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S6 235. Roundtable with - Dan Duval - Basil Rosewater - Veils, MK Ultra Flashpoint : The Revival Hidden in the Fringe · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks, this is Princess. You are listening to the
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  Millennial. Mustard Seed Podcast, thanks for
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
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  himself from the dead, and yet we are not going to believe that
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  anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though His
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  word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven. So they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
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  being spoken. These giants would live way up
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  in the Highland. The young Braves, the young men
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  would hide up in the. Trees and wait for.
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  One of these 12 footers to come walking.
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  Down the path and. They would jump on them and kill
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  them. Drag them back to the village,
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  and the village would feast on the body freedom.
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  Then people start to get weapons, they start to get
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  armor, they start to build cities, they start to fortify
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  their cities. Now God looks.
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  Down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle, this war that we are at is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities and these rulers
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  and these archons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
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  Fear. Is one of the primary drivers of
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  mind. Control.
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  Because we have to. Take every thought captive and
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  resist fear. You're going to have a testimony
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  that is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
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  Music. Welcome back to the MMSI Am,
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  your producer, creator and part time host Rod Smith.
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  This may be one of the most epic broadcasts I've been a part of
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  to date. I don't say that lightly.
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  I'm joined by the one and only Dan Duvall, founder of Bride
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  Ministers International and host of Discovering Truth with Dan
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  Duvall. I'm also joined by Basil
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  Rosebaugh, Co founder of Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News
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  Talk, as well as my Co host for this episode, Carly.
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  And it's humbling to be a part of such a explosive
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  conversation. Revelatory.
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  I mean, we get some of the back story of the early days from Dan
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  and Basil. The last time they were on air
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  together was over 10 years ago. And somehow I've been able to
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  facilitate this conversation, reuniting old friends on air.
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  It's just it's, it's unbelievably cool.
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  We talk about the Veil, warfare, reality, the Revival hidden in
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  the Fringe, and so much more. You guys.
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  Here's just a couple of topics covered.
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  Our list out. The Veil is tearing Revival
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  through the destruction of the false reality overlay.
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  The rise of Heaven's armies, Survivors of SRA becoming
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  frontline warriors. Reprogramming, deprogramming the
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  Ekklesia from MK Ultra to Kingdom Awakened.
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  News as sorcery media as a control grid and the Canary Cry
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  Kingdom counter attack, mapping the fringe to foundation.
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  How prophetic podcasts seeded the revival that we're seeing
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  happen now, you guys, I'm going to read just a couple quotes
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  that get quoted on this Round Table episode.
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  Revival isn't coming. It's already here, but it's not
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  inside the walls. It's in the broken places of
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  your soul. I say that Rod Smith, We're not
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  reacting anymore. We're executing the judgments of
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  God in earth, Carly says. The most powerful force on earth
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  is the agreement of God's people with his Word, and we're just
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  getting started, says Dan Duvall.
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  Without Christ as the new veil, the tearing would have destroyed
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  us, but now we're magnetized to the Father, says Basil
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  Rosewater. Such a fascinating get together.
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  I really hope you guys enjoy this.
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  This is legendary to say the least.
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  I think it's about time to jump into this episode.
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  I'm ready. Are you guys ready?
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  Let's go. Let's go.
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  Razzle Dazzle. I'm your best buddy Basil from
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  Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk.
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  And I'm Dan Duvall, welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed
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  Podcast. It is so epic to be here with
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  all four of you because I'm joined once again by Carly, my
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  Co host for this episode and I just have a lot of respect and
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  honor for both of these men. Dan Duvall from Bride Ministries
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  and he also has Discovering Truth, his podcast series and
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  Basil OG from Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk and you
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  guys are old friends. So I'm just going to kind of
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  step out of the way and just I think it was over 10 years ago
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  was the last time you guys were on air together.
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  It is epic to witness this regathering.
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  Welcome, gentlemen. Yeah, it's great to be here.
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  Great to see you, Dan. And like we were just saying
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  before we are recording and of course, you know, we want to get
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  the real mushy stuff out before the recording.
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  But you know, it's very encouraging because often times
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  Ganz and I, we question why are we still doing this?
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  What are we, are we wrong? Are we missing something?
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  Have should we have stopped a long time ago?
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  And then to see guys like you who we really, at least from my
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  perspective, at least from what I know, we are coming up around
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  the same time, at a time when the world was completely
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  different and what we were doing was not considered a national
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  security threat, which was, you know, the good old days.
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  Right, Yeah. You know, I, I remember we, we
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  met actually, I, I have actually seen Basil's face.
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  I don't know, is that old school?
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  Because we, we met at a, a conference called The World
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  Turned Upside Down. And that was as I was going
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  through a major transition in my life and, and ministry.
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  I actually just gotten fired essentially, you know, from
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  another radio thing that I was doing at the time.
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  And, and, and I was gracious enough, like the people that
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  were putting together were gracious enough to invite me.
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  And it was like a whole new world opened up.
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  And I don't even know that I had relaunched discovering truth
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  with Dan DePaul. This was this was wow, I mean
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  over a decade ago now. Then again, bat basil and gowns
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  in person. We, we were hanging out with the
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  Hagman's and unfortunately Joe the son, he, I mean, he passed
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  away since that, this, this, I knew him when there were
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  podcasts that were live that like, you know, I mean,
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  everything has changed. Yeah, yeah, it was a totally
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  different world. So there you go.
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  But no, we haven't been in touch.
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  Now we just secretly watch each other from across the gym.
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  I will say at the top here, people who have heard me before,
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  you will notice this is not my regular voice.
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  It's a little rough this morning and just know that it's not
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  because I'm sick and fighting off some sort of nanobot attack
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  from the CIA. It's it's a very fancy voice
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  changer that helps resist AI powered geolocation through the
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  sound waves of your voice. So we'll see how long it can go
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  for. But I'm in, I'm in, I'm here,
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  we're charging it. And if my voice does go out,
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  that'll just be a good, I don't know, trigger for everybody to
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  just start praying for me because that means they're
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  coming for me. They found me.
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  Yeah, it's so interesting that last night you you kind of
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  texted me or I texted you, I'm sorry.
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  And and your response was, hey, as long as I have a voice, I'll
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  be there tomorrow. But like kind of came out of
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  left field, right? And so man, Father, just be with
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  Basil and give him the words to say anoint his tongue that he
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  should speak that which is you're bringing down from
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  heaven, Father. And if he can't speak much, then
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  we're just going to agree that what you have given him as the
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  perfect amount, the perfect measure.
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  Yeah. Dude, you're a trooper for
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  showing up like you, you want guns do so much and and you
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  know, multiple broadcasts a week.
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  You're doing the clubhouse, the live call insurance, you know,
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  and getting the interaction with guests that are that are
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  listening from out there. And so you're using your voice
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  quite a lot. Thank you.
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  I mean, I, this literally started happening on air about
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  two hours into yesterday's show and it just kind of totally gave
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  out. But I will say, you know, God is
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  sovereign and everything happens for a reason.
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  I'm it is, I don't even say it humor humorously.
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  It's probably happening because the Holy Spirit, you know,
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  wanted me to listen a little bit more in this conversation than
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  to speak. So I'm going to be working on
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  that. Yeah, Oprah is God.
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  I mean, with, with having Dan here, Dan, I just kind of want
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  to set it off with you talked a little bit about these, these
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  older days, right, reminiscing almost going back.
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  Do you want to talk a bit about timeline and then maybe a couple
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  things that bring you to present like that could be encouraging
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  to guys like I don't know me who are 5-6 years into trying to
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  maintain the calling and walk it out because you guys have been
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  doing this for so long. And then let's get into some
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  relevant things that that are happening right now that we need
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  to be aware of as the body of Christ.
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  I don't know how you feel about that, but maybe.
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  Well, I'm going to give you a little known fact.
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  Gods actually put together the covers for two of my books,
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  Kingdom Government and the Promise of Sheep Nations and
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  Higher dimensions, parallel Dimensions in the spirit realm.
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  I actually roped them into that somehow.
