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Hobby Opinions! Turn Back The Clock With DoubleD Vintage Baseball Cards & Splendid Sports · Sports Card Clubhouse

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  All right, Dylan, I forget what episode of Turn Back the Clock.
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  This is it. It's in the 40s.
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  But more importantly, right now this is number one on the sports
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  card Clubhouse podcast network, Turn Back the Clock, first
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  episode there. How we doing?
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  I'm doing excellent. I'm really excited to hang out
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  with you, Adam, Talk some cards and talk whatever we talked
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  about tonight. Yeah, I got some fun, fun little
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  topics here. We're going to probably go for
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  30 to 45 minutes. I got some interesting opinion
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  based stuff that I'm I want to get your thoughts on.
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  I'll give my thoughts on. I do want to do a shout out that
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  I don't know. Did you happen to watch today is
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  Thursday? This video will probably be
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  coming out on Friday tomorrow. Did you watch Shane Shoebox
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  Shoebox Legends video from today?
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  Best best video I love Shane put his put some words out and his
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  opinions out and it was from the heart.
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  I I made a post right when he I got up like 4 morning to my arm
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  and man I was blown away. Yeah, I, I texted him I, I love
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  the video. I mean, I, I, I, Shane's our
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  friend, so I, I like all his videos, but this one, I really
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  liked his psychology about everything he was talking about.
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  And it really, he made such a good point where he was talking.
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  I, I'm going to put a link to that video in the in this one.
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  I recommend everyone watch it if they haven't.
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  But he made such a good point that even if you're not into
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  like following the value of your collection, you know, once you
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  buy a card, a lot of people don't care what it's what it's
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  worth or what it becomes. And I understand that.
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  I've been there. But in a market like this, if
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  you're trying to improve your collection, it does actually
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  benefit you to keep an eye on certain cards.
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  Because I can tell you there's been situations where I didn't
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  know a card I had in my collection, like skyrocketed in
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  value and I maybe missed a window here and there where I I
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  might have sold it or, but I ended up not selling it, or
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  maybe I could have downgraded it.
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  So I thought he made a great point of as to the value of even
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  if you're not always interested in, it does help you keep an eye
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  on things sometimes in in case you might want to, you know,
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  take some money off the table and put it into something
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  different. Dude, yeah, he nailed it.
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  And he doesn't do that many, if ever, like, opinionated from the
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  heart videos on subjects like that.
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  And to me, when he speaks, I listen because he's so
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  knowledgeable in this hobby. And the way he talked about how
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  some of his cards that he bought in the past that no one
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  collected have become worth so much.
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  How much money is sitting there? Free money that you can apply to
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  your collection today. And it really hit the spot for
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  me too because me and him text like you too.
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  And and I've been looking at my cards a lot differently too.
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  Now I'm not a card ladder guy. I don't want to follow the
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  track. I don't ever want to look at my
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  collection, click a button and say it's worth 20,000 today and
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  10,000 tomorrow and 30,000 next day.
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  That's for my stock account. I don't want that in my baseball
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  cards. I will never use a company like
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  card ladder. I mean never say never, but I do
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  text sometimes I'll text you like hey can you give me a comp
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  for this? I don't know what it is but to
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  me I don't want that to happen. But I definitely pay attention
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  to value for the exact reason Shane's talking.
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  Every once in a while you go through your cards and I have
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  like a 1951 tops worn spawn in apsa 8 on my wall.
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  An old cert. Why on earth do I need APSA 8
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  1951 tops worn spawn that has rounded corners when I have twos
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  that look exactly the same? So I see an extra $350.00 in
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  that card that I can put towards another card, and I don't want
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  all that money sunk into a worn spawn 51 tops anyways.
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  And I bought that so long ago, probably for less than $100.
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  It's just nice to know that. But you know, I don't need card
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  ladder. Tell me that, but I get it why
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  people use that because I would get notices probably across my
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  board right like oh that card too.
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  Wow, I could do that with that one.
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  I could. I mean I thought about doing it
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  with the 2001. I have a 2001 tops traded right
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  here. Gold eat your own pool holes and
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  apsa 9, I think skyrocketed in value.
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  I've thought about taking that money, you know, selling it,
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  buying an 8, take an extra 2 grand, buying that, buying an 8
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  back and having two extra $1000 to spend.
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  That runs through my head. I'm not going to do that with
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  that card, but I am going to do with the spawn and I have a huge
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  stack of others. So I was intrigued by that video
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  and I think you you nailed it on the ad.
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  I'm glad you. I'm glad you brought that up.
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  Yeah, and, and specifically too, I didn't mention this, but he,
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  when he was talking about, you know, cards that he hadn't
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  looked at in forever, you know, so I thought that that hit home
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  with me too, because I have, I have those two where it's like,
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  I mean, you got this awesome wall there where you look at a
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  lot of your cards. I have cards that I, I don't
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  look at really, you know, so that that really struck A chord
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  too. And especially if they've gone
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  up a lot in value, if I'm not looking at them and I've gone up
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  a lot in value, it's, it's, it's good to know.
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  And I, I do like card ladder. I have to admit, I, I like not
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  so much of like what's the total value of my collection that that
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  has that feature, but it does have a lot of other collector
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  features, which I really, I really like it.
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  I'm having some fun with it so. Well, I know that you do.
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  You know, you have all your images in one location.
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  All the lists are, I think it's spectacular.
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  And if I could click, you know, click my finger and I had all
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  the images up and everything, I would use that.
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  If I didn't see the values, I really don't want to see the
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  values change on a daily basis. It it would mess with my mind
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  too much where I would, the opposite would happen to me.
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  I would see a card and be like, man, maybe I should sell that
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  right now. I don't want to time the market
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  on my baseball cards. Then you can.
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  Turn that feature off too just so good they did that because
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  you're you're not alone with that you know a lot of people
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  don't want to get an e-mail everyday or look at and and see
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  Oh my value went up or down yeah so that's that's a nice part is
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  you can customize it however you'd want to use it basically
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  that's. Pretty interesting, you know?
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  See, that's why I never say never, you know?
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  I have a. More.
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  Next, I just have a couple quick things that I got to make.
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  Obviously, you know, like I mentioned, this is on the Sports
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  Card Clubhouse Network, the first podcast ever on the
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  network Surface issues with Mike and Greg.
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  There's been 2 episodes out so far of that.
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  And in episode 2, you were mentioned by Mike.
