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Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody. It's Jeff here. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: let you know we've recorded this podcast episode on two
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Speaker 1: separate days this week. Our interview this week was recorded
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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, November fifth, twenty twenty four. Our regular part
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Speaker 1: of the show, the first part of the show with
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Speaker 1: Eric and myself was recorded on Wednesday, November sixth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So by the time you hear this, some
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Speaker 1: things may have changed here or there, but we hope
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Speaker 1: you enjoy the show. Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table
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Speaker 1: podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
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Speaker 1: in the world, eleven and a half years strong. We
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Speaker 1: got a great show come on your way this week.
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Speaker 1: Lots of Eagles talk. We're gonna getting some Phillies offseason
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Speaker 1: talk as well. We're gonna we're gonna just really touch
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Speaker 1: really quick on the college football playoff that I feel
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Speaker 1: like is right around the corner. We've got the holidays
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Speaker 1: coming up, and we're also gonna get into Philadelphia seventy
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Speaker 1: six ers, especially what we're thrown down on the table
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Speaker 1: this week. We've got our good friend of the show,
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Speaker 1: Troy ban Camp. He's a contributor over at Fan Side
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Speaker 1: it's the Sixercents dot Com. He's gonna be joining us
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Speaker 1: for a discussion about this team this awful, awful early
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Speaker 1: seventy six er season. But we're gonna get into some
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Speaker 1: storylines there with Troy for sure. I am Jeff Warren.
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Speaker 1: I'm here with my good buddy Eric Leonard. I gotta
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Speaker 1: be very honest with you, Eric, I had no idea
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Speaker 1: how my voice was gonna sound great as we hit
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Speaker 1: the record button and I did the intro because I
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Speaker 1: haven't had the best day here on November six, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. It has not been a good day, my friend.
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Speaker 1: But I am glad we have this podcast and we're
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Speaker 1: able to do this together today, my friend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trucked by the amount of time we've
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Speaker 2: been doing the show. You always start off at the
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Speaker 2: top of the show with you know how how long
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Speaker 2: we've been doing this? And yeah, it's we're going to
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Speaker 2: keep doing this even as the world burns around us.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in light of in light of what happened,
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Speaker 1: in light of what happened this past week here, just
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Speaker 1: a few days ago, with the many elections within our
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Speaker 1: nation here, Yes, as many of you know, I am
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Speaker 1: heavily involved in in the in the uh governmental process
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Speaker 1: and just our government here Northampton County where I live,
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Speaker 1: and we were under a microscope as one of the
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Speaker 1: counties here in Pennsylvania that however, Northampton County goes, Pennsylvania
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Speaker 1: goes in terms of the presidency. And we know how
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Speaker 1: that happened, we know how that worked. But end of
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Speaker 1: the day, man, it's yes, I've had a numb it's
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Speaker 1: been a numb feeling throughout the day it's been. It's
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Speaker 1: been just a it's been low. I'm not gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: laughing here, kind of just trying to find my words, Eric,
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Speaker 1: but it's been a low day for me. I've invested
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Speaker 1: twenty five years in this profession. And I say profession
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Speaker 1: because I went to penn State with you. I was
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Speaker 1: a political science major. I knew what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do with my life in terms of public service, in
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Speaker 1: terms of government service, believe it or not, since I
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Speaker 1: was a teenager. And I'm so grateful and honored that
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Speaker 1: I get to do what I do. That there that
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Speaker 1: there were folks that voted me into public office a
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Speaker 1: number of times, four times in fact, and it is
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Speaker 1: it is the greatest honor of my life. But when
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Speaker 1: when certain things don't go your way electorally in terms
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Speaker 1: of people you support, you know, you just it's tough sometimes,
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Speaker 1: it really is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially you know, I know it's sighed you're
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Speaker 2: on and to look at the other side and what
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Speaker 2: happened leading up to this and what a grotesque human
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Speaker 2: being that they voted for. And I'll be on. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm a pessimist when it comes to this country.
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Speaker 3: We've had conversations, yep, I've known you, and you know
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Speaker 3: I I I was struck by how many people are
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Speaker 3: online or on TV saying like this is unbelievable, and
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is completely believable, like.
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Speaker 2: That this country has been heading in that direction, getting dumber,
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Speaker 2: getting more hate filled, and it just took the right
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Speaker 2: person to to stoke the flame, the fire under their
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Speaker 2: asses and just immobilize them. And the man has no policies.
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Speaker 2: He's going to rip apart healthcare, He's going to rip
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Speaker 2: apart a Borsche, whatever you can think of. Right that,
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Speaker 2: he has really no platform. He runs on hate and
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Speaker 2: and fear, and that that will always win as as
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Speaker 2: a country gets dumber and dumber. And you know that
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Speaker 2: That's what struck me so much, is like I wasn't
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Speaker 2: surprised because I think we've been heading this direction for
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Speaker 2: a long time. Not you and I, but there's just
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Speaker 2: a slight majority of this country that just that they
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Speaker 2: feed right into that, And it was like a perfect
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Speaker 2: pairing of.
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Speaker 1: This was just bound to happen. I Like, at the
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Speaker 1: start of the night, I was like, I think she
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Speaker 1: has to do.
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Speaker 2: Then within finantes, I'm like, this ain't happening. I just
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Speaker 2: got to feel like this is this is going to
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Speaker 2: go southah. And it wasn't because of the candidates or
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Speaker 2: even like or like John King's freaking hitting the freaking
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Speaker 2: screen with fifty fingers going at the same time, it
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Speaker 2: was more like, oh, man, I know where I live,
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Speaker 2: and I think we're I think that Pennsylvania is like
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Speaker 2: a microcosm of the whole country, Like it's a red
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Speaker 2: and blue in the outside, but there's just enough red
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Speaker 2: in the middle, or I'm sorry, just enough red in
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Speaker 2: those blue areas in the middle this this state that
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Speaker 2: are filled with hatred. They keep it a little more quiet,
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Speaker 2: and they voted, and a lot of people didn't show
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Speaker 2: up for the other candidates.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say a lot of people didn't
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Speaker 1: show up that showed up in twenty twenty. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: say that right now, and that's an indictment of the
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Speaker 1: folks that I align with, quite frankly, And I could
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Speaker 1: be critical of my political party quite frankly. And that's
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Speaker 1: how I'm feeling right now. You know, I have my values,
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Speaker 1: I have my belief system. I fight for certain things
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Speaker 1: as a public official, as somebody who was elected to
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Speaker 1: do a job. I had a campaign platform. Folks said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, I went this guy there. But I have
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Speaker 1: no qualms at all about criticizing my party for a
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Speaker 1: lack of consistent, concise and really a message that folks
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Speaker 1: really wanted to gravitate towards. I don't have a problem
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Speaker 1: doing that right now. But what you've said, also, Eric
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Speaker 1: is absolutely true too, It really is.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: I also want to say this too, really quick, really quick,
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Speaker 1: just before just before you know, I could be critical
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Speaker 1: of my party here too, But I think what's really
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Speaker 1: mind boggling for me and I don't know how we
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Speaker 1: as a country and for you folks listening and hopefully
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Speaker 1: it haven't tuned out yet are turned us off yet?
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Speaker 1: But how millions of Americans live in this information bubble,
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Speaker 1: and they live in their own information bubbles and believe
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Speaker 1: things that are manifestly and demonstrably untrue. How do we
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Speaker 1: get out of that? How do we break that cycle?
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if we do, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if we ever will. Quite frankly, there are folks who
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Speaker 1: have consistently said, have consistently said, we've made crime is
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Speaker 1: just out of control in this country. Crime is crazy,
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Speaker 1: crime is nuts. I saw ads here in Northampton County.
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Speaker 1: You probably saw them in central Pennsylvania two eric. Crime
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Speaker 1: is out of control. We need that change, We need change, folks.
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Speaker 1: I was at a budget meeting tonight. We had our
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Speaker 1: corrections folks come into our council chambers tonight to talk
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Speaker 1: about our prison here in Northampton County. We had four
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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety in mates, folks, the least amount of
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Speaker 1: inmates that we have had in years. Crime is down,
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Speaker 1: Crime is down, and we did a terrible job. We
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Speaker 1: did a terrible job refuting the lies that crime is
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Speaker 1: just rampant, out of control. So I just wanted to
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Speaker 1: throw that out there and to say that when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the misinformation age, that we are in. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure how we get out of it. I think
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Speaker 1: we just have to keep telling the truth, whether it's
8:20
Speaker 1: in the world of sports, Philly sports, which we're going
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Speaker 1: to certainly do, or whether it's uh, you know, the
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Speaker 1: political world, things happening in our neighborhoods, communities. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how we get out of it. I think we
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Speaker 1: just got to keep telling the truth.
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Speaker 2: Buddy, Listen, man, it's just gonna get worse with the
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Speaker 2: misinformation stuff because people are getting people are getting dumber,
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Speaker 2: and tech is getting better. Yeah, and deep AI fakes
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Speaker 2: that will fool my mom.
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Speaker 1: Sure she's in her.
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Speaker 2: Seventies, but we're going to get to a point where
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Speaker 2: they're going to full forty year olds and don't and
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Speaker 2: they don't understand what they're seeing or they believe whatever
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Speaker 2: they see. I could go on a rant, a socialist
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Speaker 2: rant of like, because it come home to rus. We've
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Speaker 2: been doing so much shit across the world and this
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Speaker 2: is what But I just can't believe him and what's
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Speaker 2: gonna happen next? And I again, I'm not surprised at all.
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Speaker 2: It's it's been heading this direction. And honestly, if you
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Speaker 2: don't like what we're saying you can go to the show,
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Speaker 2: and exactly.
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Speaker 1: We've certainly lost listeners over the years. It started with
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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick's situation, whoa.
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Speaker 2: Yes by Felicia, don't give a ship?
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Speaker 1: Yes exactly. If you're still with us, we're got we
9:34
Speaker 1: got Philly Sports Talk to get into as well. Are
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Speaker 1: you are we? Are we done talking? Are we done
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Speaker 1: talking about this for now? Should we? Maybe we just
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Speaker 1: do the whole show.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of podcasts that are way smarter than
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Speaker 2: us to deal with this ship very true, very true. Going,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something really dumb, and I'm gonna I
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Speaker 2: can't get banned from the show like I do give
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Speaker 2: from Twitter? Right, Yeah, we should probably just yeah, all right.
