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It’s a good thing I don’t drive a compact (S6 E15 “A Vineyard Valentine”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of things. You know, iheart's getting into all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of durs. Anyway, we are gonna break down episode fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: Season six eight, Vineyard Vallance. I have a controversial take,
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  Speaker 1: and I am joined by my controversial yet intrepid crew
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  Speaker 1: led by terror Suit Susanne French, Amy Sugarman. Welcome, ladies.
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  Speaker 1: What is your controversial take?
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  Speaker 3: Oh you want me to tell you now?
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  Speaker 1: I too well, So we have a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this. Half the episode I loved
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  Speaker 3: and half the episode I thought was stupid.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like it's fair.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the We'll get into it, but first, I
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  Speaker 3: have not gotten your tickets. I am all in live.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, it is. We are getting close to sold out.
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  Speaker 3: There are some tickets left. There's tickets for the stream.
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  Speaker 3: If you cannot be in La, obviously get your tickets
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  Speaker 3: at the stream. If you can be in LA. I
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  Speaker 3: really I'm actually excited about this. Scott's going to be there,
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  Speaker 3: We have all those amazing cast members that are going
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  Speaker 3: to be there, and it's very intimate venue, so like
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  Speaker 3: we're doing a full Q and A and you're really
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  Speaker 3: going to have the opportunity to ask all those people questions.
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  Speaker 3: But it will be snowing. We have Doci's Market, We
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  Speaker 3: have all the things, and we just added like, you know, look,
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  Speaker 3: I understand tickets are expensive, right, and I want people
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  Speaker 3: to feel like they're getting a lot of value for
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  Speaker 3: that money. We have in the back lot, so it's
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  Speaker 3: on the studio lot, like it's super cool. Where the
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  Speaker 3: theater is a Luke's Diner food truck.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was hoping that was going to come
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  Speaker 1: through a Luke's Diner food truck. And who's panning that truck?
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  Speaker 3: You will see when you're there, it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: And we have a Luke's Diner coffee cart in the venue.
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  Speaker 3: So like for people listening, like you get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of bang for your buck, right, Like, I get it,
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  Speaker 3: it's expensive, but you're getting the show, you're getting dinner,
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  Speaker 3: you're getting you know. We obviously have Dosi's Market that
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  Speaker 3: has concessions for sale, but like everybody gets, you know,
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  Speaker 3: some real cool perks with their ticket.
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  Speaker 1: A tad pricey, but there's a reason for that. We're
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  Speaker 1: not trying to gouge people's amy Amy can provide.
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  Speaker 3: We wanted to do it at this venue, right, So
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  Speaker 3: it's a very it's a very cool place to see
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  Speaker 3: a show, and it's very intimate, so we can only
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  Speaker 3: have a certain number of people in there, which obviously
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  Speaker 3: makes ticket prices higher. So we've done you know, like
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  Speaker 3: like I said, you get you know, your coffee beverages,
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  Speaker 3: you get dinner after the show from the Luke's Diner
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  Speaker 3: food truck. Like we're doing everything we can. We really
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  Speaker 3: want to make it people have an amazing experience and write,
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  Speaker 3: but a real Gilmore evening.
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  Speaker 1: We have to offset the cost of what it's costing
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  Speaker 1: us to rent the venue and hire the workers and
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. That we're Yeah, we're not as
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  Speaker 1: strike done.
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  Speaker 3: It's not we're not We're not trying to make money.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to break even here. We're not to bring
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  Speaker 1: you some great entertainment and some great guests.
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  Speaker 4: That's it's the old it's the old Jay Leno studio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, old Johnny Carson's Jay Leno. It's so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of history behind it. We're really exciting.
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  Speaker 3: What I'll say is if you can travel, it's worth it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm traveling down from San Francisco, Like it's this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be really, really cool. So Scott, you better
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  Speaker 3: be awesome too, because you've got to carry the whole show.
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  Speaker 1: So I know that's very hard for me, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: practicing a great deal. I'm doing my Walter Cronkite imitations.
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  Speaker 1: I'm brushing up on those.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, no, but it is very intimate,
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  Speaker 3: so I do want people to know, like it's it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna be up close and personal with these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're just
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  Speaker 1: gonna just rip the roof off.
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  Speaker 3: That snow is expensive.
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  Speaker 1: Is expensive little pieces of paper, right.
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  Speaker 4: The most expensive part.
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  Speaker 3: It's sort of true.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of well, look, we're gonna bring you a
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  Speaker 1: great show, great guests. We're gonna have a blast, and
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet everybody in the meet and
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  Speaker 1: greets and that it's just gonna be We're real. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's really really pumped for this, So it's it's we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna We're going to give you one hundred and ten percent.
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  Speaker 4: So the easiest way to get tickets to the in
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  Speaker 4: person event is if you can go to our Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: On our page, there's a little link. It'll take you
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  Speaker 4: to a link tree and you can click in person
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  Speaker 4: tickets and that'll take you to the exact link. And
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  Speaker 4: that's the best way you can buy tickets.
