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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-26 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Concentrating on being thankful versus being irritated with people that
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  Speaker 1: just camp in the left lane.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, I mean annoying.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's annoying, but it's fine for me at five
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  Speaker 1: am because I just go around and whether it's right left,
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  Speaker 1: they don't stop me. Yeah, I just it's just I
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  Speaker 1: typically am driving by them.
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  Speaker 3: Going what are you doing? Like? What are you? What planet?
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  Speaker 1: Where did you learn how to drive? Like there's rules
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  Speaker 1: to this whole thing, and you don't do them. And
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  Speaker 1: so I typically am more irritated today I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to when that would bubble up inside, I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to be thankful about something. So I need to probably
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  Speaker 1: maybe adopt this Thanksgiving attitude. I don't know some of
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  Speaker 1: the other days of the year would be beneficial.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with just around Thanksgiving and build from there.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see if it'll grow. Yeah, all right, good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I did text or teas that we were going to
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  Speaker 1: talk more about that whole jetfish, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: maybe covered that. We're gonna we'll get into it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more during the Huskies round table from out
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  Speaker 1: to nine. The jetfish and also how we think this
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  Speaker 1: game is going to go right, like what we think
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  Speaker 1: the most probable outcomes are going to be. But I
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  Speaker 1: think here I wanted to talk a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks and the pros and cons we got.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if we're in the stretch drive,
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  Speaker 1: but it kind of feels like it when you're in
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  Speaker 1: a tight race like the Seahawks are at this point
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  Speaker 1: in time, where I mean, you're one game behind the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: maybe call it a game in half, but you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to add that half game because of the tiebreaker
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  Speaker 1: at this point simply because you get to play them
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  Speaker 1: again and so you got to win that next one
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  Speaker 1: against them. But it's such a tight race, I think
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  Speaker 1: that the conversation of what we like, what we don't like,
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  Speaker 1: or what we hope that they improve upon is important
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, there's not too many divisions that have
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  Speaker 1: you know, the top three teams have nine, eight and
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  Speaker 1: eight wins, so you're in a bit of a dog fight,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm sure that they understand the importance of
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  Speaker 1: every single game.
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  Speaker 3: Every fan does. And yet what are.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts, I mean, to me kind of a jumping
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  Speaker 1: off point. Offensively, they're ranked third best in the entire NFL,
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  Speaker 1: behind Indian Detroit as far as points per game go. Defensively,
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  Speaker 1: they're ranked seventh. Just that on its face, right, I Mean,
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  Speaker 1: you obviously you can dive into way more stats and
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  Speaker 1: get way more information and and and get a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more precise. But I think that that's a good recipe.
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  Speaker 1: If you're the third best at scoring points and the
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  Speaker 1: seventh best at not allowing points, I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: a bringing good recipe. So what so far at this
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  Speaker 1: point and moving forward to the end of the year
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  Speaker 1: and through the playoffs, what is it that you're liking
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  Speaker 1: most about the Seahawks and and is there anything that
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  Speaker 1: you're really wanting them to make sure they button up?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think what I'm liking most is the
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  Speaker 4: defense for the most part, aside from those mistackles, which
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  Speaker 4: we're going to a tribute to the fact that there's
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  Speaker 4: been injuries and people filling in. So I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 4: hope that that as these injuries, you know, clear up
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  Speaker 4: that that that's not going to be an issue. I'm
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  Speaker 4: hoping that Ernest Jones comes back. We'll find out today
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  Speaker 4: if Julian Love is coming off the ir so that
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  Speaker 4: could make a big difference as well. So defensively overall,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not worried about anything. The only place where I
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  Speaker 4: would like to see it change defensively is in forcing
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  Speaker 4: more turnovers, because in terms of turnover differential, we're twenty ninth.
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  Speaker 4: Were minus seven, I believe, And now that I said that,
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  Speaker 4: I've pulled away from the page, yeah we are, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: minus seven. So that especially for a team that I
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  Speaker 4: feel like in the past, granted it wasn't always under
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  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald, but we're used to seeing a defense that
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  Speaker 4: can make big plays and that can get the ball out,
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  Speaker 4: and so I would love to see that happen again
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  Speaker 4: as these injuries clear up. Offensively, it's just the run
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  Speaker 4: game that is where my concern is. And obviously, yes
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  Speaker 4: we've had some times where Sam Darnold has had these
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  Speaker 4: questionable turnovers, which isn't helping our turnover differential in any way.
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  Speaker 4: But it's the run game because we are seventeenth in
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  Speaker 4: rush yards per game, which the middle of the pack.
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  Speaker 4: But for a team that keeps touting that we're going
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  Speaker 4: to run the ball, we shouldn't be seventeenth.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, when I was watching the Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: football game San Francisco against the Panthers, and San Francisco's
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  Speaker 1: dinged up, I mean more, even more than the Seahawks are,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's dinged up. So you have to That's just
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  Speaker 1: part of the deal. Part of the equation is your
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  Speaker 1: next man up. How good is your depth? Now, you
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  Speaker 1: lose a quarterback, that's a different ballgame. You lose a
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  Speaker 1: starting running back, that is more detrimental. If you were
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  Speaker 1: to lose a guy that's you know, doing crazy things
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  Speaker 1: anywhere offensively, defensively, it can hurt more than just your
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  Speaker 1: typical Hey, you're gonna have you got twenty you got
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  Speaker 1: to have twenty one or twenty two starters, and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have one or two that aren't going to be
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  Speaker 1: in every single week. If it's not the most important places,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to figure out a way to overcome that.
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  Speaker 1: If you can't overcome missing an Ernest Jones, for example,
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  Speaker 1: which is important, yep, but it's not like losing your
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Everybody would agree to that. If you can
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  Speaker 1: overcome that from week to week, then you're not good
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  Speaker 1: enough to be considered with the teams that are up there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think San Francisco when I'm watching them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Christian McCaffrey's different, but the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: just continue to get him the ball, right, he's a playmaker,
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  Speaker 1: he does extraordinary things, and he touched about thirty one
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  Speaker 1: times in that game. I'm sitting there thinking myself, like,
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  Speaker 1: what was the last time that ken Walker.
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  Speaker 3: Just got to twenty?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you get.
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  Speaker 1: To twenty versus twelve or thirteen, that's seven more you
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Christian McCaffrey. Again, he's different, I'm not. I
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  Speaker 1: guess maybe I shouldn't put ken Walker in that category
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  Speaker 1: of him. He hasn't done what Christian McCaffrey has, and
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  Speaker 1: yet he also hasn't been given the opportunity. If you
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  Speaker 1: gave him fifteen more touches a game, that's a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to keep him healthy for the whole season,
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  Speaker 1: and that makes sense. Maybe that's part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: that forty nine or are dinged up and that Christian
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey doesn't stay healthy typically is that they overheuse him.
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  Speaker 1: So I could be speaking out both sides of my mouth,
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  Speaker 1: but it just kind of feels like you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to get what you want out of him. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't just kind of feed him, you.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta let him wear down the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to some degree, And so I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think that is one concern. I think one of
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  Speaker 1: the pros is just, I mean, flat out the way
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  Speaker 1: that Sam Donald outside of the four interception game, the
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  Speaker 1: way that he's delivering the football, the way that he's
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  Speaker 1: managing the offense. I mean, I thought that there was
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  Speaker 1: going to be an upgrade when you went to Sam
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  Speaker 1: Donald over Gino. Yeah. I didn't think it would upgrade
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  Speaker 1: you to the third best offense in football. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: think that he was going to do that, even coming
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  Speaker 1: off of last year that I kind of threw the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of games away with the grain of salt.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Rams are good and they can put
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  Speaker 1: pressure on a bunch of people. The Detroit game, maybe
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  Speaker 1: there was some more unforced ares there, but I did
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  Speaker 1: not see him, and most certainly I did not see Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: jack and Smith and Jig but blowing the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the receivers in the NFL out of the water.
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  Speaker 2: So that's definitely the most positive thing, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: And yet the guy delivering that ball is Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think there's a lot of pros. I
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  Speaker 1: think the bottom line the recipe if you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you're in the top seven in both offense and
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  Speaker 1: defense and seven from each league, basically gett into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're you're looking pretty good right now, and
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  Speaker 1: yet you got some competition in the NFC West Night,
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  Speaker 1: so they're going to have to continue to figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side of the break, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: dive into the college football rankings that came out for
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  Speaker 1: not the last time. We got one more December second,
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  Speaker 1: and another one on the final one on December seventh.
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  Speaker 5: Is tech hanging firm going to Morgantown win that game
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  Speaker 5: off to the Big twelve Championship.
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  Speaker 3: And one would.
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  Speaker 5: Think if they win that game, if they've solidified a bid,
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  Speaker 5: regardless of what happens in the conference title game. Number four,
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  Speaker 5: we presume once again will be Georgia Bulldogs have to
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  Speaker 5: have things fall the way they're finished with their SEC
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  Speaker 5: schedule to get into the conference title game at number
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  Speaker 5: three Texas A and m There at Texas.
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  Speaker 3: If they win, they'll.
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  Speaker 5: Get in the SEC championship game. They lose, they will
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  Speaker 5: likely follow them ties breaker depending on the other games.
