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The Late Debate | 12 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the lated Plase.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 3: with Fraile Each and Joe Hildebrand, who's filling in for
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  Speaker 3: James McPherson tonight. Here's what's coming up on the show.
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  Speaker 3: A man was yelling on a train. Then he pulled
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  Speaker 3: his trousers down and showed off his genitals. So when
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  Speaker 3: passengers complained, he swore at them, so they pinned him
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  Speaker 3: down and dragged him off the train and onto a platform.
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  Speaker 3: As you might expect, well, guess who's now being investigated
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  Speaker 3: by police for assault. The world has gone mad in
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  Speaker 3: the papers. Apparently you could just get out of speeding
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  Speaker 3: finds by putting a fake number plate on your car.
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  Speaker 3: We'll tell you a bit more about that later. And
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  Speaker 3: you might remember the Bear Grill's TV show Man versus
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  Speaker 3: Wild Well, how about Man versus Koala. We'll show you
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  Speaker 3: that exchange, shall we call it a little bit later?
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  Speaker 3: But first, the new vanguard in the climate Wars, it
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  Speaker 3: turns out, is heated swimming pools. Yes, I know you
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  Speaker 3: didn't expect me to say that one, but apparently it
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  Speaker 3: is heated swimming pools. Also sees the ABC. I think
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  Speaker 3: we may well have found the peak ABC story today
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  Speaker 3: and here it is. The headline reads as temperatures plummet
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  Speaker 3: in winter, heating Australia's public pools comes at an environmental cost.
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  Speaker 3: They found one bloke in Melbourne who's quoted in this story,
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  Speaker 3: Jim Shehn, who unsuccessfully ran for his local council on
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  Speaker 3: an environmental banner. So that probably tells you something about
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  Speaker 3: what the rest of the population think about all this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But he's terribly concerned about the fact that his local council,
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  Speaker 3: a Darabon council, is heating up it's swimming pools with
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  Speaker 3: gas boilers. So the ABC's gone off to ask the
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  Speaker 3: councils of inner City Melbourne how many of you were
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  Speaker 3: using these gas boilers and how much of your greenhouse emissions?
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  Speaker 3: Does this make harp, But it turns out for daraban Council,
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  Speaker 3: which apparently was the first council in the world to
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  Speaker 3: declare a climate emergency and come up with a climate
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  Speaker 3: emergency action plan, that's sick. Fifty percent of their greenhouse
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  Speaker 3: emissions are made up by the local heated swimming pool.
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  Speaker 3: And there are other councils apparently in Melbourne, where as
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  Speaker 3: much as fifty percent of their emissions are made up
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  Speaker 3: by these heated swimming pools. I mean, who would have
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  Speaker 3: thought this would be the thing we need to deal
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  Speaker 3: with now? But you know they'll come after every lovely
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  Speaker 3: part of life as appost I mean, you know they're suggesting.
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  Speaker 3: I think Darriman's committed to going fully electric at some
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  Speaker 3: point and all this sort of business.
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  Speaker 2: Right, just like body.
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  Speaker 3: But honestly, if a heated swimming pool is the worst
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  Speaker 3: of the troubles we have to worry about in terms
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  Speaker 3: of our emissions, you know who cares about China or
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  Speaker 3: anyone else with the rampant industry and all these things,
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  Speaker 3: I think we're doing pretty bloody well.
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  Speaker 1: If that's the worst we have, well that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: And this is such an issue that only the ABC
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  Speaker 1: would care about because absolutely no one else in the
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  Speaker 1: general public is thinking about this at all. And guess what,
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  Speaker 1: even if all of these local council pools when fully electric,
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  Speaker 1: fully renewable, it would do absolutely nothing to fix global
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  Speaker 1: climate change? Is zilch, zero zip nothing, But it would
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  Speaker 1: cost rate payers millions of dollars to refurbish all these
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  Speaker 1: pools with electric heaters instead of gas boilers. So this
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  Speaker 1: is another example of environmental lunacy that does nothing to
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  Speaker 1: actually solve any genuine problems but only slugs ordinary people
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  Speaker 1: with more costs. And in fact, three hundred people a
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  Speaker 1: year in Australia die from drowning. So maybe we should
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  Speaker 1: be saying let's build more heated swimming poles right and
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  Speaker 1: promote swimming lessons. That would save a lot more lives
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  Speaker 1: than ending climate change would in Australia, and especially ending
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  Speaker 1: heated pools.
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  Speaker 4: Well, my grandma had a wood fired hot water system.
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  Speaker 4: You actually had to chop up the wood and stick
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  Speaker 4: it in there and set fire to it. And when
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  Speaker 4: the gas supply got cut during the Kennet government and
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  Speaker 4: he was telling everyone to have colds towers, not this
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  Speaker 4: little black duck Astralia over to Grandma's house and as
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  Speaker 4: toasty as a joombug.
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  Speaker 2: But this is also I think a story.
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  Speaker 4: About gentrification and inner city values being forced on normal
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  Speaker 4: suburban people because Darrebon City Council is like the ultimate
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  Speaker 4: sort of well as you can see because it's talking
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  Speaker 4: about a climate emergency when it's a city council. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, Yarra council is the other big one in
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  Speaker 4: Melbourne comes all the really inner suburbs and Darrevin councils
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  Speaker 4: around sort of Northcote, which is the sort of hipster
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  Speaker 4: mecha of Melbourne. But the Legis Center they're talking about
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  Speaker 4: is in what outsiders would called Reservoir but locals called reservoir,
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  Speaker 4: and that is one of the There used to be
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  Speaker 4: a really sort of rough as guts, you know, batler
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  Speaker 4: kind of working class area. It's now that is now
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  Speaker 4: starting to be gentrified. And I know that because half
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  Speaker 4: my UNI friends are now living there because they can't
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  Speaker 4: afford all the hip other places. And so you know,
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  Speaker 4: this one sort of great facility that the community's got
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  Speaker 4: where you can go for a swim and everything they're fine,
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  Speaker 4: is now under attack by ideologues there. Oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: these terrible little proletarians just aren't keeping up with the
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  Speaker 4: later science. We must ensure that the leisure center is
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent renewable, and sure if we have to
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  Speaker 4: pay a little bit more for the ticket price, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure that's a cost we're prepared to bear for
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  Speaker 4: serving the planet. So that is what I reckoon is
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  Speaker 4: really like they're going after reservoir, like the Love of
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  Speaker 4: God was in the Northcote Pool.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I made it to one hundred degrees celsius.