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  Speaker 1: All right, good deal, good? I love it.
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  Speaker 3: So, okay, guys, maybe we should synopsize first.
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to synopsize.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 5: This is season six, episode fifteen, a Vineyard Valentine, and
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  Speaker 5: it aired appropriately enough on February fourteenth, two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 5: It's a couple's weekend with Luke and Lorelei Logan in
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  Speaker 5: Martha's vineyard, but Luke doesn't seem too keen on hanging
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  Speaker 5: out with Logan. The weekend is then ruined when Mitcham
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  Speaker 5: shows up demanding Logan to leave right away and tells
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  Speaker 5: him he is moving to London right after graduation.
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  Speaker 3: Was I the only one that thought half the episode
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  Speaker 3: was awesome and half was really not great?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's all this. The first half was all this
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  Speaker 1: setup and getting there, and we're getting out of Star's
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  Speaker 1: Hollow and getting out of our comfort zone and going
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  Speaker 1: to the vineyard. I was looking forward to it. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Yay, let's go on a trip. But right
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  Speaker 1: off the bat, Luke just seemed a little that's like,
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  Speaker 1: can you It's like the impression that I got from both, well,
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  Speaker 1: especially from Luke, is that he was just It's like, dude, really, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you're a grown man. Chill stop with the covetching about everything.
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  Speaker 1: And she slams him in the bedroom about it. He
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  Speaker 1: deserved that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like a different character.
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  Speaker 1: It was. He was like this very cagey, strange guy
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  Speaker 1: who didn't want to mix with anybody or do anything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell would want to marry that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Right, I think that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what was bothering me. He was so
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  Speaker 3: likely who is that guy?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Once Logan gave him the gift, it all switched. But
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: I just have never seen Luke so weak, drawn, so
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  Speaker 1: weak as a chara annoying and annoying and really weakened
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  Speaker 1: in front of Logan when Logan figured out his gift
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  Speaker 1: problem and Luke said, well, I mean, he just seems
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  Speaker 1: so and he just forgot here's a word I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to use, is impotent. He just seemed impotent as a man.
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  Speaker 3: He just wouldn't have forgotten the gift. Like nor he
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have He would never not have the gift.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I get that it wasn't exactly Valentine's Day yet, and
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  Speaker 3: so I sort of was giving him a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of a pass for that, but like he also would
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  Speaker 3: never be such a rude guest.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Also, going back to the gift, Laurel I's reaction
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  Speaker 4: made it seem like she's never received a Valentine's Day gift.
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  Speaker 4: That's how I sick it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's so weird. He gives her gifts all the time.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I just thought it was odd. It's funny, Amy,
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say the weird part, or
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  Speaker 4: the part that you felt was off, was that they
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  Speaker 4: were not on their sets.
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  Speaker 3: Like clearly this was a I mean that they were
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  Speaker 3: in Malibu.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, bother but weirdly enough, like for some reason, whenever
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  Speaker 4: shows do that and they go like on location or
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  Speaker 4: you know, like down the street, it bothers me. Weird
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  Speaker 4: this one didn't bother me for some reason. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's because we always hear that, like the Gilmore's go
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  Speaker 4: to Martha's vineyard, and like he kind of created this
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  Speaker 4: like I don't know, I something in my head that
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  Speaker 4: like this is where they always go. So for me,
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  Speaker 4: it just felt like normal. But I made this place
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  Speaker 4: up in my head.
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  Speaker 3: And part of the house tracked for me where I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: that's what the house would be like. The house was
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  Speaker 3: not nearly fancy enough though.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know that was I believe that was
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  Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John's house.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you know what. That's sort of ringing
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  Speaker 3: a bell for me.
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  Speaker 5: It was Malibu, Like, it definitely was Mayeah.
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  Speaker 3: First of all. The one thing I don't like about
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  Speaker 3: Gilmour girls, and I don't know if it's a money thing,
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  Speaker 3: when they do those sort of establishing shots that are
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  Speaker 3: like we got these from by establishing shots dot com
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  Speaker 3: that weird seagull and it was so like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: and it just felt like Malibu. I was like we
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know, maybe it's because we're all from LA,
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  Speaker 3: like we all live in La. It was so Malibui, like.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't think it fooled anybody because there's
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  Speaker 5: leaves on the trees, Like there was nothing about it
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  Speaker 5: that looked like New England.
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  Speaker 3: And isn't Martha's vineyard. You're like sea level, there's not
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  Speaker 3: like tall tall.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yes, yeah, there's no mountain behind you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, happening. And then at the beginning, the house just
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  Speaker 3: seemed like is this like an airban be fairly cheap
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  Speaker 3: house in Malibu, Like it wasn't mansionny, It wasn't what
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  Speaker 3: the Huntsburgers would have like. It was so like the
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  Speaker 3: decor was okay, but again it was not up to
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  Speaker 3: the level. And so I just was like, what's happened? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and Luke was acting like a fool.