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  And so I think actually that probably is the last thing we
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  communicated on was when he was doing the the cover work for
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  higher dimensions, parallel dimensions in the spirit world.
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  So, you know, I mean, timeline wise, I think we have very
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  different views of timeline. If if Basil wants to get into
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  this, because my timeline, it took me through a lot of
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  different areas of Christianity. We and we kind of ended up as
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  bride ministries kind of on our own little realm because the
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  work that I was focused on was centered on survivors of satanic
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  ritual abuse and, and, and the government projects.
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  And so I began as a researcher. And you know, Gonzo's a
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  researcher, Basil's a researcher, the Hagmanns were
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  researcher, Steve Quayle was a researcher.
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  Like, you know, and there's other characters that were part
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  of the, the conference that we met at subsequent events.
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  You know, I, I had some overlap with Doug HAMP.
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  I had some overlap with Rob Skiba.
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  Rob Skiba has since passed away. And, you know, I think a lot of
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  that those connections were centered on the Nephilim and
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  trying to explore that and how that affects our view of Bible
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  prophecy in light of current events.
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  And, and, and, you know, there was this acknowledgement almost
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  like a tip of the hat to the secret programs as an MK Ultra.
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  And how did those projects weave into all of these things?
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  And, you know, I mean, we were all terrified that Obama might
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  be the Antichrist, like guilt because, you know, we were when
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  we met, he was, you know, in his second term.
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  And it's just like, is he going to blow up the world?
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  Who knows? Because I knew several people
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  that thought he would. And anyway, so it was a
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  different time. You know, before 2012, people
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  didn't even like anywhere I went, people were like Nephilim,
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  you know, like you are a heretic for even suggesting that that's
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  not just the sons of Cain that are normal people marrying the
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  daughters of Seth that are normal people and having normal
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  kids that just have a sin problem.
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  And, you know, there was a lot of agreement on like, well, we
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  got to break that now. That sounds like such an
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  ancient, like, why would we waste our time arguing that
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  point? Like, who even cares?
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  And we all agree like the Nephilim or giants, like tell us
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  what's next, you know, tell us about the AI.
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  Why are you wasting dance time talking about like what we could
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  get in there? I'm just kidding.
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  So, you know, But you know, from that point, I, I know that for
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  me, we got pulled so deep into helping survivors that that just
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  became our focus. And then, you know, I had to
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  build a church and then we, we had to build a school and then
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  we had to start training people. You know, I've trained over 60
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  people to do the deliverance work and inner healing work that
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  I did. So we became specialists in that
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  vein. And as far as formal research, a
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  lot of my research came in response to the things that I
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  was learning on the front lines of helping people.
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  And that focus just went that direction.
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  So I don't know I I'm actually interested to hear what Basil's
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  journey's been like. Yeah, no, actually that's thank
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  you for telling me that. That's very interesting.
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  I mention it so often and I don't know if people are just
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  tired of hearing it or if it even matters.
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  But you know, it's weird to be so long in a space or an
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  industry that like you are the old fogey who can remember when.
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  Yeah, focusing on Nephilim and kind of these weird things.
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  It was wasn't just a normal, I mean, at this point mainstream
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  talking point. Like it's weird.
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  The the online podcast video thing now is you talk about
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  something, you're you're probably not the first person to
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  talk about it at all. You know, if you want to hear
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  about Nephilim, you know, there's a hundred different
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  communities with 1000 different podcasters and within this sort
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  of ranked hierarchy of bigness, you know, coming all the way
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  down. But when we started 2012, I
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  mean, we had the end of the Mayan calendar, end of the
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  world. We had the you know, everybody
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  thought aliens were going to be coming out during the Olympic
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  halftime show. Yeah, Obama, you know, it, it
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  was really this time where I think the the majority of I got,
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  I guess the foundation was being laid there on that and for
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  myself, guns, Dan, I mean, go to Derek Gilbert, Sharon Gilbert,
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  like you said, Dan, Doug HAMP, Rob Skiba.
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  It was really just one core group.
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  There was nobody, like, at least on the Internet, making content
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  available in this new weird thing called podcasting that's
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  there forever and you can share with your friends.
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  Like even the technology itself was just new.
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  You had to tell people you did Internet radio.
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  Nobody knew what a podcast was. And, you know, I look back, I
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  was really young at the time and I think I really took for
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  granted that I was surrounded with people who are doing really
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  good work. And we had a, a growing core
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  listenership, many of whom are still with us today.
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  You know, children have been raised on my voice, you know,
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  over the last 10 years, 12 years.
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  And I look back, I'm like, man, I was really young.
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  If I knew what I know today, I would have taken it so much more
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  seriously. I would have, you know, because
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  I was in my early 20s and I was just trying to, you know, figure
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  life out and doing podcasts and, and diving in in this research
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  was a very strange thing for somebody my age to be doing
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  Canary Cry Radio, our primary show that really is responsible
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  for everything. It only has 180 something
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  episodes. You know, we would go like
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  months without putting out an episode.
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  And there was no, there was not this whole ecosystem of people
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  creating this content that we could go a month, two months
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  without putting out an episode and people would be back.
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  You know, would, would, would love it.
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  You know, they would be waiting for it.
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  They would appreciate it. They would be because there
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  wasn't so much more out there. Knowing what I know now, I
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  probably would have buckled in and gotten serious a little bit
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  earlier. But similar to how you're you,
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  you kind of focused in on your work in the ministry, which you
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  know, again, I think that's it's incredible.
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  And essentially anybody, I think from our generation at that
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  point ended up kind of focusing in on whatever their thing was.
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  For us, it was around 2016 and we came to this place like, OK,
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  we've, we were some of the first podcasters that the Flat Earth
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  people came to. And, you know, even it was weird
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  for us. Even it's weird to imagine a
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  time that Flat Earth wasn't like a very common weird thing for
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  people to be super into. But we were one of the first
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  podcast to just kind of be like, huh, weird.
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  Some people actually think the Earth is flat.
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  Let's see what they have to say. And so we had collected this
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  broad range of really fringe, fringe research.
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  And in 2015 or 16, that's when we.
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  Thought, you know, this is all good and fun and wild and you
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  know, we're, we're so happy to see where God has brought this.
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  But then we started news talk because we're like, all right,
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  what is the practical purpose of knowing all this stuff?
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  Like what does that mean? Is it just entertainment?
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  Is it just a, a weird club to be in?
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  What does this have to do, you know, really with any practical,
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  you know, practical application in our lives?
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  And that's when we started taking the news of the day and
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  putting it through this lens that we had developed over at
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  that point, you know, 4-5 years and focusing in on, hey, our
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  work now is going to be finding together and applying this
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  knowledge base that, you know, people continue to get
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  interested in. But what does it have to do with
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  our daily lives? How do we go through our day?
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  How does it affect our faith? How's it how does it affect our,
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  you know, interaction with the economy or interaction with
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  politics? And so it really in a way, it
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  was just a way for us to apply this weird fringe, you know,
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  knowledge base and personal relationships with great
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  researchers like Dan. And what does that mean for us
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  on a daily basis? How has this changed our
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  perception as we just walk around, go to work and do stuff
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  like that? And so news talk sort of just
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  develops from there. And of course, moving to the
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  long, you know, the Super long format three times a week at
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  COVID just because we had the time.
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  And that's just kind of what transformed our community into
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  what it is today. And so I kind of consider that,
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  you know, the Lord you, I kind of imagine it like the Lord had
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  a magnifying glass on us, you know, watching and observing and
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  and blessing us in so many ways. But then 2020, when we started
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  really doing what we do now, he had sort of maybe adjusted the
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  magnifying glass and suddenly there was a beam of light that
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  was like striking us that really, I guess literally or
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  metaphorically really lit a fire under us to take it to, you
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  know, this is this. Shouldn't, you know, this
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  worldview, this collection of, of, of, I don't know, weird
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  explorations of life in the Bible and faith and history and
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  the things in the shadows going on today, you know, really
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  should have some sort of applicable, I don't know, angle
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  to it. And so that's, you know, when it
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  really was around there that we calmed it down a little bit on
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  the interviews. If I could go back, I probably
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  wouldn't have calmed down on the interviews and we would have
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  been talking with Dan Duvall, you know, at least a couple
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  times a year because at the same time, you know, he's doing very
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  important work. So that's a little bit of
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  history, I guess. Thanks for the opportunity to
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  kind of speak through that, that history in in a time and place
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  that I'm allowed to instead of me trying to slip it in to a
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  broadcast or something when it has no applicable value at all.
