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Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Scoop: Toronto trade plans, Buxton’s veto, Vegas pop + Orgs w/the most injuries · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Let's do the inside scoop with Ken Rosenthal AFT Senior Insider,
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Speaker 1: and we're going to start with the Toronto Blue Jays.
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Speaker 1: Ken so close to winning the World Series last year.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely been a rollercoaster for them to start the season.
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Speaker 1: Dylan ceases now back for Toronto. What do you think
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Speaker 1: their thoughts are heading into this now stretch run for
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Speaker 1: the next month and a half before the trade deadline?
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Speaker 1: How aggressive you think they could be and what their
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Speaker 1: needs could be.
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Speaker 2: Their thoughts are first to get healthy with the pitching staff,
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Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, Scott cease tonight, Max Scherzer returns tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Bieber Shane Bieber is on a rehabilitation assignment and he
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Speaker 2: is on his going to make his next start on Thursday.
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Speaker 2: So things seemingly are coming together for them with regard
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Speaker 2: to their rotation.
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Speaker 3: What they really need above all right now is for
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Speaker 3: Vlad Junior to get hot, and it has not happened
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Speaker 3: the entire season. They're getting a great year out of
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Speaker 3: Ernie Clement, They've gotten some other good contributions of our
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Speaker 3: shows out right now. I expect them to be aggressive.
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Speaker 3: I expect them to buy. But as we sit here
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Speaker 3: almost two months still away. Their needs are not necessarily
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Speaker 3: clearly defined. You always want pitching, of course, and bullpen depth, yes,
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Speaker 3: of course, But I want to see more from them,
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Speaker 3: and I imagine they want to see more just in
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Speaker 3: terms of where they are with their health, with Lad,
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Speaker 3: with the offense in general, because right now the offense
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Speaker 3: is or has been in and out and that's not
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Speaker 3: what we've seen or we've expected from the Blue Jays
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Speaker 3: coming into this year, Ken.
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Speaker 4: Can the Blue Jays turn it around, yes, but it's
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Speaker 4: because of the weak American League. Will they win the division?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I think they might be a little bit too far behind,
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Speaker 4: maybe already two teams in that division. But if they
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Speaker 4: get into the wild card and they make the right moves,
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Speaker 4: they can be dangerous, right because eventually Vlad's gonna get going.
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Speaker 4: If you have C's and you have Gosman Laarlin the
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Speaker 4: way he's pitched the back end this team, if they
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Speaker 4: get in, I think can be very dangerous.
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Speaker 3: No question, AJ. And the funny thing is, with the
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Speaker 3: American League being as mediocre as it's been, a lot
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Speaker 3: of teams feel the same way. I would imagine even
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Speaker 3: some teams on the Fringes right now, the Orioles, the Twins,
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Speaker 3: even the Red Sox, as poorly as they've played, are thinking, hmm,
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Speaker 3: one or two moves, we get hot, we get right
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Speaker 3: back into this thing. Kansas City another team that has disappointed,
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Speaker 3: but because of the way this league is shaping up,
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Speaker 3: still has a chance now. With specific regard to the
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Speaker 3: Blue Jays, they absolutely will see themselves that way, and
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Speaker 3: other teams see them that way too. I remember speaking
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Speaker 3: with someone from the Yankees a couple of weeks ago
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Speaker 3: who said, at the time when Tampa Bay was hot, yes,
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay is hot. Toronto is still the team I'm
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Speaker 3: most worried about. So they're absolutely a threat. The question
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Speaker 3: is just when are they going to get going? And
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Speaker 3: as we saw last year, I'll point to this example,
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Speaker 3: the New York Mets last year at this time were
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Speaker 3: a dominant force in the game. They were incredible, their
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Speaker 3: rotation was outstanding, and they completely fell apart. It can
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Speaker 3: work in reverse as well, as it did for Cleveland
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Speaker 3: last season toward the end. So even though it's not early,
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Speaker 3: it's also not late. And it's also not a situation
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Speaker 3: where we are close enough to the deadline to really
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Speaker 3: judge or understand what teams might want to do.
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Speaker 5: But with everybody muddled like this, I don't remember a
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Speaker 5: year where everybody in one league is muddled and they're
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Speaker 5: all kind of five hundred. Could we see a jump
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Speaker 5: on the trade deadline? I know it's usually like everybody waits,
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Speaker 5: nobody wants to overpay. But right now, if you are
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Speaker 5: in that muddled group, if you make a jump today
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Speaker 5: or in a week from now, now, all of a
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Speaker 5: sudden you can jump ahead of all the other group.
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Speaker 3: It's a fair rushen eric. But every single year, every
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Speaker 3: year we hear, oh, things might happen earlier this year,
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Speaker 3: this talk this year, and it never seems to develop
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Speaker 3: that way. We will see early trades from time to
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Speaker 3: time arise Raphael Devers, which was driven by other outside factors,
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Speaker 3: of course, but generally speaking, you don't really see trades
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Speaker 3: this time of year. And the Red Sox have been looking,
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Speaker 3: for instance, for a right handed bat for really the
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Speaker 3: better part of a month now haven't found one, or
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Speaker 3: at least haven't made a trade for one. Why because
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Speaker 3: certain teams aren't ready to act, because it's just not
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Speaker 3: the appropriate time just yet. The pirates looking for bullpen
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Speaker 3: help actively not yet there, so you'll see teams try
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Speaker 3: and you may see a move or two in June.
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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised by that, but just because
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Speaker 3: of what we are experiencing here with, as you said,
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Speaker 3: the muddled race, I don't expect that to necessarily change
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Speaker 3: the dynamics of the deadline.
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Speaker 4: Ken. Let's talk about my favorite team and your second
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Speaker 4: favorite team, the White Sox. They called up Braid Montgomery today.
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Speaker 4: They've got TiAl Is gonna come back at some point.
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Speaker 4: They've already called up a bunch of their prospects. What
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Speaker 4: are they gonna do because right now they're the second
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Speaker 4: wild card and they're in this race with Cleveland they're
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Speaker 4: right behind them. They've been super exciting this year. Are
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Speaker 4: the White Sox gonna buy and try to make a
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Speaker 4: run at this thing in the American League? Are they
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Speaker 4: gonna do the old We're one year ahead, so we're
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Speaker 4: gonna wait trick.