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Speaker 1: Well let's get into some Eagles talk here. This team, folks,
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Speaker 1: they're six and two. Sometimes it doesn't feel like they are.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna give our thoughts in just a minute
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Speaker 1: on where this team is at heading into Week ten
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Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys. The Philadelphia Eagles did not make
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Speaker 1: any trades before the trade deadline this past Tuesday, and
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Speaker 1: it was the first time that this has happened. I
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Speaker 1: can't even remember how long Eric I cannot remember how
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Speaker 1: long it's been since Howie Roseman has not made a trade,
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Speaker 1: and it leads me to believe that there is a
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Speaker 1: lot of confidence with this Eagles team from the front
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Speaker 1: office in the talent that they have, both on offense,
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Speaker 1: both on defense. We know the defense has been playing
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Speaker 1: so much better since the bye week, but the fact
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Speaker 1: of the matter is they have seven picks going into
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Speaker 1: next season. Again, they got us a stacked and stacked
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Speaker 1: offensive roster, and even though the defensive line needs some help.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about it before. We are hoping that Howie
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Speaker 1: Roseman might get some pass rush help. Defender coming off
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Speaker 1: the edge decided not two. Are we okay? Basically with
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Speaker 1: how we not bringing in a pass rusher here at
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Speaker 1: the trade deadline? Eric, I mean, they seem to be
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Speaker 1: happy with what they have. Who knows, maybe they tried
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Speaker 1: to get somebody and couldn't get them. Hasn't been reported yet,
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Speaker 1: But where the defense is at right now heading into
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Speaker 1: Week ten, I'm actually not too upset about it. I'm
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Speaker 1: not too upset about how he not being able to
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Speaker 1: acquire some sort of pass rusher before the trade deadline.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? I don't think the market was there.
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Speaker 2: I think the lines, as far as the lines were
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Speaker 2: always the top team did probably get a defensive lineman
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Speaker 2: with a Hutchinson going out. I'm not sure what else
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Speaker 2: was really on the market, honestly, And this wasn't a
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Speaker 2: this was not a sweepstakes trade deadline, so I'm actually
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Speaker 2: okay with how he keeping the picks. If you didn't
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Speaker 2: see anything, I mean, the Cowboys went out and got
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Mingo.
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Speaker 1: From the Panthers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's fans were up in arms, and I
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Speaker 2: think Deontay what's his face was traded to the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't much of a trade deadline, so I why
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Speaker 2: waste a pick just to make a move for a
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Speaker 2: player that may not even help you. I agree they
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Speaker 2: do need defensive end help in pass rush, but what's like,
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Speaker 2: don't don't waste don't waste her time?
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Speaker 1: So I get it. Yeah, and don't waste the seven
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Speaker 1: draft picks you have going into next season at this point,
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Speaker 1: don't don't waste them because, like I said, they do
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Speaker 1: have a stacked offense, and they've got some really good
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Speaker 1: defensive players, young defensive players that are going to continue
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Speaker 1: to grow in my opinion, and and.
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Speaker 2: The added bonus of the NFC is not real strong,
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Speaker 2: right right, there's some top teams and then it's kind
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Speaker 2: of like it's kind of garbage.
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Speaker 1: After that, absolutely well, we did get some listener feedback
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Speaker 1: from one of our longtime listeners, Francis here. He was like, hey, guys,
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Speaker 1: regarding the birds, what is the difference between our two
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Speaker 1: tight ends that we're seeing more involvement with Calcatara than
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Speaker 1: Win before Goddard's injury. And then he also ended up saying,
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Speaker 1: turning to the sixers, what are your thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: embiide Hayes locker room assault can't touch others, and Joel
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Speaker 1: needs to be accountable for that. But Marcus Hayes as
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Speaker 1: a hack writer, only goes for shock headlines and should
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Speaker 1: face some sort of public discipline either from the Inquirer
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Speaker 1: the team should actually pull his credentials. Finally, if you're
13:17
Speaker 1: really looking for an alternative episode segment, I'd be pumped
13:20
Speaker 1: for a trip down memory lane to visit the past
13:23
Speaker 1: show intro outro music. You know what, I may put
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Speaker 1: some old outro music just for the sake of it,
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Speaker 1: and just because you shot off this email, Francis, so
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Speaker 1: thanks so much for sending us the email. Philadelphia Sports
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Speaker 1: Table at gmail dot com, folks, that's where you can
13:37
Speaker 1: shoot us off an email on any topic you'd love
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Speaker 1: us to touch on and get into. We're definitely gonna
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Speaker 1: get into the sixers talk for sure, so stick around
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Speaker 1: for that. But it's interesting that Francis Eric asked about
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Speaker 1: the tight end situation in Philadelphia because quite very frankly,
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Speaker 1: we put up a tweet yesterday saying Eagles starting tight
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Speaker 1: ends after nine weeks in twenty twenty four. Grant Calcatara,
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Speaker 1: he started six games, He's got seventeen receptions, two hundred
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Speaker 1: and sixteen yards twelve point seven yards per reception. Dallas
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Speaker 1: Goddard five games, started, twenty four receptions, three hundred and
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Speaker 1: one yards, twelve point five yards per reception, and no
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Speaker 1: Eagles tight end has caught a touchdown this season, So
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Speaker 1: both Dallas Goddard and Grant Calcatara at this point have again.
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Speaker 1: Cal Katara with twelve point seven yards per reception, got
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Speaker 1: it with twelve point five yards per reception. It's amazing
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Speaker 1: how similar these guys are. It's like, you know what
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Speaker 1: I think we're thinking. Dallas Goddard this whole time, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of these, one of these quote top tight ends
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We talked about the during the offseason
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Speaker 1: where he was he was a concern, we were gonna
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Speaker 1: be keeping our eyes on him. And yes he's been injured,
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Speaker 1: but his numbers and Grant cal Katara's numbers they stack
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Speaker 1: up pretty evenly with each other. You know what, I
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Speaker 1: don't think Dallas Goddard maybe any thing special necessarily anymore
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Speaker 1: with this team, and that pains me, Eric.
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Speaker 2: But did we talk about this a couple of weeks
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Speaker 2: ago where it's just like, is Dallas Goddard good and
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Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurst's not getting the ball? Or is it
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Speaker 2: He's not good, He's not as good as we think
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Speaker 2: he is. Right, maybe that's the case, Maybe it is,
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Speaker 2: Maybe he's not specially he has not had a special
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Speaker 2: season in a while, besides some of the kind of
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Speaker 2: off season hyph for him. This happens all the time, though,
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Speaker 2: like team like not not a Travis Kelsey thing, but like,
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Speaker 2: there's so many good tight ends in the league now.
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Speaker 2: I remember back in the day when there were like four.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like forty team, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Like, like, what's the Gonzales going to Gonzales?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was like and the remember Jeremy Shockey,
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Speaker 1: he was there for a while.
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Speaker 2: He was pretty good, but but it was it was
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Speaker 2: always it was like six or seven in the league.
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Speaker 2: Now there's like there's tons of them and they're backups.
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Speaker 2: They're just as good. Maybe that's just a position now,
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Speaker 2: that's like and every tight end's like six five to
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Speaker 2: forty now. Yes, So I think I think this is
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Speaker 2: kind of how the NFL is going. It seems to
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Speaker 2: be following a pattern. And maybe Dallas scottis is not
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Speaker 2: that good. I'm just gonna stay it out loud.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe he's not. I think it's a very
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Speaker 1: topical conversation for us to continue to have. Dallas Goddard
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Speaker 1: is going to be playing slated to play here in
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Speaker 1: upcoming Week ten against the Dallas Cowboys, So let's get
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Speaker 1: into that. You know what our thoughts are with where
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Speaker 1: the Eagles are at heading into this Cowboys matchup where
16:27
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not going to be playing. You can
16:30
Speaker 1: go back in our podcast feed our Opposition Territory Show
16:33
Speaker 1: with r. J Ochoa from Blogging Theboys dot Com and
16:37
Speaker 1: we had a great conversation in discussion about Dak Prescott
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Speaker 1: and just where the Cowboys team is at right now.
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Speaker 1: The Eagle should win this game. And in terms of
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Speaker 1: power rankings, where this Eagles team is at right now.
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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com has them seventh in the league, ESPN
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Speaker 1: has them ninth, USA Today has them tenth, Yahoo has
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Speaker 1: them sixth, CBS has them ninth, and Pro Football Talk
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Speaker 1: has them Seventh's base Philadelphia Eagles are a top ten
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Speaker 1: power ranked team in the NFL according to these very
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Speaker 1: immedia sources. Against six and two on the season, this
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Speaker 1: past week against the Jaguars, this team won in spite
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Speaker 1: of the coach. And we've seen this a number of
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Speaker 1: times eric this season so far, our friend Josh Schuster,
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Speaker 1: who was doing the postgame show with us, that's what
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Speaker 1: we're talking about. These players are that good where they
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Speaker 1: are winning despite the coach coaching decisions. Nick Sirianni had
17:29
Speaker 1: a terrible game. He had a terrible game, and the
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Speaker 1: players won in spite of him. That's where this team
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Speaker 1: is at. They're six and two. It's good, but I
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Speaker 1: don't know how far this team is going to be
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Speaker 1: able to go with Nick Sirianni making type of decisions
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Speaker 1: he makes in game at times, it's really frustrating.
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Speaker 2: Has a coach ever been fired after a win? I
17:48
Speaker 2: honestly felt like it was on the table. He was
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Speaker 2: so atrocious on Sunday to even let that dog shit
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Speaker 2: Jaguars team back in the game. Yes, who's being coached,
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Speaker 2: by the way by an even worse coach. I mean,
18:01
Speaker 2: I love Dougie p Yes, I think we might want
18:05
Speaker 2: to rethink the statue.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, we got to keep it. I
18:09
Speaker 1: don't know, man, oh you got to keep it. I
18:10
Speaker 1: don't know that look different eras call for different types
18:13
Speaker 1: of know, you know, memorializing. I think and at all,
18:17
Speaker 1: we got to keep that one. Okay, maybe maybe we.
