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Liqui-Moly - Oils & Lubricants · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Grand Touring Motorsports started as a social group of car enthusiasts,
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but we've expanded into all sorts of motorsports disciplines, and we
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want to share our stories with you.
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Years of racing, wrenching, and motorsports experience brings
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together a top notch collection of knowledge and information
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through our podcast, Brake Fix.
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For many of us, oils and lubricants are just a bottle of brown liquid you
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put in your vehicle because that's what someone said you should do.
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Like your body, your vehicle, and especially your engine
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needs to be in good health.
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Which means understanding and choosing the right products as
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it's lifeblood.
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Founded in 1957, LiquiMoly has developed and produced oils and
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additives exclusively in Germany.
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With over 4, 000 products, they offer a wide range of automotive chemicals
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that are unique in terms of motor oils and additives, vehicle care.
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And service sprays, greases and pace, as well as adhesives and sealants.
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And with us to discuss the importance of these types of products is Rob
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Longo, regional sales manager for Liqui Moly covering Pennsylvania,
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New Jersey, and Delaware.
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So we want to welcome Rob to the show.
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Thanks for coming.
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Yeah, welcome.
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Hey guys, thanks a lot.
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I appreciate you having me on today.
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My first question for you would be, you know, how did you get into selling oils?
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Is that a lifelong dream?
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You wanted to sell oils and lubricants or?
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Uh, absolutely not.
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They're lubes and specialty products.
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Thank you very much.
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What was, was it your car?
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Are you a car enthusiast?
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First of all, you could just be a, an oil.
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Believe it or not, I am not a huge car enthusiast.
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I mean, I love seeing the cars I've seen over the last.
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Five years because I pretty much seen every Ferrari and Lamborghini
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and every cool thing in between traveling across the country.
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So I got into the business.
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I was in the heating oil and which was just selling one product.
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He
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was selling diesel
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and then I started, uh, you know, moved to a new company.
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They sold lubricants also.
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So I started to learn a little bit about lubricants and sold
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heating oil still most of the time.
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And then in 2010, I went to go work just strictly for a lubricants company.
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Uh, in Pennsylvania here.
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Pennsylvania, the Germany of the United States.
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Yeah, I get it.
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More Volkswagens here than anywhere.
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I, it is, it is true.
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You crossed the border and hit there everywhere.
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Was there for five and a half years, learned a lot about not only
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automotive, but on and off highway applications, industrial stuff.
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So just something that was a kind of cool niche kind of fit for me.
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And then, um, I was just, So fortunate to see that local Molly was hiring.
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And I, uh, didn't even know anything about them.
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So I actually saw their products at one of my customers.
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And I said, what is that stuff?
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He goes, this is the best oil I ever used.
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And I was selling another product and he would never touch it.
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And he said, He goes, I swear to God, this is the best stuff I've ever used.
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I, have no issues with this stuff.
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So I went on their website and I looked into it and then here I am five years
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later, so everything he said was true.
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That's where I, when I hear on everywhere, I guess.
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So Rob, the impetus behind this conversation is that, you know, most
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of us here at GTM are track rats and we are always in search of, you know, that.
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Next best thing, the thing that's going to make, you know, shave a 10th of a
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second off, that's going to give us that extra longevity on the engine.
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You know, we're always in search of cooler temperatures,
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especially when it comes to oils.
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So one of the things we were thinking was, you know, much to Brad's point at
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the beginning of the intro, it's because somebody told you to, and there's a lot of
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fundamentals that are left on the table.
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So I think we need to start from square one and talk about how.
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Not all oils are actually created equal.
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So let's discuss maybe some of the differences between conventional,
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mineral, synthetic, etc.
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Motor oils consist of base oils and there's five groups of base
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oils that make up motor oils.
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Group 1, 2, and 3 are what we would call conventional base oils.
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Those are the crude oils that are found from the ground.
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Group four is a synthetic base oil group.
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Four oils are PAO based.
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So those are the true synthetics.
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Those are basically crude products that are kind of torn
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apart, put back together again.
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And form a much better, more concise base oil and then group five is really
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a grouping of all other ones that can't be classified through one through four.
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So esters, glycols, so on and so the difference between these
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is then you have the refining of the conventional crude oils.
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Depending on how well they're refined, that gives you a different quality
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between group one, group two, and group three being the best of the three.
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So I'm just going to break it down to the basic between
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conventional and synthetic oils.
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I'll kind of simplify it a little bit more just to kind of keep it flowing
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and not get too overly technical.
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So mineral and conventional are one and the same.
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The main difference between conventional oil and synthetic oils is
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that
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The base oils that are used in conventional oils are from crude oil.
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Whereas the synthetic oils are manmade and manufactured to create a better, more
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stable environment for the additives that are going to be used with those base oils.
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So Rob, you touched on a couple of things there.
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You're talking about additives and the different base components
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of the oils themselves.
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What are the additives for?
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I've heard things like, you know, you hear the commercials all the
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time, makes your engine run cleaner and all these kinds of things.
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Are they detergents?
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Are they ways of changing the viscosity of the oil?
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Do they affect the temperature range of the oil?
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What are they all about?
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Yeah, so the additives that are used to create motor oils.
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Do a number of different things.
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There's detergents, there's dispersants, there's viscosity improvers,
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there's pour point additives.
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So these different additives are going to either let the oil flow
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at a colder temperature, remain more stable at a high temperature.
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They're going to help remove sludge, lacquer, varnish.
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They're going to prevent foaming.
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And there's tons of additives that do, um, you know, a lot of
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different jobs within the motor oil.
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So that is a very important piece when you're looking at which
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motor oils you do choose to use.
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So is more additives better or not necessarily?
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No, typically with most motor oil products, the base oil is
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about 80 percent of the oil and then 20 percent of the additives.
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So with all the different manufacturers, the additive packages really vary
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based on the manufacturers, the types of engines that you're putting the
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oil into, of course, what kind of conditions, you know, racing compared
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to street compared to daily driving.
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So there's a lot of factors that come into.
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How a manufacturer goes to create an oil and what audience they're
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really trying to target as well.
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But most of the time, like I said, it's probably like an 80, 20, 75,
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25 percent split between base oil.
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The obvious base oils for certain manufacturers, let's just say mobile one,
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they're going to get it from Exxon and Rotella is going to get it from shell.
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Right.
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And I'm sure BP has a, has a line of oils as well.
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Where is Liqui Moly getting its base oil from before it starts?
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Or is that kind of super secret information?
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We do not drill.
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We, we do no exploration if you will.
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So we buy the base oil and additives that are on the market.
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We choose to buy the best available of both so that we could make
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a better product as far as not necessarily against the competition.
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We make every product ourselves in Germany.
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We do not contract any of our products out to other blenders throughout the world.
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We make everything in Germany.
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So that product that you're going to get in Philadelphia is going
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to be the same one in Stuttgart.