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  Speaker 3: You'll have to start going out to Thomastown if you
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  Speaker 3: want to go and use his here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing about it as well, And this is
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  Speaker 3: what happened. Remember a few years ago, it was all
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  Speaker 3: plastic straws and terrible and plastic spoons and forks, all
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  Speaker 3: this sort of business. So state governments came in and
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  Speaker 3: said we're going to ban the plastic spoons and forks
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  Speaker 3: and straws, and everyone patted themselves on the back and
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  Speaker 3: said how fabulous they were and everything that they had
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  Speaker 3: done to save the planet. In reality, it did four
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  Speaker 3: feit of bugger all, but it made people feel better.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, actually, if you really care about the environment,
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  Speaker 3: this kind of stuff is in some way dangerous because
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  Speaker 3: it lulls people into this false sense of security that
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  Speaker 3: they've made some small adjustment in their life that is
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  Speaker 3: somehow going to make a major difference to the world.
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  Speaker 3: And the reality is that you not having a plastic
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  Speaker 3: straw in your Maca's thick shake has done bugger all
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  Speaker 3: for the world, and you not going for a swim
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  Speaker 3: in a heated pool that's heated with gas is also
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  Speaker 3: going to do bugger all for the world. But you
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  Speaker 3: get to absolve yourself of all guilt and say, well,
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  Speaker 3: I've fixed the problem, when in fact you haven't fixed
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  Speaker 3: the problem, And there are much bigger issues that if
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  Speaker 3: you're really cared about the environment, you could be talking about.
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  Speaker 3: But it don't have to anymore because I don't go
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  Speaker 3: to the heat of swimming pool.
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  Speaker 1: And even if you just really care about preserving human life,
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  Speaker 1: millions of people every year, as I've said before, die
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  Speaker 1: from using kerosene and wood to heat their homes and
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  Speaker 1: cook because of the pollution they inhale. If they had
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  Speaker 1: access to.
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  Speaker 2: Grammar Guide ninety four.
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  Speaker 1: Well there we go. Well, speaking of death, which is
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  Speaker 1: a bit morbid, what would your dying wish be? For
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  Speaker 1: many people, it would be they wish they could have
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  Speaker 1: spent more time with family or gone on some more
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  Speaker 1: holidays seeing the world. Who knows.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: For one woman, Elizabeth Beerworth, who passed away last year
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  Speaker 1: at age eighty, her dying wish to her children was trees, trees, trees.
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  Speaker 1: She wanted the Northern Beaches Council to trim the trees
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  Speaker 1: in front of her apartment. She had a deal with
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  Speaker 1: Manly Counsel where they would trim the trees so she
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  Speaker 1: didn't lose the view of the harbor from her apartment.
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  Speaker 1: When it merged with Northern Beaches Council in twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: that deal ended and over the course of the ensuing
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  Speaker 1: years she completely lost her once spectacular view from her apartment.
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  Speaker 1: Now her daughter has taken up the charge and is
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  Speaker 1: determined to get just for her mother's view. I mean, firstly,
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  Speaker 1: this is the most quintessentially Sydney. Sorry, I think I
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  Speaker 1: have ever ever heard a woman whose dying wish is
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  Speaker 1: to preserve her harve a view. I mean you look
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  Speaker 1: at that so on brand for Sydney and for a
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  Speaker 1: council to be obstinate that's it now and refuse to
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  Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I kind of get that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it too. I mean you know, how
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  Speaker 3: rude can you be as a council to say no, no,
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  Speaker 3: we simply can't come and trim the trees, right. And
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  Speaker 3: I see the work that gets done, and sometimes it's
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  Speaker 3: done by council and sometimes it's done by the local powermel.
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  Speaker 3: But they've got to trim the trees where the power
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  Speaker 3: lines go through it, right, And they come along and
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  Speaker 3: they do the absolute worst hack jobs on trees. They
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  Speaker 3: look absolutely terrible. So if they can get that done,
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  Speaker 3: surely they can come along and trim a tree so
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  Speaker 3: an old lady can have a view out of her apartment.
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  Speaker 3: And it does actually make the value of these properties,
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  Speaker 3: I mean real estate. There was a real estate agent
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  Speaker 3: quoted in this story today saying that you know, as
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  Speaker 3: much as thirty percent of the value of your property
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  Speaker 3: can be wiped away by not having that view. You know,
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  Speaker 3: people come first. And I'm not saying the trees should
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  Speaker 3: be ripped out, because trees are lovely and they're grateful
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  Speaker 3: the environment and we breathe out and they breathe it
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  Speaker 3: in and turn it back into oxygen again one of
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  Speaker 3: the great wonders of the world. But surely you can
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  Speaker 3: just do a nice thing and trim the tree so
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  Speaker 3: the old lady can have her view.