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  Speaker 5: Indiana is two and the Buckeyes are number one once again,
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  Speaker 5: So you take all of this and you put it
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  Speaker 5: in the bracket based on the current rankings. Now, it
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  Speaker 5: is so delicious to think about that six to eleven
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  Speaker 5: game of Mario Christobaul against Oregon. But Miami is going
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  Speaker 5: to have to get in at large bid, one would think,
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  Speaker 5: and all likely is that spot or the eleven or
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  Speaker 5: twelve would likely be taken by the ACC champion and
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  Speaker 5: the Hurricane still fighting for at large. You see the
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  Speaker 5: way the rest of it looks. Texas Tech at home
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  Speaker 5: against Dulaye Oklahoma Notre Dame. That would be fun, and
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  Speaker 5: then Alabama at Ole Miss in an SEC game if
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  Speaker 5: it were to fall that way.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it. It would be
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  Speaker 3: delicious to whoop up on Miami. I mean whoop up
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  Speaker 3: on Miami. It would be nice.
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  Speaker 1: at this point to go through a couple of headlines.
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  Speaker 1: College football playoff rankings came out again last night. There
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  Speaker 1: will be one more next week and then the final
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  Speaker 1: one December seventh, not on a whole heck of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shake up. Top five stayed the same, Oregon
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  Speaker 1: went up one while Ole Miss dropped down one. Not
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  Speaker 1: playing anybody, that is what it is. The real story
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  Speaker 1: is what's going to happen there on the bubble and
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  Speaker 1: those that barely get in and barely get out or
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  Speaker 1: get left out. Cracking host Dallas starts to night at
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  Speaker 1: Climate Pledgerina. Feast week is in full swing in college
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  Speaker 1: basketball with the Playoff Era Festival, which was a very
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing that Rick new Heisl was talking about yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The Maui Invitational and the Bajamar Championship Produced pretty much
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  Speaker 1: locked into that number one spot right now after winning
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  Speaker 1: their game. A lot of stuff going on in the
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  Speaker 1: sports world, but it is time for us at this
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  Speaker 1: point to go talk to our one and our only
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando.
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  Speaker 3: Get on the horn and call Hunts now with Mike.
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  Speaker 3: Here's Chuck and Bud.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I said hour as if we
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  Speaker 1: own Mike Sando. I don't think he is ours. I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's a little bit of possessiveness there. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: about that. Sando. Will you forgive me?
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  Speaker 7: No, I think I think there's ownership, you know there,
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  Speaker 7: I've been I've been part of the team along. Shoot,
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  Speaker 7: we go back to the nineties. So I think I'm owned, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm operating me. I'm not owned and operated by you. Okay,
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  Speaker 7: I'm owned by you, operated by me?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good, good, that's good. You would not want
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  Speaker 1: to be operated by me. I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 1: that right now. I have a hard time operating myself.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando is with us Caesar NFL Insider basically the
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  Speaker 1: guy that we get all the info.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We spew stuff for twenty hours a week, but then
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  Speaker 1: we we actually bring people like you on to give
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  Speaker 1: us facts and real educated opinions, and so welcome, Happy Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to have you before we get a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days off for the holiday. But guys, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with the Seahawks and then we'll round this thing
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  Speaker 1: out into a bigger picture. Seahawks at this point pretty
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  Speaker 1: tough division, you know, sitting there with the Rams at
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  Speaker 1: nine and two and the San Francisco forty nine Ers
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  Speaker 1: right behind him at eight and four. I mean, is
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  Speaker 1: this the most competitive division in the NFL right now?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it's probably at the top.
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 7: I think Seattle and the Rams are you know, top
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  Speaker 7: three or fourteens in the league. So yeah, it's hard.
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to beat that, it is. And look at
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  Speaker 7: you know, we don't talk much about the forty nine Ers.
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  Speaker 7: They're they're eight and four right as a team that's
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  Speaker 7: got a bunch of injuries, and no one really thinks
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  Speaker 7: they're probably going to be there in the end when
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  Speaker 7: that's your you know, when that's your third team in
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  Speaker 7: the division. As bad as Arizona's been, they've lost a
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  Speaker 7: bunch of games. They were winning, you know, right winning
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  Speaker 7: late in the game. So that's not a bad worst
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  Speaker 7: team either, you know. And just in terms of how
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  Speaker 7: they played. So yeah, I think it's really a tough division,
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  Speaker 7: but they're you know, they're they're they're taking care of
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  Speaker 7: all those games outside the division. You're still going to
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  Speaker 7: have a really good record and you're gonna eat battle
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  Speaker 7: tested when.
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  Speaker 3: You go in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: Sando, the Seahawks obviously facing the Vikings this week, and
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold's old team, do you think there's like a
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  Speaker 4: little extra juice on there because you know, and they
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  Speaker 4: didn't want him.
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  Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, yes, I think that there is. You know,
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  Speaker 7: I think that Sam understands the situation, and I don't
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  Speaker 7: know that he feels completely unwanted like they thought he was.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think they appreciated what he did. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there's got to be some of that. I think for anybody,
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  Speaker 7: you know, when you're playing somebody that you know would
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  Speaker 7: be better off with you, right, and they could have
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  Speaker 7: had you, they could have stepped up and done more.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm sure there's a little extra I think it's
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  Speaker 7: a fascinating game because we're just assuming, probably rightfully so,
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  Speaker 7: that the Vikings issues on offense are going to be
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  Speaker 7: so problematic that Seattle's going to win the game, maybe
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  Speaker 7: even in a route. But you know that that that
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  Speaker 7: Vikings defense, you know, does a lot of stuff and
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  Speaker 7: knows Darnald well, and I think they're gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 7: they can present some problems too.
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  Speaker 3: So look forward to the game, Sana.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking a couple of segments ago about the
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  Speaker 1: you know, Seattle and at this point that your recipe
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  Speaker 1: that you have, right, I mean, everybody, you figure Mike
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  Speaker 1: McDonald's going to be this you know, confusing defense and
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  Speaker 1: relentless defense. And this year their pass rushes is getting
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  Speaker 1: home more often than maybe it had last year in
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  Speaker 1: the couple of years before that. I mean they're ranked
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  Speaker 1: i think seventh in points per game defense, ranked third
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  Speaker 1: in points per game offensively. That's a pretty good recipe.
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  Speaker 1: What is it that you'd sprinkle in this little Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: feast as far as football goes to to make this
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  Speaker 1: make sure that this Seattle team continues to stay where
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  Speaker 1: they're at. I mean it was a week or so
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  Speaker 1: ago before that Rams game you kind of felt like,
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  Speaker 1: whoever comes out of that might end up being the
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  Speaker 1: team that has talked about as the best team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC. What do we need to sprinkle What do
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks need to sprinkle on this bad boy to
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  Speaker 1: get back where they're They're more in that conversation with
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, because right now I feel like they're half
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: step behind.
• 15:37
  Speaker 7: I agree to me, it's just flipping that turnover margin
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: both ways. I feel like, you know, for a team
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: that runs the ball a lot and way more than
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: they ran it last year, they have a lot of turnovers,
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: you know, and so they're very sales, a very rare
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: team to be. You know, they still minus seven. They
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: were minus seven point last week, so to be minus
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: seven with their point differential, super rare, Like you're in
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: a very small list of teams that have done that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 7: And the only thing better than that would be to be,
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: you know, to have even fewer turnovers. I think that
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: their point margin would go up, they'd have better chance
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: against the good teams. When you look at what happened
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: to them against the Rams, they lost because of the
• 16:16
  Speaker 7: four interceptions, and they even lost the first game to
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: the forty nine ers when they were a good team
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: with a fumble you know, at the end of the game.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: So to me, that's glaringly the number one thing, you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 7: besides the things like health or you know whatever they've
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: played some guys without some guys on defense. I think
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: that's hurts them at various times. But the things you
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: can control, losing the football in the way they've lost
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: it is something they can control.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Well, I was going to ask you about JSN, but
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: you brought up point differential and I was looking over
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: the stat this metric that you put up on X
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: and I'm fascinated by it. So you said on your post,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: if we were to not watch any NFL games and
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: just ranked teams by weekly point differentials relative to those
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: for every other team, yeah, this would be the one
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: through thirty two. So and the list is fascinating. You've
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: got the Seahawks or third Rams are first. It's very
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: interesting that the Chicago Bears. I don't think people would
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: be surprised, but they're all the way down at twenty five,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: even though they're eight and.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Three and really good.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: So can you explain this just a little bit too,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: because it's, as someone called it, super nerd stuff.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: It's super nerd.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: It's actually it's really good, but it is like part
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: of being great is that it has to be easy
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: to understand. So this is not quite great, but I
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: really like it. Basically, what you're doing. And if you
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: look at like the Seahawks, people will understand this. You
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: look at the Seahawks when they played the Dolphins. Sorry,
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: I'm looking at last I did this for last year too,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: when the X played the Saints. Right, yeah, take that game. Yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: she X played the Saints. They beat them by more
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: points than anyone.
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: Else beat them.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: So you put a little one next to that, right, Okay,
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: And you go through the entire schedule and you put
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: a one how many games the Sex have had eleven?
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: Their opponents have had no more than twelve games? Right,
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: So you can have anywhere from a one to a
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: twelve against every team you play based on how much
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: you beat or lost to them by relative to everyone
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: else that played those teams, so that it's adjusting to
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: who you've played.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, So when you do.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: That right now, and you figure twelve games is the max,
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: the RAMS average ranking is about a three point two,
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: really good, and the worst team in the league. We'd
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: like the Saints eight point four. The Saints average performance
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: and in point differential against all their opponent's ranks about
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: eight out of the eleven or twelve games.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Low.
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Right, So when we do that for all the teams,
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: you get the Rams, the Colts, the Seahawks.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: And the Chiefs.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: Kind of surprisingly the are four you're like, you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: and you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Get the Eagles, the Bills.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: The Texans are up there that the Texans have been
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: up there high too this year, higher than you would
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: think the Packers, you know. But I think some of
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: those teams at the bottom are interesting. Where you have
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: basically Chicago's eight and three team between Minnesota and Carolina.