18:19
Speaker 2: Stick it up like a Port Richmond or something. Let's
18:21
Speaker 2: get it out of downtown, like, okay, you get it
18:24
Speaker 2: another part of Philly. He's a try. I can't believe
18:27
Speaker 2: he's still the coach. I know, I can't believe we're
18:30
Speaker 2: actually going up against Mike McCarthy. I know he should
18:34
Speaker 2: have been fired already. I'm not saying I'm not saying
18:38
Speaker 2: he should have been fired after a winseran it, but
18:40
Speaker 2: like I can't believe how bad he was. They are
18:42
Speaker 2: six and too in spite of his buffoonery, say that
18:46
Speaker 2: they absolutely should win this game. I think the Cowboys
18:48
Speaker 2: have I'm looking at the depth try now. They've got
18:51
Speaker 2: four of their best defensive players on as questionable without
18:55
Speaker 2: their starting quarterback. I think what Cooper Rush is probably
18:58
Speaker 2: starting for the Yes. Yeah, if you can't win that game,
19:03
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure what to tell you, Like,
19:04
Speaker 2: this is the exact position you should be, Like, you
19:08
Speaker 2: should annihilate this team. This should be like a thirty
19:11
Speaker 2: one to ten victory. Yeah, but with our coach who
19:16
Speaker 2: leaves he leaves points on the field, Like I.
19:21
Speaker 1: Can't even describe.
19:22
Speaker 2: I can't believe some of the decisions he made, like
19:25
Speaker 2: going for two, I just kick the fucking pat Yes, yes, not,
19:32
Speaker 2: just just play the normal game plan and you should
19:36
Speaker 2: win by like twenty twenty twenty points on Sunday.
19:38
Speaker 1: Exactly we should have had should how many more points
19:41
Speaker 1: should we have had? Like six eight points something like that.
19:44
Speaker 1: We should have had more points where we shouldn't have
19:46
Speaker 1: been worrying about the Jacksonville Jaguars at the link too.
19:50
Speaker 1: By the way, thanks Sirianni thank you anymore for the
19:55
Speaker 1: Eagles before we get into some Phillies offseason talk.
19:57
Speaker 2: Now, like I said, the good thing is the NFC
19:59
Speaker 2: is kind of shit. I mean, yeah, the command that comes.
20:02
Speaker 2: We gotta worry about Detroit. We already beat the Packers,
20:06
Speaker 2: which is a great tiebreaker for us, and.
20:08
Speaker 1: They're not playing good football. They're not at all.
20:10
Speaker 2: Not at all, and too bad we lost the Falcons team.
20:14
Speaker 2: But it's pretty it's pretty meek across the board.
20:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all right, let us know what you're thinking
20:21
Speaker 1: about this Eagles team and the ups and downs that
20:24
Speaker 1: we're all feeling with them. Philadelphia Sports Table at gmail
20:26
Speaker 1: dot com. We'd love to read your email here on
20:28
Speaker 1: the show and respond to it like we did with Francis.
20:29
Speaker 1: And so let's move on to the Philadelphia Phillies. They're
20:34
Speaker 1: off season. Just wanted to get into a couple storylines
20:37
Speaker 1: here because and look, it happened more than a few
20:40
Speaker 1: days ago at this point, but the Philadelphia Phillies have
20:44
Speaker 1: traded Scott Kingery if you haven't heard, to the Angels.
20:48
Speaker 1: After ten seasons in the organizations. The Phillies ended up
20:52
Speaker 1: receiving some cash considerations in return. Kingery last played for
20:57
Speaker 1: the Phillies in twenty twenty two. You just got in
21:00
Speaker 1: one game during that season in the infield. And he
21:04
Speaker 1: had been with Triple A Lehigh Valley since then. Made
21:07
Speaker 1: a lot of money, made a lot of money playing
21:09
Speaker 1: for this Phillies organization, but could just never get over
21:13
Speaker 1: the top. In fact, I mean back in twenty fifteen,
21:16
Speaker 1: he signed a six year, twenty four million dollar contract extension.
21:20
Speaker 1: Back then, you know, before he ever reached the major leagues,
21:24
Speaker 1: and when he did, just wasn't able to find any success,
21:27
Speaker 1: just struggled constantly. So no more Scott Kingery. Those storylines
21:31
Speaker 1: of who will Scott Kingery be able to get up
21:33
Speaker 1: to the big leagues, It's never gonna happen in this organization, Eric.
21:39
Speaker 2: That was the go to story when the Phillies were
21:41
Speaker 2: just the dregs of Philadelphia sports.
21:45
Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
21:46
Speaker 2: Is Scott came going to make the turn?
21:48
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not.
21:50
Speaker 2: He was never going to. He was a mediocre player.
21:53
Speaker 1: But we had hope. We actually did have hope in
21:55
Speaker 1: the guy. But I swear to god, I saw that.
21:59
Speaker 2: Sorry, excuse me, I saw the topic and I'm like
22:02
Speaker 2: ten seasons with the Phillies.
22:04
Speaker 1: Yes, how did that fuck that happen?
22:07
Speaker 2: Ryan Howard only played thirteen Ryan Howard, one of the
22:10
Speaker 2: best Phillies of all time, played thirteen seasons with this
22:13
Speaker 2: guy was three years away from the Ryan Howard. That's
22:16
Speaker 2: insane to me. And I can't think of a single
22:19
Speaker 2: moment of him in those ten years where I was like,
22:22
Speaker 2: oh my god, Scott Kingery. I can't think of a
22:25
Speaker 2: single moment he had with this team, right right.
22:28
Speaker 1: I remember him being I remember him being like in
22:31
Speaker 1: the outfield every now and again and thinking, all right,
22:33
Speaker 1: all right, we're going to see something here. I think
22:35
Speaker 1: we're going to see something or what is he going
22:37
Speaker 1: to give us in this game? And it was consistent, Nah,
22:42
Speaker 1: that's just what it was. Consistently. But the fact that
22:46
Speaker 1: this organization kept him around for ten years, I don't
22:50
Speaker 1: know what to think about that, I really don't. I mean,
22:52
Speaker 1: they had some sort of hope for him, obviously, to
22:55
Speaker 1: keep around that long. Man, I just I have not
23:00
Speaker 1: heard of that with an organization keeping a guy around
23:03
Speaker 1: that long and just just never reaching it, just never
23:06
Speaker 1: reaching where they thought he would be.
23:09
Speaker 2: Well, this team has a long history of keeping players
23:11
Speaker 2: around a little too long, right now, Jasa le Jimmy
23:14
Speaker 2: rolland sure, I get that, but not Scott Kingery, Like
23:17
Speaker 2: he really never did anything with this team at all.
23:20
Speaker 2: And you know, unfortunately when the team got good, he
23:23
Speaker 2: kind of became, you know, obsolete. Yeah, but I am
23:28
Speaker 2: I going to remember Scott Kingry fondly. Not really.
23:32
Speaker 1: The ladies liked him as far as I know. Oh,
23:34
Speaker 1: my wife liked him. She got a passion with him
23:36
Speaker 1: one time and she's like, she's like, oh, how Scotty doing.
23:39
Speaker 1: It's like, oh god, he's not doing anything.
23:42
Speaker 2: He's got to twelve exactly if that, Yes, seriously, she
23:47
Speaker 2: got a picture with her.
23:48
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I like him.
23:50
Speaker 2: Do you tell me that. I'm like, man, I should
23:54
Speaker 2: have been a baseball player, my guy.
23:56
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Oh you would have been great. The ladies
23:58
Speaker 1: would have loved you.
24:00
Speaker 2: I would have had one seven.
24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:04
Speaker 2: It's had a good time though, exactly.
24:07
Speaker 1: God. Well, look, I mean, this off season is getting
24:10
Speaker 1: getting started. It's officially the start of the Major League
24:13
Speaker 1: Baseball off season qualifying offers. You know what that is
24:19
Speaker 1: actually going to mean? Team by team, thirteen MLB players
24:23
Speaker 1: received one year qualifying offer, and none of them are
24:28
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies. That guarantee didn't apply to either of the
24:32
Speaker 1: two Phillies who were qualified offer eligible in Jeff Hoffman
24:36
Speaker 1: and Spencer Turnbull, each of whom, again, they didn't receive
24:39
Speaker 1: the offer. Turnball was an obvious decision. Hoffman was less
24:44
Speaker 1: of a guarantee, but the twenty one point zero five
24:48
Speaker 1: million is a pretty steep price tag for any reliever.
24:52
Speaker 1: So what could potentially apply for the Phillies in twenty
24:56
Speaker 1: twenty five with regard to this is, you know, the
24:59
Speaker 1: p they'd have to pay should they sign one of
25:02
Speaker 1: the players who did receive one of these qualifying offers. Yes,
25:06
Speaker 1: that includes one Sodo. As we know, the Phillies may
25:09
Speaker 1: potentially be in on him, even though it's probably just
25:11
Speaker 1: going to be between the Yankees and the Mets at
25:13
Speaker 1: this point where Sodo goes, still, Phillies are going to
25:16
Speaker 1: be there. Because the Phillies did pay the luxury tax.
25:20
Speaker 1: Signing a player like that would strip them of both
25:23
Speaker 1: their second and fifth highest selections in the twenty twenty
25:26
Speaker 1: five MLB Draft. They'd also lose a million dollars in
25:29
Speaker 1: international signing money. So this is kind of that start
25:33
Speaker 1: to the season Eric where this Phillies team I think
25:36
Speaker 1: at this point they're not going to care if they
25:38
Speaker 1: spend money. They want to win. That's why they are
25:41
Speaker 1: going to be dipping their toes in the jan soda
25:43
Speaker 1: water here. But with regard to these qualifying offers and everything,
25:49
Speaker 1: you know, I if they decide to get one of
25:52
Speaker 1: the thirteen guys, I don't want to go through the
25:54
Speaker 1: entire list of guys here. I do have it in
25:56
Speaker 1: front of me. But you know, we've got some Mets,
25:58
Speaker 1: some Yankees, some ball more guys as well. If they
26:02
Speaker 1: decide they want to get them. I mean it's gonna
26:03
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna cost him for sure, But I
26:06
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna matter because this team is going
26:09
Speaker 1: to be spending some money in the off season.
