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Show 249: Questions about Marriage, Divorce and Christian Burial · The Uncensored Catholic

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Speaker 1: A Hey, y'all, welcome this week's show. We are going
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to get in some really interesting information from post Barrago's
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exhaustive explanation of the Catechism in just a few minutes.
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A lot of things I don't think a lot of
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modern Catholics know, the things that are inssily taught in
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Catechism classes or rcia or ocia about Catholic funerals actually
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a very interesting You know, if you if you're creatile Catholic,
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you grew up with it, you may take a lot
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of this stuff for granted. And if you're a convert,
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it's probably going to be very new information. But first
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let's start with a couple questions and answers from radio replies.
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And the person asks, do you include marriage among the sacraments?
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So they can answer, of course, yes, every valid marriage
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between baptized Christians constitutes the sacrament of matrimony. And that
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person says, but Christ did not institute marriage. It existed
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long before his advent into this world. And they answer,
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prior to Christ, existed as a matrimony contract. But Christ
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elevated to the dignity of a sacrament of the new law.
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Christ therefore instituted matrimony as a sacrament. He blessed marriage
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by his presence at Cana and declared it's indissolubility when
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he said, what God has joined, let no man put asunder. Henceforth,
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what was formerly a union by human contract was to
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be regarded by Christians as sealed by God in a
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new and special way. And he asked, how can marriage
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be a sacrament? And they answer, A sacrament is a
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visible rite instituted by Christ for the signifying and giving
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of grace. Marriage is a visual right wistness by men.
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It has been elevated by Christ a sacramental dignity. It
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signifies something very sacred, the union of Christ and his Church.
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Of Saint Paul tells us in Ephesians five twenty two
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through thirty three, there is but one Christ and one
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true Church. So there must be one husband and one
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wife in each case. As there is no divorce between
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Christ and his Church, so there can be no divorce
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between husband and wife. And as the union between Christ
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and the Church results in the production of grace, so
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this sacred union of marriage conveys grace to the contracting parties,
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or that they may rightfully fulfill their duties to each
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other and to their children for the love of God.
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The person says, marriage is a legal status, not subject
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to any law spiritual, and the presensor if no law
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spiritual governs marriage, why did Christ say, but I say
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unto you that whosoever should put away his wife and
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marry another committeth adultery. Christ was not the civil ruler,
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and he said this explicitly render to Caesar the things
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they are Caesar's. If marriage belongs solely to the civil authority,
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Christ would have left it to civil authority. And why
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does Saint Paul said marriage is a great sacrament? But
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I speak in Christ and in the Church. He did
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not say, but I speak for the viewpoint of civil authority.
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Again where elsewhere he writes, let her marry to whom
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she will, only let it be in the Lord First
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Corinthians six point thirty nine. Person says, according to your
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doctrie doctrine, polygamy would be wrong. The Bible permits it.
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And they answer, Christ clearly tells us whatever concessions were
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made in the old law, it was God's intention from
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the very beginning that man should cleave to his wife,
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not to his wives. And the two should be one flesh.
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God has made concessions because of the hardness of men's
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hearts and the less perfect law, but those concessions were
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withdrawn in the more perfect law. Christ restores the primitive
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law and said, henceforth, what God has joined together, let
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man not put asunder Mark ten two through nine. And
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I'm gonna I'm gonna stop that. When there a pause
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it there, I should say we'll probably have Yeah, We're
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gonna talk a lot more about marriage, at least two
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more shows with little introductory questions and answers. I don't
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like to spend more than five or ten minutes on him.
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You know, this is like a basic katechises in a
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question answer format, which is very, very useful, but you
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can be overwhelming if it goes on for too long.
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You want two or three, maybe five questions and answers.
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That's you know, anybody can hold that process and understand it.