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  I have to, I have to mention this.
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  I don't. Did you hear the pie?
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  I could not believe this. Mike couldn't remember and he
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  was serious. He couldn't remember if you like
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  centered cards or don't like centered cards.
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  And Greg was surprised as well. Mike, if you watch this, which I
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  think you might, what's going on, man?
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  Yeah. How can you not know if Dylan
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  like centered cards? Like everyone knows that man.
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  Here's the best part about Mike in that story.
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  I mean, Mike watches any of my videos.
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  I love Mike. He's an awesome guy.
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  But we were at the National like a year ago.
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  We were both hunting for the 1948, Oh no, 1941 play ball.
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  Ted Williams. I had seen a couple and he came
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  up to me. I ran into him and and I go, he
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  said, oh, have you seen any of those?
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  And I go, yeah, there's one over there, but it's too far off
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  centered for my for my taste, too far off centered.
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  I told him he went over there and bought it.
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  So I know he he, he thinks he's a centering guy.
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  He's not as crazy as me. I'm a full blown centering guy.
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  I didn't buy that copy because it wasn't dead centered so.
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  I I thought everyone knew you were a centering guy.
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  Me. Too.
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  I was. I was he.
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  He knew you were like a something guy.
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  You were known for something, but he wasn't sure if it was off
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  centered or said in a in a parallel universe.
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  In a parallel universe, Dylan's like an off centered guy.
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  Like he's he. He sold all the centered cards
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  and he's going after the the miscut cards.
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  So good. All right, next, the next quick
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  point too. They mentioned their favorite or
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  or least favorite, a favorite bottled water and they Mike
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  wasn't familiar with Arrowhead water And because it's a when I
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  lived in Arizona, notoriously it was terrible.
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  Arrowhead water was like one out of every two bottles.
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  You get to be open it up and it smells like a sewer.
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  Horrible. I don't know how they.
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  I don't understand how anyone drinks that stuff.
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  When Greg said that, I had that in my head.
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  I go he's got tell me Arrowhead, say Arrowhead, how is how can
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  anyone drink that crap? Bad, bad water.
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  I don't know how they get away with putting it out still, I
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  don't know who's buying it. And really, guys, you know, we
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  shouldn't be drinking any bottled water.
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  Plastic is not good for us, right?
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  We should be drinking out of a glass glass bottle or one of
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  those like, you know, safe things, filtered water.
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  But that's my take on water. But yeah, there you go.
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  All right, the next next quick thing I wanted to get your
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  opinion on. So you know, this is gonna be
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  going out as a podcast. It will also be going out on the
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  YouTube channel too, Sports Card Clubhouse, but it will be going
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  out on the podcast. First, I want to get your
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  thoughts. I, I was listening to sports
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  card dad had Jeff Wilson on his channel recently and Jeff Jeff
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  was saying how they put almost no thought or effort into their
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  podcast, sports card investor podcast.
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  All their, you know, marketing and attention and everything
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  goes towards the YouTube channel.
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  And you know, part of his reasoning was it's just such a
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  small podcast audience in his opinion, along with other
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  things. But what do you, what do you, I
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  want to get your take on that because when I first met you,
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  you were always talking about how you were always a podcast
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  guy. And I was too, before I ever got
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  on YouTube. Here I was.
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  I never never really use YouTube that much at all, but I did
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  listen a ton of podcasts and I still do.
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  So I've, I've always kind of been a podcast first guy.
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  What do you? What's your take on that?
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  I take it is that the audience that watches Jeff Wilson is a
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  younger audience and I think the younger crowd wants the visuals,
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  wants, wants the hoopla, wants all that.
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  And I think the older crowd like us in our 40 sums, you know, we,
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  I'm a listener like put it on, put put my headphones in and get
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  other stuff done while I'm listening to people talk about
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  cards. So like when Greg does his
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  videos, he does like 7 videos a week.
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  I can, I listen to every single one because I would rather
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  listen to someone talk about baseball cards.
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  Even though I know Greg's position on so many things, I'm
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  still intrigued by it. So I, I just think the podcast
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  thing is just kind of a different generation possibly.
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  I mean, I could be wrong there, but it's also, I don't know how
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  much money he could possibly make making a podcast.
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  So he, you know, he's getting paid by YouTube.
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  I don't know anything behind it, but for me with YouTube, I'm a
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  long format guy. I do not like short videos.
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  You know, I don't like short, short car videos, OK, You know,
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  like 20 minutes. I like 20 minutes.
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  I hate clicking on one and it's 5 minutes and then I got to go
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  find something else. I want to sit in my card room
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  and pop it on and just listen to people talk about cards, even if
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  I don't even like what they're saying or they're talking about
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  grading again. Everybody's all like everyone
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  gets up in arms about, oh, they're talking about the same
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  thing again. Of course we are.
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  This is what we do. We love.
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  I love to hear people's thoughts on grading, even if I've heard
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  it 1000 times. I want to hear about, I appeal.
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  I want to hear about this and this.
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  And, and if I don't, I mean, it's just in my ear.
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  I'm not wasting any of my time. It's just there.
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  I don't have to like tune into every single word.
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  I really find it fascinating. And a little side note, like
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  I've read a couple of comments on Greg's channel is he's pretty
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  big and he gets so much Flack from people like this.
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  Again, why are you doing this? And I'm thinking in my head,
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  it's his freaking channel. He can talk about anything you
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  want until now. Anyone's going to get pissed off
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  and leave comments in this message.
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  I'm just telling you my thoughts and opinions.
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  These are my personal thoughts and opinions.
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  If you want to leave comments like that, that's that's fine.
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  I just don't understand the point.
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  If you, if I build something up and I spend three years and I do
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  dedicate 10 hours a week, he's decadating probably 20 hours a
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  week to something and he wants to talk about something.
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  By all means, talk about anything you want.
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  And then also side note, having your friends on your own channel
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  and the same guys over and over again, Hallelujah, they are your
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  friends. We all come on YouTube and we
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  make little clicks, right? And they're not clicks that we
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  don't want other people in, Not at all.
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  I have new people that pop up in on YouTube and I become friends
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  with them instantly because the way they collect or how they
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  talk about cards or how their videos are.
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  And I want to have those guys on my channel.
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  I invite my friends on my channel because they're my
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  friends. I'm not here to make $1,000,000.
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  I'm here to hang out with my friends.