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: They're right between those two teams, and we would think
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: they're way better than that. But this kind of differential
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: thing sort of doesn't lie. It's not perfect, but it's
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: a great way to me to look at it, kind
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: of opponent adjusted. Take the emotion out of it, take
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: the you know, the Bears are four to zero and
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: Games is sided by three or fewer points, and it
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: sort of looks past that. Yeah to me, So I
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: kind of like it. I don't know if I explain
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: it great.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: No, you've explained it perfectly. I think it's a fascinating thing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I just reposted it too for any of our listeners
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: who want to go check it out.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, come up with some interesting stuff, man, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: mean very interesting stuff. That is, your brain works in
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: an interesting way because I wouldn't even thought of to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: go dissect the stats like that, and yet you do it,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and it is quite meaningful because it does seem like
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you're getting a little bit more of truth. I always say,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the stats tell the whole truth
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth. I think some stats do lie.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think that there's somewhere you can just say I don't.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, oh for sure, And that's not to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: take you throw shade. I don't know if the Indianapolis
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Colts are eight really an eight and three team at
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: this point. We will find out as their schedule gets
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a little tougher. And yet that's kind of where my
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: next question wanted to be, just one more staying in
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the division, the idea Seahawks apparently have the sixth toughest
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: schedule when you're talking about strength of schedule remaining, the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Niners have thirteen toughest, and the Rams have the twenty
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: first toughest. When I look at those three teams schedules,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I can see how they come up with that. And
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: yet it does also feel like there's kind of wild
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: cards in there where a lot of these publications kind
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: of consider the Carolina Panthers as an easier game, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: yet I don't know if they are. And I feel
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like they can be an easy game like what we
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: watched on on Monday night, and then I also feel
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: like they can go out there and beat some really
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: good teams on any given night. So where would you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: want to be as far as strength the schedule goes?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: When you think of those three teams and the remaining
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: games they got left.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: Well, like a team to me, like Carolina is not
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: a good team. I really don't think they are. They'll
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: have a they had a couple of good offensive games
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: earlier in the year.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: The hard part about.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: The schedule the strength of schedule, and I'm gonna look
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: at it here myself is uh, it's it's giving credit
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: for like a team. If you're playing Carolina, there's six
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: and five. So maybe that's what I'll do here next
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: is just kind of you know, wait this little bit.
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: Look at the rest of the year. I think Seattle
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: has one of the toughest remaining schedules because the Rams
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: and I think the forty edits are still a tough out.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but I think Atlanta is one of those
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: teams too that on any given Sunday is either horrible
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: or good. Don't you feel that, like like you catch
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: them on the wrong day, you know, that could be
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: a tough game. So maybe I wouldn't want to be
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks out of those, uh you know, those those
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: remaining teams, Like this is interesting, who would you better
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: play Atlanta or Chicago?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I would want to play Atlanta, I think, yeah, yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know that to me, Atlanta on any one day.
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: San Francisco still has to play the Browns, who are
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: a terrible team. But that defense, I mean, my gosh,
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: right Cleveland defense, like could totally beat up your quarterback.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: So you know who was our third team that we
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: had the Rams at.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: The Yeah, and they got your Carolina and Arizona. Then
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: they have Arizona twice.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: I love the Rams remaining schedule. Let me tell you.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't like them having to play Seattle
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: because I think Seattle will get that on a short
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: week not a given but probably, But to me, like
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: how many points are they going to.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Score in Detroit?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Oh gosh?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, I think they'll out
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: score Detroit.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: It could be a shootout type of a game. But
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: I'm not overly worried for the Rams against Detroit. I
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: think you're right on Arizona. Now, you never know when
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: you play in the division. Sometimes you split them, you know, unexpectedly.
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: But I think they'll roll Carolina. I think they'll roll
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: Atlanta and Atlanta remember that's circled on the calendar for
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: both of them. Raheie Morris was on their staff. But
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: I think the I think the Rams are in better
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: position to you know, win that one for sure.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like they have any weaknesses either, so
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: it seems like they're going to be just fine.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Good there good.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like that Spec teams this weakness that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Detroit where Detroit still I mean their defense is porous.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you got Detroit and then a short week
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: against Seattle. Those that's the you got to make. Hey,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: if you're another team in the division trying to do something,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: because I do think the other four games could be w's.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, they could be sitting there, what at thirteen
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and four at the end.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Of the year, all right, Sando, So of course We've
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: got some fun Thanksgiving games tomorrow, and the one I'm
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: really intrigued by, I mean, I really want to see
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: this Detroit Packers matchup. But the one I'm very intrigued
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: by is, of course the return of Joe Burrow tomorrow night,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: playing against the Ravens. How are you feeling about him
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: coming back? Do you think they should have they should
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: be playing him? Do you think they should let him.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Fit just sit out the year?
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: No?
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: I do I think that, you know, unless you have
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: some kind of a let's just say he had a
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: really sore calf and they were worried that it was
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: going to lead to an achilles. I think that's a different,
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: yeah thing than being cleared to play. I think when
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: you're cleared to play and you're making two hundred and
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: fifty five million whatever it is, and you're the leader
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: of this team and guys are out there busting their
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: butt for you with who knows what types of injuries,
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: I don't think resting is really an option. I don't
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: think that's how this works in the team sports. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: so that's fantasy football, you know. I think we all
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: sort of govern these teams kind of from afar from
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: our couch with what would be It might make the
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: most logical sense, but the actual going to work part
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: of this thing and being a teammate is a part
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: of this. So I think he's got it exactly right, Burro.
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: Does you go out there and play if he gets hurt?
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: You know what, maybe we're just learning he's not very durable,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: but that's the sport.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: That's your job.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: And if it's not, if it was the last game
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: of the year, to me, it's different. Yeah, but they
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: got to try to give it a run here, you know.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, and I mean not very often are
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you three and eight? We're talking about you know, you
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: know the Seahawks and the fact that the Cardinals are
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: three and eight, and you're like, well, they're out of it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: There's zero chance for them to come back and be
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: a threat in the division. They're three and eight and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: there are only three behind the two teams that are
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in front of him at six and five. So I think, yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you definitely play your guy, get out there, see if
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you can make some magic. And you look at their
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: schedule and it looks like they could make some magic. Now,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: whether or not Baltimore actually turns into the Baltimore. We
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to be at the end of year.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Is the question at hand? There, I've got one more
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: before we got to go sand Oh.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, right now, how much of.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: A genius is John Schneider Looking like, I'm not trying
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to throw dirt on Pete Carroll, but you know the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: geno Smith, you know, moving on from him and going
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to Sam Darnold and just the moves he's made. Right now,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you look at where they're at and where the Raiders
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: are at. You know, it's not all on Pete, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: some of it is.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Well, here's the thing. I think all of us knew
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: and felt that it had kind of come to an
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: end with Pete here right that it was time for
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: a move, and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Fewer of us felt like.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: It's probably you know the status quotes. You know, Smith
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: is get you there. So it's one thing to realize
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: that it might be time to pivot. The hard part
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: is to pivot and actually get better, right And so
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: when you pivot and decide it's time's up on Pete Carroll,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: that's to me, that's logical. But you have to get
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: the right guy. You got to get a good guy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: So for me to see what I've seen with Mike McDonald,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: who I think is really growing into the role. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: think he's good. And then obviously Sam Darnold's been a
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: great addition. That's the part of it that you start
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: saying that g word of like though, those are really
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: genius type moves when you can make them pay off
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: like that, Identifying the problem easy. Getting better after identifying
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: the problem and actually having the guts to pull it
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: off really difficult. And that's why a lot of these
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: teams stick with certain players that are good, not great,
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: or certain coaches that are okay, because you're afraid of
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: the unknown.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yea und percent it would be you know, what
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is the better to the devil you know or something?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Whatever That saying is, you know, better to be with
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the one you know.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And yet it's a bold move to move on from
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in Seahawks history as far
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: as during his tenure. For sure he was. He did
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: some big things here and we won a Super Bowl,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: so uh, but I think it was the right move. Good,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: good week or good last couple of years, I would
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: say for for him, and the Seahawks are reaping the benefits.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But thanks again, Sando. Appreciate you coming on and great
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: stuff as usual, and just wishing you a happy Thanksgiving
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to you and your family.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Brother Ay, happy Thanksgiving to you too. Enjoy the games too.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: We got and we get Friday game too. Let's get
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: four games.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Thursday, Black Friday, then you got college football
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Sunday and then yeah, or Saturday and then Sunday and Monday.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Just get football.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to get like a special circle
• 27:53
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• 27:56
  Speaker 7: I know it's gonna be fun, all right, all right, yeah.
• 27:58
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• 29:16
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• 29:20
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• 29:23
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• 29:26
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• 29:30
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• 29:32
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• 29:34
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• 29:36
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• 29:39
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• 29:40
  Speaker 3: This should be this tree.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: There comes the pressure pennex pas the snap, He's going
• 29:44
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• 29:46
  Speaker 8: Davis down the left side.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Lie there he goes Davis. Here we go TOAs.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: Davis just taking in sixty two yards TOAs Davis burness
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: Man and it's just his fifteenth touch of the air
• 29:59
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• 30:01
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• 30:05
  Speaker 10: three oh seven ago in the fourth quarter.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's wonderful right there. That was great for Cam.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Cam got to witness uh Tony Caster gone going through
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: puberty right there on the air.