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  So thank you for that opportunity, Ron.
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  Absolutely. Well, you guys are uncovering
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  what you have now coined Dan as the false reality overlay back
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  in 2012, 2013. It's like we were it was being
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  mapped without us knowing it, right?
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  We were starting to see how what we always subscribed reality to
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  was in fact a simulation, for lack of a better word.
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  And Baz, where you went into talking about it and unpacking
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  it and having these conversations that were fringe
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  but then became normal. You said, where's the practical
• 24:27
  application of this? That that was a question in your
• 24:29
  head. And then I'm looking over at Dan
• 24:30
  like, but that was Dan was doing the practical application of
• 24:34
  this in your ministry, which is taking people out of the false
• 24:39
  reality overlay and subscribing them back.
• 24:41
  Their humanity, their purpose, their essence, their scroll,
• 24:45
  their timeline, all those things.
• 24:46
  Because the reason why that false reality overlay keeps
• 24:50
  working is because of how much humanity is hinged into it.
• 24:54
  Like a super pattery pack just powering up the Kingdom of
• 24:58
  darkness. And Dan's over here like, we're
• 24:59
  not doing that anymore. And that's what the Holy Spirit
• 25:02
  came in. And that is the practical
• 25:03
  application. And I really don't see them as
• 25:05
  very different, right? It's like you, you have a map
• 25:09
  and then you, you follow the map and you apply it to what you're
• 25:12
  doing. And that's the relationship that
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  I'm seeing between the two of you, which is so profound.
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  And only God, one wise God, could draw this connection,
• 25:20
  follow this red thread through time and space and people and
• 25:25
  jurisdictions and all these things to make something so
• 25:28
  powerful as the restoration of humanity to his original
• 25:32
  intention. The understanding that's
• 25:34
  required for that, the application, the wisdom, the
• 25:37
  prayer, the language, the spiritual mechanics is just it's
• 25:41
  life changing, it's globally changing.
• 25:43
  It's cosmically revolutionary. Wow.
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  It's good. It's just such a beautiful thing
• 25:51
  to see how the Lord weaves us together.
• 25:54
  Well, when we zoom out, that's exactly what's happening and
• 25:58
  that's what I was moved to with this opportunity because I have
• 26:02
  so much respect and just love for both of your content, Dan
• 26:06
  and Basil and and shout out to Dan.
• 26:08
  So hopefully we get locked in with him here here soon to kind
• 26:12
  of come in and dovetail a little bit of it organically with
• 26:17
  capturing growth journeys and and asking serious questions.
• 26:20
  Like I tell people, I don't take this lightly, like this isn't
• 26:23
  just something fun for me. I've done this in the gutter
• 26:26
  through hardship deprivations, through literally some really
• 26:29
  rough things that I won't talk about detail wise that has tried
• 26:33
  to hinder me from even having the opportunity to sit before
• 26:36
  two people that I honor and and see that reconnection come.
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  There's a cost, but there's also a beauty in starting to see how
• 26:45
  God is using a a multi layered reality of his intention.
• 26:51
  You've been sent in with a purpose and we just get little
• 26:55
  glimmers at seeing how there's this interconnectivity that's
• 26:58
  encouraging the crossroads of of now are just as important as
• 27:04
  they were 10 years ago to what's going to be birthed in the next
• 27:09
  phase of what God has up his sleeve.
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  So Dan, I want to ask with everything that's going on right
• 27:15
  now, with everything that you've discovered over the course of
• 27:20
  your journey and what God, the wheelhouse he has you in.
• 27:24
  What is the most important thing for us to be focusing and
• 27:27
  getting a hold of as a body, not just as a podcaster, as a a
• 27:32
  ministry, but like as the body of Christ.
• 27:35
  Let let's open up some some deep understandings here please.
• 27:41
  The most important thing, well, look, I I think that's in in
• 27:48
  some ways that's an easy question.
• 27:49
  In some ways that's a really hard, laborious, taxing and deep
• 27:54
  question to answer. So the easy side for such a time
• 27:58
  as this, I don't think God made an accident in sending the
• 28:07
  generation that's alive on earth today and serving him.
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  I, I, I, I think there was a lot of intent around those that he
• 28:16
  sent in and the, IT, it like it's about him and it's about
• 28:21
  his Kingdom. You know, it's a big, big shift
• 28:25
  when you realize that the Bible, it actually isn't all about man.
• 28:29
  It's actually all about Christ that, you know, and we, I think
• 28:33
  that when we make Christianity all about man, we, we actually
• 28:39
  get confused as to what the meta narrative is.
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  It's all about Christ. It's all about Jesus and someday
• 28:45
  that he is accomplishing through man on behalf of his creation.
• 28:50
  And so the way that I look at it, that that's where we're at
• 28:53
  right now. We are at possibly one of the
• 28:56
  most important generations to walk the earth since the time of
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  Christ. You know, you have the people
• 29:04
  that the church age began with and then we're sitting at the
• 29:08
  Nexus point of I think the end of the age.
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  I, I, I think that, you know, most people can look at the
• 29:17
  direction of everything that's happening and say, wow, this is
• 29:20
  for, for so many reasons. And, and I think one of the big
• 29:23
  ones is the artificial intelligence conversation.
• 29:25
  I think the artificial intelligence conversation
• 29:27
  actually puts us, really, really, truly locks us in to a
• 29:32
  timeline at, at this juncture. But you know, then we could add
• 29:35
  on top of that the Jesuit agenda and the underground military
• 29:39
  base agenda and all of the connections through these
• 29:43
  crypto, these creatures that like all of this invasion of our
• 29:53
  reality, so to speak, like at, at, at ever exacerbated
• 29:57
  quantities. Now it, it, it points to
• 29:59
  something that is very significant for their for, for
• 30:03
  world history. I, I mean, and, and I, I think
• 30:07
  it's pointing towards the end of the age.
• 30:08
  So, so the generation is carrying this torch was I think
• 30:12
  selected and our primary is to look to Jesus for our purpose at
• 30:18
  this time. Yeah, Amen.
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  You really touched on something that I was just recently going
• 30:25
  on about. I think it was yesterday on
• 30:27
  Clubhouse and before that, you know getting some time to rant
• 30:32
  on Rod's show as well. This been doing some extra air
• 30:36
  time has really been developing my own emphasis on the important
• 30:41
  syllables. And Gans did a mini documentary
• 30:45
  on Jesus as the veil yesterday. And so we talked a lot about the
• 30:50
  veil and veils and what this means and how applicable this is
• 30:55
  sort of across the board. And when I look at what's
• 30:59
  happening in the world as a whole, not just in current
• 31:02
  events but in people, when you tell the story of the
• 31:07
  crucifixion of Christ, the story's told.
• 31:11
  He's nailed to the cross, He's stabbed with a spear and raises
• 31:18
  3 days later. And what is not usually told in
• 31:22
  that, you know, in that telling of the gospel is he's stabbed
• 31:27
  with a spear, He gives up his spirit, dead people come to
• 31:33
  life, earthquake happens, the veil is torn in the temple.
• 31:40
  And you know, it's it kind of seems often, I think as just
• 31:43
  sort of supernatural details that are kind of skipped over
• 31:47
  for the emphasis on salvation. And whatever gets you to
• 31:52
  salvation is great. Not criticizing that, but
• 31:56
  happening in the exact same moment as the contract shifting,
• 32:03
  paradigm shifting events in the history of man's relationship
• 32:08
  with the eternal God as Christ dies on the cross.
• 32:13
  The veil also tears. I think in a way what we're also
• 32:21
  seeing right now, what I could, what I see when I look at the
• 32:25
  broad population level movements and trends that are going on is
• 32:29
  there is another veil sort of tearing on mass population
• 32:35
  level. People are waking up to the
• 32:38
  loosery overlay of what they once thought was reality.