26:11
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about the show a couple of weeks ago,
26:13
Speaker 2: like that's kind of their only option. I mean, young guys,
26:16
Speaker 2: they don't really have a lot Brandon Stott, you know,
26:20
Speaker 2: like they got they got to address the Brandon marsh situation,
26:24
Speaker 2: Like he's just he's just not a starter. I kind
26:27
Speaker 2: of like Santander out out of Baltimore. Yeah, he might
26:30
Speaker 2: be a nice any and he fits the profile. He's
26:32
Speaker 2: thirty years old. You're gonna to overpay him a little bit,
26:35
Speaker 2: but like that's kind of the your veteran team.
26:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think.
26:39
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna get Sodo. You're gonna have
26:41
Speaker 2: to drop like six hundred million dollars, which sure, I
26:44
Speaker 2: would love to have him right left handed bat with
26:47
Speaker 2: a short porch at the bank, but maybe to go
26:51
Speaker 2: different route, maybe to go Santander and and a starter
26:54
Speaker 2: because you can't put you can't try Walker out there again?
26:57
Speaker 1: Right next, what about Alex Bragman? What about Alex Bragman?
26:59
Speaker 1: I mean, is a third baseman in stuff? Is not
27:01
Speaker 1: an outfield type of guy. But Alex Bregman, I'm thirty
27:05
Speaker 1: years old as well.
27:06
Speaker 2: I like him too, but like what do you But
27:08
Speaker 2: then what do you do with the kid? It's third base?
27:11
Speaker 2: Like what do you where do you stick him? Where
27:12
Speaker 2: you stick bomb?
27:13
Speaker 1: Very true? I mean it's a good point if he's
27:15
Speaker 1: going to be part of this roster moving forward. I
27:18
Speaker 1: mean we think that he is, but you know, how
27:21
Speaker 1: much more of a ceiling can he have? I can
27:24
Speaker 1: only see him potentially having more struggles potentially down the road,
27:28
Speaker 1: based on how the end of his season went. For
27:30
Speaker 1: this team. I mean, he did overall, not a bad
27:33
Speaker 1: season at all, But I'd rather have Alex Bregman than
27:37
Speaker 1: Alex Boem.
27:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe can he play out field?
27:41
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm not sure. I'm not one
27:43
Speaker 1: hundred percent sure.
27:44
Speaker 2: Because you can't stick Bregman out there. But right if
27:46
Speaker 2: that I like that move too, if they went that route,
27:49
Speaker 2: but they're gonna have to. They're going to open the
27:52
Speaker 2: check book one last time. Yeah, one one bad and
27:55
Speaker 2: hopefully an arm two. I think if he solidified the
27:59
Speaker 2: starting pitching again and you had another bat, you're in
28:02
Speaker 2: good shape next year and your windows still like what
28:05
Speaker 2: inch and a half something like that, I mean two inches?
28:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's not forget Andrew Painter is gonna be
28:10
Speaker 1: likely with the organization, I mean, from our lips to
28:14
Speaker 1: God's ears, someday, someday for sure. Right, what is the.
28:20
Speaker 2: Last picture we called up that was just lights out
28:23
Speaker 2: starter from day one?
28:24
Speaker 1: Is it coal?
28:24
Speaker 2: Handles?
28:25
Speaker 1: Like? Definitely? Probably coal? Yeah, I think so.
28:31
Speaker 2: Was like what two thousand and seven?
28:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, it was Aaron. It was Nola probably,
28:35
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, it was Nola. It
28:37
Speaker 1: was Nola for sure, I mean that's still that's.
28:39
Speaker 2: Still a while, that's two and like fifteen years.
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it would be nice to get another
28:46
Speaker 1: arm for sure, it would be nice. We're definitely gonna
28:48
Speaker 1: be talking more Phillies in the future on this podcast platform.
28:52
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29:02
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29:04
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Speaker 1: here on the show, and we'd love to respond to
29:09
Speaker 1: it as well. I am not going I'm not gonna
29:12
Speaker 1: say our Twitter handles right now. Eric, not gonna do it.
29:16
Speaker 1: I'm not happy right now with Twitter. I'm not happy
29:19
Speaker 1: with a certain individual that owns it, so I'm not
29:22
Speaker 1: gonna do it.
29:24
Speaker 2: And it's also backed by Diddy, He's one of the
29:26
Speaker 2: top financial god.
29:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying that.
29:31
Speaker 2: Randomly, no reason behind it. I just want to make
29:33
Speaker 2: that out to everybody.
29:35
Speaker 1: Find us on threads, not that. Look I'm on threads.
29:38
Speaker 1: I do post some stuff I don't know about you.
29:40
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I see a lot
29:41
Speaker 1: of your thread stuff. Eric, are you doing thread stuff?
29:44
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
29:45
Speaker 1: Okay, mister Jeff Warren for me the show at Philadelphia
29:50
Speaker 1: Sports Table over on threads and just follow Eric anyway,
29:53
Speaker 1: just following Goose. He's gonna come over to threads. I
29:55
Speaker 1: know it. At Slen ten twenty three. I know he's
29:58
Speaker 1: gonna come over. I'm on there.
30:01
Speaker 2: It's weird threads, it really is. I get the weirdest
30:04
Speaker 2: post of like a lot of bots. I've noticed there
30:07
Speaker 2: are some bots. Yes, I'm doing a better job at
30:10
Speaker 2: blocking them. I'm doing a better job than I did
30:13
Speaker 2: with Twitter initially. Like when Twitter started with the bots,
30:16
Speaker 2: I was just like, okay, whatever, who cares?
30:18
Speaker 1: And I kind of just let it get out of
30:19
Speaker 1: control with with with the threads, I've been a lot
30:23
Speaker 1: better with it.
30:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably not gonna join you. I'm gonna I'm.
30:28
Speaker 1: Gonna of Twitter.
30:30
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna get blocked or suspended here by this
30:34
Speaker 2: week at least once.
30:35
Speaker 1: I'll go for it, buddy.
30:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it always funny. My daughter earlier asked me, She's like,
30:41
Speaker 2: what's that thing you would write on Twitter that would
30:43
Speaker 2: get you suspended, and I told her. She was like,
30:46
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, yes, I love it.
30:52
Speaker 1: I love it. Well, all right, I find Eric may
30:54
Speaker 1: do it this week, so follow Eric can't brickpoll it
30:57
Speaker 1: then on Twitter. All right, we're gonna take you a
31:01
Speaker 1: quick break. We're gonna be back with just a bit.
31:03
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a little tiny bit of college football talk,
31:05
Speaker 1: but from the college playoff excitement angle, and then we're
31:09
Speaker 1: gonna get into some sixers talks. Stick with us. We'll
31:11
Speaker 1: be right back. All right, we are back. And for
31:15
Speaker 1: folks that don't watch a ton of college football, I'm wondering,
31:19
Speaker 1: you know, is this college football playoff really gonna be
31:22
Speaker 1: the key that kind of brings them into the sport itself?
31:26
Speaker 1: Because Eric, listen, I was actually thinking about this topic,
31:29
Speaker 1: thinking about you, because I do know that you follow
31:31
Speaker 1: college football.
31:32
Speaker 2: I know when we.
31:32
Speaker 1: Were all of us, our group, our group guy friends
31:36
Speaker 1: were over at your house for the fantasy basketball draft
31:39
Speaker 1: that we were doing, we had some college football on
31:41
Speaker 1: in the background and stuff. But I don't think you're, like,
31:44
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're into it as much as
31:45
Speaker 1: I am in terms of following prospects and following you
31:49
Speaker 1: know which teams could potentially make it into the college
31:51
Speaker 1: Playoff and what teams might get kicked out, things like that.
31:55
Speaker 1: But I think this college football Playoff is actually gonna
31:59
Speaker 1: generate a lot more excitement with just football fans in general,
32:04
Speaker 1: maybe folks that don't watch college football all that much
32:07
Speaker 1: throughout the regular season, and I think it's actually gonna
32:10
Speaker 1: help bring some more folks into the fold. I just
32:12
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinion on this as somebody who's
32:14
Speaker 1: kind of like you're a college football fan a little
32:16
Speaker 1: bit more maybe of an outlier perhaps, but I don't
32:19
Speaker 1: know what are your thoughts about this?
32:21
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, sell me on it, because I'm not
32:23
Speaker 2: the biggest college football fan, right I follow Penn State.
32:27
Speaker 2: That's my team, and I do I will watch like
32:30
Speaker 2: a big Saturday night game. But is the expansion to sale?
32:36
Speaker 2: Is that what you're selling me on? Like they're expanding
32:38
Speaker 2: it's an actual playoff now.
32:39
Speaker 1: It's an actual playoff with twelve teams. I mean, there's
32:42
Speaker 1: going to be a bracket. It's not just the four
32:44
Speaker 1: teams that it's been over how many years now, It's
32:46
Speaker 1: not just the top four teams in a bracket. It's
32:49
Speaker 1: the top twelve teams, and at this point, right here,
32:54
Speaker 1: right here, as we are going into I believe it's
32:56
Speaker 1: what we ten for college football as well, ten or eleven,
33:00
Speaker 1: with Oregon being number one, Ohio State being number two,
33:03
Speaker 1: Georgia's three, Miami's four, Texas is five, Penn State drops
33:08
Speaker 1: to six after losing to Ohio State. Tennessee is at seven,
33:12
Speaker 1: Indiana in the Big Ten is at number eight, BYU
33:15
Speaker 1: is at number nine, Notre Dame, ten, eleven Alabama, and
33:20
Speaker 1: twelve Boise State. And my thought is here is that
33:24
Speaker 1: I just went through the list of schools there, Eric
33:27
Speaker 1: and because of this, there's a changing dynamic I think
33:30
Speaker 1: within the college football world now. And a lot of
33:32
Speaker 1: it is probably because of coaching changes throughout different different conferences,
33:37
Speaker 1: and the conference is changing themselves too, But the old
33:41
Speaker 1: powerhouses of college football, they're really gonna have to earn it.