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: You picked it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: You took the words right out of my mouth. Now
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: you get to have both myself and Dave and you
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: know we don't have to be brothers today. I'm it's
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: is gonna get full ugly. I mean, that's what that's
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: what you expect if you brought on two crazy old
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: guys that are now plus fifty and this is what you're.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Gonna get now, Yeah, yeah, Softy, what is it that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you're going to bring to the table? A lot of
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: positivity in the in my direction, I.
• 30:42
  Speaker 12: Said November twelfth, twenty twenty two, the day that Tony
• 30:47
  Speaker 12: castor Cone finally realized he can grow much. Yeah, in Eugene,
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: you stole the line out of my mouth, Bucky. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: think that's the day that Tony hit puberty and it
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: happened live on the air at Austin Stadium Number one,
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: I mean number two. I'm just a little bit surprised,
• 31:04
  Speaker 12: cam Ashley. Bucky behind the scenes has been privately telling
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: me how concerned he is about this game on Saturday.
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: Him fan, right, I mean, he he told me the
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: other day. He's like, look, man, I'm not I'm not
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: really you know certain these guys will show up. They're
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: they're a cocky bunch, a little arrogant bunch, and you
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: know the way I mean, you know, Bucky, you told
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: me that Dan Landing gave the whole team the week
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: off from practice. Didn't even think they had to practice
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: this week for this game against Washington. You're concerned about
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: their you know, arrogance, showing up and Washington wiping the
• 31:35
  Speaker 12: field with the Ducks on Saturday. So we'll see if
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: your paranoia has come to fruition on Saturday.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: There's not an ounce of what you just said that's true.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think I am I am not overly confident.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I never am overly confident, though, I mean, for what
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it's worth, I been feel like typically going into this game,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: this might be a year where I would be, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: yet I'm not still and I don't.
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: You're not a real cocky guy to begin with, right,
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: which is kind of a It's kind of like dichotomy,
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: cam and ask you because normally you think like the
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: bigger guys, the intimidating guys, would be the kind of
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: cocky ones.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: Be the bullies.
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: But it's normally the shorter kind of you know, uh yeah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: little you know, uh little man syndrome, guys that have
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: the cocks in the.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: The little Jewish fellas.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly like a little Bucky's.
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: Bucky's just a gentle child man, you know, come on, right,
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: what the hell?
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: You know, well when by the way.
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: The little Jewish fella that he's talking about, you know.
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, everybody calm down, now, hold on just a minute.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: But no, when you're bald and you're tall and you're big,
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: we just walk around and we just ooze ooh's confidence.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: You don't have to sell anybody anything, You just it
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: just permeates from us in a constant view. And by
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: the way, my question is going to be is what
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: is coach Lanning's motivating figure this week in the locker room?
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: Is it a stuffed animal of a husky? Is it
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: a mini helmet?
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: Uh?
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: What will it be for you to be able to
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: see that the motivating fact you're in that locker room
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: that coach can be because the stuffed animal just might work.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: It might be strong enough for him to be able
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: to break apart and rip. But what would be his
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: speech that you well, I mean that will that what
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: will be all over social media? That not only did
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: his script writers write for him, he practiced in the
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: mirror for an hour in his press conference chair that
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: he always sits nice press conference chair that you sit in,
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: by the way, very nice, and and what will that be?
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: What will that be?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Well, if he's playing off of kind of what he
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: did with USC that we're going out here for a
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Trojan funeral, then he's probably going to say something about
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to send these guys over the Rainbow Bridge.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, something you.
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: Know I see for dogs or any Yeah, husky huskies
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: or not.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I get you, I got you, keep up, softy, yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: let's go. This is early for you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 12: I just want to know how much Adderall and Ridlin
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: he's going to be on during the game on Saturday.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: Every time.
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: Well, it might be something else, but I don't want
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: to make any crazy accusations about the guy.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know him better than me. Buck.
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: Is there something more we should worry about with Dan Lanning?
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: Do we have to call a hotline for this guy
• 34:04
  Speaker 12: or something.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's intervention necessary. I mean, if
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: if he ever has a bad season, then yeah, we
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: probably would have an intervention this point.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Just do what you do.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: There was one time I showed up to work here
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and I may might have still been slightly intoxicated. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: came out afterwards and Purple Sheet goes, hey, good show,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and I said, I got to let you know I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: still might be ineviated, and he goes, I don't care.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I don't care what it takes. That was good radio,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and so same thing with Dan Lanning.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, drunk shows are the best shows.
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: Man.
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: I'm totally with you on that. But I mean, look, dude,
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: here's the deal with Oregon. No matter what happens on Saturday,
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: we know what's coming for you guys. In the end,
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: it's the annual piss your pants in the biggest game
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: of the year game. Like yeah, just like I was
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: in the Rolls Bowl a year ago, just like it
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: was in the Pac twelf Championship a couple of years ago.
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: I mean, we all know these guys can't handle I
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: mean really, a lot of people are talking about Sam
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: Darnold cam being able to handle the lights when they're
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: the brightest, you know, in this city. I think in
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: the PNW, we should be talking about Dan Landing and
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: the organ that's not being able to handle the pressure
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: of a big game, because what have they shown they
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: can win? You know what, I'm not being a smart
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: ass here either, honestly, Like what.
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: What big game? What real big game?
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: Has Dan Lanning actually shown he can win and shown
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: up for when.
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: The lights are the brightest?
• 35:18
  Speaker 12: Because every time I see this guy on the biggest
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: stages that college football has to offer, he falls apart.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: I mean, are you're going to take credit for Are
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: you going to take credit for? I mean I'm not
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: even going to argue for what I think that organ
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: is great because they're let's start with this, but do
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: you take a small amount of credit for what they
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: did can destroy the Penn State. I mean, is that
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: a fair conversation or was Penn State just that bad
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: and destroyed the see what they are now? They are
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: now we can give credit where credit is due. I mean, yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: I'll lean on the side of that. They have some talent. Okay,
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: let's just be realistic on that. Okay, they have talent,
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: but I'm not going to give him any credit until
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: they find a way to get to the big mountain
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: and get over the top. That's right, what it is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: We're all measured by this from the sport, and unfortunately,
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: the last couple of times that I've seen Washington at
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: their high level and Oregon at their high level, University
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: of Washington has come out on top. So until they
• 36:12
  Speaker 9: prove it, there is no conversation.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Well then by that account, then then this one really
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: just doesn't matter because we're not really we're not playing
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in the same sandbox at this point, right.
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: Is that truly how you feel? You feel like this
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: team is head and shoulders above Washington.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just I mean we're not playing
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: for the same thing. One's playing the spoiler and the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: other still has the opportunity to go play for all
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the marbles. I'm not trying to be arrogant one bit.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I am certain that coming
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: into Husky Stadium dinged up. Both teams are dinged up,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: but we're nobody's coming in full strength at this point
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: in the season. If you don't go out there and execute,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and you make just a couple of bonehead of mistakes
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that college players make, I could see a very easy
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: way that they come out on top. I mean, there's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: no part of this that even though the Huskies aren't
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: playing for a shot in the playoffs, that they're not
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: going to be coming out here like their hairs on fire,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: that they're going to be coming out with them They
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: want nothing more than to ruin the season, and they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: quite possibly could. I would think that the more likely
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: probability is that that doesn't happen. If I had to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: put money, which I did against Mark Glenn, he wanted
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to bet, and so he gave me a hundred bucks
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: because he took USC straight up last week. Yeah, well
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: he must he must be, because he gave he didn't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: even take any points last week with USC, and he
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: wants to go straight up with the Huskies. So I
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: put my money where my mouth is. At the same time,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not overly confident, and I'm with you, I mean,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: until you win it all, which they never have. But
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's really that's not like it's an easy thing to do.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: One team wins it every single year. You hope that
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you have good enough teams year after year where you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: continue to get bites at the apple where you continue
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to get in to the playoffs and then hopefully the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ball bounces your way. You don't make those costly mistakes
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and when it comes down to it, you have a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: primetime player stepping up. I mean that's where this is
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a big game. It's not as big as even last
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: week's game for the Ducks as far as you will see,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but there's zero chances it's going to be a letdown
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: game because of the rivalry part of Yah. Yeah, So
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like they're going to I feel
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna show up and they're gonna play. It
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: boils down to who's gonna make a bonehead of mistake,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: because if it's just flay, if it's flat.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Out both teams play their a game.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think that this is I don't think that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: there's a way that the Huskies win that game if
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: they both play their a game.
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: Well, first of all, just following up on what you
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: said about what's on the line for both teams. Yes,
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: you are correct. Oregon is playing for the opportunity to
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: embarrass themselves in January. Washington is not. There's no question
• 38:41
  Speaker 12: about that. I will also say this that you better
• 38:44
  Speaker 12: start thinking about missing the CFP if you lose this
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: game on Saturday, Bucky, this is not a guarantee that
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: you guys make the College Football Playoff And how embarrassing
• 38:53
  Speaker 12: would that be to go from number five in the
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: country to missing the college football Playoff because you lost
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: to an unranked Washington team at Husky Stadium. I mean,
• 39:01
  Speaker 12: if you guys lose this one and Dan Lanning loses
• 39:06
  Speaker 12: this all of a sudden, he's one in four against
• 39:09
  Speaker 12: the Huskies in this five games against the Dogs, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: he's got a Washington problem. If Dan Lanning can't win
• 39:14
  Speaker 12: this thing on Saturday. And I think the matchup is
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: closer than a lot of people think. I think Vegas
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: agrees it's closer that a lot of people think. It's
• 39:21
  Speaker 12: a six and a half point spread. When a lot
• 39:23
  Speaker 12: of people thought it would be maybe nine and a half,
• 39:25
  Speaker 12: maybe even ten and a half, kind of like last
• 39:27
  Speaker 12: year's PAC twelve championship game or excuse me, two years ago.