• 32:43
  These sort of unimaginable control over their perception of
• 32:47
  reality so deep and so perfected that the idea that what they're,
• 32:53
  you know, hearing on the news or or whatever, they're down to the
• 32:57
  very words that are controlled, the language that's controlled,
• 33:02
  that dictates the way that their brain even, you know, reads
• 33:06
  colors in the world. There's this veil tearing in
• 33:10
  another way, and much like back at the crucifixion of Christ,
• 33:15
  that veil tearing wasn't just crazy supernatural event because
• 33:20
  the veil was 4 inches thick and nobody could have torn it.
• 33:23
  So it was a show of God, but it was also the destruction of
• 33:29
  humanity's observation of what was real at the time.
• 33:35
  It was the destruction of their entire mind's model of what
• 33:41
  reality was. Meaning there's the holies of
• 33:44
  holies, and God is in there, and we're out here and we can't go
• 33:48
  past the veil because that is where God is.
• 33:51
  And the veil is also protecting us from the overwhelming, you
• 33:55
  know, destructive power of the creator of the universe.
• 33:57
  So this veil not only is separating God from man, but the
• 34:06
  veil is also protecting man from God.
• 34:17
  But the veil is also protecting man from God.
• 34:43
  And this was reality at the time this everybody would have known
• 34:47
  this everybody would have based their entire understanding of
• 34:51
  the universe on this fact. And when the veil tears and
• 34:58
  suddenly there's no separation between what they, you know,
• 35:04
  they, they before the veil tears, you know, they're
• 35:07
  basically imagining Indiana Jones in the Ark of the
• 35:11
  Covenant, like level face melting, God's power rushing
• 35:17
  into humanity and, you know, humans not able to handle it and
• 35:22
  this sort of thing. But when the veil tears,
• 35:25
  suddenly I think, OK, that's a pretty drastic event.
• 35:29
  And not only is that, you know, I mean, talk about a bunch of
• 35:33
  dead people getting up and walking around at the same time,
• 35:36
  this is an absolute reality shattering event for humanity at
• 35:42
  the time. And in the same way we have a
• 35:46
  reality shattering event going on right now on some level,
• 35:50
  which is everybody is now aware. I'm saying everybody has a
• 35:55
  generalization. There are those who are not
• 35:58
  aware. And that's very sad and
• 35:59
  frustrating. But mass population is becoming
• 36:03
  aware of like, oh, my very concept of reality has been
• 36:08
  crafted by a bunch of establishment, you know,
• 36:11
  magicians who control the words that I use, who control the
• 36:14
  information that gets to me. Look at this.
• 36:17
  I can list, you know, 100 points in history that I thought really
• 36:24
  dictated what reality was around me, both from, you know, past
• 36:28
  history all the way now to yesterday's current events that
• 36:33
  didn't happen the way that I was told.
• 36:35
  And you have this, you have this traumatic event going on, which
• 36:42
  is more and more people going what even what, what is even is
• 36:47
  real? What even is happening?
• 36:50
  What even is, you know, I've been lied to in a way that I
• 36:55
  used to make fun of people for insinuating those tinfoil
• 36:59
  Hatters. And just like the the veil
• 37:02
  tearing at Christ's crucifixion, the reason that humanity was not
• 37:06
  destroyed by that was because Jesus and his death and his
• 37:12
  sacrifice became the new veil in a way.
• 37:17
  It became the mediating force between man and God, not only,
• 37:23
  you know, giving us a portal and access to God in a way that
• 37:28
  nobody had had before, but also a new sort of protective layer
• 37:34
  between the raw, unfiltered cosmic majesty of the creator of
• 37:38
  the universe and man. And that's, you know, if, who
• 37:43
  knows if the veil would have torn before Jesus had taken that
• 37:47
  role. Who knows would have happened.
• 37:49
  Maybe that would have been the end of, you know, humanity.
• 37:51
  We don't know. But if it weren't for Christ
• 37:54
  taking that place at the exact moment, establishing,
• 38:01
  establishing a new ground of understanding for reality, the
• 38:07
  universe and everything, meaning our connection to God, our
• 38:12
  connection to ultimate reality. Thank God we have this new thing
• 38:18
  which is Christ, because the veil just tore and who knows
• 38:22
  what would have happened. And so nowadays we have this
• 38:25
  veil tearing people. People's understanding of
• 38:28
  reality is totally getting thrown out the window.
• 38:32
  And what we're seeing is a mass movement on a population level.
• 38:39
  And we can criticize it and we can pick it apart and we can
• 38:42
  find all the things we don't like about it.
• 38:45
  But we are seeing an unprecedented movement towards
• 38:50
  Christ, not just on, you know, Gen.
• 38:53
  Z is the most traditional generation ever.
• 38:57
  They're turning to religion. They're going to church.
• 39:00
  And in numbers that no generation has ever seen.
• 39:03
  You know, this whole thing you've got, I mean, the big one
• 39:06
  recently was it just came out that Joe Rogan is regularly
• 39:11
  attending church. And he's very consistent and
• 39:14
  real about this, you know, this sort of social cultural power.
• 39:19
  You could arguably say Joe Rogan has something like the most
• 39:23
  powerful, you know, socio cultural position of anybody
• 39:31
  else, maybe besides the president or something like
• 39:33
  that. And for him, excuse me up here
• 39:36
  we go. For him to be sort of publicly
• 39:41
  moving in the direction of Christ, I think is a great
• 39:45
  reflection. You know, he is famously
• 39:47
  secular, famously not Christian in the past, also famously the
• 39:51
  most popular guy who is trying to see beyond the veil, trying
• 39:55
  to be skeptical about reality, these types of things.
• 39:59
  And we're watching again that without some sort of.
• 40:05
  I mean, without Christ, honestly, without Christ, when
• 40:09
  the veil tears, it is so traumatic to an individual and
• 40:12
  to a culture that they are forced to seek out the next.
• 40:20
  I mean, not the next, but the primary ground of being, which
• 40:25
  is our relationship with God mediated through Jesus Christ.
• 40:30
  And so I think we're seeing this all the way down from the minute
• 40:33
  level all the way to the mass population level.
• 40:36
  As a millennial, I was always told always, I've been a
• 40:39
  Christian my entire life, Every second of my life I have been,
• 40:44
  you know, a Christian. And I was always told every
• 40:48
  single week that the revival's coming, the revival's coming,
• 40:53
  the revival's coming, it's going to change everything.
• 40:55
  Mass movements towards Christ is going to be amazing.
• 40:58
  And we are told that it was going to be millennials told, it
• 41:01
  was going to be my generation. That didn't quite work out the
• 41:04
  way that we were told. But it is Gen.
• 41:07
  Z and we are seeing what I was told for my whole life, a mass
• 41:15
  revival, huge movements of culture towards Christ and the
• 41:20
  fact that it is sort of orbiting around this obsession that came
• 41:28
  into my life. And, you know, 2010, 11/20/12
• 41:32
  about being skeptical about the reality that we're being fed and
• 41:37
  diving deeper into the weird, you know, crevices of what
• 41:42
  reality is. What does it look like, you
• 41:44
  know, all through a biblical lens?
• 41:46
  It's it's it's a little bit traumatic to me now to see this
• 41:50
  revival happening, at least by the numbers based around the
• 41:55
  most unexpected cultural, I don't know, tweak that any of us
• 42:02
  could have could have expected, which was this sort of to use
• 42:08
  the word, you know, conspiracy theory, fringe skeptical sort of
• 42:16
  lens leading people to Christ, but not just leading people to
• 42:21
  Christ in sort of a general evangelical way.
• 42:25
  It is people are now requiring Christ and naturally moving
• 42:31
  towards their requirements because of the tearing of the
• 42:35
  veil of what reality is and isn't.
• 42:38
  Now that's been of course long time coming and I apologize
• 42:43
  'cause I totally forgot what the question was, but that's kind of
• 42:48
  what I'm seeing happen as far as the most.
