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Jazz Season Opener REACTION! Knecht or Clayton? Utah vs Houston Preview & MLB World Series Picks · DnA Sports Recap

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SPEAKER_00: So the Utah Jazz lose the season opener to the Memphis Grizzlies, uh, which is definitely an interesting way to start the season, AJ.
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SPEAKER_00: They lose 123 to 103.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, some keynotes there that we want to talk about there is Larry Marketin.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh did not lead the team in points.
2:40
SPEAKER_00: That was actually Keontae George.
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SPEAKER_00: He led the team with 22 points.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, he also threw in five rebounds, three assists, three blocks.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, sorry, not three blocks.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: That's actually Ace Bailey.
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SPEAKER_00: Got three blocks, by the way.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, very impressive.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can't just drag that over there.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, AJ just messing with stuff on the on the back end here.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not trying to do anything too specific here.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, so the Utah Jazz uh did have a few players in in double digits there, but yeah, primarily our leads leading scorer was eight was Keontae George with 22 points, did have a negative eight on the plus-minus.
3:16
SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson uh chipped in on his season career debut of nine points, he had a negative 16.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: Jackson Hayes uh was a negative 27, which was really surprising because he had six blocks, AJ.
3:29
SPEAKER_00: Six blocks, which is insane.
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SPEAKER_02: Which is very impressive.
3:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, you've got to love that from Jackson Hayes right out the gate.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
3:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's that's a great number.
3:39
SPEAKER_02: I was really intrigued by the opening lineup.
3:41
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we had quite a few conversations about um who the openers were gonna be going in.
3:46
SPEAKER_02: We talked about, you know, is Ace gonna get the start?
3:49
SPEAKER_02: Do we like him now that uh Nurkic is out?
3:52
SPEAKER_02: And the opening lineup ended up being Hayes, Lari, Triple J, DP, and Keontae George.
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SPEAKER_02: So I think that does kind of confirm our suspicions that Nurkic would have been in the starting lineup, which moves Ace to first person off the bench.
4:04
SPEAKER_02: And guess who was the first person off the bench?
4:06
SPEAKER_00: Ace Bailey.
4:06
SPEAKER_02: It was Ace Bailey, absolutely.
4:08
SPEAKER_02: So um interesting enough, it was Triple J that he subbed for in this game.
4:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I left Hayes in.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: I think that's because of early foul trouble, though.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: I think he already got whistled two on him, so he had to come out, if I remember correctly.
4:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh Jared Jackson Jr.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: did end up having six fouls.
4:24
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, he was probably right there in foul trouble early.
4:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:28
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so the the obviously the the story of this show, uh, sorry, the story of this game is actually gonna be Ty Jerome, uh, the point guard for the Utah for the Memphis Grizzlies.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: Surprise, surprise, guys, a uh guard had a career night against the Utah Jazz and scored more than 35 points.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: Where have you heard this story before?
4:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh just every Utah Jazz game ever.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: The Utah Jazz are not capable of uh executing any perimeter defense to stop a guy like this from shooting 50% from three.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, what is it?
4:58
SPEAKER_00: He was like, what was it five of ten from three?
5:01
SPEAKER_00: That's just insane, right?
5:03
SPEAKER_00: He's just lining it up, getting whatever he wants.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, the guy was uh what is uh he was a plus 22 on the plus minus, which is insane.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Basically just kind of had his way with the Jazz all game long.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh that he's really the kind of story there.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: The Jazz did a great job of keeping Zach Edy at bay.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh he finished the game with 19 points, but still it was uh kind of an inefficient game for him, uh, only shooting 60% because he only had you know six uh field goal attempts.
5:28
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, five field goal attempts at 60%.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Um he also got uh he also made uh I think how many foul shots did he make?
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he doesn't have any foul shots attempts.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: No, so yeah, he had he didn't have 19 points, he had a 19 point plus minus.
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SPEAKER_00: He had six points.
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SPEAKER_00: So yeah, six points on the on uh 19 on the plus minus.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: So Jazz did a great job of keeping him at bay.
5:49
SPEAKER_00: A few things, AJ, that I wanted to touch on that I thought that were going to be important for this one uh when it comes to the Utah Jazz is defense.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: Defense is a concern for these guys, man, especially in the second quarter, and then pretty much for the rest of the game, AJ.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Jazz came out hot.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: They defended the ball well, they did team defense, they were talking, they were shouting out assignments, pointing people in the right direction.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Then from there, man, that it just got they just got beat after that into the second quarter.
6:15
SPEAKER_00: They got beat a lot on transition, and I do mean a lot.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: There was a bunch of missed assignments, a lot of what Coach Sloan used to call help the helper defense.
6:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, that just wasn't there.
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SPEAKER_00: Jackson Hayes needs to back up triple J when he goes to disrupt a shot when it's not his man.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: We need to have the defense switch and protect him from some of the weak side defensive, weak side defensive rebounding, which we just did not see in this game.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it's a shame that we're pointing all that out because again, this team had eight blocks in the first half, AJ.
6:44
SPEAKER_00: They finished the game with 13 blocks, this team did.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: Right.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: And again, in the first half, Hayes had four and Ace had three.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: I think they ended up having more than that, both of them, together by the end of the game.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: That to me, you know, when you have that good of, you know, attacking the ball handler and knocking the ball out of their hands and uh at a point where they're gonna try and score the ball, you'll love it, you know.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, there's a lot of sloppiness in revolt for that defense and a lot of just not getting back on defense, a lot of transition buckets.
7:13
SPEAKER_02: I think the stat that's standing out to me most is the Jazz have 44 total rebounds and the Grizzlies have 63.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, rebounds are my my third concern I have listed down here.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know how I was gonna end the game.
7:24
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, but that's something we talked about all season long, all off season long, is where's the rebounds gonna come from this team?
7:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I mean just you know, like I was making my notes for the first and second quarters, and I was like, we are getting killed on rebounds, you know, like it just felt like you'd see somebody pop out and grab one and like, okay, well, we got the ball.
7:40
SPEAKER_02: Like maybe we're not doing as bad as we think, but I mean to be out rebounded by 19 to finish that game is just insanity.
7:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Like that that's you're giving them that many more positions.
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SPEAKER_02: That no, no wonder you lost by 20.
7:51
SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_02: Like that's only them scoring on every other possession.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's it's really kind of it's unfortunate.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: And if we look at the the other thing I want to touch on was turnovers.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Utah Jazz had 18 turnovers to Memphis 13.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, five on the turnover margin is never good either.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: No, and a lot of those were unforced, just sloppy play, you know, it didn't look great.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, lots of five of those belong to triple J, though.
8:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, and and he did drive in and see triple teams and double teams quite a bit.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: They were they were making it a a point to make sure that triple J wasn't going to beat them individually.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I think some of that's you know, him returning to Memphis for his for his first season opener, not being a grizzly.
8:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but but you've got to find the open man in that season.
8:35
SPEAKER_02: Gotta find the open man.
8:36
SPEAKER_02: Because if you've got two people on you, somebody's open.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: If you're taking on triple team, you've got to be able to do something with Rock, dude.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Laurie Marketing out there, we're looking at 13 attempts for the game for him.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:47
SPEAKER_00: One for seven from three, which is not great.
8:50
SPEAKER_00: But you know, I've never been a big fan of Laurie Marketing starting from outside in.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: I want him to start from inside out.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
8:56
SPEAKER_00: You know, get some easy transition buckets and then get those, you know, pop uh pick and pop type shops, you know.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: So that's what you want to see from him.
9:03
SPEAKER_00: Again, turnovers not great, defense not great, and you know, turnovers, rebounding, all problems.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: So everything that we are worried about with this team, you correct congratulations, Jasmine.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: You're absolutely right on that.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: Those are still concerns.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so definitely very, very concerning.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, what do you like about this game though?
9:23
SPEAKER_00: What are some positives we want to have uh folks think focus on?
9:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh I love I love Darren Peterson.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know he didn't have a great night, you know, only scoring nine points, you're you're not gonna think anything's gonna stand out specifically, but um I thought he had some nice touch um inside, driving the ball, getting to shots that he's comfortable taking in that mid-range where it's really tough to defend unless you get a you know defend uh a big to come out to you.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Um I thought he had some really nice just push shots that that got him comfortable and going.
9:53
SPEAKER_02: I liked his defensive effort.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: I think my favorite thing in this game so far was probably Keontae George's defensive defensive effort.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: Love the way Keontae played.
10:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh but he I mean he gave up some shots like that that went down when he was guarding, but dude, they were tough, contested shots.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: Keonta played, he stayed right on his guy, he had his hands up, he wasn't jumping out of the arena trying to block shots or anything.
10:16
SPEAKER_02: He just played good, hard, stayed in contact defense.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: Loved Keontae George's defensive effort the whole night.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like you were saying for uh Darren Peterson, he did put up uh four rebounds as well as three assists on the on the night there.
10:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh was an incredibly efficient, uh, did have a negative 16 plus minus.
10:34
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, the one player that I want to highlight that I think that jumps out the most for me on this game for the Jazz, uh for how well they played is going to be Ace Bailey, man.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: This dude has proven that he's the most athletic player on the court when he's out there.
10:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: Like he his able to recover for that second block uh in that transition bucket that the Grizzlies looked like a Kimmy.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: That was all of Gordon Hayward's recovery blocks that he used to do back in the day.
10:59
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: You know, this one was just, you know, he his ability to kind of get back on defense and also raise up without fouling, I think, is again just goes to his athletism, goes to his length, really speaks volumes when it comes to that.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: You love to see it, man.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: I think that for me, he was kind of the highlight for the Utah Jazz in this game.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I I agree, and I think you probably needed Ace out there for more than the 24 minutes that he actually played.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you're looking and you see Keontae at 28, Darren Peterson at 31, like why is Ace not out on the floor a little bit longer?
11:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, just just trying to get some of that exposure.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: I I don't love when you see, you know, Bryce Sensiball's got 13 minutes, and like I feel like those minutes could have more effectively gone to Ace, kept him out there.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I understand he was out there with you know sense of all sometime.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: Um kind of looking at it.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: You wait until the end of the game to bring Josh Kogi out, which if you're getting killed by a guard and you just brought in two defensive stoppers and Josh Okogi and Josh Green, like why don't you put somebody out there sooner than the fourth quarter to try to stop either one of them, like to just try to lock this guy down?
12:01
SPEAKER_00: I understand why in the second quarter, seeing if they're gonna make an adjustment, like seeing if your main guy's like, okay, are you gonna step up on defense or is this guy just gonna keep torching you?
12:08
SPEAKER_00: And then after the second quarter, then you absolutely switch it up and then try and find somebody.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, he's just gonna keep torching us.
12:14
SPEAKER_02: So let's do something.
12:15
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
12:16
SPEAKER_00: Who wants the who wants minutes on the floor?
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Because who wants to play defense?
12:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: I just there's a lot there, there's a lot there to be um questioned about some of the decisions Will Hardy made uh when it comes to his rotations, and honestly, some of it could just be like he mentioned in his in his um interviews there that he's gonna be spending the first 15 to 20 games kind of experimenting, is the word he used to try and find out who's gonna want who's gonna want to play, who's gonna want to win, that kind of thing.
12:44
SPEAKER_00: So we'll see uh if this improves at all.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, left a lot to be desired on this game, to be honest with you.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, and I'm I'm kind of feeling the same way.
12:52
SPEAKER_02: Uh I I think that I I had much higher hopes.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: The Jazz look good in the first quarter.
12:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it was a ball game.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: They came out, they they were running the floor, they were making shots.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: Nine point leaders.
13:01
SPEAKER_02: You know, they get a little bit cold defense, a little bit cold offensively in the second quarter.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: The the defense kind of starts falling off.
13:08
SPEAKER_02: I think from the first to the second quarter transition, they go on like a Memphis goes on like a 13-point run.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: And and you're just like, oh no, like where what is what is happening right now.
13:17
SPEAKER_02: But they made some tough shots in that stretch, right?
13:19
SPEAKER_02: Like some of those was Keontae, like I said, playing good defense.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: I we saw some things that give us hope, but you you've gotta we've gotta be able to dial it in, right?
13:29
SPEAKER_02: You you can't play um, you know, 13, 12 of your 15 players and expect to win.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: Uh you know, not not all season.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: No.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: Like you've got it, you've got to dial that down to 10 guys, eight guys, you know, like the beginning of the second quarter.
13:43
SPEAKER_00: You started to see a lot of these guys do settle for the quick three-pointer or the quick jump shot early in the shot clock.
13:50
SPEAKER_00: Because I think they got kind of comfortable with their nine-point lead, thinking their shots are gonna fall.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: They stopped really kind of getting after it and kind of just trying to go trade buckets in the second quarter.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know how or when Coach Schneider, um Coach Schneider.
14:08
SPEAKER_02: Wow, that was a blast from the past.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: Coach Schneider, even.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: When Coach Hardy had uh hit his moment where he decided to tell tell them, hey, it's time to buckle down.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: But for me, it kind of felt like it came a little bit too late because these guys obviously just right after the first quarter, things started to fall uncompetitively pretty quickly.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: Rush shots, sloppy turnovers, bad defense, bad transition defense, no helping the helper.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: It all just kind of fell apart there in the second quarter.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: And I like the Jazz's fight.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: I like that they they got it back down to 16 at one point, you know, but then again, just fell right back.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: So not the best look, not the best way we wanted the season to start for sure.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: You know the best defensive lineup that I thought was out there?
14:45
SPEAKER_02: Lari, triple J DP, Svee and Ace was the best defensive five that were out there.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I can see that.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: Like when those guys were out there, the Jazz actually looked okay on defense.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: They were actually bringing that lead back, uh, bringing the the deficit back down.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: Like they actually looked okay when those five guys were out there.
15:02
SPEAKER_02: So kind of uh kind of interesting to see, right?
15:06
SPEAKER_02: When you pull those numbers, how those guys actually did on the plus-minus and if uh if they were positive in those minutes, because I mean you know Coach Hardy's gonna look at some of these lineups and see who is helping who and if if that's actually gonna turn out to be something.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: We needed to see more moves from uh Josh Wakie though.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: Less for Bison and Spa, more for Josh Okogi.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: Kyle Philipowski, you know, maybe seeing him a little bit earlier would have been nice.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I don't know.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: A lot to be desired.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: We'll see what happens there.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
15:35
SPEAKER_00: Let's hit some of these comments here.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: We got Karen for Darren, Boozer uh with a top plus minus.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: We drafted the wrong horse.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, we didn't.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: No, we did not.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: So if we look at Cam Boozer, yeah, he had a 32 plus minus, dude.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, on seven points.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, seven points.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: It just tells you how bad the jazz actually were.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Five assists, 11 rebounds.
15:59
SPEAKER_00: So and his uh seven points were well well, not efficient.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: He had he had a 13% efficiency uh field goal percentage.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so they did a great job.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: He missed a lot of shots, did a great job on that, uh keeping him.
16:10
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, makes you wonder about the plus-minus and how much we need to be really be focusing on that as a stat.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: Can you really have that big of an impact on a team when you're only scoring seven points?
16:19
SPEAKER_00: Like you have the game's biggest plus-minus.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got a comment here from Mammoth Undertaking.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: Still love that name, man.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Journeyman playing against the Utah Jazz where dreams come true.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, couldn't be stated better on that one.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: And obviously, I love this one.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Adam King, uh four four uh six, six, four, five.
16:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, do the Jazz now, do the Jazz know it's okay to win games now.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't think they do.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we should have a conversation.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: It sure didn't seem like it in this one.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: Maybe for the first quarter, they were like, oh, we can go out and win.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: And then they're like, uh, do we really want to?
16:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, we want to throw a few of these that way we could still be in the lottery, you know, if we're in the play-in.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: I can't.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to see it.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to see it.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: I'd I'll take these losses if they're trying, though, you know, versus knowing they're not trying to win.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's kind of the question we got to ask ourselves.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that suck that we got, you know, are you know what's handed to us that badly in the first game?
17:18
SPEAKER_00: But would you rather have this kind of loss or the losses we had last season?
17:21
SPEAKER_00: I'll take this loss all day.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, just just knowing that there's going to be some trial and error in some of these games.
17:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm okay with that.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: Just don't be the one who comes out here in the post-game conference and say it's a long season.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of uh season left in front of us.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: As soon as you start saying those things, um, you know you're cooked.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: So let's uh hope that we don't hear that in any of the post-game conference uh conversations from the team here.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: Got another comment from Pacific Northwest Ute.
17:49
SPEAKER_00: As V with the Jazz is best plus minus, more time would have been would have brought a better overall shooting and more defense.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: Maybe Bailey plus Sphi uh is a good combo.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of huge.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: That was in the part of the lineup that you mentioned, right?
18:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
18:03
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I think best defensive minutes and and realistically, you you've got a ton of shooting out there with with those five guys, Lori, triple J, DP, Sve, and Ace.
18:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's a lot of shooting, you know, solid defensive players.
18:14
SPEAKER_02: You've got you know, vet and vet and spee and Laurie and triple J to kind of be out there and lead DP and Ace.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: Like it actually is a solid lineup.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm I'm curious to see.
18:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'll I'll pull the advanced stats after the game and you know we'll see what they look like.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, DP, I think we're gonna see a lot better defensive effort once he gets settled in.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: This is his first real NBA game.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: His defensive assignments, different lineups.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: You saw the effort there on defense from DP.
18:40
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: Which is all we can really ask for at this point, you know.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: So we're we're happy about that.
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below, folks, when it comes to the Jazz's season opener.
18:50
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, was this one a stinker for you?
18:55
SPEAKER_00: Did you have any positive takeaways from this one at all?
18:58
SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you because you know, that's what this whole channel's about.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: So let us know.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, so on another note here, and it's on a little bit more of a happier, you know, note here where we talk a little bit about some of the stuff that was in the news lately.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, are you queuing this one up or am I?
19:13
SPEAKER_00: You are.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: Are you sure?
19:15
SPEAKER_02: No.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm not at all.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's great.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes, I actually am.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, so you're like I just make a guess and just roll with it.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Just make a decision.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I know my notes don't have me queuing it up, so I hope not.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: You're like, I'll just committing and going for it.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so it's been in the news.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, in the you know, when everybody started cutting, by the way.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: Sorry about your guy, uh Blake.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: I know, dude.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: I liked Blake Henson so much.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: I can't believe they cut him.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks for all the vibes, dude.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: We loved it.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, not only uh was our our guy Blake let go, um, we also have others that we thought were interesting.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: One was Dalton Connect, and the other one was Walter Clayton Jr.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: were both released from their teams.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: How bad of a time you saw that Walter Clayton Jr.'s already signed a two-way contract, right?
20:13
SPEAKER_00: When did this happen?
20:14
SPEAKER_02: Today.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he signed a two-way contract today.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: But we can still carry on.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: Right?
20:21
SPEAKER_02: But I just wanted to preface that so neither one of us sounded like we weren't caught up on jazz news.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, technically not jazz news.
20:29
SPEAKER_02: NBA news.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: NBA news.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: So article news.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, you know what's really funny is I could go through this whole thing and it actually will make perfect sense.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: So that works out.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, so basically we wanted to play a little fun game here on this one, and this one was going to be um Dalton or Walter, right?
20:46
SPEAKER_00: Who would you rather take for that last opening roster spot for uh the Utah Jazz?
20:51
SPEAKER_00: So that's basically what we're gonna jump on here.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, AJ, why don't you go ahead and make your pitch for why the Jazz should sign Dalton Connect?
21:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think I just really like Dalton Connect.
21:02
SPEAKER_02: I like, I mean, I he's got good size of 6'6.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, he's played in 132 career games, shot 36.8% from three.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, his defensive rating as a rookie was his best defensive rating, which was 117.9.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: That crept up a little bit last year to 118.7.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: Um but his offensive rating was only 107.5, which means he is a negative net player.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, he is a little bit on the old side for a prospect, being he is 25 years old and only in his third year.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: But um I I think he's a great he has the ability to be a great shooter.
21:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, he's got good uh NBA IQ, he he does good things on the floor, and he's a guy you can kind of send out there and not have to worry about whether he's gonna be in the right place at the right time necessarily, because he does have enough experience, right?
21:47
SPEAKER_02: At 25 years old, you know, he played his whole year, you know, he played his last couple years at Tennessee.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: Um had had some great seasons.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: I believe he was the SEC player of the year of one of those years.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: Um He's just a guy that it's kind of un you know, he his one problem was when he came out of Tennessee, he was kind of, you know, we we did a draft review on him.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh my only concern was where we saw him was probably his ceiling because he is 23 years old, right?
22:15
SPEAKER_02: He's he's old coming out of high school relatively for a lot of the guys, right?
22:19
SPEAKER_02: You you got DP who's like 19.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: Um so but he's been really good at finding ways to score.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean he's been he's been effective in his time, you know, in the NBA.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: Um I guess having some, you know, but the Jazz having some potential defensive problems, always good to add a 6'6 guard that can, you know, pretty athletic, good IQ, um can go out there and and you know potentially be another option for this team.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I I like the size, uh, his defensive capabilities leaves a lot to be desired with his size.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: But um his his lateral movement is not great, you know, and he he's a great shooting, he's a great shooter.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Right?
23:01
SPEAKER_00: By far uh uh the best shooter.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: And a good IQ guy too, because he makes the right pass.
23:06
SPEAKER_02: Like he does see the floor pretty well, like he's a good basketball player.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: He's just not a great defender.
23:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I th I'm I'm right there with you.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: And obviously, Walter Clayton Jr.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: uh he already did sign a two-way contract, but you know, I did these notes and you guys are gonna suffer through this, all right?
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Um so you gotta ask yourself, man, okay, um, do we have here's the question you gotta ask yourself when it comes to Utah Jazz.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: Do we have the backup point guard on this team for when we're competing for a championship?
23:37
SPEAKER_00: If Isaiah Collier is that dude, then great.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: But if he's not, then what?
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Well, Walter Clayton Jr.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: would be a great option to develop in that.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: In the 24 months, 24 games that he played for Memphis, he averaged 9.7 points, 5.7 persists per game, and show that he can lead an offense to victory and deliver in high pressure moments while winning a national title with Florida, right?
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, I was watching that tournament, watching him torch people live from my wingers, and I was texting you, I'm like, dude, the Jazz got to find a way to sign this guy.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: This guy can be a floor general, the Jazz have not had in a long time.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then we drafted him.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: Um we waved him.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Right.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Or traded him, I guess.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, we traded him, but uh I think when they drafted him, AJ, they didn't draft him for any other reason than knowing that he's gonna be an asset to trade in the future.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: And here's my theory on that.
24:25
SPEAKER_00: He played 45 games uh for the Utah Jazz, averaging 18 minutes per game.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Is it possible they saw what they needed to see in him and just wanted to move on from there?
24:33
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, okay, this is not our guy, let's move on.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, or is it more likely that they were weren't planning on keeping him?
24:39
SPEAKER_00: All these draft picks that are coming in that the Jazz have, where they're drafting these players in the later rounds, they already had Isaiah Collier, they already had Keonta George, they already had um some other options there at guard.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: They even, you know, know the upcoming draft is gonna be guard heavy, where any one of those players in the top ten are gonna be better than what Walter Clayton Jr.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: is gonna be just based off of potential alone, right?
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: For that award in basketball's potential.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, but so in my thought process, it's already more likely that that's basically what they were doing with him.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: They gave him a shot to like, hey, wow us, or we're gonna move on from you.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Um so Walter Clayton Jr.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: is a better shooter.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: He shoots 30%.
25:18
SPEAKER_00: Um, so when it comes to the backup point guard position, he is a better shooter than Isaiah Collier is.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: He's at 30 uh from three when Isaiah Collier was 26.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: So neither of those are good.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, checks out.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh neither of those are very good at all.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but in all of the categories, um, Isaiah Collier is actually uh the same if not better.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: And he's a year younger.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: They both are 6'4.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, Isaiah Collier has a lot about 30 pounds, uh 24 pounds more on him than uh Walter Clayton Jr.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: does.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh if I had to pick a guard between those two to continue keeping on this team, I'm gonna pick Isaiah Collier all day, every day.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Just simply because he's so in other words, neither one of these players are great for the Jazz.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: That's pretty much what I'm hearing.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: No.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: So interesting conversation, but neither one of them are great for the Jazz.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, there's articles floating around them, so if we wanted to at least talk about it and say, hey, you know, here's our here are a few things that we saw.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: So absolutely.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: I I definitely don't think either one of these players are a good fit for him.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: We already got plenty of players on this team that can't play defense.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then the Jazz go out and add Tony Bradley the la over the last couple of days, you know, for him to come back to the jazz kind of gives you a little bit more center depth.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: Um street close right now.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Why is he in street close?
26:31
SPEAKER_02: Is it just because the trade's not finalized?
26:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but he was on the bench in street clothes.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully he's not hurt.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, let us know, folks, in the in the in the chat if we're wrong there.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, he was hurt.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh either he was hurt or he just something was there.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got a couple of comments here we want to hit from you guys.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh we got uh was this uh McIntuja?
26:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Don't know.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Macintujia.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: I like yours better.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh perimeter defense uh will be a problem for us.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Rebound rebounds are a problem.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes, see, and and my problem, my thing with the perimeter defense is that's why that's the reason we went out and got the Josh's.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
27:09
SPEAKER_02: A Kogi and Green, like the whole idea was to shore up the perimeter defense.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: If you've got somebody that's torching you, like the jazz happened tonight, you throw one of those guys out there and you let him go out there and stop a shooter, you put a body on him, and you've got six, four, six, five guards essentially, that are excellent defensive players and can still shoot the three ball.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: But we failed to execute that until the fourth quarter tonight.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when the game's already out of hand.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: I'll I keep saying this all the time, and I've referenced it several times in this channel.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: If you've heard the story before, just bear with me here.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm an old man and I don't have new stories.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: But uh, you remember the game against Rodney Hood where Cody Bright Kobe Bryant like locked him down and said, Oh no, you're not scoring on me.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he knocked down, he had like a huge quarter in the first, and then he decided to Kobe straight up just told him, like, you're not gonna get it again.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I hope you enjoyed it.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: He locked him down.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: We don't we need that kind of intensity from and that's exactly like you said, that's exactly what the Josh is there for.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: The fact that we don't didn't use them that way is kind of a little again concerning on the some of the decision making we're getting from uh the coaching staff, which is not great.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh Calamario Atari says here I feel worse tonight than I have at any point during the last four years of tanking.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, keep your head up, buddy.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: These the the jazz are gonna be just fine.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: This this is game one.
28:22
SPEAKER_02: And and the the best part is is uh this this team has a lot of really nice pieces that really do have to be on a court playing against NBA talent for some of that to mesh together.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: Like that that's all there is to it.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm the eternal optimist.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: This team's gonna be just fine.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, we lost to a Memphis team that's not supposed to be very good this year, but I'm gonna tell you this team will look better.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: Coach Hardy's gonna get them whipped into shape.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: We'll be just fine.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: Love it from the Eternal Optimist.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: And then uh for me over here, the realist, uh, I'm a little concerned.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking our preseason prediction of 50 wins is not looking so great right now, AJ.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, we're 0-1.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: So that's not a great start.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Not a great start, but but at least we're not 0-10.
29:06
SPEAKER_00: That's true, that's true.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Coming here from Car Wash Channel, it seems like we're always uh we always Yeah, yeah, we were just talking about that.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Hydro, the journeyman.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: It seems like there's always a career high when these teams play jazz, Tyrone.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it goes all the way back to gosh, uh, the Tyrone Corbin days, dude.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: Like this, that's just something that keeps happening.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, no surprise, career high for sure.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh Akogi was good in the very limited minutes.
29:34
SPEAKER_00: He got absolutely agreed.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: He he looked great in the minutes that he got, and he looked like he was out there to do a specific job, which is stop a perimeter shooter and shoot the three ball effectively, or even just even just like even he doesn't even have to make three pointers while he's out there.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: His whole purpose is to be out there and be a guy that the other team knows can shoot 40% from the three-point line.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: It forces the defender to go over, and it clears the lane for some of these young kids to get a little bit more space and get a shot.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: I would really be interested to see how many times we had an open corner three tonight.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I did not see the ball move around enough.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: I know that Akogi had a couple, I know DP had a couple.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: We had uh Ace had the one air ball from Yeah, that was horrible, wide open, and just shot it like 18 feet over the hoop, which was come on, Ace.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like maybe he was too excited, he was a little bit too open, but you know, it it's it's gonna be okay.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be it really is gonna be okay.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: These these are these are young kids that are just getting out there trying to get some gel.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be fine, guys.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, then we're gonna back that up right here with Greg Hawkins, channel legends saying we suck.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: Sad face.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh then I love this from him.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys for talking.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: It's back from the ledge, AJ.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm here for, buddy.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Any anytime anybody needs uh some positive jazz reinforcement, feel free to reach out to me on Instagram or whatever.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: I will automatically tell you we're great.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everything's great.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: Even if we're like 0-79, I'm still gonna be like, we're gonna be fine, we're gonna figure it out.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna finish with less than five losses or less than five wins.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope not.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Let's hope not.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: And then I'll be right there to uh point out uh the realist the reality of the situation.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Darren's no fun.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Let's not forget that, right?
31:15
SPEAKER_02: It's like there's there's the fun one, and then there's Darren.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just you know, I I think that we need to be able to have a position where we get to be critical of the team that we follow, you know, and that's kind of why we're here.
31:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously there's some other folks that are in a similar position uh that you know will be able to say their piece, but at the same time, we want to make sure that we're, you know, um totally agree.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, I do agree, and I and I can be critical because I I do think the Jazz have some things to clean up, but I do have full faith that they will clean it up.
31:44
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
31:44
SPEAKER_02: Like that the this wasn't the end all be all, we're not gonna lose 82 games this year.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: Like we had a bad game.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: Did you see enough from DP to be confident in his uh rookie year?
31:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh I saw enough from BP to feel confident that he'll continue starting until we see a lot less from him.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I don't know who BP is, but DP.
32:02
SPEAKER_02: DP is the same thing as BP back in practice or Darren Peterson.
32:06
SPEAKER_00: Either one, either way, both golden, both golden, yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: Both very valuable in their own in their own means.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
32:11
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, absolutely.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, folks, once again, we want to hear from you.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh, all of you that are in here uh watching live, absolutely love it.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: Hi, hi BP.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Love it, love it, thanks, Calamario Dari.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, again, first season in.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: We want to jump in here, guys, and uh, you know, delay the show a few minutes here so we can do a live post-game show for this one, and then also kind of just you know chat back with you guys, back and forth with you guys a little bit in the comments on this game.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm really confident that DP's gonna do great.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Ace is definitely the highlight of the game for me from a jazz standpoint.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: I think he did in I think he showed incredible growth.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: He showed that he's the best athlete on the floor when he's playing.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes, which is really, really good to see.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: I I really loved Ace's defensive effort tonight, which is what what we knew we had to see, right?
32:58
SPEAKER_02: He we know he's talented offensively, he has been since he came into the league.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Could he make the next step and do the chase down blocks like we saw tonight?
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Can he guard somebody in space and not just be a turnstile that you know forces Triple J over and forces Jackson Hayes over so that guys are out of position and teams start getting easy buckets?
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Ace Bailey did the stuff that we needed to see from him tonight, and and I really I really loved that um you know he wasn't in the starting lineup and he still came up with that energy.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely did.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely do.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: We got a couple comments here from Jordan before we move on from the jazz.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Filipalski can't play at center, such a liability.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: Why is Philippowski on the floor at all?
33:38
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna have to back you up on this one, Jordan.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: I actually think like his high, if he's like his career high opportunity, uh, would be crap, just lost my brain.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Um point forward kind of thing.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: He also played center for the Utah Jazz for a little bit.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: He was on one of the earlier episodes where we were gonna potentially try and pick him back up because he was released by his team.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: He played for Toronto last, I believe.
34:03
SPEAKER_02: Kelly Alinek.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: I think Alinoc is his ceiling.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I don't think he can be a center.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: I think he's a power forward and he's, you know, gonna be more of a I could see that.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: I could see him being a Kelly Alinek type player at some point.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know if he moves laterally and is defensively as capable as Alinek was.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Now, Alinek wasn't a great defensive player, but he was still twice a defensive player that Philip Howski is.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just I'm I'm just saying that the center position is not for him in the NBA.
