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The Crazy World Of Simpsons Memes (with Andy K) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Welcome to another episode of four Finger Discount Extra hit on the four Finger Discount
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  Network home, of course, your host Brendan Dando, and today's guest is
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  a doozy. This is a man who I've been wanting to talk to you
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  for quite some time now. Basically, I'm going to say he's the most
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  controversial name in the Simpsons meme community, whether it be in all the various
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  groups on Facebook or Instagram or whatever. He is none other than Andy Kay.
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  And if you following our page or if you are a member of any
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  of the groups, you know who this man is, Andy Kay. And
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  we discuss in depth his rollercoaster journey in the Simpsons Mean World. Most notably,
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  Andy goes into great detail about the now iconic fifty dollars controversy. And
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  if you are a fan of the Simpsons memes, if you're a fan of
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  if you're a member of the groups, you know exactly what I'm talking about
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  when when I mention the fifty dollars story. If not, you're in for
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  a doozy either way, there is. It's amazing how many controversies there can
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  be in the Simpsons meme groups. And Andy, being an admin of various
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  pages, he tells us all about it and it's a really interesting story.
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  So I can't wait to let you guys listen to this. But before we
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  do that, please follow him on Instagram. He has a very successful Instagram
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  page. It is at Simpsons Underscore Meme Underscore Factory, So at Simpsons Mean
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  Factory where he posts all of these memes up there now And yeah, he's
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  you've taken the time to listen to this show. But enough our shilling.
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  It is time for me to let you guys sit back and enjoy my conversation
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  with the One the Only Andy Kay. I mean, all I do is
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  podcasts these days. But man, you said you've got two small catality your
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  kids six and a half and one before next week. Okay myself, I
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  pity you. Man, I've got a five year old and an almost three
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  year old on the weekend and holy shit, like pick them up from daycare,
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  dinner time, bed time. It is just a circus that just feels
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  like grandhole day. Right. It's madness, man. I mean, at
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  the end of the day, I guess I know. I expected parenthood to
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  be a challenge, to say the least, and there's been parts where I
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  thought, oh, this is just next level where you're like, you know,
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  how am I going to get through this? And I'm talking like,
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  you know, our youngest with sleep issues, college reflux, and sit my
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  daughter had silent reflux, so I know you pay mate. Oh, the
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  first eight months of our second born, basically he was waking every twenty to
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  forty minutes. So my wife and I we were like literally zombies. I
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  remember on my lunch breaks trying to muster up like the energy to go for
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  a walk, and I was just dragging my feet and my mind was just
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  in this haze, gone like what is this? This is not like,
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  this is not living. But with anything, it passes and it gets easier.
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  And look, you know, chat, there's going to always be challenges.
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  But when you think you get past some of those initial stages and you
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  can start doing more when you take them out and you know, you're a
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  bit more social and you don't feel like it's kind of wrapping up your whole
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  life in this kind of in this situation, it actually, you know,
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  gets pretty enjoyable. And of course, you know, the positives obviously always
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  outweigh the negatives. But yeah, man, I'm just it's been the last
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  few years. Some crazy shit's gone on, but I think we're slowly at
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  that point where you know, our artist is in prep, our second will
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  be in prep, not next year, the year after. And look like
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  you know, I'm sure like yourself, you've Every parent you know has their
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  challenges. Some you know, have different experiences. But I don't think there's
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  anyone on the planet who can be like, no, it's all being a
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  brief and when they do, you're like, bullshit, yeah, absolutely bullshit.
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  You're not yet I don't buy it for a second. And some like
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  to betray it, like on social media, like they'll be like everything's amazing.
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  Then look I get it, like you know, you're not going to
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  be always posting the absolute shit and the lows. But I think sometimes that
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  makes it more relatable when you do hear other people and you're like, you
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  know, talk into mats who have kids, you know, similar ages or
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  even different ages, it doesn't even matter, just saying you know, it's
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  such and such has gone through this period where they won't eat and they run
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  off at dinner time, or I can't get them to daycare in the morning.
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  It's always such a struggle or they're not sleeping at night, they're coming
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  into the room, whatever it might be. And honestly, I don't know
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  about you, man, but I look back now at what my parents,
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  you know, kind of I'm sure that they everything that they went through,
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  and I have such a like a grade of fonder, you know, appreciation
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  for you know, because at the time, you don't know, you don't
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  have a clue. You just you're the kids. So you're just doing whatever
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  the hell you want. But quite dad, basically basically so yeah, no,
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  just long day man, working mornings and afternoons leading into bedtime. You
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  know, it's pretty chaotic. But yeah, both boys are I think one's
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  asleep and one's kind of too much. Yeah, I honestly I would have
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  loved to have rolled the dice for a third if I could guarantee a girl.
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  But I was just like another boy. It's already like there's no off
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  button. It's just the second they're both up, they're they're just don't get
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  yeah, and don't get me wrong, like they're actually quite in the scheme
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  of things. Excuse me, like well behaved. It's just the constant just
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  you know, there's no as I said, there's no off put button.
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  It's just this constant high level of energy and loudness and just and it can
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  you know, I'm a pretty chill guy, and it takes a lot for
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  me to you know, kind of I get to that point where I'm just
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  like, but you know, they if anyone can push those buttons, those
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  boys can. But when they work out how to do it too, and
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  you know, sometimes like you know, they figured it out and they're doing
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  it just to you know, either test the boundaries or get a rise out
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  of you. But it's all good, man, It's just it's just parenthood.
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  Man. How do you find time to do Simpsons memes between all these
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  things? Yeah? I get asked that a lot. So after having done
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  this for what I think the first meme of at least the first Simpsons meme
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  I ever made would have been twenty sixteen. So were you doing memes before
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  the Simpsons ones? Was that sort of just you were doing memes and you
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  transition ones? Yeah? Yeah, more just like just stuffing around with making
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  memes about mates, giving them shit, just you know, croping their faces
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  and you know, either making something like you know, I guess pop culture
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  related at the time, with one of them or just something stupid. You
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  were the meme guy at work with you? Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
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  I mean I always had a bit of an art background, even though
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  my job has literally nothing to do with that. And I always, you
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  know, used to do studio arts and drawing and you know, graphic design
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  when I was in high school. So I always you know, had,
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  I guess, that artistic side, and I always loved The Simpsons, and
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  somehow I don't even like I remember just falling you know, into I think
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  it was the first page, was maybe even the first rock bottom, and
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  I just started, you know, just making a few, as basic as
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  it was, and I look back now and I'm just like, oh god,
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  that's terrible. But it was just a bit of fun and it kind
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  of just started to kind of steamroll from there where I guess they got a
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  bit more popular, and you know that comes with the good and the bad,
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  of course, you know, you know, that's just expected. You
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  know. The more that the memes kind of became popular, you know,
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  the more I guess haters came out of the closet too. Yeah, which
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  which I want to touch on that show. It's just it was absolutely I
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  can I can look. People who might hear this who already don't like me,
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  I can explain I know, you know, people you know who do
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  know me and love my stuff will agree, but I'm happy to touch on
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  it now. The bottom line for me is I have never, once in
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  my life ever gone to someone's meme and criticize them, given them shit.
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  I just it just doesn't for me. It adds absolutely no value. What
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  am I trying to achieve? Why am I bringing this person down and they're
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  giving it a go unless you know, of course they're being complete dicks and
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  they're being super racist, and even still I wouldn't say anything, but as
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  like an admin, I would just boot them, like, you know,
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  you, what are you doing? Like this is just you know, you're
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  pushing a political view or you know, something misogynistic just for the sake of
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  it and basically using Simpsons memes as a template like bullshit, don't do that.
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  So we have the admin of a group or a page. I've been
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  admin for like four groups. Yeah, I'm still admint, so rock bottom
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  boat posting, so basically, well, at the moment, I'm not and
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  again there's a long story behind that. I'm not going to go into it.
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  But but look, I basically know all the admins. It was a
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  misunderstanding where I was kind of flushing out a troll using the boat posting account
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  to try and show that, you know, they were just basically even me
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  shit because it was me, and you know, if I posted something as
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  someone else and a blow and behold, they were commenting really nicely, this
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  is awesome. And when I kind of said hey, it's it's it's end
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  in this admin took it as you know, hey, you're using your authority
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  to get like somebody, are you actually kidding me? Facebook groups? It's
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  just so so in terms of the hate stuff, Look, this is how
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  I look at it, and I've always looked at it. I appreciate,
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  for whatever reason, some people don't like when someone or something gets popular.
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  For some reason, they have perhaps some of their own issues going on,
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  whether it's you know, I guess for a lack of a better word,
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  maybe some hatred towards someone else who might be doing better than it's Biggerustralia to
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  be things. It is, the more popular I became, the more I
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  would receive Hey, don't get me wrong, The positives always heavily out weigh
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  the negatives, but I'd have a lot of people coming out of the woodwork.