• 42:51
  I guess you asked about like what's the most important thing
• 42:53
  happening? And I think the most important
• 42:55
  thing that I see happening is as a result of the work of Dan and
• 43:00
  Skiba and people who have been sort of relegated to the weird
• 43:04
  corners, whatever spiritual ancestry that is descended as
• 43:11
  far as ideas, spirits, principalities, powers with
• 43:15
  which, you know, we, I don't, I don't feel, I think a lot of
• 43:19
  guys in our ring don't feel like they've had a whole lot to do
• 43:25
  with with what's going on in the world.
• 43:27
  But I'm just encouraged that the biggest revival that I've ever
• 43:32
  seen, and at least according to the numbers, is the biggest one
• 43:37
  in many generations, happens to be coinciding or perhaps even
• 43:42
  propelled by this passion to see past the illusion in a in a
• 43:48
  biblical way. I completely agree with what
• 43:52
  you're spelling out here, Baz. And when you were talking about
• 43:56
  the veil, it was making me think about how the veil in the temple
• 43:59
  was of separating force. But the veil that is Christ, as
• 44:03
  you illustrated it, is a magnetizing force for the
• 44:08
  Father, for life, for recovery, for reconciliation.
• 44:14
  And and as you were talking about revival, it made me think
• 44:17
  about how we are, we are in a revival.
• 44:21
  The reason why it's so hard to identify is because it's not
• 44:24
  happening inside the predictable metric bearing 4 walls of the
• 44:29
  First Baptist Church on Main Street.
• 44:31
  As Dan likes to say, it's because it's happening in the
• 44:34
  broken places of our soul. But we realize the only way to
• 44:37
  untangle ourselves from any of this is by being completely
• 44:41
  naked before God and recognizing that He has no obligation to us
• 44:45
  to fit inside our intellectual box.
• 44:48
  None. And that's why revival is
• 44:51
  happening, because people are coming to the point where
• 44:53
  they're looking out at the world and they say, I cannot overcome
• 44:56
  this by the faculties of my own creativity, by what is presented
• 45:02
  to me in the evangelical Main St. mainstream Western
• 45:06
  Christianity, corporate American church.
• 45:08
  I can't. So what do I have?
• 45:11
  I have Christ crucified. And just like you were saying,
• 45:13
  Dan, that is the foundation of everything.
• 45:16
  This isn't about us. It is to an extent, right.
• 45:22
  But if we become self focused in these things, we end up making
• 45:26
  religions. We end up making formulas.
• 45:30
  We end up doing metrics in Church of how many people raise
• 45:33
  their hand to receive Christ and go back to the same mess that
• 45:36
  happened to them yesterday because there's no victory.
• 45:39
  Why? Because there's no actual
• 45:41
  relationship that's happening, and that is revival.
• 45:44
  We are in a revival because there are countless people who
• 45:50
  are sitting at the feet of Jesus day after day after day.
• 45:54
  They don't care if anybody ever finds their name.
• 45:57
  They don't care if they publish a book, they just want to be
• 46:01
  seen and known by Him in the places that they had been afraid
• 46:05
  to open the door to. And that, friends, is revival
• 46:08
  because it's powering down the Kingdom of darkness by virtue of
• 46:12
  our liberty, by the expression of Christ in US.
• 46:17
  And it doesn't have a stage. And that's OK, because trust and
• 46:21
  believe when this pot of righteousness boils over, the
• 46:25
  whole world is going to know. It's going to know is not it.
• 46:29
  The whole world is filled with this glory as the water covers
• 46:32
  the sea. That's what's coming out of the
• 46:34
  gate of humanity. Goodness gracious.
• 46:39
  One of the things that has really been part of my my, my
• 46:43
  piece is I got pulled out of the, the, the research world,
• 46:49
  right? And, and God really stationed me
• 46:53
  on the front lines of contending with the powers of darkness as a
• 46:59
  job description. He's like, OK, you said yes to
• 47:01
  this, yes to this, yes to this. Now, now, that's great what you
• 47:05
  did. That's cute.
• 47:06
  You know, you wrote a book about wounded by leadership.
• 47:08
  We don't care about that. Like what we really care about
• 47:10
  is what you were created to do, which is contend and, and, and
• 47:15
  contend for What I'm realizing now is the Army, the, the Army
• 47:24
  of God manifested through his people.
• 47:27
  And a a lot of the, the people that are called to that army
• 47:30
  and, and, and take up arms literally against the emergence
• 47:34
  of Antichrist Kingdom are the survivors.
• 47:36
  Like they, the ones that were recruited and already activated
• 47:41
  as super soldiers, as slaves, as puppets are, are, are, are being
• 47:48
  delivered out and then recruited and released into God's army to
• 47:53
  be the ones that take down I, I mean, and, and take on some of
• 47:59
  the greatest and most radical evil the surface world has ever
• 48:02
  seen. So, so I got, I got plopped
• 48:05
  right at the front line and it's like, you know, you got to
• 48:06
  contend with all of this. And, and we did, I mean, you
• 48:09
  know, we could, we could go into a lot of stories about that.
• 48:11
  But part, part of my journey in that was, was, was visionary.
• 48:15
  It's, you know, when I go into prayer time, the Lord will show
• 48:18
  me things and, and it that helps me to fix my, my personal
• 48:22
  spiritual compass to what Jesus is doing.
• 48:24
  And one of those times I was in prayer and and I did I I saw it
• 48:30
  was like this massive battlefield and there was a few
• 48:32
  people standing on a hill and they were looking at it and it
• 48:34
  was a hybrid army and they and they had anti gravity craft and
• 48:38
  it was creatures. And I'm sure Bigfoot was in
• 48:40
  there somewhere, maybe a few Yeti right dog man, I'll just
• 48:44
  but but like, I think these were definite hybrid, like it was not
• 48:48
  human. I was I was looking at this
• 48:50
  army. I'm looking at this technology,
• 48:52
  I'm looking at this weapon. It's like, OK, that was probably
• 48:55
  built on Mars And it's like a dark clouds over moving on.
• 49:01
  And these people that are sitting on a hill, they
• 49:05
  essentially begin to go into prayer or decrees or whatever in
• 49:10
  the name of Jesus. And then I'm like looking back
• 49:14
  over at the, the whole army and the whole army is literally just
• 49:19
  brought to its knees. They can't move, they can't
• 49:24
  fight, they can't do a thing. And it's reminiscent of some of
• 49:30
  the stories we see in the Bible where it's like God sent the
• 49:32
  worshippers out first and then the enemy armies scatter.
• 49:35
  God sent the Angel, the Lord out and he killed 10s of thousands
• 49:39
  of men. Like they just died, you know,
• 49:41
  and, and be like, but I'm seeing this and it's like, look, these
• 49:44
  are the kinds of people I am raising up in the last days.
• 49:47
  Like, like they think they're doing all this stuff.
• 49:49
  They think they're building their hybrid army in the
• 49:51
  underground bases. They think they have this, you
• 49:53
  know, thing locked down because they got this secret space
• 49:56
  program running and they, they're, they're going to bring
• 49:58
  in all this stuff. And it's like they have no idea
• 49:59
  the snare that God is setting up by bringing his army online.
• 50:04
  And so, you know, part of my job became to create the pathway
• 50:12
  because I'll tell you, coming out from a background of, of
• 50:16
  super soldier programming, MK Ultra, satanic ritual abuse,
• 50:21
  outright mind control, like it is hard.
• 50:24
  It is hard to break with that kind of trauma and step into
• 50:28
  full identity in Christ. I mean, it's like a, they think
• 50:32
  on the Kingdom of darkness. It's impossible.
• 50:33
  They, they thought they had perfected their, their approach
• 50:37
  to this thing and there was no hope.
• 50:38
  No one's going to figure this out.
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  Well, Jesus did. And he, he's been nugget
• 50:43
  dropping this thing the whole time.
• 50:44
  And we have seen, I mean, the most extraordinary
• 50:47
  transformations over the years for, for, for thousands of
• 50:50
  people. And it has been wrought with
• 50:52
  opposition. I mean, every time I turn
• 50:54
  around, they do the stupidest stuff.