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  Speaker 5: It was like a whole alternate universe Gilmore Girls, Like
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  Speaker 5: it just was really like Luke was weird. Rory was
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  Speaker 5: really weird. I don't know what her deal was. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. I didn't understand the whole thing with Luke
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  Speaker 5: not having the right clothes.
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  Speaker 3: Like is the weather.
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  Speaker 5: Than the weather in Connecticut, Like he just would have
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  Speaker 5: to bring what.
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  Speaker 3: He would wear at home? Why should come on?
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  Speaker 4: It's like he came from Malibu to like the East
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  Speaker 4: coast right, like he.
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  Speaker 1: Would just wear he would have been wearing.
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  Speaker 3: Like the good laugh for me was the Martha's Vineyard sweats.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, at least that made me chuckle because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: exactly what.
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  Speaker 5: But he like he brings a camp stove, but he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't bring a jacket like that.
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  Speaker 3: It was so first of all, right, why would he
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  Speaker 3: bring any of that nonsense? It was so insane. He
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  Speaker 3: was acting cuckoo.
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  Speaker 6: Who.
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  Speaker 3: I also don't.
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  Speaker 5: Believe that Luke never had lobster before.
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  Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that. It's hard to that's that's
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  Speaker 1: hard to swallow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And also I'm sorry, but Rory went from being
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  Speaker 3: Rory to Rachel Ray in like five seconds flat.
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  Speaker 4: That girl has never cut anything, Like she use a
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  Speaker 4: microwave and throws like pizza in the oven like that's it.
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  Speaker 5: And when she was doing the tour, she was like
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  Speaker 5: a little girl playing house. She's like, don't use you
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  Speaker 5: know only one person can use the shower and also
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  Speaker 5: open the window like she just was like marrying the house,
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  Speaker 5: which flat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We have done enough of our research to
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  Speaker 3: know that the Huntsburgers are almost billionaires, right right, They
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  Speaker 3: definitely do not have a house in Martha's Vineyard where
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  Speaker 3: only one person can shower at a time. Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, no way, okay, so fix them like the
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  Speaker 5: a even like just let stuff like that go exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That's why it was so like, this does not track.
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  Speaker 3: This is like, like I said, it, fine, then make
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  Speaker 3: it an airbnb.
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  Speaker 4: That or say they just bought it and they're flipping
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  Speaker 4: it like something like but you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: That's not gonna work because we know this is like
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  Speaker 3: this is their like halatial Martha's Vineyard estate and I
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  Speaker 3: have never been to Martha's Vineyard, but I have enough
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  Speaker 3: knowledge in the Worldwide Web to know that's not what
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  Speaker 3: the Huntsburgers would have.
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  Speaker 1: Like where's like what I think that house fit into
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  Speaker 1: the budget? The episode budget? Quite yes.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I mean it's pretty cool that
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  Speaker 3: it was a living in John's house, but like I.
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  Speaker 1: Said, it was either her house or her house was
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  Speaker 1: next door or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: It was just so Malibu that's pretty budget. Went like literally,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, can we just go to Howdies and
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  Speaker 3: get a burrito? Because literally we're in Malibu? Like it
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  Speaker 3: was just so why didn't they just make it Malibu.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anyway. That really took me out. And
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  Speaker 3: also like everybody, you're right, Suzanne was just weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Logan was consistent. His character always seems
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  Speaker 1: to be very consistent. Now he he he was. He
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  Speaker 1: was the entertainment part for me.
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  Speaker 3: Zere was probably like why is everybody acting crazy? He's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be me what.
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed him. He was his charming self, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Even at the basketball he was normal. And Lucas I
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  Speaker 3: think so weird and who suddenly snap snaps for a
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  Speaker 3: gym person to give them a massage?
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  Speaker 1: Like I was just like so weird. It was so strange.
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  Speaker 4: Also, like Laura, I will say I did laugh at
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  Speaker 4: Laura I and Rory going to the gym, but like
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  Speaker 4: literally just like not knowing what to do it. That
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  Speaker 4: was a little like on point with the two of them.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, the one thing I will say, and I
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  Speaker 3: know we're going out of order, but like this episode
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  Speaker 3: was so weird, we just have to you know, when
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  Speaker 3: the gym guy's like can I work in? I I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't have known what that meant either, except I just
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  Speaker 3: listened to Arnold Schwarzenegger on SmartLess and totally learned because
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  Speaker 3: Arnold will say like, can I work in? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, Okay, now I know what that means.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Arnold totally explained it. Scott Nos, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: Nos, Yeah, I tried to work in yesterday. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: let him, just gave him a luck get out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So let's let's go back. So we started the episode,
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  Speaker 3: and it was weird from the start. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: in this we must have had a hiatus, right, because
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  Speaker 3: the recap was extraordinarily long, which I get if I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't watching how we're watching every week, right, But it
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  Speaker 3: must have been. When did this air February fourteenth? Maybe
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  Speaker 3: they didn't have a lot of episodes in January, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, But the recap was just so.
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  Speaker 4: It also went back a little bit, like really back
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  Speaker 4: towards older episodes in the season, like it was at
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  Speaker 4: last week's episode.