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  So when I see comments like that as well, oh, same guys over and
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  over. You know there is a place or
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  collectors, if you reach out to them, you can go on their
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  channel. You can be on any channel you
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  want If you make that effort, if you start making your own videos
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  and your own tag team like Jason everyday card collector as a
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  buddy, he goes on and then he does it with Sammy and everyone
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  has their little group. I don't want to have people on
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  the show. Like I'm not going to invite
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  people on my live stream. I have no idea who they are.
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  I want to talk to my friend. So I get that side of it too and
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  it just bothers me that everyone just gangs up on guys like Gray
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  or guys that have over seems like over 5000 followers.
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  I don't get those type of things on mine, but he gets them and it
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  just it doesn't make sense in my own brain.
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  I don't get it. I I hear what you're saying and
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  so wait a minute, you're saying you don't like my 5 or 8 minute
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  videos that I do once a month where I you know what?
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  I'm like, come on, dude. Well, here's here's the thing,
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  here's the thing that this This is why I love doing this with
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  you is cuz I could talk to you for hours, man, you know, but
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  when I'm on by myself, I love you.
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  Could you could go for an hour by yourself or two hours by
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  yourself? And you're great at it.
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  And me, I just don't, I don't know, I, when I'm, when I'm just
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  there by myself, I have a hard time and I'm just like, that's
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  it after 8 minutes. But so I, I guess I just like
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  talking with, you know, my, like you said, my friends like you.
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  And maybe that's why the podcast thing is, is a good fit for me
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  because a lot of those are going to be conversations, you know,
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  and I kind of like that. But I, I hear what you're saying
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  and with the podcast thing, you know, 'cause that's, I think
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  during COVID when everyone was at home, right?
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  And you could sit at home and watch YouTube videos more than a
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  lot of people can now. A lot of people now it's kind of
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  like back to the old days where they're driving to work.
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  So they're trying to listen to something.
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  You can't really watch it while you're driving.
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  Or, you know, if you squeeze in some time, you know, you
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  generally can squeeze in a podcast if you're mowing the
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  lawn or something like that. So I think you're right.
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  I think it has a lot to do with the age range.
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  I'm thinking, you know, I don't know, I'm sure there's numbers
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  out there of the the prime podcast age range where maybe
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  it's like, you know, 40 to 55 or something like that.
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  You know, you see like the Joe Rogan podcast where he's got
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  millions and millions. So there's definitely people who
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  listen to podcast. I think it's just, yeah, that
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  maybe the the younger crowd hasn't gone into the podcast
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  realm as much yet. Then you know, the 20 somethings
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  or whatever that more so than like the 40 somethings where
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  podcast might be more up our alley based on our lifestyle and
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  all the things we're doing throughout the day.
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  Yeah, and, and you know, a lot of us, you know, 40 thumbs have
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  been collecting cards a long time.
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  So you don't need to see every single card.
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  We don't need to watch every video.
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  We, we know what they're talking about.
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  We know exactly what card they're Speaking of and we can
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  picture it. So a lot of that can go into it
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  as well. Well, that's a perfect lead into
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  my next question for you because this this has kind of been a
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  topic I've seen in a few videos recently.
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  I want to get your take. What is, in your opinion, what's
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  the reason why videos were on YouTube, Sports card YouTube
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  videos where someone is talking about their collection, you
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  know, they, they may be showing cards, but even ones where
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  they're just talking about like for example, I went on Victor's,
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  the rookie card specialist channel and we did a video and
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  it was a longer video. It was probably close to an
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  hour. So, you know, those tend to
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  obviously not get as many views and and things like that as as
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  much attention as like a video that might be 12 minutes or 15
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  minutes based on the algorithm and people's attention spans.
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  But you know, we talked about my collection, you know, my Tom
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  Brady collection and my complete run of his rookie cards.
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  And I don't know how many views it got maybe a few hundred
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  couple 100 views, right. And that and that's pretty
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  standard. That's I think what you expect
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  when you make a video like that where it's like a deep dive
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  where you talk about your collection or even a video where
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  you're just showing pickups or a big pickup.
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  Those don't get nearly as many views as a video where someone's
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  talking about the hobby or talking about investing or
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  opinions on the hobby. A rant, so to speak.
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  When I first got onto YouTube, a lot of people were saying it's
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  all about the cards. People are here for the cards,
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  they want to see the cards, but yet the numbers don't back that
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  up. So what?
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  What do we make of this? I mean, it's kind of simple.
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  It it's the same thing goes back to like the podcast.
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  You like to watch a video showing cards.
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  Like that's what I do on my my channel.
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  You know, I'm not getting thousands of views on my show
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  and tells. It's more for me less than it is
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  for people watching. I just enjoy the show and tell
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  aspect. And I think for us collectors,
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  there's like there's a certain number of guys that I really
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  want them to watch my channel because they're my good friends
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  and they collect like me and we root for each other's things.
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  So you have those little core, you have the little core
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  audience that comes and watches, but the rest, you know, you can
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  just pop it in your headphones and you don't have to watch.
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  And everyone always talks about like when we do these lives and
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  everyone's like in the chat, show a card already show a card.
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  We don't even care because we can't even see the damn card,
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  especially if I'm doing the video because I'm all blurry.
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  It's I like showing cards. That's the funnest part about
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  it. As a as someone who's on a show,
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  I love showing my collection, but I can talk about it just as
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  easily and it's just as effective and more so because
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  you can just listen to it. Everybody knows what these cards
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  look like and I can discuss the I appeal.
• 19:04
  That's why I like when I'll do a video.
• 19:06
  I dive really deep into every aspect of the card.
• 19:09
  So if you are listening and you choose to listen, you can listen
• 19:13
  and you can just get just as much out of it.
• 19:16
  It's one of those things, videos showing cards, you have to sit
• 19:19
  there and you have to watch where when you're just talking
• 19:23
  you can just pop it in your head and listen.
• 19:25
  So it's an easier listen then it's more work required for
• 19:28
  those videos where it's a visual video where you got to actually
• 19:30
  watch it. Now let me take a step further
• 19:33
  because I totally agree with you.
• 19:34
  I, I watch all your videos and I watch the ones where you're
• 19:39
  showing a pickup. I am interested in what you're
• 19:41
  picking up. I, I like to see what you're
• 19:43
  doing with your collection because I'm your friend.