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  Speaker 4: See as a as a just a boring, moderate centrist type,
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  Speaker 4: just this just ticks all my boxes. Like it's like
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  Speaker 4: it is the ultimate kind of pragmatic resolution. We keep
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  Speaker 4: the tree, we just trim it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And again it's not like old Elizabeth Beerworth is out
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  Speaker 4: there tree spiking. She's got a beautiful view. Someone would
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  Speaker 4: say it's a view to die for, and she was
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  Speaker 4: prepared to go the distance and do it, and that
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  Speaker 4: the council deprived her of her last time, which I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, this is outrageous. And the alternative is if the
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  Speaker 1: council doesn't step up their act and trim the trees
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  Speaker 1: where appropriate, where reasonable. Given she had the view and
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  Speaker 1: then she didn't have the view do to the trees,
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  Speaker 1: she could mount a very compelling argument that it's her
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  Speaker 1: right to have the council trim them. If they don't
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  Speaker 1: do that, well, then people will resort to poisoning the trees,
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  Speaker 1: and then you'll lose whole sections of tree. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the alternative. Either you trim the trees or people will
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  Speaker 1: take matters into their own hands and start poisoning them.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's better if the council just applies some
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  Speaker 1: common sense and trims the tree, because.
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  Speaker 4: Missus Zerworth is only going to play nice for so long.
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  Speaker 4: When she turns once she chooses that dark path and
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  Speaker 4: starts to go down.
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  Speaker 3: But the only respect we're talking about common sense, we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to give the comment. So I must go
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  Speaker 3: home and have a look tonight, because out of my
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  Speaker 3: bedroom window, if the tree's not obscuring it, which it
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  Speaker 3: is at the moment, I have a lovely view of
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  Speaker 3: Darling Harbor in the city. So I must go and
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  Speaker 3: check who owns the land on which it sits and
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  Speaker 3: ask them to trim it for me. And if not,
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  Speaker 3: maybe you'll get a visit from the council about it.
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  Speaker 3: We shall see, and they'll probably say we'll do nothing
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  Speaker 3: about it. Speaking of doing things, though, Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 3: not one to take things lying down. He sees a
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  Speaker 3: problem and he wants to fix it. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 3: he's going to do in Washington, d C, which according
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  Speaker 3: to him, is in the grips of a crime crisis.
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  Speaker 3: Take a look.
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  Speaker 5: I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
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  Speaker 5: from crime, bloodshed, bedlam and squalor and worse.
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  Speaker 2: This is Liberation Day in DC. And where.
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  Speaker 3: One of my bridges were just saying in even how
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  Speaker 3: could it get worse than bedlam and squalor? Who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Now it's interesting because the crime rates in Washington, DC
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  Speaker 3: have been declining over the last couple of years. And
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  Speaker 3: the media has grabbed hold of this in the US
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  Speaker 3: today and said, ah, Donald Trump, the fascist is trying
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  Speaker 3: to take over the police. How dare he do that
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  Speaker 3: crime statistics are going down? In doing so. What they
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  Speaker 3: have completely ignored is that, yes, they have been declining
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  Speaker 3: for the last two years, but at which they now
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  Speaker 3: sit his historically very high. So they're all running around saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: no problem to deal with here. What on earth is
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump talking about? Well, what he's talking about is
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  Speaker 3: the fact that carjackings are triple what they were in
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  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Yes, they might have declined over the last years,
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  Speaker 3: but the triple what they were in twenty eighteen. In
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, there were twenty seven point three murders
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  Speaker 3: per one hundred thousand people in DC. In twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 3: it was thirteen point nine murders per one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 3: people in DC. So, even though they might be declining
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  Speaker 3: in the last two years, they're significantly higher than they
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  Speaker 3: were at least a decade ago. And that is what
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is trying to deal with. And I think
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  Speaker 3: he put it beautifully today that if at home you
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  Speaker 3: can't deal with your own issues. How can you expect
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  Speaker 3: that you're going to be able to deal with anything else.
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  Speaker 3: This is the capital, This is the front we put
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  Speaker 3: on the show to the rest of the world. If
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  Speaker 3: you can't deal with your capital, how can you deal
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  Speaker 3: with anything else? Take a look. You know.
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  Speaker 5: My father always used to tell me I had a
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  Speaker 5: wonderful father, very smart, and he used to say, son,
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  Speaker 5: when you walk into a restaurant and you see a
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  Speaker 5: dirty front door, don't go in because if the front
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  Speaker 5: door is dirty, the kitchens dirty.
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  Speaker 3: Also same thing with the capital.
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  Speaker 5: You are capitals dirty. Our whole country is dirty, and
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  Speaker 5: there are respect us.
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  Speaker 3: Beautifully put gold and good on it. He's a man
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  Speaker 3: taking action.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And there have been a number of high profile
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  Speaker 1: crimes that have been committed against embassy staff, people who
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  Speaker 1: work in the White House, for members of Congress. Back
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  Speaker 1: in May there were two people who worked at the
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  Speaker 1: Israeli embassy who were shot dead. Then in June and
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  Speaker 1: in turn at Congress, this guy can see here on
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  Speaker 1: your screen he was also shot dead. And then just
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  Speaker 1: last week, a doge staffer in the Trump administration was
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  Speaker 1: brutally beaten as part of an attempted carjacking. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that is the thing. There has been a catalyst
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  Speaker 1: here of numerous events that have hit very close to
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  Speaker 1: home for the White House. These statistics around crime, often
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  Speaker 1: they happen in low income neighborhoods, majority black areas in
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  Speaker 1: the US, poor areas, where the elites who sit in
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  Speaker 1: Washington and who run the country can go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's just a city.
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  Speaker 2: It's not happening in Georgetown.
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  Speaker 1: It's not happening to our people, to our community, to
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  Speaker 1: our family. But clearly in Washington it is, and even
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  Speaker 1: some elements of the left wing media are acknowledging it.
