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10-7: Essential parts of the Seahawks defense and Matt Barrows with a 49ers preview · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KKRFM
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  Speaker 1: Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, happy Wednesday from Seahawks headquarters in Renton, the
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Headlines are brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: Frostbrook Coors Light, as cold as the Rockies. The Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: have made official here in the last few minutes that
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  Speaker 2: they have indeed signed running back Robert Henry Jr. off
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  Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders practice squad, as reported a couple nights ago.
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  Speaker 2: He goes straight on to the 53-man roster, which is
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  Speaker 2: why I think he's going to play. Undrafted rookie from
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  Speaker 2: Texas San Antonio is now a Seahawk after the Joe
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  Speaker 2: Mixon failure of passing a physical. The Seahawks also announced
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  Speaker 2: they assigned running back Dante McMillan to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: They're trying to get hold for their game Sunday against
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  Speaker 2: the 4-0 San Francisco 49ers for the NFC West lead
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  Speaker 2: at Lumen Field. I'll be watching today at practice to
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  Speaker 2: see if Leonard Williams is able to be on the
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  Speaker 2: field after that ankle injury got late in the Chargers game.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Cotta, I know, they sure could use him this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: And Ty Okada returned to practice last week. The safety
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  Speaker 2: was yet to play this season. We'll see if he's
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  Speaker 2: on the field today. Zach Charbonnet, Mike McDonald said earlier
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  Speaker 2: this week, might be taking team reps this week, though
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  Speaker 2: he is not going to play. And then I'll see
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  Speaker 2: if Henry's on. I'm expecting him to be on the field.
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  Speaker 2: And as I said, in the lineup, at least for depth.
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  Speaker 2: On Sunday, the Kraken lost 6-2 at home to the
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  Speaker 2: Vegas Golden Knights last night. Bad luck. Brandon Montour's broken
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  Speaker 2: stick on a slap shot from the point. Led to
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  Speaker 2: a goal when it was 2-0 and a cracker on
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  Speaker 2: the power play early in the second period. Game turned
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  Speaker 2: on that. Montour was fighting Vegas' captain by the end
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  Speaker 2: of the match. We'll talk about that later. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: liked that.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of liked it.
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  Speaker 2: Did you? Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan on RKJR pointed out the good news for
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken is they play the Calgary Flames again on
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  Speaker 2: October 30th.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: The only team they've beaten so far. Kraken's next game
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  Speaker 2: is Friday at Detroit. Start of a five-game road trip.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be right here on KJR. Major League Baseball playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: The Brewers and Padres are playing a really good series
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  Speaker 2: right now. It's 2-1 Milwaukee after the San Diego's 4-3
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  Speaker 2: home win last night. Dodgers beat the Braves. Best pitcher
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  Speaker 2: Chris Sale in Atlanta. So LA has a two games
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  Speaker 2: to one lead in that best of five. Today it's
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  Speaker 2: the American League. Chicago's at home trying to close out
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland up 2-0. The White Sox are. And the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: come home to the Bronx down 2-0 to Tampa Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Cora is declining to manage the Phillies as he
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  Speaker 2: was offered to do for next season. He says he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to manage anybody in 2027. So maybe not
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners either. The NFL canceled Kyle Juszczyk's fine for
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  Speaker 2: celebrating that the league had interpreted as a beer chug
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  Speaker 2: and now realized it was chugging juice. That's his nickname,
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Juszczyk's juice. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What was that?
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  Speaker 2: Don't think of other things to do like. Officials who
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  Speaker 2: push players.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it was a beer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Now this break sponsored by Bud Light.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Odo Beckham Jr. cut by the Giants, signing with the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings practice squad. The Washington Huskies return home after their loss.
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  Speaker 2: Should have been a win at USC. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: play a Friday night game, robbing the high school teams
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  Speaker 2: of their spotlight. Friday night at Husky Stadium. Thanks, TV.
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  Speaker 2: 6 p.m. right here on KJR. There's like five national
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  Speaker 2: TV games on Friday night for college football. That's just ridiculous. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let the high school kids play on Friday night. We'll
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  Speaker 2: still have our high school football focus on Friday, regardless
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  Speaker 2: of the Huskies playing on Friday night here on KJR.
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  Speaker 2: Washington State Cougars. Jessamyn's going to be in Ogden, Utah.
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  Speaker 2: They play Friday at 6 p.m. Another Friday game at
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  Speaker 2: Utah State. And Lionel Messi scored a goal and shed
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  Speaker 2: tears in his final national team match for Argentina. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how Anders is even getting to work
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  Speaker 2: these days. Nah, he limped in. His wife probably must
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  Speaker 2: be terrified.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to stay at work for the next
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  Speaker 3: 12 hours.
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  Speaker 2: Now on with the Wednesday show. Seahawks and the 49ers
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  Speaker 2: playing on Sunday. I'm out here for the practice press
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  Speaker 2: conference and locker room day. Greg Bell and Jessalyn McIntyre
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  Speaker 2: as we are every weekday, 10 a.m. to noon. Jessalyn's
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  Speaker 2: back at the Elliott Bay Studios in foggy downtown Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: Very lonely.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, left you again. It's okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay. I'm getting used to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry. Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Football season descends.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And Greg is just a peace out person.
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  Speaker 2: We're split. Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 3: But that, you know what, gives us two angles.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go with that.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I'm told this is National Coaches Day. Is
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  Speaker 2: that true?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a National Everything Day, but I guess so.
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  Speaker 2: You should say hi to your dad for that, right? Well,
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  Speaker 2: you would say hi anyway, but yeah. Coach Mack back
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  Speaker 2: in Long Island.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, return of the Mack. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: National Coaches Day. Coaches all out there, including our high
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  Speaker 2: school coaches that we focus on every Friday. Happy Coaches Day,
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  Speaker 2: if it is that. I was told it was that.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Coaches Day to them. What we got on the
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  Speaker 2: show today, what are the Seahawks doing about all their penalties? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they're yelling at each other. Ernest Jones talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: Bad luck for the Kraken last night. Then fighting. And
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  Speaker 2: then Ian Furness, strong play-by-play night for Ian last night
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  Speaker 2: on the TV side.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he sounded so good.
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  Speaker 2: He did.
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  Speaker 3: And he looked fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: You only see the people who are calling on TV
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  Speaker 4: every once in a while, but that hair was on point.
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  Speaker 2: He does have like the gray fox, silver fox thing going,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't he?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he aged really well.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go live to the Bay Area at 11 o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to my pal Matt Barrows about
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  Speaker 2: the 4-0 49ers, about Brock Purdy, 11 touchdowns against just
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  Speaker 2: one interception. The number that jumped out at me most
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  Speaker 2: when I was looking at the 49ers, Jess, third down percentage,
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  Speaker 2: conversion percentage for the 49ers right now is 57.5% through
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  Speaker 2: four games.
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  Speaker 3: That's a scary number.
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  Speaker 2: That's really high.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that tells me they're succeeding on first down. And
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  Speaker 2: much of the success the Seahawks had last year in
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  Speaker 2: throttling Kyle Shanahan's offense in three games was limiting them
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  Speaker 2: on first and second down, limiting Christian McCaffrey in particular.
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  Speaker 2: and causing third and longs, which is not where Brock
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  Speaker 2: Ferdie and Shanahan want to be. And Nick Emanwari was
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  Speaker 2: the main reason for that. And that's the key to
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  Speaker 2: this game for me coming up, is Emanwari being the
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  Speaker 2: full 2025 Emanwari, which he hinted like he was ready
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  Speaker 2: to do, and the Seahawks are ready to use him
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  Speaker 2: at it in the Chargers game. Remember I talked about
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  Speaker 2: he played 79% of the snaps, up from 52% in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: And he was playing at all three levels. He wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just in the slot covering and dropping off the line
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  Speaker 2: like he was in Washington. He was he was on
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  Speaker 2: a four point stance as a defensive end. He was
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  Speaker 2: blitzing off the edge as an edge. He was in
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  Speaker 2: the Sam linebacker spot and a faux Sam linebacker hybrid
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  Speaker 2: safety next to Ernest Jones. He was back deep in coverage,
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  Speaker 2: like a safety. He was more like last year. And
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  Speaker 2: you would think some of that was to get even
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  Speaker 2: worried back into the flow, but some of that is
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  Speaker 2: so Kyle Shanahan will have to prepare for that again.