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So have maybe another day or two on marriage. Basically,
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the one thing that can be said University of Protestants
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is they freaking love divorce. I mean they get Jesus
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says that marriage is a permanent sacrament and divorce is
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not permitted in all four Gospels, and then Saint Paul
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repeats it, and I think a few more times as
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James or Peter. I can't remember exactly the quotes off
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the top of my head. Protestants to say, their sole
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authority is the Bible, will turn a blind eye to
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those passages. They would rip them out of the Bible
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if they could. Protestants love divorce. I mean, even Martin
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Luther said he didn't really prove divorce, but he thought
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polygamy and bigamy and adultery would were wonderful. If there's
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one thing, I mean, the entire Anglican Church is founded
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upon divorce. King Henry had formerly been cutting his wife's
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heads off and said, Okay, maybe this time I'll ask
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the Pope for divorce. The Pope says no, and he says, okay,
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I'm gonna go for my own church. The entire Anglican
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Church is founded on divorce. I have been to Baptist
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churches where the preacher has been married three or four times,
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and oddly enough his ex wives and their new husbands
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and their new families are sitting in that same congregation,
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and usually they've divorced two or three times. I mean,
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if there is one thing Protestants love. It is cheating
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on their spouse's adultery and divorce. I mean that is
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like universal. I don't care if you go to a Presbyterian,
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a Baptist, a Methodist, Anglican, a Lutheran, Pentecostal, a Church
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of God, you name it, seven day ad venice. They
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hate the sacrament of marriage. But on that same hand,
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they'll turn around and say, well, it's not right the
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priests aren't married. And it's like, wait a minute, actually,
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you know, Saint Paul said it was better if priests
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weren't married. But it is a discipline of the Roman rite,
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and if they wanted to join a different rite of
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the church, they could be married priests. They choose to
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adopt that what would you call it, oh, there's a
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word for it. Discipline. They choose to adopt that discipline.
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But the Bible does specifically say it's better if a preacher,
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a presbyter, of deacon whatever not be married specifically. But
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Protestants will just rail against priestly celibacy. Why because they
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don't practice celibacy in their own lives. They cheat on
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each other's spouse, they cheat on their own spouses, They
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cheat with their best friends, husbands and wives. They get
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divorced six or seven times. Damn the kids. They don't
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give a crap about their children. I mean, seriously, that's
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the foundation and heart of Protestantism is divorce. Like the
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priests were just saying in that intro chapter there, I
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think the first question was the second one. Just as
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Jesus and the Church are bound one to another, one
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spouse to another in a heavenly form of matrimony, polygamy
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is not allowed because man can only be married to
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one wife. What did Martin Luther do but create multiple wives?
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If Jesus is espoused to the Catholic Church, can he
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be espoused to the Lutheran Church without violating the laws
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against bigamy or polygamy? New New Literally, the very foundation
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of Protestantism is divorce, is rejecting chastity. Well, it's pride,
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it's first. I mean, you know, pride is the first sin.
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But it's saying, yeah, there can be other churches, and
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you can have other wives, and you and wives can
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have other husbands, and you know there are no consequences
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to sin anyway. Martin Luther actually encouraged He said he
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could commit adultery and murder. I think was an adultery
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and fornication. Maybe that was it A thousand times a
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day now I think he actually said murder and it
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wouldn't keep you out of heaven. I mean, foundationally this
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you want to upset Protestants, show them in the Bible
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or Jesus condemns divorce, and they'll say, well, that was
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back then, we don't believe that now. And you say, well,
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here it says God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
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And you know, there's one truth and the truth never changes.
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And you know, they'll come up with a thousand different
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things to debate you on points of history or you know,
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quotes from the Bible taking out of context. The one
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thing they cannot stand and cannot handle. I mean, they'll say, well,
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Jesus didn't really mean it when he said, this is
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my flesh and my blood. You have to eat it
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and drink it and have eternal life. They'll say, Jesus
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didn't really mean it when he said you had to
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be baptized to be saved. You know, Jesus didn't really
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mean it when he gave his apostles the power to
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forgive sins, et cetera. And they'll come up with all
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kinds of twisted ways of explaining that. But you go
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from one gospel of the next and say, here Jesus
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condemned divorce. Here Jesus said, no, Christian can't divorce, no divorce,
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no divorce, no divorce, no divorce, no divorce, no divorce.
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One who gets divorced and marries another commits adultery. Adultery's
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immortal sin. Adultery violates the Ten Commandments. That's one thing
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they can absolutely not answer. That is the pen that
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bursts the bubble of Protestantism, divorce, And ironically, it's the
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reason why in about thirty years from now, mainline Protestantism
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will be no more. Since the nineteen seventies, the Anglican
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Church or the Episcopal Church in America has lost nearly
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eighty percent of its members. This is pre COVID seventy
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to eighty percent, depending on where you look. The Lutheran Church.
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You've got two branches of Lutheran ones, like the evangelical side.