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  Speaker 1: And ABC News anchor Kira Phillips described her experience in Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 6: Take a look, I can tell you firsthand here in
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  Speaker 6: downtown DC where we right here around our bureau. Just
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  Speaker 6: in the past six months, you know, there were two
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  Speaker 6: people shot. One person died literally two blocks down here
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  Speaker 6: from the bureau. It was within the last two years
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  Speaker 6: that I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down
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  Speaker 6: from here. And then just this morning one of my
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  Speaker 6: co workers said her car was stolen a block away
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  Speaker 6: from the bureau. So we can talk about the numbers
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  Speaker 6: going down, but crime is happening every single day.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it's kind of sad that it takes the elites
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  Speaker 1: themselves to be hit with crime for them to actually
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  Speaker 1: care about crime that would normally be rampant in poorer areas.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a step in the right direction.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, What might the Victorian government crack down on north
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  Speaker 4: crime and band machetes. It was someone running down you know,
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  Speaker 4: not straight to Daniel Ung where I grew up, or
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  Speaker 4: you know where it be, or broad med Is but
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  Speaker 4: or even reservoir where that can get the hated swimming
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  Speaker 4: pool for a limited time only.
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  Speaker 2: Down Chapel straight Pram.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: People said, oh this is pretty stifferent. Now they've come
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  Speaker 4: to chop straight. It's gone through fat. But this is
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  Speaker 4: one of the things I actually love about Trump. He
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  Speaker 4: does some crazy stuff, obviously, but this is the same
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  Speaker 4: sort of stuff he did when he was shown a
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  Speaker 4: photo of children who had been hit by chemical weapons
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  Speaker 4: in Syria and despite having pledged, you know, no involvement
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  Speaker 4: in overseas wars, not right, let's bomb those mfs. Same
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  Speaker 4: thing when is you know Milania says actually, if you've
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  Speaker 4: seen all this bombings in you know, Ukraine, like Russia's doing.
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  Speaker 2: Some pretty bad stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, you're right, let's let's go and so's
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  Speaker 4: you know, so this if the stories are true, and
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  Speaker 4: it is a beaten dog into beaten up dose in turn,
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  Speaker 4: and he sees that and he goes, this is outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: It is I actually really do find it refreshing because,
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  Speaker 4: like that ABC anchor said, it's not you don't have
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  Speaker 4: all these z pointing here and saying, oh, I know,
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  Speaker 4: what you're seeing isn't really happening. Oh yes, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but statistically that didn't really happen if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the numbers. Actually everything's okay. But Trump just sees that
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: he's obviously very viscerally and emotionally triggered by things, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: he just goes, not right, that's it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: We're taking over. We're bringing in national guards. You guys
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: can't do it. We're taking over. It's going to be
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: We're going to make Washington great again.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And I do have to point out that, you like
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: anything Donald Trump does, there's always people coming out to
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: protests and say it's the end of the world, it's
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the end of democracy, etc. He were a few of
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: the activists carrying on about him taking over Washington, d
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: C to keep in mind, clean it up.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: No president should be waking up in the morning trying
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: to snap their fingers and take over our city.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Who city?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Who city?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Who city?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: He wants to assert more of his authority over DC,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and we are here to say he cares have it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Trump does not care about DC safety. He cares about control.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: What is exactly does he want to control. He's not
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: just like walking in and saying I'm now running Washington, DC.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: He was at monopoly on the contact.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: He's just invoked a law that allows him to take
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: control of the police to clean up crime and send
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: in federal resources in the National Guard. If you're standing
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: up and protesting against someone saying we're going to clean
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: up crime in this city, you might want to take
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a good long look in the mirror because what are
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you doing opposing cracking down on crime?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: And these leftists always claim to be on the side
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of minorities and the downtrodden, but the reality is it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: minorities and the downtrodden who are most impacted by crime.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So if you make streets safer, make cities safer, that'll
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: be great for minorities. But another lefty who's having a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: complete and utter meltdown. Is reality TV star Jennifer Welch.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: In her expletive leaden rand about Trump voters. She said,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: if you vote for Trump, you should never be able
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: to go into any Mexican, Chinese, or Indian restaurant ever. Again,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: take a look.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: I have had it from top to bottom white people
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: that triple Trump should be banned, boycotted from enjoying the
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: best thing that America has to offer, which is multi culturalism.
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: Get your fat asses out of the Mexican restaurant, Get
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: your fat asses over to cracker Barrel, because nobody wants
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: to see your smug ass, teeny weeny pink arm, big
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: gut around. Nobody wants to see that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: No one, you know nothing, screams Democrat, quite like a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: wealthy white reality TV star screaming that anyone who voted
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: for Trump is an abhorrent racist. I mean, do they
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: want to be in opposition forever? Do the Democrats have
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a death wish?
