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Scouting College Tight Ends and Running Backs, Latest Draft News and Trade Scenarios | Patriots Draft Countdown · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Just one week to go till the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 2: Today we're breaking down the tight ends and the running
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  Speaker 2: backs and all the latest news.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it with the.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty first pick, the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: we're just a little over one week out.
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  Speaker 1: Finally. I know it seems a little shorter.
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  Speaker 3: This year because we were at the Super Bowl, so
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't was it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you get through it all right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean this process of the draft, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you've gotten a handle on this class.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm there now.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I had a little panic set in when I started
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  Speaker 5: working on the draft because of how late of a
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  Speaker 5: start we got. But that caused me to like really
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  Speaker 5: cram even more. I feel like into a short period
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  Speaker 5: of time. So we're in a good spot now. I
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  Speaker 5: think we got a feel for the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, I go for it.
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  Speaker 2: We got Paul here, Paul someone who's used to picking
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  Speaker 2: near the bottom of the first round.
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  Speaker 3: The rest of us were like, Hey, where's our top
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  Speaker 3: five pick.
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  Speaker 1: But Paul, this is familiar territory forget.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just glad they didn't decide to push the draft
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  Speaker 6: back because and wasn't quite prepared yet.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting there.
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  Speaker 5: I saw have like maybe like eight guys that I
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  Speaker 5: really need to get to over the next week.
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  Speaker 6: But we're Yeah, it is challenging a little bit. And
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  Speaker 6: I can only imagine, you know, in real life, in
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  Speaker 6: other words, the actual personnel department that matter, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, and it's the coaches.
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  Speaker 6: Because the scouts obviously are doing all their work all
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  Speaker 6: year round, regardless of the the caliber of the team,
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  Speaker 6: it's the coaches and whatnot that are getting caught up
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  Speaker 6: to all the information. So yeah, it's a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of a different dynamic. Belichick used to sort of quote
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  Speaker 6: unquote complain about it, and and Vrabel has been the
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  Speaker 6: same way.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're playing catch up, but at this point
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  Speaker 1: you caught up.
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  Speaker 4: I think you rely a lot on your elliot.
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  Speaker 5: Wolf was talking at his pre press conference about the
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  Speaker 5: coaches list, So like, the board kind of goes through
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  Speaker 5: the scouts and goes through the personnel people that have
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  Speaker 5: been focused on the draft, and then they only really
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  Speaker 5: give the try to give the coaches like a refined
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  Speaker 5: list of here's like eight to ten guys at your
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  Speaker 5: position that we want you to watch, instead of here's
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  Speaker 5: fifty at your position.
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  Speaker 4: That you want you watch.
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  Speaker 5: So you rely a lot on you know, those scouts
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  Speaker 5: to get the list down to a comfortable limit. And
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  Speaker 5: then he mentioned that Mike Rabel has taken all of
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  Speaker 5: the play the lists for the position coaches and he's
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  Speaker 5: watched every single position, whereas maybe if you're Ashton Grant,
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  Speaker 5: you're only watching Day three quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: Two quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, right, like it, So your job might be a
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  Speaker 5: little bit easier than Doug Moron, who might have to
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  Speaker 5: watch fifty offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're about uti square.
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  Speaker 3: If you landed here with this draft, I feeling it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not my favorite draft.
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was going to be edge, but the
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  Speaker 7: past couple of days I think they're trading out of
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  Speaker 7: the first round. I just think it's one of those
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  Speaker 7: draft where you try to get depth, and I don't
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  Speaker 7: think we're going to get a pick at thirty one personally.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: When we've talked about a little bit, Paul, if they
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  Speaker 2: just traded down a little bit. I mean, you lose
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  Speaker 2: that fifth year option, but maybe you pick up you know,
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  Speaker 2: another day two pick.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I don't hate it generally, I'm anti trading down. But
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  Speaker 6: this draft, this class, I think Matista's right. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think it's you know, stocked with a bunch of can't
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  Speaker 6: miss starting caliber players. So if the right opportunity presents itself.
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  Speaker 6: Now the big question is I think in regard to
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  Speaker 6: that is Ty Simpson does he sort of entice someone
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  Speaker 6: to move into the bottom of the first round to.
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  Speaker 1: Go get him, you know, and we'll find out.
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  Speaker 4: You'll find out.
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  Speaker 5: There's always that mini run of wide receivers usually late
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  Speaker 5: first round, early second round receivers too. That would be
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  Speaker 5: the only other spot. Now, I know Patriots fans hear
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  Speaker 5: me say that, and like they're going to trade out
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  Speaker 5: of a wide receiver pick like that.
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  Speaker 4: Let's not do that again.
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  Speaker 5: But Ty Simpson or you know, if they're not in
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  Speaker 5: love with like a Denzel Boston, you know, or someone
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  Speaker 5: like that, and they end up, you know, having a
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  Speaker 5: team that's maybe picking at the top of the second
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  Speaker 5: round that really likes Denzel Boston, then you could see
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  Speaker 5: that sort of thing. You don't really see trade ups
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  Speaker 5: for like non premium player positions like that, like a
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  Speaker 5: guard or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well this is our last show before
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  Speaker 2: the draft, at least live produce show. But we got
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  Speaker 2: the tight ends and the running backs, kind of opposite
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  Speaker 2: ends of the spectrum. Tight end, good group, Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Evan did his best.
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  Speaker 2: He still gave us some running backs, but first talked
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  Speaker 2: to Paige Demacos of the Draft Network. She gave us
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  Speaker 2: her take on this draft as well as her A J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown take, so check that out. We're excited now to
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  Speaker 2: be joined by Paige Demacos from the Draft Network page.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us here just over two weeks away
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  Speaker 2: from the big draft.
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  Speaker 1: Finally.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's that time of the year where
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  Speaker 9: it's silly season, right, that's what I like to call it,
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  Speaker 9: where there's a lot of information that's being leaked by
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  Speaker 9: anonymous sources. Right, it's that time of the year, and
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  Speaker 9: a lot of what's coming out is done in a
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  Speaker 9: position to jockey for getting guys to go up and
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  Speaker 9: down the boards.
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  Speaker 10: Right, that's how this goes.