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One is the traditional side, Traditional side down ever seventy percent,
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Evangelical side down about fifty percent. Okay, Presbyterian Church has
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lost about eighty percent of its members. It's down to
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I think a million four at last count. And there
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used to be tens of millions of Presbyterians, especially in
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the southeast. I mean that was the biggest denomination in
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North Carolina. And now there are fewer Presbyterians than there
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are in the city of the population of the city
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of Winston Salem. Okay, I mean seriously, And now I
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mean one of our medium large cities about a million people,
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like Charlotte's like three four million people. That's more than
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all the Presbyterians in the entire country. The Methodist Church
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is down about fifty percent. The Baptist Church is down
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about thirty percent. And this is all pre COVID. Remember
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when they closed their doors and didn't have church services
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during COVID. A lot of people never went back. So
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these numbers are actually a lot worse than what I'm
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telling you right now. The reason is divorce. People, especially
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in the Protestant Church, go to the church they were
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brought up in. Their parents took them to church, They
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went to Sunday School, they went to Vacation Bible School.
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They were raised Baptists, so they are Baptists. They don't
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know why they're Baptists. They just know their Baptist because
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their parents are Babtists and their grandparents were Baptist. Same
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as even more true Presbyterianism, which makes and Methodism actually,
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but Presbyterianism makes absolutely no sense in its doctrine theology.
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As I said, the Anglican Church is essentially the Church
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of England in the Episcopal as well. Your Anglican or
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Episcopal because your ancestors were English and because King Henry
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wanted a divorce. That's the only reason to be an
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Anglican or Episcopal. Because their doctrine is essentially the same
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as Lutheran. It's just their English and the Lutherans were German,
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so they wouldn't join a German church. You know, it's ridiculous,
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I mean that, But that is Protestanism. You're a Methodist
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because your grandparents are Methodists. Because your parents are Methodists,
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is because you were raised in the Methodist Church. Yes,
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unfortunately that is true of some cradle Catholics. You know.
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That's your Nancy Pelosis and your Joe Biden's their Catholic
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in name only. That's a topic for another day. But
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for converts like myself, and for a lot of younger Catholics,
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not the baby boomer generation, pretty well cnechized. We know
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why we are a Catholic. You ask them Methodist, what's
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the method? I did that when I was a Methodist
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youth minister. I was very interested. You know, I had
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been confirmed in the Methodist church at about the age of
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eleven or so. I went through all their classes and everything,
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which didn't amount to a lot. And I got hired
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to well to help out as a Methodist youth minister.
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And I asked the minister, Okay, we're Methodists, so therefore
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there must be a method. Could you explain to me
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what it is? What's the method of Christian perfection? Great?
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Can you explain that to me? No, I have no
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idea what that means. I went to the elders and
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deacons and even the bishop of the you know Methodists
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have a bishop by the way, and I said, what
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is the method? I don't know, I don't know. Can
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you explain it to me? Well, when you know Wesley
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wrote this, he talked about the method of but what
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does it mean? No idea? So I mean you can't.
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There's kind of reason a Methodist is a Methodist. A
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Methodist is a Methodist because they were raised in the
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Methodists ur or because a friend invited them when they
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were older. But usually it's going to be two, three,
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four generations in the same church in the same town.
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What's the thing that wrecks that divorce? When the family
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splits up, the kids go with one parent or another,
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maybe that parent stops attending church, maybe that parent starts
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going to another church. Divorce number two comes along. At
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that point, there's pretty much no church attendance whatsoever in
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most families by the second divorce. You know, you can,
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you know, look at the stats. I can't pull them
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up in mind. I saw this years ago. But basically
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for each divorce after that, the chances of those that
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family attending church together goes down the toilet. I mean,
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you start getting mixed families where the kids have step
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brothers and sisters they're not even related to. They don't
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like each other, maybe they don't like their new stepfather
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or step mother, and mixed people from mixed backgrounds. Maybe
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you know, one's a Presbyterian, one's a Baptist, and in
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the Presbyterian is not comfortable of the Baptist Church and
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the Baptist is from the Presbyterian Church, or maybe they are,
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you know, still sort of in a more rural setting
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where people don't really approve of well, I can't say
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that anymore. When I was a kid, like in the
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nineteen eighties, Baptists didn't really like divorce. They didn't approve
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of it. Now, I mean, my Baptist export in door
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neighbor in one of the most rural communities in the
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South in the Appalachians. I believe she was his fourth
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wife and he was her third husband, and they just
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got divorced. So that's what destroys prize and churches. That's
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the death knell. If these trends continue, which there's no
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reasonablieve they won't, the Presbyterian Church will cease to exist
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within thirty years, except as sort of a historical site
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now and then you know, they have endowments that will
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last for a while. They're already more ministers than there
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are churches. Because the churches are closing so fast. The
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Presbyterian colleges are shutting down. The Presbyterian Church will basically
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exist in name only within the next thirty years. The
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same is true of the Anglican Episcopal now They will
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keep a presence obviously in Washington, d C. And some
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of the more prominent areas because Episcopalians Anglicans among America's founders,
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and they have big pots of money, and you know,
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still will carry a little political influence. They're very big
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in the Masonic Order, the Freemasons. So are the Presbyterians.