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In Moscow and Alaska and South Africa, wherever you are, that Lysol
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off five W 40 or that Molly gen five W 30, whatever product it is.
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It all comes over from Germany to wherever it's going to finally land.
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So we take a lot of pride in making our own motor oils
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because it's quality assurance.
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You know, we know exactly what that product is going to be everywhere.
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You know, that's, that's really just an important piece of our, of our
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company that we're really proud of.
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proud of, but for us, as far as something that is going to hold up and give you the
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peace of mind and the results that you're basically looking for in an engine oil.
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So we're going to create a product that offers the most protection and
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fits your vehicle the best that we can.
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Now, the thought of putting more additives into anything
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doesn't make it a better product.
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It has to adhere to all the different specifications of the manufacturer.
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So, they may not want that much detergent in that particular oil,
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or they may not want this or that.
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their oil is where another manufacturer would say, yo, we really want that.
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That's why you see so many different oils out there to begin with, because
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there's really a lot of different moving pieces, if you will, with all the
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manufacturers and what their demands are.
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We base our products on what the manufacturer.
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So it's a great segue into my next question, spec oils, right?
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So for those of us with European cars, more specifically German cars in the last
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15 years, if not longer, there's been a lot of mandates to use specific or spec
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oils for certain engines for certain cars.
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And so they have very strict requirements on what you should
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choose and what you should use.
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So how do you know?
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Yeah, I bought a used Porsche or a Volkswagen or a Mercedes.
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How do I know?
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Where do I find this information?
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And what does that spec actually mean?
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And is there any cross compatibility and how do I find out if the Liqui
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Moly products are compatible or the right oil for those applications?
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So do you want to kind of unpack that for us a little bit?
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Yeah, sure.
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So, so first of all, Liqui Moly offers a online Pretty much every vehicle is
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covered that, that we have access to as far as all the information, which will
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break down not only the engine oils, but your gear oils, your transmission fluids
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and power, steel and fluid, for instance, and some other when you're buying a car.
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And the first thing that probably only going to have is the manual more or less.
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And it's going to tell you, okay, let's use Volkswagen for an example.
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And it's going to, you have a 2005.
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Jetta gasoline and is, let's just say it's requiring a VW 502 specification.
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So we have products that will list all the approvals that we
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have by each of the manufacturers.
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Some products are more specific to one or two applications.
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Some are multiple applications, um, that not only cover one manufacturer,
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but several manufacturers.
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So the first thing that you would do is you would just enter your car
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information and then a list of oils would come up that would be the
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appropriate oils for your vehicle.
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Secondly, you really need to be aware of what the specifications are for
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your vehicle because There's been plenty of times I've spoken, uh, you
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know, I've met you guys at BAG Fair.
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I do shows all over, you know, the Northeast every year.
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You know, the first thing they said is, oh, I just use a 5W30.
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And they don't know which kind.
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Most of the times it's the wrong kind when they do tell me what brand they're using.
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So it's very important because they're not equal, that there's not one fits
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all for any of these categories.
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So
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when you're talking about the right application for the vehicle, I'm going to
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assume that most Liqui Moly products are probably synthetics, not a conventional
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oil, like a Pennzoil or Valvoline or what a Quaker state, that kind of thing.
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So what if your vehicle was originally equipped with the conventional oil?
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Is there a conversion there to the Liqui Moly?
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Is there a Is there a reason people should be apprehensive to switch?
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The rule of thumb with converting from a conventional to a synthetic is
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really based on the age of the vehicle.
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Probably when you're talking about, you know, 70 or 1970s, 1980s, up to the
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late 80s, You should use a conventional product because of the seals and the
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gaskets that were used at that time.
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If there's any compatibility issues, then, you know, you're going to have
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issues with your vehicle, of course.
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So we basically like to say that you're probably looking at mid to late
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nineties, as far as using synthetics.
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Um, Where we feel comfortable enough that we would say that's appropriate.
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Uh, and once again, the best thing to use is our oil guide, because it will
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tell you yes or no, we do make other products other than full synthetics.
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Now we only offer a couple in the United States and, but they are
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geared towards older vehicles.
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So we make a 20 W 50, for instance, and a 15 W 40 and a 10 W 40.
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And those products are either.
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conventional mineral oils or a semi synthetic in the 1040 case.
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So, so that's really where you want to start.
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It's not something that you're automatically going to say, okay, now
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I, you know, everything's synthetic.
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I want to put it in my 85 Prada or something to that effect.
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So, you know, it's, you have to be really careful with that.
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And those oils there do offer the mineral oils and those
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applications are to be for those
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cars for sure.
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And I also heard Just to, to throw something else out there right now,
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uh, that if you do make the switch, say your car is able to run, run
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and, uh, use, uh, the synthetic.
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I've always been told it could be an old wives tale that you can't
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ever go back to conventional once you make the switch to synthetic.
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No, that's not true.
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Basically, all you have to do is flush your engine and you
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could, could go back and forth.
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There's typically no reason to do so, but you know, you should
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really stick to one or the other.
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And if it allows for synthetic synthetic's usually gonna be deep.
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The best product for the
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vehicle and to Brad's point, so for the racers that are listening, you
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know, there's a lot of rules to with building new motors, fresh engine.
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So, you know, if you're having it done professionally, you
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know, listen to your builder.
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They're going to tell you what to use.
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I went through this myself with a, with a professionally built engine
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where, you know, I had to start with break in for a very short period
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of time, then go to conventional.
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Then I had to use diesel.
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Then I had to go, like you had to build up to like a fully ester based synthetic.
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You could not go from day one all the way to that cycle oil.
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So there's something to be said about those transitions
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and building those steps.
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A lot of it has to do with seeding the rings and like, to your point,
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new seals and all that kind of stuff.
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So, you know, talk to different people about that.
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And obviously, you know, Liqui Moly is going to have different
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products along the way.
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You might not start with a Liqui Moly product, you know, you're breaking oil
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Or whatever it might be, but eventually you will build up to those higher end
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oils that are going to be better for your engine, you know, in the long run,
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especially in a track type of application.
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But I think you hit on something really important though, and it's kind of innate.
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In the language of oils, we're always shouting out these 10 W and five W and
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zero and this and that, all these numbers.
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And I think confusion is always wrapped around that.
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What does that actually mean?
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And why have the oil numbers and ratings?
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change so much in the last five years?
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Yeah, it's a great question, and we'll start with basically
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what those numbers mean.
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So we'll use a five W 30 for an example.
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So the first number five W that's what they used to call the winter weight.
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So that's the viscosity of the oil when it's cold.
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So you want a thinner oil when it's cold, when you start the engine.
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So it reaches the furthest lubrication point as quickly as possible.
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The second number, the 30 is when the temperature, when the engine
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is at operating temperatures.
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And you want the oil to be thick enough.