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Isn't it also all those fat prolls who go to
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: those ugly chain store diners that you know that we
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: don't want in our nice, fancy restaurants. Isn't that kind
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: of what you're saying like, what does their white have
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: to do with it? Unless she's talking about.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: That's that's in crackible. I mean, she must must think that,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: you know, the Republicans just have a monopoly on being
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: fat in the United States. But being in the United States.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: We know that, we know that, just to be put
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: my boring hat on, we know that OBEs is a
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: massive epidemic, overwhelmingly in the working class. And this is
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: again I suppose that the Democrats mean, is that's right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: this is the new American left, this is the new Democrats.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: But they actually sneer and look down their noses at
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: ordinary working people who yes, are fat, and yes go
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: to crack a barrel. And so it's just I just
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: found a really sort of revealing comment.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It is, and I think it also shows how shallow
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the assessment of many of these Democrats is of complaints
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: about migration, right, because essentially what Jennifer Wilch is saying,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: who I'd never heard of until today, But anyway.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: The star is probably Jenesis's.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I had to look it up, and she was in
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the game plan with the Dwayne the Rock Johnson in it,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: which came out in this sort of the mid two thousands.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: It was the only thing I knew of that you'd
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: ever been in, but I can't remember in it, so
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: that tells you were just how memorable she is. But
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: her analysis of it is that if you have an
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: issue with mass migration into the United States, if you
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: have an issue with a legal migration over the southern
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: border into the United States, and you think that that
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: tap ought to be turned off, that people ought to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: come into the country legally, if you believe that we
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have people brought in en mass from other parts
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: of the world, because it does break down the social
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: fabric that you shouldn't be able to participate in any
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: part of society that migrants have built. And that's wrong
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: because there are very few people who have an issue
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: with the individual migrants, and there are a lot of
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: people who have no issue with legal and controlled migration
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: at all. What they have an issue with is mass
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: migration that happens so fast that it changes the face
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: of your country before you've even got time to realize
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: what's going on, and that causes inflation and housing prices
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: to go up and all this other stuff. It's not
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: about the people. It's not about the bloke running the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Chinese restaurant. Good on him, He's come to my country
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and how to go of things. It's about what the
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: government is doing, and she completely misses that is what
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: people have.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: If you really supported multiculturalism and you wanted America to
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: be a Margaret success story, wouldn't you want these Mexican
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: and Chinese restaurants to get as many customers as they
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: possibly could? And wouldn't you actually want these supposedly racist,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: narrow minded, knuckle dragging Trump supporters to experience the joys
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: of another culture. It might even change their mind, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: they don't. But it's never about that. It's never about
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the outcomes, it's never about what will likes to change.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Is just about showing how outraged you are and how
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: morally pure you are, which reminds me of Harry and Meghan.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure reminded knuckles.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I'm not sure if Jennifer Welsh
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: ever appeared on With Love Meghan Netflix special, but apparently
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: apparently it didn't do particularly well and Prince Harry and
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Meghan Markle will continue to develop film and TV projects
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: for Netflix, but on more limited terms. The streaming giant
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: announced on Monday. The British royal and his wife have
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: worked with Netflix since twenty twenty. Workers probably a pretty
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: strong adjective there. It's up there with reality TV star
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Jennifer Welsh producing the documentary Hattery and Meghan and lifestyle
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: series with Love Meghan starring Jennifer Welsh. However, it seems
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: as though this is to be no more or.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Rather less more, because the.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Netflix shows, although Netflix never reveals the actual numbers about
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: how many people are watching it, but also their podcast Archetypes. Yes,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: it's like Archable Archie, well just terrible Archie.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: The kid has also tanked. And so Netflix is.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Collect they've got one hundred million US for the first deal,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: which is which is like one hundred and fifty eight
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty four million I think Australian dollars, right,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: And so the new deal, we don't know what the numbers.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Are one of Megan's jars of down.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: We don't know what the numbers are on the new deal.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: But it's a first look deal, which in TV terms
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: means you're locked in that if you come up with
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: an idea, you have to offer it to Netflix first,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and they have the first right of refusal, and if
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Netflix is no, they're able to go off and potentially
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: sell it to someone else. I know you said that
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Netflix hasn't revealed their numbers, but the BBC published someer
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: so I don't know where they got. But in the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: first half of twenty twenty five, the top program on
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Netflix was Adolescents, which I'm sure you remember. There was
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: a great holor blue about it in the UK and
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: people didn't really know whether it was a documentary or.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: A drama or not.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: It was actually drama, but that pulled in one hundred
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and forty five million views for the first half of
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, with Love Megan, which actually has more
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: episodes coming, did five point three million, So that tells
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: you the sort of appetite there was for it. But
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: there must be some level of profit in it for
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Netflix to do it, And to be honest, I don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: think it's the profit they potentially get out of the viewers.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's the profit they get out of if
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: they commission a show from Harry and Meghan. Netflix's name
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and we're talking about it now, Netflix's name is in
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: every single publication in the world, and they know it'll
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: get publicity. So if people come to have a look
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: at Netflix and they get there and they don't look
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: at Harry and Meghan's show, it doesn't matter because they've
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: generated publicity for themselves, so they're happy to pay for it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you also wonder what percentage of Harry and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Meghan's views on Netflix are coming from rage watchers. I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: know I watched the initial Netflix documentary series Harry and
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Meghan about their marriage and the split from the royal family,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and I just watched it because I was curious, But
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: then I was angry the rest of the time. And
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: once you get angry, you just get addicted to these shows.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So I think rage watching is a big component of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: their audience. But truly, the performance of With Love Meghan
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: was embarrassing for Meghan Markel suits the drama, the legal
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: drama she's start in before she became a royal. Out
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: rated With Love Meghan a show that was released about
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, And just in case you forgot just
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: how truly insufferable her show was, here is a little
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: clip to remind you what we're talking about.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: I've always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: surprising people with that, let them know I was really
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: thinking of them.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So the head of content and Netflix said, the Duke