• 19:45
  Now, do you think it's that? Do you think it's that if you're
• 19:49
  friends with someone, you're interested in what they're doing
• 19:51
  their collection? But let's say someone stumbles
• 19:53
  upon a video of me showing my Tom Brady collection or you
• 19:57
  showing you know your Japanese baseball card pickups if they
• 20:00
  don't know us. And they not our friends, should
• 20:03
  they even care? Like why would they?
• 20:05
  They I could see them caring about opinions, right, because
• 20:07
  it's interesting. But if they don't know us from
• 20:10
  it, from Adam, right? Why would they care about what
• 20:14
  we're doing with our collection? Is that is that kind of the root
• 20:16
  of why those views don't show up as much as the other type of
• 20:20
  videos? Yeah, and and in in all reality,
• 20:23
  I mean, so I go through phases, right?
• 20:26
  Sometimes I want to find little videos, 20 minute long videos
• 20:31
  and watch people that I, you know, I'm not super close with,
• 20:36
  but I enjoy how they talk about each card they get.
• 20:41
  So it all comes down to whether the guy is just going this is a
• 20:44
  1960 tops Roberto Clemente, this is a 1972 top so and so, or a
• 20:52
  guy who takes the card and and talks about it.
• 20:57
  Why did he buy this card? Why, why he that entered his
• 21:01
  collection? Then I'm intrigued and I want to
• 21:04
  look at that card. It wasn't the I appeal.
• 21:06
  Is that why he bought it or was it because it fit his set?
• 21:09
  That's what's interesting to me and how the personality of the
• 21:13
  person is the most important thing, right?
• 21:15
  I, I don't want to just have a, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 21:20
  I want someone excited. I want an energetic person.
• 21:24
  I want them to just talk deeply. They don't have to talk fast
• 21:28
  like me. They can talk like Eric, those
• 21:30
  backpages, slow, steady, precise, they know what they're
• 21:34
  talking about. I love that stuff.
• 21:37
  I just want to feel the passion and it all comes down to what
• 21:42
  mood I'm in when I watch a video.
• 21:44
  Do I want to watch a video and watch somebody share their cards
• 21:48
  or do I want to listen to someone talk about their cards?
• 21:53
  It's kind of kind of like that, you know, in opinion videos, we
• 21:57
  all want to watch a train wreck. I say dumb things all the time.
• 21:59
  I know a lot of people probably watch, you know, listen to turn
• 22:03
  back the Clock just to hear me say something stupid.
• 22:05
  So it's, it's one of those things, right?
• 22:07
  Well, and you know, I will say what's interesting because I've
• 22:09
  done both type of videos, you know, video where I talk about
• 22:13
  the hobby, give opinion, stuff like that, and those will get
• 22:15
  more views. But then when I'll do a video
• 22:17
  where it's like a deep dive on a, you know, a 90s parallel or
• 22:21
  I'll, I'll talk about a Tom Brady card or, or, you know,
• 22:24
  it's more of a deep dive, smaller views, smaller audience,
• 22:27
  But I tend to get more people reaching out to me, like
• 22:30
  messages on Instagram that connect over, Hey, I love that
• 22:34
  card too. Or I was waiting for someone to
• 22:36
  talk about that. You know, maybe you'll get five
• 22:38
  of those, whereas you do a broader video and you get more
• 22:41
  views in this comments, but the comments kind of aren't as
• 22:44
  connecting. You know, it's more of just like
• 22:46
  negative or positive, but like I'll get actually people
• 22:48
  reaching out to me when I get real specific about Pacific
• 22:52
  cards, stuff like that, where it's like, you know, where
• 22:54
  there's a cult following of those type of things.
• 22:56
  So I think, I think you can connect with people in different
• 23:00
  ways, even with a, with a, you know, smaller video or a more
• 23:04
  deep dive than even some of those view, you know, the videos
• 23:08
  that might get over 1000 views. You might not, you know, you
• 23:12
  might not connect with people as you would with a a, you know,
• 23:15
  more specific type video. Yeah, and I want to give some
• 23:18
  encouragement out to guys that we all started somewhere on
• 23:22
  YouTube. I started with 0 followers.
• 23:25
  I didn't plan on growing fast or slow.
• 23:28
  That wasn't my intention. My intention on my very first
• 23:32
  video was I wanted to put my opinions out in the card world
• 23:36
  I've been in my whole life. That's why I did it and I wanted
• 23:39
  to share my collection. I didn't know if people were
• 23:41
  going to like my videos or not. Like, and the friends I've made,
• 23:45
  those are the ones, you know, those are like my core little
• 23:48
  group. But I'm friend with everyone in
• 23:50
  the, in the space. But it's like one of those
• 23:53
  things. So when a new guy comes along
• 23:55
  and they've been doing it for like 6 months and I could
• 23:58
  understand why they, you know, they'll get 50 views.
• 24:01
  We all started that way. I didn't get thousands of views
• 24:04
  out of the gate or 100 views out of the gate.
• 24:07
  And it's not about that. You're never going to make money
• 24:10
  making sports card content. It's not going to happen.
• 24:14
  Maybe for the very exclusive, whatever.
• 24:16
  I don't even know if it's possible to really make it.
• 24:19
  Like maybe daddy makes some money because he's selling like
• 24:22
  what? He's selling like cereal bars
• 24:24
  now or something. Or dad what?
• 24:27
  Daddy's selling cereal bars. I see.
• 24:29
  I think it's magic spoon magic spoon serial.
• 24:33
  I got to say I like I, I, I I like Dustin.
• 24:36
  I've I watched a video just today.
• 24:38
  He he seems like a guy that, you know, if I ever met him in
• 24:40
  person, we'd get along very well And he but you know, you got to
• 24:44
  you got to give him crap about doing magic spoon serial
• 24:46
  promotion. Good for him.
• 24:47
  Hey, good for you man. Yeah, exactly.
• 24:50
  But it's funny go that way. Yeah, so.
• 24:52
  The, you know, for the little, the, the smaller channels out
• 24:55
  there, if you want to build your channel up, there's a, there's a
• 24:58
  recipe for that. And if you want to put your
• 25:01
  opinion videos out there, they will get it.
• 25:02
  They will get 1000 views. Jayhawker vintage Mike did a
• 25:07
  video, you know, it blew up. You can be a small channel and,
• 25:12
  and, and have like a normal 50 views.
• 25:15
  And if you want more views, do an opinion video, put your
• 25:18
  opinions out there. I want to hear them.