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Speaker 3: Actually, my expectation is there'll be somewhere in between, and
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Speaker 3: kind of like the Cardinals. The White Sox general manager
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Speaker 3: Chris Getz has already said, we're not going to ignore
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Speaker 3: what is happening on the field. We will try to
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Speaker 3: upgrade if this continues, and I expect that will happen,
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Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, they're bringing up braidon Montgomery are
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Speaker 3: really talented outfield or an exciting player guy who's dominated
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Speaker 3: Double A and Triple A this year. So they're going
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Speaker 3: to look at what they have internally before they make
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Speaker 3: any final judgment. And I was looking this morning. Aj
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Speaker 3: Right now there's seventh in the majors in runs per game, seventh,
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Speaker 3: and that's before calling up Braid in Montgomery. So offensively,
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Speaker 3: even without Laakami, who will be back, they remain in
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Speaker 3: a really good place pitching staff. They've gotten some good
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Speaker 3: work out of their rotation, even beyond Davis Martin. But
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Speaker 3: I would expect that would be the spot the rotation
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Speaker 3: where you'd want to upgrade, as well as the bullpen.
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Speaker 3: I would still love to see them get a lockdown closer,
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Speaker 3: but to accomplish all that in one offseat, one trade deadline,
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Speaker 3: I don't see that happening with the White Sox. My
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Speaker 3: expectation is they'll be judicious, but they won't be inactive,
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Speaker 3: So you may see moves around the edges, maybe even
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Speaker 3: see a bigger move, but they are ahead of schedule,
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Speaker 3: like the Cardinals are ahead of schedule, and they're not
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Speaker 3: going to abandon what they've built simply for one year.
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Speaker 3: They want to build something more sustainable than that. And
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Speaker 3: we'll see how it all transpires and how aggressive Chris
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Speaker 3: gets is because this is a huge surprise. Both those
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Speaker 3: teams I'm talking about, the Cardinals and the White Sox
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Speaker 3: huge surprises unexpected. The Nationals are another one. I don't
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Speaker 3: expect them to buy either, but it's really interesting to
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Speaker 3: see what is going on in the sport with some
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Speaker 3: of these clubs.
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Speaker 5: All right, Well, let's go to AJ's second favorite Chicago team,
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Speaker 5: the Cubs, who are now tied with the Pirates. The
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Speaker 5: Cubs spent this year, the Pirates spent this year. Does
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Speaker 5: this trade deadline look the same for both teams? Because
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Speaker 5: they're both tied, they're both a half game out, they're
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Speaker 5: both eight out of the Central I think one team's
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Speaker 5: playing a little bit better than the other one. But
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Speaker 5: the trade deadline. Do these front offices attack the trade
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Speaker 5: deadline the same way?
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect it to be the same way. I
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Speaker 3: would expect the Cubs to be more aggressive because historically
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Speaker 3: they've been more aggressive, and they were even more aggressive
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Speaker 3: in the offseason with the things that they did now.
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Speaker 3: Jed Hoyer, president baseball operations for the Cubs, had some
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Speaker 3: really interesting comments last week, basically saying, you don't go
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Speaker 3: and plunge in unless you feel you have a chance
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Speaker 3: at a buy and I understood what he was saying.
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Speaker 3: It's not just about making the playoffs anymore, because let's
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Speaker 3: face it, a lot of teams make the playoffs, and
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Speaker 3: just getting to the playoffs isn't enough to justify a
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Speaker 3: kind of an all in move. So he wants to
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Speaker 3: see more from his team, and understandably so. They are,
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Speaker 3: I believe, five and six since their ten game losing streak,
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Speaker 3: which would make it sixteen out of their last twenty
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Speaker 3: one they've lost. Not good. So that's where the Cubs
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Speaker 3: are now. The Pirates, they're an interesting club too, because
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Speaker 3: they do have still some pieces they can move. They've
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Speaker 3: got depth, relative depth in their starting rotation and pieces
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Speaker 3: that other teams would want. This is even after trading
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Speaker 3: Oviedo and Burrows in the off season, so I don't
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Speaker 3: know that they would want to do that. But they
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Speaker 3: have to figure out the bullpen. They've got to get
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Speaker 3: better there and maybe mcjinski will help in that regard offensively,
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Speaker 3: they too have been pretty good, and Connor Griffin will
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Speaker 3: come back. He had done well for them as the
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Speaker 3: season had progressed. So I'm not sure what exactly they
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Speaker 3: would want beyond bullpen, but I do expect that they
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Speaker 3: understand this is a big season for them. That's why
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Speaker 3: they were aggressive in the off season, and they're not
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Speaker 3: going to simply be quiet at the deadline because historically
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Speaker 3: that's what they've been.
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Speaker 5: Well, that's what I was, That's kind of what I
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Speaker 5: why I brought it up, and then being the same,
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Speaker 5: the Cubs were very aggressive this offseason, and as far
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Speaker 5: as relativity, the Pirates were very aggressive. So that's aggressive,
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Speaker 5: but both teams it'll be up from other times.
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Speaker 3: I would expect it. Certainly the Pirates case, it would
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Speaker 3: be because this is a big year for them. It's
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Speaker 3: a big year for their president of Baseball Operations Ben
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Speaker 3: Sherrington and their front office in general. But at the
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Speaker 3: same time, aggressiveness is relative, as you said, because it's
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Speaker 3: based on how much you're willing to take on payroll wise,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much willing they will be from
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Speaker 3: the Cubs to boost the payroll when they've already done it.
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Speaker 3: They've got a ton of pitching injuries still, and they'll
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Speaker 3: just have to see where they are come late July
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Speaker 3: and determine then if, for instance, they want to be
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Speaker 3: a serious player. If Trek Scruble is available right now,
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Speaker 3: if I'm the Cubs, I don't know that I can
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Speaker 3: justify it because he's a rental and you're playing for
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Speaker 3: one year with a team that has been up and
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Speaker 3: down and a team that has been hit hard by
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Speaker 3: injuries and underperformance from some of their better hitters, Alex
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Speaker 3: Bregman most prominent among them.
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Speaker 4: Can is there any pressure on Jed Hoyer. I mean,
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Speaker 4: they did go out and spend They did go get
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Speaker 4: Alex Bregman. This was supposed to be a team and
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Speaker 4: they keep losing to the Brewers. They spent mo big
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Speaker 4: money on Craig Counsel to bring him in. Is there
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Speaker 4: any pressure on Jed Hoyer and Craig Council at all?