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and Duchess of Sussex were influential voices whose stories resonate
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: with audiences everywhere. Oh yes, I'm feeling so I'm resonating. Wow,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the response to their works speaks for itself. Harry and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Meghan gave viewers an intimate look into their lives and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: quickly became one of our most watched documentary series. Yes,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that intimate look. That show that Megan filmed supposedly hosting
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: people in her own home was so intimate that it
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't even filmed in her own home. It was filmed
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: at a rental down the road. I don't know what
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: land the Netflix executives are living in, but resonance and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: intimate is not how I would describe.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Harry's and they're trying to blur.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: So the original documentaries was actually a big hit because
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: of the hate watching that you talked about people just going,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I can't believe how potentially these people are.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But I think with love Meghan didn't even manage to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: do that because people immediately called it out. So it
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: was a viewer who found who immediately realized that it
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: was fake, that it wasn't even their own house. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: suddenly because they've got nothing apart from the story of
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: their own incredibly stratisforic sense of self worth and entitlement
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and them leaving the Royals behind, which is that giant
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: real life kind of soap opera. They don't have anything
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: to say. No, they don't have any actual talents, they
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: don't have any skill set. You know, if you want
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: to watch someone actually cook food that you'd like to eat,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: or indeed products you can afford, you're not going to
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: go to with love Meghan or you know, American orchard with.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: A jam thing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Look, residents not a word I would use. A nauseating
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I think is probably more appropriate. And while we're talking
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: about no Hope is from the United Kingdom. There was
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: a bloat recently on the tube in East London and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: thank you, I'm glad you appreciated it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: Joe.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: He was carrying on like a lunatic and swearing and
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: yelling and all of this sort of business, and a
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: number of people on the train took issue with that,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: unsurprisingly and said, mate, what the hell's going on here?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: So he started swearing at them, and funnily enough, they
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: didn't take too kindly to that either. Maybe they felt
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: like they could have been in danger because of this
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: bloke being on the train. You wouldn't blame them for that,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: so they decided they had to take matters into their
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: own hands and take him down.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: Take a look, would you You.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Know I'm going to say, if you pull your decks
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: down on the train and you're swinging your genitals about,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: then you're probably asking to be tackled to the ground
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: and taken off the train by some passengers. Now I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: should note this bloke was arrested by the police. They've
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: since detained him under the Mental Health Act for mental
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: health reasons, and probably that is the right thing to do,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: But can you believe it? The people who tackled him
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: to the ground and got him off that train for
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the safety of the other people on the train are
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: now being investigated by police for assault. I mean, what
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: do you mean to do?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: What?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: What do you meant to do if you are on
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: a train or a bus, or in public or whatever
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and you can't immediately get police there, and you feel
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: like it's a dangerous situation, or you've got someone behaving
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: indecently by pulling down their trousers and showing their genitals off,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: you know, in front of other people and children. That's
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: not on What do you mean to do about that?
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: We'll get to that. We'll get that story in a minuature.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: You know, we're all just meant to sit around and go, oh, well,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: there's a bloke having a wonderful old time, and we'll
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: just wait for him to stop doing it. I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: this is ridiculous. Those people did the right thing. They
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: tried to do the right thing by their fellow passengers
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: by neutralizing what could have been a dangerous situation, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: for that they're paid by a police investigation that could
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: result in a risk.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you think about the circumstance they're in. We
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: heard in the video they said there were kids on
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the train. This guy is swearing at them in an
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: aggressive manner. He's got his pants pulled down. I mean,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: hardly the picture of a stable, safe person to have
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: in a public space. There are no security guards or
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: police on the train at the time, so naturally they
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: take matters into their own hand, restrain the guy and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: wait for police to arrive. The idea that The people
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: who are protecting their fellow citizens are now the ones
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: being faced with potentially a charge of assault. That's an embarrassment,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that is shameful. The guy who was exposing himself indecently
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: in public, that is a crime. He is committing, allegedly
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: committing a crime. They are simply acting with common sense
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to restrain what could be a potentially unsafe person. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: can't understand why they are the ones now being potentially
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: charged with assaults.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: It's absolutely insane. And they did it for his own
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: good too. Part of stand clear of the moving doors.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Nice things don't.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Don't get your opinion, but I mean we talked about
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: a story last night. You obviously when he did it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: We talked about this story of a bloke who had
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: a This was in North Wales, so it's not the
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: same police force, but it's indicative of what's going on
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: in the UK. He put a sign up in his
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: shop front window saying, you know, due to scumbag shop come.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: And ask you if you want to have a story
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: the shop keeper putting shoplifters might be offended by.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: So that's where we are now. If you cool shoplifter
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: scum bags and you try to tackle a bloke to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the ground, who's you know, got his wang?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: You're in trouble and if you post something on social
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: media they come around to directed because I don't get there.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: What's going on with the UK police those days? It
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: just seems absolutely.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Crazy and it's seriously undermining confidence and trust in the police,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: which is really sad for the UK. The inventors of
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: common law, the.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Inventors of the police force as well Robert Peel, the Bobby,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: the inventor the London actually invented the police force.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly and look how far they have fallen. Well, someone
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: who might be making a comeback here in Australia is
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: former South Australian leader of the Liberal Party, David Spears.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You might remember he was He disgracefully left Parliament after
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: being charged by the Adelaide Magistrate's Court with two counts
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: of supplying cocaine and was fined nine thousand dollars after
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a video emergency.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Supplying deep fake cocaine after.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: A video emerged of him sorting cocaine. Initially, he did
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: try to claim that that was actually generated, which obviously
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the court found that it was in fact real. Well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: now the Adelaide advertiser is reporting that he might be
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: making a comeback as an independent. My first thought is,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: if you can't manage your life, why do you think
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you can manage the state. And secondly, why would you
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: want to come back as an independent? Is that only
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a way? Is that just a way to screw the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Liberal Party over because you feel disgruntled. That whole idea