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  Speaker 3: Suki made me laugh and she said, Zuki, you mean sucky,
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  Speaker 3: But I just don't think she's going to be like
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  Speaker 3: struggling that hard over the Valentine's menus. I liked louralized
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  Speaker 3: curls in the rap dress right out the gate. But like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know, what do you guys think of just
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: sort of the inn and then the Zydago mess and
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was there were just you know, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: your obviously your traditional Gilmore Girls episode where we're in
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  Speaker 1: stars Hollow and we get to see everybody in town.
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  Speaker 1: We saw Luke, Laureli, Rory and Logan and that's pretty
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  Speaker 1: much it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, except for the very beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Mitcham came in and then we get a little suki
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning and there's some zydeco stuff, which was like, huh.
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  Speaker 1: I think that just shows how off this episode was.
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  Speaker 1: Was the it was so incongruous with the and it
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  Speaker 1: was maybe a funny bit, yeah, but we didn't get
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  Speaker 1: to see anybody else in this episode, and it's like.
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  Speaker 3: It could have been good four.
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  Speaker 1: Characters carrying the whole show. Yeah, And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we pulled it.
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  Speaker 3: Off because you weren't yourselves.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that bit with the band actually
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  Speaker 4: could have worked in a different episode. Like I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of funny. I just feel like it
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  Speaker 4: it had nothing to do with this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, other than I guess she's you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: heartfelt when she sort of is realizing, like June third
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  Speaker 3: is not happening, right, So that was sort of okay.
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  Speaker 3: You know, look I giggled when she said led Zep
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  Speaker 3: again because I was like, I love those yacht rocky
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: you know, cover bands, Super Diamond, all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, go for led Zep again.
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  Speaker 3: But otherwise it was sort of just like what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: A yeah, A little U just joined it at a
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  Speaker 1: character uh out of its elements in Martha's vineyard, which
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  Speaker 1: was not depicted well right, and just like it was
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  Speaker 1: a very strained Even having said all that, I was
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  Speaker 1: still entertained because we have Logan to keep us afloat.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Well, and it got good in the second half, So okay,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: we'll get We'll get to that. So then we get
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the setup right, So we're in the uh, we're in
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the apartment and in Logan's apartment. Now the bed felt
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: like it was in the living room for me, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: maybe it's just a very large bedroom. Did anybody else.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I was a little thrown off by the bed being
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: with the couch, and I was like, am I.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't quite get it. Either it feels like
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: it's just one giant open room. Maybe it's a loft,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, maybe anyway, you know, and look,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Logan's gonna be up at eleven.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: But that was still sort of funny. The whole world's up,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: YadA YadA.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I thought it was really cute when he said bring
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: your mother and the guy. Now he would have known
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: his name, but otherwise it was cute.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: It was nice of him to think of them.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, that was all cute. What was Ducididies again?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: A Greek philosopher.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So then we sort of have a brief visit
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to the paper and she's like pretty much got her
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: leave together at the paper, right like, feeling like that's
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: going well. And then we sort of tea up, like, no,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: take the weekend off, it's been We.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: See her interpersonal skills with her staff. Yes, that she's
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a good leader and that she listens and she cares
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: about people.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Empowers them and the whole thing right like that was
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: all good. My next takeaway was just I am a
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: fan of low Rise jeans. I love the.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: Low Rise Jens and this Loralai really wears low Rise jeans,
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: so that really stood out from and then so Rory
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: calls and, you know, kind of says to Lurlai, come,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: this was Logan's idea, and let's do it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it just took too long to get there,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Like we should have just like going to the beach
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: how or Martha's vineyar should have been like the sub
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: should have been one scene, Like that's the same point.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I think that's what it is. It was just two.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: I think it was like, let's see one, two, three,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: it's like four scenes before we even got to Martha's vineyard.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I want to talk about it, Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you want to talking about it. We have that moment
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: that I thought was important where she says it's the
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: last nail in the June third coffin. So I was like, oh, okay,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: all right, But but Luke and Laureley seemed to be
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: getting along great, Like yeah, you know, he was sort
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: of a curmudgeon about it, but otherwise, like they seem
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to be getting along. I'm taking the truck.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of those things when you tell
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: someone like for her, it's she told people a date,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: especially her mom, and that date sticks with people because now,
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: like if it doesn't happen. I think it's more of
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: she's okay with Luke and she's okay with the situation.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I think she's worried about what other people think now,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: because like remember when Suki was like what did you do?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Why is it not happening? And then like it wasn't me,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: it was because of April. So I think it's more
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: of how people. She's worried about how people think about
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: her more than shitting married.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: The one that suggested moving the wedding.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but not because she wanted to though, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: She thought it was the right thing to do, but still.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he didn't disagree. He agreed with her to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: move it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: So few questions for Scott. Did you feel that the
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: luggage had stuff in it? Or were you just caring
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: very lightweight to so I'm glad.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up. I thought I was
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: selling it very well. Luggage I accently do up until
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the point. There was an accident when I I put
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the big bag down before loading it into the truck
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: at Lorelei's house and it it almost toppled over and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it looked very light, So I thought, oh, that's.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: You nailed it on the stairs and going out of
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the house, I really thought, oh wow, those are some