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  You know, your memes suck you this, blah blah blah. And
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  you know, I remember this. I still to this day that one of
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  the craziest things is I was making memes. Got to a point, and
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  I'm happy to admit this, where I was approached by a few different companies
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  to actually make memes, so a sporty memorabilia company here in Melbourne. Believe
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  it or not, I was making memes for a cryptocurrency agency for their social
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  media, for their social media, and a few others and basically I was
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  getting paid and it was amazing because I was doing something I loved as a
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  hobby and people saw, perhaps you know, the merit in what I was
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  doing, and they said, look, you're the guy. You have to
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  be the guy to do this for us. Who's turning down a role when
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  they were They've been approached to be paid to do something they love. Why
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  would you ever say no? Absolutely So the way I think this got misinterpreted
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  was somehow someone got a drift of this and they got their wife to private
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  message me on Instagram to say that they had a meme that they wanted me
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  to make blah blah blah, and they needed it for their company, and
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  they were willing to, you know, do a deal kind of thing of
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  it was ongoing, and because I had they said, oh, you know,
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  is there a price? And I said, well, look, I've
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  made literally no you know, no, lie, I've made dozens of memes
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  for people just for no rick because they've said, look, man, can
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  you make this meme? And if I've got time, I'll make it.
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  I had a guy whose brother passed away. He's like, could you crop
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  his face in that one of Homer looking into the clouds? That would mean
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  a lot to me, And I did it. Why would I charge?
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  But because I thought this was a business related thing, I said a price
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  and that was it. They just so for forever. Since then it spread.
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  Andy CA's you know, a douchebag. He charges people for memes blah
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  blah blah. And I was like, oh my god. So this fifty
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  dollars thing came up always that's the thing. It's the fifty dollar thing for
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  me. The fifty dollars is just like, so we used to post your
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  stuff, right, and then we start posting stuff everyone's like, oh,
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  it's Nendy k one was he charging fifty dollars for it? And I was
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  like, what's going on here? What happened? So that's it. So
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  basically I see it. I'm not stupid, man, I can see it.
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  I know it's going on. Like. It doesn't FaZe me. It
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  used to. It used to really piss me off because I was like,
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  guys, I was doing what I thought was an ongoing business transaction. It
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  wasn't someone saying, hey, man, you know I've done that dozens Literally,
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  I can show you my inbox, no problem, I have nothing to
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  prove. But because that, this guy obviously had an issue with me already.
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  He's looking for something and he looked at it. And so people started
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  thinking what I was doing was making my memes and somehow trying to just sell
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  them. I'm like, how is that even possible. I post them online,
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  anyone can take them. Yeah. I was making memes for people who
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  approached me in a company setting. So that's some of the stuff I cop
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  And you know, it's funny. When I was a nobody in terms of
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  making memes, no one gave me hard time. But suddenly it was Andy
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  Kay Andy Kay and people. Some people hated that. But why though I
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  don't understand why. Well, it's, like you said, the tall popular
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  syndrome, I honestly believe without sounding I don't want to sound cocky because I
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  know my memes are popular. Do they appeal to everyone? Absolutely not.
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  I'm not stupid. Do I make some memes that are a bit forced or
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  aren't great? Absolutely? But people think, oh, kind of f you
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  because you're popular. I'm gonna I've said, honestly, man, if you've
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  read some of the comments I've read and the hate I've received just over fucking
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  Simpson's memes, it's it's pretty sad. And I'm like, what's happened in
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  your life for you to be so angry and bitter because someone else is making
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  memes? And is because you legitimately hate my memes so much and it causes
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  you anger that they're popular? Or is it because you've posted memes that haven't
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  really garnered much traction and because of that there's some you know, hostility towards
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  them because you're not replicating that. There could be everything and in between of
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  that, and it doesn't, As I said, now, it doesn't phase
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  me because this is what I used to do. I admit another thing I
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  used to cop shit for was and he's you know, you know, really
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  you know weak, you know, he's he's got no skin. It's just
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  and you know, he gets so angry, and it's like, all right,
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  maybe I used to react in a bad way and I wouldn't talk about
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  you know, I wasn't you know, using horrible you know, swear words
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  or you know, just being down. I was just being a smart ass
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  back. But the reason I guess I say that is because at the end
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  of the day, people only see it at face value. It's like,
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  well you haven't seen you know, in one day, I could have copped
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  ten people just out of the blue, like fuck you, you suck.
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  Your memes are horrible. I'm sorry. I don't give a crap who you
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  are. That's going to start to wear you down, and you sometimes can
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  snap and just be like dude, like what's your problem? Now? If
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  someone does it, I just block them. So that's for me. It's
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  just like, look, I can't win. I just trying to make people
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  laugh. I'm not doing it for popularity. I never started for that reason.
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  I genuinely love the artistic side as far as using you know, the
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  different apps on my phone. Yeah, I want to touch on how you
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  do make you memes a little bit later as well. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  man, absolutely, And it's kind of one of those things where yeah,
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  because it's kind of just become this association like fifty dollars Andy, he's you
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  know, he's he's weak, he can't take criticism. It's like, man,
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  why are you criticizing anyway? First of all, I would never do
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  that to anyone. What's the point, as I said earlier, what am
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  I trying to achieve from this? Like, I don't understand what the ultimate
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  goal is. Do you think like that you bringing me down? Is that
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  making you feel better about yourself? Like do you have you know, is
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  it because you've got, you know, self esteem issues? Is it that
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  your life is at a point where you're so angry the world that this is
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  how you kind of And that's the thing. It's social media. Anyone behind
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  a computer or a phone can have no consequences for being an absolute douche and
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  can rip into you. It's like kids at primary school. They didn't know
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  what they were doing. But man, sometimes you know, I've had like
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  death threats and I'm going to break your legs over memes. I've had people
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  send me death threats to our Facebook page because we didn't give credit to a
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  meme that they made. But it's like, because someone sent us the meme
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  and I was like, who made this, Oh, I don't know,
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  and I'm like, well, and that's yeah, so you put it on
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  and then I'll post in the comments if you know who made this, let
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  me know, which is what I did on this particular one. And they
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  went ballistic in an inbox and I was like, fuck, it's just it's
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  not like you were trying to claim it. It's like me, Brendan Dando,
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  I made this people. Seriously, man, some people just need a
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  fucking reality check and just to snap out of it. This is why I
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  hate social media, you know, in that regard. But look, you
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  know I've admined for three or four different pages at least with my own Instagram.
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  You know, I can just control because you know, in the early
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  days when I started my Instagram, you know, I had all the dickheads
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  who you know, used to cause me grief, especially in you know,
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  see Compy Global Hope Omeganete page. I left that ages ago, but that
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  was one of the cess pools where you know, people just it became like,
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  oh, people are bashing Andy, and you'd get all the kind of
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  bam wagons, you know, guys like, oh, I guess this is
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  what we're doing now. It's like they're not shitting on New Simpsons and more
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  than sitting on Andy k memes. Yeah, yeah, it's just and you
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  know, just to put it into perspective, I like have got hate pages,
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  like literally mean, people have created pages. Just one's called like no
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  Andy's you know page. I think it's hilarious, Like like, if you've
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  invested your time and energy to create a page to hate someone over Simpson's memes,
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  you're the one who needs to relook and reevaluate your own life because that's
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  fucking pathetic. And I know what it again, it was like there was
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  some bond someone who and this is what I always find the most amusing out
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  of out of all the dickheads who you know, like the troll is they
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  want to rip you to shreds. But the minute you even stand up for
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  yourself, even if you're not derogatory at all, they'll be like, oh,
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  yep, so you can't take criticisms, it's like okay, or they
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  rip you to shreds and they want a reaction, and then when you might
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  boot him out of the group, they're like, he's an absolute asshole.
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  It's like, my god, you were the biggest douche ever. You've absolutely
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  ripped me to shreds for nothing. Mind you. Again, I keep to
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  myself, like I like other people's memes or comments, you know, if
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  I find it funny that a lot of other you know, me makers I
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  really respect. But I've never, as I said, given someone a hard
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  time. So it's like it just boggles the mind when how often it could
• 20:56
  happen. So I've booted a lot of people out of pages purely because not
• 21:00
  even to do with me. I see it where they're ridiculing someone just ripping
• 21:03
  into them, and I'm like booted. And of course I'll cop the flak
• 21:07
  if they find out, you know. So look, it comes with I
• 21:11
  guess the territory as far as someone I mean, look, I've never you
• 21:15
  know, had an opportunity to be in a situation, I mean, like
• 21:18
  I got, you know, in some situations where I was like even to
• 21:22
  pinch myself moment, like the fact that. I've even had Nancy cart Right
• 21:26
  like and comment my memes on Instagram. Yeah, the people that work on
• 21:30
  the show are liking your stuff, so it's like nobody think, you know,
• 21:34
  you know, that's it. Me and Bill Oakley talk quite a bit.
• 21:37
  I'm gonna ask whether you actually been in touch because he likes nearly all
• 21:41
  of you posts. Yeah, oh yeah, so he's been following me.