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So I mean there's going to be a little bit
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of them left, but they're basically gone. Traditional Lutheranism will
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be gone. I mean it may again linger in a
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few like Midwestern states where it's you know, more part
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of people's Germanic heritage. They have Evangelical Lutherans pretty much gone.
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The Methodists will be about in the same condition that
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the Presbyterians are now. I mean they'll be down to
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about a million. They are only about, I think what
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thirteen million Methodists in the United States right now. There
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used to be seventy million. I mean think about that.
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You know, they'll be gone. Mainline Baptists, you're talking your
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Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist. You go downtown in a
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city and there's your first Baptist church. That's your mainline Baptist,
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that's not your fringe groups and there are you know,
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the free will Baptists and all kinds of stuff like that.
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Mainline Baptists will be down to a fraction of what
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it is now, maybe thirty percent of where it was
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ten years ago, I mean. And the Catholic population is
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growing in huge numbers. There are now more Catholics in
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the I mean, Catholic Church is the biggest Christian denomination
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in the United States. In thirty years, the Catholic Church
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will out number all Protestants put together. And that includes
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your Evangelicals and fringe groups. And you know, we will
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be the largest denomination of the country. And if America
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is going to retain its Christian values upon which it
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was founded on at least in part, we're going to
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have to get really active in bringing people into the
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Catholic Church and teaching them. And one of the main
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things we can tell them is, look, in the Catholic Church,
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we don't accept divorce in extreme circumstances. You can get
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file for an annoyment if you have real sincere cause
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for it, but no divorce. Your family is going to
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be together and stay together for intact from the time
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you marry to the time you die, and your children
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will be raised the same way. There won't be all
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this strife and angst. And I mean it's divorce destroys families. Obviously,
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it's really bad for kids. We're talking depression, anxiety, drug use, suicide,
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risky behavior, is violence. I mean, every single study ever
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shown has shown that divorce hurts the children. I think
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we can offer I think we can offer America a
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much better vision. And frankly, if we don't, Christianity's done
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for in the United States, for half the population. Catholic
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Church will continue to grow. Catholic Church will continue to
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be Catholic, but you'll have vast swaths of people whose
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grandparents were Protestant who no longer believe anything. And that's
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kind of what we see now in Western Europe. And
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it's not good. It's not good at all. I mean,
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you look at what's going on in Spain and Ireland
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and England. I mean, Muslim's taken over, raping and murdering
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with impunity and nobody with the guts the will to
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do a thing about it. Home sexuality, transgenderism, and there's
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no moral authority because how do you have moral authority.
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I mean, Spain's a really sad case, Spain still was
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essentially a Catholic nation, but its entire government is communist
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and you know, atheistic at its core. England is you know,
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a totally different thing. You know, France wants Catholic nation,
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hasn't been for three hundred years now, almost two hundred
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some years. It's bad, It's truly bad. Ireland is just horrible.
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I mean, what England did to Ireland is genocide and slavery.
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But with then, what Irish communist politicians have done to
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Catholic Ireland is just as bad, if not worse. And Scotland,
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Scotland the brave my butt. I mean, Scotland caved and
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surrendered and sold out so many centuries ago. Scotland's a disgrace,
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an absolute utter disgrace. And I'm part Scottish. I hate
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to say that. I'm very proud of my Scottish heritage.
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Scotland is an absolute disgrace anyway, America is not far behind.
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Look at Canada. Canada is worse than we are. And
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Canada is not even a Christian nation anymore. Canada is
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passing law, is saying you can't even read the Bible
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if it will offend a Muslim or homosexual in church
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with a minister. Canada is lost. Canada is just so awful.