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Speaker 4: Or is this just like, Hey, they're doing okay. They
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Speaker 4: have a chance to make the post and we'll see
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Speaker 4: what happens.
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Speaker 3: Aj I haven't thought about that. It hasn't occurred to me,
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Speaker 3: in part because Jed Hoyer just got an extension. I
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Speaker 3: believe it was last year, and Council, of course still
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Speaker 3: has years on his contract. If they flop and if
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Speaker 3: they fail to make the playoffs, and Ifregman is not
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Speaker 3: going to be Bregman and all these negative things happen,
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Speaker 3: will there be noise? I would expect there would be noise.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that Tom Ricketts, as their owner, would
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Speaker 3: be particularly proactive with either of those guys. They're committed
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Speaker 3: to those guys, and those guys Hoyer and Council have
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Speaker 3: been mostly good for them, mostly impressive in their roles.
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Speaker 3: So sure there's pressure. And yes, the Brewers thing drives
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Speaker 3: the entire organization battie because they haven't been able to
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Speaker 3: catch them, even when they took their manager, even with
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Speaker 3: all the pieces the Brewers lost. It is one of
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Speaker 3: these things where the Brewers will mean the dominant team
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Speaker 3: in the division. But I don't know that means you
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Speaker 3: fire Craig con or Jed Hoyer.
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Speaker 5: I have a question from the chat see Baseball asked
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Speaker 5: is the Raised lineup too top heavy to be a
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Speaker 5: true penant contender?
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Speaker 3: I believe it is. And when you say top heavy,
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Speaker 3: what you're talking about is Yandi Diaz and Junior Camenero
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Speaker 3: and Jonathan Ronda, and beyond that it's not great. So yes,
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Speaker 3: if they are in the hunt, they would need certainly
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Speaker 3: more offensive help. There's also been speculation talk they would
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Speaker 3: go for a starting pitcher, because of course you can
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Speaker 3: always strengthen your rotation, and they already have a good one,
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Speaker 3: but the bullpen has been their biggest issue. The offense
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Speaker 3: along with that an issue. So yes, if indeed they're
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Speaker 3: still in it, and I expect they will be, I
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Speaker 3: would think that they would go for offense.
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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, the Astros outfield, are they historic going
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Speaker 5: for historically bed on base percentage? And is there a
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Speaker 5: drop dead time for this team to add or not
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Speaker 5: add to that outfield?
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Speaker 3: Right now? They are bad and Chandler Roam of The
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Speaker 3: Athletic has a story today detailing just how feudal they've been. Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that they're approaching a drop dead moment
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Speaker 3: or anything like that, but they have played better, they
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Speaker 3: are getting healthier, and this is a team that, under
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Speaker 3: owner Jim Crane, has taken the position Crane's position that
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Speaker 3: they are not going to rebuild, that they're always going
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Speaker 3: to be trying to win. So all this talk about
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Speaker 3: jury down Alvarez, even Jeremy Panya right now is way premature.
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Speaker 3: Penya maybe in the off season, because they'll be in
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Speaker 3: the same position Kyle Tucker was when the Astros traded
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Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker. But this team, in this league, the American
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Speaker 3: League again, is not going to concede easily, and I
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily see them conceding at all. They do need
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Speaker 3: to upgrade the outfield, They do need to look at
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Speaker 3: some other areas as well. But Hater is back now,
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Speaker 3: Two Bay is back now. They want to see how
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Speaker 3: they perform over the next six weeks or so before
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Speaker 3: addressing what might be some needs. I'm sure they're out
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Speaker 3: there looking and exploring the outfield market, but again, I
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Speaker 3: don't know that I expect anything to happen really quickly.
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Speaker 4: No, the American League is so bad that everyone's alive.
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Speaker 4: Even the Angels probably think they're alive, Ken, which is
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Speaker 4: which is crazy to me. But did you see the
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Speaker 4: game last night in Vegas? And can you explain that
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Speaker 4: this is not going to be the norm in Vegas,
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Speaker 4: especially once they go indoor and it's climate controlled and
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Speaker 4: they you adore the balls up. This was a one
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Speaker 4: offer this week, and if we see this for the
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Speaker 4: next five nights, it'll be exciting, but not going to
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Speaker 4: be an everyday occurrence in Vegas.
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Speaker 3: You said it Ajay, for all the reasons you just mentioned,
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Speaker 3: it should not be like this. It will be a
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Speaker 3: climate controlled environment. I don't expect they're going to play
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Speaker 3: outdoors very often, just like the Diamondbacks in the desert
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Speaker 3: do not play outdoors very often. So that was certainly
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Speaker 3: an unusual game, to say the least. Pat Murphy, the
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Speaker 3: Brewers manager, said what that it was the weirdest game
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Speaker 3: he's ever been a part of something along those lines. So, no,
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Speaker 3: it's not going to be the norm there. The humor
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Speaker 3: door will come into play, the indoor element will come
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Speaker 3: into play. But certainly you can understand now why you
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Speaker 3: can't play outdoors in Vegas all year round, at least
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Speaker 3: at the major league level. They do it at Triple A,
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Speaker 3: and you see games like Last Nights.
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Speaker 5: Have you ever seen the movie Dumb and Dumber Ken
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Speaker 5: where he says there's one in a million chants yes, okay,
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Speaker 5: is there a one in a million or a better
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Speaker 5: chance that Byron Buxton gets moved Because there are some
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Speaker 5: teams that of his bat were added to that lineup,
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Speaker 5: it'll be a massive hall for the Twins and a
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Speaker 5: massive hall for a playoff team. Is this possible that
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Speaker 5: he waives just no trade.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe it's one in a million against good
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Speaker 3: And he has been pretty outspoken in the past about
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Speaker 3: wanting to remain with the Twins, and I would expect
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Speaker 3: that is still his stance. Like Trout, he wants to
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Speaker 3: be where he is, So okay, that's where you start
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Speaker 3: with this. But will that position change if, for instance,
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Speaker 3: the Twins say, you know what, we're going to keep
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Speaker 3: trying to build and try to do some things to
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Speaker 3: get younger, and we're trading Joe Ryan, and we're trading
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Speaker 3: any other piece that is kind of near expiration as
17:24
Speaker 3: far as the contracts are concerned, and Byron, this is
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Speaker 3: the team you're going to have in front of you. Now,
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Speaker 3: that might change his perspective a little bit. And I
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Speaker 3: don't have his contract in front of me. I don't
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Speaker 3: know how much remains. He's a bit of a gamble
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Speaker 3: to take on simply because of his health history. But yes,
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Speaker 3: he is a transformative player and one team is the Braves. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: even with Michael Harris the second in center field, and
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Speaker 3: you could put Byron Buckston in that outfield and be
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Speaker 3: pretty good. And you can name a number of other
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Speaker 3: teams as well, but it's going to take one him
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Speaker 3: giving that approval, just to go look at it from
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Speaker 5: My question to you is about what you wrote about
19:12
Speaker 5: yesterday about Alex Cora and Chad Tracy's continued relationship even
19:18
Speaker 5: after Core has been fired. Can you give us a
19:20
Speaker 5: little insight into your article that how that relationship is
19:23
Speaker 5: still continued or stayed kindled.
19:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked about it yesterday on Fair Territory too,
19:31
Speaker 3: and it's really interesting how this came about. I was
19:34
Speaker 3: speaking with Jim Tracy, the former Major League manager Dodgers,
19:38
Speaker 3: Rockies Pirates, and I called him because of course he
19:42
Speaker 3: is the father of Chad Tracy, the interim manager of
19:44
Speaker 3: the Boston Red Sox, and we talked about how often
19:48
Speaker 3: they've been speaking that kind of thing, how he thinks
19:50
Speaker 3: Chad is doing, and then at the end of the
19:52
Speaker 3: conversation he said, Hey, one more thing, and he said,
19:57
Speaker 3: I want to mention that Alex Cora has been a
19:59
Speaker 3: huge person to our family. He of course played for
20:02
Speaker 3: Jim Tracy in Los Angeles, and he has treated my
20:06
Speaker 3: son like royalty from the beginning. And if Chad Tracy,
20:11
Speaker 3: my son ever needed anything, I'm sure he could call
20:13
Speaker 3: Cora and it would be cool. So then I went
20:15
Speaker 3: to Chad Tracy and said, well, this is what your
20:18
Speaker 3: dad said, and Chad Tracy said yes, in fact, we've
20:20
Speaker 3: already spoken since the firing a handful of times, and
20:24
Speaker 3: he's been very supportive. Cora has and he considers him
20:28
Speaker 3: to be an amazing human being. So to me, what
20:32
Speaker 3: was interesting here For all the Red Sox nonsense this year, Cora,
20:36
Speaker 3: despite getting fired in a shocking fashion, has felt the
20:41
Speaker 3: need to give Tracy his support. And he told me,
20:45
Speaker 3: Cora did it just kind of what you do in baseball,
20:48
Speaker 3: You pay it forward. It's the fraternity of managers. It's
20:51
Speaker 3: not a very large group of people, and you try
20:53
Speaker 3: to help when you can. So I thought that was cool,
20:57
Speaker 3: and I thought it spoke well of everyone involved. So
21:00
Speaker 3: I was happy that Jim Cracy, sorry, Jim Tracy said
21:03
Speaker 3: to me, Hey, one more thing. I'm not done yet.
21:08
Speaker 1: I like that and a great story to read right
21:10
Speaker 1: now in the athletic put out by Ken uh Aj,
21:15
Speaker 1: did you have any final thoughts for Ken?
21:17
Speaker 4: Before we say and that was your game on Saturday?
21:22
Speaker 3: Well, we didn't have a game, Aj, Why not Ken?
21:26
Speaker 3: Because it rained aj oh red Sox Yankees in New York.
21:31
Speaker 3: The booth was going to be Kevin Burkhard, David Ortiz,
21:34
Speaker 3: Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and it got rained out. And
21:37
Speaker 3: it seems to me, Aj, you're taking pleasure in this
21:39
Speaker 3: as a Fox employee, and I find that all the lot.
21:41
Speaker 4: No I only take I know I was actually intrigued
21:44
Speaker 4: to watch this game, but I just I just take
21:47
Speaker 4: pleasure in the fact you flew across the country and
21:49
Speaker 4: got rained down and then had to fly back home.
21:51
Speaker 4: So what I want to know is what did you
21:53
Speaker 4: charge on the Fox credit card? Did you charge a
21:55
Speaker 4: Broadway show Saturday night? Did you charge a nice dinner?
21:59
Speaker 4: Did you take your family out and say you were
22:01
Speaker 4: doing research Ken?
22:02
Speaker 3: That's what I want to know, all of the above
22:05
Speaker 3: and more a party, That's what I wait A J.
22:09
Speaker 1: I forgot you weren't at Ken's party. Ken ended up
22:12
Speaker 1: having a party on Saturday night in New York City.
22:14
Speaker 1: It was no and I'm close.
22:15
Speaker 4: I'm in the Northeast. All I had to do is
22:16
Speaker 4: jump on about six ferries, take twelve cars and that
22:19
Speaker 4: would have been there.
22:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was doing a private jets. Yeah.
22:22
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. AJ knows full well that I don't
22:25
Speaker 3: do anything.
22:26
Speaker 4: So yeah, but it's New York. Ken, You're big there.
22:29
Speaker 3: You're big for New York, big everywhere, Ajo, Ken.
22:37
Speaker 4: There's a couple of places I don't know.
22:40
Speaker 6: Well, you know it this way.
22:43
Speaker 1: When we can get yep, exactly, when we can get
22:46
Speaker 1: Ken to go to a dinner, it's definitely a win
22:48
Speaker 1: and it is a it's a treat.
22:50
Speaker 6: But yes, yeah, Ken is not out.
22:52
Speaker 4: On the orders off the kids meal too.
22:57
Speaker 6: And that's our que Ken.
22:59
Speaker 1: Thank you sorry teeing you up for that little finisher,
23:02
Speaker 1: but felt.
23:03
Speaker 3: Its Scott always.
23:05
Speaker 6: Thank you.
23:05
Speaker 1: You're the best. Ken Rosenthal with us FT senior insider.
23:08
Speaker 1: And then I think fair territory is great. But also
23:12
Speaker 1: you know, a necessary Ken on his own situation to
23:17
Speaker 1: not hear it from US Peanut Gallery folks. Elana on
23:21
Speaker 1: there with him of course on Thursdays, so we got
23:24
Speaker 1: some of your questions in there.