33:46
Speaker 1: And I like to see that it's like for the
33:47
Speaker 1: first time in like thirty years, thirty forty years, some
33:50
Speaker 1: of these some of these old powerhouse teams, they're gonna
33:55
Speaker 1: be squirming, you know, to actually get to that next level,
33:59
Speaker 1: to get to the level of quote respectability that they
34:02
Speaker 1: have been at for so long because other teams have
34:05
Speaker 1: a chance, a very viable chance, and the energy. I
34:08
Speaker 1: think that the playoff is going to give certain schools
34:12
Speaker 1: that haven't seen or had the opportunity to have that
34:15
Speaker 1: national spotlight on them. I think could really change the
34:18
Speaker 1: dynamic and create a more excitement or more exciting dynamic
34:22
Speaker 1: throughout the entire playoff. So that's where I'm coming from.
34:25
Speaker 1: I don't know if I sold it to you, but
34:26
Speaker 1: that's my thoughts.
34:28
Speaker 2: Now, did that works? Like when they first announced, like
34:32
Speaker 2: the four team playoff, like that's not a playoff exactly?
34:35
Speaker 2: I thought it stunk, Yeah, like like a torrent, like
34:38
Speaker 2: you can't call yourself a like you can't compare yourself
34:42
Speaker 2: to like and they weren't, but in my mind they
34:44
Speaker 2: were with NCAA the tournament, Yeah with four teams, Like
34:49
Speaker 2: you're never going to beat that concept to the college level, right.
34:51
Speaker 1: Is A It's such an amazing idea.
34:54
Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with it originally, but
34:56
Speaker 2: like just this random like sixty four teams and one
34:59
Speaker 2: day each other. It's like, oh my god, this is
35:01
Speaker 2: so cool. I thought college football should have like approached
35:05
Speaker 2: that that theory like a long time ago, but it's
35:08
Speaker 2: a lot harder with football.
35:09
Speaker 1: I get that.
35:10
Speaker 2: So I really do appreciate the twelve and I actually
35:14
Speaker 2: will watch. What I will say is my team Penn State.
35:20
Speaker 2: They have no chance with.
35:24
Speaker 1: Will see.
35:27
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to promote another podcast, but like, I
35:31
Speaker 2: love when I love when guys get old enough where
35:34
Speaker 2: they hit that point of they don't give a shit.
35:36
Speaker 2: And I don't mean like your uncle at the Thanksgiving
35:39
Speaker 2: table being racist kind of thing, Like yeah, I'm talking
35:42
Speaker 2: more like Mike Lombardi on the GM Shuffle. He doesn't
35:46
Speaker 2: give a fuck anymore. It's one of the best listens
35:49
Speaker 2: of the week. Now, it's real.
35:51
Speaker 1: It's a thirty.
35:51
Speaker 2: Minute show boom, he's in, he's out, but he he is.
35:55
Speaker 2: He slices and dices and he's just absolutely real about
35:59
Speaker 2: his thoughts about football and he knows the game. And
36:01
Speaker 2: he actually talked about James Franklin in the Penn State.
36:05
Speaker 2: He only does NFL, but he actually had to bring
36:07
Speaker 2: it up how awful the play calling was. Yes, just
36:10
Speaker 2: the way he lays it out. I was like, oh
36:11
Speaker 2: my god, he's so right. We are so fucked.
36:15
Speaker 1: I hate laughing about it, but I think it's correct,
36:18
Speaker 1: because even.
36:19
Speaker 2: I text you guys like two runs up the gut
36:20
Speaker 2: are you kidding? And he vibrating on it, and I
36:23
Speaker 2: was like it just it broke my heart. I was
36:25
Speaker 2: It's one of those realistic slaps in the face, like
36:27
Speaker 2: cold water to the face to thing. I was like, Wow,
36:30
Speaker 2: We're never gonna We're never gonna, We're never gonna like
36:33
Speaker 2: overstep or get out of his get out of his
36:36
Speaker 2: way back.
36:37
Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. Like it just sucks.
36:39
Speaker 1: It was such a kick to the nuts. I was
36:41
Speaker 1: actually on a local TV show. They had me doing
36:44
Speaker 1: a five six minute segment on Penn State this past weekend,
36:49
Speaker 1: and one of the anchors is an Ohio State guy
36:53
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he ends the segment with the Ohio
36:55
Speaker 1: State fight song and it like surprising me and stuff,
36:58
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yes, Sun, like son of
37:00
Speaker 1: a bitch, and and just for the game to go
37:03
Speaker 1: the way that it did and then for the election
37:06
Speaker 1: to go the way that I'm like beaten down. I'm
37:09
Speaker 1: down trodden at this point, but I go ahead, I'm sorry.
37:13
Speaker 2: Just the athletes he has on offense, Yeah, to run
37:17
Speaker 2: a to run three times up the gut, Yes, on
37:20
Speaker 2: a first and goal, Like that's a nineteen sixties mentality,
37:24
Speaker 2: Like what do you like you have? You have one
37:26
Speaker 2: of the best tight ends in college football, the best, Yes,
37:30
Speaker 2: and you're like, let's go USC up the middle nineteen
37:33
Speaker 2: sixty eight like or like the why yes how stateon
37:37
Speaker 2: knew was coming?
37:38
Speaker 1: Like it was like the old Joe Paterno type of stuff.
37:41
Speaker 1: You'll almost to do it in remembrance of Joe.
37:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, which works in like nineteen eighty four, right, get it,
37:46
Speaker 2: like exactly, he's just so advanced now it's not gonna
37:49
Speaker 2: work right.
37:50
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's gonna be an interesting college football
37:53
Speaker 1: playoff for sure, and we're probably gonna be talking about
37:56
Speaker 1: on this college, on this college, on this podcast platform
38:00
Speaker 1: in the very near future. But before Eric, before I
38:03
Speaker 1: let you go, before we get to what we're throwing
38:04
Speaker 1: down on the table this week in our interview, we've
38:06
Speaker 1: got to talk about the sixers. It's going to be
38:08
Speaker 1: a great segue for what we're going to be talking
38:10
Speaker 1: about with you know, Troy when he comes on. But Embiid,
38:14
Speaker 1: as we know, has been suspended for three games due
38:16
Speaker 1: to the incident with Marcus Hayes in the locker room
38:18
Speaker 1: after the Memphis game, and I just like, I actually
38:23
Speaker 1: genuinely feel bad for Embiid. I feel bad that he
38:28
Speaker 1: had to have that written about him in all seriousness,
38:31
Speaker 1: And again, you know, I know you'll probably get get
38:34
Speaker 1: tired of it, but being a public official, some of
38:36
Speaker 1: the crap that gets written about you that you just
38:39
Speaker 1: can't do anything about. You know, you have people writing
38:41
Speaker 1: things about you that have either never met you, never
38:44
Speaker 1: had a conversation with you. But I'm sure Marcus Hayes
38:47
Speaker 1: has had conversations perhaps with joe El Embiid. But the disrespect,
38:52
Speaker 1: just the awfulness of what Marcus Hayes wrote and the
38:56
Speaker 1: fact that there were no consequences for him at all.
39:00
Speaker 1: And he's one of these writers, like Francis said, you know,
39:03
Speaker 1: you know, he's a hack writer. Francis are from the
39:06
Speaker 1: UH listener feedback earlier, just a hack writer. And it's
39:10
Speaker 1: unfortunate that that type of writing and even an individual
39:14
Speaker 1: like Marcus Hayes is credentialed. When we talk to so
39:17
Speaker 1: many different writers on this podcast platform and have for
39:21
Speaker 1: well over eleven years, who are such good writers. They
39:25
Speaker 1: report such good stuff. They know the game, they know
39:29
Speaker 1: the sixers, they understand the dynamics, the chemistry with the team,
39:34
Speaker 1: and they don't get credentialed. But Marcus Hayes, he keeps
39:37
Speaker 1: his credentials even after this one hundred thousand dollars that well,
39:42
Speaker 1: well that's what the Sixers were fined, and that's even
39:44
Speaker 1: that that's because of the load management stuff, which I'm
39:47
Speaker 1: going to be getting into into that with Troy. But
39:50
Speaker 1: this three game suspension, it's just it's so pathetic. It's
39:54
Speaker 1: so pathetic what the media is sports mediat times has become.
40:00
Speaker 1: And I actually I genuinely he Inbiad shouldn't have done it,
40:03
Speaker 1: but I genuinely feel bad for him. What's your take
40:06
Speaker 1: on it here?
40:07
Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with the embiads side. The last thing
40:12
Speaker 2: he needed and the team needed was you know, you
40:16
Speaker 2: actually had an offseason where you had cab money. And
40:19
Speaker 2: that's almost a recipe for disaster every year because most teams,
40:25
Speaker 2: the free agent never comes to your team, that's usually
40:27
Speaker 2: how it works, and then you wind up like spreading
40:29
Speaker 2: that cap money across like two or three like mediocre players,
40:33
Speaker 2: and then you're in cap hell for like five years
40:35
Speaker 2: and you wind up winning like forty six games. It's
40:38
Speaker 2: usually a bad move. But they actually got Paul George.
40:40
Speaker 2: They actually signed a ton of good players that know
40:43
Speaker 2: their role, they fit in with the they fit in
40:46
Speaker 2: with the team perfectly, Caleb, Martin, Gordon. So the last
40:51
Speaker 2: thing you needed, like it was going to be all
40:53
Speaker 2: business this year and beats like it's all about the
40:56
Speaker 2: playoffs alway should have been whatever.
40:58
Speaker 1: Yep.
40:59
Speaker 2: What the last thing they needed was him to not
41:02
Speaker 2: play and him to become a story, and that went
41:05
Speaker 2: completely fucking south. They're one and five, they're currently tied
41:09
Speaker 2: with the Clippers right now at halftime. And he hasn't
41:12
Speaker 2: played a single game and he had a rough summer too.
41:15
Speaker 1: I would say he went to the Olympics.