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And you know, in Mexico, since the Communist revolution in Mexico,
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you know, Poncho Villa time, I mean, they never really
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came back. They never really came back. I mean they've
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all I mean essentially, they've had a very strong communist
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leaning and it's just horrible, even though as some majority
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Catholic nation, right, well, yeah, but the people in office aren't.
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I mean, we've had a couple of Catholic presidents in America,
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John Kennedy and Joe Biden. What did they do exactly
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to advance Catholic morals and ideals? I mean Kennedy couldn't
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keep his pants on long enough and Biden was an
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abortion supporting trends, gays, promoting senile moron. I mean, anyway,
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we have to offer people the alternative of a church
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that is true to the teachings of Christ and his apostles.
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And if we do that, people will be attracted to it.
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If we start compromising, we're no better than the Protestants.
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So let's get on too, father Sparaga, and we're going
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to talk about let's see where I left off. Yes,
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we talked about processions. Now we're talking about Christian burial.
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Christian burial is a solemn service accompanied by special ceremonies,
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in which the remains of a departed Catholic are carried
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in procession to the place of internment. As is usual
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in every procession, the cross is carried first to note
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that our prayers are offered in the name of the
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crucified Redeemer. The bells are told, psalms and funeral hymns
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are sung the special ceremonies that Christian's one of those
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words I have trouble with. Obsequies obse e q u
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i e s Obsequies are all significant of our prayer
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that God may have mercy on the soul of the deceased.
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The lighted tapers express that's candles, by the way, express
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the desire that the departed may be admitted into the
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realms of perpetual light. The holy water sprinkled on the
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coffin expresses the desire that the soul may be cleansed
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from sin. The incense that is burned expresses the desire
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that our prayers on His behalf may extend, may ascend
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to the throat of the most High. Yeah, okay, oh,
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even as the clouds roll upper Okay, I lost my
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place for a second. Ascend to the throat of the
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most High, even as the clouds of smoke roll upward.
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A requiem mass is generally celebrated at funerals, and sometimes
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an oration is delivered to invite the moorars to pray
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for the departed if the body is not present. I
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don't even know how to pronounce this. I've never even
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heard this word before. Kata falc kata falca c a
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t a f a l q u e wow A
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cata falc occupies the place of the coffin. The ceremonies
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observed at the obsequies of a child and here seven
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years old, are such as express joy and gladness. White
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vestments worn by the priests. The Reese praises on the
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coffin are supposed to represent the victor's crown gained by
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the departed. The present custom of loading the coffin and
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cover the grave with costly floral decorations of every size
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and shape is greatly to be deprecated. It is a
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waste of money that had far better be given to
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the poor or expended on masses for the repose of
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that departed, As Saint Augustine expressly says that unnecessary display
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should be avoided at funerals. The soul of departed can
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surely reap no benefit from what is reprehensible. Now that's something, dear,
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I doubt how many of you creatle Catholics actually know,
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or converts for that matter, the Catholic tradition is not
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to have all these expensive flowers and fancy funerals. It's
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really just a mass. And you know, maybe what's the
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word eulogy or eulogy said people remember the departed, and
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then the masses said for the departed and for the family,
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and all that not what it is now. You know,
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one of my family friends that I grew up with,
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you know, knew him since I was like six. You know,
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he was one of my mom's friends. He was always around,
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big goofball of a guy, but very anti Catholic, Baptist.
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Really one of those people that when we became Catholic,
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just abandoned us after you know, thirty years of friendship,
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turned his back and walked away. But my uncle was
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the only Catholic in the family. When he passed away.
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This fellow came went up to the DC area with
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us and went to his funeral because he had known him,
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and it's the only time he had ever been to
27:29
a Catholic church. The only time he'd ever been to
27:31
a Catholic funeral had anything to do with Catholicism, right, Well,
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my uncle's brother was also gay, and he of course
27:39
had been raised in the church, but he did not
27:41
attend Mass anymore. And I tell you that they both
27:46
were wonderful. Actually, no issues were discussed, no arguments or anything.
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The uncle did not go up for I mean, the
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uncle's brother did not go up for commune. He was
27:59
respectful of the Eucharist. That was nice. He sat right
28:03
there beside the you know Southern Baptists who hated Catholics
28:06
and homeseexuals and everything, and everybody was very polite and pleasant.