• 50:56
  I mean, if I told you some of this stuff they do to try to
• 50:59
  shut us down or, or, or, or mess with ourselves, I mean, the, the
• 51:03
  level of witchcraft targeting. And I, I, I mean, you know, not
• 51:06
  everybody can say this, but I can.
• 51:07
  Like I, I don't even, I don't even know how many infants have
• 51:11
  been sacrificed on the altars of stop ride ministries, but many,
• 51:15
  many have. And I, I wouldn't be surprised
• 51:18
  to find out it's in the thousands at this point because
• 51:20
  they, they, they have, you know, a major assignment against
• 51:23
  stopping. It's not about me.
• 51:25
  It's, it's about the army that God is liberating for such a
• 51:29
  time and space. And you have listeners and they
• 51:33
  know they're called in this army and they know they are put here
• 51:36
  because God put something on the inside of it and says, you know,
• 51:40
  beast Kingdom, I'm not here for it.
• 51:43
  I am the resistance. So yeah, there, there it is.
• 51:49
  Man, that is so good. Talk about multi layered
• 51:52
  encouragement. Yeah, yeah, this is, it's still
• 51:57
  blowing my mind to have you and Basil here at the same time.
• 52:01
  And if I can backtrack a little bit for the sake of launching
• 52:05
  even deeper into where we're heading, when you were talking
• 52:09
  about what you had the the path that you were getting laid out,
• 52:13
  right? You're being led by the spirit
• 52:15
  and you're kind of laying out this track at the same time, you
• 52:18
  see with Basil and Gonz, like synchronizing with what's going
• 52:23
  on and adding in this, this layer of biblical filter to to
• 52:27
  the masses through a news analysis, news breakdown, almost
• 52:31
  like a Kingdom news agency. That was like the resistance to
• 52:35
  the overwhelming messages out in the airwaves.
• 52:39
  And now those two are kind of marrying in the moments of the
• 52:43
  listeners across across the board here with not only did God
• 52:49
  send in, you know, Basil and Gans with with a very specific
• 52:54
  agenda in mind. Little did they know they would
• 52:56
  they would stumble into what they were doing.
• 52:59
  If you would have asked them that five years old, What do you
• 53:01
  want to do when they grow up? They wouldn't have probably came
• 53:04
  close to what they're doing now, but they are.
• 53:08
  And now we're at a crossroad of listeners abroad who may need to
• 53:14
  start walking in the the rank or the file of this heaven's army,
• 53:21
  the army of volunteers that has been laid with a trajectory
• 53:26
  heaven sent from what Dan has brought forward.
• 53:30
  It's like here we are. It's like we're doing this
• 53:34
  thing, you guys. I'm just going to pass it to
• 53:37
  whoever feels led by the Spirit to continue because this is more
• 53:41
  powerful than I than I had originally imagined.
• 53:45
  I've said this a few times with you on Air Rod, and I say it
• 53:51
  pretty much as often as I can, but I had a strange couple
• 53:56
  years, pretty traumatic couple years.
• 53:58
  And then moving in to 2025 just really was laden heavily by the
• 54:08
  Holy Spirit and really some really unexplained.
• 54:14
  I mean, if there's been moments in my life where I'm overcome by
• 54:19
  a feeling that is sort of unexplainable, and then in the
• 54:24
  supernatural way, you know, a lot of times when it comes to
• 54:30
  Holy Spirit communications, it's if you're like me, sometimes it
• 54:34
  doesn't make any sense until after the fact.
• 54:37
  But when we transition into this 2025 year, first the year, but
• 54:44
  also the start of the new presidency, also what seems to
• 54:48
  be a transition in world powers, what seems to be a transition in
• 54:53
  some sort of spiritual warfare, you know, principalities and
• 54:59
  powers, you know, even going down to, you know, this shift in
• 55:04
  the papacy of the Vatican to this, you know, everything seems
• 55:10
  to be in this transitional period that we really don't have
• 55:15
  a whole lot of foundation for or, you know, it's been a long
• 55:20
  time. It's I have never lived through
• 55:24
  a shift that can both be spotted in politics and culture, in the
• 55:30
  principalities and powers, in the supernatural realm.
• 55:34
  Just everything is we are sort of passing this point of where
• 55:42
  experience can inform our reaction.
• 55:46
  And when the clock struck midnight on 2025, I was just
• 55:52
  over, I mean, really laden with this heaviness about the time
• 55:57
  that we have. I can't say that it's, you know,
• 56:00
  timing that we have until Jesus comes back or timing that we
• 56:03
  have until I can't really pinpoint what it is.
• 56:07
  But once the clock struck 12, I mean, the Holy Spirit was clear
• 56:10
  as day that like 365 days from now, the world is going to be an
• 56:15
  entirely different place. None of the assumptions that we
• 56:19
  make about our world, about reality, from the trippy stuff
• 56:24
  to the practical stuff, you know, our models, our models are
• 56:29
  going to get less and less useful as we get closer to 2026.
• 56:34
  And the reality is, at least what was impressed upon my heart
• 56:39
  harder than I could, you know, describe was that, yeah, we
• 56:43
  pretty much have about 365 days until think.
• 56:47
  Everything is totally different. And for me, I know I went years
• 56:53
  thinking or even knowing that I was supposed to be doing
• 56:57
  something. Maybe I didn't know what it was.
• 56:59
  Maybe I just felt like I had some sort of role to play.
• 57:02
  Maybe I had some project or some ministry that seems like, oh,
• 57:08
  that'd be a fun thing to do or that'd be a fulfilling thing to
• 57:12
  do or whatever. But it got impressed upon my
• 57:17
  heart and I cannot stop really saying it to as many people
• 57:20
  public publicly as I can. Whatever it is that God's laid
• 57:24
  on your heart, now is the time to do it.
• 57:27
  It's right now because you're going to have a hard time even
• 57:32
  figuring out what is going on in the world in the next 365 days.
• 57:39
  You know if if you're your heart's desire for how to serve
• 57:43
  the Lord, if your vision for a future or whatever that calling
• 57:48
  is right now, it's based on how the world is right now that
• 57:54
  informs everything about your your the way you think about
• 57:59
  your calling. And now is just the time to
• 58:02
  start doing it. And of course, for for a lot of
• 58:06
  our people, for a lot of people in general, you know, that might
• 58:09
  look like starting a podcast. It might look like, you know,
• 58:13
  doing a sub stack or whatever. You know, everybody's got their
• 58:16
  own thing. Maybe it's more boots on the
• 58:18
  ground focus like Dan, you know, there's some calling, some
• 58:21
  ministry that the Lord is equipping and calling you to.
• 58:26
  Maybe it's just getting involved with something that already
• 58:30
  you're passionate about. Maybe it's getting involved with
• 58:34
  Millennial Mustard Seed. Maybe it's involved with
• 58:36
  getting, you know, getting involved with a ministry in your
• 58:40
  town, you know, but now is the time to do it.
• 58:42
  Now is the time to reach out. Now is the time to start doing
• 58:46
  that. The the enemy has laid many
• 58:49
  snares. He's laid many snares
• 58:51
  politically. He's laid many snares
• 58:53
  economically. You know, the the uncertainty of
• 58:56
  today's world is is by design. It's not an accident.
• 59:00
  The entire battlefield is laden with booby traps.
• 59:05
  And these booby traps, maybe they're not meant to kill, steal
• 59:09
  and destroy every time. Maybe they're just there to turn
• 59:13
  your attention. Maybe they're just there to make
• 59:16
  you focus on some other concern, whether it's a worldly concern
• 59:22
  or relational concern. I don't know what it is.
• 59:25
  But the, you know, the enemy has had control of the battlefield
• 59:29
  for a long time. And when things start to shift,
• 59:33
  when things start to slip, when things start to change, it's
• 59:37
  moments like this that those snares were constructed for.
• 59:43
  So I don't know really what that means for any individual out
• 59:45
  there certainly feel called the hammer at home as often as
• 59:49
  possible that now is the time to do the thing, whatever the thing
• 59:53
  was. If you don't even have a full
• 59:56
  picture of it, just take the first step.