• 25:21
  Everybody wants to hear them. It doesn't matter you've been in
• 25:23
  the hobby for a week or 100 years.
• 25:26
  Opinion videos are really fun. So my encouragement to anyone
• 25:30
  who has a small channel and is depressed and bummed, do some
• 25:33
  opinion videos. Lash yourself out there, say
• 25:36
  some stupid stuff and you'll be up in the charts real quick.
• 25:40
  And you'll, you know, along the way you find your little core
• 25:42
  friends and invite them on your show and do collaborations.
• 25:45
  I love all the guys that come on and do collaborations like turn
• 25:48
  back the clock. It's fascinating to me.
• 25:52
  All the collectors talking about cards together.
• 25:55
  It's it's really awesome. Well, that's a perfect segue to
• 25:58
  my last point that I wanted to bring up to you and last
• 26:01
  question. So again, Surface Issues Episode
• 26:04
  2, one of the topics was Greg was bringing up something that
• 26:08
  was in a group chat of ours where John Mangini was on
• 26:12
  another channel, professor sports cards and Greg was, you
• 26:16
  know, giving him jokingly, you know, all in good fun.
• 26:19
  He was he was saying, I think in the video John said, you know, I
• 26:23
  don't care what other people do, you know, it doesn't matter to
• 26:25
  me how other people do it. But then in the same video, John
• 26:27
  was, you know, giving his opinion, giving his opinion on
• 26:30
  breaking and other other aspects of the hobby.
• 26:32
  So, and we all do that. Is it in your opinion, what
• 26:37
  what's your breakdown of when we give opinions on, you know, ways
• 26:41
  to collect or grading or whatever it might be in the
• 26:45
  hobby? Whenever you Give your opinion
• 26:47
  is, is that being taken the wrong way sometimes?
• 26:51
  Are people taking that and saying, well, they're looking
• 26:54
  down on me if I do that or they, they think that I'm doing it
• 26:59
  wrong? Is it, is it basically judging
• 27:02
  someone if you give an opinion on it or are we just saying it's
• 27:06
  not for me? Or is there is there a way to
• 27:07
  say it where you can kind of make everyone happy?
• 27:11
  What do you think? You know, you got to do the the
• 27:13
  old Greg spiel and put a long caveat before you speak on these
• 27:18
  podcasts and in the hobby, you have to clarify that these are
• 27:22
  my opinions. We used to do that all the time.
• 27:23
  I would always say I'm less, I'm less scared anymore.
• 27:27
  Like, if you don't know they're my opinions by now, then I'm
• 27:31
  sorry. But when I say centered cards
• 27:34
  are the future and the rarest things in tops that you can
• 27:38
  find, it's not the registration, it's not anything else.
• 27:41
  To me, it's more than an opinion, it's fact.
• 27:44
  Why? Because I've done the process of
• 27:47
  trying to find these cards and that's the hardest thing to
• 27:50
  find. I don't need all this data like
• 27:52
  Greg and all this stuff to figure that out.
• 27:54
  To me, it's fact. But to you guys, it should be
• 27:57
  opinions and I'm not telling you that your off center cards are
• 28:02
  useless to you. You should be thanking me for
• 28:05
  pumping up the centered cards and making them more expensive
• 28:09
  because all the off center cards are getting a lot cheaper for
• 28:11
  you. So you can.
• 28:13
  You can get mad at anyones opinion but it's opinions that's
• 28:17
  the whole point of this. When I share a printing plate
• 28:21
  and I say this is the greatest thing in the world, these should
• 28:23
  be worth a fortune man. It's not like a pump and dump
• 28:25
  scheme. I'm telling you what my thoughts
• 28:27
  are on the future of the cards. I'm telling you my Japanese
• 28:30
  baseball cards are the future. These things have a whole way
• 28:33
  ramp to go up in value. They're so astronomically low.
• 28:37
  This is my opinion. This is how I'm going about it.
• 28:41
  You can agree or disagree, but I'm going to still put it out
• 28:45
  there and you're not wrong if you have a different opinion,
• 28:48
  you're just wrong to me. To me, you're totally doing it
• 28:51
  wrong. But I'm collecting for myself.
• 28:54
  I have the greatest collection in the whole world.
• 28:55
  Why? Because I made it for myself.
• 28:58
  I didn't make it for you. I didn't make it for this guy.
• 29:00
  This is my collection. You know it that it always
• 29:04
  stands back down to create what you want in your collection.
• 29:09
  It doesn't matter what anyone else does, but you are also
• 29:12
  allowed to listen two opinions and consider those opinions and
• 29:18
  you're allowed to change your opinions.
• 29:20
  We don't need to put our head in the stand and say no, never
• 29:23
  going to do that. Never going to believe that
• 29:26
  you're allowed to. And that's why I like Greg.
• 29:28
  He beats the dead horse till The thing is dead about.
• 29:31
  You know, the I appeal in the grading system, how it's flawed
• 29:36
  and how the old, you know, the, some of the new force are like
• 29:40
  the old sevens. And it took me a long time to
• 29:43
  kind of come to terms with that myself, but I it taught me to
• 29:47
  look at my cards a little different way too, and, and it's
• 29:50
  good. So those are that's my thought
• 29:53
  about opinions, man. Their opinions.
• 29:54
  But they're facts in my brain when I say my opinions until
• 29:59
  otherwise I change my opinion. It's kind of like, it's kind of
• 30:02
  like politics and what everyone's kind of trying to do
• 30:05
  now, right? It's like, all right, you Dylan,
• 30:07
  you could go on a video and say I think PSA eights that are off
• 30:12
  centered are ugly cards it or I think they're bad purchases.
• 30:16
  I don't I don't think they're smart.
• 30:17
  I think it's a a waste of money where you could spend on other
• 30:20
  cards. You could say something like
• 30:21
  that, which is a heavy opinion, right.
• 30:23
  And then if someone's watching that, who can, who has those
• 30:26
  type of cards in their collection, they spent good
• 30:29
  money on them, but they don't get bothered by bad centering.
• 30:32
  They can say, you know what? Dylan thinks my cards maybe not
• 30:35
  for him or they might be ugly, but I still like Dylan, right.
• 30:38
  Like we, we don't have to not like each other because we like
• 30:41
  certain things differently, you know, in in the hobby.
• 30:44
  So I think it's some similarity there.