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And afterwards our friend said, this is the most beautiful
28:16
funeral I have ever attended. This is what every funeral
28:20
should be like. And I'm like, well, that kind of
28:23
is what every funeral should be like. I mean that
28:26
was the intention. That's the way it was done for
28:28
two thousand years. It you know, maybe you want to
28:32
look at why it's not done that way in the
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Baptist Church, And it kind of almost got through to
28:37
him for a second, and then he shut down. No,
28:39
that was it. But it says it is becoming to
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treat the human body with respect after death. For during
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our lifetimes our bodies are sacred as being the abode
28:50
and instrument of the soul, which is made in God's image.
28:53
They are also the temple of the holy ghosts, and
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to be held in honor for God's sake. Moreover, the
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burial of the dead is the work of which is
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not without its rewards. Remember how Tobias acted. In the
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early days of Christianity. Persons of the highest position, even popes,
29:07
did not consider it demeaning themselves to carry the remains
29:11
of martyrs in their arms to the graves and bury
29:13
them with their own hands. In the days of persecution,
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the place of burial was in the catacombs, where the
29:19
holy sacrifice was altered offered, I should say. Hence it
29:24
came to pass that in later times the dead were
29:26
buried in the crypts of churches or in the grounds
29:29
surrounding the church, which is called the churchyard. This custom
29:33
is now abolished on sanitary grounds cemeteries being situated on
29:37
the outskirts of towns. For the most part, an exaggerate
29:40
idea as to the unhealthiness of intramural sepulture has contributed
29:46
to the introduction introduction of the unnatural and pagan custom
29:50
of cremation. Yes, remember this written in the eighteen nineties.
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At this point the Church absolutely forbade cremation now is
30:00
permitted in some cases, but the ashes must be buried.
30:04
You can't just keep them on your mantle or scatter
30:06
them in the wind like people do. Says no danger
30:10
to the living may be apprehended from the proximity of
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the burial ground, provided the graves are of a proper depth,
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for earth is known to be the best possible disinfectant.
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That's actually true. But we also have vaults. Now, you
30:26
know your coffin actually goes inside of a concrete vault.
30:29
So in fus Bragger's time it was just wood, so
30:32
very different. Cremation is condemned by the Church as being
30:35
an abominable abuse. Originally, the cost of inturing the dead
30:39
and the ground was common to all nations. For the
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most human ancient remains that have been discovered bear no
30:45
signs of having been subjected by fire. Vaults containing skeletons
30:49
have been met with closed by a slab of stone.
30:52
We know that the Jews bury their dead. Holy Scripture
30:54
constantly speaks of the burial of kings and prophets that
30:57
his corpse should be left unburied? Was a chest heism
31:00
threatened to the transgressor Deuteronomy? What is that? Twenty six?
31:06
I think so. Only during a time of pestilence were
31:08
the Jews allowed to burn individual corpses aim As six'.
31:12
Ten The, romans in earlier times buried their. Dead cisro
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tells us that their graves were considered as, sacred and
31:19
the profanation of a tomb was severely, punished even by
31:22
the loss of a. Hand bodies were often deposited in,
31:25
sarcophagi where they were reduced to. Dust Pliny PLINY i should,
31:30
say records that The romans only buried their dead when
31:33
they feared that they might be outraged by the, enemy
31:36
and later, times when manners became, corrupt cremation was practiced among.
31:41
Them the custom of embalming the dead prevailed among The.
31:45
Egyptians it is a noteworthy fact that all barbarious nations
31:49
who in an uncivilized state burn their dead substitute the
31:52
grave for the funeral. Pyre as soon as civilization shed
31:55
its light on their. Land christianity did in fact abolished.
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Cremation but in these, days When christian faith is on the,
32:02
decrease cremation is once more becoming the. Fashion Saint augustine
32:06
announces the practice is horrible and. Barbarous it offends Our christian,
32:10
instincts for we are taught to regard death as a.
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Sleep the dead sleep In Christ First corinthians fifteen. Eighteen
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for they arise, again and they are laid to rest in.
32:19
Peace with the idea of repose they enjoy is connected
32:23
with the, churchyard not with the. Crematorium when we commit
32:26
our dead to the kindly, earth we tact tacitly express
32:30
our belief that our body is like a seed which
32:32
casts in the ground to germinate and spring. Up you support.