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of people leaving the Liberal Party or any major party
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in disgrace and then running as an independent just to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: screw over their former colleagues is very selfish.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I will note that the court didn't rule on the
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: veracity of the video, but the court obviously did convict
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: him of supplying cocaine, So you can come to your
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: own conclusions about whether that video was real and whether
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: or not he consumed anything including a white powder. Of course,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: he said it was a deep fake. But I have
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: to say though, you know, people do make mistakes, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: his mistake is on the lower end of all the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: offending you could possibly find, and you know allegedly was
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: consuming drugs himself and is convicted of supplying drugs to
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: a small number of other people. Now, sure, if you
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: want to go through and say everyone who's ever committed
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: the crime is disqualified from sitting in parliament. There's lots
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: of people who will probably be disqualified from sitting in parliament.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: But he has since gone off and worked on himself
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: and is now raising money for charity and all this
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff. Isn't he well within his rights to
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: come back and have another shot at it?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: No, I think different story. If you were young and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you did things in your youth, you then reformed and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: now you're a different person. But he was, This was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: only last year, this was recent. But it's the idea. Well, yes,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and I hope he doesn't get many votes if he
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: does come back. But the idea that you would even
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: feel entitled to our parliamentarians should be, in an ideal world,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the exemplar standard of what it means to be a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: good citizen. This is not the kind of behavior you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: want to see from leaders the New South Wales.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: But I grant you as not necessarily the gold standard
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: for a fine upstanding parliamentary behavior. But we just recently
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: had another Liberal MP, Gareth Ward, who was accused of
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: sexual assault ran while those actually after we've been disendorsed
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: by the Liberal Party ran as an independent for his
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: seat of Kayama and one and one well one possibly.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: So you know, maybe these guys aren't wrong. Maybe I mean,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the people of Blackwell decide in David Spears's case, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: just hope it means he won't have to quit insiders.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But you know, maybe it's just up to the electorate to.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Well and clearly it is. Look, look, I suspect he'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: struggle to come back as an independent, But if he
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: wants to give it a go, I say good luck
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to him. Let's see how he can go. All I
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: can say in my experience of him is, before, of
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: course all of this went, he was a very good
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: local member and was well liked in his community, and
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: was out and about and had a good name for
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: his work in the community. And people are often willing
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to look past a lot of things if they think, well,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you're on my side.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: So we shall see how this plays out. After the break,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: we'll get into the papers. If you ever wondered how
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: you can get out of a speeding fine, we've got
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: potentially a little tip. No, that's not legal advice for you.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: After this break, we'll be back, all right, let's get
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: into the paper starting with the Australian.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. The headline in the Australian is recognition that Palestinians
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: actually prefer her Mass to PM's pick. The eighty nine
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: year old Palestinian Authority leader who convinced Anthony Alminezi to
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: recognize Palestinian state, has the support of less than one
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: in six people in Gaza and the West Bank. Well
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: satisfaction with her Maas sits at nearly sixty percent across
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the occupied territories. As the coalition vowed to overturn Labour's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Middle East policy shift if it wins the next election,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister said he had faith in the PA
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and its president Mahmudabas, and insisted Harmas could be dislodged
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: from Gaza. This is what we were talking about the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: other night. Alban Easy is on the one hand insisting
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that some Palestinian state will be democratic, but then throwing
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: his lot in with the Palestinian Authority, which is notoriously
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: unpopular in the West Bank and Gaza. And this is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the fundamental problem. If you've got a population that actually
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: supports extremism, supports terrorism, don't you think they're just going
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to do exactly what they did last time Gazans were
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: given the right to vote elect Hamas, elect a terrorist group.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, why is this time going to be any different?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: The polling shows clearly Hamas is still very popular.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: It is a problem, and it is a sort of
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: catch twenty two, but it is also kind of the point.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: So the idea is, and again it's extremely fraught with
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: all sorts of potential roadblocks, but the idea is that
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: you basically sat and again this is a contradiction in terms.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: You might say, yes, we're going to hold free elections,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: but you can't vote.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: For Hamas and a mass can't run.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And so, like Joe, with all due respect, the mental
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: gymnastics you're doing here to support the Prime Minister's position
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: on this is incredible.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Well I suppose it's not incredible, but it's more just
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: the wishful thinking of And again I do not I
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: just wrote a column that was published yesterday saying that this,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: you know, and again another one the week before saying
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: how does this actually work?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: How is this anything more than just wish for thinking?
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: But the logic behind the logic behind it, what logic
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: there is or the hope behind it? Is that you
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: actually say to people, right, if you want statehood, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: cannot vote for hamas or extremist parties. And that is
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: the way that you get rid of her mass, by
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: saying you can have her mass or statehood, not both. Now,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: that won't actually happen, because chances are Palestine will never
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: be recognized because the US will veto it in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Security Council and it will never even get to a
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: UN vote. But that is the kind of pressure or
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: signal they're trying to defend.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: This.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Wishful thinking is one way to put it. I mean,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, for Heaven's sake, if they think this is
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: actually going to work, I don't even know what to say.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, completely wishful thinking. And then if the Palestinians do
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: choose her mass like they did twenty years ago, then
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Do exactly what Israel
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: has done for the last two years, try to get
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: rid of her mask. So now you're actually supporting Israel's war,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Well why don't you just say you support it now
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and come up with a better solution anyway. Another headline
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: in the Australian Tomorrow is leude claim in white knuckle
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: legal fights Mark Latham is demanding tech billionaire Richard White
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: surrender messages that allegedly prove the former Labor lead as
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: partner performed a sex act on the mogul as he
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: addressed unwitting investors on a zoom call to assure them
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: his marriage had been repaired and all indiscretions had ended,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: all but one. So listenor Zalie Burrows, acting for mister Latham,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: last month requested the Wires Tech found the handover messages
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: with Natalie Matthews that allegedly show mister White used company
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: resources to fund flight and accommodation for her. Well, not
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: much we can comment on given this.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Quite allegation allegation, allegation, allegations. But I just can't like