23:25
Speaker 6: I saw them. I handed them off to AJ and
23:27
Speaker 6: Eric if you have more. Thursday's the spot.
23:36
Speaker 1: Some MLB organizations are more injury prone than others. Is
23:40
Speaker 1: that bad luck or a system issue? The Athletics, you know?
23:44
Speaker 1: Sorrus and Brittany Gieroli put this one together. The three
23:48
Speaker 1: most injury prone organization since twenty twenty four, going back
23:52
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty two, going back to twenty twelve, The Orioles,
23:56
Speaker 1: the Yankees, the Mets. There's a lot of good research
24:00
Speaker 1: in this article about age differential and teams that are
24:04
Speaker 1: valuing swing speed and exit velocity and velocity from pitchers
24:09
Speaker 1: stuff from pitchers. Of course they all value that to
24:12
Speaker 1: an extent, But how they're getting there versus weighing keeping
24:15
Speaker 1: guys on the field I thought was very interesting. So
24:19
Speaker 1: for example, also those three organizations I'm talking about have
24:22
Speaker 1: the most injured pitchers in the minor leagues.
24:24
Speaker 6: That specifically the spot that stands out.
24:26
Speaker 1: The Yankees are just way past everyone in minor league
24:29
Speaker 1: games lost due to il during that time period.
24:34
Speaker 6: That seems to be their thing here.
24:36
Speaker 1: They also tried to separate this by players twenty six
24:39
Speaker 1: years old and under since twenty twenty four in the
24:42
Speaker 1: minor league, so that they weren't including some of the
24:45
Speaker 1: veteran guys that were in there, and they could look
24:47
Speaker 1: more at the development side and some of the prospects.
24:50
Speaker 1: And the Dodgers ranked among the ten healthiest teams in
24:54
Speaker 1: that category, so it was dispelling some of the Oh,
24:57
Speaker 1: only the big market teams have these kind of injuries
24:59
Speaker 1: because they can have to keep the players down there
25:02
Speaker 1: or even take shots on more injury prone guys from
25:05
Speaker 1: their high school days.
25:06
Speaker 6: So here's here's the overall list.
25:08
Speaker 1: First of all, since twenty twenty four, twenty four to
25:10
Speaker 1: twenty six Yankees are on this list as twenty one
25:13
Speaker 1: thousand and five to eighty one organizational days lost Mets
25:17
Speaker 1: at twenty a little over twenty thousand or twenty and
25:19
Speaker 1: a half thousand, I should say, Orioles in the nineteens,
25:22
Speaker 1: and then there's a pretty big drop off to the
25:24
Speaker 1: Astros in the sixteens along with the Tigers. Thoughts here
25:30
Speaker 1: AJ before we begin, Oh, I see what they're saying
25:33
Speaker 1: on the.
25:33
Speaker 4: Math doesn't math? First of all, trying to figure out
25:35
Speaker 4: the math here and it doesn't math, So I don't.
25:38
Speaker 6: Know it does math on most of them. You're the
25:40
Speaker 6: Yankees one.
25:41
Speaker 4: Chat Yankees one is the one that I'm like, wait
25:43
Speaker 4: a second, that doesn't math. So I mean I only
25:45
Speaker 4: went to high school. I didn't go to that high
25:47
Speaker 4: institution left South Carolina, like wit, did you know where
25:49
Speaker 4: they teach two plus two equals five? But the math
25:53
Speaker 4: doesn't math on that. So listen the Yankees. They have
25:58
Speaker 4: they you know what, the one thing the Yankees probably
26:00
Speaker 4: do and I don't know this, but they probably signed
26:02
Speaker 4: the six year free agents that go to Triple A
26:05
Speaker 4: and they're a little bit older. Maybe they do get hurt.
26:07
Speaker 4: They also take a little more chances with guys, I
26:09
Speaker 4: think sometimes because they have a little more money and
26:11
Speaker 4: they can draft different people and sign different people to
26:14
Speaker 4: try to do things with them. And that's the same
26:17
Speaker 4: way the Orioles. The Orioles to me, have always been
26:19
Speaker 4: an interesting team because they always say, oh, we don't
26:21
Speaker 4: spend the money on international players and this and that,
26:24
Speaker 4: and we do things different in the draft and we
26:26
Speaker 4: try to do this. But for them to have this
26:28
Speaker 4: many injuries, I mean, that's just an organizational thing.
26:30
Speaker 2: To me.
26:31
Speaker 4: There's no other way to put it other than this
26:33
Speaker 4: is an organizational philosophy. Whether it's like Jim Dukett just said,
26:36
Speaker 4: soft tissue stuff or the way they handle things or
26:38
Speaker 4: the way they do rehab, it's just an organizational policy
26:42
Speaker 4: that hasn't worked. I know when I played for the
26:43
Speaker 4: White Sox, you didn't go on the deal at the
26:46
Speaker 4: time because Hermschneider, our trainer, made you feel like absolute crap.
26:50
Speaker 4: If you went on the deal, you had to be
26:52
Speaker 4: literally have a body part almost amputated for you to
26:55
Speaker 4: go on the deal.
26:58
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not like that anymore. Aja, It's it's a different,
27:01
Speaker 7: different time. It's it's it stinks because I mean, there's
27:04
Speaker 7: there's a bunch of there's a couple of reasons why
27:07
Speaker 7: these numbers are high. First off, being a lot of
27:11
Speaker 7: teams and frankly, a lot of players don't feel like
27:14
Speaker 7: they can they're not they don't want to play if
27:16
Speaker 7: they're not one hundred percent, They don't feel like they
27:18
Speaker 7: can put their best product on the field. And it's
27:21
Speaker 7: going to hurt themselves if they're not out there playing
27:23
Speaker 7: at one hundred percent. So if especially if they're struggling,
27:26
Speaker 7: if their hamstrings little sore, it's now a grade one
27:30
Speaker 7: hamstring strain that they need two weeks to fix their
27:34
Speaker 7: swing while their hamstring heels and then they then they
27:37
Speaker 7: come back.
27:38
Speaker 3: Uh.
27:38
Speaker 4: The other is.