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  Speaker 9: Ninety nine percent of what's coming out is coming from
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  Speaker 9: a team trying to get somebody to actually believe what's
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  Speaker 9: coming out, so that if they can get that guy
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  Speaker 9: in a better spot, I e. The Jordan Tyson conversation
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  Speaker 9: that's happening right now, so that that is that time
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  Speaker 9: of the year. I cannot wait to to Pittsburgh so
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  Speaker 9: silly season ends and we can actually start making some
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  Speaker 9: real picks. So yeah, I'm very excited for this. This
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  Speaker 9: next two weeks is going to drag on. It's going
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  Speaker 9: to feel like a month and a half. It always does.
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  Speaker 2: Oh amen, Well before we get specifically in the draft.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you had a great take, I thought, and
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  Speaker 2: of course AJ Brown has just been kind of hanging
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  Speaker 2: over this Patriots team. I want to say, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like going on five years now, specifically now to the spring,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like things might happen. We've been circling this.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're all questioning is AJ Brown the answer?
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  Speaker 2: But I want to know your thoughts on if the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots should grab Aj Brown.
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  Speaker 9: I've been pretty consistent on this and this is a
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  Speaker 9: no for me. I don't understand any team evaluating what
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  Speaker 9: his behavior has been like over the last two seasons
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  Speaker 9: and thinking to themselves, yeah, it's going to be better
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  Speaker 9: for me. You're talking about a Super Bowl champion, a
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  Speaker 9: team that absolutely dismantled the Kansas City Chiefs in the
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  Speaker 9: Super Bowl in an embarrassing fact for Casey. So you
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  Speaker 9: think about that and the toppling of Mahomes and go, wow,
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  Speaker 9: the Eagles must really have just been so happy, riding high,
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  Speaker 9: feeling good. Oh no, we're reading books on the sideline
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  Speaker 9: that year, like we can all pretend like that's a
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  Speaker 9: normal thing. Everybody who's covered football, or played football or
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  Speaker 9: been around football on those absolutely damn well that that
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  Speaker 9: is not true and that is not a normal thing
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  Speaker 9: to do, not normal behavior. Now you've had Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 9: who's a great leader and a more reserved guy who
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  Speaker 9: hasn't been combative with AJ. But who's to say that
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  Speaker 9: any other quarterback is going to handle what has been
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  Speaker 9: going on with AJ better? And for me, when you're
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  Speaker 9: talking about the young quarterback of Drake May and going
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  Speaker 9: into year three, an important and very crucial year, I
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  Speaker 9: don't want disruptive behavior in my locker room. I don't
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  Speaker 9: want somebody who's coming in and culturally disrupting or thinks
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  Speaker 9: he's the leader you need to continue to build off
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  Speaker 9: of what you have. You need to have a guy
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  Speaker 9: that continues to make Drake a better a better player,
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  Speaker 9: and continues to help build him as a leader. And I,
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  Speaker 9: as much as I trust Mike, we're able to literally
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  Speaker 9: handle anything inside a locker room. I just don't think
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  Speaker 9: that he wants this problem, honestly, I don't. And there
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  Speaker 9: are a lot of great receivers in this draft class
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  Speaker 9: who you can build and have part of your culture.
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  Speaker 9: And I just look at this and go, what is
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  Speaker 9: gonna make him happy?
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  Speaker 10: Right?
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  Speaker 9: Super Bowl champs? If that's the expectation and you're not happy,
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  Speaker 9: what are.
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  Speaker 10: You gonna do? Right? I don't know what's gonna make
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  Speaker 10: him happy?
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  Speaker 9: And I don't want to deal with Madden chats and
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  Speaker 9: all the shenanigans that's been going on with AJ. He's
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  Speaker 9: a very talented guy, but it's at a certain point
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  Speaker 9: when is he notugh enough? And the Boston media I
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  Speaker 9: think would eat him alive.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's all hanging over the Patriots and you
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  Speaker 2: look at the draft, they're down at thirty one, kind
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  Speaker 2: of a no man's land of picks. Usually you're waiting
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  Speaker 2: to see maybe who falls through the cracks. I gotta
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  Speaker 2: admit it's hard to see. Do you draft a guy
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  Speaker 2: in the draft and then that takes Antonio or you know,
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  Speaker 2: takes Brown out of the equation? What do you see
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  Speaker 2: down there at thirty first overall? And I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: gotta admit, there's a guy named Boston, I mean Boston
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  Speaker 2: that seems like a pretty good fit for the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: and outside guy some size. What do you think of
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  Speaker 2: not only him, but just generally that spot for wide
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  Speaker 2: receivers with concepcion the others that might be there.
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  Speaker 9: I like Case a lot. I like Denzel Boston a lot.
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  Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of depth at the position,
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  Speaker 9: and I think they're going to be able to get
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  Speaker 9: a guy that they really like at the thirty one. Honestly,
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  Speaker 9: I think they're going to be able to sit there,
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  Speaker 9: stampat and be able to evaluate on their draft board
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  Speaker 9: who do they like and who's the highest guy there
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  Speaker 9: at thirty one. I do think they're going to get
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  Speaker 9: a guy that makes a difference. I think they're going
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  Speaker 9: to get an instant impact starter. You this is a
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  Speaker 9: nice class to come into when you need receiver. There's
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  Speaker 9: a lot of very good impact Day one guys. I've
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  Speaker 9: spent a lot of time around all of them. Most
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  Speaker 9: of them are out here in Phoenix training at EXOS.
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  Speaker 9: Of the top guys, I think ten of the top
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  Speaker 9: twelve guys were.
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  Speaker 10: All out here. Just a real alpha group of wide receivers.
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  Speaker 10: Really a lot of.
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  Speaker 9: Depth from how they all can run, really the whole
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  Speaker 9: route tree, how they can be used, how versatile they
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  Speaker 9: all are, really, how great they all were in college,
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  Speaker 9: and how good the tape is coming out. This is
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  Speaker 9: a really good class. And I like Denzel Boston. I
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  Speaker 9: think obviously with the last name, it would be a fun,
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  Speaker 9: fun little storyline there. Casey concept Sheana spent a lot
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  Speaker 9: of time around. I know his agents really well. Just
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  Speaker 9: the integrity of the player, the character, and just how
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  Speaker 9: much he he just loves ball. Like there's certain people
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  Speaker 9: that you talk about that you know. I've been in
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  Speaker 9: the draft rooms and I've heard the conversations. A lot
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  Speaker 9: of this is about football character, especially in this nil
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  Speaker 9: transfer portal era that has made it even more difficult
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  Speaker 9: to find out who really loves ball, and that conversation
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  Speaker 9: is happening more than ever before inside every franchise. And
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  Speaker 9: Casey's one of those guys that you know just loves
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  Speaker 9: the game and is is going to put it all
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  Speaker 9: out there and I think the exact type of guy
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  Speaker 9: that a Mike Vrabel would love having in his locker room.