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So it goes from low to high.
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So think five as being water and maybe 30 as being honey.
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It will start to thicken.
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And then when it's thicker at operating temperatures, it's going to create
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what we call boundary lubrication.
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That's going to keep those parts from sliding against each other.
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It provides a wedge between all the moving parts.
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Throughout the engine.
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And it's interesting you bring that up because that's chemically the
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opposite for any of the foodies out there that are listening of what you
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would experience in your kitchen.
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I was just about to say, that's the exact opposite of what I thought it was doing.
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Right.
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Because you know, when you're in the kitchen and you, you get a bottle
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of olive oil or canola or Wesson or whatever, you know, corn oil, they all
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have different viscosities because as you heat them up, they get thinner.
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So it's kind of interesting that as you heat up motor
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oil, it actually thickens up.
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Yeah, right, right.
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So, right, you know, it's, um, you know, the most important thing is just to get
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that oil moving as quickly as possible.
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And then at the operating temperatures to protect the engine as best as
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possible.
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And you know what else adds a layer of confusion for anybody
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that's listening to this.
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I'm sure now they're going, wait, the oil thickens as heatens, but my oil pressure
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gauge is high when it's cold and it's low.
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When it's hot.
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So it's all kind of down.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So, you know, that's really basically how the, uh, that number system works
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to your, um, question about seeing the numbers getting smaller and smaller.
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Zero W 20 way is really the main oil of these days.
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And it's really come around to the European models now as well.
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So that is just based on they're building Smaller engines that are putting out more
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power, more heat, the oil needs to flow.
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The tolerances are much tighter now.
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I know everyone that I talked to thinks, Oh my God, it's crazy.
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What's it going to be next?
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Water, you know, it's getting so thin going back to our, you know, our first
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conversation about, you know, base oils and additives that they are so well made
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these days that they can really hold up to pretty much anything that you throw
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at.
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Um, well, I've got two questions off of this conversation.
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First one is what viscosity would you say is like the most common?
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Like I, when I look around and seeing people change their
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oil, everybody's buying 5w30.
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It seems like that's like the most common viscosity.
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And then my next question is if you're in a pinch, you're stranded,
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you need oil somewhere, If they say they don't have what your, what
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your manufacturer recommends, which way do you go one way or the other?
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If they have something like, how would you base what your emergency oil is?
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If you don't have what the actual manufacturer spec is.
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So over the last few years, I would say 5W 30 and 0W 20 are probably the top two
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viscosities that we see out in the market.
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If you're talking European, there's still quite a bit of 5W 40 that's there and is,
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and is approved for, for use right now.
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So the question that you ask Brad is, is not a yes or no or simple answer.
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Because let's use an example.
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Let's use a, a more modern car a a 2015 VW Jet.
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Okay?
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Engine doesn't matter.
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It's calling for a 5 0 2 oil spec in the world of Volkswagen, zero W 30, a
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five W, 30 A zero W 40, and a five W 40.
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Can all carry that same approval.
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I know that's not going to help the layman out there much if they're trying
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to decide what they're looking for, but that's why it's really important to know
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what oil is for your vehicle, because you obviously don't want to cause damage.
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Yeah, I
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don't want to say in a pinch do whatever you need to do,
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obviously, instead of a specific.
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Oh, well, if you've got a 5w30 and they don't have it go to a 520 or
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something, would the recommendation be to go like a thinner oil or a thicker?
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So to go with what Brad's saying, uh, not to steal, you know, Rob's thunder
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here, but I've always heard that you based it on the second number.
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So if you can find something else, that's a 30.
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It doesn't matter if it's a zero or a five, you're still looking at the
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card operating temperature more than at cold temperature in most cases.
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So go with a 30, go with something that matches the second
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number as much as possible.
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And if you're going to go and correct me if I'm wrong, Rob, if you can't find, you
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go up, you go thicker instead of thinner.
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Correct.
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Don't go lower.
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Yeah, you never go on.
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You're not getting proper lubrication.
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Yeah, because then you could really, you could get some, you could really
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do some damage to your engine.
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Thicker is going to be fine.
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And if it's something like you can't find a European oil for that, then,
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then you can use a 5W 30 in a pinch that's designed for Asian and American.
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So just to, just to clarify, because we, I think we've touched
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on this, but just for our audience.
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The smaller the number, basically the thinner the oil.
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Let's just put it that way to keep it simple, correct?
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So some of the older numbers are starting five, you know, 15 W 50, and
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like all the, you're starting to be harder and harder to find those numbers.
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So in those cases, to your point, go back, talk to your builder, look at the
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motor, see what the seals can tolerate, go to thinner oils, but again, we can
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mix and match and things like that.
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You're right.
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You're seeing a lot of zeros out there.
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I happen to use zero W 50.
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40 myself seems to be the best range for some of the older
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Volkswagens, especially the VR sixes.
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But the question is with all these oils and all these weights, you know, we
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understand there's different additives.
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We understand there's different flow rates and things like that.
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Does it change the heat tolerance of the oil?
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That was the other wives tales about the weight is a thicker oil can withstand
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more heat, you know, things like that.
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Is that true?
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Or is that just a myth?
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So to my knowledge, it's always been a myth.
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It goes into the design of the products themselves.
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So if that particular oil has an additive package, there's technical information
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as far as what kind of temperature ranges oils have and things like that.
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But typically it's just going to be the way that the products are made now,
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that those additives in the base oil, it doesn't matter as far as that goes.
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It's really more of a myth.
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And then there's, then there's the other one, right?
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You guys out there, you know who you are when I'm about to say what I'm about to
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say, there's those guys that are like, I put Rotella and everything doesn't
22:59
matter what it is, what year it is.
23:01
I just buy 5 gallons of Rotella from tractor supply.
23:04
And that's what I put in the car.
23:05
And I cringe every time I hear that.
23:08
Whatever.
23:10
I'm a little bit more specific, you know, in my applications, but that's a lot
23:15
of times people don't realize either.
23:17
You know, there's the blue Rotel on the white Rotel and that's gas versus diesel.
23:21
And a lot of people will throw diesel oil in a gas motor and you hear people
23:26
fight back and forth about that.
23:27
The advantages of diesel oil over over gas oil, you know, all these kinds of things.
23:31
And so let's kind of dispel some of those.
23:34
Myths as well, but also talk about, you know, the good, the bad, the
23:37
indifferent of just using, okay, I just buy five gallons of the same oil and I
23:41
use the same thing all over the place.
23:43
Yeah.
23:43
And you know, it's a common question when I'm at a shop or I'm at an event,
23:48
the main differences between a gas engine oil and a diesel engine oil
23:53
is something called the SAPS level.
23:55
It's sulfated ash phosphorus and sulfur and gasoline engines.
24:01
Like more saps than diesel engines, particularly now the clean burning
24:06
diesel engines with the DPF filters.