41:17
Speaker 2: I don't think he performed very well in my opinion
41:19
Speaker 2: for the most part. So the last he needed to
41:23
Speaker 2: come into the season and just dominate, put up thirty points,
41:27
Speaker 2: ten rebounds a game and just kick ass, and he
41:31
Speaker 2: did the complete opposite. And if he was hurt, just
41:33
Speaker 2: fucking admit you're hurt.
41:34
Speaker 1: It's fine.
41:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, shame on him for that. He really fucking handled
41:38
Speaker 2: this incorrectly. He got three more years and like one
41:43
Speaker 2: hundred and some million dollars from the Sixers. He should
41:45
Speaker 2: just come in and not been the story and just perform.
41:47
Speaker 2: So fuck you and b for that one. Okay, sorry,
41:50
Speaker 2: but Marcus Hayes' side of it right, like he is
41:55
Speaker 2: a hack correct, Yeah, but he's he's a he's a
41:58
Speaker 2: hit piece artist. That's what he does. And he's been
42:01
Speaker 2: in the Philadelphia media for a long long time. He's
42:04
Speaker 2: actually survived. There's so many guys that have been fired
42:08
Speaker 2: or passed away and he's somehow he's like this show.
42:13
Speaker 2: While the world's burning down, he's still there in Philadelphia
42:16
Speaker 2: riding the same horseshit pieces with Like there was always
42:20
Speaker 2: our gripe about guys like him where he would write
42:23
Speaker 2: like one sentence paragraphs because it's so deep.
42:27
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, this sentence is a relevant point.
42:32
Speaker 2: We're all waiting for the next sense. We can't wait
42:35
Speaker 2: to see what you write next. And it's always horseshit
42:38
Speaker 2: that that's his job.
42:39
Speaker 1: He's like Stephen A.
42:41
Speaker 2: Smith on TV, but he doesn't in written form, yeah,
42:44
Speaker 2: because he was never good enough to actually be on TV.
42:46
Speaker 2: He was, but he sucked at it. Like you know,
42:52
Speaker 2: eventually you're gonna write something that is like over the line,
42:57
Speaker 2: and you know the dead brother, his son, like that
42:59
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
43:00
Speaker 1: Thing.
43:00
Speaker 2: Obviously you want to tell him, be like, hey, don't
43:02
Speaker 2: be a story, don't get worked up over this. But man,
43:07
Speaker 2: I think he I think he did overstep the line,
43:09
Speaker 2: and like that's you know, eventually it's like man, de man,
43:12
Speaker 2: and it's like, dude, I'm not going to take your bullshit,
43:15
Speaker 2: like fuck you.
43:16
Speaker 1: You talk about somebody's kid, when you talk about a kid,
43:19
Speaker 1: when you talk about a kid, it's way way over
43:22
Speaker 1: the line.
43:24
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, they play right into his hands because now
43:26
Speaker 2: he's in the news and he's never get fire because
43:29
Speaker 2: that's kind of what whoever whoever he works for now
43:32
Speaker 2: I don't even fucking know. He's the inquiry sure, you know,
43:36
Speaker 2: but like like that, that's that's the unfortunate side effect
43:40
Speaker 2: of this is that he got publicity out of this,
43:41
Speaker 2: and they're going to be like, whoa, you want a
43:43
Speaker 2: new contract because this is exactly what the fuck you want.
43:45
Speaker 2: You're not a good You're not good a reporter. You're
43:47
Speaker 2: you're just full of ship and we know that.
43:49
Speaker 1: But I will, of.
43:51
Speaker 2: Course finish this story with my Marcus Hayes story. Uh yes,
43:58
Speaker 2: so for a while, uh, Mark says, and I lived
44:00
Speaker 2: in Old City at the same time. We went to
44:02
Speaker 2: the same gym, and uh. He would always run on
44:05
Speaker 2: the treadmill in biker shorts, like really tight biker shorts
44:10
Speaker 2: ones that he had no right, he had no right wearing.
44:14
Speaker 1: Really tight, like you could really see a lot of
44:16
Speaker 1: stuff going on.
44:17
Speaker 2: You could see everything going on. And he would walk
44:20
Speaker 2: from his apartment to the gym. You would see him
44:22
Speaker 2: on the sidewalk and he literally looked like meat loaf
44:26
Speaker 2: smushed into the biker shorts. It was so disgusting, And
44:30
Speaker 2: I remember, I don't think I was even texting at
44:32
Speaker 2: that time because it was so early two thousands, but
44:34
Speaker 2: I remember just being like like like doing my arms
44:38
Speaker 2: and looking up at the treadmills up across the top
44:41
Speaker 2: and seeing him, just like, God, I hate you, like
44:43
Speaker 2: I hate your writing, they hate what you stand for, and.
44:47
Speaker 1: I hate you wearing those shorts.
44:48
Speaker 2: It's so disgusting if you're here to get if you're.
44:51
Speaker 1: Here to like work out.
44:52
Speaker 2: And also like hit on some girls that ain't gonna that,
44:54
Speaker 2: ain't it, dude, that ain't gonna fucking work gross?
44:57
Speaker 1: You're really fucking gross. Check out the meat loaf ladies.
45:02
Speaker 2: I got the bubble like check out the moon bubble
45:05
Speaker 2: like crater ass I have going on in my disgusting Yeah,
45:09
Speaker 2: I yes, I love. He's gross inside and on and physically.
45:15
Speaker 1: There you go. There you go. All right, great way
45:17
Speaker 1: to en the segment. Right there, buddy, I'm gonna let
45:20
Speaker 1: you go. Do you have anything else before we head
45:23
Speaker 1: out and before we get to what we're thrown on
45:25
Speaker 1: a table?
45:26
Speaker 2: His biker shorts and the meat looking is Donald Trump
45:30
Speaker 2: of biker shortshy and disgusting.
45:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, buddy, I'm gonna let you go. We
45:39
Speaker 1: are going to take a break, folks, and when we
45:41
Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna have some more more Sixers talking
45:44
Speaker 1: where this team is at right now, talking about some
45:46
Speaker 1: of these role players as well. Stick with us. We'll
45:49
Speaker 1: be right back. All right, we are back. Let's getting
45:53
Speaker 1: more Sixers talk. It's what we're thrown down on the
45:55
Speaker 1: table and now on the table joining us this week
46:01
Speaker 1: to get into this Philadelphia seventy six ers team. He's
46:04
Speaker 1: a contributor over at Fansided's the sixercents dot com, and
46:09
Speaker 1: you can also hear his voice on Planet seventy six,
46:13
Speaker 1: that podcast that you can get on any major podcast platform.
46:16
Speaker 1: We've got the one and only Troy Van Camp.
46:18
Speaker 4: How you doing, Buddy, I'm doing great, Jeff. It's a
46:21
Speaker 4: privilege to be back on this is awesome.
46:23
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time. I really do, because
46:26
Speaker 1: we had a lot to get into with regard to
46:28
Speaker 1: this seventy six ers team. We're recording this interview on Tuesday,
46:32
Speaker 1: November fifth, and the news just came out today that
46:36
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid is going to be suspended for three games.
46:40
Speaker 1: Of course, I didn't have those in the topics that
46:42
Speaker 1: I threw over to you before our discussion, but Troy
46:46
Speaker 1: Man I, my co host Eric and I were just
46:49
Speaker 1: talking about it, and it's just I just wanted to
46:52
Speaker 1: get your take, you know, right off the bat of
46:54
Speaker 1: this the suspension here. We're certainly going to get into
46:56
Speaker 1: the start of this season and what his absence is
46:59
Speaker 1: also meant. But this, uh, this suspension here, what are
47:03
Speaker 1: your thoughts here, because it's like I feel downtrodden quite frankly,
47:06
Speaker 1: what are you thinking?
47:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, it's uh, definitely right on Q I think,
47:11
Speaker 4: or right on par I should say, maybe with the
47:13
Speaker 4: start of the season so far, it's uh, it's disappointing.
47:17
Speaker 4: You know, it's almost like to be a fly on
47:19
Speaker 4: the wall in the locker room that night, you know,
47:21
Speaker 4: with what happened to kind of get a better picture
47:24
Speaker 4: of how it went down. But uh, you know, disappointed obviously.
47:28
Speaker 4: You know, I haven't heard Joel's made any remarks about
47:30
Speaker 4: it or anything like that, but uh, yeah, you know,
47:32
Speaker 4: obviously lost this cool a little bit. And uh, it's
47:35
Speaker 4: gonna have to sit. I mean, not that he's already
47:37
Speaker 4: he's already been sitting. There were rumors that he was
47:38
Speaker 4: going to play against the Clippers. Obviously that's not going
47:40
Speaker 4: to happen. But you know, the hope is he sits
47:43
Speaker 4: out these three games and in game four comes around.
47:45
Speaker 4: Whenever that is, I think we'll be back home at
47:46
Speaker 4: that point. Uh. This is uh just on par like
47:53
Speaker 4: I said, with how this season has been so far.
47:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, well let's get into this early part
47:58
Speaker 1: of this sixer season, because it really has been a mess.
48:02
Speaker 1: They didn't have Paul George for the first five games. Again,
48:04
Speaker 1: this indeed situation is just at the front of everyone's mind.
48:08
Speaker 1: They haven't won a home game yet as of us
48:10
Speaker 1: recording this, folks, it may be dramatic to say this, Troy,
48:15
Speaker 1: but it feels like a lost season. And I know
48:18
Speaker 1: we're only a few games in. It does sound dramatic
48:20
Speaker 1: to say that, but we're all frustrated, and I'm wondering,
48:24
Speaker 1: how should we really be looking at things long term
48:27
Speaker 1: here this season, this twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five season,
48:30
Speaker 1: with this team here, because I feel like so much
48:33
Speaker 1: has been lost already. What are your thoughts?
48:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been a whirl win so far, and
48:40
Speaker 4: you know, we're an overtime went away from being oh
48:42
Speaker 4: and six. You know, it's like you're crazy to even
48:44
Speaker 4: think about that. And it's not the start of the
48:48
Speaker 4: season anybody envisioned. But they've been without Joelle, they've been
48:53
Speaker 4: without Paul George other than last night against Phoenix, and
48:56
Speaker 4: it's been hard. I think the thing I keep coming
48:59
Speaker 4: back to is, well, we know that Joel and Paul
49:03
Speaker 4: George are gonna miss games, uh later in the season too.