34:33
SPEAKER_00: No, no, he doesn't have the reach, doesn't have the length.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: He's T-Rex.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
34:37
SPEAKER_02: He's up there like, don't shoot it over me.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: The best chance chance he has is to be a body on the floor and learn how to move a little bit better laterally and be more um more of a basketball IQ guy, read the floor a little bit better and kind of develop there, yep, and be a great backup center, power forward in the league that can stretch the floor.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: I think that's really his his uh ceiling there.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I don't think he has really a spot on the Utah Jazz.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: Hot take.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: Too hot, too cold.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: I agree.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's even adding Tony Bradley.
35:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think Bradley could take all of Philipowski's minutes, and you'd feel much better about it.
35:10
unknown: Yeah.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: And Bradley's not a great player.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he actually turned into a better player than what the Jazz saw from him, like in the last couple of seasons.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: He became more serviceable.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: Indiana, yeah.
35:18
SPEAKER_02: A little better as a defensive guy.
35:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's always been pretty offensively polished.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, he can shoot from a few feet out, you know, he's really good around the rim.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: He's a great rebounder.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Bradley's not a bad addition to this team at all.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: No.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, and and I but I think you've got to force him in.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why Philipowski's playing minutes if we got Bradley.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: Agreed, agreed.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh, some other comments here.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: We got another one from Jordan that I want to hit on.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: Ace is the only uh bright spot.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh I wouldn't, I would disagree on that one a little bit.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: I'd take it back from that.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: Why he I think he was a great high spot.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: I do think that we did see some stuff from DP that showed that he was willing to put in the effort on defense and he is rebounding the ball.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, didn't have a whole lot of shot attempts.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson only seven uh attempts, only shot one from three, yeah, uh, which didn't go in well.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: But he did, he did have like the highest uh free throw percentage on the team, uh, where he actually saw shot 75% from the line.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: He hit three of four when everybody else was in the 50s.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: So um, I mean Isaiah Keller got 60%.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so there are some stuff to take away from there.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: I like what we saw from DP, like what we saw from Ace.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: I definitely think Keontae George proved that he can still be the point guard for this team, be the floor general for this team when he has NBA talent surrounding him.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: Yep, which was good to see.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, we definitely get your point there, Jordan.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: There wasn't a whole lot to be happy about this one.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, Ace giving was giving full effort uh at all times on the floor, on the court, from what I could see.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely agreed.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: Ace was awesome.
36:45
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38:20
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38:30
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38:36
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38:42
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38:43
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38:52
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38:54
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38:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, all right, so before we go ahead and switch and talk on the Utah football DNA talk here, uh, we want to take a quick moment and tip our DNA sports recap hat, uh, AJ, uh, for the boys down south.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Won an incredible win against the at the time number two ranked uh team in the country, which was Notre Dame over the weekend, winning 28 to 24 at home.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Coug showed how uh they are a team that can play with the toughest uh uh and get a huge win uh without their star running back in LJ Martin.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean, what can you not say about Bear Buckmeyer?
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Two rushing touchdowns, one passing touchdown, one receiving touchdown.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: You know, this was you know a pretty impressive, a pretty impressive win for the for the boys in blue there for sure.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: Um after uh watching Notre Dame uh rally to take a 24-21 lead uh in the fourth quarter, BYU responded uh with a clutch 10-play, 55-yard drive, capped with a six-yard touchdown pass from Buckmeyer to Walker Lions with just one minute and 47 seconds remaining on the clock.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: The defense uh held um and then you know stealing a statement victory uh for them as they continue to move forward undefeated, six to six and oh, and establishing them as a legit national contender.
40:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, now BYU sits number two at in the AP poll, AJ.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, they sure do.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, really, what a game by BYU.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I watched the whole thing and and it was a fun one because you kind of knew it was going to be one of those games where it was like, this one's gonna come down to the wire.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, like it this these are two good teams.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: Like obviously, Notre Dame is one of those football powerhouses that um, you know, shows up.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, these guys go out and win these games all the time.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, their coach Marcus Freeman talked about it in the pregame.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: He he specifically said, This is what Notre Dame football is about.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: We go into these places, we play big games, this is what we're here for, etc.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: etc.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Um I think I think the the the crazy part was is there was there was a lot of shakeup last weekend, right?
40:59
SPEAKER_02: As far as top teams going down.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Um, and it kind of puts us into this weird like unknown territory because there isn't an undefeated team in the SEC, right?
41:09
SPEAKER_02: UCLA is the only undefeated team left in the Big Ten.
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Miami is the only team undefeated in the ACC.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: But the Big 12, the unforgotten Big 12 that nobody likes to talk about because why?
41:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: We we have not one, not two, but three undefeated teams still in the conference.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: And the team that just knocked off the number two team only gets to the number two ranking, right?
41:35
SPEAKER_02: I I just I guess I don't understand how messed up these AP roll AP poll rankings are, and how on earth is BYU not ranked one after that win?
41:45
SPEAKER_02: Because you you think about this if I if Ohio State with one loss goes even even at home, okay.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: Notre Dame goes to Ohio State, Ohio State could be ranked 14th with one loss, and if they beat Notre Dame in a game, you think Ohio State's going anywhere but number one?
42:04
SPEAKER_02: Or yeah, yeah.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: They're going to number one.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: One loss against a number two, yeah, against a number two team, and they're going to number one.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing in the SEC.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: Guaranteed.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: And and my problem with like this, I mean this Ohio State team, and their one loss right now is to a Texas team that was bad.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: But again, if if they would had taken that one, they're definitely going back to number one.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's the same thing with Georgia.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: Um they they would just absolutely be ranked number one.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: And and for BYU to play in a conference with three undefeated teams at this point in the season, and you know, and I understand the three undefeated teams haven't played each other, and that's some of whatever you want to call it, but the bias against the Big 12 is real.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: It's something that's really disturbing.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: This conference plays good football.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: We have teams that can go against anybody.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: We had Texas Tech who went out there, and yeah, they didn't play great in the college football playoff year, but they're still a talented team.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: They still started the season in the top 15.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Like BYU is the same thing.
43:05
SPEAKER_02: Those guys, those guys were 12 and 2 last year.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I don't know.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh I I I was it was pretty crazy.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: I I'm I'm really disappointed with with the way that that all ended up.
43:17
SPEAKER_02: Um and don't even get me started on on Miami schedule, right?
43:21
SPEAKER_02: Like and how they got to number one when they squeak by a Florida state team that it was three and three going in the rates.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: Like just squeak by them and I get it.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: There's there's some rivalry stuff here, right?
43:31
SPEAKER_02: Like that's it's an in-state rivalry, whatever.
43:34
SPEAKER_02: But I am I am a true red Utah fan, right?
43:39
SPEAKER_02: I I bleed Crimson, but I still believe that BYU should be the number one ranked team in this in the state, uh in the country.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we're we're not seriously, like he doesn't not even want to talk you uh BYU football.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: I really don't.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: You know, we were gonna have like this be like a a Utah football like for the whole state, but it Like, I just can't do it.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: This guy's read all the way through, youth till he dies, kind of thing.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: Go uts every time he gets a chance to say it.
44:08
SPEAKER_02: It's go youth.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: And the fact that he's saying the YU should be the number one rate team in the country is basically saying a lot.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, man, I think I'm right there with you, man.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you got Georgia, Notre Dame, Indiana, all three, uh, three out of the top five teams all took losses uh this weekend.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I believe you said on our pre-call, five of the top eight.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh all took a loss this weekend.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: So big shape up in the fact that that did not land BYU at the number one spot when, you know, to your point, Miami's schedule and and you know, I don't know.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm right there with you, man.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: I I can understand why they do that, but I just kind of I'm I'm used to it.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: This is Utah.
44:45
SPEAKER_00: We always have a bias against us when it comes to literally anything, you know, especially in the NBA.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Like it's you know, we're there's a reason why, you know, players don't want to come here.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason why, you know, nobody has to win.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: And I think a lot of my disgust comes from the the the hate that comes to the Big 12 conference and and the football that we're playing.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
45:07
SPEAKER_02: Like it's like BYU just beat Notre Dame in this game.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: And we're playing in a tough conference with good teams.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Arizona's in the top 25, Houston's in the top 25.
45:17
SPEAKER_02: Like we've got five teams in the top 25 right now.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: Right.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: And the this conference has to get some respect.
45:24
SPEAKER_02: And and the big thing was is if BYU can beat Notre Dame, this conference should get respect.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: They did it, and the conference still isn't getting respect.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: You're still not giving BYU a ranking because of the conference that they're in.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it jumped to two is great, but when the fact that you beat the number two team and the team they chose to put number one, uh just goes to show you that it's all about market, not necessarily about football or about talent.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, man, I think it's really interesting because this is like what the are we going into the third season that Utah is in the Big Twelve or the second?
45:57
SPEAKER_00: Second season, I don't remember.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Off the top of my head.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, we should know that.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: Actually, no, yeah.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: I think it is the second season.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, um, there's just a whole bunch of other teams I don't really like.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: The conference, I don't have a good read on yet, you know.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: But I do know that they're treated like the third stepchild out out of the the SEC in the Big Ten.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: Greg's Greg's comment is exactly spot on, dude.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: Our conference is B tier, right?
46:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our concert is our conference is B tier, which is all I which is all we all knew when the Pac 12 folded.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: That was entirely predictable.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: All the good teams went to the Big Ten, good teams went to the Big Ten, and uh yeah, so we got to.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean the powerhouses, right?
46:37
SPEAKER_02: Like the traditional Pac-12 powerhouses went to the Big Ten.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: USC, UCLA, Oregon, like and we said we said from the beginning that this time in the Big Ten the Big 12 is odd in is an audition for the next time that there's conference reality.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: And that's what we gotta do here.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: I I think we're I think the teams in Utah are doing a great job at that, so we're gonna keep pushing forward.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: Um, you mentioned uh a few things there uh that I kind of wanted to touch on a little bit, but um one of the main things on this one, AJ, is this was the game that we've been pointing to in our pre in our pre-show meetings and a lot on the channel, actually, when we talked about the non-Utah game, Utah football game that has the most potential impact against the University of Utah.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
47:24
SPEAKER_00: And how their chances, and again, chances for an at-large bid to get um into the college football playoff.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: And I think BYU did what they could uh to send the message that they belong in there.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: It'll help BYU when they're a one-loss team without a conference championship.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
47:42
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: They definitely did it.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: Because when they lose to Utah, um, and then you you know Utah is gonna go on to the Big 12.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe we can get three teams.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Because you're gonna have tech.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: I think you're being a little too optimistic.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have tech who's gonna have the loss in the conference championship against Utah.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: Utah, and then Utah's gonna get the auto bid, but they're not gonna leave tech out, and then BYU's gonna have that nice win against Notre Dame.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: And only one loss against twice to the same king.