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  Speaker 2: The other position I want to ask you about is
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  Speaker 2: just the edge. It's a big need for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: You know, obviously they have had some transition at that position.
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  Speaker 2: There's some question of Harold Landry how healthy he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be coming into this season. But it's a really
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  Speaker 2: good class. Cash Is Howell a popular pick. Ore Mason
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  Speaker 2: Thomas a guy that I really like, as well as
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  Speaker 2: Gay Bachus. Three guys that seem to have that Mike Vrabel,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of vibe of effort and finish. Just
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  Speaker 2: what do you see from this edge class? And you
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  Speaker 2: know what do you think they're thirty one? I find
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  Speaker 2: myself feeling like they got to trade up maybe in
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  Speaker 2: the second round to get one of these guys.
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  Speaker 3: If perhaps they will go wide receiver first.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, if they go to me.
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  Speaker 9: I think there's two things that can happen at thirty one,
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  Speaker 9: And it's going to depend on how they stack the board,
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  Speaker 9: and it's going to look at the edge class and.
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  Speaker 10: The receiver class. The two classes that.
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  Speaker 9: Luckily for Patriots fans, this is the two deepest positions
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  Speaker 9: coming into this draft class. So it's nice when you
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  Speaker 9: evaluate this that your positions of need line up with
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  Speaker 9: the positions of depth coming out of this draft class.
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  Speaker 9: So I think if you're at thirty one and Cashus
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  Speaker 9: Howell's there, it's gonna be very hard to walk away
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  Speaker 9: from that conversation. Even as much as you need a receiver,
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  Speaker 9: I think you might wait on the receiver and you
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  Speaker 9: go in the second round to get a guy maybe
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  Speaker 9: like a Malachi Fields from Notre Dame somebody else who
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  Speaker 9: we really like at the Draft network. So I think
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  Speaker 9: the reality is you're looking at a couple of different
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  Speaker 9: guys that could be there at thirty one. Are you
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  Speaker 9: going to be enticed to maybe move some of those
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  Speaker 9: later round picks right that you've got a bunch of
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  Speaker 9: six round picks to package something together to be able
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  Speaker 9: to be a little aggressive.
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  Speaker 10: The team that I'm.
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  Speaker 9: Most interested in is if we get past sixteen, right
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  Speaker 9: and the Jets don't take Ty Simpson, which I do
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  Speaker 9: not think that they're going to, I really do. I
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  Speaker 9: think They're gonna be able to hold off now Woody
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  Speaker 9: Johnson could throw a wrench in that plan, because at
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  Speaker 9: any moment in time he can decide, Hey, I'm going
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  Speaker 9: for it and I want to and I.
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  Speaker 10: Want and I want a quarterback.
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  Speaker 9: But if you get past sixteen, that back half of
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  Speaker 9: the drafts to be all time conversations because there's gonna
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  Speaker 9: be a lot of people calling to try and entice
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  Speaker 9: the Jets, the Cardinals, some other teams that are quarterback
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  Speaker 9: needy to come up. And I can see the I
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  Speaker 9: can see the Patriots doing that at thirty one if
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  Speaker 9: they're not in love with the guy at thirty one,
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  Speaker 9: they're not in love, which at thirty one in the
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  Speaker 9: first round, you gotta love a guy, you really, do
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  Speaker 9: you still you gotta love a guy. If they don't
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  Speaker 9: love somebody, they could move out and I wouldn't be surprised,
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  Speaker 9: would not be surprised.
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  Speaker 2: One other position I want to ask you about there
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  Speaker 2: at thirty first overall is just tackle, and which you know,
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  Speaker 2: seems like there's just a need for tackle across the league.
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  Speaker 1: Really hard position to develop.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a potential you know what, Blake Miller maybe
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  Speaker 2: falling to that spot, someone like that, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know Patriots are you know, say they're set with Will
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  Speaker 2: Campbell on the left side, Morgan Moses, you know, continuing
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  Speaker 2: to power through. I mean, he played every game last year,
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  Speaker 2: but tackle is a long term need. Could you make
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  Speaker 2: a case to take a tackle at thirty first?
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  Speaker 3: Overall, I think.
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  Speaker 9: Blake Miller or Maxie and a tourer there at thirty
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  Speaker 9: one to be pretty difficult to walk away from either
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  Speaker 9: of those guys. I will tell you, Max, I just
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  Speaker 9: interviewed last week at ASU's pro day, a guy who
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  Speaker 9: literally started playing football. He was a juco basketball player,
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  Speaker 9: started playing football, picked up the most difficult position on
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  Speaker 9: the football field and offensive line in my opinion, and
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  Speaker 9: is so just entrenched in his love of the game
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  Speaker 9: right now because it's still so fresh that I could
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  Speaker 9: just see.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I was there.
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  Speaker 9: I watched Mike Rabel and Max have this moment obviously
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  Speaker 9: that everybody captured on camera of the two of them
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  Speaker 9: going at it with hand placement, and I could tell
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  Speaker 9: that Rabel had stars in his eyes when he walked away. Okay,
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  Speaker 9: that's what happened. I watched it. I saw it up
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  Speaker 9: close and personal, and I made a joke with him
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  Speaker 9: because I was like, oh, you.
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  Speaker 10: Are loving that right, like that was a great moment for.
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  Speaker 9: Everybody, but he lost himself for a minute, like it
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  Speaker 9: was like, oh yeah, I'm just playing football again. And
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  Speaker 9: I talked to Max afterwards and he was like, that
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  Speaker 9: was an unreal moment, and I was like, of course,
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  Speaker 9: it was like it's a head coach who was just
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  Speaker 9: coaching in the Super Bowl. That's taking you one on
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  Speaker 9: one to teach you. But the thing about Max is
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  Speaker 9: I had him down at the Senior ball watching him
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  Speaker 9: in the one on ones, and every single D lineman.
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  Speaker 9: I talked to Zion Young about this. I talked to
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  Speaker 9: Chris mcclennan about this. I talked to Caleb Banks about this.