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  Speaker 2: And to get me more ready to do that full
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  Speaker 2: go full meal deal on Sunday against Brock Purdy and
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  Speaker 2: the 49ers. And, If he, Eamon Worre, does what he
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  Speaker 2: did last year against San Francisco, and that is defend
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  Speaker 2: George Kittle on pass plays down the field, tackle Christian
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  Speaker 2: McCaffrey as soon as he caught passes in the flat
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  Speaker 2: and short routes, then the Seahawks will win again. He's
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  Speaker 2: that important to how they play defense against Kyle Shanahan.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the key to me. Eamon Worre now being
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  Speaker 2: back apparently full go to do everything he did last year,
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  Speaker 2: which was absolutely throttle George Kittle. And Christian McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 4: And I love the way that they eased him back in, too,
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  Speaker 4: just to make sure. I know that he wanted to
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  Speaker 4: go out, and he was probably champing at the bit
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  Speaker 4: about getting back out there, but they did ease him
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  Speaker 4: in the right way, at least by my perception.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you heard him say after the game when
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  Speaker 2: I asked him about that, we played that clip the
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  Speaker 2: other day, about how he loves this team for that
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  Speaker 2: and how he thinks most teams would have just thrown
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  Speaker 2: him back in 100% game one. He went nine snaps
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  Speaker 2: in his debut against Arizona. in Week 2, and then
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  Speaker 2: he went 52%, about 28 snaps in Washington, and then
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  Speaker 2: now 78%. He's going to be above 80%, 90%, you
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  Speaker 2: would think, for the rest of the year, health-willing, back
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  Speaker 2: from that arthroscopic ankle surgery in July. But, yes, he
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  Speaker 2: appreciates now. He didn't appreciate it in Arizona Week 2
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  Speaker 2: when I talked to him in the locker room in Glendale,
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  Speaker 2: and he says, I'm ready to go. What are we
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  Speaker 2: waiting on? But he appreciates now how they ramped him up,
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  Speaker 2: and let's face it, they still got 13 more games
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  Speaker 2: plus a playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: And hindsight is everything sometimes, but what I like is
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  Speaker 4: where his mindset is at, that he's willing to learn
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  Speaker 4: from that.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: That he's willing to accept that they did the right
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  Speaker 4: thing and he's not going to double down or anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know where that's going to come in handy also
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  Speaker 2: is in a couple years when his contract's up. Certainly will.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to say, well, wait a minute. I might
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  Speaker 2: stay with the team that take care of me and
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  Speaker 2: that I love for how they took care of me
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  Speaker 2: and the rapport I have with the head coach. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: He's in line for a couple years from now to
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  Speaker 2: re-up on his contract. He's so central to the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald's plans on defense. 11.30, we will read
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  Speaker 2: back your text. Your talkback's on the Tacoma Dodge text line, 49451.
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  Speaker 2: The talkback's on the iHeartRadio app and our website, 933KGR. com.
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  Speaker 2: It's the red microphone button at the top of the page.
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  Speaker 2: Leave a 30-second or shorter voicemail message and Jessamyn will
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  Speaker 2: and 3.35. Ian Furness coming up the road from his
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  Speaker 2: home in Maple Valley here to Renton, the Seahawks headquarters
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  Speaker 2: at 11.45. We'll find out what's on his show today,
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  Speaker 2: usually as a Seahawk guest because it's right before practice.
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  Speaker 2: The timing doesn't work out for our show. They're in
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  Speaker 2: walkthroughs as I walk in to set up for the show,
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  Speaker 2: and then they go into meetings right up until about noon,
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: vice versa. They go to meetings, and then they go
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  Speaker 2: to a walkthrough right up until noon, and then Ian
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  Speaker 2: will pick off a player, usually gets a player around
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: 1220 or so. Texting to 49451, text line, what concerns
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  Speaker 2: you most about the Seahawks right now? Yeah, they're 3-1.
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  Speaker 2: They lose a very winnable game over an inferior team
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  Speaker 2: in Washington, and then they punt away, blow most of
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  Speaker 2: a 27-6 lead against the Chargers. Sam Darnold with two interceptions,
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  Speaker 2: two really bad interceptions out of the three he's thrown
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  Speaker 2: the last two games. The running back situation we've talked
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  Speaker 2: about a lot. The defense not yet being whole. What
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  Speaker 2: worries you most? What concerns you most going into this
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  Speaker 2: game against the 49ers? 4-9, 4-5-1, what concerns you about
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks? Justin, what concerns you about the Seahawks, if anything?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, an ugly win is still a win.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not very concerned about them cleaning up what
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  Speaker 4: we saw because, you know, the seven personal fouls, obviously
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  Speaker 4: a huge amount of penalties, but the seven personal fouls
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  Speaker 4: were what concerned me. But after hearing from Ernest Jones,
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  Speaker 4: who is clearly a leader in that locker room, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not that worried about it.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm worried about is the pocket that Sam Darnold has.
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  Speaker 4: And not pushing him into a situation to make those mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily blaming the offensive line 100% on that.
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  Speaker 4: I am definitely putting some blame on Sam Darnold. I
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  Speaker 4: want him to be 100%. And when he came back,
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  Speaker 4: which I really thought Drew Locke would actually start that
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  Speaker 4: second game.
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  Speaker 3: I really did. But when he came back 100%, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to know he was 100%. And I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that he is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he of course says he is, but it's– yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I hear you. What would help him is if he
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  Speaker 2: had a consistent running game. And 81 yards for Wilson
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  Speaker 2: against the Chargers, but the Washington game he was– Darnold
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  Speaker 2: was running for his life most of that game, running
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  Speaker 2: away from pressure because they had no running game. 18
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  Speaker 2: carries for 44 yards against Washington. So a more consistent
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  Speaker 2: running game against San Francisco– So they don't have to throw.
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  Speaker 2: The 45 throws against 18 runs in Washington, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to lose most games when they're doing that, leading to
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  Speaker 2: the three turnovers. So can they be effective running the
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  Speaker 2: ball with Emmanuel Wilson now the number one, at least
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  Speaker 2: until Jadarian Price comes off injured reserve in maybe a
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  Speaker 2: month or so? He's not eligible until, again, until November
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  Speaker 2: 2nd against Chicago at the earliest. And now today, officially,
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  Speaker 2: onto the 53-man roster, Robert Henry Jr., undrafted rookie running back,
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  Speaker 2: from Texas, San Antonio. He started his college career in
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  Speaker 2: junior college. Some people thought he would get drafted because
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  Speaker 2: he averaged 7 yards a carry, 6.9 yards a carry
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  Speaker 2: his final college year, and he showed ability to catch
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  Speaker 2: passes out of the backfield at UTSA. But he did
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  Speaker 2: have some fumbling issues in college. And the other thing is, Jessamyn,
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  Speaker 2: he's 5'9 and 196 pounds.
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  Speaker 3: Right, he's not huge.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and that doesn't project to a lot of NFL
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  Speaker 2: rosters and plans. He would appear to be a much
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  Speaker 2: different back than Emmanuel Wilson, who was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' short yardage back, a more powerful run-you-over guy,
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  Speaker 2: and less of the one-cut-go-speed-make-you-miss guy that Jadarian Price is.
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  Speaker 2: The Seahawks were so looking for that dimension without Price
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday against the Chargers, of course, that they put
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  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed back there at tailback. And he ran a
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  Speaker 2: 28-yard touchdown by just outrunning everybody to the left edge
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  Speaker 2: on the first carry.
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  Speaker 3: Would you run that back? Would you do that again?
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  Speaker 2: I think so. Don't you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're going to on Sunday. And it
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  Speaker 2: also gave the 49ers defensive coaches something they'll now have
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  Speaker 2: to game plan for. But where does Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: fit into this? It's not like he needs to ramp
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  Speaker 2: up into football shape because he's been practicing daily with
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  Speaker 2: the commanders on the practice squad. So he's been– he
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  Speaker 2: was a standout for them in the preseason and then
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  Speaker 2: went right into the regular season on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: So he has been playing. It's not like a Joe
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  Speaker 2: Mixon situation that even if he had signed and passed
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  Speaker 2: his physical– he would have had to ramp up without
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  Speaker 2: having been on a field since the end of the
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  Speaker 2: 2024 season. Not so with Henry. He's going right on
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  Speaker 2: to the 53, and Chuck asked me this morning at
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  Speaker 2: 7 o'clock when I was on the morning show, as
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  Speaker 2: I am every day, and he asked me about, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think Henry will play? I said, yeah, he will,
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  Speaker 2: because he's been practicing every day, and he goes right
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  Speaker 2: on to the 53-man roster. That's the rules for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: If you sign somebody off another practice squad, he has
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  Speaker 2: to go on to the 53-man roster of the acquiring team.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little poaching deal that Teams all around the
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  Speaker 2: league have pro personnel scouts that scour the practice squads
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  Speaker 2: of other teams, and those guys are constantly eligible to
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  Speaker 2: be snapped up by another team. So that's where the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks stand. I would think if I was a Seahawks fan,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. If I was a Seahawks fan, I would
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  Speaker 2: be worried about the running back situation. You're not allowed
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  Speaker 2: to be. Not a part of my job. But I
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  Speaker 2: would be worried about the running back situation. Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 2: has never been a number one bell cow running back.
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  Speaker 2: He was a 500-yard back for Green Bay last year.
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  Speaker 2: And he's your guy now. How much can Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: share that load? George Helani, it seems to me, will
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  Speaker 2: stay in a third down limited role, a specialty role
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  Speaker 2: in the pass game. He's got to get better in
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  Speaker 2: pass protection. We've talked about a couple times now this season,
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  Speaker 2: more than a couple times, he's missed blocking assignments that
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  Speaker 2: has gotten Sam Donald and the offense in trouble. He
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  Speaker 2: missed an A-gap. Pass rush pressure on Sunday that cost
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks a possible touchdown that Jackson Smith and Jigba
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: was wide open down the middle of the field, and
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Darnold didn't have time to throw it to him because
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Helani didn't pick up the pressure. So they have issues
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: at running back, obviously, post Kenneth Walker, and the plan
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: was for Jadarian Price to solve most of those, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: he's not. He's on the injured reserve list. Still unknown
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: how long he's going to be on it. John Schneider,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: the GM, said before the game on Sunday, it's not
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: a season-ending injury. but is an upper rib issue. Upper rib,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it's cracked, fractured, would he be back
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: in four weeks? Maybe not. So we'll see what the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Seahawks do. They tried Joe Mixon. He apparently failed his physical.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: We're going to ask Mike McDonald at 12 o'clock why
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Mixon didn't sign after it looked like he was going to.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's where my concern would start right there
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: with the running game. A team that's based on Running
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the ball, Jessamyn, has running backs that few people have
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: ever heard of.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Maybe that is a key weapon, Greg.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, we have no tape on this guy.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: So who knows how to defend him?