48:08
SPEAKER_02: See what I mean?
48:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see, I love it.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: The eternal uh Utah Optimus fans there.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh got a couple more comments we want to hit uh from uh this was Utah football DNA.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: What is this?
48:18
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
48:19
SPEAKER_02: Stop, dude.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, Greg.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: I I I have to bring it up though, dude.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: Like the fact is, is like I'm again not a BYU fan, but they should be ranked number one in the country.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
48:30
SPEAKER_02: Like they are they are a better football team than the University of Miami is, uh no doubt about it.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: And it just tells you how crap the AP poll rankings are.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's unfortunate, man.
48:41
SPEAKER_00: Again, we want to tip our hats to BYU for, you know, again, proving that uh they deserve to be the number one team in the country.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: They just, you know, again, get the Utah bias against them.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: So uh again, we're tipping our caps to you guys down there and down south.
48:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh shame that McKinley's uh not jumping in the chat here.
48:56
SPEAKER_00: You think we dedicated 20 minutes to BYU football, you think he'd be around or saying something.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, nothing.
49:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh nothing must must have been uh checked out tonight.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
49:03
SPEAKER_02: We'll move on to Utah football.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: We can talk go ute.
49:05
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's do that.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: Before we get into the content, we'd like to encourage you to join the conversation in the comments down below.
49:19
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49:23
SPEAKER_02: Make sure you smash that like button for your boy Darren.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: All right, and thanks for showing up, McKinley.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Glad you were there.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: Glad you were in there.
49:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, did you hear our rant then?
49:33
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully you didn't miss it.
49:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we wanted to make sure that we uh got a chance to talk to you, talk a little bit about BYU, uh, because they deliver deservedly so.
49:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, we want to make sure we But also you're gonna have to go back and rewatch it because we're on Utah football now.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're moving on.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: We're moving on.
49:46
SPEAKER_00: So hopefully we're there.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh we got a comment here was watching uh the jazz game a little behind.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh had to record it, and I was and I hadn't thought should I just skift it this one?
49:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Every time I see a jazz score that's a blow-out, I'm like, good news is I don't have to spend any time watching the jazz game tonight because I record them too.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, perfect.
50:04
SPEAKER_00: I just freed up two hours of my night.
50:06
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so again, folks, uh thank you for joining us uh for Utah Football DNA.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're gonna jump in and talk a little bit about uh the boys up on the hill.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh let's go ahead and first talk about let's recap Utah versus Colorado, IJ.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh, do we have to?
50:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh let's go ahead and just get through this one real quick.
50:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: So Utah was 27 to 24 over Colorado was the victory score.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh sorry, was the final score in that victory for the University of Utah, but it was far from a dominant performance from uh the boys in white, by the way.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: What did you think about those helmets?
50:39
SPEAKER_02: Love the helmets.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: I bought the hoodie.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: I love it, dude.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: They were great.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, are you are you concerned about how they played in the uniform though?
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Did I taint it for you at all?
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, a little bit.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: Two times in a row, they didn't look great.
50:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: We'll see how they have it.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry, we're going dark mode this week, baby.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Dark week.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: Dark mode this week.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm ready for it.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: So the youth built a 13-0 lead to halftime, AJ, uh, only to surrender 17 unanswered points uh through almost the entire third quarter.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh did get the lead back with about a minute left uh in the third uh Utah's offense.
51:12
SPEAKER_00: Moved the ball 409 yards, but struggled to finish the drives.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Devon Dam here uh did throw two interceptions in this game, which he only had two interceptions all season up to this point.
51:22
SPEAKER_02: One of those wasn't really his fault.
51:23
SPEAKER_02: It was like a shovel pass that like hit and got caught by somebody.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: It's not necessarily throwing an interception when you shovel the pass forward.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but AJ, to me, that pass was the undoing that caused the unraveling for the for Utah.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: It was the beginning of the That was the catalyst.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: What are you doing?
51:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: You're not you this you're not blowing this team out.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Stop being cute.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Do something.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: You know?
51:43
SPEAKER_00: So for me, I love that you pointed out that play because again, to me, that one was kind of the catalyst that kind of jump started everything for this game.
51:49
SPEAKER_02: That was the big momentum swing for sure.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: On the offensive line, did have trouble establishing uh consistent control of the line of scrimmage all game long.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: Colorado did rank up, uh did rack up 324 yards uh in the second half.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Credit Utah for responding uh under pressure and making enough plays to preserve their perfect record, but against a stronger opponent like Houston, which we'll talk about here in a minute, AJ, yep, um, those mistakes will be a lot more costly.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Utah gets the win, uh, but we needed to be a lot sharper, AJ.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: I totally agree.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: Um Utah just looked out of sorts in this one, man.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like they the to start off by not finishing drives was was really surprising.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: This team's done a really good job the whole year marching down the field, scoring a touchdown, getting in the end zone.
52:33
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and they get into their in into scoring position three times in the first half and only come up, come out with 13 points.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's that's really concerning.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh, it just looked to me this whole game like Utah was just waiting for this one to be handed to them.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Like they were gonna win no matter what.
52:50
SPEAKER_02: So they're just gonna go out there and do whatever they got to do because they're gonna beat Colorado because they're bad and we're good.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: And I I just think that like that was their mindset.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's no way we can lose this game.
53:01
SPEAKER_02: It's Colorado, they're horrible.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: And you know, Isaac Wilson's back there.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: There's a reason he's not on the team anymore.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: He's behind 14 quarterbacks in our quarterback room.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, keep in mind Isaac Wilson, like, and I'm not trying to make excuses because I can make excuses all day with the best of them, but Isaac Wilson has taken more snaps against his Utah defense than any quarterback in all of college football.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: True.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: He he has played more snaps, he is going to have a better understanding of how this defense lines up, how it looks schematically, where he's going to find soft spots.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: That is his whole job.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he played scout team for most of last year.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: Like he's playing against first team defenses.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: So Isaac Wilson had an idea of what he was doing.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: He was in a perfect position.
53:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, Dion was aware of that.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: Like when he put him in that spot, he knew that Isaac had a chance to be more successful against his team than any other quarterback.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: He is a talented kid, he's got a freaking rocket for an arm.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, does he make good choices all the time?
53:56
SPEAKER_02: No, not really.
53:57
SPEAKER_00: But a couple of interceptions.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: But he is a talented quarterback.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he was a four four-star recruit out of high school.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: Like, he he very well could have put a I mean, he did put the youths in a really bad position, and we almost lost this game.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: Um don't and don't get me wrong, I love this youth team, right?
54:13
SPEAKER_02: They are talented.
54:14
SPEAKER_02: We have so many players that it just feels like you can lean on, right?
54:17
SPEAKER_02: When it gets to certain points, you've got guys like Devin Dampier that you're like, put it on your shoulders, let's go out and get this win.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: You've got Weyshawn Parker, put it on your shoulders.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: Braden Peg, Braden Pagan, same thing, right?
54:29
SPEAKER_02: You've got all these guys, you're just like, these guys are so talented, there's no way we can lose this game.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: And I never felt like we were going to lose this game, but I'm like, when are we gonna go out there and try to actually win it?
54:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like when are we gonna go out and say, okay, this is over?
54:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, you guys are the worst team in this conference, and we are one of the best teams in this conference.
54:47
SPEAKER_02: We are going to win this game with our with our skill, not yours.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
54:52
SPEAKER_00: I I that's you bring up a good point there, and that's kind of what I wanted to touch on.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: You mentioned something here earlier in your little rant there, which I love, by the way.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: Um was this uh Isaac Wilson just taking advantage of his knowledge of the Utes, or was this an actual sign of a defensive lapse for the for the University of Utah?
55:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I think it was 100% him knowing the Utes defense.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: Really?
55:14
SPEAKER_02: I a hundred percent think that.
55:16
SPEAKER_02: I I I don't I think the Utes have some things to work out through defense, but he is going to know when the Utes are showing certain pressures.
55:23
SPEAKER_02: He's going to know when the youths are showing zone, like he's gonna know when there's hiding stuff.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but this is Colorado, dude.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: It's still he still played thousands of snaps against this defense.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: I I know, I know.
55:34
SPEAKER_00: And having that understanding, I just I don't know.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: From what I was looking, from from what I saw when I was watching the the coverage of this game, I saw a lot more miscues.
55:44
SPEAKER_00: Not only that, but also like you mentioned on the offensive side where they just simply just felt like this was oh hum and they're eventually just gonna get a couple of touchdown drives and put this one away, and it was all gonna be.
55:52
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
55:53
SPEAKER_00: But I think that they things were a little bit sloppy on the offensive side.
55:56
SPEAKER_00: Sloppy on the defensive side, too.
55:57
SPEAKER_00: Sloppy enough on the defensive side.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you've got to get a whole lot more pressure.
56:01
SPEAKER_02: The the the Colorado offensive line was a was very surprising.
56:04
SPEAKER_02: They did a really good job blocking up front.
56:06
SPEAKER_02: And and Wilson Wilson had a lot more time to throw the ball, to make reads, like even they looked not bad.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: How many, like, how many first downs did he get on on quick throws on short routes?
56:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, I counted at least four or five.
56:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:19
SPEAKER_00: He was like they were coming out.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: And he was able to get the ball out quick and just knew he knew where he's throwing it before, and he knew they were coming to your point.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, I just to me, I thought there was a little bit more than just simply, you know, Isaac Wilson was prepped for this team.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: I think there was a lot more bullying to be handed around the Utah football team.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: Is that is that fair?
56:38
SPEAKER_02: I totally agree.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
56:39
SPEAKER_00: Just want to make sure I was reading that right.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I want to hit some of these comments here before we jump into the next segment.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: Here we got uh McKinley Cutler saying almost had to almost had the Isaac Wilson revenge game.
56:49
SPEAKER_02: Glad we didn't.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was scary.
56:51
SPEAKER_00: Um getting to that point, you said like that they're gonna win this game.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: They didn't need to win this game, they needed to blow this one out.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: They did.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Because that's why you went from from 11 to 10 this week.
57:01
SPEAKER_02: Because if they blow out Colorado, they're probably seven, eight.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: I probably around eight is probably what I think they would be if they blew out Colorado.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: But they didn't.
57:09
SPEAKER_02: And and and honestly, I'm not sure if the youths deserve the number 10 ranking that they have.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: Like they probably could have stayed at 11 and that would have been just fine.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: The internal optimist who thinks the youths are gonna win the national championship is questioning whether or not if their rank's too high.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: So that tells you how bad that uh currently.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: Currently, yeah, gotta put that after.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: After they beat Houston this week, and then you know, then we have Cincinnati.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
57:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh Colorado surprised me.
57:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think that they were better than their record, but they are missing some key pieces.
57:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh if they can find those, uh they will be they will do well next year.
57:42
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, wait till next year.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: Well we'll we'll that we'll let them be good next year, because that's not what we're worried about right now.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Yep, go youths this year.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: Versus Houston, who needs uh who we need to better pass rush, we need better pass rush.
57:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't know uh what's going on.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: You are so absolutely correct, dude.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know what's going on with this team, but all of a sudden we can't get to quarterbacks, and and I'm not sure what the problem is.
58:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if we're trying to win in just four versus five matchups all the time, right?
58:12
SPEAKER_02: One guy's getting double teamed, you're not getting nearly enough pressure off the edges.
58:16
SPEAKER_02: Like our pass rushers have got to get out there and cause pressure and and sorry, cause hurries.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: Like make these make these quarterbacks make faster decisions because Connor Wiegman will absolutely torch us this week against Houston, Houston if we don't get out and get pressure on him quickly.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think we have to worry about a new mayor of Sac Sack Lake City right now.
58:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: So far.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: Glad nobody watched the video.
58:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:43
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to all six people who watched that video.
58:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, Isaac Wilson might not uh might be uh might have been screwed uh over by Winningham.
58:52
SPEAKER_00: Good point, uh, who seems to be anti uh quarterback whisperer.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: Glad uh he's in a good spot now.
58:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
59:00
SPEAKER_00: Um gosh, it's been a whole two weeks since we talked to Kyle Whittingham on this show.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, that's crazy.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: Is that because we didn't have a show last week?
59:06
SPEAKER_02: That's probably why.
59:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's probably exactly the reason.
59:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sorry guys, people gotta eat, so we got jobs to do.
59:12
SPEAKER_00: Damn it.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh appreciate you guys' patience though.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for uh dealing with us on that one.
59:16
SPEAKER_02: And jobs are the worst, let's be honest.
59:19
SPEAKER_00: Love it, love it.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, folks, we want to go ahead and switch on over to previewing.
59:25
SPEAKER_00: Um am I queuing this one up?
59:26
SPEAKER_00: I think you were queuing this one up, aren't you?
59:28
SPEAKER_02: Yep, I'm starting this one.
59:29
SPEAKER_00: All right, we want to queue ahead and jump into our preview uh for University of Utah versus Houston.
59:36
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
59:37
SPEAKER_02: Um so next week, or sorry, next, not next week, this week.
59:41
SPEAKER_02: Next week, another bye week.
59:42
SPEAKER_02: Next week, yeah.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: So this Saturday, we have a top 15 matchup where the University of Utah um will take out the Houston Cougars.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: Cougars.
59:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay, let me try this again.
59:55
SPEAKER_02: Next, next we have a top 15 matchup where the University of Houston Cougars come to Salt Lake City to take on our number 10 Utah Youths uh with College Game Day here to host the game.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh Utah is favored by six and a half points in this game.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: Houston is currently six and one with their only loss coming to Texas Tech earlier this year.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh and coming out of a hard-fought win against Oklahoma State, which is a team that has really surprised a bunch of people this year.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, the Utes come into this game 6-0, coming off a disappointing win against Colorado uh in a game that they almost gave away.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_02: So uh Houston has a really potent offense that is ranked number 10 in the country, and they will be going against a Utah defense that is ranked 27th in total defense.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: Darren, what are your thoughts?
1:00:39
SPEAKER_00: So this one's gonna be an interesting one, man.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: This one's gonna be interesting.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_00: Um can we take a second pause there for a second?
1:00:46
SPEAKER_00: I want to jump on one thing that you said there before I go into the the to the defense here for Houston uh on the Kooks.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: Is that how cool is it that we have game day here in Utah on back-to-back weeks?
1:00:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm pretty sure it was just fuel savings.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, could you no, definitely not.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_00: That is definitely not the case.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: This, if you watch Game College Football Game Day, you will know that that's this is like the one show they blow the budget on like every single week.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_00: They will fire somebody at the at the ESPN's desk, one of their longtime broadcasters, analysts, whatever, if it means they can keep putting money into this.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_00: There's no way that they just simply just decided, oh, we're just gonna take the 20-minute drive up north and call it good.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_00: No, Utah earned this, my friend.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_00: The state earned this, and I absolutely love it.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_00: What a beautiful time it is to be a fan of sports here in Utah.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_00: We have the Utah Jazz are gonna try to win games.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_00: BYU is ranked number two in the country, Utah is ranked 10 in the top 10 in the country.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh, when we both couldn't even get, you know.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you guys play football over there?
1:01:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_00: Utah Mammoth were a wildcard team last year.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_00: We have a hockey team that has a wildcar birth last year.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_00: And baseball, Major League Baseball, AJ, is knocking on the door here in Utah.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_00: So let's take a second, let's take a cheers and congratulate all your Utah fans out there of any sports.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_00: Cheers, guys.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_00: It's a good time.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_00: For anybody watching, that's apple juice.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so back to this game, right?
1:02:14
SPEAKER_00: So on defense, the Cougars um thrive on making on their team's ability to shut down the run and create turnovers in the secondary, right?
1:02:22
SPEAKER_00: So Houston uh is only allowing just 82.6 yards rushing per game.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_00: That's good for sixth fewest in the country.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: Defensive backs Jordan Allen and Will James both have recorded two interceptions each.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_00: And then along with uh Jalen Mayo, they are three uh they are three top ranked 30 pass defenders in the country.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_00: They protect the football.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be the key.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_00: The Utah Utes need to protect the football.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_00: Devin Dampier again threw two interceptions against Colorado last week.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_00: Houston's secondary will has shown that they're capable of capitalizing on those mistakes and forcing risky throws that could quickly swing the momentum of this game pretty easily, right?
1:03:06
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_00: So what it needs to be when it comes to how the Utes uh attack Houston, it's gonna be through the air.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_00: The Cougars run defense is excellent, yes, but their pass defense, uh they allow 265 passing yards per game.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_00: Utah should exploit this.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's a weakness for them with some quick throws, some opportunities downfield.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_00: Don't get cute with it and try and and you know get the playbook in there and do some easy, you know, plays that can make an easy mistake for the other team to capitalize, like cause a turnover on an error shuffle throw in the red zone.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's not do any of that.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_00: Let's keep that stuff out of this game.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_00: Don't abandon the run.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_00: Of course, AJ, we need to let you know uh Weyshawn Parker eat, right?
1:03:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh just capitalize on Houston on Houston's weakness.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh make sure they respect the passing game, um, but open things uh by opening things up for Weyshawn Parker so we can keep those pink cleats going for week eight.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_02: No, I totally agree.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the Utah offense is currently ranked number nine in the country, right?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: And um this Houston defense that ranks number 60 in total, uh like you said, they specialize in stopping the run, man.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_02: This Utah offense has to continue to be creative.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, they if there's anything left in the playbook, this is where it's got to come out.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_02: Um we we got a comment here that it's not a triple play.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_02: If we play bad again, Houston will win.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_02: But on offense, should the offense should win the time of possession.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if we play bad again, Houston will win.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_02: But our offense should win time of possession on paper and we will score on their defense through the air.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Key players, way Sean, can we get him going?
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: Houston will score.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: It's absolutely right.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the the big thing is is this Houston offense is very capable of scoring.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: Um can we shut them down?
1:04:52
SPEAKER_02: Um to kind of go into a little bit more of their offense, right?
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: It's fueled by their star quarterback.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Connor Wigman is uh a transfer from Texas AM.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: You don't get much much less than a four or five star quarterback at Texas AM.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_02: That's it's an SEC school.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_02: He's really talented.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_02: He's already passed for 1,771 yards this year.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, he has a completion percentage of 67.7.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_02: He's thrown 20 touchdowns, two interceptions.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_02: Um he's got two key targets out there.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: One of them is his tight end, Patrick Overmeyer, um, who has 432 receiving yards and seven touchdowns, and wide receiver Amari Thomas, who has 487 receiving yards and has caught six touchdowns.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: Um the cop they got a couple of really strong guys on the offensive line, um, guard Shadray Hurst and center Anthony Boswell, both done a really good job.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, protecting Wiegman, who's only been sacked seven times this year.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_02: So uh this team runs and throws the ball well.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh they have a couple running backs that do it with uh Mikai Hughes, Rashawn Sanford the second.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: They have 964 of their 1,542 rushing yards.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then to add one more wrinkle, Wigman does have six rushing touchdowns.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_02: So Something you gotta keep an eye on.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: This guy will hold the ball.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't like to run.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: He is a pocket passing quarterback.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: But if the option is there, he will take off and go on you.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_02: So uh this youth defense is gonna have their hands full, man.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_02: This this is gonna be a tough game.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh I think uh we it's it's nice to be home for this one.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_02: It's real nice to be home for this one.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_00: Um so FanDuel research and CBS boards show that uh the youths are six and a half point favorites on this one against Houston.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_00: Um three and a half points of that is usually the home field advantage.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_00: So I I like I like where they're sitting on this one, AJ, but you know, again, we gotta make sure that the youths come out of this with we're gonna hear we're gonna understand a lot about how coach uh Morgan Scaly handles his team because this one kind of felt like a loss.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_02: The Colorado game?
1:06:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it definitely felt like a win.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: It felt like a loss.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it ended up it ended up being a win on paper, but it definitely didn't feel like we should have won that game.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_00: So coming into this game, this I think to me, AJ and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but to me, this is gonna be our first indication of how this team responds.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_00: Are they gonna come out lollygag and oh what was us, or are they gonna come out and punch hard and punch fast and and kind of have a statement statement effort where they're gonna come out and say, that's not who we were last week, let's show them who we really are.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_02: Uh the big thing that I think a really strong point for Utah is this is this is a statement win.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_02: This is a top 15 win that early in the season, the youths didn't have any top 25 teams on their schedule.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_02: Houston's Houston's fought their way there.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: You know, when your only losses to Texas Tech, this wasn't supposed, this was supposed to be an on-paper, easy win for Utah.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_02: And and now this team has shown that they can score, they can score often.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, the Houston defense has some holes in it.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_02: The youths have to exploit that.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_02: They've got to go out there, they've got to throw the ball, they've got to keep him honest on the ground.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_02: We've got to get Weyshawn Parker going, just like uh Greg said.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh Weyshawn Parker's got to be that guy that comes out and keeps them honest the whole time.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_02: He's explosive.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, the guy's not scared of the big moment.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm gonna predict a Utah win, but it is gonna be a close one.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say 42-35.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you get you think they're gonna rebound and score over the 30-point mark again.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_02: I do.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: I I think that if their passing defense is as bad as the statistics show, the Utes will get plenty of points in this game.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_02: But I do think that we're gonna get some points scored on us in this game.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_00: I believe there's only one team uh that they faced all year that has more than 310 yards uh passing against them.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_00: So that'll be interesting to see if you can capitalize on that.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, all right, I like it.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_00: I like it.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh we got Greg Hawkins jumping his scoring prediction.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_00: I love that you're playing both sides of the fence here, Greg, but I I see why you're doing it though.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh score prediction, Utah 40 to 5 uh to 42 or 49 to 38 Houston.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_00: So basically, if uh yeah, basically just on whether or not uh the Utes defense shows up is what I'm basically kind of reading from that score, Greg.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_00: Am I right?