24:09
So that's why it's extremely important to know which product you're using.
24:13
I don't recommend a domestic diesel.
24:16
Oil in a European car, because it does not have any approvals.
24:21
It's not recommended for those applications.
24:24
And you could have issues, you know, if we're talking about racing and
24:27
there's no catalytic converter, or, you know, we understand that.
24:31
And we had that conversation quite a bit, but I I'm speaking to the daily
24:35
driver, as much as I am speaking to someone that's on the track.
24:38
And the bottom line is that when those additive packages are
24:41
incorrect for your car, that's when you're going to have issues with.
24:46
More sludge, more lacquer, more varnish, loss of performance.
24:50
And then, like I said, it's, it's going to hit you in the, in the exhaust
24:53
as well, because that is something that is not supposed to be in there.
24:57
And that car was not made to take that product, you know,
25:00
that particular type of oil.
25:02
So extremely important, you know, years and years ago, it was much
25:06
more lenient as far as, okay, you could throw something in everything.
25:11
And that was.
25:11
really the way it was, but over the last 20 years, particularly, you
25:16
need to be exact with what your car requires because you can prematurely
25:22
damage your engine at night.
25:25
So try to save you some money and, you know, try to look out for it
25:29
because that's something that it's a huge expense and, and, you know,
25:32
oil in the grand scheme of things.
25:34
It's not that expensive, no matter which brand you're
25:38
loyal to or which one you buy.
25:40
I mean, we know we love you to buy ours.
25:41
We know it's a little bit expensive, but the point of it is that we're making
25:45
products because we know that they are approved by the manufacturers for those
25:50
applications.
25:50
Absolutely.
25:51
And I think a lot of people don't realize that there's spec oil for
25:54
diesels as well, especially Europeans.
25:56
I mean, I happen to have been through a bunch myself.
25:58
I've got a Jeep.
25:59
That's got a VM Motori diesel in it.
26:02
So that the diesel grand Cherokee, that's not a Benz motor, but
26:05
the Benz CRDs are out there.
26:06
Volkswagen's have specific diesel oils, the Audi's all that kind of stuff.
26:09
The Porsche's, you know, anybody that's running a European diesel, you got to make
26:13
sure you pay attention to that spec other things I've learned about these oils along
26:17
the way is they're very high in zinc.
26:20
Right.
26:20
And so, like I mentioned before in a race motor, I used a European spec
26:25
diesel oil in my race motor because it was a benefit to the rings to
26:29
seat them on a brand new engine.
26:31
But you only kept it in there for like 500 miles.
26:33
You're doing like 10 oil changes in a thousand miles, you know,
26:36
type of deal, but it makes all the difference in the world.
26:38
So, but the other thing too was I had to run the car hard.
26:41
And I also noticed something that is true even in my Jeep is that Diesel oils have
26:47
a very wide and varying heat range and they do not hold up well on the track.
26:53
So if you're a track rat and you're buying five gallons of Rotella, be
26:56
careful with that because it's very easy to hit 300 degrees because that diesel
27:00
oil does not do well with high heat.
27:03
The same is true.
27:03
I experimented with oils that fit my VM Motori V6 turbo diesel.
27:08
And I found one that dropped me almost 20 degrees under load, you know, towing
27:12
up a hill, going to Watkins Glen.
27:14
And I was like, this is the one, this is the one that's going to work.
27:16
Because again, I'm trying to save the engine, you know, from all that
27:19
extra stress and everything I'm doing.
27:21
So I think it's, to your point, it's super important to look into that stuff.
27:24
Some of it might be trial and error, you know, maybe Liqui Moly checks the boxes.
27:29
Maybe it doesn't, you know, but you gotta have, you know, Data to support
27:33
what you're doing, not just kind of blindly saying, Oh, I'm just going
27:35
to put in whatever and it'll work.
27:37
Right.
27:38
Right.
27:38
Correct.
27:39
And to your point on that also is a 15 W 40 is a mineral oil.
27:44
Most of the time to this day, they're going to break down
27:47
faster than a synthetic one.
27:48
They're not made for heat.
27:50
Like you said, you know, so they're, they're, they're going to break down.
27:54
They're going to oxidize.
27:55
And then you're going to have those issues, which you're talking about.
27:59
And now in a track environment, you know, you're warming up your car.
28:03
You're not just leaving the driveway to go right onto the track.
28:06
So, but in normal life, those oils will break down sooner because they're
28:12
not very well made to take the cold.
28:15
And they're not very well made to take the heat.
28:17
It's very important and you should definitely look into
28:21
products that have a long history.
28:23
You know, our products have been around since 1957.
28:26
So we've had a lot of R& D.
28:29
They've been on the track.
28:30
Our products are the same products that we use for the daily driver as the track.
28:34
And that's really important to us.
28:35
You know, we don't make a racing oil because our regular oil is our racing oil.
28:40
It's that good and it's holed up and we do dinos and we do a lot of testing with it.
28:44
So invest in your oil.
28:45
I think that's the most important message here.
28:47
Don't.
28:48
Don't just go with whatever anyone said to you.
28:51
It's okay to break some trends down.
28:57
I think you brought up two, two kind of fun questions based on that.
29:00
Would you pull the drain plug on your motor and run your liquid,
29:04
you know, your engine on just whatever's left of liquid Molly in it.
29:07
Is that advisable in any case?
29:09
I would not advise anyone to do that,
29:11
but if I was going to do it, I would probably add our MOS2 additive first
29:17
with the oil, because that will give you a little bit extra protection.
29:21
You know, it's a funny thing.
29:22
When I first started, we actually had, we still have a campaign call.
29:25
I, I use it and that could be for a consumer, a shop doesn't matter.
29:30
We had a, we had a gentleman out in California that did an
29:33
oil change on a Honda Civic and.
29:36
He went something to, I want to say about five or 600 miles and realized
29:41
he'd never put any oil in the car.
29:42
He only put the MOS to add it and he had no issues whatsoever,
29:47
which was just that's amazing.
29:49
And, um, I mean, we do not recommend that do not do that at home.
29:54
And that was, that was really a jab at those commercials from
29:57
like the early 2000s, if you remember what I'm talking about.
30:00
But the other thing is, you know, in that same kind of, you know,
30:02
comedic vein, I've seen a lot on Instagram and I don't remember if
30:06
it's Liquimal and you can correct me.
30:08
Are you guys the ones showing a green oil or is that just photoshopped?
30:13
No, that's Molly Jen.
30:14
Yeah, that's our Molly Jen line of oils.
30:17
And that contains a fluorescent dye, which is great for leak
30:21
detection, believe it or not.
30:23
So when you first put it in the vehicle, you know, you use a black
30:26
light and you could detect it.
30:28
physical leaks from the vehicle.
30:29
It doesn't last very, very long.
30:32
So, you know, you need to do it right when you, when you put the oil in.