27:41
Speaker 7: I started to see it a little bit towards the end,
27:44
Speaker 7: especially in the minor leagues. These minor league numbers being
27:46
Speaker 7: high is interesting because you see a lot of load
27:49
Speaker 7: management happening now with with especially some of these high
27:52
Speaker 7: level prospects where they only play for four days, four
27:56
Speaker 7: or five games a week. Uh, you got to have
27:58
Speaker 7: two days off. You know, they're gonna take their two
28:02
Speaker 7: weeks off in the middle of the seat, especially starting pitcher.
28:05
Speaker 7: You know, the starting pitcher will pitch and then he'll
28:08
Speaker 7: get like just past the All Star break, and then
28:09
Speaker 7: he'll take his three weeks off to make sure his
28:11
Speaker 7: pitch count stays down and that instead of you know,
28:15
Speaker 7: what do you do with him? You put him on
28:16
Speaker 7: the on the I L. So that way, the phanom
28:19
Speaker 7: I L is what they call it. So that way
28:21
Speaker 7: you don't have to take up a roster spot and
28:22
Speaker 7: the guy can rest. So there's a lot of different
28:25
Speaker 7: reasons for it. The main thing is a little bit
28:28
Speaker 7: like what you just said, AJ, but it's guys are
28:31
Speaker 7: okay being on the the I l now where it
28:35
Speaker 7: used to be the case where you did not want
28:36
Speaker 7: to go on the IL, especially like myself when I
28:41
Speaker 7: first got up, I didn't want to go on the
28:42
Speaker 7: IL because it took me a long time to get
28:44
Speaker 7: to the big leagues, and I didn't want somebody else
28:45
Speaker 7: to come and try to come in and while he
28:47
Speaker 7: pit me and take my job. I wanted to be
28:50
Speaker 7: out there every day and play, so that way I
28:51
Speaker 7: knew I had a job. That I feel like that
28:54
Speaker 7: mentality is is long gone.
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30:01
Speaker 1: Phantom, I L, I mean the Mets got in trouble
30:03
Speaker 1: for it, right, Somebody like told on the Mets or
30:06
Speaker 1: something and they got in trouble.
30:07
Speaker 4: Even though many more of that was just more of
30:10
Speaker 4: a that was a personal vendetta to try to get
30:13
Speaker 4: who was the GM at the time. That was that
30:15
Speaker 4: was more of a personal for me. That was more
30:18
Speaker 4: of a personal thing than just like, oh because every team,
30:21
Speaker 4: I mean, I was on the Phano my L. I
30:22
Speaker 4: know how it goes, right, but like it's what Wit said.
30:25
Speaker 4: The biggest thing that we've said this a million times
30:28
Speaker 4: in the show. The biggest ability is availability. And then
30:31
Speaker 4: we had Tom Kelly used to always come out and
30:33
Speaker 4: say when I was with the Twins, can't make the
30:35
Speaker 4: club and the tub, which and that means that you're
30:37
Speaker 4: like nobody. You The biggest difference I see now and again,
30:41
Speaker 4: this is the way people are now. And it's not bad.
30:44
Speaker 4: It's not good or bad. It is up the way,
30:46
Speaker 4: just the way it is. Guys didn't want to go
30:48
Speaker 4: in the training room. Guys when I came up, were like,
30:51
Speaker 4: training room, No, you don't go in unless you literally
30:54
Speaker 4: are bleeding to death. You stayed out of the training room.
30:56
Speaker 4: You couldn't walk, you couldn't throw, like you had to
30:58
Speaker 4: be injured, injured to go to the training Now, like
31:02
Speaker 4: Wit said, guys going there for three massages a day
31:05
Speaker 4: and they go in there and get this and they
31:07
Speaker 4: get that, and they and we listen. Good or bad.
31:09
Speaker 4: That's the way that is now. And it's not going
31:11
Speaker 4: to change because they people think this works. But it's
31:14
Speaker 4: just a change in philosophy. And guys are okay being
31:17
Speaker 4: on the iol. That's fine. That's the way teams want
31:19
Speaker 4: to do it. Hey, more power to them. But I
31:21
Speaker 4: also agree with what what Wit said. We talked about
31:23
Speaker 4: this last week in the minor leagues, guys aren't conditioned
31:26
Speaker 4: to play every day. Their conditioned to play six game
31:28
Speaker 4: series one day off. They might play four of the six,
31:32
Speaker 4: one DH day and one off day. And you know
31:34
Speaker 4: what they can They get to the big leagues and
31:36
Speaker 4: they go, man, i gotta play twenty days in a row.
31:38
Speaker 4: I've never done this in my life. So to me,
31:40
Speaker 4: it's just a different mindset. Hey, what everything is good
31:43
Speaker 4: or bad. That's not for me to say. It was
31:44
Speaker 4: different and now it's become this and that's the way
31:47
Speaker 4: it is.
31:49
Speaker 7: I'd be curious to know, and we should have asked
31:51
Speaker 7: Jim this, but I'd be curious to know how much
31:55
Speaker 7: research teams do on players when it comes to their
32:03
Speaker 7: ability to be injured, frankly, and how much stock they
32:06
Speaker 7: put in that. I mean, because you would think that
32:08
Speaker 7: if a team is going to go sign this guy,
32:10
Speaker 7: especially for a lot of money, say he's a free agent,
32:13
Speaker 7: and you know, you got a guy who breaks his
32:17
Speaker 7: ribs getting a massage, or rolls his ankle stepping down
32:23
Speaker 7: the curb or something like that, where it's just like
32:26
Speaker 7: he always seems to get hurt. His body's just always
32:30
Speaker 7: always hurt. His tolerance for pain isn't high. I wonder,
32:34
Speaker 7: I mean, you would think that teams would try to
32:36
Speaker 7: put some stock into that, because truly, I don't think
32:39
Speaker 7: it's valued high enough. If you're not on the field
32:42
Speaker 7: playing and you don't know how to play with some
32:45
Speaker 7: stuff going on, and you can, you don't know how
32:47
Speaker 7: to be a good player at eighty percent health, then
32:50
Speaker 7: I feel like your value a team shouldn't value as
32:53
Speaker 7: high when when that's going on. So I'd have been
32:55
Speaker 7: curious to hear from Jim. We'll have to ask him
32:58
Speaker 7: next time he's on this topic. Comes back up that
33:02
Speaker 7: how much teams really do put value in that.