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I do love the alternate weapon of putting Rashid in
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: that position.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: And I would 100% do it again.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: And I know that they're going to draw up a
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: defense that is prepared for that if they see him
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: on the field. However, I just, I mean, I'm Susie Sunshine, okay?
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I am always going to look at the sunny side
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: of the road. And I like the fact that these
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: are people that nobody knows about. And I know that
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: there are some undersized guys that might be out there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I know that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Physically, maybe not the clearest choice to be in that
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: position with what we've seen in attrition through signings and
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker and attrition through injury and Jadarian Price. However,
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I do think that they still need to commit to
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: that run, and I hope.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: They still do. They will. Good, good. And I want
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to see that. I just want to see that from
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: this offense.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: The trade deadline is November the 10th, 4 p.m. on
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and that is right before, what is that,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: right after the Seahawks. They'll have played the Bears- and
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they'll come off another game on Sunday, and then the
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: trade deadline is November 10th. John Schneider, the GM, has always,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and including this year, saved cap space for a midseason
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: move at the trade deadline. Rashid Shahid, Leonard Williams. Who's next?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Is it a running back? Is it a Tony Pollard?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Is it a running back who may be available? If
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you trade for running– now, the Seahawks have 11 draft
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: picks next year. They have draft capital, late-round picks, multiple drafts,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: to move if they wanted to acquire a running back
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: at the trade deadline. But if you're going to trade
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: draft picks, you're going to get a running back who's
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: currently playing for somebody, right? Either a starter or a
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: major contributor, or else you won't give a draft pick
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: for him. So that's another avenue that I'm sure John
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Schneider is looking at now that the Joe Mixon deal
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: fell through. But the cupboard ain't exactly full with Jadarian
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Price on injured reserve. They're planning to backfill Kenneth Walker.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: isn't even on the field or able to practice right now.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Up next, the bigger, more pressing issue than even the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: running back situation from the Chargers game were the penalties
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that Jessamyn talked about. What are the Seahawks doing about
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the team record? 150 yards and flags they had their
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: last game. Ernest Jones talks about that and more coming
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: up next. 11 o'clock, Matt Barrows from the Bay Area,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: 49ers beat writer to talk about the Seahawks opponent that's
• 19:10
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• 19:19
  Speaker 2: from Seahawk Headquarters, the Virginia Mason Athletic Center, and Renton
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Live on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back. We're at Seahawk Headquarters.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I am at Seahawk Headquarters here in Renton. Jessamyn's back
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: at the studios.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no we in this, Greg.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yes, that was presumptuous of me and wrong.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I'm out here at Seahawks.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: We are still a we.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: We are still a we. I will be here because
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has a noon press conference. Maybe he'll describe
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: why Joe Mixon's not a Seahawk when it presumed he
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: was going to be. Apparently failed his physical. That's the presumption.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And then the Seahawks are going to practice today. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned at the top of the show, I'm
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: trying to see if Leonard Williams is on the field,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: if Ty Okada remains on. Back to the practice field
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: like it was the end of last week. He's yet
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to play the starting safety. The presumed starting safety is
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: yet to play this season with the hamstring issue. Leonard
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Williams had that ankle issue at the end of the
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Chargers game. Mike McDonald said he's, quote, optimistic. He said
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: that on Monday that Williams will be able to play.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's joined straight back to the practice
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: field today, though. So that's a couple of things I'll
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: be looking at today. And I'll also be looking at
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Robert Henry Jr., the new running back and undrafted rookie.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: who starred in the Washington Commanders preseason. The Seahawks just
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: swiped him off the Commanders practice squad. That became official
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this morning that he is now on the Seahawks 53-man roster,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: taking the place of Jadarian Price in the backfield, maybe
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: not as running back one just yet. I would think
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson is still the guy, but we'll learn more
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: about Robert Henry Jr., maybe talk to him as well
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: today before the Seahawks practice this afternoon. They have been
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: talking a lot this week about penalties here at the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Seahawks headquarters because they had 150 yards of them, the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: most ever in the 51-year history of Seahawks football in
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the game against the Chargers. It turned a 27-6 route
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: into a 30-23 nail-biter at the end, where it should
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: not have been for sure. The Seahawks had seven personal
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: foul penalties against the Chargers, four drive-extending penalties after they
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: had thought they'd been off the field on third down.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: We talked about some of the most egregious penalties Nick
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: even worried getting ticked that a guard pushed him 15
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: yards down the field on a block, so he head-butted
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: him right in front of the back judge. 15 yards penalty.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: The third and 24, Derek Hall hitting Justin Herbert after
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: he threw. Yeah, you can say that was just a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: football play and Hall was committing to trying to sack him,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but don't even touch the quarterback on third and 24
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and think your number one defense is probably going to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: hold them back from that. It was a two-yard pass.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Became an automatic first down. Devin Witherspoon. On a tackle,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: getting the running back out of bounds for a two-yard loss,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: just rodeoed through him through the white, thick border of
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the sideline. An easy call for the sideline official for
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: another 15-yard first down. Mike McDonald, after the game, called
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: those selfish penalties, said there's a spectrum of penalties we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: have here. We have cost of doing business penalties, aggressive
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: penalties that they don't think maybe, but think Connor O'Toole
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: on the punt return, like we talked about the other
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: day when he went head up. face mask to face
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: mask with the Chargers returner, and the officials called that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: unnecessary roughness. McDonald's cool with that. He's not cool with
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the selfish penalties. So I asked McDonald, and I also
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: asked Ernest Jones, the leader, the signal caller of the defense,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: what do you do to fix penalties? Do you actually
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: yell at them? This is what Ernest Jones said after
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Ernest, what's the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: Accountability on the issue that you and your coach are
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: talking about?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Pissed.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think we're all collectively kind of pissed.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: you can't allow you can't extend drives for offenses and
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: we did that a hell of a lot today so
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: we'll address it as a defense tomorrow.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: We'll get it fixed going into next week sorry how
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: do you address it what's the just yelling.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: Guy what do you how do you yeah That's how
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: we do it. No, we're going to talk. We talk
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: as men. Like, hey, like, we just can't have that. Like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: it's as simple as that. Some penalties are in the
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: heat of the moment. Not saying the guy's purposely trying
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: to hurt the team at all. But, you know, it's football.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: Things happen. We just got to, you know, watch the
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: film on those penalties and see where we can be better.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Did any of those.
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: Feel like that's just the way they're calling it?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, they had 14 minutes.
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: The Chargers had 14 penalties as well. Was some of
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: that just the way the refs were calling it?
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, it felt like they were calling it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: Anything they'd seen it, they would just own it. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: a couple of those penalties, you know, you slow everything down.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Every play has a penalty in it. But in the
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: moments you're on the field, it doesn't always feel like
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: a guy's out of bounds. Or, you know, with the
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: rough in the pass, I think you get two steps.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: It doesn't always feel like, you know, the guys, you
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: took your two steps or you didn't take your two steps.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: So it's part of the game. We'll fix it, though.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Do you like those moments where the ball comes right
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to you? I loved it. I love it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: I've been waiting on those. I've been waiting on one
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: of those. And I'm thankful. Good Lord blessed me with
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: one today. So, you know, happy for sure.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about the linebacker play with you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and Drake both making picks?
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I told him.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I was like, we both went picks today and won. So,
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's a pretty solid day. You know, some
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: things that we'll clean up. But, you know, I'm happy
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: for him. Happy he was able to get his hand
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: on the ball, come down with it. You know, same
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: for me. And, you know, we've been stacking, you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: four good games. So, we just got to keep getting better,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: keep leading that defense.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: I know it's hard to overlook all those penalties in
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: the second half. But taking those aside, I can feel
• 24:37
  Speaker 10: the way that the guys up front, the blitz, the
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: packages getting after.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Justin, would set the guys up in coverage for those
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: pick-offs too. I think we did.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: I think we got after them up front, you know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: when there wasn't a penalty or anything like that. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: feel like we had control. But of course, you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: you give teams life. You continue to give them, you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: chance after chance. They're a good team. They're going to
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: make the plays. So I think we just got to
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: be better in that regards. A fair exception.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: What goes into you being in the perfect spot there
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: for that play?
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's just a great call by
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Mike that had me over there in that direction. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: I think from there, it's kind of just getting an
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: early read on routes, getting to your spot and then
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: seeing where you can make a play at, depending on
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: what they're doing.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: As much as that wasn't going the way you guys
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: wanted in the second half, to get to finish it
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: with a big play on defense and trying to get that,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: what do you think about that last moment for the defense?