30:35
The Molygen oil is, is a very good product.
30:38
It contains an additive already in it, an anti friction additive.
30:42
We've had a lot of success with that, you know, on the performance side.
30:45
People really like it.
30:46
Uh, and we make viscosities from zero 20 up to five W 50.
30:50
And that's a very good product.
30:52
Yeah, for sure.
30:53
For me, that would
30:53
be super confusing if my power steering pump was leaking because power
30:57
steering fluid I use is dark green.
30:59
So I'm like, wait a minute.
31:02
Well, even, even to your point there, even some of the, you know, some
31:06
of the manufacturers themselves, the automotive manufacturers.
31:10
Audi Volkswagen, for instance, one of their oils has to have a green dye.
31:14
It's something that we are starting to see a little bit more
31:17
of the, I guess, the OEMs, if you want to say, the manufacturers
31:20
themselves using some coloring.
31:22
And it makes sense too, I guess.
31:24
Which brings up a really great point.
31:25
Are there any cars from the factory coming with Liqui Moly on board?
31:29
No, we do, we do not, um, we don't have a, uh, a factory fill program.
31:34
If you will, our products can be used for factory fill.
31:37
If need be most of the times, most of the manufacturers have
31:40
several oil companies that they'll use depending on where they are.
31:43
So we don't write it anywhere on the cap or anything like that.
31:47
We're, we're not a, an official global partner.
31:51
We do have the approval.
31:52
So that's something that, you know, we like just to focus more on.
31:56
Building a better product and making sure that we have the best approved
32:01
product that we could come out with.
32:02
And I think that's really, you know, over the last five years,
32:05
I've been with the company.
32:06
You know, the feedback I get is the reason I love my job.
32:09
I could tell you everything until I'm blue in the face, but it's,
32:13
it's the people I meet at bag fair or impact up at Pocono Raceway.
32:18
Waterfest shops.
32:20
I go into going to pick up my dry cleaning.
32:23
I had a guy like I love your products, you know, and I said, thank you.
32:27
You know, I mean, that's that is the, um,
32:30
as we wrap up this segment.
32:31
I have 1 more question before we go into the next 1.
32:33
you know, we talked about additives earlier on and you
32:36
mentioned street and track.
32:38
So are there specific additives, you know, since you said you have kind of
32:42
based one base oil for everything, you know, there isn't a race oil versus the
32:45
street oil, it is the one stop shop.
32:48
Are there certain additives you would recommend for street use
32:51
over track use or vice versa?
32:53
So we'll talk about engine oil additives.
32:55
Of course.
32:55
I mean, like we, we make 4, 000 products as you has mentioned in the opener.
33:00
So for our engine oil additives, we have the MOS two anti friction.
33:05
Engine oil treatment, and we have serotech.
33:07
The MOS2 is the moly and lipo moly.
33:10
It's what started the company.
33:12
It originally started as an ad.
33:13
Any of you chemists, it's molybdenum disulfide.
33:17
It's very similar to graphite, if you will.
33:19
So if you've ever felt graphite, it's very slick and slippery, but
33:22
it stays in place for a very long
33:24
time.
33:24
That product could be used in any engine, from basically any timeframe.
33:28
It could be a gas, it could be diesel.
33:30
To get to your point as far as what's better for daily driving
33:34
or track or whatever the case is, it really depends on what you're
33:38
doing and the age of the vehicle.
33:39
So for track purposes, if you're doing drag racing, we typically recommend
33:44
MOS2 because you're going to be changing the oil out more frequently.
33:48
If you're using it for a couple of days and you're going to drain
33:51
it out, it's just, all you have to do is just, you know, replenish it
33:54
the next time you change your oil.
33:56
Cause it will all fall out when you do your oil change.
33:58
Now, Ceratec is a little bit different technology.
34:01
It's a ceramic based technology.
34:03
So that will actually adhere to all the, it will plate itself to all
34:07
the metal throughout the engine.
34:09
It takes heat and pressure for that to set up properly, which
34:12
will take a few hundred miles.
34:14
For you to use that in a drag racing scenario, for instance, it's not going
34:19
to do you any good because it's just.
34:21
Not going to have time to set up.
34:22
But it's like three sessions in road racing.
34:25
So you're good to go there.
34:26
You're good to all day.
34:27
Yeah.
34:28
Right.
34:28
So the beauty of that product is that that plating onto the metal
34:32
will last up to 30, 000 miles.
34:34
Now I know we don't keep files, but 30, 000 or every fourth oil changes
34:39
our rule of thumb as far as using Sarah tech, and that does a great job.
34:44
And now I'm going to kind of go back to what you're trying,
34:47
what you're asking a little bit.
34:48
Because the additives really do help in keeping your engine temperatures lower,
34:53
gaining a slight bit of horsepower.
34:55
When you keep things from sliding against each other, you're creating
34:58
less heat, lower operating temperatures.
35:01
So you're going to get some noticeable differences when you use some
35:06
of the additives with our oils.
35:08
A lot of times the oils do a great job on their own, but.
35:11
The additives with the oil is making it just a credible product.
35:15
So let's unpack that just for a second.
35:17
So you would not make sero tech and M.
35:19
O.
35:19
S.
35:19
two, right?
35:20
It's one.
35:20
You would not.
35:21
Okay.
35:22
The reason why you wouldn't because they're competing for the same
35:26
amount of space within the engine.
35:28
So if you already had MOS2 in there, the Ceratec would have nothing to cling on to,
35:33
and you would have spent a good amount of money for nothing, you know, and you don't
35:38
want to, you don't want to combine them.
35:41
If you haven't made the switch to Liqui Moly yet, can you still use
35:45
MOS2 or Ceratec with a competing oil?
35:47
Well, it's still working.
35:48
Yeah.
35:49
Uh, those products are completely safe with any conventional or
35:53
synthetic oils that are on the market.
35:55
So you're absolutely can use the additives alone and not have to use the engine oils.
36:01
We obviously think it's the ultimate package if you use our stuff
36:04
altogether, but there's no reason why you should not be able to use, uh,
36:09
you know, you're, you're more than able to use our additives in any.
36:13
Now in the advent of more and more engines, like you said, smaller engines
36:17
making more horsepower, that's basically because of more and more turbochargers
36:21
being introduced since the early 2000s, especially on street cars, which is
36:26
the preferred additive, or is there yet another additive specifically
36:29
for forced induction vehicles that help with some of the heat that we
36:33
end up with with a turbocharger?
36:35
Well, the MOS two and the, uh, Sarah tech are going to do a really good job
36:40
of getting with throughout all of the oil lines and throughout the entire system.
36:44
So that's going to be your, pretty much your first step as far as
36:48
really trying to help as far as protecting it as best as you can from
36:53
the heat that you're dealing with.
36:54
And I
36:54
bring that up.