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: I would say this that You Dub is much better
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: than they were a year ago, especially on the offensive
• 39:35
  Speaker 12: and defensive lines. And I don't know if Oregon is
• 39:38
  Speaker 12: better than the team that we saw a year ago
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: with Dylan Gabriel. I mean, obviously you're hoping you're better
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: than the team that got embarrassed in the first half
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: against Ohio State and got run the hell out of
• 39:47
  Speaker 12: the Rose Bowl. That was glorious. I know Cam enjoyed that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 12: I know Ashley did as well. But I'm not certain
• 39:52
  Speaker 12: that Oregon is a better team than they were a
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: year ago. And I know that Washington's a better team
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: than they were last year. I also know that You
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: Dub is a totally different team at home versus on
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: the road. I mean, Demon Williams, Cam, you know this
• 40:04
  Speaker 12: has thrown six interceptions, every single one of them have
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: come on the road, every single one. So this is
• 40:10
  Speaker 12: a totally different animal Cam right at Husky Stadium.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, No, We're way different, and at least in our wins,
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: and I give a realistic stat our wins going into
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: last week, and it carries over forty five plus points
• 40:22
  Speaker 9: and wins and Big Ten games seven points and losses
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: and those are all on the road. So make that
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: make sense you see about home cooking. I think that
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: this team plays well. When I talk about way Washington
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: does They're gonna play with spoiler alert. And I'm gonna
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: ask this Oregon question for you, Bucky. If you lose
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: this game at six, do you feel as confident as
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: being an Ohio State team with two losses making it
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: and making a run. Because if you win and Michigan
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: knocks off Ohio State, you could be in the Big
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: Ten championship game right back where you were last year.
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: Win the game or potentially have a remax versus Indiana.
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: Do you want to be that game? Because Ohio State
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: put up a pretty good blueprint of what it is
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: to lose and still win a title. So there are
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: a lot of situations where whatever you do in this
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: football game, you might have a shot, let's a miss
• 41:09
  Speaker 9: it and win and then all of a sudden or
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: lose in Husky Stadium. Either way, I don't know if
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: there's an easy answer for it, but to me, it
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: is winning. Winning makes it takes the pain away from everything.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, win is obviously the bare bones bottom
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: line of the whole thing. There's I will be cheering
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: for Ohio State to win. Even with the Ducks win.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I don't care about trying to win the Big Ten
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: championship and having to play that extra game that may
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: or may not hurt you. You might climb up the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: rankings a little bit. You win the Big Ten and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: possibly even get a bye. Problem with that is you
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: don't have that week off. I would rather right now,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: as dinged up as they are, and they're both their
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: their tackles are hurt, their center went out last week.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That is kind of one of the paramount parts of
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: what this team and how why they're one of the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: best running teams in the country is that offensive line.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I would rather win this game.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: You solidify yourself a spot in the playoffs, You'll probably
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: get a home game there, and you get that week
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: off instead of playing in the conference championship game. But
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: really all of that to me is moot. I'm under
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the impression if you don't win this game because you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: dub lost that game to Wisconsin. I was wanting you
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: guys to win the game against Wisconsin. Then you'd still
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: be ranked, and then this game would possibly be all.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: There would be a whole heck of a lot more
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: on the table you guys win, you probably in the playoffs.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Even if we were to lose against you, being ranked,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: then there would be a way in which we could
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: still maybe slip in the back doors as in that
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: large bid, because it wouldn't hurt as much. It wouldn't
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: be looked at as quite as a bad of a loss.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that bad. I think the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Huskies are better than they were last year. I think
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Demon Williams is starting to figure out, especially the last
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what it's like to be the quarterback
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and do the things that you're supposed to do. Now,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the inconsistency typically on the road is a concern. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: would think it's been a concern for me every single
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: week when to come in here and talk about how
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: they've played, and it's inconsistent on the road for the
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: most part, against good opponents, they don't have to worry
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: about that they're getting to play at home. I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: there is something with that when it comes to the rivalry,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: how you coach your team up against a rivalry game
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: against a team that there's more on the table than
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: just to win and a loss. There's the bragging rights
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and the King of the Northwest type of a thing.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: How you coach your team up to be fired up,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: but not so fired up that you go out there
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and you're making careless mistakes that you're not real under control.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, and watching basically every snap that they've
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: played this year, this is a more of a discipline
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: team that I've seen out of them when they've played
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: some games. And you're right, Penn State, you can look
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: at Penn State sucking. Now, they did not suck. I
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: think were they the third ranked team at the time.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I don't trust the rankings all that much. I think
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the rankings are nonsense early in the year when we
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: don't know who they are. But they were a better
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: team than they turned into after their quarterback got hurt
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and they ended up firing their coach. It was that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: duck game that kind of sent them.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Pushed them over the job of it. Bucky, No, they
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 44:04
  Speaker 12: Nevada. They beat f I U and they beat Villanova
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: before they played you, they were a nobody, a Tiger.
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: They were totally overrated. They never should have been where
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: they were, and they proved it in the next seven games.
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: All Right, you keep telling yourself that you beat a
• 44:21
  Speaker 12: legitimate team when you didn't.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: They stick.
• 44:23
  Speaker 12: There's a lot of reasons to talk about Oregon being
• 44:26
  Speaker 12: a really good football team and you go into Happy
• 44:29
  Speaker 12: Valley and beating a crappy football team that fired their
• 44:31
  Speaker 12: head coach by six is not one of them.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: If if you think you went to Happy Valley, are
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: not talking about you.
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: We're not talking about you, dub we start Oregon, We're
• 44:43
  Speaker 12: we're talking about the Ducks, talking about them, talking about
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: Oregon going to Penn State, and you sitting here and
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: Duck fans sitting here trying to act like that was
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: a quality win when it wasn't. Again, there's a lot
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: of re Bucky, I got no problem complimenting you guys
• 44:58
  Speaker 12: for the job that you've done. Noah Whittington is a
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: great player. Kenyon Sadik, I'm really concerned about this guy.
• 45:04
  Speaker 12: I know Bucky is on Saturday. Love what I've seen
• 45:07
  Speaker 12: from Dante Moore, no doubt about it. But if you're
• 45:09
  Speaker 12: going to put together a resume of why Oregon is
• 45:12
  Speaker 12: a quality football team. Going to Penn State and beating
• 45:15
  Speaker 12: Penn State is no longer on the on the on
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: the board. Take it off, find a different way to
• 45:20
  Speaker 12: compliment your team.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Well, it's just a part of a company that it's not.
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: It's not like that. Buy.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I think that they are getting the credit that they
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: deserved for that win, exactly what they deserve. Where it
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: looked good at the time, but it wasn't a whole
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: heck of a lot now after the entirety of the thing.
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: Now, let me break that. Let no go ahead, go ahead,
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: you can take credit through a win. I think the
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: Iowa win, truthfully is better than the ben State win.
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: You kidding?
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: I would be. I would be. I would be ringing
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: the bell or whatever flap in your wing about the
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: Iowa win in an absolute monsoon down for going on
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: the road on on a on a day of that
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: when it was an early star than claiming the Penn
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: State was great. I mean, you could take some credit
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: and in the downfall, but that win is much bigger
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: in my mind, and the USC game might be better
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: in my mind.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would say USC game is better, and I agree,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: going on the road and playing at IOWA is not
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: an easy task, especially with all the elements, and they
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: ended up finding a way. That's the difference I think
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: between this year and what I've seen in some past
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: other years. It doesn't mean that they're immune to that
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the rivalry game, which is essentially
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: like a playoff game, or when it comes to the playoffs,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're going to dive into a lot
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: more of that. We do got to go to break
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: right here. But on the other side of this, we're
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: going to have more arguing with a couple of dogs
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: right here in Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I am angry.
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: Ashley should have a statue.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is who I met.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I've earned it.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: That isn't who I meant.
• 46:51
  Speaker 12: I feel like I should have a bench like bum
• 46:53
  Speaker 12: us have a place to sleep.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Actually, that's a good idea. Just a bench.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: No, no, no, I think it's a smoking section out
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: of the side.
• 47:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that makes sense, smoking softy smoking section. Back in
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: the day when I was a smoker. I mean, you
• 47:08
  Speaker 12: could have had like a little donut shop set up nearby,
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: you know, as well why not, man, just go the.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: Whole, the whole deal.
• 47:14
  Speaker 12: We had a smoking section when I was in high school,
• 47:16
  Speaker 12: when I was sixteen years old.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: Is that still a thing? By the way to high
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: school that too?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think one of those kids section.
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: Now, I think everybody just popped vins outside the lunch
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: lady room or whatever. You know.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm right there. I'm in the Zen club
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: for sure. I am wondering you guys. I mean, Jonah Coleman.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier how he got in the game and
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: he didn't look right. I mean it not just because
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: he had a brace that looked like you were clinging
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to his leg. I mean his leg wasn't even bending
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: when he was moving around. It looked like he was
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: in pain. But Jed Fish was like, hey, let's get
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you another you know, touchdowns since you're leading the Big
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: ten in TV. So he didn't look right. We didn't
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: see Denzil Boston obviously a whole heck of a lot.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering how big of a deal is it to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: have those two guys back?
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: Well, just real quick for me, huge.