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I'm a firm believer in this league.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Certain moments and how you win games, they set you
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: up for later on down the line. So there's going
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: to come another moment. There's going to be moments in
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: game where defense is going to be on the field.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: So you need those stops. And moments like that just
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: builds confidence that you can do it, that you can
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: and you will go get those stops.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: That's Ernest Jones, the signal caller and defensive leader for
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, talking after the Chargers game when he had
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: an interception when Justin Herbert threw it right to him.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: You heard him talk about him and Drake Thomas having interceptions.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: He was blessed with that one.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I'll say it was thrown right to him as if
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: it came down from the heavens themselves. But superseding all
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: of that were the penalties, 150 yards. They're talking about
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it a lot. They're talking about it. What I think, Jessamyn,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: makes this an encouraging problem for the Seahawks, it's so preventable.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Just don't hit the quarterback on third and 24. Just
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: don't headbutt the opponent. Don't throw the guy into the bench.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, they can fix that relatively easily and quickly,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I would think. I don't see this as a systemic
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: issue for this team.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I don't either.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I think that is probably one of the biggest fixable
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: problems that they had in that game. Like you said,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: they erased a routing with those penalties. So if they
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: clean that up and that is an in-house thing, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: don't think coach McDonald has to do anything. I don't
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: think adding dirty or Brian, Brian Fleury, like no, no
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: coaches will have to do much about that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I think that that is an in-house thing.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: And you have a leader like Ernest Jones coming in
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: and cleaning it up and that'll be just fine.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Right. And when he, you heard him say, yeah, we
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: do yell it. It's like, yo man, cut this blank out.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned on check this morning, When I first
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: started covering the NFL with the Raiders, I know I'm old, 2002,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they would fine players for stupid plays like that. Now
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the collective bargaining agreement and the players union and everybody,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: they've kind of reduced the amount of ways that players
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: can get fined anymore. But those are finable offenses, the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: penalties they had against the Chargers. lose games. And we
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: talked just when you and I talked about on Monday,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: most NFL teams would have beaten the Seahawks on Sunday
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: with 150.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Penalties with the penalties.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Seven, seven personal thousand, four extended drives in the second half.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: They would have, but the chargers are malfunctioning right now,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: especially on offense. There's no way this charger should have
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: had 23 points against Seattle on Sunday. And people just
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: see the final score and say, well, the Seahawks defense
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: isn't what it was. Well, take away those penalties and
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: they don't have four more drives that they had in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: two two scores in the second half, and all of
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: a sudden it looks more like a 27-6 game like
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it was deep into the second half. I still think, Jessamyn,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: this defense, if they just prevent these stupid, selfish penalties,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: there aren't many teams, including Kyle Shanahan's 49ers, who can
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: drive the ball the length of the field multiple times
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: in a game for multiple touchdowns. And if you don't
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: score multiple touchdowns in an NFL game, you're usually not
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: going to win. And that's as simple as that can make,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks' current state. Running game problems, Sam Darnold throwing
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: interceptions and has only had two games. These are his
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: two preseason games in some sense, because he didn't play
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: at all in the preseason. All of that notwithstanding, if
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: they don't turn the ball over and they don't give
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: other teams drives like they did against the Chargers, who's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: going to beat them? Maybe the Rams, maybe Sean McVay's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: offense last year was one of the only teams that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: consistently drove the field for multiple touchdowns. against McDonald's defense,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: which is returning intact now from last year. It has
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: not been that case until now. Nick Emanuori fully back.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Julian Love missed a game. Now he's back. They can
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: get Ty Okada back. They will have all 11 starters
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: from last season, counting Okada when he had to start
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: 11 games as an injury replacement. They'll have all 11
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: starters from the defense last year playing, including Josh Jobe,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: including Julian Love back, including Nick Emanuori and the full
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Nick Emanuori experience. So, To me, that's where the game lies.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Don't make mistakes. Mistakes football, they'll win. But you could
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: say that about a lot of teams. But you can't
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: say a lot of teams have the defense that Seattle does.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: That is also true. I mean, defense wins championships, Greg.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It won Seattle's last year for sure. But
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that's where I see this game. Just don't give the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: 49ers a short field, even though Purdy's humming. And I'm
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: going to talk to Matt Burrows at 11 o'clock, the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: 49ers athletic beat writer.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: And who said that you're his guy? He was very excited.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Matt and I go way back. We were both on
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the Sacramento Bees staff. I was the Raiders beat writer
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: when they hired Matt to be the 49ers beat writer.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And he moved to Santa Clara to live with the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: 49ers facility. Way back in 2002 when I first started
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: coming to Raiders. So we've known each other. We were
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: on the same staff together at the Sacramento Bee back
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: when McClatchy actually cared about sports sections. And now the
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Bee doesn't have one. And neither really does the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: News Tribune. But Matt and I, yeah, we go way back.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask Matt at 11 o'clock, why is
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy a 70% passer and 11 touchdowns and one
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: interception without a really strong receiving core? Yeah, he still
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: has Kittle. He's got Debo Samuel back. But I was
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: surprised to look at the 49ers stats. Samuel only has 12,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: 13 catches through four games. You would think he might
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: be the only downfield receiving threat. Mike Evans seems to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: be a shell of himself physically. And Mike Evans was
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: their big offseason acquisition to try to bolster that receiving core.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: But now they've got Deebo Samuel back. I expect a
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: lot of the fly sweep, horizontal runs that the Seahawks
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: always see from Samuel when he's with the 49ers. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: would expect to see more of that as well and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: a steady dose of Christian McCaffrey, which has been Nicky
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Manwari's guy in the two games that they won last
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: year during the 49ers, the three points they held them
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: to in Week 18 down in Santa Clara, and it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the absolute boat race in the divisional playoff game up
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: here in Seattle. One thing I did want to make
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a note of before we go to breaking news this
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: morning down in Eugene, Oregon. Did you see this? Longtime
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: basketball head coach, men's basketball head coach Dana Altman announced
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: this morning that he's retiring right now. They're a week
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: before the Ducks are starting their season.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is interesting. Yeah, there should be some digging done.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I'll just say that.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I do want to respect people because
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: You never know if there were health issues or anything
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And you hope that there aren't. Something's going on there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: There's some controversy.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Because you've got the entire offseason to prepare for a
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: coaching change, right? And to do it a week before
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the season. They're playing Seattle U next week. And then
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: they're gone. The season's on. And Dana Altman, after 16
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: years of coaching the Ducks and Eugene... has retired as
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the head basketball coach at Oregon effective immediately. He's coached
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: 37 seasons. He was at Creighton before he went to Oregon.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So the Danny Sprinkles that you dub have one fewer
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: rival head coach to deal with. They still have the
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: talent at Oregon to deal with, but the head coach
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Dana Altman is out. And yeah, I saw in the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: text line 206 noting it's National Coaches Day and Dana
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Altman just quit after 16 years.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I don't like to make generalized thoughts about anything,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: but something is going on is the correct way to
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: look at that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Timing's weird. Seven days before the opener.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: No, that's what I mean. Regardless of knowing what's going on,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: something is.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's strange. That's a strange timing. Final four. Long-tenured
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: coach down the line. Dana Altman is retiring. Effective immediately.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: That news happening this morning. Up next, let's talk about
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the Kraken. Yeah, they didn't play the Flames last night,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: so they didn't win. They played Vegas, one of the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: better teams in the league. Stanley Cup contending, Stanley Cup
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: winning champions team came in here last night and took
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: care of the Kraken 6-2, but they didn't. The Kraken
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: just didn't roll over. Brendan Montour was in the center
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of everything.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Monty, get it, Monty.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Loved it. Pivotal play of the game early in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: second period. We'll talk about that. And then you'll hear
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Ian Ferdes' TV call of Brendan Montour's Fighting Mark Stone,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the captain of the Golden Knights. It made me laugh.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: That's next. 11 o'clock, Matt Barrows, 49ers talk on why
• 34:04
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• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre with you on 93.3 KJRFM. If
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: you might have heard it this morning on the morning show,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: but Hugh Millen is having an in-person Chalk Talk tomorrow
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: at 5 p.m. It's hosted by Hugh Millen and Chuck Powell.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Anderson Hurst is going to be there, too.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: If you want football drilled into your brain, that is
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: how to get it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: He does it on the radio. He's going to do
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: it in person with film. The whole Hugh Millen experience
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: tomorrow at Canoes Cabaret at the Tulalip Resort Casino. You
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: get to see the game live like an NFL quarterback.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: You'll watch film. You'll hear Hugh Millen's perspective. Discover the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: hidden details that separate winning football from losing football, it says.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's your chance to sit on a one-of-a-kind film session
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: with Hugh Millen tomorrow. Doors open at 4.30 p.m. It's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: a free event, but we'd like to get a head
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: count of how many seats you would want. If you
• 35:26
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• 35:28
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• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Casino 430 door, 530 show tomorrow. Hugh Millen's Chalk Talk.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Text that to 49451, your name, your email, and how
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: many seats you want to reserve for Hugh Millen's Chalk
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Talk tomorrow. We're going to have a Seahawks roundtable with
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Chuck Powell, Anderson Hurst, Chris Kidd, Greg Bell, yours truly,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and I guess, to be determined because Hugh's going to
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: be commuting on his way up to Tulalip. You know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: it takes four hours to get up there sometimes. So
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: he won't be on the roundtable. It'll be myself at
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: 8 o'clock tomorrow, our weekly Seahawks roundtable tomorrow. Someone on
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the text line asked when that was. Last night at
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena, the Seahawks, the Kraken played their second
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: home game of the NHL regular season. They lost 6-2
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to the Vegas Golden Knights. And the game, I turned
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: it on right at the game's tipping point. 2-0, early
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: second period, Vegas is leading. The Kraken get a power play.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: They had a power play early in the game for
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a hit into the boards. And then they had another
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: one early in the second period with a chance to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: get within 2-1. Brandon Montour is at the top right point,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: out by the blue line. And he's lining up. He's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: trying to hit a missile from the point. He winds
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: up and takes a slap shot. And his stick shattered
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: in two. I don't know if you saw this, Jessamyn,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: when it happened.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I saw the replay, yes. I didn't see it live,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I'll be honest.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: The stick just broke in half. And the puck goes
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: right to Vegas for a two-on-one break the other way, shorthanded. And,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: of course, the one back was Brandon Montour without a stick.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: He tried to dive and stopped the crossing pass on
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the two-on-one. He couldn't do it. Pass went right under
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: him for an easy goal. And instead of a 2-1
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: game on the Kraken power play, it's 3-0 Vegas. They
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: end up going up at 1.5-0, send 6-1, and it
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: ends 6-2. But before it ended, Brendan Montour got his.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: He went after Mark Stone, the captain of the Vegas
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Golden Knights. This was the TV call from our guy
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness. And just listen to the tone of them
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: describing an NHL hockey fight. JT and Ian last night
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: on the Kraken TV network.