• 59:58
  You know, you're you have a Lantern that shines just as far
• 1:00:03
  to see the next stepping stone in the path that you're meant to
• 1:00:07
  walk. And so even if you can only see
• 1:00:10
  one step ahead, take a step. And if you don't know where the
• 1:00:14
  whole path is going, that's OK. You know, God's God wouldn't
• 1:00:18
  have you move in that direction if you didn't have a plan.
• 1:00:22
  And don't, don't let uncertainty.
• 1:00:24
  There's a lot of there's infinite amounts of things to be
• 1:00:28
  uncertain about in the world today on the micro scale, on the
• 1:00:33
  meta scale, on the macro scale. But uncertainty is what faith is
• 1:00:40
  for. That is, you know, the the faith
• 1:00:45
  is the answer, the weapon against uncertainty.
• 1:00:49
  But uncertainty is a snare also. Dan, I want to ask you a
• 1:00:55
  question that fits in with all of this.
• 1:00:57
  Yep, As the wakening happens, how do you see an explosion of
• 1:01:04
  God sending into Heaven's armies getting in alignment with this?
• 1:01:10
  I mean, you speak about false reality overlay, you know, quite
• 1:01:12
  frequently and that breaking down in that transition of kind
• 1:01:17
  of coming out of these, these falsehoods.
• 1:01:20
  Can you speak to the the, the things that may need to be heard
• 1:01:24
  right now in regards to Heaven's armies coming in alignment and
• 1:01:28
  cross pollinations of all these things starting to brew and
• 1:01:33
  bubble over? What does your mind do with
• 1:01:34
  that? OK, so there's a few layers on
• 1:01:37
  this and this one question could be its own podcast in my
• 1:01:43
  opinion, or a whole conference, because it's huge.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's really big, All right?
• 1:01:49
  At least from where I sit. But I, I'm going to give you a,
• 1:01:52
  a, a short list of some thoughts that I have on that.
• 1:01:58
  So, so, so #1 and, and this is where I, I see a lot of things
• 1:02:02
  starting, you know, I mean, I wrote my first book back in
• 1:02:04
  2010, you know, there was a lot of a number of people that
• 1:02:09
  really started talking about Nephilim and hybrids and
• 1:02:14
  programming and Satanic ritual. There's a lot of crossover
• 1:02:17
  between those worlds, by the way, because people that are the
• 1:02:19
  Satanic ritual abuse survivors are the ones that are most
• 1:02:21
  likely to have had encounters with the hybrids and the
• 1:02:25
  entities, especially in the underground labs, etcetera.
• 1:02:27
  But you know that, so that crossover is real, but you know,
• 1:02:32
  to even talk about it puts a different frequency in the
• 1:02:35
  atmosphere and it begins a conversation.
• 1:02:38
  And even if that conversation is only happening between two
• 1:02:41
  people's ears, that's a conversation that's happened,
• 1:02:44
  that's a mind that's being or in the process of being unlocked.
• 1:02:48
  So there's a whole aspect of that, this conversation that
• 1:02:52
  happens with disclosure with a, a group of people that are not
• 1:02:57
  afraid to have a conversation that breaks with the mainstream
• 1:03:03
  narrative and that that begins a, a dismantling of the false
• 1:03:09
  reality overlay. Now the false reality overlay,
• 1:03:11
  the way that I see it is the reinforcement mechanism to
• 1:03:15
  assure success for the manipulators of society.
• 1:03:20
  Because like, like they say, you know who writes the history
• 1:03:22
  books? The victors and the people that
• 1:03:25
  have been winning a lot of the victories up until this time in
• 1:03:28
  history have been the Illuminati, OK.
• 1:03:30
  And, and, and it's, it's, it's been the Freemasons and these
• 1:03:34
  groups. And so they, they get to write
• 1:03:36
  the history books and tell us where we came from, who we are
• 1:03:39
  and why we're here. Well, that's the fact.
• 1:03:43
  And what we're realizing is almost all of our view of world
• 1:03:46
  history, which has been given to us by organizations like the
• 1:03:48
  Smithsonian and other things, is it utterly defiled.
• 1:03:51
  And, and they're sitting on a lot of evidence to the contrary
• 1:03:54
  of the narrative that's being put forward.
• 1:03:57
  And so we, the reinforcement mechanism is, if you don't
• 1:04:01
  believe this version of reality, which is false, we have this
• 1:04:05
  whole military arm called the psychiatric community that'll
• 1:04:08
  lock you up. Now you have to get enough buy
• 1:04:13
  in on the reality of a false reality overlay from people that
• 1:04:17
  are not lockable, like the people that can't be locked up
• 1:04:21
  because they are professionals, they are smart, they are
• 1:04:24
  degreed, they are sitting in seats of political influence
• 1:04:29
  and, and, and Hollywood. And the more people that are
• 1:04:31
  coming, it's like, no, actually, this is real.
• 1:04:34
  This is truly, but it has to start with the grassroots
• 1:04:37
  somewhere somehow. So shattering the false reality
• 1:04:41
  overlay is, is one part of it the next layer to me or another
• 1:04:46
  major layer is a deprogramming layer.
• 1:04:49
  And this gets into the conversation on why I, I don't
• 1:04:52
  think that revival was ever a reality until deprogramming
• 1:04:56
  became part of the conversation. Why?
• 1:05:00
  That's that's why you're reacting to that Rod.
• 1:05:02
  Oh my gosh, why? Because there are a lot of
• 1:05:06
  people that have been main players in mainstream
• 1:05:11
  Christianity that have been either cult plants or just
• 1:05:17
  manipulated by power brokers that sit behind the man.
• 1:05:23
  They, they, they don't get to be the man of God.
• 1:05:28
  They have to be the hireling of the Free Masonic Board that sits
• 1:05:32
  over the church. So you have a whole generation
• 1:05:36
  of people that have been trained and equipped.
• 1:05:38
  And I'm going to put that in quotation marks by a oversight
• 1:05:43
  in the body of Christ that's been tampered with and corrupted
• 1:05:48
  a lot of leaders in the body of Christ.
• 1:05:51
  Unfortunately, we're groomed for that position.
• 1:05:55
  And it wasn't by Jesus. They were.
• 1:05:58
  And it is what we found out when we got into the work.
• 1:06:00
  It's like, so you have highly programmed individuals sitting
• 1:06:03
  in pulpits, but because that's what's trusted by the people
• 1:06:10
  that have the power and the money, that's also what gets
• 1:06:13
  broadcast. So we are broadcast a version of
• 1:06:16
  Christianity that has been groomed to present a version of
• 1:06:21
  Christianity that doesn't challenge a false reality
• 1:06:23
  overlay. So that's just one area.
• 1:06:27
  But you have a whole generation of politicians that were groomed
• 1:06:32
  and programmed to do politics not by Jesus Christ and his
• 1:06:37
  convictions on their heart, but by actual satanic ritual abuse
• 1:06:42
  and MK Ultra inspired programming protocols to groom
• 1:06:48
  politicians to then be placed in roles.
• 1:06:51
  And, and they get the money and they get the influence because
• 1:06:55
  they have the backing by the power brokers who are writing
• 1:06:57
  the history books. And I mean it.
• 1:06:59
  It's just insane how far down the rabbit hole you end up when
• 1:07:01
  you start really researching these things.
• 1:07:03
  You realize, wait, the whole society has been essentially
• 1:07:09
  hijacked from within. And, and so deprogramming has to
• 1:07:14
  be part of revival. And, and I, I say we're moving
• 1:07:17
  past revival because at this point in time, what I see is
• 1:07:20
  revolution. Revival's for the church.
• 1:07:23
  Revolution is for the world. I see that we are on a path to
• 1:07:27
  that, But you can't take deprogramming out one of the
• 1:07:29
  reasons why the body of Christ was so stuck.
• 1:07:31
  It's like, why isn't God moving? Why is he doing more awesome
• 1:07:33
  things? It's because so many people in
• 1:07:36
  the body of Christ have been programmed.