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  Speaker 9: The toughest guy they faced, every single one of them
• 14:25
  Speaker 9: said Max theanateur And to me, and when you talk
• 14:27
  Speaker 9: about his position, versatility and how much he can do
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: the depth that you need to compete at the high
• 14:34
  Speaker 9: level at per offensive line, I would not be surprised
• 14:37
  Speaker 9: if they went with either either him or Blake Miller,
• 14:39
  Speaker 9: both really good guys who I think could provide a
• 14:42
  Speaker 9: lot of depth for any team in the NFL and
• 14:44
  Speaker 9: definitely deserving over first round pick. So if they don't,
• 14:47
  Speaker 9: I could see Vrabel going in that direction because there's
• 14:49
  Speaker 9: no such thing as overdrafting offensive lineman. You always need
• 14:53
  Speaker 9: you always need to protect your quarterback, especially your young guy.
• 14:57
  Speaker 10: And as much as.
• 14:57
  Speaker 9: Drake got hit last year, I would eye, I would say,
• 15:01
  Speaker 9: I'm not mad at all if you go in that direction.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Just one more for you, Page.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Is there a certain player or position group maybe in
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: this draft class you feel like you're particularly passionate about,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: or maybe you feel like hasn't been talked about enough.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, we touched on, you.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Know, maybe two of the three biggest position groups, but
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: what about for you? Is there something we're not talking
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: about enough for a player that maybe needs more mention.
• 15:22
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think as much as I love Kenyan Sadig,
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: I also like a couple other tight ends in this class,
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: including Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt, who I don't think is
• 15:31
  Speaker 9: getting enough love, I'm I'm really excited about that tight
• 15:35
  Speaker 9: end group. I think maybe it's I'm a Chicago girl,
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: so maybe it's me coming off of watching Colston Lovelin
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: have a massive impact. But we're not talking about just
• 15:43
  Speaker 9: Colston Lovely. We're talking about Tyler Warren, Colston love and
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: Brock Bauers. The last few classes a very impactful tight ends,
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: especially for these young guys and quarterbacks turning the corner.
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: You know, we always joke about what's a quarterback's best friend.
• 15:57
  Speaker 10: A tight end.
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: A young quarterback having a really good tight end and
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: they could check the ball down to you. They can
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: they can count on to block and be a part
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: of the game. So to me, there's Kenny and Sadik
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: is when I say, a freak of nature, there is
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: no just like the fluidity, how athletic he is, how
• 16:15
  Speaker 9: how easy it is for him to do everything is unfair. Honestly,
• 16:20
  Speaker 9: as you watch him, you're like, we are not the same.
• 16:22
  Speaker 9: You're just athletically a different version of human Because we
• 16:25
  Speaker 9: are not.
• 16:26
  Speaker 10: I can't do what you do.
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: And watching him was just prepared for the combine was insane.
• 16:32
  Speaker 9: But I think this tight end class I have a
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: lot of love for in this corner class. Honestly, there's
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: a lot of the guys that I really like in
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: this corner class as well. A lot of good smack
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: Fowker's which is a prerequisite for me when you play
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: the position, and a lot of guys that I got
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: to see down at the Senior Bowl that I really
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: like doing real football stuff. So it's hard because this
• 16:52
  Speaker 9: time of the year you get to the Combine and
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: all that. It's a whole lot of stuff that actually
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: is in football. I like to go back to the tape.
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: I like to go back to Senior Bowl. They about
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: the actual football moments that mattered for each of these guys,
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: and if you look at those positions, I think there's
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: a lot of opportunity to draft some good players.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Great stuff.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Well, Paige Demaco's from the Draft Network, Thank you so much,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: appreciate the time.
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: You're welcome. Thanks guys.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: All right, it's time now for our final positional preview
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: here of the twenty twenty six draft season. We're talking
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: tight ends and running backs, two positions i'd say have
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: very different probably levels of need for the Patriots.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: We should kick things off del Chris with the running.
• 17:29
  Speaker 8: Backs and something like that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Did you set us up a little bit? We got
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: you know, Remandre Traveon Henderson.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a full back too. What do you
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: think of that?
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: You got a couple full backs. You got Jack Westover,
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: you got.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Reggie Gilliam Westover, Maddenson.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: In brock Lampy right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: Brock Lamby too, of course could come back. I mean Patriots.
• 17:47
  Speaker 11: I think the Patriots are stacked at fullback right now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: But the running back room, I mean you might want
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: to add a little bit of depth. I mean, you
• 17:55
  Speaker 11: got both guys. Uh, you know, you don't know what
• 17:58
  Speaker 11: direction you're gonna here with the draft. I mean could
• 18:02
  Speaker 11: be looking like more of a Day three sort of
• 18:05
  Speaker 11: area for the Patriots.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Mab a flyer.
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna be a flyer.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, crazy though, because I do kind of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: have like a little bit of something I like with
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the running backs right now, and I just kind of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: like like the the five eight, two twenty pound, like
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the bowling balls, Like I want some short yardage guys.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's maybe a role that I could see
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: at the running back position. Maybe taking a guy like
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: all right, he's never going to be an every down
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Belkow kind of a guy, but if we need one yard,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: this compact little guy is.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Going to be able to get it for us. I'm
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just talking specific types though.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I have one name in mind for you with that description.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: But I have to say this first. This is the
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: worst running back class I've ever seen, And I'm saying
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: that as the in the nicest possible way. Uh But
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I've been covering the draft since twenty seventeen. I have
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: not seen a running back class that as bad before.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Besides Jeremiah Love, this is a rough group, and especially
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: when you compare it to the group last year, which
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: was absolutely stacked at this position.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Like we're talking about a group last.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Year that had like Cam Scattaboos, like the ten or
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: eleventh best running back in the entire class. Cam Scataboo
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: might be the second best running back in this class.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: You know, Love is an elite prospect. You know, he's
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: a blue chipper, maybe the best player in the draft.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: But after that it gets rough. And you know, his
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: teammate from Notre Dame is not bad, and Mike Washington
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Markansas is okay. But then you start to kind of,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: you know, get into some dreads, some dark times with
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: this running back class. You guys know how much I
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: love the draft. I slocked through this group of running backs.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I couldn't do it. It was that bad. That being said,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: there are a couple of guys, you know, I think
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: specifically you're looking for a third running back that maybe
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: has a skill set to either do deuce his thing
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: like short yardage or catch some passes out of the backfield.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: And I think a big thing too for the Patriots
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: is going to be kickoff return ability because as a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: third running back, whether it was Terrell Jennings or Dearnest
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Johnson or whoever, Antonio Gibson third running back was a
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: primary kickoff returner for this team last year. So that
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: spot's gonna be involved in returning kicks. So you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Diamont Claybourne, Adam Randall, you know, players like that that
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: can do that, I think are gonna have some value
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: to the Patriots. But if there's some guys that you
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: guys like, I'm not saying don't like them. I was
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: telling you that this is not.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: A good great But me, let's talk a little.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Bit about Jeremiah Loved who's just at the top because
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I mean he ran with a four to three six think.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just an absolute beast. He's gonna come
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: in and change a team. I know I've seen you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: know less so with the Kansas City thing lately in
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the mock draft, but you know, some team's gonna he's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: one of those backs it's worth a first round pick,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and then what are we going to the third round
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: before the next guy gets picked?