• 21:42
  He's re shared and retweeted literally like dozens and dozens and dozens like on his
• 21:48
  you know, Twitter and stuff, and on his Instagram, and you know,
• 21:52
  obviously you know the legend who created Steam tams Man. I mean,
• 21:56
  I can't believe he's following me and my account and loves my stuff. And
• 22:00
  it does it puts it into perspective. You're like, so some some guy
• 22:06
  you know from Bloody, you know, Frankston hates my memes and hates me
• 22:11
  apparently because they're popular. But I've got the voice of Bart Simpson and the
• 22:18
  original writers. And then I again, like I've had some you know,
• 22:22
  amazing stuff like that, so it puts it into perspective. If I didn't
• 22:26
  have kind of you know, a good reception too. I mean, I'm
• 22:30
  not saying that's the reason to do it, but it helps to kind of
• 22:33
  push some of the hate stuff aside and say, Okay, I know,
• 22:36
  you know, I realize why I enjoy doing this. I even had someone
• 22:40
  from the Hollywood Reporter interview me from New York over the so that was cool.
• 22:45
  And what was that for when it's about two you two and a half
• 22:48
  years ago and she was actually in the process. I don't know if it's
• 22:52
  finished. I haven't touched base with her for a little while, but she
• 22:53
  was writing a book and she's got a lot of contacts with like, you
• 22:57
  know, a lot of the voice ACKed and the writers. And she just
• 23:00
  said, you're you know, everyone seems to know Andy k memes. And
• 23:04
  she asked me, like, you know, would you like to be interviewed
• 23:07
  and what's your process? And I was just like, wow, man,
• 23:11
  that's awesome, Like I'd love to so in terms of how I make them,
• 23:15
  I think, going back to what you said before, man, they
• 23:19
  don't take that long these days, because I think you kind of fine tune
• 23:25
  you know your craft a bit. And you know, I literally used two
• 23:29
  or three basic apps on my phone. Which apps are they? Yep?
• 23:33
  So hm the app for cropping is photo Lasso. So basically, anytime you
• 23:41
  need to cut out a head or body part in terms of the actual art
• 23:48
  side where you're actually doing the coloring and you know, adding things like facial
• 23:52
  features or whatever, it's just called art Studio. And the other one is
• 23:57
  just a auto cap free it's the free app for the text. So so
• 24:06
  basically my process is usually Okay, you get the idea and then I basically
• 24:12
  will figure out like all the screen grabs I need. So Frankiak's your best
• 24:18
  friend for that, mate, what a life saver. Ray. If it
• 24:22
  wasn't for Frankiak, I couldn't do eighty five ninety percent of the memes I
• 24:26
  make, so that's been absolutely amazing. And then basically I'll get them all
• 24:30
  laid out and then I'll be like, okay, so I need to cross
• 24:33
  his face on Homer's body, so then I'll you know, crop them all
• 24:37
  out, put them on. Obviously they look really shit at that point,
• 24:40
  so then I go into the art app and then I do all the adjusting
• 24:44
  color changes, cropping out the background if Homer's heads a bit more out of
• 24:48
  the way than you know, this character, and then once all that's done.
• 24:52
  I basically input it into the text app, add the font, and
• 24:56
  then basically that's it. It's kind of like, you know, you know,
• 25:00
  I get like sometimes after doing it for so long, you know,
• 25:04
  you might be an occasion like a shit, you know, what's my next
• 25:10
  kind of idea? But it does, you know, for me at least
• 25:12
  anyway, Like I don't have to sit there just really like straining out an
• 25:17
  idea for like hours, something will just come to me and believe it or
• 25:22
  not. Man Like I you know, some people think I have to watch
• 25:25
  the Simpsons like every day. I haven't watched the proper episode in so so
• 25:30
  long. Our viewing habits have changed so like it's all on Disney Plus now.
• 25:33
  Plus we've got two small kids, so it's like they watch what they
• 25:36
  want to watch half more most of the time these days for me and you
• 25:37
  in this household. So I was saying to the other day to my co
• 25:41
  host, I was like, I feel like you might spare time. I
• 25:42
  barely watched the Simpsons anymore, which was like sad to me because like the
• 25:45
  Simpsons is does always be on, Like have you found that you don't watch
• 25:48
  them anywhere as much as you used to Yeah, man, I really don't.
• 25:52
  I know that as my boys get older, I'll you know, introduce
• 25:56
  them to it and really get you know, because it's a absolute masterpiece of
• 26:00
  his show, especially of course the Golden era. So that I find myself,
• 26:04
  look, man, between working full time, kids, trying to balance
• 26:11
  any form of social life, and you know, by the time I,
• 26:15
  you know, put the boys to bed and I want to watch something,
• 26:18
  generally I'm not you know, we might watch something on Netflix or you know,
• 26:22
  a new series on Disney Plus or something. So I actually don't have
• 26:27
  much time these days to watch the Simmas. But because I've watched every episode
• 26:33
  so many times and because I make means literally still to this day, basically
• 26:37
  daily, it's so ingrained in my head that I don't I don't think I
• 26:42
  need to, man like anything from season you know one on two you'd rarely
• 26:48
  touch on unless it's like a they didn't They didn't put them on TV very
• 26:51
  often anywhere on Channel ten. I feel like it was like three onwards,
• 26:53
  and even three not so much. It was more like four through like eight,
• 26:56
  I reckon the most. Do you remember I am the first time you
• 27:02
  ever watched The Simpsons ever? I remember the first time I ever saw them.
• 27:06
  So there's a couple of stories. Yeah, so the first time I
• 27:08
  ever saw them was I was a huge Muppets fan when I was a kid.
• 27:11
  I was a big Muppet kid, and they used to play them apparently
• 27:14
  like six am on Channel ten every weekday. My Naan used to like record
• 27:18
  it for me before she go to work, and I would go to NaN's
• 27:18
  place and watch the Muppet Show. I remember because obviously because she was putting
• 27:22
  it on before she go to work, they'd get the ads in between the
• 27:23
  episodes or throughout the episodes, and it was like, and she's I've still
• 27:26
  got the tape. I kept it because she passed away. I kept the
• 27:29
  tape from her house. It was like new show coming to Channel ten.
• 27:33
  It's the Simpsons. It's the fucking first Channel ten bromo. Yeah, wow,
• 27:36
  I remember going. They looked different because they were yellow and stuff,
• 27:40
  and I never watched it. But apparently I don't remember doing this, thank
• 27:42
  god. But Bad dream House I've told a story a million times, but
• 27:47
  a Bad Dream House was apparently on at my house. I would have been
• 27:49
  three, maybe four most of the time. When Maggie goes to the draw
• 27:53
  and the kitchen and gets a knife out. I did the exact same thing,
• 27:56
  and I was banned from watching the Simpsons un til I was six.
• 27:59
  Oh wow, okay, they man, there you go. So I think
• 28:03
  that's where my love for the show came. Because I was not allowed to
• 28:04
  watch it. I'd occasionally, like see that a friend's house or things like
• 28:08
  that because they have like those videotapes where they had like the four episodes on
• 28:11
  it and things like that, or they'd rent the videos from the shop.
• 28:14
  But like I was allowed to properly watch it till I was six, and
• 28:17
  now I just consumed it so much, you know, oh absolutely, Like
• 28:22
  I recall me and my brother excuse me, watching TV at our very first
• 28:29
  house, So this would have been I suppose. I guess the first time
• 28:33
  they aired Simpsons was eighty nine, ninety or was it ninety ninety one the
• 28:37
  first time we got as I believe it was ninety one, right, maybe
• 28:41
  ninety one, because I recall seeing the ads and like you said, man,
• 28:47
  something about the animation the yellow characters just like drew me into it.
• 28:52
  And I remember watching the very first episode on the couch sitting next to my
• 28:57
  dad and my brother sitting next to my mind and just watching the very first
• 29:00
  episode and just being like already, just something about it, just you know,
• 29:06
  gravitated towards it. And I remember just you know, Saturday and you
• 29:11
  know, week nights at ten o'clock sorry, and six o'clock and just being
• 29:15
  like, this is the best. And it's kind of weird when you look
• 29:21
  back, actually being at a stage kind of similar to how I was with
• 29:23
  Seinfeld where you were kind of watching episodes come out at that time during the
• 29:30
  Golden Era and not just realizing what an impact this show perhaps was actually having.
• 29:36
  And then I remember, I'll never forget this as well, when from
• 29:40
  recollection, I think it was they changed show runners. I think around season
• 29:44
  twelve. Yeah, that's when we went back to al Gene. Yeah.
• 29:47
  Yeah, And that's when I noticed a huge for me personally, a huge
• 29:52
  drop in quality as far as the direction of the show, the absurdity,
• 29:56
  just the lack of heart in it. And it's like, ah, it
• 30:00
  didn't sit too well. And then as the years kind of progressed, and
• 30:03
  it's amazing how you can still you know, look back. I mean,
• 30:07
  honestly, I've seen a handful of new episodes, and you know, I
• 30:08
  don't sit there on you know, this is you know, complete dog shit.