49:06
Speaker 4: So if you think there's gonna be a five sixty
49:08
Speaker 4: seven game stretch where both those guys aren't gonna play
49:10
Speaker 4: in January or February, is this team really gonna go
49:14
Speaker 4: one in six?
49:14
Speaker 1: You know?
49:15
Speaker 4: Zero to seven in those stretches later on, because that
49:18
Speaker 4: would be concerning, you know, we I mean, I feel
49:21
Speaker 4: like I've talked about it all the time on our
49:23
Speaker 4: podcast over at Plane at seventy six, that you know,
49:26
Speaker 4: you bring in Paul George, but then you also were
49:28
Speaker 4: able to do something you wanted to do in acquiring
49:30
Speaker 4: a lot of really high quality depth. You're bringing Andre Drummond,
49:33
Speaker 4: who's the best backup that Joel's ever had.
49:36
Speaker 1: Would Lord Drummond at this point? My gosh, Troy, what's
49:39
Speaker 1: going on?
49:40
Speaker 4: I don't know. It was mi Ia last night against Phoenix.
49:43
Speaker 4: It was all Gershan in the you know, in the
49:45
Speaker 4: second half, and it's just you know, it's almost like, Okay,
49:49
Speaker 4: you bring in those depth pieces because you know that
49:52
Speaker 4: George and Ed are going to miss games. You have
49:54
Speaker 4: to win some games when they're not on the floor.
49:56
Speaker 4: And right now we're not all hope isn't lost. You know,
49:59
Speaker 4: we haven't seen the full picture yet and I'm still
50:02
Speaker 4: very confident what this team will look like with when
50:04
Speaker 4: Joel returns. But man, oh man, like as far as
50:08
Speaker 4: seeding's concerned, as far as like, I mean, I know
50:10
Speaker 4: it's November, but like you talk about playing, Like, if
50:13
Speaker 4: Joel misses forty games and we go ten and thirty
50:16
Speaker 4: in those games, who knows what we're gonna be looking
50:19
Speaker 4: at in May in April.
50:20
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, Well, like we said, and as we know,
50:23
Speaker 1: within Sixers Nation, here Paul George finally playing. He made
50:26
Speaker 1: his debut against the Suns this week. As you had mentioned,
50:30
Speaker 1: I mean, as of us recording this, we've only seen
50:33
Speaker 1: him on the court for one game. Within that one game,
50:37
Speaker 1: with what we saw last night with the Sun's game,
50:40
Speaker 1: what did his presence mean on the court to you?
50:44
Speaker 4: So I'm a I'm a pretty big Paul George fan,
50:46
Speaker 4: you know, before we acquired him, and I've just always
50:49
Speaker 4: loved the way he played. I think he's just one
50:51
Speaker 4: of the smoothest players you see on the on the court,
50:53
Speaker 4: especially on the offensive end, and we know what he
50:54
Speaker 4: can do defensively too throughout his career. I think one
51:00
Speaker 4: thing that I was like, Okay, that's gonna take some
51:01
Speaker 4: getting used to is the amount of iso ball that
51:03
Speaker 4: he plays. Yeah, seemed like time and time again in
51:06
Speaker 4: the second half, you'd get the ball up top and
51:08
Speaker 4: be waving some guys off, and I'm like, hmm, you know,
51:11
Speaker 4: that's gonna take some getting used to it. I'm watching
51:13
Speaker 4: him on my team.
51:15
Speaker 2: And then.
51:17
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw what he said postgame,
51:19
Speaker 4: he thought that we were down one. Yeh. On that
51:22
Speaker 4: last possession after kd put put the Sons up by
51:25
Speaker 4: two twenty four seconds, Paul George demands the ball late,
51:29
Speaker 4: dribbles out the clock, doesn't get a shot up till
51:30
Speaker 4: like three or four seconds, and misses a deep contested
51:33
Speaker 4: two thinking we were down one. I don't know how
51:36
Speaker 4: that really changes things, but like, I mean, you gotta
51:38
Speaker 4: get you got to get it going earlier than that,
51:40
Speaker 4: because again we saw it. They get a tap out
51:43
Speaker 4: and then MAXI doesn't get a three off in time
51:45
Speaker 4: he missed anyway, but like you got to you gotta
51:46
Speaker 4: go a little earlier in the clock than that. All No, No,
51:49
Speaker 4: I didn't like that.
51:50
Speaker 1: I wish he had a drove instead of strike in
51:52
Speaker 1: that deep too. Why not just drive to the basket.
51:55
Speaker 4: He was four for fourteen on the night. I don't
51:57
Speaker 4: think he had the I don't think he had the
51:58
Speaker 4: right exactly have that ball in that situation. His first game,
52:02
Speaker 4: But I don't know. That was kind of interesting, but
52:05
Speaker 4: all in all, I'm excited to see him with this
52:07
Speaker 4: team early am I like the way he plays and
52:09
Speaker 4: I like what he brings.
52:09
Speaker 1: Especially when Embiid gets back. Like you said, I mean,
52:12
Speaker 1: we're just waiting for that to happen. It's not gonna
52:13
Speaker 1: probably happen till maybe maybe no November twelfth or something,
52:16
Speaker 1: when Embiid can potentially come back. It's it's look at
52:21
Speaker 1: what's happening with the role players thus far, and I
52:24
Speaker 1: think it's difficult to ask these guys and players to
52:27
Speaker 1: do more than what they're used to doing or even
52:29
Speaker 1: capable of being able to do night after night, especially
52:33
Speaker 1: when you don't have a presence like Paul George and
52:36
Speaker 1: Embiid for the first you know, five six games of
52:39
Speaker 1: this season. But that's that's what the situation is at
52:43
Speaker 1: this point here. What have you seen or not seen
52:46
Speaker 1: from these role players and from the depth that has
52:49
Speaker 1: been surprising for you early this season, whether it's from
52:52
Speaker 1: a positive or negative standpoint. I don't know if you
52:54
Speaker 1: have a couple guys in mind here, but you know,
52:57
Speaker 1: what have you been seeing here from these role players?
52:59
Speaker 1: Po that it was the negatives?
53:01
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I think we already touched on one a
53:03
Speaker 4: little bit. Andre Drummond one of the more negative ones.
53:05
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just stuffed the stat sheet a couple
53:08
Speaker 4: of times. But you know, I really did envision coming
53:12
Speaker 4: into the season, man, this is great, especially when it
53:14
Speaker 4: beads out, we'll be able to steal a couple of wins,
53:16
Speaker 4: and we just we haven't done that.
53:18
Speaker 1: He hasn't had much consistency.
53:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's one that's a little alarming. And then
53:25
Speaker 4: Caleb Martin, I I like the pickup. I really really
53:28
Speaker 4: don't like having him in the starting lineup. He just
53:30
Speaker 4: hasn't shot the ball well yet from three especially. I
53:32
Speaker 4: get we're only a few games in, but would love
53:35
Speaker 4: to see him contribute a little more from beyond the arc.
53:38
Speaker 4: And then the one that baffles me a little bit now,
53:42
Speaker 4: I mean, Kyle Lowry's shooting the leather off the ball
53:44
Speaker 4: in the early going. I mean, we love to see that.
53:46
Speaker 4: But coming into the season, when we picked up Redgie Jackson,
53:49
Speaker 4: I was like, man, maybe those two guys are going
53:51
Speaker 4: to be used situationally, depending on what the need is
53:54
Speaker 4: at the time. And I'm still in the camp if
53:57
Speaker 4: I think Reggie Jackson can provide something, Okay, for this team,
54:00
Speaker 4: and we've seen him very very little on the floor,
54:04
Speaker 4: and yet we're where we're at for a reason, Like,
54:07
Speaker 4: why hasn't he gotten a shot yet? Yeah, he's been
54:10
Speaker 4: used sparingly and I think he's good now. Again, I
54:12
Speaker 4: don't think that means, you said, Kyle because of what
54:14
Speaker 4: he's done so far, But I mean we're down key
54:18
Speaker 4: players and yet Reggie Jackson is still not getting an opportunity.
54:21
Speaker 1: That one.
54:22
Speaker 4: That one, I don't know if there's an injury that
54:24
Speaker 4: we don't know about or something, but that one is
54:26
Speaker 4: a little weird to me.
54:27
Speaker 1: That is a little weird. Absolutely, Well, moving along here,
54:30
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Tyre Smaxi too, because this
54:33
Speaker 1: guy is just trying to do it all out on
54:36
Speaker 1: the court, and he almost is doing it all even
54:38
Speaker 1: though they have been coming up short time and time again.
54:42
Speaker 1: He's third in the NBA right now in terms of points.
54:45
Speaker 1: He's averaging thirty point two points per game. He's logging
54:49
Speaker 1: forty one minutes on average per game. The guy's like
54:52
Speaker 1: Superman on the court here. But at the end of
54:55
Speaker 1: the day, he obviously can't do it by himself. He
54:58
Speaker 1: cannot get it done alone. So what are your thoughts
55:02
Speaker 1: on MAXI, his game early on this season, the pressure
55:05
Speaker 1: he's probably putting on himself, and what it really means
55:07
Speaker 1: to this team.
55:09
Speaker 4: You love the kid, You love the hustle, he love
55:11
Speaker 4: what he brings. Yeah, the smile that he plays with.
55:14
Speaker 4: You know, he's just a lot of fun to root for, certainly.
55:18
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean he's shooting the ball a ton,
55:21
Speaker 4: and I guess in a lot of ways he kind
55:23
Speaker 4: of has to. Yeah, you know, he's almost forcing himself to,
55:27
Speaker 4: like you said, but you know, it's real easy to say.