32:36
Her it is so in, corruption it is raised in,
32:43
Incorruption First, corinthians fifteen forty. Two As, christians we have
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a higher esteem for the, soul which partakes of divine,
32:50
nature and consequently for the, body which is the servant
32:53
and tool of the. Soul no True christian can fail
32:56
to shrink from the horrors of. Cremation only those who
32:59
are lost to all sense of dignity of human, nature
33:02
to all belief in the truths of, religion can desire
33:05
it for. Themselves let us remember That, christ our great
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EXEMPLAR i work was laid in the tomb and rose.
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Again For, pagans such considerations naturally have no weight by
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WORD i tick on my throat that one. Quit they
33:26
dislike the sight of the sepultural monument the maund raised
33:29
over the, dead because it reminded them of, death which
33:32
would put an end to their earthly. Enjoyments for the same,
33:35
reason unbelievers in our own day advocate. Cremation burial suggests
33:40
to them too strongly the immortality of the, soul whereas
33:43
cremation appears to the promise of annihilation that they desires
33:48
their portion after. Death, yet let no one imagine that
33:51
The christian dreads destruction of the body by fire as
33:55
an impediment to its future. Resurrection For god can affect
33:58
the reintegration of the body has been dissolved Into gassi's
34:02
elements and the interest of. Justice destruction of the body
34:05
by fire is highly, reprehensible since if a body is,
34:09
buried it can be afterward exhumed if this is necessary
34:12
for detection of a crime such as. Murder by this
34:17
means many a murder has been brought to justice after,
34:20
cremation this is. Impossible those, therefore who speak in favor
34:24
of cremation befriend criminals inasmuch as they aid in the
34:27
removal of all traces of their. Crime christian burial is
34:31
denied to the, unbaptized to the Non, catholic And catholics
34:35
who are known to have died in moral. Sin catholics
34:38
to Whom christian burial is denied are suicides unless they
34:42
are insane at the time of death and therefore. Irresponsible
34:45
it's a very fine, point but an important. One Most
34:50
catholics who commit suicide now will receive A christian, burial
34:55
because we assume they weren't the right state of mind
34:59
when they killed. Them so in Post roger's time it
35:05
was far more, stringent we might, say AND i don't
35:09
know if this for better or for, Worse probably for the. Better,
35:11
actually in that, case duelist anyone who participates in a
35:17
duel cannot receive A christian. Burial did you know? That,
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Yes and any persons who obstinately refused to receive the last,
35:23
sacraments or who have not for years fulfilled The easter
35:28
precept going To mass On. Easter in the two last,
35:32
cases the matter is generally laid before the. Bishops by the,
35:35
way All Freemasons catholics who joined The Masonic order take
35:40
an oath saying they were refused last, Rites so anyone
35:43
who joins The Masonic order cannot receive A catholic. Burial
35:47
The Nile Christian bureau to Bad catholics is not intended
35:50
as the sentence of, damnation but merely as a public
35:52
expression of abhorrence of their sins and for the purpose
35:55
of deterring others from falling into the same. Sin and
35:59
association would be a little thought of if one of
36:01
its members followed to the grave a fellow member who
36:04
had been a disgrace to that. Society so it would
36:06
be derogatory to The church and to her ministers if
36:09
she were to celebrate the obsequies of an Unfaithful. Catholic
36:14
The church also refuses ecclesiastical burial to Non catholics because
36:18
she holds the principle expressed By Pope innocent The third
36:21
in the, words it is impossible for us to hold
36:23
in communion after their death with those who have not
36:26
been in communion with us during their. Life so to
36:30
do so would give rise to the idea that all
36:32
religions are. Alike it would destroy the prestige of The
36:35
Catholic church and injure the souls of. Men the maxim
36:39
of the church is that the ground she has consecrated
36:42
is the last resting place of her, children and none
36:45
but members of her family have a right to be
36:48
interred Therein yet she permits Non catholic relatives to be
36:51
laid in a family. Vault for. Suicides a portion of
36:55
the cemetery which has not been consecrated is set. Apart
36:58
and AS i, said a lot of that has. Change
37:02
most priests now have a degree in psychology as well
37:06
as their theological, degrees and that has led to a
37:10
lot of bad, stuff a lot of you, know bending
37:14
the rules on homosexuality and a lot of stuff like.
37:17
That psychology can never Trump christian, morality but we do
37:25
have a little bit better understanding of the desperate state
37:29
of mind that leads some people to commit. Suicide, now
37:32
some people actually commit suicide out of. Spite they are
37:37
doing so to essentially out of, revenge make other people
37:41
feel bad for what they perceive has been done to.