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: I mean, Denzel is your number one wide receiver and
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: Jonah Coleman is your number one back. I mean, I
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: don't know what more needs to be said. I mean, look,
• 48:14
  Speaker 12: I mean Adam Muhammad is looking better, Jordan Washington has
• 48:18
  Speaker 12: come on in the last couple of weeks, but I
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: think Jonah Coleman is still the DNA in a lot
• 48:23
  Speaker 12: of ways of the offense. And I think it's been
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: a disappointing season for both those guys, right, I mean,
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: Denzel Cam we're talking about him maybe being a first
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: round draft pick, and I think he's probably better off
• 48:32
  Speaker 12: coming back at this point. I think if you were
• 48:34
  Speaker 12: to have told people that Jonah Coleman would be like eighteenth,
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: nineteenth and the big ten in rushing at the start
• 48:41
  Speaker 12: of the year, I think you would have said that's
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: a disappointment for him. So question is, do both those
• 48:46
  Speaker 12: guys have just one big performance left in the tank
• 48:49
  Speaker 12: on Saturday against Oregon, Because no matter how they've played
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: this year, no matter how disappointing the year has been
• 48:55
  Speaker 12: for those guys from a numbers perspective, a lot of
• 48:58
  Speaker 12: that Cam, as you know, can be washed away with
• 49:00
  Speaker 12: a win on Saturday.
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: At top thirty.
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, there's gonna be a lot forgiven throughout the
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: entire season, if you walk away with this win and
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: that going back to the Jonah Denzel issue once once
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: there was I mean when you suddenly play a defense
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: and they figure out how to defend you. The staggering
• 49:17
  Speaker 9: stat for me was the fact that Jonah hadn't had
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: a one hundred yard rushing game since the UC Davis week.
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: And that one, to me, it was not just baffling,
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: but watching Carver go down and then Drew as a
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: Party go down, and then John Mills having to move
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: around and and the group is the offensive line. But
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: this week even Fish said he could get I mean,
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: Drew as a Party's gonna practice a little bit. Pockey's
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: been being able to rotate. But this is as good
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: as our offensive line physically is going to be. Now.
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: I know Landon Hatchetts still out with his with his cast.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: The snap issues with Zach Kenney was a little concerning
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: at UCLA. I did not like that those things have
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: to be cleaned up. But yeah, the running game I
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: thought was gonna to be a lot better this year,
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: and Adam has gotten better. Jordan Washings in his Electric
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: Fast But if I want to be straight honest, I
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: don't know if he's this kind of back that can
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: powerfully handle a bunch of hits as strong and as
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: good as Organ is on defense. I don't want to
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: see him carrying the ball that much. I would rather
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: see Ada Mohammad. But from somebody that has played in
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: a big game injured, I'm gonna tell you will do
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: whatever it takes to play in this football game. Now,
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying doing anything that involves risking your career,
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: but you're gonna do whatever it takes to play in
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: this football game.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see Joan Coleman. I just don't
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: know for sure how long Husky fans are going to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: want to see him. If I mean, a lot can
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: happen in a week. You can heal a lot, especially nowadays,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: especially when you're young like these guys are. But I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he's somewhat ineffective, and I would
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: be willing to bet they do. Go to Adam Mohammad
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: first and foremost and sprinkle in Jordan with some stuff.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Is hoping he can take one to the house because
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: he's pretty electric when he has gotten the ball. On
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the other side one real quick, you guys are talking
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: about Kenyon Sadik. Who is it that you're thinking is
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: going to be the man kind of assigned that task?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Because he is, He's just a guy that's kind of
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: a mismatch. Typically, that's what a good tight end is.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Cam Cleveland knows that. So who's going to be the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: guy that you're thinking this guy has to show up,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: not just keep his eye on him, but actually outplay him.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: Well, I think it's got to be either it's going
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: to be Rashaan Clark and or it's going to be
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: Leeroy Bryant in the slot. And if they do make
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: any adjustments, if they're not afraid, they might slide down
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: now this is it's been done before. They might move
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: a Tacario Davis on the inside and just say hey,
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: this is your man all game. You could do something
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: like that. Coach Walters has gone outside his normal scheme
• 51:47
  Speaker 9: of defensive ideas this year, and sometimes you have to
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: put goods on goods. If you just say, hey, I'm
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: a field corner, that means if you're on the right
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: hash and you're a field corner, so you're always on
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: that side. Afesian has gotten much better this year in
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: tackling and his aggressiveness. And if I have two six
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: to four corners and I have a legit tight end,
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: and my fear is I could bring in a younger freshman.
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: I could bring in Dylan Robinson who's played a lot
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: and as a big freshman corner, I mean he is taller.
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: You could put that on your wide receivers and then
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: now you have a way to defend a tight end
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: who I mean, arguably he's with the best tight end
• 52:26
  Speaker 9: in the country and you have to account for it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 9: So there are ways to do it. You're just gonna
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: have to throw a lot of guys at him.
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think Price Sock's the guy in this game.
• 52:34
  Speaker 12: I'm really curious and actually can't wait to see what
• 52:37
  Speaker 12: kind of scheme Ryan Walters comes up with Bucky and Cam.
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: And I gotta tell you, man, I've been pretty impressed
• 52:41
  Speaker 12: with Ryan Walters because you look at this defense Bucky
• 52:44
  Speaker 12: and there is no all Big ten obvious first team guy.
• 52:48
  Speaker 12: I mean, Price Sock obviously in Takario would probably be
• 52:52
  Speaker 12: the two guys that you would look at, but there's
• 52:54
  Speaker 12: no All American candidates on this defense. He yet this defense,
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: his top twenty in the country in scoring, right. I mean,
• 53:00
  Speaker 12: it kind of reminds me of Mike McDonald that the
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: scheme is the star over at U dub So I'm
• 53:05
  Speaker 12: really curious to see what he does. I mean, I
• 53:07
  Speaker 12: forget the player can but Priceack had to play against
• 53:10
  Speaker 12: the Bruins on Saturday. It was kind of like Nicky
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: Manwari where he shedded a block and just yanked the
• 53:15
  Speaker 12: receiver down. Yeah, through a round. I mean, he's a
• 53:18
  Speaker 12: very physical corner. He's big, he's lanky. I would love
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: to see what he could potentially do against Sadik. But again,
• 53:25
  Speaker 12: I'm just I'm really curious if we're going to be
• 53:28
  Speaker 12: ruing the day that Jacob Monuo decided to play against
• 53:31
  Speaker 12: UCLA and not against the Ducks on Saturday, because I
• 53:34
  Speaker 12: would love to see him, especially against the seam routes
• 53:37
  Speaker 12: of Sadiq, in this game on Saturday. But hey, Bucky,
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: it's been real. I really enjoyed this and I'm actually
• 53:43
  Speaker 12: even more excited that this is now over.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: So happy thanks get well good. I'm glad.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm thankful that you enjoyed it. I will say this
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: just real quick. I think Ryan Walters, if he does
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: end up deciding to bring one of those experienced guys
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: down to just basically try to blanket Sadek as much
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: as possible. That is something I think they should think
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: about doing because they're if the Ducks as of right
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: now don't have a couple of their best pass catchers
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: on the outside, so right, maybe you sacrifice that and say,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: like Cam did, well we'll just go ahead and put
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: a younger guy out there and hope he can hold
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: down the forward against the third and four string UH
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. So well, I'm looking forward to the game.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You going by the way I am going. I'm taking Barren,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: my son is going to his very first game, So
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna be there.
• 54:26
  Speaker 12: Be a great way for him to be introduced to
• 54:28
  Speaker 12: the UW Oregon rivalry. With a loss at such a
• 54:30
  Speaker 12: young age, ye doubt set him up for failure. Now,
• 54:33
  Speaker 12: good call.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's the way it's gonna go.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I think we'll be walking out of there happy. But
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: thanks again, guys, appreciate you guys. Have a good thanksgiving
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you two. But all right, that's U Cam and Softy
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: right there. We gotta take a break here on the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: other side of this, we got Hugh and Greg coming
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: in for a Seahawks round table stick Around Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three kg R f M. Well, Thanksgiving
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: is tomorrow and I am thankful for a lot of things,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and now one of those things is Hugh Millan and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell. You guys are coming on here, and I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: don't have to deal with Softy and cam mother fluffing me.
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I did get a little bit of ribbon from Hugh,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: and that's to be expected him being an actual dog,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: so I'll take that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is good.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Haven't been able to finish our show before Thanksgiving, So
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving to you guys, and thanks for being here.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: We got Hugh, Yeah, Hugh and Greg.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I got a question for you guys about JSN, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: yet I think it's from two different angles the idea
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of what this guy's doing right now.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's still a lot of season.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: He's got to stay healthy and you obviously probably want
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: your number one quarterback to stay healthy, and all of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the things have to continue working in his favor if
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: he's going to track down Megatron for this this you know,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: possible record breaking season. And yet we can still talk
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: about it as if that it is historical at this point,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: just simply because he's already broken the record. But I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: want to go at it from I think Hugh all
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: go with you first about how what he does that
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like a quarterback loves that it is from what he
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: does as a receiver. And then Greg, you can follow
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: with what you see behind the scenes that contribute to
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: this guy being something outstanding. So what is it that
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you see this guy do that probably makes him an
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: absolute dream to work with.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: When it comes to the guy throwing to him.
• 56:22
  Speaker 14: Well, he's quick off the ball at the release if
• 56:25
  Speaker 14: he happens to get jammed or ruled.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: He has.
• 56:30
  Speaker 14: Exceptional body control. When he runs speed outs. He can
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: do it at a tight radius at near full speed.