• 30:12
  But some episodes I'm like, jeez, it's just it's you know,
• 30:17
  it's just not the same. And that's fine. It doesn't have to be.
• 30:21
  You know, it might be drawing a whole new generation of fans,
• 30:25
  but for me, just living and breathing it through the nineties was just you
• 30:29
  know, and who doesn't know. I mean then some of the most did
• 30:32
  not the most recognizable cartoons ever and because of you know the fact that I
• 30:37
  had the art background, I love the Simpsons, you know, and trying
• 30:42
  to infuse a bit of humor you know into that. And then it kind
• 30:48
  of took a life of its own because for me, you know, also
• 30:49
  growing up gaming and loving you know, Super Nintendo and you know, Mortal
• 30:55
  Kombat, Mario cart Street Fighter. So I started incorporating a lot of crossovers
• 30:59
  with my meme. So a lot of the relatable ones too seem to do
• 31:03
  quite well. Did you do the Rainbow Bridge one? That was the best?
• 31:07
  Yeah? Yeah, holy shit, that was a fucking peak. That
• 31:11
  was other man, I've done a lot of you know, and again that's
• 31:15
  another thing. Sometimes I cop shit for and that's fine. Like I guess,
• 31:18
  sometimes I do go through a stage of having something I kind of go
• 31:22
  back to, and it's because I love it. You know, I've done
• 31:26
  a lot of crossovers with yeah, street Fighter, wa Combat. But then
• 31:30
  again, I've done a heap with movies, Terminate a Ninja, Turtles,
• 31:33
  Jurassic Park, you know, and then it's it's so it's pop culture stuff,
• 31:40
  you know, stuff with bands, stuff with TV shows. But look,
• 31:45
  man, I you know I've I look back and yeah, I mean
• 31:49
  I had a meme, a real basic one recently where it was I made
• 31:55
  it where it was an up view of Homer's face sitting on the couch,
• 32:00
  and I made the kind of quote every fifty year old guy posting their profile
• 32:06
  pick that went so well. Well, man, I was scrolling through my
• 32:12
  feed and I had a recommendation for this meme page and of course, low
• 32:16
  and behold, someone's posted that meme. It was at that stage I don't
• 32:21
  even check again, it was one hundred and sixty six k likes. Crazy.
• 32:25
  I was like, what the what the hell? Some chick had just
• 32:29
  found it and she'd reposted. And again I didn't care, like honestly,
• 32:31
  like I used to care, and it's like whatever, like do you still
• 32:36
  put your name on them? Or do you stop doing that? Look?
• 32:37
  No, I do occasionally, but honestly, like sometimes I just like,
• 32:43
  what's the point? Like I I, you know, I used to put
• 32:46
  andy kay as an actual watermark, and then I'd have to go into another
• 32:51
  app to put the watermark. So now I just kind of hand wrote a
• 32:52
  K. If I remember, I'll do it. But sometimes I'm just like
• 32:57
  whatever, like I'll just do it. I'll just quickly put it up and
• 33:00
  just be like, man, you know it's gone. Stop. You're probably
• 33:01
  going to crop out the watermark anyway in some way. Yeah, I had.
• 33:05
  I've had a page, an Argentinian page, and they were literally stealing
• 33:10
  every one of my memes and just cutting out all the text and replacing it
• 33:15
  with again at the time it used to put it. I've just got to
• 33:17
  look at it now and just be like, hey, people like my stuff
• 33:21
  whatever, that's cool. Like, you know, I've had people be like,
• 33:23
  hey, isn't this yours? Man? Like there's a guy on Reddit
• 33:27
  who is like getting like hundreds of thousand likes for all your memes and that's
• 33:30
  all good. I've seen, as I said, other Instagram pages use my
• 33:36
  stuff and dad like it's it's crazy man, Like I don't. I guess
• 33:40
  that's a way of saying, hey, you know if they like it.
• 33:44
  So, I mean, it'd be nice occasionally if someone you know would credit
• 33:49
  you and just say yeah, this is But you know, if it's in
• 33:52
  a forum, whereas like bought posting, you know, you can call someone
• 33:54
  out pretty easy, like come on, dude, that that's my hand.
• 33:59
  But if it's some Argentinian guy and you're just like, they're never going to
• 34:02
  respond. Nah, I don't care. I always try to link to your
• 34:07
  Instagram page these days, I do you put one of yours up? Yeah?
• 34:09
  And little man, as I said, like, it's funny how I
• 34:13
  could guarantee you, like, if you put a number of my memes up
• 34:16
  without crediting me, you'll see, you know, a very different response in
• 34:21
  the comments section. That's why started putting the Instagram link, because when I
• 34:24
  was putting credit Andy Kay, all these comments are coming through blah blah,
• 34:29
  and I'm like, well just put a link to his Instagram page instead,
• 34:30
  and people just didn't realize it was you half to talk it was just Simpson's
• 34:34
  meme factory, like, oh this is great. I see you. If
• 34:37
  I had to put andy K, you would have shooed on this for no
• 34:39
  reason. And that was like the guy that I kind of I'm not going
• 34:44
  to name him, but he basically has about I've had the block can of
• 34:47
  his accounts. He's like obsessed man, and he just keep going creating new
• 34:51
  accounts. Bill. There's Bill as mac grainy, but no, like there
• 34:59
  was this one guy. He just was a hell bent on giving me a
• 35:02
  hard time. And as I said, I did the little theory of posting
• 35:07
  something as not me as the bought posting kind of admin, and he loved
• 35:12
  it and was commenting, and I think the comment even was along the lines
• 35:15
  of so this is so much better than something andy K could ever do.
• 35:19
  And I pissing myself. And then when I wrote under it, you're joking,
• 35:24
  right, and he's like, what do you mean? I'm like,
• 35:27
  you know, this is actually an Andy King mean And then from there the
• 35:30
  other admin took it as you. I was just like, I'm not going
• 35:32
  to get into it. Look, I'm just trying to prove a point.
• 35:35
  And I flushed him out to just get rid of him, and I was
• 35:39
  proven a point again that like, you know, some people will just hate
• 35:43
  on you because they hear the name, Like I've seen the guys like recently,
• 35:45
  like some guys who'll be like fifty dollars and I'll be like, hey,
• 35:49
  man, if you want to believe a rumor started by someone who you
• 35:54
  know has his own bloody issues and created this out of some hatred to towards
• 36:00
  me based on no truth, like the fact that he thought like, yeah,
• 36:04
  I just make means and try and some I don't understand why that bothered
• 36:07
  people anyway, even if you did that. Ah, it's just like,
• 36:09
  oh, how dare you try to earn money for something that should be free?
• 36:15
  But you've made something? Who cares if you're trying to You're not making
• 36:21
  them pay you, so why do they care? I just don't understand that.
• 36:22
  And and the concept was so stupid, like they legitimately thought I was
• 36:29
  making memes and somehow like, well how would I even like would I put
• 36:34
  them on a website and people would bid for them? It's not bloody NFT,
• 36:37
  it's not an NFT. So I don't know. And it's almost like
• 36:42
  that angered people so much. For some reason, and it wasn't even true.
• 36:45
  Like, as I said, I was open and honest about saying I
• 36:49
  have made means for companies. The fact that they approached me, I think
• 36:52
  is amazing. That I was getting paid a weekly salary to make me.
• 36:58
  Maybe that's jealousy, Maybe that's there are insecurity. I don't know. I
• 37:00
  don't really care. But it resulted in just this backlash, you know,
• 37:06
  Like I had one guy just ripping into me because I was using at one
• 37:09
  stage a template and I was basing the joke on a rhyme. Okay,
• 37:15
  whatever, big deal, and he just thought it was He just he couldn't
• 37:19
  let that go. I'm so clever and he's rhyme in a word with another
• 37:22
  word. I'm like, why are you getting angry? Man? It's a
• 37:27
  meme. What's the problem. Do you still get them with that? Still?