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: Maybe?
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know, his teammate there at Notre
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Dame and Mike Washington, I think probably have a chance
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: to go top seventy five, top hundred. But you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: it's it's slim pickens. You know, after Jeremiah Love, he's uh,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: he's a great player. And you know, we've had some
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: great running backs the last handful of years, and you
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: know Ashton gent and Bijon and then Jamiir Gibbs and
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: you know, players of that caliber. And I think that
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: he's right in that category with like you know, Saquon,
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Bijon genty, true blue chip elite prospects. You know, the
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: running back value. We did this with gent last year.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Where does that fall? Genti ended up going six to
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: the Raiders, So you know, maybe that's where his ceiling is.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I think the Titans have to link long and hard
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: about it too, where they're picking those So they're four,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: right if I'm mistaken, So maybe maybe.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Tennessee we find seven. Go ahead, t he's who you got,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: I got I got three three guys just because Obviously
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: running back is not the biggest need for us, so
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: I'm just looking at something different. So I had Mike
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: Washington really just swing passes, don't let him get outside.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: A guy that you might like is Leveon Moss just
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: he can block short yards. But the one that sticks
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: out to me is Eli Heid and Rich is that
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: pronouncing that right? Reich's he's the Navy guy, but he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: he's a bit of everything, jack of all trades. Can
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: play slot, running back, probably a little tight end. He
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: tied the school record for receiving touchdowns, which isn't a
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: big deal at Navy. And yeah, career rushing yards like
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: almost two thousand, so or yeah, receiving yards.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe a slot receiver though, I think that yeah, he's
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: if not only just because of the Navy thing, but
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: just also the role that he projects to play.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: If Bill Belichick was still here.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: This would be every single mock draft in under the
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: sun for the Patriots.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: What have you like?
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And he's just a damn football player.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: He really smooth.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Route runner out of the backfield, I think is what
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: stands out the most with him. I think he's a
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: pass catching back, but he does play a little bit
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: of receiver as well. You know, I think there's some
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: lazy patriots of old comps there, like a Rex Burkhead
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: or something like that, but that type of player. But
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: like I said, you know, if Josh McDaniel still wants
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: to use a running back in that capacity, like Bill
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Belichick did, you know for twenty plus years here, we
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: would just be spamming the Navy running back if he
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: was still here.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: That being said, though, like you've mentioned, this isn't a
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: great running back class, but at least that's the one
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: position you can pick some dude up off the street.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: So there's some free agency options out there too.
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, a couple of guys I like you to kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 11: of pig back off a tease. Darian Price. We talked
• 23:12
  Speaker 11: about him behind Jeremiah Love. I mean, he wasn't Jeremiah
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: Love for Notre Dame. But he's he's a stud running back.
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: In my opinion, I think he's a solid playmaker. He's
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: more of your ground and pound guy, kind of used
• 23:24
  Speaker 11: his strength.
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: Disability, but also has the.
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: Speed and the ability to kind of break free and
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: get himself downfield. Really well, you see him a lot
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: of breakout place from him this past season and Jonah
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: Coleman from Washington also another.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Guy that deuces guy.
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: It's about your man not afraid to find the end zone,
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: that's for sure. I saw something. He scored thirty five
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: touchdowns in fifty games playing in college football.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Afraid of the He'll go right into it and score.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: No.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: But big playability lot like Jendarium Price, Like big playability guy,
• 24:03
  Speaker 11: like something that you know can provide a little bit
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: of a spark.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I's really like, I like Colin Colemson going I.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: The only one I had was k Tron Allen, which
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: is similar at Condy and maybe a little bit bigger,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: but you know, pile mover those kind of guys. That
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: was kind of the traits I was looking for. But
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like I have a block on running backs
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: like I just every year. And it's not even specific
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to this being a bad class. It's just no, that's
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: like the one position.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Every time I watched it, I'm like, I don't know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: he looked.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You know, It's like you can tell a bigger small
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: they are, and how quick they are, but otherwise it's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: like is it going to translate? You kind of have
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to get here, but give us anybody you want to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: take us home on there.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think the two guys that you know
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: they've showed some interest in, or Adam Randall from Clemson,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: who is cord Aero Patterson two point zero, Like he's
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: just a six foot three, two thirty converted receiver, played
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: receiver early on in his career at Clemson, had to
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: move to running back because he doesn't really have the
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: ball skills to play receiver, so he was, you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: kind of I think I don't really have to say
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: much more than Quardial Patterson.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Like it's literally the same player.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: It looks very similar SI two thirty with a four
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: or five great straight line speed. He can throw them
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: a little swing passes and you know, screens and things
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: like that out of the backfield, getting going in space.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I really like it when they threw him some like
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: little downfield kind of swing screen passes where they sort
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: of allowed him to get some momentum into the line
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage and run with the football. And then when
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: you see that, you know he had some kickoff returns
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: I think maybe a dozen in college, but when you
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: saw him get out on the perimeter on some of
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: those swing passes and flares, and things like that and
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: get you know vertical. You're like, okay, there's the kickoff,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: you know, straight line speed that he could bring to
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: the table. Kaylin Black from Indiana is the other one
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: that they've showed some interest in. He's you know, just
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: your classic get what's blocked back Like, He's not gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: color outside the lines very much. He's very efficient. He's
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: not very dynamic or creative or elusive or any of
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: like the flashy stuff. But he's just gonna kind of
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: get the job done, push the pile at the end.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: They're looking for that true just sort of a third
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: running back. You know, I always use Ben Jarvis green
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: ellis right, Like.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: If you're looking for that kind of guy, then Black.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Is probably the one. If you're looking for a little
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: bit more pizzads, then that would probably be Randall. If
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: you're Josh McDaniels, you know, McDaniels had Patterson, and I
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: would just think that he would have some fun with
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: a guy like Adam.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Randall is kind of an offensive weapon.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, honorable mention Sulton.