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: heavy suitcases. And then all of a sudden, I was
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: like like an envelope. My next two questions.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Gravity was my enemy in that scene.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: The next question for Scott, are there not seat belts
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: in that truck?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Die? I believe there are.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Properly okay lap belts. I did not see a restraint.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I don't I actually don't recall lap belts. I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it was just such a vined truck. It didn't have anything.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: So sketchy driving to Martha's vineyard in the winter with
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: no seat belts, just slashing all around that bench seat.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: We roll man.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: My next topic for everybody though, Even though Luke was
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: being super curmudgeony, I thought it was okay for him
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: to say, where do we stand with this guy? Oh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: we've called a truce. That part didn't bother me. That
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: needed to be acknowledged. I will agree with you, Luke.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I don't like staying at other people's houses either. It's
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: not fun, it's weird.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I agree, I don't mind it. I mean, if it's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a nice house.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Over a hotel, would you rather stay a hotel? Or
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: someone's house my own.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'd rather stay at somebody's house if it's you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I really would. No, I've always had good experiences with that,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: especially in ski country, you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: But you are they there renting a house is.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're there and they're hosting you, and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it's and it's fun. I love it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Oh God, you have to be so on your best behavior.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You can't just cloud around and watch TV. You have
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: to make the bed. You guys need to google Sebastian
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Man of Scalco. That can be bit on staying at
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: other people's houses, as it sums it up perfectly, just
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: like Rory when she's like, oh you can't take a
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: share at the same time like he does this a
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: whole bit about like this toilet doesn't really work, so
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: jiggle a handle.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: And you're just like, oh see, that's I think that's
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the problem. I think what you pointed out earlier is
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a palatial enough to stay for them to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: be behaving that way once they got inside the house
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that would have sold that same behavior in some kind
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of gorgeous mansion that was obviously worth you know, twenty
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: thirty million dollars that would have tracked, right.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: It says something, Am I right? He says something at
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I'd been grandma's house. It has its kinks something. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I still was like, hey, the Huntsburgers, no way, that
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: thing would have eight showers.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Right, that all they would have remodeled exactly.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: They would have had beautiful marble, white marble.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: I think they were trying to make it seem like
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: this is the cun Tree getaway cabin, you know, whack shack.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his exact Actually, Amy, his exact line was,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: it's a grandma, so it's got its kinks. It's a grandma.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Camp.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad they acknowledge it and don't act
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: like at least somehow, but I still was like, no way,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: these people are a millionaires.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: And the way they described it, like Rory talks about
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: how the dining room seats twenty, but like that doesn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: correlate with what we saw visually. That did not look
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: like a place that has a dining room that seats twenty.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: We saw five hundred dollars night Airbnb. Yeah, okay, okay, well,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and then now we get to where I sort of
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, Luke, you know, calling him snotty and
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: saying that he oh did you see how Logan was
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: so rude? He corrected Rory about the gym.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I was just like, what, Yeah, that was weird stuff up,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Like I wanted to just smack them.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And like why would they be scared to leave their room?
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: It was so odd.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was where I was like, oh my god,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I am not this is.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: If it was to Luke that Luke doesn't like Logan,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: then okay, I feel like there was another way of
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: doing it. But it just felt like out of character.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he like needs a signal the next morning
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: to come out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Did you tell him I was hiding? I mean, it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it's so forced, everything so forced, and.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Luke's a stud, right, so he's not going to be
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a weirdo. Like he's gonna own that thing. He's going
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: to be in the kitchen cooking up the meal. Like
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: he's literally just not going to be such a weirdo.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I wrote, why is Luke so weird?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That's maybe maybe it's you take him out of the diner,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: you take him out of that town, you put that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: behavior in someplace else and it's glaring. Maybe that's the reason.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Is it Camper, Right, he's not going to be bothered
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: by the waves or stand the raccoon, Like, I mean,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: we're beating a dead horse, right, Like Luke was a weirdo.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: We have to just acknowledge that. Whatever.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: That's the one episode that I would erase. If you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: were to say, you know, take your best episode and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: take your worst episode and just get them out so
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: we can average in, you know, that would be for me.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I'd say deep six to that episode.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I love it. I think things took a turn once
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: they're having the dinner, right, But okay, first let's get
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: to a couple of things. Rory coming down the steps
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: in Malibu and her cute blue coat. She did have
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: a cute cloth. Then they're all going to the gym.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Gym.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: They're all going to the gym. We've acknowledged the gym
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: was weird. Although I did enjoy his Luke's Martha's beenyard thing.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: This is where I wrote this episode isn't good. So
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: at this point I'm sort of like, really like, this
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: is not good and we're just wasting time, right, Like
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the gym was just like filling airtime to me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we got the gym twice, right, not just once.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Didn't they go back to it?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: No, they were there. It just felt like that because
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: first they were in the gym, then we went to
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the basketball, then we.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Went But here's the thing, what an opportunity to to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: lampoon Martha's vineyard.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Or to make it awesome either way either way?
