, the answer is the team
- 9:04- that I'm a part of,
- 9:06- the excellence that they know that they get
- 9:08- to uniquely deliver,
- 9:11- and that focus,
- 9:12- on innovation and how they are empowered
- 9:15- to help redefine
- 9:17- that care delivery.
- 9:18- So when I look at you know, as
- 9:21- we continue to grow,
- 9:22- ensuring that those culture commitments
- 9:25- are real,
- 9:27- ensuring that that commitment
- 9:30- to excellence and innovation
- 9:33- exists and thrives and grows
- 9:36- even despite the headwinds that we're facing in
- 9:39- health care today.
- 9:41- And and we're so fortunate, right, that that
- 9:43- leads to some of the best that we've
- 9:45- seen in terms of our growth and retention
- 9:48- numbers for amongst our teams.
- 9:53- Yes. And
- 9:55- so I know we've talked about, of course,
- 9:57- the research mission, the workforce, and and where
- 10:00- Duke is really headed. So a year from
- 10:02- now, curious what
- 10:04- do you most wanna be able to say
- 10:05- that Duke really accomplished during this period?
- 10:09- One year from now, we'll be able to
- 10:11- say that Duke is really charting
- 10:14- its own path
- 10:16- to be the leading academic medical center
- 10:20- committed to its people and to the patients
- 10:23- that it gets to serve.
- 10:26- I think despite the challenges,
- 10:28- we've embraced this growth mindset
- 10:31- across our clinical
- 10:33- and academic mission,
- 10:35- bringing the integration
- 10:37- of the school
- 10:38- and the health system and the faculty practice
- 10:41- together
- 10:42- as one Duke Health.
- 10:45- We'll also be able to look back
- 10:47- and see, you know, the accelerated
- 10:50- growth rates in the number of unique lives
- 10:53- and patients
- 10:55- that we get the privilege
- 10:56- to to care for
- 10:58- as part of Duke Health. So I I
- 11:00- think, again, living our culture commitments,
- 11:03- investing and empowering our people,
- 11:06- embracing, you know, truly one integrated system,
- 11:10- the future of Duke Health,
- 11:12- is so bright. And I am confident that
- 11:14- we will build on the tradition of excellence,
- 11:17- and look forward a year from now to
- 11:19- say, you know, we're even further along in
- 11:22- that journey,
- 11:23- to be the top academic
- 11:25- medical center in the country.
- 11:28- Yeah. Thank you so much, doctor Zoss, for
- 11:31- a great conversation today, and thank you so
- 11:33- much for connecting. And I hope to
- 11:35- continue the conversation
- 11:36- in the future.
- 11:38- Thank you, Kelly, for the opportunity and for
- 11:40- everything you do and allowing me to share
- 11:42- some of the stories.
- 11:44- Absolutely. Thank you.