36:55
I bring that up because a lot of people do not realize.
36:57
You know, they bought a car with the turbo and they're like, wow, instant
37:00
power and all these kinds of things.
37:02
They are more often than not oil cooled and sometimes hybrid oil
37:05
and water cooled, depending on the manufacturer, the turbo and whatnot.
37:09
So again, this all leads in that conversation is, you know, learning
37:11
a little bit more about your, your engine bay and what's going
37:14
on in there, but oil is vital.
37:16
It is literally the lifeblood of your motor.
37:18
So it's important to have the right products in there and protecting that.
37:21
Again, kind of going back, would you prefer one over
37:24
the other for a turbo motor?
37:25
Would it be the Sarotech over?
37:27
The modern vehicles, we really like using Sarotech and your everyday
37:32
application, or like I had said, your more endurance track racing, things
37:36
like that, because it's really going to have the time to set up properly.
37:39
You're not.
37:40
ever going to be wrong with using the MOS2 additive as well.
37:44
It somewhat comes down to, you know, how often you change your oil and
37:48
some of these other things that, you know, that are individual.
37:51
So if you're changing your oil every 3000 miles, even though you don't
37:55
need to do that for a daily driver, you know, oil drain intervals were
37:59
10, 000 miles or whatever they are.
38:01
They've been tested on turbos over and over.
38:04
So we have.
38:05
That's on all of our product information sheets, that's perfectly
38:08
safe for those applications.
38:10
And they're both going to do an excellent job.
38:12
You just Saratec with that plating and in the other areas of the engine really
38:16
does provide that extra protection where the MOS2 does a nice, well,
38:21
general, you know, coverage as far as comparing the two with each other.
38:25
So how often does Liqui Moly recommend changing oil on a
38:29
vehicle 5, 000, 10, 000 more?
38:33
I think the old adage was.
38:35
You know, with conventional oils back in the day, it was every 3, 000 miles.
38:38
You had to change your oil.
38:39
Obviously times are different now with technology and everything.
38:42
So our oils are designed to meet the manufacturer's recommended oil trade.
38:50
So we have an approved product for a particular Mercedes model, and it says
38:55
that the 10, 000 mile oil change that oil is designed to go 10, 000 miles.
39:01
Now oil changes, you know, to an individual, you know, if you do
39:05
a more or less, that's up to you.
39:07
You also have to take in consideration what kind of driving you're doing
39:11
now, you know, there's severe There's moderate and there's light driving.
39:16
Highway miles is light driving.
39:18
It's not a lot of wear on the engine.
39:20
Stop and go in New York City is severe.
39:23
Your manual will tell you, okay, 10, 000 for light, 70, all right, these are
39:28
examples of course, so about 10, 75, 800, and then maybe 5, 000 for severe.
39:34
Pretty much standard across most of the manufacturer's
39:37
information that I've come across.
39:38
So what you could do if you want to.
39:41
Test your boundaries is oil analysis, oil test.
39:46
We have oil testing, but it has to go all the way back to Germany.
39:49
So I think the best way is our friends at Blackstone that everyone uses.
39:53
I mean, there are neutral companies, so you just send your, you send your stuff
39:58
there and you get a great result back.
40:00
Or, I mean, my company car is a 2015 Honda CRV.
40:05
the 10, 000 mile oil change interval.
40:08
I have 172, 000 miles on it.
40:10
I sent my oil for analysis at 10, 000 and they said I could go to
40:15
12, 000 with a Liqui Moly product.
40:17
It's our AA020 for Asian and American vehicles.
40:22
But
40:22
for those that haven't done an oil test before, what's the expectation?
40:25
What are they going to get back from Blackstone as a result?
40:28
What's it going to tell them?
40:29
You know, first of all, they put a nice paragraph on top and they kind of explain,
40:33
you know, what's going on, you know, so they'll say, okay, everything looks good.
40:37
You know, there might be a little bit of a fuel dilution or there might be
40:40
some little minor things here and there, but otherwise everything looks good.
40:44
They're going to break down what the measurements below
40:46
that paragraph will say.
40:48
And that's going to tell you.
40:49
Basically what your additive package still is within the engine
40:53
oil, it's going to tell you that.
40:56
And then it's also going to see if there's wear metals that are being produced.
40:59
Okay.
41:00
So if there's a lot of iron, they're going to say, okay, you have an issue here.
41:04
They might tell you to shorten your oil change interval, or, you know, maybe
41:08
recommend using another product or whatever the case is, but they have the
41:12
basic data of, of the products already.
41:15
Right.
41:15
So they're just measuring it against what the basis and what the normal
41:19
ranges should be for those products.
41:20
So they're going to say, okay, well this, your calcium levels fall within play.
41:25
They're just going to break down presence of different chemicals and metals
41:30
and tell you if something is really detrimental or they're going to tell you,
41:35
you know, everything looks pretty good.
41:36
Keep going.
41:37
And if you want to try to push it, that's fine.
41:39
Or, or you're right there.
41:41
Don't do it.
41:41
I did this stay at 10, 000, whatever the case is.
41:44
I've also heard there's early indicators for potential blown head gasket.
41:47
They'll tell you if there's water in the oil, you know, stuff like that.
41:50
Other things.
41:50
Yeah, right.
41:51
Glycol, you know, other things, you know, coolant shows up
41:55
and everything else, right?
41:56
Those are the things that you're going to say, okay, well.
41:59
That should not be especially the metals, you know, cause then you're having
42:03
where if you're have high iron levels or aluminum or something to that effect,
42:08
they're going to say, okay, well, this is probably coming from this area of
42:11
the engine and you should take a look at it, you know, just keep that in mind.
42:15
So we've been talking about engine oil, but what about like gear oils
42:19
and transmission oil and transmission fluids and stuff like that?
42:23
There are a lot of cars that are being shipped with no drain plugs.
42:25
We had a member in the club asking questions about this just recently.
42:30
How can he install a drain plug in his transmission because there isn't
42:33
one and he wants to change the fluid.
42:35
Is there really such a thing as a lifetime fluid?
42:39
It's a great question.
42:41
The manufacturers have deemed that that way.
42:44
I think it's critically important to change those fluids when
42:49
they're supposed to be changed out.
42:50
So I, if there's access in some way, if you could siphon it from the, from
42:56
somewhere, then that would be, you know, my, my recommendation is changing it out.
43:02
So, uh, a good mechanic will find a way what I've heard, but yeah, I think
43:06
we, I think we came to the solution of using a, a reverse pump or
43:11
what was the transfer transfer
43:13
transfer pump, right?
43:14
Yeah.
43:14
So, you know, you know, those are things that, you know, they need to be
43:18
changed out just like any other fluid needs to be changed out in the vehicle.
43:22
They collect debris and they are.
43:24
They have a function.
43:25
They have a, they have a similar function to motor oils in a lot of ways.