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: Conversation over in the corner between Stone and Montour. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: he says, they're going to go. I think, granted, they
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: dropped the clock.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: Montour and Stone. Montour's chirping at him. Yeah, there they're
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: going to go.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: So the captain for the Vegas Golden Knights and Brandon
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Montour dropped the mitts here.
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: You wanted the response. You got the response.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And here it comes.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Monty took one, gave a couple more. Stone trying to
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: come back with a couple of rights. They're still going
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: at it. Stone throwing some right hands. Montour trying to
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: set him up. Monty with a wild right hand and
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: then wrestled with the ice by.
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: Mark Stone and that'll.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Come to an end.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Still smile on Monty's face there. See if Stone's up both.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Fired up after that major for fighting.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Both benches loved it as well.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: You hear the stick taps from both teams. And Stone
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: playing it up to the crowd.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness, JT Brown.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: He knows hockey.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: How hilarious is how matter-of-fact they were about that whole thing?
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, I loved it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: It was a perfect description. They're talking. They're going to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: drop the gloves. It's going to happen right after. Oh,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: here they go. Oh, there's a right hand. Oh, now
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: there's another right hand. He's trying to get them. They're
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: tapping the sticks on the boards.
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: And you can hear the sticks tap.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: But that's a, that's people who know hockey.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: It's like another day that ends in Y in the NHL.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I've been, I've been an NHL fan since Mary of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the Muse rookie season with the Penguins back when I
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: was eight years old. And the only glue in Pittsburgh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the Civic Arena. I get it. Here we go.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: You hear the stick taps?
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, I covered the AHL as my first assignment
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: in college. And it was, and they were fresh on
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the ice on Thursdays, right?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: They played Thursday through Sunday. It was four straight games.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: So they were fresh on Thursdays and there were like
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: 10 fights a game.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: And so I learned that about hockey.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: That was my first induction into the sport as a reporter.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: And I was like, huh, I could get into this.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: And so I think that's why it's so acceptable in
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: that sport.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: It's so accepted. The linesmen just stand there and wait
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: for the two guys to put themselves on the ice.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: So do the refs.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: The refs, yes. That's what I'm saying. Oh, the refs.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: You said the linesmen.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the linesmen are the ones, the refs are smart
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: enough to stay, the ones with the orange stripes on
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: their sleeves are smart enough to.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Stay out of the fight.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, I see. The big guy linesmen are the ones
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: who wait for the breaking up the fight, but they
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: don't break it up until the dudes are on the
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: ice when they've lost their feet.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Well, they're kind of like, all right, that's enough.
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: Like, that's it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Well, they never, ever break it up when they're still
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: on their feet and they're still on their skates. It's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: only when they go to the ice. So they just
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: stand around and let them fight as long as they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: on their skates. And once they hit the ground, they
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: break it up because it's easier to break up then
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and they're not going to get punched because then they're
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: just in clenching mode. But it's hilarious how matter-of-fact it
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: all is. From the linesmen, the officiating, from the announcers
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to the players who just, hey, they both fought. Let's
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: tap our sticks on the boards. It's just... And it
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: was a draw. Nobody really– they didn't draw blood or anything.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It looked like a fight that was a draw. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: they both put each– it was just hilarious.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: No, it's just like getting it out of your system.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: And then they probably go drink beers with each other
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: later on.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It's just, yeah, we're going to go. And after the game,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Mark Stone told the Vegas Golden Knights beat writers that
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he didn't like the chirping that Montour was doing about
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: his team. He didn't specify what that was, but he
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: said that he was talking– saying things about the Golden
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Knights that he didn't like. It was hard to believe
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: that an NHL player, a professional hockey player, would be
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: worried about what someone's saying about his team that would
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: cause a fight. But anyway, I had to laugh at Ian. Yes,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: grew up doing play-by-play in the AHL and on bus
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: rides through Utah and Deer and all the places he's been.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Just matter of factly calling an NHL hockey fight.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And it was perfect. It was literally perfect.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is going to happen, and this is what
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: is happening, and you're watching it happen.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: And that's hockey.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: You imagine a fight like that in the NFL? People
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: would have been screaming. The announcers would be going nuts.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: And hockey, yeah, just another day that ends in Y.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: No, it's perfect. I mean, yeah, you have your malice
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: in the palaces. Right. Yeah, but that's because it's so unique.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: These guys have a lot of equipment on.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Just let them punch it out. It's fine. They already
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: lost a bunch of teeth anyway.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: It's fine.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Great job by our guy, Ian Furness. That was the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: first of 15 TV calls he's going to have when
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: John Forslund has national TV duty. Ian's going to be
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: doing the play-by-play for 14 more Kraken games on the
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Kraken TV network. Kong and King 5. Yeah, I had
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: to play that. Hats off to him. Good job for me.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Heck yeah.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Up next, let's go talk about the 49ers. Why are
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: they 4-0? Why does Brock Purdy have 11 touchdowns against
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: one interception and throw in 70% completions with a receiving
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: core that's decimated? Why is the defense of the 49ers
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: averaging only 16 points allowed per game, third best, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: even better than the Seahawks so far this season? We'll
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: talk to Matt Barrows from the Bay Area. He's the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: beat writer, the 49ers beat writer for the Athletic. Next.
• 43:29
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• 43:34
  Speaker 2: up from Seahawk Headquarters Live on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell. Destin McIntyre with you. I'm at Seahawks headquarters
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: for the Seahawks' first full practice day of the week
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: before they play the undefeated 49ers on Sunday at Lumen Field.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks announced this morning what we had known for
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: a couple days now. They signed off the Washington Commanders
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: practice squad onto the 53-man roster. Running back Robert Henry Jr.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: He's an undrafted rookie running back, a star of the Commanders'
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: preseason games from Texas San Antonio. He goes right on
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the 53-man roster, so I expect him to play, actually.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: on Sunday and make his Seahawks debut. We'll see if
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: he's on the practice field today. The Seahawks also signed
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to their practice squad Dante McMillan, a running back. Is
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that familiar to listeners? He might be if you're from
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: West Seattle. He is a West Seattle native, Dante McMillan is,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and he was a star at Chiefs South High School.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: He was a Metro League Offensive Player of the Year
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: when he ran for 2,000 yards and 44 touchdowns as
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a senior at Chiefs South. He played 50 career college
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: games for Weber State and Eastern Michigan. He was a
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: 1,000-yard rusher for Eastern Michigan last year. He was signed
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie free agent by the Baltimore Ravens,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: who had him do the entire training camp and then
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: released him at the end of August among the final
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: preseason cuts. And now here he is at the Seahawks.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: How about that? A hometown kid from Cheeselt High School
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: in West Seattle signing with the hometown Seahawks on the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: practice squad. I hope to talk to him today before practice.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Not only hoping to talk to, I know I will
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: talk to right now, to my buddy Matt Barrows. We've
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: been a longtime friend since we were both on the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Bees NFL beat together. I covered the Raiders when
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: he covered the 49ers in the early 2000s. Matt is
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. He is the esteemed beat
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: writer for the Athletic on the San Francisco 49ers. Hello, sir.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Greg Bell, I mean, I don't even want to contemplate
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: When we work together on the beat, because it will
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: show our age, I think. But it was a while ago.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I'll just reveal 2002, 3, 4, 5. Yeah, it's been
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: a minute.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Yes, those were my first years on the 49ers beat,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: and that was Dennis Erickson's first couple of seasons as
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: the 49ers head coach. So that's how far back. If
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: you look at time via who was the head coach
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: of these teams, mine would be Dennis Erickson.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: And mine was Pete Carroll from the first time I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: was covering the Seahawks in 2010. But yeah, Dennis Erickson,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: another full circle moment from Everett High School, of course,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: and Everett native, and was Matt Barris' first coach. Matt,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: University of Virginia. You always were the Wahoo. hat for
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: University of Virginia Cavaliers. Okay, now the 49ers come up
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: here 4-0. I look at their roster of wide receivers.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I see an aging, beat-up Mike Evans. I see Debo
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Samuel back on the team. I see George Kittle returning
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: from injury. And I see Brock Purdy with that lineup,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: 11 touchdowns, one interception, 70% completions, and the most eye-popping
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: number to me, Matt, 57.5% on third-down conversions. What's going on?
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: What is Brock Purdy doing with kind of a banged
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: up mixed mass receiving core, no?
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean, they had six receivers in
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: uniform on Sunday, and the only two receivers who caught
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: passes were Mike Evans and Deebo Samuel. So it's not
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: like they're getting a boost from young guys or unknown guys.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: It's It's that core, and that was one of the
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: themes of their win over the Broncos. This is an
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: old team, one of the oldest in the league, and
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: the 30-something guys stepped up. That was Debo Samuel, that
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: was George Kittle, that was Mike Evans playing with a
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: broken rib. So it really was sort of a gutsy effort,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: and the question people are asking here is can they
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: sustain that? Can a group of 30-year-olds who are already
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: hurt um you know uh keep doing this into november
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: december and and january but the the third down uh
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: i think you're right to to point that out um
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: you know one of the things the 49ers have going
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: for them is that they're not hurting themselves uh they've
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: had very few plays of zero or negative yardage they
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: lead the the league in that category and their their
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: second fewest um They're second in the league in penalties.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: So they're not facing a lot of and-long situations. They're
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: a lot of third and manageable. And so that, I think,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: accounts for Purdy's good, solid third down rate.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: As you know, Matt, from coming up here and covering
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Seahawks 49ers games, habitually the first go-around with Debo Samuel
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: in the 49ers, the 49ers really used him in the
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: horizontal run game and beat the Seahawks with fly sweeps.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Quick passes and an open field. How are they using
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the 30-year-old Debo Samuel in his second stint?