• 30:46
  And I understand why people, when you give an opinion on
• 30:49
  something, if you know, I've, I've heard people say things
• 30:51
  where they're like, I, I, I can't come up with a perfect
• 30:54
  example right now, but I've heard give people give opinions
• 30:57
  on videos where I go, oh man. And it like kind of hurt my
• 31:00
  feelings at first where I was like, man, I got cards like that
• 31:02
  or I collect that type of card. But then I'm like, So what, Who
• 31:06
  cares? You know, like, I still like
• 31:08
  this person, you know, they seem like a cool person.
• 31:10
  They don't have to like my collection.
• 31:11
  It's, it's all good. So it's kind of just getting
• 31:13
  over that at 1st and not getting offended by by these type of
• 31:17
  things. But I understand why people can
• 31:20
  take offense to it at first. But maybe the longer we do,
• 31:24
  it'll be easier and easier to just all get along.
• 31:26
  Yeah, let me, let me, let me touch base on that because
• 31:30
  that's really important. Like when I first got on here
• 31:33
  and I was talking about centering, I'll bring up an
• 31:37
  experience that I had that I felt it felt gross to me.
• 31:40
  And then I'll bring up an another experience where I made
• 31:43
  other people feel unwelcome or gross to equal it out.
• 31:48
  I was on a live and everybody was on there and a gentleman who
• 31:52
  was very respected. And I love the guy.
• 31:54
  I've met him in the flesh, Nicest human being ever.
• 31:57
  If you were, I don't want to bring his name up because
• 31:59
  there's no need. But in the live, he said if
• 32:03
  anyone thinks that we never looked at eye appeal and
• 32:06
  centering in the past, I don't think they've collected.
• 32:09
  I don't think they've been collecting as long as they've
• 32:11
  said. And I felt pointed at and I was
• 32:15
  said by many people in the chat and over the phone that, man,
• 32:19
  that was rough. That was tough, Dylan.
• 32:21
  And I was new at YouTube, right? So it did hurt because I was
• 32:26
  putting my opinion out there three years ago about the
• 32:28
  centering thing, Like I was a crazy person, right?
• 32:30
  Selling all these off centered stuff, all the higher grades.
• 32:33
  And so I was really putting myself out there.
• 32:35
  So I, I felt pointed at and I, I called the individual and we
• 32:40
  talked and I shouldn't have taken offense to that because he
• 32:44
  was just he, even if he, even if he had me in his brain, it
• 32:49
  doesn't mean he was right about that.
• 32:52
  I didn't need to defend myself and I shouldn't have gotten butt
• 32:55
  hurt over that. And now let me take it another
• 32:57
  step forward where another experience John 380's kid was
• 33:02
  talking crap on rookie cards. I felt like I was pointed out.
• 33:06
  That's me, another one of my dumb like I shouldn't.
• 33:10
  I was like, why did I take offense to that?
• 33:12
  John? I I know John so much more now.
• 33:14
  He's just that's just John. You know, he's like, he's real,
• 33:18
  he's like me. We have our opinions and this is
• 33:19
  like fact, right? So he's talking about it.
• 33:22
  And then we talked over the phone.
• 33:24
  We're like best buds now. All good.
• 33:26
  Well, Fast forward to the video we did not that long ago where I
• 33:29
  talked about bringing your bag of money and going in there and
• 33:32
  just saying screw calm. So I got my bag of money, I'll
• 33:34
  buy any card I want. And that was my experience with
• 33:37
  these printing plates. And I was like, OK, I'm buying
• 33:39
  these things. I don't care.
• 33:41
  I got my bag of money. I'm just going to do it.
• 33:44
  And I know why people felt pointed at.
• 33:46
  At least one individual felt pointed at and he wasn't
• 33:50
  pointing. He didn't feel pointed at
• 33:51
  himself. He felt like I was pointing at
• 33:53
  other individuals. So I made two phone calls to the
• 33:56
  other individuals that I thought the person was pointing at.
• 33:59
  They didn't take any offense, cleared it up.
• 34:02
  But it's things like that that happen on YouTube.
• 34:05
  It happens with friends and it's we really have to be careful on
• 34:11
  how we take things in when people give their opinions
• 34:15
  because they are opinions. And it's one thing until you say
• 34:20
  the person's name and say you said this, this guy said this.
• 34:24
  I'm at that point where I can't, I don't really get it.
• 34:27
  I can't get offended anymore. I don't want to be that guy
• 34:29
  who's gets offended by things. I've learned over time that
• 34:34
  there's guys that love off centered stuff and we defend our
• 34:37
  own collections. If I'm a guy who was have all
• 34:40
  these old 8 dirt numbers and nine cert numbers and Greg's
• 34:46
  talking about how they're garbage now and they're they're
• 34:48
  fives and I and I'm telling them I think it's crazy they're
• 34:52
  spending five grand for a card that's uglier than my four that
• 34:55
  cost 100 bucks. It's the truth to me.
• 34:59
  But that guy has to defend his own collection.
• 35:02
  He spent a big amount of time and money on that collection.
• 35:05
  So I understand them really get an uproar about it.
• 35:09
  But you can do something about that.
• 35:11
  If you truly believe that you still those eights and nines are
• 35:14
  still going to be worth more in the future, then hold your
• 35:17
  ground. We could be totally wrong about
• 35:19
  this whole thing, but if for any reason you have any doubt, you
• 35:22
  can change your opinion and make a fortune off those and
• 35:27
  recollect them. So this hobby evolves and so
• 35:31
  does our relationships with these opinion videos and feel,
• 35:36
  you know, feeling pointed at when Victor, I'll bring up
• 35:38
  Victor. OK, when you're on with Victor,
• 35:41
  he said something on the lines of he said like I'm so sick of
• 35:45
  people saying these base cards are junk.
• 35:47
  You know, I'm like, I don't never actually, I actually heard
• 35:50
  that and I wrote them, you know, and I love Victor Kay.
• 35:52
  I have the utmost respect for Victor and what he does on his
• 35:56
  channel and his concentration on the rookie card.
• 35:59
  He had Bobby Burrell on his channel the other day.
• 36:01
  I listened to that. That was fantastic.
• 36:03
  Made so much sense to me. I've learned a lot from Victor
• 36:06
  in those rookie cards, whether my opinions are exactly aligned
• 36:09
  with him. No, but I've never heard anyone
• 36:12
  say these base cards are crap. But sometimes I feel like he's
• 36:15
  talking to me because I always say base cards are never going
• 36:19
  to go up in value and I believe that.