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I just think his brute strength and his ability
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: to move with that type of strength is very impressive.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: And I mean I think you broke sake one squat record, right, yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: He's that that moves my needle right there here. Good
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: for you, but good pulls. You know, we'll see and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: those guys that haven't mentioned. I'm looking here at the
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Beast Power, you know, the the rankings, and those are
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: all you know, Day three kind of guys. So that's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: it makes sense. Patriots got a bunch of picks there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Let's flip over to tight end though, and this is
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: a position that we've been talking about all spring long.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: The Patriots and Brable have been talking about this position.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Uh know, they did go out and make a signing,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: you know with blanket on Julian Hill, thank you. Uh
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you know, more of maybe more of a blocker, and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: so you got a balance hunter Henry getting up there
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit though. You'd love to have some long
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: term stability there. Brabel talked about this spring like you know,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you always see these mid round guys popping up.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: You got multiple tight end sets.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I mean last year look what the Rams did with
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you know, three tight ends, four tight ends. I think
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: feel like it feels to me like Rabel kind of
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: wants to get to that point. And I know we
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: all have our favorites, and I mean, let's just start
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: real quick with Sadik and I think he's the guy
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that stands above everybody else. And the conversations we've all
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: had is that it's easy to see a guy like
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that fitting into the offense.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: He's probably not coming to New England, but if you
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: can find a.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Real move kind of a guy who's got all the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you know, all of the measurables, the build, I mean everything.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Talk about players that Josh Josh McDaniels could have some
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: fun with. Sure, seems like Kenyon sidek wuld be warm.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but all right, I just feel like this is
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: one of the few players we talked about Peu that
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: I would trade up for. He's a player where like
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Hunter Henry he's still got He's thirty one, but you drafted,
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: you don't need to worry about tight end for the
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: next seven years probably, And he's I think he's plug
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: and play freak athlete, Like it'll be awesome, but I
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: just don't think it's gonna happen.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, He's definitely near the top of
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: my list, you know, my wish list for the Patriots,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: just remembering watching you know, Oregon's offense in his like
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: underclassman seasons and being like, who the heck is this
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: tight end that keeps on just you know, making plays
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: all over the field. And now it's time for him
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: to go in the draft himself. And I think the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: only thing that you look at with him that might
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: hold some teams back is his size. You know, he's
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: only six three, two and forty pounds, so he's not
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Tyler Warren like, He's not one of these like six
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: six Rob Gronkowski to fifty five type of tight ends.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: He is a little bit smaller. You know, he's probably
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: more of like a Johnny Smith, Harold Fan and junior
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: model of a tight end. But you know, the straight
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: line speed is rare at Dad's size. You know, the
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: ability to get down the field and stretch the teams
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: and wheel routes you know, out of the backfield, you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: off the wing. You know, those types of things are
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: are not normal at two hundred and forty five pounds,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: He's got some separation quickness. I think he can block
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: a little bit better than some of the scouting reports
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: you read about suggest. You know, when I first started
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: getting into his film, there are some concerns because of
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: his frame about his blocking, but I think he's a
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: pretty solid blocker as well. But you know, he won't
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: be the prototype for everybody. You know, he's a little
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: bit undersized, but that I don't really care, to be honest,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: and he during the film on he's he's really good.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Let me just pause things for a second here, just
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: how do you guys feel generally about balancing the blocking
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: and the receiving, because there's a lot of really good
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: receiving tight.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Ends and this is the game now.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you need offense like and it's great, Yes,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: you need guys who can block too, But at the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: same time, I find myself going more and more towards
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a guy like Max Clair, and I really liked him.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like we spend all our time of talking
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: about delpin Rauch.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: There, you know, kind of the guys.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And when I've I first watched all these guys like
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Claire really stood out to me and you know, not
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: exactly like Travis Kelcey, but just he's not really he's slight,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: he's not thick, but he just moves like a really
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: good athlete. And that to me is when I'm looking
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: trying to give Drake May outlets and trying to give
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: him guys that can, you know, do different things that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Josh can play with. I look at a guy like
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Max Claaren and you know Oscar Dell probably in that
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: same kind of mold of you know, maybe didn't have
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the crazy production, maybe they were.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Limited because of the guys around them or the scheme
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: But I see both those guys as just having huge
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: potential and the potential to come in and play right
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: away and be a real weapon for Drake May.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's the question about the blocking.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: And I probably harp more on the blocking than most
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: people because I think about it from a defense's perspective,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: and we start getting into like personnel matching of you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: if you're in twelve personnel, you know, two tight end sets,
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: but your tight ends can't block, then like I have
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: no reason to put base defense on the field against you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: So now those matchups that you're trying to in the
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: middle of the field against linebackers and safeties, they're not
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: going to exist as much as they would if you
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: have to put another linebacker on the field and take
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: the nickel corner off. Now you're getting tight ends matched
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: up against guys that they can win foot races against
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: more consistently. So when you look at that sort of thing,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: like when you look at a guy like an Eli
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Stoweres for example, I think Max Claire can block like
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: a tiny little bit. You know, he's probably out of
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: this group, the one that reminds me the most of
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Hunter Henry.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You know, in terms of.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Del Broush Stower's Claire, I'd say Claire plays the most
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: like Hunter Henry, who isn't a big time blocker but
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: can hold his own and isn't a total you know,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: non factor as a blocker as well. I would say that,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: you know, when you get to those Stowers types or
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: like the Trigs on day three, I'm treating those guys
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: like receivers if I'm a coach, And so at that
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: point you're not getting the matchups, you're not getting the
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: looks that you want. Basically, you want to be able
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to either run the football out of twelve personnel against
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: lighter groupings and over or you know, run them over,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: or you want to make them react and put base
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: defense on the field and now you can throw it
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: over them. And if you can't get them to react
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: to your personnel like that, that's when you start to
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: get into trouble. And I think that looking across the league,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: you know, the example I always go to is the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. Dalton Kinkaid is a great player, Like he
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: can play, he's a matchup nightmare, but he can't block.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: So why do they have Dawson Knox and Jackson Hawes
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: on their roster Because they need somebody that can block
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: in line to play Dawson Dalton Kinkaid. So in a
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: lot of ways, if you ask me, like Dawson Knox
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: is a more valuable player to them than Dalton Kinkaid
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: because he can play at all situations. He can put
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: his hand in the dirt and block. So they drafted
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: Kinkaid in the first round and then paid Dawson Knox
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: and then drafted Jackson Hawes because they were like, oh crap,
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: this guy can't do anything for us in the run game. So,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: as a long winded answer, but I think that the
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: main crux of it is the players like Dalton Kinkaid
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: have become pass game players. You know, those guys are
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: going to play on third down, gonna play situations. They're
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: not going to play every single down, and I don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: know how much value that has to certain teams. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: I think Mike Rabel might like a guy that can
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: play in all situations.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: You got Jillian Hills, so maybe you can have.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you mentioned Tray earlier.