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: Same way. I mean, I would say there's even more
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: of that. Like I said, they had six receivers in
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: uniform for the Broncos game on Sunday. That meant that
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: they only had two tailbacks in uniform, and that was
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey and Kalen Black. So it meant that Deebo
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Samuel lined up as a tailback quite a bit. He
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: was essentially their third tailback there. And so he's been
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: getting a lot of carries, a lot of screens, a
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: lot of sweeps. They've been using him more on special
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: teams than they ever did. And so, you know, that's
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: sort of part of my theme is that I think
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: that they wanted to use Debo Samuel this year in
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: kind of spurts, in special circumstances. I think that they
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: feel like that's the best use of him. But Ricky
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Pearsall gets hurt. Dajon's scribbling their top draft pick, a
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: guy who played at Washington State for a little bit.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: He's hurt too. So they've had to lean on the
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: old guys. I mean, that's sort of the irony about
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: all this is that the 49ers have two themes here.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: They're a team that gets hurt a lot. They've got
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of injuries, and they've got a lot of 30-year-olds.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: But the injuries aren't happening to the 30-year-olds. They're happening
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: to the young bucks. So it's up to the 30-somethings
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: to carry them through.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: George Kittle, is he fully back healthy-wise and as healthy
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: as a guy can be after four NFL games?
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and coming off an Achilles tear in mid-January. So
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: that was always a big question is, you know, will
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: he be able to start the season? Will he start
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: on top? How good can he possibly be to begin
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: the season? But he had a big touchdown Sunday against
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: the Broncos and almost reached 20 miles an hour, which
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: for a tight end is a rare feat and something
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: that Kittle did quite a bit earlier in his career.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: And it just kind of shows how well he came
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: back from that That Achilles tear, that was a lot
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: of hard work. His teammates have emphasized that, that whenever
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: they saw him, he was working on his rehab. They
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: would go golfing. And, you know, when the other guys
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: were up at the tee box, he would be back
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: in the golf cart kind of doing kind of foot
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: and ankle injuries and moving that around. So it's something
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: that he was thinking about constantly. Um, and, uh, he
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: came back earlier than expected and came back better than expected. Uh,
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: he said they opened the season in Australia against the
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: Rams and he didn't feel right in that game, but
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: I think that was more about being in football shape. Um,
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: and that, that game sort of nudged him into the
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: proper shape. And he said weeks two, three, and four, he's,
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: he's felt like himself.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Since you brought it up, I was going to ask
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: you later about bringing it up now. Tell us about
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: the first NFL game, my regular season game in Australia,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the experience on and off the field. Was it something
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you'd like to go back to? And there's been rumors
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks may play there next year. Is that something,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: do you think that's an NFL place they should play?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: How did it all go logistically, the field, the stadium,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: the whole deal?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: It really was a great experience. And, you know, personally,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: I loved it. I mean, it's a terrific city Melbourne is.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: It's a great sports city. All of the sports facilities,
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: the stadiums are right off the downtown. So it's all walkable.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: It's all along the river. It's clean. It's a good city.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: It's a great city. And I did notice a lot
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: of Seahawks jerseys there. So I think that the Seahawks
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: would be welcome with open arms. They're one of the
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: teams that markets there, right? They're one of the four
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: teams that markets. Okay.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Well, that was sort of the, the irony of the
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: 49ers Rams because the Rams were the home team. The
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Rams are one of the teams that market in Australia,
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: but the Rams are, literally parachuted in. I mean, they
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: came in 24 hours before the game, didn't do much
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: of anything in the community. And then we're on a
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: plane as soon as the game ended. So I don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: think that the Rams won any new fans in Australia,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: but I do think that Australia, a sports crazy country,
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: a country that's really embraced the NFL, would go for
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks. I just think that there's some cultural similarities there.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: The cities kind of remind me of each other. Melbourne
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: doesn't have quite the topography that Seattle does, but that's
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: the city that it reminded me the most of, of
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: American cities.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: So you think the NFL is there to stay? It
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: would be an annual thing in Melbourne, at least, or Australia,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: at least.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it was a hit from a
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: lot of perspectives. You know, it got a lot of viewers.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Australians loved it. And the thing was is that it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: such a long trip. And it hurts you not only
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: going there if you're an NFL team, but coming back.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: Week two for both of these teams was a concern. Now,
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: I think that they both won there. week two games,
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: so that'll ameliorate that a little bit. But, you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: the head coaches, the teams themselves, don't love the 17-hour
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: time difference between the West Coast of the U.S. and Melbourne.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: So Kyle Shanahan, of course, the preseason injury, the traffic
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: incident and the injuries, concussion, is he fully prepared? It
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: looks like on the sidelines he's full participate, full go.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Is he every day, seven days a week, working now?
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that, I don't know, maybe two
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: and a half, three weeks into training camp, he was
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: back to himself. He absolutely was not himself early on.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: He was having some real issues with the severe concussion
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: that he sustained in the car accident. Also broke his wrist,
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: broke ribs. Big laceration across his forehead. So it was
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: not a small thing at all. And I know that
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: he was struggling. He certainly couldn't put in a full
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: NFL coach workday when training camp began. But, you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: that's in the rearview mirror now. Sorry about the pun there.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: That didn't mean to do that. But I don't think
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: that he's thinking about that. It's certainly not hindering him
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: at this point.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald throttled him. Even in the game up at
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: week one here in Seattle, the 49ers 17-13 win. They
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: get 300-some yards, but they only scored 17 points. And
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: then three points in the week 18 game with the
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: division title on the line. And then, of course, the
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: boat race up here in the divisional playoff game at
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Lumen Field. How much do you think and sense that
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: the notion that Mike McDonald has figured out Kyle Shanahan
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: and his offense, how much do you think that sticks
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: in Kyle Shanahan's craw? And what do you think he
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: might do differently this time that he didn't do in
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: the playoff game or Week 18?
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that. Mike McDonald's defense throttled just about
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: everybody last year. And then by the time they got
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: into that playoff game, the 49ers were running on fumes
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: at that point. I've covered a lot of injury-riddled teams
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: in San Francisco. Last year's was the most. So I
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: think that they're probably a little bit closer than that.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think that the 49ers... would have
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: won in Seattle, even if they had been at full
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: strength or close to full strength. But as far as
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: what they'll do, I think one of the things that
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: I'd say Shanahan is most proud of to begin this
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: season is that they're running the ball better. And everything
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: in the Kyle Shanahan offense comes off of running the
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: ball better. And it's something that they really struggled at
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: last year. As good of a season as Christian McCaffrey had,
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: he was almost a thousand-a-thousand guy during the regular season.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: A rare feat in the NFL. As good as he was,
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: there just were very few big gains on the ground,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: consistent gains on the ground, etc., So they're doing better
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: right now with that. I think they're averaging over five
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: yards a carry, and everything is sort of springing forth
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: from that.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: On the Tacoma Dodge text line, 49451, Matt, we have
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a question from the 253 area code up here in
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Washington State asking, what is up with Brendan Ayuk? What's
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the situation? Is he just going to disappear? Are they
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: going to trade him by the November 10th deadline? What's
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: the latest you think you know on that?