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And then they chose to go into a.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Gym with right, which was like clearly in LA where
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: they put up stickers that said Martha's Vineyard gym or
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: something else.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Right, right, And Rory says, Oh, we like to go
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: to the gym when we're here. But then you see
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: her there and she doesn't understand anything.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: That's happening exactly. Obviously she doesn't go.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: To the jim while we're there.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I actually have a question.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: It makes sense, Scott.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I have a questioned. The show is in season We
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: in season five, yeah, five, six?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Sorry six?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: So at this point the show is very successful, has
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: made a lot of money. Why wouldn't they just like
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: send you guys on location, because like other networks have
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: done it, where like ABC would send all their tgifs
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to Disney World, like they would spend the money.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Well, you've got that real characters in the episode.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Because it's CW, the budgets aren't as big, the profit
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: isn't as big, the revenue is in as big.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Right, I think they spent the money on oliving in
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: John's House like it was already expensive.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Taking the budgets on these shows was not what you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: know a friend's budget is or or you know.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Man, Modern Family had their money.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Right if you're if your show, if you have a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: hit show on a major network ABCNBCCBS, Fox, now I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: guess we joined the big that's the Big Four, then
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you you've got some money to burn and you're making
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: large dollars on at that time the DVD side and all,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of revenue streams coming in. But
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on the CW with Gilmour, even though it was a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: hit show, it didn't have the it didn't have those
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: size the side.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I can give you a little a little fun fact
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: if you all want it. So you know the Ryan
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Murphy show nine to one one, that's on Fox. It's Foxes,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that's right, just went it's Fox's biggest hit. Right now,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: they're all kind of owned by the same people, so whatever,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: But it's Fox's biggest hit, but the show is so
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: expensive that Fox couldn't afford it anymore. And that's why
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: nine to one one is now going to be on ABC.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: So you think about that because that show is so
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: expensive to do with the stunts, and.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's a great example. I didn't think about that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can afford it. Right. This is why
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: hit shows get canceled, and nobody can understand. The audience
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is like, why did you cancel? It was the number one,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it was huge hit and all because it's too expensive
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to produce profit margin and as it as it, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: labor costs and casts want more salary. Then it just
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: gets more expensive every every year, but the revenue streams
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: remain the same or go down or dwindle.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: So it's an interesting thing though, because I would have
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: just kept you all in Stars Hollow. But whatever, for
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: whatever reason they wanted you to.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Malbot, don't get out of the boat.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Right right stage. Just do this same kind of concept.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I would have enjoyed if Rory and Logan decided to
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: come home to Stars Hollow for the weekend, we could
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: have had the same sort of episode, or or a
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Loreleizes House with Luke there and they're kind of having that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I guess the thing here is when it gets good
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: is when Mitcham comes in. But we'll get to that.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Valentine's Day in stars Hollow would have been
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: amazing with Babette and and.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Still could have had Mitcham come blaring in. Right if
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Mitchen went all the way from wherever he lives to
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Martha's vineyard. He could have gone from wherever he lives
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to stars Hollow and just knocked on the Gilmore door.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I imagine how much more disturbing and shocking if he
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: came into that very placid environment and blew up like that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: That would have been amazing.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then reacted like I don't think he's happier.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right exactly. It could have been so good.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And then he was like a volcano.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thought he was gonna head, was gonna blow exactly.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: It would have been so that would be a.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Right well back in the world we're in then now
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: we talked about this very reluctantly, and Rory's cooking, which
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: was weird, like she doesn't know how to cook. She's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: not gonna suddenly take it up when she goes to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Martha's vineyard. Nope, I get the GISTs we're supposed to get,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: like they she knows where everything is and they's such
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a happy couple and they're going on their trip to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Asia so that it's more disruptive when mitchem whatever. So
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: then we go outside and Logan says, I'm going to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: do the gift at dinner, and Luke's like, what murder
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Like he's never heard of a Valentine's President before. My
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: problem here.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Is stupid wardrobe.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: The tennis bracelet. Let me tell you how much a
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: tennis bracelet is not cheap, minimum five grand, probably maybe
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: thirty five hundred, right, So they were clearly a set.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So he's got this necklace. That necklace would have been
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: so expensive and just not the kind of thing that
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Luke would have.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And why didn't she suss that out? And that's what
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I thought she was gonna send when she was holding it,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: like I thought so too, Ogan gave this to you
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: because it looks exactly like the tennis bracelet. It came
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in a set.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Her reaction was like, in all these years, she has
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: never received a gift from Luke. That's how our reaction was. Well,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: she has as I know she has, but her reaction
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: was like, oh my, oh my god.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I have never seen such a beloved couple ever portrayed
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in such a bad light on TV.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: It was so weird.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: It was just like.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Like, well le meshing and then I had such a
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: flag on the way Rory was doing the tomatoes. Nobody
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: puts tomatoes slice like that in their salad. She was
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: cutting them like they were for a hamburger or sandwich.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I was just getting so irritated.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: It's like it was at that point when we started
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: just picking apart.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It was, but it does. It does that happens. It's snowballs.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: If something is a little oft and then it just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: starts snowballing. Then you just it's you.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: And now you're now you're Logan's best friend because he
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: gave you a necklace. Like that's sort of a D
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: move too, Like, oh, I only like this rich guy
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: because he saved my ass. Right, Yeah.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I was just like how to destroy a character one
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on one?