43:29
They're really there to protect the mechanisms that are working.
43:33
You know, those are additive packages and gear oils and transmission fluids also.
43:37
And if those, those are depleted, then they're not doing their job.
43:40
So by all means, you know, there should be a schedule for that.
43:44
So one other question to go along with this.
43:46
I've also heard as Important as the oil is in the testing that we talked about
43:51
are the oil filters themselves because they too are not all created equal.
43:55
So first question, does Liqui Moly sell their own brand of oil filters?
44:00
And if not, is there a recommended partner, you know, oil filter that would
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go well with the oil that you guys supply?
44:07
We do not.
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Make filters.
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I would only recommend those really quality filters that you're already
44:13
aware of without mentioning names.
44:16
So there you go.
44:17
So hot take their spend more get better products or nothing.
44:23
Nothing that starts with an F and is orange.
44:25
Is that what you're saying?
44:27
Can I confirm or
44:29
deny?
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No, no, but I buy those 50 cent clearance oil filters.
44:35
What are you talking about?
44:37
Right next to the gum,
44:37
right?
44:38
Yeah,
44:39
they're basically just solo cups.
44:41
Yeah, but you know, in all seriousness, if you're using a filter that.
44:47
I think they've dialed back some of the old drain intervals, you
44:50
know, BMW is doing 15, 000 miles.
44:53
I want, you know, you have to have a good quality filter.
44:56
You can't buy the cheapest thing.
44:58
You get what you pay for.
45:00
That's what it comes down to a lot of the time.
45:02
So absolutely anything with oil, you don't want to cheap out on.
45:07
With service intervals getting longer and longer, it makes sense to buy better
45:10
quality products that will last 10, 12, 15, 20, 000 miles per service change,
45:16
you know, so it's kind of interesting.
45:18
Yeah.
45:18
Your, your, your filter, your oil and your filter are much
45:22
cheaper than a brand new motor.
45:23
A
45:24
hundred percent.
45:24
That's my argument every time.
45:27
And you also have to go back to the old.
45:30
Miles or months too, because I learned this on my wife's hybrid where the
45:35
electric does a lot of the work.
45:37
The motor is kind of sitting, you know, it's turning the oil pump
45:40
circulating because the motor is turning with the hybrid or whatever,
45:43
but the motor is not actually running.
45:44
It'll come up and say, it's been a matter of time, whether
45:47
you've done the miles or not.
45:48
It's time to get the oil out.
45:49
Right.
45:50
So it's something to keep an eye on.
45:51
And if your car sits for a long time, you should also consider a time interval.
45:57
The longer the car sits because water will get absorbed from, you know, barometric
46:01
pressure changes and humidity changes and weather and all that kind of stuff.
46:04
You know, other things will change.
46:05
The oil will sludge up just sitting there, heat and cold, you
46:08
know, without the motor running.
46:09
So something else to consider when you're doing your service intervals,
46:12
but, you know, let's get off of that.
46:13
Let's switch gears yet again.
46:15
We'll put it in third this time.
46:17
And let's talk about how Liqui Moly products and offerings differ and
46:22
compete against some of the well known brands that we probably use today.
46:27
And maybe, you know, give us your pitch.
46:28
Why should we switch to Liqui Moly?
46:30
I can't name names.
46:31
So I'll just say.
46:32
To be fair, that goes back to the base oils and the additives.
46:36
As far as what packages you buy, I used to use like ketchup as an example,
46:42
but that's subjective because you might like the taste of hunts better
46:46
than Heinz or something like that.
46:48
So I like to, even though most people would say Heinz, but there will
46:52
be always the one guy that would, especially at a, would say, oh, I,
46:56
you know, I buy the store brand.
46:57
I don't care.
46:58
But, but, but my point on that is really that, um, the way I like to really
47:03
compare products would be diamonds because diamonds are What they are,
47:09
you know, I don't know if you have like the jewelry exchange out there
47:12
or you've seen those commercials and you can get a two carat diamond for 9.
47:17
99.
47:17
Yeah.
47:18
And
47:18
you know, a two carat diamond is probably 20, 000.
47:23
So the point of that being is that the differences in diamonds are
47:27
always the clarity, the cut, you know, we're not going to throw the
47:31
carrots in there, but it's always.
47:33
how clear it is, no blemishes, those kinds of things.
47:36
And I, that's really how we try to, that's how I really wanted
47:39
to say how we make our oil.
47:40
We, we try to just use the best.
47:44
And that's how I try to compare it as far as having something of
47:48
a high quality compared to like There's oil all over the place.
47:51
There is differences between all the brands.
47:55
Once again, the quality is of the utmost importance and we make every
48:01
product ourselves and we do buy the best base oil and additive packages
48:06
that are available on the market.
48:08
To ensure that you're getting the best protection for your vehicle.
48:12
It's important to really take care of it.
48:15
We've done a lot of research and development as far as to see
48:19
how the oil holds up in various applications, whether it's on the
48:24
track, whether it's a dyno, whether it's a daily driver, doesn't matter.
48:28
It's something that we take a tremendous amount of pride in making, trying to
48:33
make the best product that's out there.
48:35
So it's something that.
48:36
We have gotten tremendous feedback, whether it's a shop, whether it's a do
48:42
it yourself person, you know, a DIY, you know, they feel the difference
48:47
that that's the thing I hear the most.
48:49
They really feel the difference between using our products and a competitor.
48:54
They feel it running smoother.
48:57
They're hearing less noises.
49:00
You know, they're the valve train is quieter timing belts, not
49:04
making as much noise as it used to.
49:07
So The benefits of using better products is that it does actually help to improve
49:12
some of those situations that do come up.
49:15
And, and then like I said, it's really something that you have
49:17
to, you have to try yourself.
49:19
It's too big of an investment not to bend a little bit more to ensure
49:24
that you're going to have your car running the way it wants to be.
49:28
I mean, that's, that's how I like to see it.
49:30
We know as petrol heads is that we become very brand loyal, right?
49:34
And when you, when you marry yourself to a brand, you kind of go all in.
49:39
That's why I've had five Volkswagens.
49:43
But, but to, to that point, I mean, you know, you start buying oil, then you
49:46
want the filters, then you want the brake fluid, then you want the transmission
49:49
fluid and you want the grease and, you know, and you start wearing the polos
49:53
and the t shirts and the hats and the stickers and it's all downhill from there.
49:56
It's turtles all the way down.
49:57
So.
49:59
That kind of begs the question of the 4, 000 products that Liqui Moly offers.
50:03
Do they offer stuff for motorcycles, boats, small engines,
50:06
lawnmowers, two strokes, maybe the occasional Mazda rotary.
50:10
I mean, does it, is it really a one stop shop?
50:13
It's a one stop shop.
50:15
We have in the United States, we've launched our marine
50:19
segment, our power sports segment.
50:21
We have, we have American and Asian diesel gasoline.