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he's saying the Ute score over 30 points either way.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so guys are aligned.
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1:10:00
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1:10:17
SPEAKER_02: Um history will be made this year in Major League Baseball.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_02: The Milwaukee Brewers and the Tampa Bay Rays are just um you know a couple days here from starting the World Series.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_02: Um one of these two franchises is about to make history.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh neither team has ever won a World Series Championship, meaning that after 46 years of waiting for Milwaukee and decades of heartbreak um for Tampa Bay, one fan base is finally going to celebrate its first title.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: So uh the Brewers are coming off a dominant postseason run, knocking off the two-time defending Dodgers in a sweep, uh, while the Rays have fought their way through the American League uh to earn their shot.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: Now it all comes down to one series.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: Um we like to call it the World Series, and um we like to call it that.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: We do, nobody else does though.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_02: So which team has the pitching, the offense, and postseason experience to get this thing done?
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I think what I want to hear from you is who do you want to win the World Series and who do you think will actually win the World Series?
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: And maybe they're the same team.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, who do I want to win?
1:11:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh so there's a time honor tradition in baseball, AJ.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh that you always root for the team that knocked you out.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_00: Right?
1:11:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh for the the saying is that um, well, we could have been the second best team in baseball.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_00: We just got beat by the champs.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_00: Which, by the way, there is actually seven straight years where the Dodgers were actually that was actually true for the Dodgers.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_00: If you beat the Dodgers, you won the World Series.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_00: Like the Braves are one of them.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, going all the way back to I think 2016 with the Cubs.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, whoever beat the Dodgers won the World Series that year, which is kind of fascinating when you think about it.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, stats you hang your head on when you were 0 for you know 30 years for a World Series win.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, um, so yeah, with that said, dude, I think uh, you know, obviously I want I would like the Brewers to win.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh Bob Euchre uh was a broadcasting legend.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_00: Do you know Bob Eucher?
1:12:05
SPEAKER_00: I do not.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay, did you watch okay?
1:12:08
SPEAKER_00: So did you ever watch the um Major League movies?
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_00: About the Cleveland Indians, yeah, sounds right.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, the uh the broadcaster, you know, just uh just a bit high.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I feel like I've seen him, but I don't watch a lot of movies.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_00: So his name is Bob Euchre.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_00: He was actually a uh you may remember him as the dad from Mr.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_00: Beverlier on that TV show.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_00: That was before your time.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh just dated myself there.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: You didn't see that one.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's that hurts.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh that that uh gets me right in my old age feels there.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh he was actually a broadcaster for the Milwaukee Buers for the longest time, one of the best ever to do it.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh passed recently.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_00: Um if you ever get a chance, watch the uh Major League games.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_00: He's like one of the best parts of the whole movie, to be honest with you.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_00: Comedic timing is is brilliant.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: He's great.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I'd love to get them, uh, get them, let them get a win uh for the Buke there.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_00: I think that'd be awesome.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_00: Love their style of play.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_00: Their manager is a class act.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he doesn't care about who you are, what contract you're on.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna play the game the right way, or it's El Bencho for you.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so absolutely love that.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_00: But I think the Rays offense is going to be tough to beat.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_00: You got Junior Cabanero, who should be receiving MVP votes this year, and Yandi Diaz.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_00: This guy is a specimen of a man.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you've seen this dude, but his arms are thicker than my neck.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_00: Um Chandler Simpson is so fast.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's got that Baltimore chop down to a science.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_00: Do you know what a Baltimore chop is?
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: I do not.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_00: It's so when you when you swing at the top, you hit the top of the ball, you drive the ball into the ground, and then it bounces just up over the pitcher's head.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_00: And so you're basically just waiting for the ball to come down.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_00: Second baseman's short baseman's just like, okay, well, and then you're just sprinting down the first baseline.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_00: It's it's a great way to get it into the ball.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_00: Sounds effective, yeah.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this guy is literally if you walk him, he's in scoring position.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_00: This guy is literally that fast.
1:13:55
SPEAKER_00: You know, just it's super awesome.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I think I would prefer for the Brew to win.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but honestly, I do think it's going to be um it comes down to a few things.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_00: One, you know, obviously uh rotation, right?
1:14:10
SPEAKER_00: I think the Brewers have a better one-two punch uh than the Rays, but I think the Rays starting pitching depth is a lot better uh than the Brewers.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_00: I think the Brewers are a team of destiny, uh, but the Rays may have that uh devil magic going on, so we shall see.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would like the I would like the Brewers to win, but I think the Rays are gonna pull it off.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: That'd be pretty cool to see though.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_02: After all the Rays have gone through.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, in the 2020 World Series when they caught a lot of flack for pulling Blake Snell uh third time through the lineup, and sure enough, exactly what happened for them against the Dodgers when Blake Snell was in there third time through the lineup is when he kind of gave it up, gave it up, and gave and the Dodgers lost that game.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_00: It'd be really cool for that franchise to win a World Series and prove that their way of playing baseball can win uh the advanced analytics.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_00: And how what a story, dude.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_00: Two years like they weren't even playing in their stadium.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_00: Two years ago, their stadium was underwater, yeah.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_00: And here they are hosting World Series games in their stadium.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_00: In the trap.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_00: In the trap.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, super awesome.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_00: I love the story, man.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_00: So pretty cool, pretty cool.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_02: It'll be exciting to see.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, the next subject's pretty interesting.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_02: The next subject's pretty interesting, and uh it's obviously the world series here.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_00: Before we get into it, let's hit some of these.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh Greg Hawkins, all about this.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_00: Um, I hate the Brewers, man.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, they're MLB central team for sure.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, I like Bob Euchre though.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, what the heck happened?
1:15:38
SPEAKER_00: What the heck happened, Darren?
1:15:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, definitely we'll get into that next week.
1:15:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I believe what went wrong episode is coming our way.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Greg, if you want to it is, that isn't our future subject.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_00: Let's let us know if you want us to cover uh what the hell went wrong with the with the Cubs as well.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_00: We'd love to do one for you there.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_02: We might have to pull in another mic, Greg.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_02: You can just come hang out with us.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_00: Huge huge lifelong Ray fan over here.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh absolutely, absolutely.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: Lifelong Rays fan.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: Love it.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_00: Have they been around your entire life, Greg?
1:16:08
SPEAKER_00: Or am I really dating myself there too?
1:16:10
SPEAKER_00: Probably.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_00: Probably.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so what were you gonna say there?
1:16:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, so the World Series is here.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, we just talked about it in this conversation that that we're about to get into.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_02: Um it goes beyond like who has a better lineup, who has a better pitching staff, who has the hottest players.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_02: It brings us right back to kind of one of those major leagues, biggest debate, and and really the biggest concern and the biggest topic on a lot of these players' and fans' minds.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's do we need a salary cap, right?
1:16:40
SPEAKER_02: Because for years the owners have argued that salary cap is necessary, it creates competitive balance, control spending, um, and it gives smaller market teams a fair shot at winning a championship.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, but when you look at the playoffs, the two teams competing for a World Series title, that doesn't that doesn't really match up.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_02: Um so it's it's raising some serious questions about this argument.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_02: Um so are we seeing proof that spending money is the key to winning, or does this matchup show that smart management, player development, building the right roster matter more than simply having the biggest budget Dodgers?
1:17:18
SPEAKER_02: And um technically not true.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_02: And with major league labor negotiations looming, the World Series could provide a ton of ammunition for both sides of the salary cap debate.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_02: So does this World Series hurt the argument that is being had by the owners right now, Darren?
1:17:33
SPEAKER_00: I I think absolutely, and let's let's stop pretending that that this is about competitive balance, right?
1:17:38
SPEAKER_00: Let's stop pretending that the the reason why MLB, and let's be honest here, the MLB, the owners want a salary cap.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_00: All these owners are crying poor.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_00: Some of them are crying that they're just trying to break even, and some say the Dodgers are ruining baseball, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
1:17:54
SPEAKER_00: Technically, the Dodgers don't even have the highest pay active payroll this season.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_00: That's technically the New York Mets.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_00: If you're taking the deferrals and some of the luxury tax, yes, the Dodgers will be in the top there because there are multiple repeat offenders, but technically, active salary.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_00: The Dodgers aren't even in the top payroll.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_02: Leave it to the Dodgers fan to negotiate your way out of that one.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, what what would you consider?
1:18:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, what would you consider?
1:18:16
SPEAKER_00: Salary deferrals, Derek.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_00: Salary deferrals.
1:18:18
SPEAKER_00: You don't you're not an economics major, you don't understand the time value of money.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I can't count to seven.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_00: So the mic, so money today is worth more than money tomorrow, that whole concept.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's you know, basically why they again can't count to seven.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_00: So that's why Shoe He Otani's$700 million contract is only worth$430 million in active real money.
1:18:36
SPEAKER_02: In active, yeah.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that makes sense.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, let's keep going.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_00: Keep going with your point, Dodgers fan.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, moving on from the whole Dodgers thing.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, you're good.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: Keep going.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: What did I miss something?
1:18:54
SPEAKER_00: No, you just moving on from the Dodgers thing.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_00: Moving on from the whole Dodgers thing.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, there's just there's, you know, been seven 17 different this year.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_00: There will be 17 different World Series champions since the year 2000.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_00: 17 different teams have won the World Series, AJ.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's most of any of the four professional sports out there.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_00: The NFL and the NHL are uh tied for second, uh, with the second most, which is 13, and the NBA has 12.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, so committed balance really isn't the point.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_00: You just hear point.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: Like it's obvious, you know, when it came to the we talked about this during the bye week.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_00: Three out of the four teams that have the bye week were in the bottom 15, bottom half of the payroll, you know, and when it comes to it, like it's just not the right argument to have.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_00: The real reason, AJ, why MLB, and let's be honest about this, it's not MLB, it's the owners of Major League Baseball labs.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_00: Is they want salary cap because it creates fixed costs for their operations.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_00: When you install fixed costs for operations when your team valuations are already going up year over year over year, what does that do?
1:20:04
SPEAKER_00: It skyrockets those evaluations.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_00: A little inside info when it comes to baseball.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_00: For those who are just casual fans out there, you talk to anybody who knows the front offices of any of these teams, these teams are set day one before the season starts.
1:20:18
SPEAKER_00: Each one of them are sitting on because baseball has the best, the best collective bargaining out there.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_00: Because these teams have teams like the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets who are willing to go into the luxury tax and pay a hundred million dollars in luxury tax fees.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_00: And that money gets broken up and dispersed to the other teams in the league.