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, I think they'd love to trade him. I don't
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: think that they're going to have any takers at this point.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: This is someone who's really kind of destroyed his own career.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: You know, Brandon Ayuk is on something called the reserve-less
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: squad list. So he's not a fish. I guess he's
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: technically on the team, but he's not an active member
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: of the team. He's in this state of limbo. And
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: all he has to do to get off that squad
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: is to write a letter to the league requesting that
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: he be removed. And I've been told that it's perfunctory.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's basically rubber stamped by the NFL and
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: doing so would kind of force the 49ers hand. They
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: couldn't keep him in this limbo anymore if he were
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: to be reinstated, but he hasn't even done that. He
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: doesn't have an agent right now. Uh, he doesn't seem
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: to be, um, you know, all of his, uh, social
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: media stuff was that I really want to play for
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: the commanders this year. I'm going to play for the commanders.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: I'm going to play with Jaden Daniels, but he hasn't
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: done anything toward that end. So it makes you wonder,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: you know, does he really want to play football? Does
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: he want to play football this season? I think the
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: answer to that is no. Um, and then the next
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: question is, does he want to play football again? because
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: he's not doing anything to help that cause. In fact,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: he's doing a lot of things to hurt that. So
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: he's not going to be on the 49ers this year.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: I think the 49ers would love to trade him. They
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: would take anything for him at this point. And that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: trade deadline is basically a little bit more than a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: month away. So hard to see anything changing at this point.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: He's only 28 years old. Could they even get a
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: conditional seventh-round pick for him? What's the alternative? Do the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: 49ers just release him, or what are the alternatives they have?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they don't have to do anything now.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. He effectively isn't on the team. He
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't cost them any money. He doesn't cost them a
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: roster spot. Now, he could push the issue and force
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: them to cut him, make him a free agent so
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: that he can shine with Washington or whoever he wants to,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: but he hasn't done that. So he's sort of in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: this self-inflicted limbo stage right now. So he's not getting
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: any advice from anyone, doesn't have an agent. So I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: just don't know. No one's been able to get a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: hold of him. close friends, teammates, people like that. So
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: it's a big kind of shoulder shrug from the 49ers.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: They don't know what's going on with him. They don't
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: love the fact that he's chirping on social media. He's
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: actually stopped doing that over the last month and a half.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: But it doesn't really matter to them. He's not part
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: of the team anymore.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a really, really weird case of a former
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: star player. Matt, appreciate it. I'm going to see you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: in the press box in Seattle on Sunday, my old
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Bee buddy, back when McClatchy used to have sports sections, unfortunately.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: But good to talk to you again, man. I appreciate
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: you joining me. I'll see you this weekend. All right.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: See you soon, Greg.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Bye. Matt Barrows, the 49er, a long time, I mean
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: 20-plus years now since he and I were on the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Sacramento Bees NFL team together, 20-plus years, 24 years or so,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: as the beat writer for the 49ers, and now with
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: the Athletic, telling us the Brandeis situation, telling us about
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. They're running the ball better, he says, and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: that's the key. They didn't run the ball at all
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: against the Seahawks in the two games at the end
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: of last season.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure the Seahawks are well aware of that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, they are well aware of that. A lot of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey coming. You heard him say, Debo Samuel sounds
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: like something of the same situation the Seahawks are trying
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: with their wide receiver. Rashid Shaheed moving him into the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: backfield because of a dearth of running backs. They just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: have two, and now they are moving Debo Samuel back
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: in that familiar role. The Seahawks have not had much
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: success defending him against the run over the years. He's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: back at 30 years old in the second stint. 49ers, 4-0,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: coming in to play the 3-1 Seahawks for early division
• 1:03:00
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  Speaker 10: Hey greg hey jess love your guys's show you've really
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 10: stepped it up greg since you've added jess to the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: show top notch best show on kgr now my question
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 10: is though for you guys what is more inspirational to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 10: you guys today ian's fight call or dan wilson's after
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: game press conferences it's a tough one for me i
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: think it's a tie.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, understated in a different way. I mean, it was
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: monotony after about 160 of those tough one-to-nights. But Ian
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: was purposely understated because that's how hockey is.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: But he just knew what was going to happen.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: That was really funny. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: the kind words. I don't know if I felt like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I was stepping anything up. I'm just trying to be myself.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate the kind words about the show. Jessamyn
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: makes it better. Makes me better.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: You know what? I think every day I work with you,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I get better as well.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Ah, yes.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It's nice to have a pro helping
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: me out, helping a writer do radio.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: You've always had pros with you.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: But I do love working with Greg, and I worked
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: with Greg before I even worked here.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: That's right. You tell the story all the time. We
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: were at the Army-Navy game together. You weren't even a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: KJR employee yet.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: No, I was a lucky fill-in, and I was very excited.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Was that the one in Philadelphia or in Washington?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: That was Philly.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Philly.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: That was Philly because my parents drove up.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: They drove down.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: My directionality on the East Coast has been wonked since
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: I've lived in Seattle.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn and I will be back at the Army-Navy game
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: on December the 10th, broadcasting live from Times Square because
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: the Army-Navy game is in New York. It's in the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Meadowlands right outside New York in Manhattan.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: But we will be in Manhattan.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: But we will be in Manhattan in Times Square on
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: December the 11th. Pardon me, Friday, December the 11th. The
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: game is on December the 12th. I've said it before,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: if you've never been to an Army-Navy game, you're missing out.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: It is a bucket list. And I'm biased, of course.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I graduated from West Point.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: No, but okay, I'm not. No, she's not.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: And I think that previous people who worked here had
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: worked that show and not gone to the game. And
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: you told me how amazing it was, and I went early.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: And it's always very cold at these games. Went so early,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: saw the march on, saw everything. And I was just
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: struck because I grew up in college football. I had
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: been going to college football games since before I can walk.
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  Speaker 4: And I was so struck and taken back by everything
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: and the meaning of it. And also just having so
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: much gratitude for the service members who were there.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them playing their last game.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And then everyone who is treating it with such respect.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: And it's bucket list, yes. And this will be my
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  Speaker 4: fifth one.
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  Speaker 2: Fifth one, that's great. It'll be my, man, 15th.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a lot on me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I went there and went every year. If those
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: don't know, the entire Corps of Cadets and the entire
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Brigade of Midshipmen go to the game, whether you're on restrictions,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: whether you're on academic probate, whatever. You still get to go.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: If you're in trouble, you go. It's kind of a boomerang.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: You go on a bus down the morning of the game, parade,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: march around, go to the game, and then go right
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: back on the bus and don't get to celebrate and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: visit family and friends after the game. But it's an event.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: It's a holiday event for the Corps of Cadets and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: the Brigade of Navy Midshipmen in Annapolis. That's Army-Navy. We'll
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: be there. And I'm just blessed to do it. on
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: December the 11th from Times Square. 49451 on the Tacoma
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Dots text line. 206 says, maybe Ayuk and Mixon were
• 1:07:29
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• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: both the past year. Yeah, the mystery of Joe Mixon's
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: foot injury, how it happened, why he didn't play at
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: all for Houston last year, why he's still not in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the league and unsigned, why he apparently failed his physical.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: I have a.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Feeling that something happened that he doesn't want anyone to
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  Speaker 4: know about.
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  Speaker 2: That's the rumor. There are rumors in Houston.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: There are rumors, and I don't like to entertain them
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  Speaker 3: all the time. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: You can look it up if you want to know.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to perpetrate those, but yes, for sure.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: But with that being undisclosed by anyone, especially how highly
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: it's been talked about, it seems that. Something happened that
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: he doesn't want anyone to know about.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I agree. I think the same. 425 says, what concerns
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: me most about the Seahawks is Debo Samuel's return. He
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: has killed us in the past. Turnovers and penalties will
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: also set us back. Go Hawks. You're right about Debo Samuel.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: He has hurt them in a multitude of ways. And
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: you heard Matt Barrow's last segment saying, yep, they've got
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: him in the backfield. And they've got him running because
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: he's really their third running back right now. Marcus, our
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: buddy in 206, friend of the station, very worried about
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: the Niners. The last two weeks, we beat two teams
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: in the league, the Chargers, who we got lucky to play,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: and the Dolphins. Well, the Dolphins, they didn't play the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Dolphins yet, but I get the point. It's... What else? Oh,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: about Hugh Millen. 3-6-0. Millen needs to do one at the... EQC,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Lucky Eagle or Little Creek. Explain to the wife why
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: I'm driving from Olympia to Tulalip to be coached by
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Hugh at 50 years old is a tough sell. The
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: look on her face. I'm like, I get it. That's funny.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. Yeah, that would be a tough sell.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I'll let you throw that up to your wife.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: That is quite the drive, yes. Well, take her out
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: to dinner on the way.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bring her up there.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: And I think Hugh actually is, you know, just non-denominational
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: football expert where he just explains it. It doesn't matter
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: your gender or what you're a fan of. Hugh is
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: fantastic at talking about football.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: That's funny. I could see a wife going, you're doing what?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: You're going where? All right, take her up.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Come on.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: Just say, you know, I'm pretty sure that Tulalip has
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: some really good restaurants, too.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, take her up. And not to mention, you'd be
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: driving right through Seattle. There's a few places to eat
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, as well.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: You can also do that.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Bring her with.
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• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking in the NFL. Usually I'm a college football guy,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to go NFL.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Because there's something that's just sticking out to me. The
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Lions are playing at the 1-3 Cardinals. We've lost three straight.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: Coach Dan Campbell has to be kicking his Lions in
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: the asses this week. They're 2-2 after giving up 445
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: yards to Carolina, and they blew a second-half lead at
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: the Panthers Sunday night. The Lions are 2-2. I see
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: them as a better team than that. I saw the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Cardinals in person in Week 2, and I'm still trying
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: to figure out how they then went on to score
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: 30 points against the 49ers in a 36-30 loss. Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: That offense. They had Trey McBride, and that's about it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: They've lost three straight, as I said, since they beat
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: the Chargers to begin the season, and that win against
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: the Chargers doesn't look as impressive as it did in
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Week 1. The Lions are favored by 5.5 at Arizona.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I think the Lions win by two scores at least.
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• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: You and Ashley are going head-to-head on this one.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't even look. I did this blind.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm glad that you didn't take her pick.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: So she's taking the Cardinals.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: She took the Cardinals, but she got them at four
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: and a half.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: So the spread does change from day to day, so
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: people understand.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: So, yes, you are taking Detroit. Yeah, so you and Ashley.
• 1:12:06
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• 1:12:13
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• 1:12:32
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• 1:12:34
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• 1:12:37
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• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: But the more you play, the better your chances.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: That's right. Just as gambling should be, right?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's how they get you.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So back to the text line, 49451. 253, we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this in the past, but the 253 wants
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: to bring the Army-Navy game to Seattle. Either stadium, meaning
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Husky Stadium or downtown. We do have a strong military presence. Yes,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: we do. We have a huge military presence here, including
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: with the Air Force and JBLM and McCord, Bremerton, Kitsap,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: the Navy presence out on the peninsula. Fort Lewis, where
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I was stationed, now called Joint Base Lewis-McChord with the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Army presence there. Fort Lewis is much bigger than it
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: was when I was stationed there as a lieutenant and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: a captain. I've asked, Jess, when you've heard me ask
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: the Army-Navy people when we go back to the games
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: about bringing the game to Seattle, and they say we're
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: constantly looking at it. The contract currently, as I understand it,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: to be three out of every four years it's in Philadelphia.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: They've mixed that up the last few years. They've had
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: it in D.C. They've had it in Baltimore. They've had
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: it outside Boston and Foxborough. I would not recommend because
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: of the stadium. Boston was great.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, but the stadium, though, that experience was unbelievable.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no. In the stadium, yeah. Getting to the stadium.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: It's just hard to get to.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: You and I had a great time inside the stadium.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: That was the best. We were in a suite that
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: was on the field in the corner of the end zone.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick was in our suite.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.