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: I really like Michael Trag and like his his wingspan
• 33:19
  Speaker 11: and catch radius, Like you don't really see guys like that,
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: I feel like, and somebody that has hands like him
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: and can kind of see you downfield and be an
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: actual target and a weapon. Like I think that's such
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: a key part in offenses today. And I think we're
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: talking about these different guys and can help in the
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: run game and all that, But I feel like there's
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: a lot of value in today's offense where if you
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: have a tight end that can get downfield and be
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: an actual weapon and threat to defenses, you free up
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: your other wide receivers like Keyshaun Bood. You give them
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: more looks or like people like that who can actually
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: step up and make more plays because people are worried
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: about that tight end.
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, got he took Trag from me, but also that
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: Noah Kowski Riley from the end. I'm probably not saying
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: this last name right, But you know, I always like
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: to take somebody from a championship team. But you know,
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: similar to the running backs like Hunter, Henry can still
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: play like he's thirty one. So trying to look at
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: something that if you don't get Sadique, something that we
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: don't have, which is a bit more blocking. So I
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: had him. I also had Dinkins, just freak athlete. He's
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: uh Khalil Dinkins from State YEA.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So two or two other ones. I just I mean we've,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: like I said, we've been talking about Sam Rousch. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: feel like and he's he's a big bore guy for me.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a great blocker, but I him and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Joe Royer were two guys.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Who kind of tough guys. Tough guys. Roy a little tight.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he's ever going to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: be much of a receiving threat. But you know that's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to Evan's point. You know, if you're trying to find
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: a blocker like that, to me, it's not sexy. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you get a guy like Rausch in the building and
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you've got that like blocking te two for as long
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: as you want him, and those pieces are valuable. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: just it's it seems like by the time that I
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: get to the mock drafts and I get to that point,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I'm always kind of picking because of how these mock
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: drafts are laid out, like and here's Sam Rouche and
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: they a tight end. So I got, you know, I
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: just I wonder if they're going to go off the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: beaten path and be like draft two guys on day
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: three that they love that we're a little you know
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: that we might not even mention today. I don't know
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: how they'll approach it, but it's a really interesting.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: Point where do you think the tight end selection happens.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: So I really think the third and fourth round is
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: a sweet spot for that position because I think Sadik
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: is obviously in a tier of his zone. I don't
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: know if there's another guy that I would take between
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: one and ninety five at that point, you know, first
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: round in ninety five, because I'm not a big starers guy,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: as I just wax poetic about how I hate guys
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: that can't block, so just go put your little slot
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: receivers over there, and then you know, I think Del
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: is exciting, but he only had twenty catches last year,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: and he only had seventy over the course of his
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: career at Georgia, and some of that was injury related,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: some of that was role related.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: You know, that is a projection.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: You are taking his athleticism and his frame and his
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: athletic profile and saying that this guy is to have
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: a higher volume role in the NFL. So you're kind
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: of you're projecting, you're kind of hoping a little bit there.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Raush, I really really like.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: But I do think the arm length and the radius
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: do show up on film at times, you know, with
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: his blocking and sustaining skills as a blocker, as catch
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: radius as a pass catcher, with those short arms and
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: that short wingspan, I think it does flash at times.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be a big time
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: red zone guy because he's not going to be able
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: to go up and get the ball as consistently as
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: some other guys. So to me that those guys, I
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: think they're third rounders. Like I think it's we get
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: really excited about these people, these players, and people start
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: to push him up boards and you guys mentioned Trig,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: you know him and Justin Jolly were considered top one
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: hundred guys when I started the process back in February,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: and now all of a sudden they have trickled down
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: to like the fourth or fifth round. You know, Trig
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: has a lot to do with his personality and character concerns.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: You know, teams have concerns about his work, ethic, just
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: his overall vibe in his character, has some you know things.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: In his past.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not not exactly like a clean evaluation justin Jolly
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: is just you know, a little small, little stiff. You know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: he's kind of like Day three Kenyon Sadiq, and so
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know how teams feel exactly about him. You know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: Eli raared In another guy that maybe have some concerns
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: too about you know, effort and physicality and all that
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: kind of kind of stuff. Injuries, So you know, those
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: are guys that when I started this whole thing, were,
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: you know, either in the top one hundred on the
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: consensus board or like fringe top one hundred. Guys that
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: are maybe getting knocked down a little bit now for Delp,
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: for Raush, for Claire, I'd say maybe a little bit
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: for Jack Injuries from Texas.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: So Injuries is a guy that I really like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: In the fourth round, you know, if they're not able
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: to get Delp or Raush at ninety five, like Injuries
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: at one twenty five or one thirty one, I think
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense. Kind of similar to Claire
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. I would say, like I
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: could probably use Hunter Henry as a pro comparison for
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: both of those players. You know, good receivers, decent speed,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: good knack for the position, and getting open as a
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: pass catcher, you know that sort of thing, and then
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: we can get into the sleepers. You know, then we
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: get into the real deep cuts on day three. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: that's sort of the cluster. I think that's sort of
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: the stack is It starts with Delp.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Raush, Claire.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Then you get into you know, the injuries and those
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: guys and Trig and Jolly and.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then we're out the fourth round.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, just looking how the Beast stacks him up.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's only got four guys to cut off
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: at Delp in between him and Jolly of that's the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: only first day two guys that you know, Yeah, the restaurant.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: I think if you're looking at to draft somebody at
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: sixty three, it all depends on how you feel about
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Eli Stowers. If you're convinced that Eli Stowers is going
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: to be such a mismatch weapon for you in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: passing game that it's not going to matter. And look,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: I watched his tape against Alabama and they threw him
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: a shovel pass a little like RPO shovel where they
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: threw him the ball on a shovel pass and he
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: took it like forty yards, you know, just like sneaking
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: through the defense like a running back. You know, he's
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: got rare movement skills. He just can't block for a lick,
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Like he's just not going to do any of that. So,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: like you know, I kind of compared him to like
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: a Get SICKI or Ronda Gads and someone like that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: That's really a wide receiver.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: So if you really like that, and they, you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: decide that they really like a guy like Stores, then
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: he's in play. At sixty three, I think it's a
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: little early for delper Roush at sixty three.