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: I think in part because of his body composition. At
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: six foot and a half, he's neither really tall nor
• 56:44
  Speaker 14: really short, but he's short legged. The percentage of his
• 56:48
  Speaker 14: height that's in in his legs is relatively low, and
• 56:51
  Speaker 14: so that low center of balance set of gravity allows
• 56:56
  Speaker 14: him to do a lot of quick things. His IQ
• 57:00
  Speaker 14: is next level. He has an understanding both you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 14: by a race of about three to one. I don't
• 57:07
  Speaker 14: have the exact numbers, but I've done the research by
• 57:09
  Speaker 14: a race of about three to one. He excelled in
• 57:12
  Speaker 14: the slot at Ohio State, and so he had to learn,
• 57:17
  Speaker 14: you know, there's more grasping of a of a defensive
• 57:22
  Speaker 14: package that you have to to be aware of by
• 57:25
  Speaker 14: learning it from the slot, and then when you take
• 57:28
  Speaker 14: it to the outside like he has this year, he's
• 57:32
  Speaker 14: already got the knowledge. So he knows how to be
• 57:34
  Speaker 14: quarterback friendly in his zone. He knows when the windows, Hey,
• 57:38
  Speaker 14: I'll turn my numbers at precisely the right time. And
• 57:42
  Speaker 14: the quarterback is very easy to read his idol rate,
• 57:46
  Speaker 14: so he identifies those quickly. And then and then the
• 57:49
  Speaker 14: way he finishes, you know, on these deep balls, Tyler
• 57:54
  Speaker 14: Lockett I think was an extraordinary when he was at
• 57:56
  Speaker 14: a pro bowl level Ish Tyler Lockett, I thought he
• 58:00
  Speaker 14: had an exceptional ability to close on a deep ball.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: But he would catch with his body.
• 58:04
  Speaker 14: You can almost in your minds, I see all those
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: catches where he caught the ball with his forearms and
• 58:08
  Speaker 14: his chest. Jackson Smith and Jigba has that incredible ball
• 58:13
  Speaker 14: tracking ability and an ability to finish with guys grabbing
• 58:17
  Speaker 14: on him on deep passes but he can just pluck
• 58:20
  Speaker 14: it last second with his hands, and so you know,
• 58:23
  Speaker 14: you know, you saw the sixty was a sixty three
• 58:26
  Speaker 14: yarder where you know, he just kind of had enough
• 58:28
  Speaker 14: of a hand fighting. You know, by all accounts, that
• 58:33
  Speaker 14: ball should not have been thrown by Sam Darnold on
• 58:36
  Speaker 14: a third and six. He had an open receiver in
• 58:38
  Speaker 14: the flat. The safety you know, you know, you think about, oh,
• 58:42
  Speaker 14: you're on an island. The safety wasn't on an island.
• 58:45
  Speaker 14: He had helped deep into the post to the anxiety.
• 58:49
  Speaker 14: He had shallow hope help on a low hole. So
• 58:52
  Speaker 14: all he had to do, really do was make sure
• 58:54
  Speaker 14: that you defend the outbreaking routes well well. Now of
• 58:57
  Speaker 14: a sudden that that that's like, I mean, you know
• 59:01
  Speaker 14: that defender's responsibility has been cut in half, and yet
• 59:05
  Speaker 14: he still couldn't cover him well enough when Darnold just
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: dropped that ball, literally walked it out to him. So, Greg,
• 59:13
  Speaker 14: you know, I didn't expect these ratios, but this year
• 59:18
  Speaker 14: you've got JSN at eighty six snaps in the slot
• 59:23
  Speaker 14: four hundred and four to the outside, and you know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 14: you know, well over four pushing you know, four and
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: a half times and yet he's been burning corners.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: You know, before he.
• 59:36
  Speaker 14: Used to burn linebackers and safeties inside. Takes more moxie
• 59:41
  Speaker 14: inside now. In addition to that, he's just wearing guys
• 59:44
  Speaker 14: out on the perimeter.
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: First player in NFL history with seventy five plus receiving
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: yards in the first eleven games of the season. He,
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: Marvin Harrison, and Cooper Cup that twenty one year with
• 59:56
  Speaker 11: the Rams are the only three guys to ever have
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: this many yards through thirteen games and have one hundred
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  Speaker 11: plus yards for the eleven consecutive games, not just to
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  Speaker 11: start a season, but at eleven consecutive game mark. And
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  Speaker 11: as I said, he's on pace to break Calvin Johnson's
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  Speaker 11: nineteen sixty four one town nine O sixty four yards
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  Speaker 11: from twenty twelve to the Detroit Lions. He and Frisman
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  Speaker 11: Jackson work a lot. Bucky and Hugh at practices on
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  Speaker 11: judging balls in the air, high pointing balls, and having defenders,
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  Speaker 11: keeping defenders on.
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  Speaker 3: Into their back hip.
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  Speaker 11: That sixty three yard catch in Tennessee, he was not
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  Speaker 11: the primary receiver on at play and that was not
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  Speaker 11: his route, and when he saw it was going to
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  Speaker 11: be a safety covering him, he decided to take that
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  Speaker 11: safety on a walk across the field from left to right.
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  Speaker 11: After that play on the sideline, Sam Donald went up
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  Speaker 11: to his offensive lineman and thanked every one of them
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  Speaker 11: because they had extraordinary pass rush on the pass protection
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  Speaker 11: on that to allow Donald to time and the time
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  Speaker 11: to run a forty yard route from left and across
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  Speaker 11: the field to the right. And then the ball comes
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  Speaker 11: in the air and Smith and Jig was slows down
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  Speaker 11: and because he can judge the ball to be not
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  Speaker 11: quite as far as he was running, but while he
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  Speaker 11: slowed down, he kept the defender on his back. That
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  Speaker 11: took me And then I don't say this lightly. That
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  Speaker 11: reminded me of Jerry Rice the way. Rice wasn't the
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  Speaker 11: fastest straight line player, yet what made him a Hall
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  Speaker 11: of Famer was how he judged the ball in the
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  Speaker 11: air and then used his body against the defender and
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  Speaker 11: kept the defender away from catching the ball even in coverage.
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  Speaker 11: And for a quarterback, I would think you you would
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  Speaker 11: answer this better, and I would that that makes you
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  Speaker 11: feel like you can throw it in any coverage whether
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  Speaker 11: he's covered or not, no matter who's on him, because
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  Speaker 11: he'll just box him out and he'll judge and he'll
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  Speaker 11: do the right thing with his hands and timing. I
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  Speaker 11: also asked him after the Tennessee game about the fine
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  Speaker 11: line of holding your hand out. We all remember the
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  Speaker 11: famous sticking the handout by Darryl Jackson in the Super
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  Speaker 11: Bowl in Detroit. Got an offensive pass interference in the
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  Speaker 11: back of the ends, and that probably wasn't but just
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  Speaker 11: because his hand got his hand extended the referee, the
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  Speaker 11: official in the back through the flag and negated a
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  Speaker 11: touchdown for the Seahawks against the Steelers. Well, that's basically
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  Speaker 11: what Smith and Jagba did against the Titans. He kept
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  Speaker 11: his hand out. I said, where's the fine line there?
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  Speaker 11: But if you keep your hand out, you doing at
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  Speaker 11: OPI And he says, Frisman Jackson, and I work about
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  Speaker 11: keeping that hand in the frame of my body and
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  Speaker 11: not extending and showing the official that I am keeping
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  Speaker 11: it between my shoulders and not making my area bigger
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  Speaker 11: than the frame of my body. And he said that
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  Speaker 11: I've come really good at doing that. He also said
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  Speaker 11: it doctor the TI as he game, Frankly, I'm better
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  Speaker 11: judging the ball than the defensive backs are. And he
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  Speaker 11: thinks that's his number one trait for doing what he's
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  Speaker 11: doing is that he can judge the ball in flight
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  Speaker 11: better than the guys that are covering him. So far,
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  Speaker 11: he's the best in the NFL doing it. And Hugh,
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  Speaker 11: I'm going to ask him this week about his slought
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  Speaker 11: experience at Ohio State because I think you're exactly right
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  Speaker 11: about his IQ and reading defenses and being much more
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  Speaker 11: effective outside receiver because of what he does inside.
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  Speaker 14: I would like to know. Yeah, I described the amount
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  Speaker 14: he pushes off like goldilocks in the porche, not too hot,
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  Speaker 14: not too cold, and you've got to push off a
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  Speaker 14: little to get the cats, but not too much to
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  Speaker 14: get the OPI but I would like to know verbat
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  Speaker 14: him his quote about the audiblizing. Uh, this this this
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  Speaker 14: freelancing that was taking place during the play because he
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  Speaker 14: mosted from left to right and then ran a corner out.
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  Speaker 14: He was the lined up as the inside innermost of
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  Speaker 14: three receivers. It's man to man like was there a
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  Speaker 14: hand signal before the play? I mean when I coached,
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  Speaker 14: you know, passing game coordinator at high school level, we
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  Speaker 14: used to have the the the corner route or the
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  Speaker 14: seam we used to call call it dolphin check double
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  Speaker 14: finn on the outside and then uh and then then
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  Speaker 14: you have a check by the third either your post
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  Speaker 14: to the corner. But there's there's more to the cohesion
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  Speaker 14: between the quarterback and the receiver than just saying, well,
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  Speaker 14: I'm gonna I'm gonna just go out there and run
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  Speaker 14: a corner route, particularly against an outside leverage guy. I
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  Speaker 14: would love to overbad him what he said when that
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  Speaker 14: took place in the play before the snap?
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  Speaker 3: What have you on that?