• 37:30
  The people complaining about you and bring this up look generally nowhere near as
• 37:37
  much at all. And I think a big part of that is because I
• 37:40
  left you know, the most toxic page a few years back, and you'll
• 37:45
  find it. I've blocked a lot of people, and I cop shit for
• 37:46
  that because another guy's, oh, that's the other thing. Andy can't take
• 37:51
  criticism, so he blocks him on No, no, no, no,
• 37:52
  no, I'll block you because you're a fucking dickhead. I blocked you because
• 37:57
  you're berating me, you're abusing me, and I'm meant to just sit there
• 38:00
  and take it. Well, No, I've got better things to do with
• 38:04
  my life than listen to your crap. I don't need your negativity. If
• 38:07
  you hate me, good for you, man. But to go out of
• 38:10
  your way to just say some shit, good for you, man. But
• 38:15
  I don't want to hear it. So I'll block you because at the end
• 38:17
  of the day, I used to argue with dickheads like you, and what
• 38:22
  am I? I'm getting pissed off about it. You can't win no matter
• 38:25
  how you react to those kind of people. We win, Yep. I've
• 38:29
  had guys like where they just want to start a fight, So you could
• 38:30
  just joke back, be really polite and doesn't matter. As you said,
• 38:34
  it doesn't matter what I would say. It doesn't it. They've already made
• 38:37
  their mind up that they hate you. Again. It could be just based
• 38:42
  on hearing some other person talk crap about me, and that's it. So
• 38:46
  look, you know that's the negative side, that's fine. You know,
• 38:51
  As I said, I do get way more positive feedback. And I've had
• 38:55
  some amazing situations from you know, your Bill Oakley is to interviews. And
• 39:00
  I know this sounds crazy, man, but I literally have been approached at
• 39:06
  least i'd say six seven times here in Melbourne by people who have recognized me,
• 39:10
  Like whether it's at a club. I was even at a Bucks night
• 39:13
  once at the streets for a Bucks. Did you and put your face on
• 39:17
  memes? Sometimes? Did? You can't remember those ones? No? Man,
• 39:22
  just going to my profile sust me out. Yeah, they probably see
• 39:25
  and Andy Kay, they click on my profile, I guess they see what
• 39:29
  I look like. And so I'd be out and i'd literally have a guy
• 39:32
  come up, like even recently happened twice. I was at like a Djight
• 39:37
  event and some guy kind of looking at me. I'm trying to suss out
• 39:42
  is he trying to like start a fight? And no, it came over
• 39:45
  you, Andy Kay and have a chat. That's cool, man, Like
• 39:46
  I you know, I love I love that. You know, it's crazy,
• 39:52
  like you know it all because of like some symptons memes. But yeah,
• 39:54
  so like the process, man, I mean in terms of finding tire,
• 40:00
  I'm you know, I do find it pretty relaxing. So I might
• 40:05
  put the boys to bed, I might have maybe thirty forty five minutes before
• 40:09
  maybe my wife will, you know, joining me watching TV. She might
• 40:13
  go have a shower or do do something else, and I'll just find that
• 40:16
  little window man and I might have an idea already kind of going around,
• 40:20
  and I'll just put it into action and look, some memes you can knock
• 40:24
  out a lot quicker. Some give you go through my Instagram, you can
• 40:28
  see I've put a lot more work into it. But I don't find it
• 40:30
  like a like a hassle. I really enjoy it. It's like I guess,
• 40:36
  kind of like with Jim, for me, it's therapeutic, like I
• 40:38
  go to the gym because I genuinely enjoy it. I don't think it's about
• 40:43
  an appearance thing so much as it is is the release you might have,
• 40:46
  you know, a hard day, or you don't even have to have a
• 40:49
  hard day. It's just this kind of some form of release as far as
• 40:52
  making memes. You know, it's like you switch off and you kind of
• 40:58
  go into autopilot mode, like you just on there. If I had to
• 41:00
  sit behind a computer and do it, I probably would never have made a
• 41:04
  meme in my life. But it's convenience of on the phone, man,
• 41:07
  so shit and making meme at the same time, killing two birds beautiful beautiful.
• 41:15
  So yeah. Man, it's been a crazy six seven years of doing
• 41:20
  this, all the highs and lows as far as but at the end of
• 41:23
  the day, look, I'm a dad, I'm a husband, I work
• 41:28
  full time. It's a hobby. It's cool that I've had some recognition.
• 41:31
  As I said, it goes sometimes hand in hand. And look, man,
• 41:36
  I'm a nobody. I'm just someone who makes memes. I can only
• 41:37
  imagine, you know, like a celebrity, some of the hate that they
• 41:42
  must cop and I see it. I see any bands, you know on
• 41:46
  social media, everyone's everyone's you know, can has a voice behind their computer
• 41:52
  or their phone. So if I'm copying what I cop just as someone who
• 41:55
  makes memes, I can only imagine what it'd be like for someone who voices
• 41:59
  in aion or you know, has other people having to run their accounts.
• 42:04
  Because I've seen some you know some you know, someone says their Trump or
• 42:09
  their Biden and automatically, their their Instagram account becomes a hate page for the
• 42:15
  other people on the other side. That's the nature of where we're at in
• 42:19
  twenty twenty three. I keep politics out of everything we do. It's just
• 42:22
  not worth the fucking hassle. Dude. If you look through my memes,
• 42:25
  you'll never see one political memes. It's not worth it. The only time
• 42:30
  I've ever included like an Australian like prime minister or something is for the joke,
• 42:36
  as far as it could be based around their name. It's not about
• 42:39
  their political stance or their that doesn't like for example, like you know rock
• 42:45
  Bottom. I'm an admin and it's at a point now and for a very
• 42:52
  long time where it's as I said before, people are using Simpson's memes just
• 42:58
  as basically a conduit to push their political views. So there's a lot of
• 43:02
  hatred and it's just like, man, that's why I avoid it. Because
• 43:07
  we started the podcast. That's what our pages for the podcast essentially, But
• 43:12
  we sort of became like a mean thing as well. But we started the
• 43:15
  podcast to just sort of create a like minded Simpsons community. We can just
• 43:20
  talk about the Simpsons and have a good time and you go into the ship
• 43:22
  posting groups nowt it's just so much angst, just straight away from why what
• 43:27
  they'll created for in the first place. That's exactly why I don't. I
• 43:30
  don't see the point like I'm trying to make people laugh. I'm not trying
• 43:35
  to push, you know, my own agenda. What's the like do that
• 43:38
  somewhere else, man, go to an actual page that's dedicated that might share
• 43:43
  your views. But when it comes to Simpsons, man, keep it just
• 43:46
  freaking low key, funny, relatable. You know, I applaud people who
• 43:54
  give it a crack. I couldn't care less, you know, if it's
• 43:58
  low quality or you know, they it's my cup of tea as long as
• 44:01
  they're giving it a crack man, because I know my memes aren't a cup
• 44:05
  of tea for everyone. Sometimes, you know, the worst they look,
• 44:07
  the better. It adds to the charm of it as well. It does.
• 44:09
  It's like some like again I don't want to name names, but there's
• 44:13
  one guy in particular who you know, I think that's his kind of his
• 44:17
  niches. There's really kind of like badly crop but in a way that's like
• 44:22
  it makes it so much better. I love it like crack because he knows
• 44:27
  it. It's not like he's just like taking the piss out of himself.
• 44:30
  And I just think it's hilarious because it's just like he's not taking it too
• 44:34
  seriously for me. I guess maybe because I had the art background, I
• 44:37
  could maybe you know, know my way around, you know the art side
• 44:40
  of things, and you know, even shadows and crop in and you know
• 44:45
  that type of thing which helps you know if you want to do a bit
• 44:47
  of a better quality as far as how you present it to sell, the
• 44:51
  kind of idea, you know, and some stuff like you know, if
• 44:54
  you do it kind of seamless enough, people shouldn't actually know that you've put
• 45:00
  much effort into it. So for example, like I could use a Star
• 45:04
  Wars scene and I find a storm trooper, but he's in the wrong pose,
• 45:08
  and I need it to be a certain pose, like maybe doing the
• 45:12
  mo for one one funk, you know, dance. But if you crop
• 45:15
  it in a way to make it look seamless, they might just think,
• 45:21
  oh, he might have found that just on the net. But sometimes it
• 45:24
  takes it can take a fair bit of work. As I said about,
• 45:27
  it really depends on the style. But it's kind of a thing as well
• 45:32
  where sometimes you think a memes a bit man, but you're like, ah,
• 45:36
  it's it's harmless enough whatever, and you put out there and it just
• 45:38
  explodes. Oh yeah, like there was that one we put up. I
• 45:43
  love the nostalgia ones the most. I think nostalge ones that me and you
• 45:45
  did, one that put up about a month ago. I reckon where it
• 45:49
  was the CDs in the sleeves in the car style at the time that went
• 45:53
  mental it did. I've seen that reshare quite a bit and again yeah,
• 45:59
  like I've seen it on lots of different pages. But it's cool because I've
• 46:02
  similar to what you said, man, it's relatable. I've made some of
• 46:07
  those ones, like I've done one where you know, what was it?
• 46:10
  Oh, that's right, so Grandpa Simpson, you know there's one where he's
• 46:15
  seen So I pretended I was smoking a cigarette when it was cold outside,
• 46:19
  which is the style of the time, so you know as a kid it
• 46:21
  was cold and you blew out the air and those types of ones have you
• 46:24
  know, done really well. I've found ones where the crossover ones have done
• 46:30
  well, like I did this terminator one is dead or something yeah, yeah,
• 46:37
  one of those ones. But I also did the one where again at
• 46:42
  the time I thought it was funny, but I didn't realize it go the
• 46:45
  way it went was Sarah Connor's holding the fence and Homer's pouring milk in cereal,
• 46:52
  and then the next scene it's just that bloody nuclear wave and people just
• 46:57
  lost that shit. And and then as I kind of look back and I
• 47:00
  was like, it's pretty good. Like and there's times where I think I've
• 47:02
  actually got a home run and it doesn't get much traction. You just look.