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And Rory so is is the word insipid? She's so
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: like these could be the ones like I'm sorry, what
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: about your whole Christian amanpour career? You're the head of
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: the Yale paper. These could be the ones.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: Well, and Luke and Lory were engaged, so clearly it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: not Luke could be the one, like Luke is the one.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: They're engaged to be married.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: We don't understand.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think I ever ripped apart.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: We had one other one we didn't like, but this
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: one's definitely going. And then like they're clapping for her,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Celery cutting, like what's happening.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Well, did you notice that Luke after all that about
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: the lobsters, Luke is the only one that had any
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: lobster pieces on his plate, Like Logan had like one
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: little piece, Rory had one little piece. It's like they
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: make this big deal about making the lobster and the
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: no one it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And then also like they have to add in like, yeah,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: we went to the same shop so we could bod
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: these together, like give it get the next.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they had to come up with the cover.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Let's just pause for a second. Let's each of us
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: state something positive about the episode. Ready, go, Tara, go.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: The end until this.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Point the end to end credits, No, no, not until
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: this point.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Only Zukree is all I can and.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Do Zoree, Susan, what do you think?
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: The only thing in this episode that redeems it for
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: me is Luke saying I love you?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: You know I love you?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awing feature of this episode.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: It starts to take a turn now, right, It starts
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: to get better now because he sort of acknowledges I've
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: been preoccupied, you know, I love you. We can have
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: lobster at our wedding. No, now it's taking a turn
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: right where they're sort of getting back to themselves. She
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: loves the necklace. Then they wake up the next morning
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: they slept like angels. The breakfast Santa blah blah blah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It's starting to get Now, I'm starting to feel like
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: more comfortable. Okay, I know where I am right, I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: now I'm in Gilmore Girls, and it's like the the
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Emilio Estevez reference. I'm like, okay, now I'm starting to
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: like this. They think they're going to elope really get
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: in somewhere and incomes bit Chum and that Now I'm like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: now cooking. I was like, now I'm now I'm.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Like forty one minutes.
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But mitcham as unhinged as he is
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: it was Now I loved it, right, Mitcham is yelling
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: at Logan.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Mitcham's so awful, he's so embarrassing, he's so inappropriate, and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the face acting ten out of ten because Rory's watching
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: lorealized face Luke everybody. Now I'm like, now this is good.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of times we hear Logan say
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: how far his dad is on him, but we we've
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: only seen it like maybe once, But I think this
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: is where we really see it, like you're gonna do this,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: You're gonna follow in my footsteps. End of discussion. You're
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: getting on that plane like we finally saw it instead
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: of hearing about it well, And we.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Get to see Luke say you need any help there,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: which meant you okay, buddy, like I got it, and
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: then Loral says no one understands, like I understand, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: we're having this moment where I'm like they're all bonding,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: and then he's very sweet with Rory like when are
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: you leaving? And he's like, let's just not think about it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: It's only February like all that. Suddenly, I literally don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: know how far into the episode we were, but now
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, now I like this.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you had to feel for Logan. I mean,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: no matter how you feel about him as a character,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you had to feel for him in that moment.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: And Greg Henry, who plays Mitcham, pulls that off because
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: that could have been over the top or too Carney
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: or too he pulled that off, like he comes in
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: like that Dad would yelling and raising his voice and
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: talking down and who are you? And da da da
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and still like well they stay, but you're out of here,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like and you He really pulls that off
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: that character.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: That scene where the two of them are just screaming
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: over each other was really well done.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: The faces on the other three it's like, oh my god.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: And I liked that they didn't step in because that
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: would have been not okay.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Here's a technical aspect of that. Greg and Matt knew
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: going in that they weren't going to cover the scene.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Means they weren't going to do cover close ups or
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: coverage either side of that argument. So the director was
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: it Dan Palatine Dance. So Dan said, look, this is
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just going to be a two shot. You'll both be
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in profiles to go ahead and overlap each other's dialogue,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: because when you do coverage, they really discourage you from
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: overlapping dialogue. They want to interesting, so then it kind
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of comes off stilted a little bit, but the editors
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: oftentimes want that space to cut the scene right. And luckily,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: luckily those guys got a free pass to be great,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, and no considerations for editing or no considerations
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: for coverage. They could just go, you know, full speed overlap,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: let's go, let's create a great, great scene like you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: would see in the theater.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Well, it feels like Dan Palladino's just showed up, like
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: he just started. Maybe at the Valentine's Dinner scene. I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: feel like he wasn't directing it leading up to that
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: because it was so bizarre. But now it's like whoa.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: And then I think it thrives from there. When we
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: go back to the diner. It felt good, and Caesar
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: is sort of like, wait, I was to tell you something,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: what was that? And then you sort of get the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: balloon popped when he brings up April, because suddenly Lorelei
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: isn't a part of it again. And I wanted so
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: badly for Luke to say, well, no, why don't you
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: come why don't you come. I thought it was weird