• 36:21
  I believe that since the day I got on YouTube.
• 36:23
  But I never understood why the Mike Trout base card was worth
• 36:26
  like 8 grand and then two grand. None of it made sense to me why
• 36:30
  Kendra V Junior's Indiana upper deck should be worth 50 bucks in
• 36:34
  all grades. All that doesn't make sense to
• 36:37
  me, but it doesn't mean I'm right.
• 36:38
  So I know I went off on a tangent, but we're allowed to
• 36:42
  poke, poke our opinions out and we shouldn't be getting, you
• 36:47
  know, RIP the part in the comments because we're, we're up
• 36:51
  here saying stuff and it's OK. And you can say it in the chat.
• 36:55
  You don't have to be so hardcore and and like mean about it.
• 36:58
  There's there's other ways to do it and you could build your own
• 37:00
  channel up and put opinions out of your own.
• 37:04
  Yeah, and it's funny about Victor because I think Victor
• 37:07
  gets a lot of kickback from not so much maybe our crowd on
• 37:12
  YouTube. I think he gets a lot of
• 37:13
  kickback from a lot of the, the modern crowd, you know, that
• 37:17
  really doesn't value the rookie card and they they throw the
• 37:20
  base cards in the trash, you know, and he get he gets, I
• 37:22
  think he gets a lot of a lot of feedback from that crowd.
• 37:25
  So that's I think that's probably where some of that
• 37:27
  comes from. Not necessarily like you or, or
• 37:29
  anyone in this crowd on YouTube, But you know, my last point I've
• 37:34
  I've heard you say this in the past.
• 37:36
  This was like a long time ago where you were talking about, I
• 37:39
  think you had like certain cards, maybe a Michael Jordan
• 37:41
  rookie card or some really big cards that have gotten a lot
• 37:46
  bigger. And I think I remember you
• 37:48
  saying like one of the reasons why you were always a maybe
• 37:51
  hesitant to hold on to those cards is 'cause you really you
• 37:54
  were collecting in a vacuum like like a lot of us.
• 37:58
  And you really weren't sure of like what the future held.
• 38:00
  Like is this card going to be even valuable in the future?
• 38:04
  We didn't, we didn't know, you know, I think with a lot of us,
• 38:08
  maybe the defensiveness of our collections and, and the way we
• 38:11
  go about the hobby, maybe a lot of that's rooted in a little bit
• 38:14
  of insecurity about the hobby, even though now it's very
• 38:17
  popular and everyone's very bold.
• 38:20
  Not everyone, but a lot of people are very bullish on the
• 38:22
  hobby long term. And there's big companies in it.
• 38:24
  There's a lot of marketing behind it.
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  There's a good infrastructure there.
• 38:28
  That's pretty recent. You know, I think in the past, I
• 38:30
  mean, we lived through the junk wax era.
• 38:32
  We, we, we went through periods where it felt like we were the
• 38:36
  only ones doing this, right. So I think there's a lot of that
• 38:39
  out there where with people that are spending real money on their
• 38:43
  collections, you know, when they hear someone give an opinion
• 38:45
  that kind of contradicts what they've spent their money on,
• 38:49
  they can get defensive a little bit and can get maybe, you know,
• 38:52
  offended because they've spent a lot of money.
• 38:55
  And there's a maybe all of us have a little insecurity about
• 38:58
  what we're doing here, you know, spending some serious money on,
• 39:02
  on cardboard. So I, I've always kind of had
• 39:04
  that, that thought and even the companies up until recently now,
• 39:08
  I mean, these companies are really going after it fanatics
• 39:12
  and PSA and every, I mean, they're, there's big money at
• 39:14
  stake in big marketing dollars, real serious people at the helm
• 39:18
  that have a long history of success in whatever they try to
• 39:21
  do. But you know, up until like the
• 39:25
  last few years, really, the companies, in my opinion, in the
• 39:29
  hobby were kind of not real bullish on the hobby long term.
• 39:33
  I always it kind of felt like these companies were just just
• 39:36
  waiting for things to just crash again or, you know, completely
• 39:39
  go everything just go away. Like no one was really willing
• 39:42
  to invest heavily into their company.
• 39:44
  And then I think that's a lot of what you see with like old PSA
• 39:47
  labels and so forth. Even PSA back in the day, I
• 39:51
  don't think they were investing until the new leadership came
• 39:53
  in. I don't think they were really
• 39:55
  investing in their company and, and I don't know that that's
• 39:58
  just maybe going a little too deep into it, but that I've been
• 40:02
  thinking about that where now it's different, but people have
• 40:06
  been in a while. It's kind of like PTSD sometimes
• 40:09
  in the hobby. It's, it is, it was way scarier
• 40:12
  in the past 'cause there was no YouTube, there were no, you
• 40:16
  know, when I had those monster cards, I, it was like, I mean,
• 40:22
  they weren't monsters in there $500 cards back then.
• 40:25
  They were monsters for, you know, 1999, two, 1001.
• 40:29
  You know, I'm out of high school working full time.
• 40:32
  Like I told myself I'm going to buy all these goats.
• 40:35
  I'm going to buy every goat of every single sport.
• 40:38
  Gretzky rookies all the way across.
• 40:39
  I had a few Michael Jordan rookies, Nolan Ryan rookies, oh,
• 40:43
  you name it. If I would have kept, I mean,
• 40:46
  Kobe Bryant refractors in the 9 in 96, I had loads of this
• 40:50
  stuff. If I would have kept all those
• 40:52
  cards the whole time and never knew their value, I would have
• 40:57
  at least $2,000,000 worth of cards, you know, right now.
• 41:01
  So it's one of those things. But I was alone.
• 41:04
  You know, I'm thinking, man, who is some eventually you hold on,
• 41:09
  it's long enough and then they they stack up and these safes
• 41:12
  and you have like thousands and thousands and thousands of
• 41:14
  dollars. You know, especially back then
• 41:17
  as a young man, it got scary. And I'm like, gosh, man.
• 41:21
  So I put that money into stocks instead.
• 41:24
  And it's hard. When you when you don't know
• 41:25
  anyone else who is into cards. That's where I was a little over
• 41:30
  4 years ago. I was literally like, I don't
• 41:33
  know one person who still buys cards or cares about cards.