33:06
Speaker 1: We're shown right now most MLB days lost to the
33:09
Speaker 1: injured list from twenty four through twenty six, Dodgers leading
33:11
Speaker 1: the charge, AJ's White Sox in the two spot, the
33:14
Speaker 1: Red Sox three mets for Marlins five for major league days,
33:20
Speaker 1: and I can think of to arm injuries.
33:23
Speaker 4: Well, Scott, I remember when I was with the White Sox. Again,
33:26
Speaker 4: this is a long time ago now, but Hermschneider are
33:27
Speaker 4: trainer there forever. One of his biggest things was he
33:31
Speaker 4: had saved It was like thousands of days on the
33:35
Speaker 4: on the il at the time less than every other team.
33:38
Speaker 4: So then they're like, well, look how much more money
33:41
Speaker 4: he saves the team by having Hermschneider employed as the
33:44
Speaker 4: head trainer, because the guys don't get injured and guys
33:48
Speaker 4: play through stuff. Right, And now if you look at that,
33:51
Speaker 4: Herm's obviously not there anymore. He's been retired for a while.
33:54
Speaker 4: But the numbers have changed, right again. Herm used to
33:57
Speaker 4: kill us in the training room. He kills those guys.
34:00
Speaker 4: Would go in there and be like, oh man, I
34:01
Speaker 4: got hit on the elbow. It's gonna hurt. The rehab
34:04
Speaker 4: is gonna hurt so much more than me going just
34:07
Speaker 4: going to play. But that was again, that was the
34:09
Speaker 4: way it was. But that was one of Herm's biggest things. Jerry.
34:12
Speaker 4: You'd always tell Jerry, look at the numbers, Jerry, how
34:14
Speaker 4: many days on the IL I saved you.
34:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a big difference, it does. But yeah,
34:23
Speaker 1: you have to be much more careful than your wording.
34:25
Speaker 1: That goes for almost everything these days. But that's the thing, right,
34:28
Speaker 1: if a player hops in there and you've got Herm
34:30
Speaker 1: saying like.
34:31
Speaker 6: Hey, just toughing up, get back out there. You don't
34:34
Speaker 6: want to deal with this. I mean tames Hern called
34:37
Speaker 6: me a name.
34:38
Speaker 4: Literally, I never forget. I got hit all the time, obviously,
34:42
Speaker 4: And I never went in the training roo must I
34:43
Speaker 4: absolutely have to. And I went in there one day
34:45
Speaker 4: in spring training. I'm like, I caught like a ball
34:47
Speaker 4: weird and it like kind of just kind of you know,
34:50
Speaker 4: sometimes you catch a ball like this up here where
34:52
Speaker 4: you reach up for it and it kind of clips
34:53
Speaker 4: your shoulder a little bit and you're like, oh man.
34:56
Speaker 4: And again I never went in the training room. And
34:58
Speaker 4: I went in there one day. I said, Hermi, Man,
35:01
Speaker 4: my left shoulder hurts. I caught this pitch. I can
35:03
Speaker 4: tell you the exact pitch I did it. And he's like,
35:05
Speaker 4: stop being a Wools. Just go out there and you know,
35:07
Speaker 4: and then he then he rubbed hot stuff all over
35:09
Speaker 4: it and he made sure that it was like burning me.
35:12
Speaker 4: And I went into herm. I'm like, her Man, can
35:14
Speaker 4: I get this stuff off? How do I make it?
35:15
Speaker 4: Because I'm like just killing me? And he's like, I
35:18
Speaker 4: can't quit being a Wools. And I'm like, okay, I'm
35:19
Speaker 4: not going back in there again. And I love to death, right,
35:22
Speaker 4: But that's just the way it was. It wasn't like,
35:25
Speaker 4: it wasn't personal. It was just one of those things
35:27
Speaker 4: where hey, get out there and figure out a way
35:29
Speaker 4: to play. It was tough love and I listen, I played,
35:32
Speaker 4: I loved it. I played that way. But again, it's
35:34
Speaker 4: just different now, and that's fine. I love you Herm.
35:36
Speaker 4: I love you to death.
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Speaker 7: Bell sounds like your boy, Luis Robert just from Herm
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Speaker 7: in his life.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he also has too many fans in New York,
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Speaker 4: so we can't play. Oh wait, he didn't play in
35:46
Speaker 4: front of Chicago's fans either.
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Speaker 6: Sorry.
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Speaker 1: This is part of the change, though, is the organization
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Speaker 1: the White tax I know, you know, obviously some of
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Speaker 1: those injuries and being on that list for the last
35:56
Speaker 1: few years has to do with lloj Jmenez, Luis Robert
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Speaker 1: Yon Mancotta.
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Speaker 6: Those guys are gone.
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Speaker 1: Things have changed, sam Ontanachi, you know, some of the
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Speaker 1: other new guys right on this White Sox team. Not
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Speaker 1: that they're not going to get hurt, but I mean
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Speaker 1: Chris Getz spoke about it the other day that like
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Speaker 1: they want to be on the field. I think that
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Speaker 1: was a direct shot at some prior players that were
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Speaker 1: part of the roster. He brought up like three or
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Speaker 1: four guys newer to the party there saying like these
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Speaker 1: guys like will die to play on the field, and
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Speaker 1: that part's obvious. He said it without saying it. One
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Speaker 1: other note too, and then we'll show another board Aaron Judge.
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Speaker 1: This topic comes up at perfect timing. Judge just said
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Speaker 1: on Friday, after he had been diagnosed that he's going
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Speaker 1: to get checked in another four to six weeks with
36:38
Speaker 1: a pretty serious injury.
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Speaker 6: It appears that he'd.
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Speaker 1: Been playing through it since late April, and his reasoning
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Speaker 1: was that he had seen other guys on the team
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Speaker 1: go down and felt like he needed to keep playing.
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Speaker 6: You don't get that very often, you don't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you guys are obviously good examples
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Speaker 1: of not you know, playing herd and not spending time
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Speaker 1: off the field. But Aaron Judge, which is the best
37:00
Speaker 1: hitter of our generation with and I mean, he wasn't
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Speaker 1: himself the last six weeks, and that was still good
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Speaker 1: enough to be a star, but he admitted he was hurt,
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Speaker 1: he was down, and he just didn't want to get
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Speaker 1: off the field until they essentially forced him to.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then it's funny as you brought that up
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Speaker 7: because I was gonna mention that about it comes down
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Speaker 7: to having the right kind of veterans in your clubhouse, too,
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Speaker 7: especially when it comes to something like this is having
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Speaker 7: a guy, an older guy that your superstar, whoever it
37:29
Speaker 7: may be, that you have a young kid that's like, ah,
37:32
Speaker 7: you know, my hamstring's a little tight, I don't know
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Speaker 7: if I can go today, And having that veteran, you know,
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Speaker 7: pull them aside and be like, listen, man, this isn't
37:40
Speaker 7: this isn't about you. This is about the team. This
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Speaker 7: is about us putting our best team on the field.