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: that she says the bike's at my place.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Isn't it. It almost sounded place. It almost sounded like
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a breakup. It was. It was yeah again, it was
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: just it was actually didn't think.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: That the bike's at my place. It's their place.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: It's It's funny though, because now that you say it,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I think about it. But when I was watching it,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I was just like, well, that's laurelized, Like in my head, yeah, there, he.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Just paid, But yeah, why are they acting like they're
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: breaking up and it's her place and he's got to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: come get his stuff out of there.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: She's gonna walk home. Like even though it was still good,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: now it was good strange instead of like, what showing
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: my strange strength.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the ending was just really disappointing for me because
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: you felt like when they had that moment at that
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Martha's vineyard house and he was like, oh, you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry I didn't that's just how I am. You
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: kind of felt like, Okay, now he's aware of what
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: laurelized perspective is, and now he's going to be better
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: about letting her. When I get back to the diner,
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: and it just goes right back to what it was.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, Laurela I by and I was so disappointed.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I guess we didn't make any progress here.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then we come so Laura I
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: walks home. I did like the flower on the back
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: of her jacket, and we play the messages, which I
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: thought was an effective way of telling this part of
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: the story. My flag is, why would it just be
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Larelli's picture in the paper that was so weird everyone else?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Why would it Why would Emily not put a picture
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: of Luke and Larelai?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So I think I think that says a lot about
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: how she feels about.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Luke and how would she have a picture of Luke.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's a diss I mean, I don't know.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's at the end of the day, it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: all about her daughter and her daughter's getting married because
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: it's going to be Emily's day, you know. It's yeah,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: this is more of an event for Emily than than
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: it is Laura Lai and Lukes. So I think she
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: just that's how she took it, like because it's her
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: status and d A R and all that stuff.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that she would have had a
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: reason to have a picture of Luke though.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Did you think it was at the birthday party or
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: at the re wedding, sorry, the re wedding.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: She could have asked for one, she could have exactly,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: but then she.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Was then Laura I would have known what she was doing,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: and she would have had to tell her the date
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: was postponed. Yeah, Luke or everybody was hot?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: All right? So I think, uh, we are going to
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: wrap up this delightful episode.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: So now what do we raid it?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Going to it?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Her favorite lines really from it?
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I had one I actually chuckled at. It was a
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: the school paper and it's when they were saying us
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: and them, and then Rory was like what are they
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: put on the paper? And He's like s and m
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: oh yeah. I actually I had laugh at that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: A highly unlikely mistake that a yeah, reach HIV, what
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: are you giving this? And what is your measure?
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, my measuring measuring stick is going to be lobsters
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to give it. I'm going to give
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: it five lobsters.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of lobster, Suzanne, what is.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna give this. I thought that there
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: was some of the banter was good. So I'm going
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: to also give this five giant knives.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I'm giving it six. So I thought I hated it
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: the most Smarta's vineyards or awkwardly sliced tomatoes.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I can't decide mix the both.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Six. Yeah, it's my lowest we've had in how many
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: What episode number? Is this my lowest score?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I think mine too, mm hmm.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give it since I kind of take
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it personally, since I had to watch that myself being
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that and it was not it was not enjoyable, I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: going to give it. I'm going to put it down
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: into the threes. Oh, I'm going to give it a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: three point six. Fow, I'm going to give it a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: three point six five. Uh, portable camp of burners that
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: is out of kerosene.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: The only thing with maybe three points six ' five
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: bowie knives to take off the feet if anybody involved.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: That thing is officially the lowest rating on any episode
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: we don't.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just think. I mean, listen, I understand
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the creative people like to mix it up if they
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: feel a little stale and they come up with an idea.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Let's take it to Martha's vain. Let's do that. Then
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that's what they must do, uh, to find their way
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: back home as it were. So I don't I applaud
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the effort. You know, it's hard to take this out
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of Star's hollow so much and limit it to so
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: few characters. So I applaud the effort, But you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the execution is a different story.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I feel like the more we talked about it, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: like dislike I didn't mind being at the beach house
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: at first, and then alway talking about it, I'm like, yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: it just go worse.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll sway anyway, I'm worried, you know what.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I also will say, I'm not sure I've seen this episode,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: but once, like one episode I've ever rewatched, and I wonder,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: like I was literally like, have I even seen this ever?
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of like confused.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a famous so we might be.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: In for some trouble, but I do know. Look, anyway,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I digress.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: We're gonna We're just gonna tuck and roll out of
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this anyway. Thanks, ladies. The house is on fire. Let's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: just get out of that we got to get some
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: fresh air. Thank you ladies, Tarist, Suit, Susan and French Amy,
• 48:48
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• 48:52
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• 49:02
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• 49:08
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• 49:40
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