50:26
We have every, every segment pretty much covered in the States here.
50:30
And of those 4, 000 products, we don't have that many of those.
50:35
I mean, that's, that's what's in Germany, but just based on what we
50:39
have here, I mean, We have the majority of the European market covered.
50:43
Of course, you're going to the track and you're dragging your car in a, with
50:48
a power stroke or a Cummins diesel.
50:51
We have an oil for, or if you're going to use your, uh, ATV, we
50:55
have oils for all these things.
50:56
So
50:56
do you have oils for the dreaded rotaries?
51:02
That's two stroke oil.
51:03
What are you talking about?
51:04
It needs to be something special to keep those seals from blowing out.
51:09
So our 10 W 40 all day, I've been told.
51:12
So,
51:13
so it brings up a, Rob, you bring up a really great point, right?
51:16
You're going to the track or maybe you're going on autocross or the
51:19
drag strip, or even if you're, you're going to work, right.
51:21
And you run Liqui Moly.
51:23
Something goes pear shaped.
51:24
You realize you're a quart low for some reason.
51:26
Maybe your motor eats oil.
51:27
It's not Liqui Moly's fault, but you know, you're at the track.
51:30
Something happens.
51:31
You can't just run out to the local parts store oftentimes
51:34
and get Liqui Moly products.
51:36
I've seen competing products.
51:37
I mean, obviously you can pick up, you know, the Havilands, the Valvolines,
51:40
the mobile ones, the even Pentason sometimes that, you know, Pep Boys, if
51:44
you, if you find one nearby and sometimes Napol carry that kind of stuff, right.
51:48
You know, this is just past experience, but I don't come
51:50
across Liqui Moly very often.
51:53
If we want, if somebody wants to make the switch, how do you go
51:56
about finding the products are all 4, 000 products available?
51:59
Can we look at a catalog?
52:00
Is there an online store?
52:02
You know, is there a dealership network we have to go through?
52:05
I mean, obviously we have a relationship with FCP euro and we know that
52:09
they've got liquid plastered all over their cars and everything up there.
52:12
And that's great.
52:13
So how do we go about, you know, getting the products if
52:17
we want to make the switch?
52:18
Yeah, absolutely.
52:19
So the, the, the best way to do that is to go onto our website.
52:22
We have a oil locator.
52:24
Put your zip code in and you choose how many miles you are, you know, you want
52:28
radius as far as what you're looking for.
52:31
And we have it by shop and by retail.
52:34
So it'll bring up a list of retailers in the area.
52:37
It'll also bring up any shops that are omo shops that they use our products.
52:43
So if you're not handy with a wrench like myself.
52:46
But you want to find, you want to find someone that is using a, you want to
52:52
find a good shop that's using lithium moly products, then that's the easiest
52:56
thing to do, you know, of course the internet's a big world, FCP of course
53:00
is, uh, you know, we have many e commerce companies that are selling our products.
53:07
And if there's anyone, any shops that are listening to this today, there's
53:11
also wholesalers that sell them.
53:13
The great thing over the last five years.
53:15
Since I've been with Wickle Molly is that the products have
53:19
become much easier to find.
53:20
Sometimes you just have to ask, you may not see it on the shelf, but that doesn't
53:25
mean they don't have it in the back.
53:26
And that's a lot of times how you'll find it.
53:29
But yeah, but your first step, definitely go onto our site and
53:32
put your zip code in and then a whole list of shops and retailers.
53:37
What are the requirements to become a retailer of Liqui Moly?
53:42
You can always give us a call.
53:43
We'll be happy to talk to anyone that's interested in
53:45
distributing Liqui Moly products.
53:47
You know, that's the best way to start.
53:49
We'll put together something that might work for you and go from there.
53:53
I mean, I'm, I'm ready to start.
53:55
Chopping for some Liqui Moly.
53:57
I know
53:57
I was thinking the same thing.
53:58
I was like, I got to get some Saratex stuff.
54:00
Cause I'm still at that stage with the new motor where I haven't
54:03
switched to my final oil yet.
54:05
I'm actually, between you and me, I'm running 0W40 mobile one,
54:08
because that's the last stage before I can go to Esther oil.
54:11
I had to run that for like basically a season.
54:13
And last season sucked and the car stayed parked and I ran the other one instead.
54:17
So, but yeah, so, and that's where I come to an impasse, right?
54:21
Because I was a mold tool, you know, 300 V for the longest time, but a high
54:25
horsepower turbo motor, it's the one that gave me the lowest oil temperatures.
54:29
And I was like, ah, that's what I'm going to use.
54:31
It's expensive as all get out.
54:32
It's like.
54:33
I don't know, 40 a liter or something insane, which is still
54:36
cheaper than the brake fluid I use, but you know, Hey, whatever.
54:41
So Rob, you know, like we said at the top of this conversation, we're always
54:45
looking for that extra 10th of a second.
54:46
We're always looking for those extra couple degrees, you know, something
54:49
give us that competitive edge when we're out there, whether it be at the drag
54:53
strip, whether it be road racing, time trials, or even really on the street
54:57
to give us those extra couple of years.
54:59
out of a car that we wouldn't normally expect.
55:01
So, you know, I think this has been a really great conversation.
55:04
I think our listeners have probably learned a lot along the way about
55:06
the different types of oils and what they should be looking out for.
55:09
And I think we've dispelled some myths along with all that.
55:12
So, you know, everybody, if you're interested in learning more about
55:15
LiquiMoly, maybe this is the first time you're hearing about the brand, be
55:19
sure to check out their website, www.
55:22
liquid.
55:22
com.
55:23
So that's L I Q U I dash Molly M O L Y.
55:28
com.
55:29
So liquid dash molly.
55:31
com and check them out on Facebook or Instagram at liquid molly.
55:36
usa.
55:37
canada, or check out our follow on article for a bunch of information
55:42
about the brand, about the products and how to get in contact with
55:45
Rob, if you have more questions,
55:47
like you guys were saying, follow us on Instagram and Facebook and.
55:52
We post everywhere that we're going to be.
55:54
There's 30 of us out in the country.
55:56
And we're usually at some event on a weekend when it's nice out.
56:00
Stop by and say hello to all of us.
56:01
We love talking to, you know, our fans.
56:04
And, uh.
56:04
So Rob, can't thank you enough for coming on the show.
56:07
This has been fantastic.
56:08
Very informative and an absolute pleasure.
56:11
Guys, thanks so much for having me.
56:13
It was a truly amazing experience.
56:16
I hope to see everyone at some events and by the tracks, uh, trackside this year.
56:20
So.
56:20
Let's get out there.
56:21
Absolutely.
56:22
And we'd love to have you at one of our events.
56:23
Maybe come out and talk to people about Liqui Moly right there at the track.
56:27
So any
56:27
day you just tell me I'll be there.
56:29
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