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Speaker 7: You'd have to be on the field for us to
37:46
Speaker 7: be our best. You might be a little banged up.
37:48
Speaker 7: You're never going to be one hundred percent healthy playing
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Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty two games. You got to learn
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Speaker 7: how to deal with it and do the right kind
37:54
Speaker 7: of work in the weight room and the training room
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Speaker 7: and your prehab to help better yourself and put your
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Speaker 7: body in a good position to go out there and
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Speaker 7: play every single day. And just I don't know, you
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Speaker 7: just don't see it as much anymore, and it's a shame.
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Speaker 1: Can we show the board of the fewest days lost
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Speaker 1: to the il, So you've got the Cardinals on there
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Speaker 1: and then so they've got about eight thousand, and then
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Speaker 1: the A's Royals and Guardians along with the Braves are
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Speaker 1: in the ten thousand range for days lost to il
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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty six across the
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Speaker 1: entire organization. I mean a couple teams standing out there,
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Speaker 1: the Guardians who have been consistently good, the Braves.
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Speaker 6: So that's impressive. You know, there's some questions.
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Speaker 4: Scott on this on this board, and we would have
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Speaker 4: to help me here because I know the Cardinals they
38:43
Speaker 4: have a veteran trainer that's been around for a long time.
38:46
Speaker 4: Braves have a veteran trainer that's been around for a
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Speaker 4: long time. I'm assuming the Guardians probably have a vetter. Again,
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Speaker 4: I don't know the Royals. Maybe you can speak on
38:54
Speaker 4: this with Oakland. I'm assuming. I mean even though Oakland
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Speaker 4: is now Sacramento, which is kind of money that we
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Speaker 4: have Oakland. I love it. I think their trainer hasn't
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Speaker 4: changed for a while. So is it maybe the veteran
39:06
Speaker 4: trainers instead we get the new school younger trainers. Again,
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Speaker 4: I don't know this, but it just I just I'm
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Speaker 4: talking about the teams that I know about, like the
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Speaker 4: Braves and the Cardinals, they have veteran trainers that have
39:15
Speaker 4: been around for a while, and maybe they do with
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Speaker 4: things a little bit old schooler. That's not a word,
39:21
Speaker 4: I know, but you guys know what I'm saying. I think.
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Speaker 7: So, I mean, Ken City has Kyle Turner, who was
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Speaker 7: who wasn't hasn't been the head trainer for that long.
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Speaker 7: I think he's been there for the head trainer for
39:34
Speaker 7: just right after I left, so twenty twenty two, I think.
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Speaker 7: But he's been on staff for a long time. He's
39:39
Speaker 7: been around the game forever. And yeah, it's just having
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Speaker 7: that trainer. That guy comes in and the guy's like, listen,
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Speaker 7: yeah you're a little banged up, but you're okay, get
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Speaker 7: out there kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: One more for you to finish this Minor league position
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Speaker 1: players younger than twenty six aisle days lost, Okay, position
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Speaker 1: players two teams. Blue Jays are by far leading the
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Speaker 1: charge here and then Yankees behind them, Phillies right after that.
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Speaker 1: As someone that was recently with the Blue Jays with
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Speaker 1: and we talked a lot about how they were able
40:14
Speaker 1: to combine contact and slug but they significantly upped their
40:17
Speaker 1: average bat speed as a team. I don't think it
40:20
Speaker 1: takes a brain scientist to say that if you are
40:24
Speaker 1: enforcing swing speed training on everyone to a high degree,
40:28
Speaker 1: you are going to have injuries pop up more significantly, right, Like,
40:33
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty obvious statement, just like with
40:35
Speaker 1: velo and arms, the more the harder you throw. So
40:38
Speaker 1: what do you think about the way that that's getting implemented, right,
40:41
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they shouldn't be done, but maybe
40:43
Speaker 1: some of the teams that are most aggressive with it
40:45
Speaker 1: are going to suffer more injuries.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's that's definitely could
40:50
Speaker 7: be a key contributor. It'd be interesting interesting to see
40:54
Speaker 7: what the majority of those injuries were of those position players.
40:59
Speaker 7: How much was selftishe you? How much was hit by pitch?
41:01
Speaker 7: How much was that kind of stuff? How much was
41:07
Speaker 7: load management? Within a roundabout way, which I I do
41:11
Speaker 7: think is majority of the minor league stuff these days
41:13
Speaker 7: is load management with with players. But but yeah, that's
41:17
Speaker 7: that's interesting to hear Scott that that it's it could
41:21
Speaker 7: be a it could be a correlation for sure.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we need max out if you constantly max out.
41:28
Speaker 4: It's constantly a max effort, you're gonna get hurt more.
41:30
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's human nature. It's whatever you want,
41:33
Speaker 4: laws of physics, whatever the heck, whatever saying you want
41:37
Speaker 4: to use. If you just constantly whatever you're doing, if
41:40
Speaker 4: you're constantly maxing out, at some point, something's gonna go wrong.
41:43
Speaker 4: You can take anything you want in the world. Like
41:47
Speaker 4: if I have this table that the computer that I'm
41:49
Speaker 4: on is, and I constantly hit it as hard as
41:51
Speaker 4: I can, eventually it's gonna break. Now, if I just
41:54
Speaker 4: tap it, it's gonna break a lot, you know, a
41:56
Speaker 4: lot longer of a time. But if I'm smashing it
41:59
Speaker 4: the whole time, first of all, my hand's gonna break.
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Speaker 4: Whereas I could just tap it ever so and do
42:03
Speaker 4: that forever and it might never happen. But as soon
42:06
Speaker 4: as I start hitting it hard, either my hand or
42:08
Speaker 4: the table's gonna break quicker. It's just it's human nature.
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Speaker 4: It's whatever laws of nature, whatever that you want to
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Speaker 4: call it. It's just it's a fact.