37:44
Them that's not a mental, illness but people who are
37:49
in a very confused, state a very desperate, state people
37:54
who are an intense physical, pain say from cancer or
37:59
something like. That The church is far more compassionate than
38:04
in times, past AND i think that's a good. THING
38:06
i think it's a very good. Thing you, know there's
38:12
a lot in, between BUT i think the church airs
38:18
more on the side of caution, now more on the
38:20
side of. Compassion and, honestly very few people know the
38:27
minds of someone who's going to commit. Suicide you, KNOW
38:31
i was a huge fan Of Anthony. Bourdain he AND
38:34
i are a lot, alike were a lot. Alike he's A.
38:38
Yankee he was A yankee of, course For New york
38:41
and all That New. JERSEY i think he was more
38:42
In New. Jersey similar mix of mostly you, Know french
38:47
And irish, heritage, foodies punk, rockers, cynical, outspoken, caustic sometimes. Sarcastic,
38:58
Yeah i'm all those. THINGS i. Admit it can be
39:02
very difficult to be. Around but he was. Smart he
39:06
was you, know he had a really good. Heart he
39:08
was very, compassionate very. Charitable he really loved especially people
39:14
in the fringes of, society you, know poor, folks, kids you,
39:19
know really very actually pretty good man at. Heart, now
39:25
he had been a drug addict of cocaine and heroin
39:28
addiction and alcoholism and all. That but, yeah he became,
39:33
successful and the more successful he, became the more miserable he.
39:37
Became and after having three very successful television series and
39:44
best selling books and becoming an international, celebrity he was absolutely.
39:48
Miserable and his first marriage probably should not have broken,
39:53
up they should have stayed. Together second, MARRIAGE i can't.
39:58
Remember he was married two or three. Times but, anyway
40:00
the woman he was with in the end was very
40:03
bad for, him very bad for, him and in my,
40:06
opinion just kind of brought out the worst of his.
40:10
PERSONALITY i. Think and, uh, yeah he committed, suicide AND
40:18
i understand what was going on in his. MIND i
40:24
can feel, IT i can identify with. IT i, am
40:28
LIKE i, said more like him than. Not but, uh
40:35
he was Born, catholic he was Confirmed. Catholic he was,
40:38
Baptized AND i don't know if he's buried in A
40:42
catholic cemetery or. Not AS i, UNDERSTAND i think his
40:46
wife was author Also. Catholic she had absolutely abandoned The Catholic,
40:50
church renounced. IT i don't know if she had a
40:51
priest bless's grave or. Not and If i'm wrong about,
40:54
THAT i am. SORRY i hope you know she's back
40:56
in the church and all, that but she a few
41:00
times her, speaks she's just incredibly cynical and negative about.
41:03
Everything who, knows maybe that was just. Snacked hopefully it.
41:08
Was but you, know it would be hard for me to.
41:11
Say was he in such a desperate? State you know
41:16
that his actions were not his? RESPONSIBILITY i can't say
41:23
on a daily, Basis probably. Not but then how drunk was?
41:27
HE i mean he was a really heavy, DRINKER i
41:30
mean really really heavy. Drinker was he in control of
41:36
his faculties at the. Time, SEE i can't answer, that and,
41:39
unfortunately you, know neither can he. Priest and so the
41:42
church now kind of errs on the side of. Compassion
41:47
so say a prayer for the propos of the soul
41:49
Of Anthony. Bourdain he was a really good, guy we
41:53
have been really good, friends insulting each other constantly and
41:58
trying out to do each other with food or find
42:01
the weirdest old music we could put. On really like that,
42:04
guy and it really broke my heart really when he committed.
42:07
Suicide but The, Church, YEAH i think the church is
42:15
right in aerring on the side of, compassion AND i
42:18
think we should pray for the repose the souls of
42:20
those commit. Suicide and Father sparago's time that would have been.
42:23
Discouraged NOW i think it's very much encouraged and very.
42:27
Appropriate so, sometimes even though you, Know i'm totally opposed to,
42:34
modernism every now and, then you, know like they, say
42:37
even a stop clock's right twice a, day every now and,
42:41
then it's not a bad. Thing so, anyway, Y'ALL i
42:45
am going to try to get a sip of something
42:46
here to get this terrible tickle out of my. Throat
42:50
y'all have a great, week AND i will talk to
42:52
you next. Time