• 41:37
  I know I do for some reason. But when you don't see anyone
• 41:39
  else out there and you don't have anyone to talk about,
• 41:41
  nothing to bounce off of, then you do.
• 41:43
  Yeah. You're just like, I don't know,
• 41:44
  maybe maybe it's kind of, I love these things, but I got to be
• 41:47
  careful I guess, because it could be good.
• 41:49
  It could be going to 0. Now with YouTube and social
• 41:51
  media, we have so much that we can see out there.
• 41:54
  We can see the National. I didn't even know the National
• 41:56
  was a thing until I got on YouTube.
• 41:58
  I never even heard of the National.
• 42:00
  So now that we see like there's 100,000 people at the National,
• 42:04
  I mean, it does give you more confidence.
• 42:06
  I think in like what we're doing, I think, you know.
• 42:09
  Absolutely, I have AI have no problem where say everything got
• 42:13
  cut in half. I'm not worried about the hobby
• 42:15
  at this point. There's there's Chris Sewell did
• 42:18
  a video today and and I am 100% in agreeance with him.
• 42:21
  There is more collectors today, full blown collectors.
• 42:24
  I don't care if you're a flipper or whatever.
• 42:26
  I'm talking if you're playing with cards in some way, shape or
• 42:30
  form, you're some sort of a collector for the most part.
• 42:33
  There's more collectors now than they've ever been in any time
• 42:36
  even during that 90s boom, in my opinion, of course.
• 42:41
  So it gives me confidence like, man, everything got cut in half.
• 42:45
  Give it another 20 years, we'll hit another boom time.
• 42:47
  And I think, man, I, I think we're in the still like 5th
• 42:51
  inning of this, of this hobby boom.
• 42:54
  I know I'm not talking prices necessarily, but hobby.
• 42:58
  Boom popularity. Yes, yes.
• 43:02
  Well, I think that's a great way to to end this one deal on a
• 43:04
  positive note, right? We're we're optimistic, we're
• 43:07
  hopeful, and I think we have good reason to be.
• 43:11
  So I want to leave it with this now.
• 43:13
  This video will go on YouTube. It it goes out on a podcast
• 43:16
  first. I know a lot of guys that may
• 43:18
  catch this on YouTube. They're not I've, I've heard
• 43:22
  from the people who have no clue how to listen to a podcast.
• 43:26
  So if you have one of those smartphones guys, you get an
• 43:28
  iPhone, just download Spotify or Apple.
• 43:31
  That's all you need one of those two, if not both, but all you
• 43:34
  need is one of them and look for the the sports card clubhouse.
• 43:38
  I'm going to put links in the video here.
• 43:40
  And I, you know, unless you have YouTube premium, which I do have
• 43:44
  YouTube premium. I've had it for a long time.
• 43:45
  I know you do, where it allows you to really listen to YouTube
• 43:48
  as a podcast. I know a lot of guys don't have
• 43:51
  it. You can't.
• 43:53
  It's really hard to like listen to a video like this.
• 43:56
  You're out, you know, mowing the lawn or whatever 'cause when you
• 43:59
  shut click your phone off, it shuts the thing off unless you
• 44:01
  have the premium, right? So I encourage people to either
• 44:05
  get YouTube Premium or start listening on a podcast to these
• 44:09
  type of episodes 'cause it's a lot easier.
• 44:12
  Dude, this is a call out straight up to Lou Rock.
• 44:15
  Talked to him about this. He doesn't have the premium.
• 44:17
  He's watching commercials for all the YouTube content.
• 44:21
  I go, it's 10 bucks a month, 120 bucks a year and you don't have
• 44:26
  to watch any commercials and you can turn into a podcast and go
• 44:28
  what is wrong with you? So you rock, you got it, dude.
• 44:32
  Step up your game, man. That's like that's nothing.
• 44:35
  Just it's a game changer to be able to close your phone and
• 44:39
  it's a podcast doesn't burn a hole in your pocket.
• 44:41
  You know what to watch all you know, it's you don't have to
• 44:45
  watch all those freaking commercials watching our videos.
• 44:48
  So last thing I want to say, Adam, is that, you know, again,
• 44:53
  I'm going to clarify the fact that these are my personal
• 44:57
  opinions when I speak. If if you have different
• 45:00
  opinions, that's fantastic. I'm not telling you to go do
• 45:03
  anything that I'm doing or believe anything that I'm
• 45:06
  saying. All I want to do is come across
• 45:08
  as is not. I want to be just a me as a
• 45:12
  normal person. I'm not mad at anyone for
• 45:15
  collecting differently than me. I'm not pointing at you for
• 45:19
  anything you're doing in this hobby if I think you're wrong.
• 45:23
  It's just that's just my opinion.
• 45:25
  I'm not going to be like you're wrong you're the worst person
• 45:28
  ever because you're wrong. No, I don't care how you
• 45:31
  collect. I truly do not care.
• 45:36
  I just really wanted to put that there.
• 45:37
  One last thing to make it even more controversial for Victor
• 45:42
  and anybody else. You know when I was a kid when I
• 45:45
  opened up a pack of Tops baseball cards, 198786, when I
• 45:49
  got common players, you know where they went into my spokes.
• 45:53
  So I have no problem with kids not loving all the Commons that
• 45:57
  come out of the packs. I don't care.
• 45:59
  I was the same way as a kid. So you don't need to collect
• 46:03
  every single card. You know, every base card that
• 46:06
  comes out of a pack isn't worth everything.
• 46:10
  It you don't need to just pile up these stacks of cards.
• 46:13
  Some people love it, but not everyone needs to love every
• 46:17
  card that comes out of a pack. So I want to, you know, throw
• 46:20
  that in the system to work Victor up a little bit, you
• 46:23
  know? Work him out.
• 46:24
  Victor is a great guy and and actually the one of the reasons
• 46:28
  I love Tom Brady based rookie cards is because those were
• 46:31
  Commons when they came out of the pack.
• 46:33
  Everyone thought he was a common right.
• 46:35
  So that's why I think they're really cool is because a lot of
• 46:37
  people when they pull the Brady rookie out of a pack in 2000 or
• 46:40
  2001, they threw it in the trash.
• 46:44
  So I love it. That's why I love those cards.
• 46:46
  All right, we're going to wrap it here, Dylan first one of many
• 46:50
  here in the future. This was awesome, guys.
• 46:54
  Thanks for listening and watching.
• 46:56
  We'll catch you on the next one.