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  Speaker 14: Did he give any details, because that's pretty fascinating.
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  Speaker 11: Well, it was. It was actually a lot of what
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  Speaker 11: Donald said as well. After that it was not the
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  Speaker 11: primary target, and then when he saw it was going
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: to be safety man through the motion, that's when he thought, okay,
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  Speaker 11: I I have basically I have the entire right side
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  Speaker 11: of the field to get Smith and Jigbitwo with the ball.
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  Speaker 11: Donald assessed once they saw safety man coverage in the
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  Speaker 11: motion pre snap that he was going to go left
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  Speaker 11: to right across the field for a long Basically it
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  Speaker 11: was a long flag when.
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  Speaker 14: He snapped you on the right side, so so he
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  Speaker 14: went vertical stem and then a corner route.
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  Speaker 3: So so in.
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  Speaker 14: The sense of left to right but it wasn't like
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  Speaker 14: it wasn't like an over route where he the ball
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  Speaker 14: was snapped. Who's on the left side he was, He
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 14: was on the right side of nowhere up against a
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  Speaker 14: one this time. But but but he he went to
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  Speaker 14: the corner route. That would be that would be a
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  Speaker 14: lot of latitude for the quarterback to not know what
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  Speaker 14: route he was running as he's dropping back. You know, so,
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  Speaker 14: I'm that's what mischaracter.
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  Speaker 11: He saw it once he saw the coverage and the
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  Speaker 11: safety go to me man on him after the motion,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: Darnold said he knew he had the flag route the
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  Speaker 11: corner route for Smith, it's just a matter of getting
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  Speaker 11: it long enough to get it to him. And that's
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  Speaker 11: when he credited the pass protection for it. Suffice to say,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: the trust factor is really high for a quarterback and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: receiver of only played eleven games together plus of training camp,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 11: it looks like they've played together for years. There's a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 11: discussion inside of this, well, what about the Cooper Cup
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 11: and residure. Shahita has three catches for thirty yards in
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: three games with the Seahawks right now, when will it
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 11: catch up to him that they're the paponnas of all
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: these targets are Smiths and Jigmin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impressive to say the least. All Right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to break and come back with one
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  Speaker 1: last segment. I might get just an overarching view looking
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: forward about this. We'll stick around and get one more
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: segment of the Seahawks Round Table with Hugh and Greg
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: right after the break here at Sports Radio ninety three
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: point three KGRFM. Welcome back to the show. One final
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: segment on our Seahawks Roundtable. We got Hugh, we got
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Greg breaking it down, getting it from all different angles.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go into this fairly quick. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: a ton of time before people are gonna get home
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: and I don't know to start cooking their turkeys and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll go ahead and I'll start with you, Hugh.
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  Speaker 1: What's your kind of one last thought getting ready for
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  Speaker 1: a game that maybe you feel like, maybe the Seahawks
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: feel like, this is when we should win, Maybe gotta
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: win considering how tight the standings are.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things.
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  Speaker 14: I think it's interesting that the NFC West, the two
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 14: teams that you're competing against, the Rams obviously in forty
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  Speaker 14: nine ers because of the placement. Last year, the Rams
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  Speaker 14: won the division. Seattle was number two, but the forty
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  Speaker 14: nine Ers were last. They the forty nine Ers got
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 14: the better schedule in that regard, and there's there's three
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 14: wild I shouldn't use wild card because that that denotes playoffs,
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  Speaker 14: but there's three slotted games based on your division. And
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  Speaker 14: and for Seattle, because they were number two in the
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  Speaker 14: NFC West, it was the Steelers who were number two
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  Speaker 14: in their division last year, Seattle obviously got to win.
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  Speaker 14: It was the Commanders. Seattle got to win. And now
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  Speaker 14: it's Minnesota and we'll see what happens in that regard.
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  Speaker 14: The forty nine Ers, they with the fourth place schedule,
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  Speaker 14: they've already played the Giants, they have yet to play
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  Speaker 14: Cleveland and Chicago. That's their their corresponding fourth place two
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  Speaker 14: teams that is yet to be determined. And the Rams
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  Speaker 14: they had Philadelphia they lost, and they had Baltimore where
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  Speaker 14: they won, and they have the week before the Rams
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  Speaker 14: play Seattle, they have Detroit, which was the first place
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  Speaker 14: team in the NFC North. So I think this the
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  Speaker 14: whole scale of part that interests me, and then the
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  Speaker 14: other part we kind of touched on it.
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  Speaker 3: The Vikings.
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  Speaker 14: They are number one in the NFL in the use
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  Speaker 14: of three to four that's base personnel, but three defensive
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  Speaker 14: linemen four linebackers. When you have three defensive linemen and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 14: four linebackers to create a four man rush, you're gonna
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 14: have blitz at least one linebacker. So there's more of
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  Speaker 14: an issue with identification. And to that end, the Vikings
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  Speaker 14: are number one in the NFL in the percentage of
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  Speaker 14: their snaps that produce a pressure. So they are doing
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  Speaker 14: a defense that's number one in the NFL. And by
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  Speaker 14: the way, Seattle in training camp when you're practicing that
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  Speaker 14: Seattle is less than two percent they're plays in three
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  Speaker 14: to four. The Vikings are forty four and a half percent,
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  Speaker 14: So they're going to be seeing something that they don't see.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 14: And the Vikings again number one in the NFL. Now,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 14: Seahawks are number one in the total number of pressures
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  Speaker 14: by their defense, but the percentage of plays that produce
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  Speaker 14: a pressure, the Vikings are number one. I don't know
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  Speaker 14: if I've confused in that regard. It's just there's a
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  Speaker 14: difference in contrast where the Seahawks and finally Greg the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 14: Seahawks are number one in the NFL and use of nickel.
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  Speaker 14: The Vikings are dead last thirty second, which corresponds to
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  Speaker 14: what I said about the three to four of the base.
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  Speaker 14: But it's not just base personnel. It's three to four
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  Speaker 14: base personnel, which means that some linebreckers coming from somewhere
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  Speaker 14: and it's still and which seems like a blitz to
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  Speaker 14: a quarterback, but it's still just a four man rush.
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  Speaker 14: They can play their seven zones, which is standard in.
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  Speaker 3: The back end.
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  Speaker 14: So that's a challenge for Seattle's offense. You've seen some
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  Speaker 14: of the effectiveness as reflected in those numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Impressive. Five Minnesota's defense impressive. Hugh, you never cease to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: amaze me. You really don't, honest to God or to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: bore you. No, I don't get bored.
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  Speaker 14: I'll inundate you withissia Manussa.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, Nope, I don't get bored.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, uh that's good stuff, Greg. I mean
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  Speaker 1: what going into this game, which you're kind of overarching
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: thought and prediction on this bad boy two words?
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  Speaker 11: Max Brosmer.
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  Speaker 3: Who the hell is Max Brosmer?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: Exactly?
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  Speaker 11: That's that's the game right there. Max Brosmer played four
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 11: years at the University in New Hampshire. He played one
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 11: year at the University of Minnesota. He didn't get drafted
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: the NFL, he didn't get to my recollection, invited to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 11: the combine, and he's going to start at quarterback as
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 11: an undrafted rookie on Sunday because J. J. McCarthy has
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: a concussion. He's getting all the number one snaps this
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 11: week in Minnesota. They've been saying it seems inevitable that
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 11: he was going to beat the quarterback because not only
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 11: was mcarthy gonna end up getting hurt again, but the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 11: number two is hurt. Carson Wentz is also injured with
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 11: an out out of the year after the year with
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 11: the shoulder injury. So now that is the number three,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 11: a number three undrafted rookie quarterback coming in here against
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 11: Mike McDonald's defense. Game over, end of story. Sam donald
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: could throw five interceptions and they're gonna win on Sunday
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: if the defense just does its job, and they've been
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 11: doing its job pretty much all season, stopping the run,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 11: forcing long third downs, and then being able to pressure
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 11: quarterbacks when it's third and eight, nine, ten to eleven
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 11: instead of third, two and three. The biggest difference in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: the Rams game for the Seahawk defense. The turnovers that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 11: put him in boxes, yes, and the gifted the Rams
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 11: two touchdowns. But Stafford was in third and two and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 11: three a lot, and even in the second half in Tennessee,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 11: the Titans converted all those third and fourth downs because
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 11: it was third and fourth and one, two and three
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 11: and not third and ten. The Seahawks by and large
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 11: this season have had teams in third and tens. This
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 11: should be a mismatch with the defense. I think in
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: my one, I'm not gonna I won't predict a shutout
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 11: again because I messed that up last week, But I'm
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 11: saying twenty four to six something like that.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, Griggs exactly right on that point. But there have
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 14: been a few quarterbacks that under Kevin McConnell have have
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 14: six Nick Mullins, Jaren Hall and do you remember when
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 14: Josh Dobbs was picked up and in three days he
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 14: went like four and oh his first four starts now
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 14: eventually turned into a pumpkin. But mccon Kevin O'Connell has
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 14: some success with these third string young quarterbacks playing well
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 14: beyond expectation. Hopefully that doesn't happen on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, great stuff again and breaking it down,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: figuring out what to look forward to, what to watch
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: out for when it comes into this game. I want
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to wish you both a happy Thanksgiving and thank you
• 1:12:39
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  Speaker 1: here at the morning show and everybody at KJR right back.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, thank you.
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  Speaker 11: Guys, Happy Thanksgiving. Everybody listening as well, with your families.
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  Speaker 1: If we can't, yeah, all right, well that's Greg and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Hugh breaking it down. That's the end of our Seahawks roundtable.
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