55:32
Speaker 4: You know, when he goes and has a poor shooting night,
55:33
Speaker 4: but he shoots the ball thirty times, they pump the
55:36
Speaker 4: brakes a little bit. But again, given the situation to
55:39
Speaker 4: start the season, he's kind of had to be that guy,
55:42
Speaker 4: and he's had games that were worthy of winning, and
55:46
Speaker 4: yet we just hadn't picked up wins yet other than
55:49
Speaker 4: the game at Indiana. But you know, I remember last
55:52
Speaker 4: night watching the game against Phoenix, he really got hot
55:54
Speaker 4: in the second half. He made a couple of threes consecutively,
55:57
Speaker 4: and then the next possession he had like a little
55:59
Speaker 4: bit of a you know, a fast break opportunity. He
56:02
Speaker 4: caught it on the wing and I was like, shoot it,
56:03
Speaker 4: just just throw it up and shoot it. Yeah, and
56:05
Speaker 4: he did and he missed. I was like, all right,
56:07
Speaker 4: well maybe not maybe don't shoot that, you know, like
56:09
Speaker 4: because it's like you want to you want to see
56:11
Speaker 4: him succeed, you want to see him continue to be hot.
56:13
Speaker 1: But it's like we can't love and choose it. It's
56:15
Speaker 1: like we can't pick and choose with Tyres Maxey at
56:17
Speaker 1: this point. We want him to I feel like we
56:20
Speaker 1: need him to do everything, but we really don't want
56:22
Speaker 1: him to do everything. If that makes sense to you
56:24
Speaker 1: and to the folks out there listening, it's it's it's
56:27
Speaker 1: really a conundrum that the poor guy is in at
56:30
Speaker 1: this point as he's continuing to develop as an NBA
56:33
Speaker 1: player and a top potential star here in this league.
56:37
Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt. Yeah he's I remember I think
56:39
Speaker 4: it was a gaming in San Antonio kind of similar
56:41
Speaker 4: situation last season. We were, you know, kind of in
56:43
Speaker 4: that late season playing run and he was shooting it
56:46
Speaker 4: every time down the floor. He had a really big
56:48
Speaker 4: game we got to win, and yet like, yeah, it's
56:51
Speaker 4: kind of hard to to to fault him for what
56:54
Speaker 4: he does as far as the amount of shots that
56:57
Speaker 4: he puts up. So I'm for it. I like what
57:00
Speaker 4: he does. I like his work ethic and man like. Again,
57:04
Speaker 4: he just cannot wait to see him with Paul and
57:07
Speaker 4: with Joel healthy.
57:08
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, it's gonna be fun. We gotta wait for it.
57:11
Speaker 1: We gotta wait for it, folks. I hate waiting for stuff.
57:14
Speaker 1: We're impatient. We're Philly sports fans. We're impatient again, folks.
57:18
Speaker 1: We're talking to Troy Van Camp from from fan Sided's
57:23
Speaker 1: The Sixers Sense and check out his podcast. Check out
57:27
Speaker 1: his podcast as well, Planet seventy six, and make sure
57:30
Speaker 1: you follow him on the Twitter slash x t van
57:33
Speaker 1: Camp twenty two. Great great follow And as we're moving
57:36
Speaker 1: along with the conversation here, Troy, it's not like the
57:40
Speaker 1: Sixers are a team that's like constructed like Washington is,
57:44
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's a lot of good
57:46
Speaker 1: talent on this team, and some of that talent, of course,
57:49
Speaker 1: brought in during this offseason. So I'm wondering what players
57:53
Speaker 1: have stood out to you most this season from the
57:56
Speaker 1: free agent aspect that were brought in that you believe
58:00
Speaker 1: not only have made a difference but will continue to
58:03
Speaker 1: make a difference. And Paul Georgia aside, we've only seen
58:05
Speaker 1: him for one game, but of the players brought in
58:08
Speaker 1: during this offseason, like, who who do you believe has
58:11
Speaker 1: really made that difference to start this season.
58:15
Speaker 4: Yeah this might sound a little crazy because I just
58:17
Speaker 4: got on him a little bit for his lack of shooting.
58:18
Speaker 4: But Caleb Barton, yeah you can. I mean he's affecting
58:22
Speaker 4: the game in ways without having his shot fall. And
58:25
Speaker 4: you know, he's still averaging double digit points. He's everything
58:27
Speaker 4: like seven and a half rebounds early go and he's
58:29
Speaker 4: playing a lot of minutes too. But he's a high
58:32
Speaker 4: energy guy, very capable defender. You know, despite Kevin Durant
58:36
Speaker 4: taking over in the fourth quarter, you know, Martin was
58:38
Speaker 4: kind of the primary defender and he wasn't playing bad
58:41
Speaker 4: defense for the most part. And so I just like
58:43
Speaker 4: what he brings. I think he's going to continue to
58:44
Speaker 4: be and we know what he's done in the playoffs
58:47
Speaker 4: with his history, so I think he's really one guy.
58:50
Speaker 4: And again still waiting on Andre Drummond. But I mean
58:54
Speaker 4: we got Caleb Martin on a steel. I mean, for
58:57
Speaker 4: whatever reason, he didn't want to go back to Miami
58:59
Speaker 4: came here on a really great deal for the Sixers,
59:01
Speaker 4: and I'm happy to have him. I think he's the one.
59:03
Speaker 1: Okay, very good. And before I let you leave, wanted
59:07
Speaker 1: to talk about another aspect of this Sixers team that
59:10
Speaker 1: just is kind of mind boggling to me. And I
59:12
Speaker 1: was actually on one of our local news stations this
59:14
Speaker 1: past week and one of the reporters asked me about
59:17
Speaker 1: this particular situation, and it's about the one hundred thousand
59:21
Speaker 1: dollars fine that the NBA gave to the Sixers organization
59:24
Speaker 1: with regard to the embid load management stuff and then
59:29
Speaker 1: being way too transparent about it for whatever reason. But
59:34
Speaker 1: like I said during the interview this past week again
59:38
Speaker 1: on local news that I was on, it seems like
59:40
Speaker 1: the NBA holds some sort of grudge against the Sixers.
59:43
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just jaded. Maybe it's that notion that
59:47
Speaker 1: Adam Silver just doesn't like the Sixers front office. It's
59:50
Speaker 1: like they have an axe to grind. And I'm not
59:53
Speaker 1: a conspiracy guy at all by any stretch of the imagination,
59:56
Speaker 1: but I do wonder if there's still maybe some animosity
59:59
Speaker 1: from the league in general, from the old Sam Hanky years,
1:00:02
Speaker 1: you know, the process, even though Sam Hanky is no
1:00:04
Speaker 1: longer around. What are your thoughts on the fine and
1:00:08
Speaker 1: how the NBA really kind of just acts towards the
1:00:10
Speaker 1: seventy six ers in general.
1:00:12
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a fellow Sixers fan with you, I think
1:00:14
Speaker 4: there might be some.
1:00:15
Speaker 1: Truth to it.
1:00:17
Speaker 4: I like to think there is, because like, how do
1:00:18
Speaker 4: how else do you make sense of it? Yeah, because
1:00:21
Speaker 4: every team does this, right, every.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: Team does it.
1:00:25
Speaker 4: And I mean if you watch look back to the
1:00:27
Speaker 4: playoff last year, Joelle's playing on one knee. Yeah, and
1:00:30
Speaker 4: like that's not that long ago, you know. I mean,
1:00:32
Speaker 4: whatever recovery he did this offseason, he obviously competed in
1:00:35
Speaker 4: the Olympics and so you know, prevented him from maybe
1:00:39
Speaker 4: doing full treatment that he should have done or whatever
1:00:42
Speaker 4: the case may be there. But like he has a
1:00:45
Speaker 4: history of being hurt. He wants to play. It's not
1:00:49
Speaker 4: you know, even how he reacted to kind of Philly
1:00:51
Speaker 4: fans' response to him not being on the floor, you know,
1:00:55
Speaker 4: kind of spoke into that a little bit too. But
1:00:58
Speaker 4: there might be something there. From the end, I don't
1:01:00
Speaker 4: get it. You know, one hundred thousand dollars fine for
1:01:03
Speaker 4: him you know, being hurt and you know, the Sixers
1:01:06
Speaker 4: not I don't know, I don't know vocally going out
1:01:09
Speaker 4: and describing what's going on, because I think all of
1:01:12
Speaker 4: us Sixers fans are a little confused too. Yeah, but
1:01:15
Speaker 4: obviously he's, you know, beside the aside from the suspension,
1:01:19
Speaker 4: like he was gearing up toward playing maybe this week
1:01:22
Speaker 4: out on the West Coast. Obviously that's not gonna happen now.
1:01:24
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm not a fan of how the NBA
1:01:27
Speaker 4: has treated the Sixers and Joel and just again right
1:01:31
Speaker 4: on par with how the seasons started.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: Me.
1:01:32
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's been it's just been a mess so far.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: You know, I've said this phrase before and everybody loves
1:01:39
Speaker 1: these these phrases that I use. But you can't fall
1:01:41
Speaker 1: out of a basement window, and that's where the Sixers
1:01:45
Speaker 1: are right now at this point. They can only go
1:01:47
Speaker 1: up from here again, folks. Troy Van Camp from the
1:01:51
Speaker 1: Planet seventy six podcast, also a contributor over at the
1:01:55
Speaker 1: sixersinse dot com over at fan Sided, Troy Buddy, it
1:01:58
Speaker 1: was great talking to you. Thanks so much for taking
1:02:00
Speaker 1: the time. I'm looking forward to talking to you if
1:02:02
Speaker 1: you want to jump back on at some point down
1:02:04
Speaker 1: the road for some seventy six ers talk. I'd love
1:02:06
Speaker 1: to have you back, my friend.
1:02:07
Speaker 4: Dude, thank you so much. I will say this, the
1:02:10
Speaker 4: last time I came on, six Ers season just ended.
1:02:13
Speaker 4: This time I come on, they're one and five, So maybe,
1:02:16
Speaker 4: just maybe next time wugh to be a more positive
1:02:18
Speaker 4: looking conversations.
1:02:18
Speaker 1: A little bit more positive exactly. We got to make
1:02:21
Speaker 1: sure that happens. Troy. Well, we appreciate your time, my friend,
1:02:24
Speaker 1: doubt thank you very much.
1:02:25
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and.
1:02:27
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