1:20:37
unknown: Right?
1:20:38
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_00: Each one of these teams, we talked about it several times with this show, they start the season with almost a hundred million dollars in competitive tax revenue and shared TV revenue every season, right?
1:20:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and some of these teams they'll claim, oh, that's not enough.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_00: We're still poor, we're still doing that.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, you could take that$100 million and put it into your teams, like into your roster.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_00: But no, what you're gonna do is you're gonna take that money and you're gonna build it into a minor league uh facility or a new restaurant that you have on the plan on the land that you own around your team.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_00: Perfect example is that is the battery.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_00: When it comes to the Braves, the Braves are actually known as not really a baseball team, they're a real estate company that owns a baseball team.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_00: That's what the Braves are treated like.
1:21:21
SPEAKER_00: That's what it feels like.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_00: So they could easily compete with the Dodgers.
1:21:25
SPEAKER_00: In fact, they probably could blow their payroll out of the out of the water and it wouldn't affect them.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_00: Because after baseball season's over, they are making bang on those restaurants and entertainment venues that they have on that side.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: All year long.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_00: All year long.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_00: So it is nothing to do with competitive value, it all has to do with uh team evaluations.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_00: Is it predicted that if a salary cap is put in place in Major League Baseball, each team's annual evaluation goes up 25 to 35 percent overnight, AJ?
1:21:55
SPEAKER_00: And we're talking billions of dollars these teams are worth.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_00: So you're talking about at least hundreds, hundreds of millions of dollars for even the pirates if they get this passed.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_00: That's the real reason why they want a salary cap.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_00: It has absolutely nothing to do with competitive balance.
1:22:09
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely none.
1:22:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think that's exactly it.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_02: And and I think it goes to show you because because of competitive balance, and that's like this this big thing for these owners, is we can't spend as much money, blah, blah, blah.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: You got two teams in the World Series this year that are both in the bottom half of spending this year.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I believe, yeah, bottom ten.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh even further.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:22:31
SPEAKER_02: So um it it's all about what are you putting into your teams, how are you investing this money into your teams.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, and and if owners would start investing money into winning, like teams like the Dodgers have done, like teams like the Mets.
1:22:45
SPEAKER_02: The Mets, even though they didn't win, they invested a ton of money into winning, right?
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: They went out and got a ton of players that could on paper potentially help them win baseball games, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
1:22:57
SPEAKER_02: That that's that's your job is in order to look at front office moves and who's coaching these guys and and all the other stuff, but you have to like you have to see that a salary cap's not going to help.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_02: The players are never going to agree to it.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_02: Why would they want there to be any reason for you to be able to cap what how many players you can pay on a specific MLB roster?
1:23:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like the players want to protect the top earners.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_00: They want to make sure there's an X One Soto, they want to make sure there's an ex-Otani, next judge, right?
1:23:27
SPEAKER_00: That's they have to the reason why they're doing that.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, the last MLB proposal even mentioned having a salary floor where each of the bottom teams, uh, their minimum salary is at least two million dollars, right?
1:23:38
SPEAKER_00: The team the players will argue all the time that they're caring about everybody.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're really caring about the top earners.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_00: If you really cared about everybody, you'd be okay with a salary floor.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_00: And you'd be willing to take a salary cap.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, so we'll see, man.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's more to talk about.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_00: We did have the latest proposal from Major League Baseball.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_00: Did you hear about this one?
1:23:57
SPEAKER_02: I did not see this one.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so there's a new proposal from Major League Baseball when it comes to uh their proposal before they do it.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_00: And what I love about this is this is the first time that they're just using their own social media, just saying, this is what we presented to the players.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_00: Here you go.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_00: So the world gets to see it before the players association reacts to it.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_00: So they're using, they're getting smart, man.
1:24:15
SPEAKER_00: They're using social media to their own and you know, take your cat to them, you know.
1:24:18
SPEAKER_02: It's about time, you know.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_02: It's about time because it's funny because the players association, after they get it, they can spin however they want.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:24:25
SPEAKER_00: Get me wrong, man.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_00: On this show, we're definitely on the player side, not the owner's side.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_00: We're all definitely capitalism all the way, all the way, right?
1:24:32
SPEAKER_00: But in all reality, it's not the owners that are, you know, you know, bringing butts to the seats.
1:24:37
SPEAKER_00: It's the players.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, anytime you're trying to lie about your situation to make more money off these players, I'm gonna call bull, I'm gonna call bullshit on it.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_02: Um, so and we're an hour and 30 minutes in, so you can call bullshit if you want.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_00: Well, are we?
1:24:50
SPEAKER_00: It's 15 minutes into the baseball stuff, though.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter.
1:24:53
SPEAKER_00: It's all right, it's all good.
1:24:54
SPEAKER_00: I'll pretend that I didn't forget to bleep it.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_00: You can just bleep it.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do that.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I've gotten really good at bleeping, though.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_00: When have we ever needed to bleep something?
1:25:02
SPEAKER_02: I had to bleep something like two episodes ago where I was like, I'm gonna have to bleep that.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, fair enough.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh so the latest proposal for Major League Baseball is to actually shorten the regular season to 155 154 games.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_00: Instead of 162 games season.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_02: So you cut eight games out.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but you expand the playoffs.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_00: Great.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_00: So no more wildcard round where you're where it's like two out of three.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a full five?
1:25:29
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be a three to five series, and then the divisional series is gonna be a seven-game series.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_00: I actually love that.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_00: Do you think you would have had a better shot against the Dodgers in a seven-game versus a five?
1:25:41
SPEAKER_02: No, but well, yeah, absolutely.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:25:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you you have one more chance to get Chris Sale on the mound.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes, but you also have.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_00: That didn't go out well for you guys in the first time.
1:25:52
SPEAKER_00: I know, but that doesn't mean he's gonna I just mean outside of Chris Sale, you still have three other games.
1:25:57
SPEAKER_02: The Braves were a hot mess all on their own.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_00: I just mean like the the better the better roster is always gonna prevail in a longer series.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh in this case, you know, unless, you know, but unless you're the Dodgers and you're playing the Brewers, then you just, you know, that's baseball.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about that.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_02: Just get out the brooms.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, hey, you know, that's baseball, man.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: It's baseball.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_00: People have a lot of people ask me, hey Darren, why are you so like dumb down in the dungeons?
1:26:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, we've won three out of the last six.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's kind of like it's okay, you know.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_00: You're not I'm not chasing the first one in 30 years, you know.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's it's it's a little different.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: The Braves got one of the last six.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_00: You know?
1:26:31
SPEAKER_00: 2021.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll take it.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_00: They're in that lineup, by the way.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_00: You beat the Dodgers, you win the World Series.
1:26:35
SPEAKER_00: They're there.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_00: Go Braves.
1:26:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so anyway, folks, we want to cover this in a little bit more detail down the road.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna hit a little all the new changes that are coming from Major League.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_00: Especially as more details come out.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: Like that's the thing, is this is gonna be content that uh as these negotiations start coming and we get more details.
1:26:51
SPEAKER_02: This is the type of stuff that we want to keep you updated on.
1:26:56
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_00: More fun stuff to come on the offseason.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_00: We'll cover everything when it comes to lockout, but more importantly, we want to still talk ball and we want to talk world series.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, who you got coming out of this one?
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think the brewers are gonna win it.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_00: You think the brewers are pulling out?
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: I I do.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: I hate the brewers like Greg, lifelong Race fan.
1:27:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, but I do think the brewers I do think the brewers are going to win it.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude, it's just their team of destiny, man.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, dude, have you seen this race team play baseball?
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: I have, I have, and the Rays are the Rays are great, but it's just crazy.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_00: I feel like the Brewers just have a little bit more uh they got they both have like an old school way of playing baseball, but the brewers are more old school slap, yeah, happy baseball, and the rays are more analytical and making them that's a great way to say it too.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think that's exactly what it is.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_02: It's like the the brewers are just a little bit more old school, move runners over, get base hits.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: Like let's win this game no matter what it takes.
1:27:56
SPEAKER_02: And there's not too much pride on that team.
1:27:58
SPEAKER_02: Um that's who I think is gonna win.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love it.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we want to hear from you folks.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
1:28:05
SPEAKER_00: We'd love to chat with you uh in the in the comments.
1:28:07
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got a couple comments here we want to hit from Greg.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's see here.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_00: The payroll argument uh took a major hit this year, actually.
1:28:15
SPEAKER_00: I agree on that point.
1:28:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just it's just baseball, dude.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the Mets didn't even make the postseason this year, and they are technically the highest payroll active payroll in baseball.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_00: The Yankees were knocked out of the divisional round, they got swept out by the Red Sox, I believe.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_00: And they're in the top five of payroll.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like Phillies, they got knocked out by the Braves, they're in the top five of payroll.
1:28:37
SPEAKER_00: You know, Padres, they're in the top seven, I believe, in payroll, or I got those swapped with the Phillies, but they got knocked out early.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_00: Sure, paying money, paying players does help you get in the playoffs for sure.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_00: Not gonna argue that.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't mean a lick when it comes to scoring runs or actually getting anywhere.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:28:53
SPEAKER_00: Got a chat, I got a comment from uh friend of the channel, Tammy Price.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_00: Brewers are a good team.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_00: Hate them, but happy for them.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_00: Kind of perfect.
1:29:01
SPEAKER_00: Couldn't have said any better itself.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_04: Great answer.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_00: Great answer.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, we got another comment here from Greg Hawkins.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, would love to join you in the studio for a post-world two show.
1:29:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, if invited, lol.
1:29:12
SPEAKER_00: Dude, no worries there, man.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll make sure we get the invite out.
1:29:14
SPEAKER_00: We'll get that figured out.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh, if we can swing it, we'd have to figure it out.
1:29:18
SPEAKER_00: There's some logistical stuff we got to figure out on that one.
1:29:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, as well as uh we gotta figure out how the mics.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: We'd have to go wireless mic for Greg, but then can we link it here?
1:29:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, there's there's a little bit of uh IT stuff on the stuff.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_02: This is very much set up for two people, but yeah, we'll we'll figure it out.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_00: And if we can't figure it out, buddy, we'll figure it out.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:29:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe we can just have you join remote.
1:29:41
SPEAKER_00: You know, who knows?
1:29:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a good idea.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_00: We can possibly do that.
1:29:43
SPEAKER_00: We can possibly do that.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_02: That'd be a good idea too.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_00: Once again, folks, we'll love to hear from you in the comments down below.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh join us uh in the chat there.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_00: Join us in the comments down below, let us know what your thoughts are when it comes to everything we talked about today.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_00: Love to hear from you.
1:29:55
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1:30:01
SPEAKER_00: With all that said, my name is Darren.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_00: That is AJ, and this has been an episode of the DNA sports recap.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_00: Till next time.