• 47:07
  I think, for me, like the one thing I can say I
• 47:10
  feel like, you know, happy about is I think at least overall,
• 47:14
  I've got a decent strike rate. Like you know, as I said,
• 47:17
  man, I'm not sitting here with any kind of cockiness thinking yep, yep,
• 47:22
  I'm this, I'm that. Everything I do. I know I've made
• 47:25
  some absolute fucking stinkers. I know some have been terrible. I know some
• 47:30
  have been it's just but that's with anyone, man. But you have people
• 47:34
  who like go out of their way to wait for you to do that one.
• 47:37
  Yes, he's means of shit. Yep, they suck. I find
• 47:40
  that you don't really follow the trends, do you, because you know it's
• 47:44
  always there's a trend in the groups, and everyone just does the same fucking
• 47:46
  thing over and over again. I find yours are sounds like where did that
• 47:51
  come from? That's it? So I don't I have started a few without
• 47:58
  meaning to, like I might, I've started that's Sarah Connor one. After
• 48:01
  I made that one, I noticed for weeks there was that nuclear blast scene
• 48:07
  used over and over and it's happened dozens of times over the years. But
• 48:09
  nah, I don't tend to ever follow. I think for me, what
• 48:13
  I might do is, for example, I'll be flicking through my Instagram just
• 48:16
  looking at some of my older memes, and I don't know, something would
• 48:22
  just pop up, like I'll see, you know, a purple drapes me
• 48:24
  and I'm like, I haven't done purple drapes in a while. And then
• 48:30
  you've got the way my process works. I don't know, everyone's different.
• 48:32
  Is I've got to say I feel like, yeah, purple drapes would be
• 48:36
  a good one right now. Then I'll go through some of the other templates
• 48:39
  I've used and see whether there's anything that connects the dots. If it feels
• 48:45
  forced, I'll leave it if it doesn't make sense. But someday and you'll
• 48:49
  come up with an idea. Sometimes you're like, how the hell have I
• 48:52
  not thought of that before? And then I'll do my little search in the
• 48:54
  groups to see if anyone else has done it, just to make sure that
• 48:58
  doesn't you know, And sometimes you can't find everything. Worse person, Oh
• 49:02
  oh god, apparently yeah, you know, And that was always funny,
• 49:07
  like I used to have. I used to see. You know, a
• 49:09
  lot of people make memes I've made before, a lot, right, And
• 49:15
  that's fine. They're not following me. They don't know every group I'm in.
• 49:17
  I don't give a shit, you know. But the minute if I
• 49:21
  ever did a Harrison on someone else's meme, I stole it. I copied
• 49:24
  them. I'm like, oh my god, so you think that I found
• 49:29
  someone else's meme that was posted in this group. I remade it, spent
• 49:32
  the time posted in the very same group, and fingers crossed, no one
• 49:37
  else noticed. Why would someone do that? That makes no You should have
• 49:43
  stay on Instagram. You should just avoid Facebook like the plague and to stay
• 49:45
  in Instagram. So kind of to answer that man. I find that bought
• 49:52
  posting. Even though I'm not an adamin anymore. They're really good with how
• 49:55
  they generally run the page as far as key been at friendly no bullshit,
• 50:00
  no bullying. You know, if you report something, they'll put someone in
• 50:05
  line. So that is the only group. Even though I'm an admin on
• 50:08
  rock Bottom, I haven't posted there in many, many months, purely because
• 50:12
  of the same reason another admin left. It's just become just too political hate
• 50:17
  field. That's where we tried to always be. I was actually mentioned on
• 50:22
  a recent podcast. I know, mat I have nothing against rock Bottom,
• 50:25
  but I always saw like us as like black and white in the sense that
• 50:29
  everything that we wouldn't post would be on that page, you know what I
• 50:32
  mean, Like we would never do anything political. We didn't do the Tobias
• 50:35
  meanings of dropping the sea bomb and things like that. Look, we tried
• 50:37
  to be like the family friendly one because we're such We're so associated with the
• 50:42
  actual show and people who work on the show, and like Disney run sponsorships
• 50:46
  throughout podcasts and things like that, Like we need to sort of be the
• 50:49
  family friendly Simpsons community. Yeah, and good and rightly so bad and look
• 50:52
  don't get me wrong. Like, you know, I've been an admin for
• 50:55
  rock Bottom for like seven years and I've got you know, I'm very I'm
• 51:00
  good mates with you know, Matt, who you know runs the page.
• 51:06
  Of course, he's the one who asked me back in twenty sixteen to help
• 51:08
  be an admin, and I've been one since. But the reason I'm saying
• 51:12
  I don't post as much as it's not against it's just I just kind of
• 51:15
  I'm happy to do the admin staff keep an eye on things. But when
• 51:20
  it lost, you know, some of the heart of what Simpson's memes was
• 51:22
  about, it just was so I left, you know, compu Global because
• 51:28
  again the hate in that group and no one was man in it. No
• 51:31
  one was I wasn't an admin, so I would report something and people were
• 51:35
  just letting it go, which made me think that some of the other admins
• 51:37
  didn't like me. And I used to sit there going, man, like,
• 51:40
  I've literally had no interaction with you. I've never said a bad thing
• 51:45
  to you, but because of my memes, you hate me, Like that's
• 51:49
  insane. Like I used to still think like, but again I had this.
• 51:53
  Even my wife's like, just don't even overthink it. Just think of
• 51:58
  it as it's not your issue. You you've done nothing to start a rise,
• 52:01
  You've never been arrogant being like yep, I'm number one my memes.
• 52:06
  I've never seen anything even remotely close to that. I've never put anyone down,
• 52:12
  So what does it come down to. It's someone else's issue that they
• 52:15
  can just deal with. And instead of me reacting the way I used to
• 52:21
  do and sometimes getting worked up, especially if it's like the fifth person on
• 52:23
  the day, just to come out with some stupid bullshit for for absolutely no
• 52:28
  reason, and they making it personal, and it's just like yeah, and
• 52:31
  that's why I started blocking people. I was like, man, how fun
• 52:35
  is it blocking somebody though, like someone on one of their posts and just
• 52:38
  like ban and delete? What look it is? It is? It's a
• 52:44
  it's actually a nice feeling when you're arguing with someone and you're like, Okay,
• 52:47
  not this is back then, not any mightn't really I don't do it
• 52:52
  really anymore ever, But and you write something and I know I could be
• 52:57
  a smart ass back because I'm not really wanted to take shit. Like as
• 53:00
  much as I would never instigate it, I would still stand up for myself
• 53:04
  and the best feeling was writing something back and knowing that they're in the process
• 53:07
  of typing and block and then blocking them so when they actually hit posts,
• 53:14
  so like this page no longer exists and they can just stew on that for
• 53:17
  a while. But you definitely you gold home with the jewels at that point,
• 53:21
  aren't you. Yeah, that's it. Just laugh Yeah, absolutely,
• 53:25
  man. So yeah, So look, it's funny because I do wonder,
• 53:30
  like sometimes people must think, you know, they must wonder like, you
• 53:35
  know, I've had a lot of you know, the people who do love
• 53:37
  my stuff, so like, how do you feel about all that stuff?
• 53:39
  And I'm like, look, man, again, you know, I know,
• 53:42
  I know it's there. I'm very well aware. It doesn't really bother
• 53:45
  me anymore because I just kind of just do my own things, stay in
• 53:49
  my own lane. And that's why I only post in one Facebook group,
• 53:52
  I run my Instagram. How long will I do this, man, I
• 53:55
  don't know, but for now I still enjoy it because my wife remember even
• 54:00
  when we first met, Hell, you've been married for I've been married.
• 54:05
  We've been with her for eight years and we'd be married for five years.
• 54:07
  Were made for a decade. Awesome congrats. That's awesome. Man. So
• 54:12
  I think when we first met so twenty fifteen, she used to, you
• 54:16
  know, see me at the end of the night and she's like, do
• 54:20
  you feel like kind of like obligated to do this? Like do you feel
• 54:23
  like a pressure? And I said, no, no, absolutely not.
• 54:25
  I said. The minute that I feel obligated and forced to come up with
• 54:30
  ideas is the day I know I'm just gonna not do it anymore. But
• 54:35
  look like, you know, who doesn't love you know, making something that
• 54:38
  people will have a laugh at, and like, I mean, it is
• 54:40
  a bit of a you know, a bit of an adrenaline kind of you
• 54:45
  know shot, a bit of a serotonin hit, dopamine hit. You know,
• 54:49
  it's a good feeling. And I think, you know, when you
• 54:52
  can be creative and people relate to it and find it funny, that's awesome.