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  Speaker 3: That was amazing.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: You're right about that. I won't argue with that.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: It is hard to get to, and so are the Meadowlands.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: I've been told the Meadowlands. Bad memories of the Meadowlands.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: But I have been told that the Army-Navy game, they've
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: considered it for Seattle, but there is a prohibitive cost
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: for the Department of Defense these days in some austere
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: days in some regards. I know we spend a ton
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: and billions of dollars and trillions of dollars on our
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Defense Department, but to send the entire Corps of Cadets,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the entire Brigade of Midshipmen to Seattle... During final exam period,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: that's usually like the week of final exams after the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Army-Navy game. That's the one drawback is you've got finals
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: staring at you on Saturday.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Because of all the college institutions in the world, they
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: actually care.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: About the students.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something about final exams at West Point.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: They last four hours. And we have them on Saturdays.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: We have them on Fridays. It's a grind. So... They
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: are reluctant to move the Corps and the brigade out
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: there forth to Seattle right on the heels. And this
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: is when the game is still in December. There's been
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: talk they're going to move the game around because of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: expanded college football playoffs, blah, blah, blah. When I was
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: a kid, I think it was 1982, it was in
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: the early 80s, the Army-Navy game was at the Rose Bowl,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: if you can imagine that. The only time it's really
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: been west of the Hudson River, if you count The Meadowlands,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: I guess, is west of the Hudson River by a
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: couple of miles. But west of suburban New Jersey was
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: in the early 80s. It went to the Rose Bowl.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: And you talk about the cadets and the midshipmen loving that.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Going to Southern California in December. That's the only time
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: it's been there. There were rumors when I was a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: cadet on the 50th anniversary of Pearl Harbor that there
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: would be, in 1991, that there would be a game
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu. But, of course, that didn't happen.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: We got the Meadowlands and a windstorm instead. Anyway, Ian
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Furness will join us next. Tell us what's on his show.
• 1:16:31
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• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: Tell us what he's got on his show on 93.3 KJRFM. Well,
• 1:16:57
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  Speaker 9: Greg's plugging in right now.
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  Speaker 3: Where are we?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 9: Well, listen, newspaper guy still learning this radio business.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 9: He's actually, I will say this. I'm going to give
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: this guy credit, man.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of people that, you know, because in
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: the world we live in now, if you're not doing multimedia,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: you're probably not doing well.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: I'll turn you up even.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: How's that? Yeah, man. Hook me up. There you go.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: If you're not doing more than one medium or job.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: And you're good.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: A lot of people come in and try to do radio,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: and they're like, I don't know. You just turn the
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 8: switch off. It's really not that hard. If I can
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: figure it out, anybody.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Can figure it out. That's about the only thing I
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: get right.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: But you know what? You and I weren't able to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 9: do it, buddy.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: I'll let you take over as your show.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: No, that's right.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 9: Now that you're plugged in.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: So I was about to crack a game. I was like,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: we played your call of the fight. Just made him,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Justin and I, crack up.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Just so good. Yeah, this is happening.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Tell people. Tell people why that is just so commonplace,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: why you knew Montour was going to fight, and why
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: you were so deadpan about it because of your Western
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Hockey League experience.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: Because it was nothing compared to what I saw on
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 9: the tub.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Right. But you said that you had a close-up when
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: you saw on the monitor of Montour gesturing to.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean, things were getting a little sketchy.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, the bottom line is he lost 6-2,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 8: but there was a lot of emotion in that game. And.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: You can see the physicality pick up as the game
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 8: went on. I mean, it started 17 seconds in. Bowman hit,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 8: or Gatcombe hit Lindgren, knocked him out of the game.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 9: He's hurt.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: We don't know, but he's probably out for a little while.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: So it's like, hey, Vegas, it's not just you that got.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 9: A guy hurt.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 8: Olsen's a really good player, and the hit was a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: bad hit, like a really bad hit. And then there
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: were a couple other ones. But that was, yeah, they're
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: looking for retribution, and it's what Lane's wanted all along
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 8: from his team is for someone to step up. And,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 8: you know, it's not so much retaliate or eye for
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 8: an eye, but it's like, hey, you've got to stick
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: up for your teammates. You know, Stone's over there, and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: it's a five-on-three, and they're talking, they're chirping, and away
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 8: they go.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 9: And actually, it was 5-on-4. I forget what it was
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 9: because they ended up having too many guys on the ice.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Vegas did.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: They'll probably get fined for that because somebody came on
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: the ice.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: No. Why would they get fined for that?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: Actually, it was a later hit. It was a later
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: hit because they had somebody coming off the bench during
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: an altercation.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, right, right. It was bad.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, I saw him. He's like, Monty's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: talking to him. Monty's a talker.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: And he's like kind of shaking his glove.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 9: And he's like, you want to do it? We'll do it.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go. And they did. And he knew it.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 9: Monty knew that someone had to do it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: And Stone knew that as a captain he had to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 9: do something.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: So that's the Krakens players trying to show their coach
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: they're tuned in to him.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it goes back to the preseason. I mean, Odovinen,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: he got in a scrap. Against Calgary, wasn't it? Yeah,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 8: kind of jumped a guy. But the guy had hit
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: him up high the game before, knocked him out of
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: the game. Did it again, and he went after him
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 8: and other stuff. Seattle has been too easy to play
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: against in their first five years. And that is something
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: Lane Lambert wanted to change last year. And he slowly
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: started to get it. And I would just say the
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: only good thing that came out of last night was
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: that whether it was that, you know, the Winterton hit
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: was a good hit and they didn't like it either.
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  Speaker 8: And he had to go, he had to answer the
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: bell and that's fine. Um, you know, the other scuffle
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: in front of the bench. I mean, there's a lot
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: of stuff that happened. This is a team that in
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 8: past years may have just kind of shied away from that. Uh,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: when other teams challenge them physically in your face. And again,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 8: it doesn't have to be dropping the mitts. Sometimes you're
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 8: just in the guy's face and, and, uh, It was
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 8: a poor performance, maybe one of the worst games that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: team's played in a long time. But Shane Wright getting
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: a goal and then them standing up for themselves was
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 8: a positive. And like you said, it changed on one play.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, a shattered stick on a power play, you
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: score there, but he's walking in. He scores there, it's 2-1,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: and you're like, okay, here we go. And instead, it's
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 8: a 2-1, none the other way.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, with no stick. So tell me the biggest challenge
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: or maybe the biggest plus of calling hockey on television
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: versus radio.
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  Speaker 8: Radio, whether it's football, hockey, baseball, I think to a
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: certain extent, certainly basketball, it's where is the play, what
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: side are you on, are we going right to left?
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: Like if I did the Seahawks-Cowboy preseason game, and in football, honestly, Jess,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: how many times have I told you to tell people this? Down, distance,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 8: where the ball is, who's 45-yard line, are you going
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: right to left? single receiver to the right, like painting
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 8: the picture. Um, it doesn't even matter if you say
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: who catches the ball, just, you know, that ball is
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 8: complete on the outside for a first down to the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: 35 of San Francisco. Like just saying that hockey down
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: the near side boards, down the left wing on the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: near side. So now you're going left or you can
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: paint the picture. So then the listener can put it
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 8: in TV and TV. It's less words, more of the analyst.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: Like I JT's phenomenal. I I've, I'll look at him.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: He's really easy to work with. I mean, we've worked
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: together like six times now total, but I can look
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: at him and I know exactly when he's going to talk.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 8: I can see when he's talking to the producer and
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 8: wants a highlight, so I'll just keep going. So yeah,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: it's just finding that rhythm.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you this. I felt like I felt like
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: it was a rough game for Ian last night.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: First one I did in a long time.
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  Speaker 9: It was not like riding a bike. It took a
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 9: little while.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: You sounded awesome.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: I appreciate that.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 9: And now we're going to do sports radio today. I've
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 9: got to talk to you guys. What the hell is
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: going on out here?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: I'll fill you in in the break. I'll fill you in.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Are they giving you a play today? Who are you
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: talking to?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 9: Derek Hall. Oh, you can ask him why he hit.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: The quarterback on third and 24 at a two-yard pass.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: We'll see if I get to that. Yeah.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 9: With him sitting across from me, I'll wait and see.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 9: I'll ask him about playing to the edge. How's that?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: There's a way to do that.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: You could ask about the penalties in general.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's what we'll do. That's what we'll do. So, yeah,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: all that coming up.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: That's probably, what, 1220? 12, 5, 10, 20, whatever.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 9: You never know with these guys.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I'm off to go hear Mike McDonald talk about his
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: recent acquisitions at running back and why Joe Mixon isn't here.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe we can get an official word on that.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 8: Jessamyn's going to rule on that, and then you'll come
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: in and tell me about what's going on around 1245,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: I hope.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Exactly. We'll do that. Okay, perfect. Ian's up next.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 9: You've got 45 minutes off.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks. You have a factor fiction pick from Ian at 235.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: All that's coming up. Thanks for listening. Greg Bell, Jessamyn McIntyre.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: We'll do it again tomorrow at 10 noon on 93.3 KJRFM.