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you keep talking about Stores. I am
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: a guy I really like Stores. I do think there's
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: a lot to like about his ability to work downfield.
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: And again, like you said, it is just turning small
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: plays into big games, Like he does it really well.
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: And I think that's a big thing and the Patriots.
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna make this point because it's just kind of
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: been bugging me for the last five minutes. But man,
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: Julian Hill is you're supposed to be after that signing,
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: you're like run blocking tight end and then you have
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: the Hunter Henry. You can kind of do both good
• 40:00
  Speaker 11: in the passing game, good in the running game, kind
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: of trust them with either thing. I feel like a
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: lot of teams, I mean, you mentioned the Bill is
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: a great example kind of have that three tier system
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: for tight ends, and I feel like there is value
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: having somebody who is more of a receiver than a blocker,
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: because you can get better as a blocker when you're
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: receiving tight end, like just so you can get better
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: as a receiver as a blocking tend.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: Like there's ways to work on things. And that's why I.
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: Feel very highly of Stowers and I feel like there's
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: a lot of value there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: But if there's a spot form you know, there's a
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: spot that you can see him come in and contribute,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: whereas you know wide receiver, especially later in the draft,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: like it's hard to see their route to the field,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you can see it with with a move tight end.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think that you know the role for him.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: And if they feel really strongly about Julian Hill, which
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: is what I think they do after they gave him
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: a three year contract, you know, can he be Jackson
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Hawes to Dalton Kincaid right and do that sort of thing,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: and maybe Julian Hill is really your in line option.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: And like I said, situationally, you know two minutes, you
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: know those types of situations, eleven personnel packages on third down,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: you know Stowers is going to come in and he's
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: basically just another receiver that you can play games with.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: And there's definitely value in that. I mean, his receiving
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: skills are very, very good, and I could see that.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: I just I get weary of you know that, is
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: you're drafting that at sixty three for him to play?
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: How what percentage of the snaps realistically is he going
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: to play? And are you going to use one of
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: your first two picks and a top seventy five pick
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: on a guy that's only going to play on third down?
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And is that really worth it?
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Now if you get down to ninety five and that
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: player is still available, that's a different story.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: But I have to imagine.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: I'm not in the Buffalo Bill's front office, nor am
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: I in the Patriots front office, but I'd.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Have to imagine if you gave the Bills some.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Truth serum about Dalton Kinkaid, they kind of regret it,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: right because, like you know, injuries is certainly a big
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: part of it too. But you know, he just doesn't
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: have a full time role. So I think this same
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: thing about stores, you know, but there's no doubt there's
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: a role for him. It's just going to be complimentary
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: to a true kind of why tight end. You know
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: you're gonna have to have both on the roster.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, guys, Well I think that's going to wrap
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: up all our productions.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I do some day.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Three guys, do you have to?
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I do, I have to.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Okay, there's a couple of guys that we have to
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: talk about. Marlin Klein from Michigan I think is a
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: big one German born prospect. Late to football obviously, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: really good movement skills, really good explosiveness, like especially early
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: in the route. I thought, uh competes's butt off in
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: the run game. Probably needs a lot of technique work
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: in that regard, but the effort in the finishes there.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Nate Boorkicker from Texas A and M another high effort
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: run blocker, good motor, Maybe some untapped potential there in
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: terms of receiving ability, I would say, and then Wilkes
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Merrick from Ohio State is another one that if you
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: want that prototypical in line, why tight end you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: he's an option for you there too.
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  Speaker 4: But I really like Cline.
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  Speaker 5: I think that he's one of those guys that he's
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: already pretty good and he hasn't really played football for
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: that long. So if you keep developing him and keep
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: working with him, then it'll be fun. Plus it'd be
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: fun to have another jud german.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I know whole market real quick, though, Guys, We've done
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: all these positional previews and I know you guys were
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: in out on some of them. But favorite position group
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: this year I'll go first. I'm gonna say the edge class.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just think there's a lot of guys,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of different flavors, and I'm excited really from
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: day one through day three to see potential patriots in
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that in that position group.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: I'm going to edge just by need. I think there's
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: a lot of options there. It can't really go wrong.
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  Speaker 7: But you know me, I'm hoping we trade up. I
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: guess I'll jump out. I'll go I'm gonna go defensive
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: tackle since you both said edge. But I think it's
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: a one A one B for me. Yeah, I think,
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: you know, defensive tackles. There's just so many beasts on
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: the front.
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: I mean, I love myself, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it depends on your you know, defensive tackle this
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: year is all about the nose tackle those tackles back.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: If you're in that sort of thing, right, it's close.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: I would between linebacker and safety.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: For me, I'd probably go linebacker though, you know, when
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: you start at the top, you know, just with Anthony
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Hill Junior and C. J. Allen and Jacob Rodriguez and
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Jake Golday and Harold Perkins, and I think that there's
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of talent at that position. This is one
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: of the better linebacker classes in the last couple of years,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: and I feel like the league needed it, like they
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: needed an infusion a good linebacker class. There's a lot
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: of you know, Kyle Lewis's too that can you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: play a little bit of safety maybe and kind of
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: cross some lines there.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Hybrid style.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: So I really like the linebackers, but Dynaman and McNeil
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Warren are two crushes of mine in the safety group too,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: so it's a good group there as well.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: There you go, well, and thank you guys everybody for
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: joining us here over the Patriots Draft Countdown.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Got just one week to go before the draft, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: we will have.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: One more live hour from one pm to two pm
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: on Thursday four twenty three, the first day of the draft.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You know, just.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Pregame jitters, getting it all out. You know, we'll be
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: here getting ready for the big Patriots Draft show that night,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: so we'll hope you join us then, coming up quick.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you there, right, h