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: if I was getting a sex act performed on me,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: the last people I would like to be looking at.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Here's my company.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Board, you know, like that is a weird time, it
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: would have the opposite.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's not weird.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: You know, people allegedly no offense to my beloved editor
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: or Eddie.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Restid. You are not the faces I want to.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: See when you have to deal with Benny tomorrow.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You're going to love him very much. Just not enough.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the front of the herald sons of
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: our interesting little story here, fake plate fine mess police
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: are binning more than one hundred traffic fines a week,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: wrapped up by criminals using cloned and stolen number plates.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Olivia's car owners hit with the tickets for speeding in
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: red light traffic breaches are also being warned that they
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: have incurred demerit points as lawbreakers crews around on their registrations.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: So apparently, if you put the fake plates on your
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: car and you get picked up for speeding and red
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: light offenses and whatever, they send the fine off to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: whoever the plate actually belongs to. They say I never
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: committed the offense, and then the fine just gets ripped up.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know why more people aren't doing it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: That's a great life pack.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I actually saw this finally enough. I saw a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: video about this on TikTok which was going viral, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: in that video there covering their license plate and then
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: going through redline and speed cameras and not being picked up.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And so unfortunately people are catching onto this.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: It's not advice from the late debate, I should note,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: but there you go and a shocking story as well.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: On the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow. She just
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to be a mum. A five months pregnant woman
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: and her partner slain in an unimaginably horrific quote unquote
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: alleged double murder in Melbourne Southeast were excited for the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: birth of their miracle baby girl. The bodies of Athena
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Geodropoulos thirty nine and her partner Andrew fifty were found
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: inside a unit at Mount Waverley on Monday. Andrew had
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: been decapitated and his head placed on a spike. Neighbors
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: discovered the bodies and police arrested a man hours later.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: You know what on earth possesses someone allegedly to decapitate
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: another person and put their head on a spike. It
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: just beggars below.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Somehow, I don't think that right in the head.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Someone who is right in the head, though, is Dean
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Winter the well? Will he won't he?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Should? He?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Premier of Tasmania. We all know that the Tasmanians Jeremy
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Rockcliffe is the premier in the interim period. In any
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: day now they have to it has to survive and
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: no confidence motion in the Parliament that has been brought
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: by the opposition leader Labour's Dean Winter. Anyway, the story
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: is Greens won't back Winters no confidence motion.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Dean with envy, David Killick.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: And old mate of mine will be pleased to know
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: that Caleb Labour's chances of seizing power when Parliament resumes
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: next week have taken a big hit with the declaration
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: from the Greens that they have no confidence not in
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the Premier Jeremy Rockcliffe, but Dean Winter. The opposition leader
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: says he won't be compromising on his policies or principles
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: and he doesn't expect anyone else to either. Green's leader
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Rosalie Woodruff emerged from a second round of talks with
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: mister Winter on Tuesday, condemning his unwillingness to give ground.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Mister Winters in flexibility is showing no capacity to negotiate.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Had put paid to any prospect that Greens would back
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Labor into government at this stage, Doctor Woodruff said, So
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: the Greens are backing the Liberal Party. Let me just
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: repeat that for anyone at I'm the Greens are backing
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party. The Greens up backing the Liberal Party.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: It turns out we're getting rid of greyhound racing sometimes
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: does pale.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Was politically expedient, just quickly in
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the cans post head hunted. Horrifying photo emergers of Big
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: John after decapitation, A grizzly image of a crockhead in
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: the boot of a car likely destined for the black market,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: has prompted calls for a criminal investigation into the decapitation
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of the totem animal. The well known five meter crocodile
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: was known to locals as Big John. He was drowned
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: in a fishing net before being discovered very exactly.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, what's got my leg?
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Oh it's just he was did he was already dead.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: I don't see what the issues anyway. After the break
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: man versus Koala, bloke's driving along, he comes across a
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: NILEI Koala, we'll show you exactly how to winter stuff.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Is now some great entertainment coming to the AFL Grand
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Final this year. This bloke once sang the song smoke
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Weed every day, so I wonder what the smoking ceremony
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: is gonna do.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Like, yes, that's right, well Snoop Dogg is coming to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the AFL Grand Final this year. Check it out.
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: One hundred thousand fans and the best two teams and
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: your boy Big Snoop Deal double G at the MCG
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: can't wait to see you on in September for the
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: Tailstrap pregame Entertainment brought to you by Me.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So that's Snoop Dogg right there, formerly Snoop Doggie Dog
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: and Snoop Lion, now just Snoop dog with two g's.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: And he's coming to the AFL Grind Final. How exciting
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: it'll get you there, won't it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: J Yeah, I've been this excited about a performance since
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: meat Loaf.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: That was that you're never going to beat meat Loafer.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think I love this.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I love Snoop Dogg. I reckon he's not his music,
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: but just his vibe.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: He's yeah, I understand, you know. I can't say I'm
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: a great fan of Snoop Dogg. But I'll tell you what,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: if they can get him to sing up there Kaz
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: with Mike Brady, then maybe I'll be a convert to
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg. Speaking of converts to will some strange things.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: This fella is driving along the road in Queensland and
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: he sees this koala and so he thinks I'll do
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the right thing, I'll help the koala out, but it
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: didn't seemingly go so well for him. Take a look
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: on an argument with the koala, because apparently the koala
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: didn't take too kindly to him and was trying to
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: scratch him. The fellow was quoted just saying, I was
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: telling him not to scratch because I'm trying to help him,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: and the little mongrel just kept a scratching.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: I just love that the last thing that goes through
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: the Koala's mind is being told off by an old
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: man before. How's this though? This is speaking of final thoughts.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: This is a bloke who was missing for nine days.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I believe this is a guy who was in British
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Columbia near the Whistle Resort in Canada, but obviously not
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: near enough, because he was lost out in the wilderness
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: and the Mounties said they'd never seen anything like a
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: thirty nine year old Andrew Barber was survived by drinking
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: pond water and made a makeshift shelter on which he
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: had the word help written, and eventually someone managed to
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: see the shelter and managed to rescue him and bring
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: him home.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: There you go, I mean Bear Grills used to make
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: TV shows out of drinking his own urine, so I
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: suspect I just chose lovely pepy t thank you very much.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: That's in for a visit, I dust. So coming up
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: next is the reader Patty show good