• 54:57
  I think that's why I keep doing it too, is you know,
• 55:00
  it's nice to it, you know, for one split second of someone's day,
• 55:05
  just like make them have a bit of a laugh, for a chuck,
• 55:07
  or just make them, you know, put a grin to someone's face.
• 55:09
  Man, It's it's as soppy or cliche as that sounds. Why else
• 55:13
  would you do it? For man, Like it's you've got a group of
• 55:16
  people who love the show. You're relating it to stuff that might you know,
• 55:22
  might be appealing on nostalgic. If you can put a bit of humor
• 55:24
  and a bit of that spin on it, I think that's like awesome.
• 55:28
  And when you start, like, you know, because like if you go
• 55:30
  through, for example, I've got like a favorites folder on my phone and
• 55:34
  it's just like all saved PNGs, everything you could imagine, you know,
• 55:38
  from the Simpsons, from video games. So it helps when you know you've
• 55:43
  you know, you've kind of got like your little tool kit of what to
• 55:45
  do. But you know, it's uh yeah, man, it's it's instill
• 55:50
  enjoyable. And for now, I keep you know, look, I used
• 55:53
  to at one point, I don't do it anymore. Was probably making sometimes
• 55:57
  even two or three a day. I can't do that anymore. No,
• 56:00
  listen, LEAs you're making money from doing it unless you're getting paid to Yeah,
• 56:04
  correct, that's this is pre kids. But since kids, you know,
• 56:07
  I'll generally do one to day, not always now, like there might
• 56:09
  be a day or two that you know, but I've got so much backlog
• 56:14
  of material that, let's say I haven't made a meme that day, I
• 56:17
  could quickly flick back to twenty twenty twenty nineteen, twenty twenty one, sure,
• 56:22
  and find one to put on Instagram and just be like, yeah,
• 56:24
  cool. You know how many have you gotten your backlog as in unposted,
• 56:30
  never be posted posted? Yeah? Hundreds, really hundreds hundreds, So you
• 56:35
  can just take a gap year. I could if I wanted to, Like,
• 56:38
  you know, and there's some that you know I've posted, but I
• 56:44
  posted so long ago that people i'd say ninety nine point nine percent would not
• 56:49
  have recall it, like if I may. I've had some that did exceptionally
• 56:53
  well in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. I'll give it five years. If
• 56:57
  it's more than five years, it's free range to go again, I reckon.
• 57:00
  Yeah, look, I've remade a few. I remember making one using
• 57:04
  the scene where it was Marge as a child on the bus and there's the
• 57:08
  girl you like the monkeys? That scene, I've used that template, and
• 57:12
  it was one where I think it was that's right. It was charmers with
• 57:16
  a little lunch box and then girls like ooh, you like principal skinner,
• 57:21
  you know, he never had Aurora borealis in his kitchen, and he goes
• 57:23
  he did, so he doesn't even steam. He doesn't even steam his own
• 57:28
  hands. And then it's like he's just the screen yea. And people freaking
• 57:30
  love that one. So I remade it because it looks so bootleg, the
• 57:34
  old version of the old font. And one person goes, I know this
• 57:38
  from somewhere. Have you made is this yours? And I'm like, yeah,
• 57:42
  it's mine. I go I remade it for about five years old,
• 57:45
  and they're like, I remember, but yeah, I just you know,
• 57:47
  but that literally there was one person out of the hundreds of comments. But
• 57:52
  it was just a bit of fun to remake it. Give it a give
• 57:54
  it a bit of a nice new polish. But yeah, was he still
• 57:58
  having fun doing it. That's all. That's like with the podcast. I
• 58:00
  said to my wife, like, I took a pun to myself last year
• 58:04
  last August, I was like, I'm doing an office job. I'm not
• 58:06
  enjoying this. I don't feel like I'm being you know, looked after and
• 58:09
  appreciated. Fuck it, I own as much doing my podcast from like patrons
• 58:14
  and things like that is what I do with this job. I'm just going
• 58:15
  to quit my job, my wife and then go back to work full time.
• 58:17
  Because she was climbing the wall. She wanted to get out of the
• 58:20
  house. She had four years off of the kids, and it's just wor
• 58:22
  there for the better man. And but I said to her, like,
• 58:24
  the second this feels like work, I probably don't want to do it anymore.
• 58:29
  But then again, getting paid to talk about the Simpsons is pretty fun.
• 58:31
  Like, I know how fucking lucky I am. You know, I
• 58:35
  was gonna say, dude, look, I'll be I'll be the first.
• 58:37
  I'm envious man, because what you do and I know how successful you guys
• 58:43
  are is fucking amazing. I tried my you know, I tried a few
• 58:50
  years back at Patreon, right. I gave it a shot. And again,
• 58:53
  it's not about trying to monitor. Look, man, if why the
• 58:59
  hell wouldn't you try if you could try and monetize something that you enjoy.
• 59:04
  It wasn't me, you know, I never got into it for that reason.
• 59:07
  But as the whole fifty dollars bullshit thing was that I was actually getting
• 59:10
  paid at a period, and quite a good amount at that stage to make
• 59:14
  memes, and then I realized, like, you can't really do it with
• 59:19
  the Simpsons as far as memes, because why would someone. Yeah, I
• 59:23
  had a few patrons, of course, but nothing substantial. And I get
• 59:27
  it because I look back at I'm thinking, well, once you make the
• 59:30
  meme, it's kind of there. What more can you do with it?
• 59:34
  You laugh at it for two seconds, you might share it with a few
• 59:36
  mates, right, there's no other value. So what's someone get a gain
• 59:40
  by being a patreon when they get to see your means on your Instagram or
• 59:45
  on Facebook. So for you, what you do and how many Patreons you've
• 59:50
  got is insane, man, Because I've had so many people like say,
• 59:53
  oh, you know, dude, surely you're getting paid for this. I'm
• 59:55
  like, nah, man, I'm not. I've never been paid or an
• 1:00:00
  actual Simpsons meme on its own, because at the end of the day,
• 1:00:04
  I am using a copyrighted intellectual property that I tried a T shirt or too.
• 1:00:10
  I got them taken down straight away. So I just thought, look,
• 1:00:15
  I do it because I enjoy it, but I like to get paid
• 1:00:16
  for it. Absolutely, it'd be amazing. It's like you, man,
• 1:00:21
  you get to talk about Simpsons and get that. Like for me, that
• 1:00:25
  would be the dream, Like I would love that. But like you know,
• 1:00:30
  as I said, my job, I come from a psychology, social
• 1:00:32
  work, counseling background. I got. My job has got nothing to do
• 1:00:37
  with my artistic side, which in some ways kind of is a bit depressing
• 1:00:40
  because I kind of look back and think maybe I should have pursued that more.
• 1:00:45
  And just seeing like how much success I've had with the memes as far
• 1:00:49
  as at least growing an audience and people enjoying it, that's been cool.
• 1:00:53
  But the fact that you can, you know, do a podcast, and
• 1:00:58
  I've thought about other avenues, like, you know, do I start a
• 1:01:00
  YouTube channel? I know I can do a lot of different voices. I've
• 1:01:05
  actually had an idea for a channel which I know has been done to an
• 1:01:08
  extent where you basically have a movie scene and you overdub it with a different
• 1:01:14
  voice and you try and replicate what their mouth is saying to actually, you
• 1:01:19
  know, whatever it comes out with. It could be nonsensical, it could
• 1:01:22
  be Yeah. So there's one channel in particular that do it bad lip reading
• 1:01:27
  and this guy is a bloody music producer man. He does this as a
• 1:01:31
  side gig. He's got like thirteen million subscribers. He's making a killing that
• 1:01:36
  Yoda one he did that exploded. Yeah, and I've done one. I
• 1:01:40
  haven't put it out. You're one of the first people to know this.
• 1:01:45
  I've made one for Jurassic Park. I've overdubbed all the voices. It only
• 1:01:49
  goes for about three or four minutes. But I started like, oh,
• 1:01:52
  you know, there was so much work that went into it beyond what I
• 1:01:55
  thought. And I was like, oh, do I go down this path?
• 1:01:59
  But try it? Why not? Look, I might, you know,
• 1:02:02
  I've got to. I've literally got to just do a few things to
• 1:02:06
  tweak it. My brother's the one who's been really good at helping me out
• 1:02:09
  with like the kind of tech side. I wish it was just like in
• 1:02:14
  terms of the scripting of watching the movie that the scene, getting the script
• 1:02:17
  down, doing the actual recording, that's the easy part. It's the kind
• 1:02:21
  of mixing editing part that was like the pain and the ass and got to
• 1:02:24
  be careful with songs that you can't use and all that, you know,
• 1:02:28
  copyright strike crap. But hey man, i'd love to, you know,
• 1:02:31
  I'd love to quit a day job. To be able to do something like
• 1:02:36
  that, but who knows. Man, Like, one day maybe an idea
• 1:02:39
  would just come to me. But one day we're just likecky that we won
• 1:02:43
  the first Simpsons podcasts because when we did it, there was only one other
• 1:02:45
  one the people we were the second Simpsons podcast. Now it feels like there's
• 1:02:49
  two hundred. I bet, I bet it's saturated now. But we just
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  we just got in there early, you know, built that fan base up,
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  and just we've got The thing is, people start a Simpsons podcast now,
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  a lot of them did it over covid. They got boreds, like,
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  what can we do? There's Simpsons. You know, there's like one
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  hundred new ones started over covid. But it's like we already had like twelve
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  thirteen seasons of the show reviewed in our library before these ones even started.
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  So we've already got that back cat looks. When people find us, they're
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  like, shit, there's five hundred hours of reviews here for us to listen
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  to. I'm just gonna go to this. There's someone who's just yeah,
• 1:03:20
  absolutely, man, that's crazy, like and you know that's I remember reading
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  something. I think you made a post at one point saying that, yeah,
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  you'd chucked in the job and you're doing this. Yeah it's on that
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  page. Yeah, I'm just like, fuck it, I'm quitting probably where
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  I saw it. Yeah, and I put the shot of home of burning
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  the bridge. Mate live in the dream. Many live in the dream,
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  like as in, there's not many people who can legitimately say they love what
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  they do. Like as I said, let's say if someone turned around and
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  said, Andy, I will match your current salary to just keep doing what
• 1:03:55
  you're doing and the memes, but do it for us who like, say
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  know, you'd say you wouldn't say, you'd say yes and a heartbeat.
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  I was just lucky to be in a position where my wife would go back
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  to work and get paid enough to sort of balance it out. And then
• 1:04:08
  it just because I was doing it full time, I could put more content
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  out, which means we've got more followers, and it just ended up being
• 1:04:13
  like the best thing ever. But man, it was scary at the time
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  though. I was like, you know what, I'd rather I'd rather try
• 1:04:18
  this for two three years, fail at it, then go oh, I
• 1:04:21
  mean I wish I had a tried I think for you as well. Man,
• 1:04:26
  the beauty of it is that you could have initially started it whilst maintaining
• 1:04:31
  your job. We did. I was doing it for seven years. Yea.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, and as you start to see things kind of pick up,
• 1:04:39
  you can make that decisive decision like, hey, I don't think I need
• 1:04:43
  the job anymore. It might still be a little bit of a risk at
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  the time, but I'm sure you get to a point and then it's just
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  and then you like look back and go, hey man, this is this
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  is freaking awesome. I was very, very lucky. Yeah. So I'm
• 1:04:56
  getting to wind up my wife's we've been wrapped this up very soon. I
• 1:04:59
  think the kids. I think the kids have been a bit of a struggle
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  of bedtime. So I won't keep it. I won't keep you, man.
• 1:05:03
  But I've got a question for you though. I've just send it to
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  you about this this marathon. What I'd like to do I'd like to ask
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  people. So it's nineteen ninety eight, So we've got the first nine seasons
• 1:05:12
  out right Channel ten. They've come to you, Andy, we need a
• 1:05:15
  five episodes Simpsons marathons for Friday Night. What episodes be picking? So this
• 1:05:19
  is this look given when you ask me the question earlier. I've had a
• 1:05:25
  bit of a think, so this could be interchangeable, but I've actually jotted
• 1:05:29
  some down, so I guess whether you want to call this an episode or
• 1:05:32
  not. But the twenty two short films about that's my favorite episode of all
• 1:05:35
  time. I always say that perfectly encapsulates everything about Springfield. It's just for
• 1:05:40
  me, those little bite sized stories. Yeah, and even from a meme
• 1:05:46
  perspective, how memorable that episode is next level? So absolutely that. Okay,
• 1:05:53
  so the City of New York and Homer, that one resonates with me.
• 1:05:58
  I do enjoy. There's a certain parts and that this I even just
• 1:06:01
  the very last scene of when Lisa is like can we come back? And
• 1:06:08
  and this shits copping in. It's just something that you also just you remember
• 1:06:11
  watching at the time as well. They always had that connection as well.
• 1:06:14
  Yeah. So another one would be Treehouse of Horror five. Five is always
• 1:06:17
  the favorite, isn't it? Look it is? But for me, like
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  there's it's justly you know, rational, like I can rationalize why without you
• 1:06:27
  know, having much disagreement. I'd say, just you know that that episode
• 1:06:30
  as far as me wise, as well, for me, one that I
• 1:06:35
  you know, I've always loved I love Homer Goes to College. I absolutely
• 1:06:40
  love that episode and some like I guess special mentions as well, like Brother
• 1:06:45
  from the Same Planet, Homer bad Man, Marge being not Proud. I
• 1:06:49
  think that there's everyone ending besides the Maggie makes three ending that's going to make
• 1:06:54
  me cry. It's Marge be not Proud. Yeah, that for me just
• 1:06:58
  hits different notes as far as humor, and you know, it's just yeah,
• 1:07:01
  it's so. I mean that list could, I'm sure for yourself,
• 1:07:06
  could be interchangeable on any given day, but just off the top of my
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  head, those were, you know, some that I'd be like, yep,
• 1:07:14
  you know, there's there's there's some sentimental stuff in there, there's some
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  absolutely hilarious and kind of like you said with the twenty two short films,
• 1:07:19
  like everything in between. So I think that kind of captures and I think
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  that that pretty much has an episode from I think season four, six,
• 1:07:29
  nine seven. So it come with the good ones. Yeah, pretty good
• 1:07:32
  mix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. All right,
• 1:07:34
  Andy Kate, thank you so much for joining us here. It's been a
• 1:07:36
  pleasure to finally catch up with you. Yeah, man, thank you so
• 1:07:40
  much for having me Like, it's good, it's good just to you know,
• 1:07:43
  have a chat. Kind of Well, it's good because I've just started
• 1:07:45
  this second because we did two podcasts a week. Now we do the reviews
• 1:07:48
  and it's like season eighteen. I'm like, yeah, people aren't as interested
• 1:07:50
  in reviews anymore. And the reason I started this show was to just chat
• 1:07:55
  with people about the Simpsons. And like I've seen like I've seen your name
• 1:07:58
  and I've shared your memes for seventy years. I'm like, fuck, just
• 1:08:00
  talk to the guy. I appreciate it, man, Like I you know,
• 1:08:03
  I you know, I'm always I think I'm a very you know,
• 1:08:09
  pretty chilled guy man who's always happy to chat. And anyone who actually knows
• 1:08:13
  me knows that. Like, man, I'm not anyone who's ever started you
• 1:08:16
  know, shit, I'm not that kind of guy. I've copped a lot
• 1:08:19
  of shit. But man, I think, as as I said, it's
• 1:08:23
  just kind of sometimes is the nature of having maybe memes that are popular.
• 1:08:28
  I guess, like, you know, you can't please everyone. Some people
• 1:08:30
  will just get pissed off, and some people will like the hate. But
• 1:08:34
  as I said, man, at the end of the day, the positive
• 1:08:39
  stuff has always outweighed the negative and for that reason alone. Man, you
• 1:08:44
  know, I love doing what I do. It's it's just a fun hobby
• 1:08:46
  on the side, man. And I actually was. I actually remember when
• 1:08:50
  you reached out. I was like thinking to myself. I remember at one
• 1:08:55
  point a year or two ago, thinking, man, I'd love to even
• 1:08:57
  reach out to you guys and be like, hey, would you want to
• 1:08:59
  have a chat? One day I was like, nah, no, I
• 1:09:00
  can't ask them that that's something that they've but it's been a pleasure, man.
• 1:09:04
  I appreciate the offer. And it's good to meet you man and have
• 1:09:09
  a good chat. And let's plug that Instagram page one more time before you
• 1:09:11
  go. I have Simpsons meme factory. Yep. I probably, in hindsight
• 1:09:16
  should have got a bit more creative name. But change the name? Was
• 1:09:19
  it is that too late? Now? You keep it? I reckon I
• 1:09:21
  can. I'm pretty sure I could change it, but I think I do
• 1:09:24
  think it fits though, right Simpsons mean factory. Well, look, I
• 1:09:29
  mean I make them enough to feel like it's a factory. You know that
• 1:09:32
  it's it's you know. And I wasn't sure at the time whether certain names
• 1:09:38
  would be like, you know, a strike because you use them, But
• 1:09:42
  nah, I lostarted looking at other pages and the hundreds have used the Simpsons
• 1:09:45
  like I literally didn't give it much thought and I just thought, I make
• 1:09:49
  so many bloody damn memes, I might as well just put them on my
• 1:09:53
  Instagram. And yeah, it's kind of just you know what's growing to like
• 1:09:56
  nearly seventy thousand followers now just about yes, it's going really well. Make
• 1:10:00
  sure guys that you follow that page for your Simpsons meme Shenanigan's Yeah, once
• 1:10:02
  again, it's been an absolute pleasure and all the best with your Symptons Meme
• 1:10:05
  Factory. Thanks brother, I'm sure you'll see some more bangers coming up.