• 1:07:39
  So many leaders have been under programming, so, so much has
• 1:07:42
  been locked down from every area of society, whether it's
• 1:07:47
  Hollywood and and this is coming out with the DD trials, who was
• 1:07:50
  totally involved in all this stuff to the church, to
• 1:07:52
  politics, to CEO's of major corporate like program
• 1:07:56
  individuals sitting in all of these major areas being decision
• 1:07:59
  makers, being gatekeepers. When you introduce deprogramming
• 1:08:03
  into the conversation, and you have a groundswell of grassroots
• 1:08:08
  people calling out the false reality overlay for what it is,
• 1:08:11
  then you begin to break the matrix.
• 1:08:15
  But that still is only part of the conversation, because then
• 1:08:20
  you have a whole other wave. And that other wave has to do
• 1:08:25
  with warriors, actual spiritual warriors.
• 1:08:30
  In my spiritual experience, whether it's in my own personal
• 1:08:34
  prayer closet or on behalf of the people God has called me to
• 1:08:37
  serve, had to contend with most of the highest ranking powers in
• 1:08:41
  the Kingdom of Darkness, including Lucifer and Satan.
• 1:08:43
  In a very direct way, it's just been part of the job
• 1:08:46
  description. What I've realized is that they
• 1:08:50
  have to be reminded who's boss because they don't understand
• 1:08:57
  anything except power. They understand the power of
• 1:08:59
  God. When God comes and slaps them
• 1:09:02
  out of their power structure as a result of what his children
• 1:09:07
  are doing in response to our prayers,
• 1:09:24
  the army that has to come up and then it, you know, deal the
• 1:09:29
  death blow to these powers of that.
• 1:09:31
  That's how you actually weaken the the movements of the Kingdom
• 1:09:34
  of. So we've gotten into some really
• 1:09:36
  unique approaches to doing the stuff that I think are are
• 1:09:40
  pretty far ahead of where a lot of the, you know, others in the
• 1:09:44
  body of Christ. But that's part of the
• 1:09:45
  forerunner concept. You know, one of the things we
• 1:09:48
  did most recently at our at our bribe tribe advanced.
• 1:09:51
  You know, we don't do events where it's just like, all right,
• 1:09:54
  everybody just come in, learn some information and go home.
• 1:09:57
  Like at our annual conferences, we are always pushing the
• 1:10:03
  envelope on something inspired by the Lord.
• 1:10:05
  This most year, we most recent year, we took on Babylon like as
• 1:10:09
  as an entity Babylon. And we didn't do it as like
• 1:10:15
  platform ministry. And I was like, everybody watch
• 1:10:17
  me take on the spirit of Babylon.
• 1:10:19
  We did it as like 500 people strong in A room in agreement.
• 1:10:26
  And I'm, I'm not going to explain all the mechanics of how
• 1:10:30
  we went about doing that, but we did.
• 1:10:33
  And everybody that was there knows we as one body of Christ
• 1:10:41
  pronounced judgment on 10/10 aspects of Babylon's influence
• 1:10:50
  in this earth. And I have watched this entire
• 1:10:54
  year the news spell out the judgments that the 500 or so
• 1:10:59
  that were standing with me at our bride tribe advanced this
• 1:11:02
  year pronounced and and and things that literally just made
• 1:11:05
  no sense. It's like this will never
• 1:11:07
  happen. No way that's not possible and
• 1:11:09
  it's happening. And so it's, it's the warfare is
• 1:11:14
  not something that happens because you have one mighty man
• 1:11:18
  of God that sits on a hill. Like what what we're moving into
• 1:11:21
  is an era where it's the United body of Christ as a corporate
• 1:11:24
  temple housing the glory of God. And that that that's the
• 1:11:29
  governing body, that's the ecclesia that has the authority
• 1:11:33
  to then rewire the spirit world. Now that level of stuff is only
• 1:11:40
  going to expand as we go forward because this is this is where
• 1:11:43
  the confrontation to the beast system, it happens.
• 1:11:46
  And so, so you, you have this cascade and then there's phases
• 1:11:49
  beyond that that I kind of talked to a little bit, but you
• 1:11:53
  know, I'm going to pause there. I've said enough.
• 1:12:00
  No such thing as saying enough, Dan.
• 1:12:02
  There's so much to be said. And I love that idea that you're
• 1:12:07
  painting, which is just exactly the marching orders that I've
• 1:12:11
  been hearing from the Lord too, is we, we are, we have to stop
• 1:12:18
  being on the defensive. We execute his judgments in the
• 1:12:22
  earth. That is not a passive role.
• 1:12:26
  That is a because you've sat at his feet and you've been naked
• 1:12:28
  before him and you've cried your tears and you've had your broken
• 1:12:31
  heart and you've you've walked through the shadows.
• 1:12:36
  You have been clothed in his glory because of the humility
• 1:12:40
  he's wrought in your soul. It's the only thing that can
• 1:12:42
  carry His glory and His power is that deep humility that
• 1:12:48
  transcends observable action. It is your identity.
• 1:12:52
  And when we, when we execute judgement from that place, what
• 1:12:59
  is the enemy going to do? Nothing.
• 1:13:02
  He's going to roll over and feel sorry for himself.
• 1:13:05
  Why? Because we are his bride.
• 1:13:11
  What would He not do for us? How would he not show up?
• 1:13:17
  It's it's what he has created all of this for is the
• 1:13:21
  manifestation of who he is. And that's being seen in the
• 1:13:24
  army of volunteers. It's being seen in those who
• 1:13:27
  have watched his wisdom execute deliverance that mankind could
• 1:13:32
  never have mapped out without the Holy Spirit.
• 1:13:36
  And so when you, when I'm I just yes and Amen to this governing
• 1:13:42
  body, the truly, the ecclesia truly coming online and living
• 1:13:48
  it out in ways that are then measurable in society and
• 1:13:52
  geopolitics and, and whatever it is, because this is what's
• 1:13:56
  breaking forth. This is it.
• 1:13:58
  There's there's no stopping it now.
• 1:14:01
  Why? Because he's faithful.
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  This has been his plan all along.
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  This is just the next step. You've talked about ages and
• 1:14:08
  cycles and so many of your you had a good long sermon series
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  and and scrolls and the pre Adamic.
• 1:14:15
  And when you roll all these things together, it paints a
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  picture of momentum that is truly beyond wisdom.
• 1:14:24
  It is so supernatural and incredibly providential and and
• 1:14:30
  we just have to submit to the to the prescription of his calling
• 1:14:35
  in our day-to-day life. What is he doing?
• 1:14:37
  What is he saying? What is he doing?
• 1:14:38
  What is he saying? It's on repeat in my head.
• 1:14:41
  I just invite people to have the same thought when they encounter
• 1:14:44
  anything. What are you doing?
• 1:14:45
  What are you saying? Because the way that the Lord
• 1:14:47
  executes his agenda in the earth, sometimes it's very
• 1:14:51
  nuanced, and you are underestimating the power of
• 1:14:53
  your proclamations. Don't sell.
• 1:14:56
  Don't prostitute your agreement in the earth for demonic
• 1:14:59
  agendas. Don't shake your head when
• 1:15:00
  somebody's saying, oh, the darkness is coming, this
• 1:15:03
  generation's last. No, don't even put an ounce of
• 1:15:06
  agreement in that place because it's a lie.
• 1:15:09
  And you're underestimating the power of your agreement.
• 1:15:11
  And Dan, I learned this from you.
• 1:15:13
  There is so much value in the Kingdom of darkness to human
• 1:15:15
  agreement because of who we are. We can't sell that short and
• 1:15:20
  those opportunities that come to declare his judgment in the
• 1:15:24
  earth to speak as the ecclesias sometimes there with there are
• 1:15:28
  the whispers. It's not always the thundering.
• 1:15:30
  It's not always oh, now this geopolitical body's doing this
• 1:15:34
  thing. We must not consent and pray
• 1:15:36
  against us like he will whisper to you in your you're walking
• 1:15:39
  down the street and he'll show you some Prince, some ruling
• 1:15:43
  entity in a place, and you can just listen to him and he'll
• 1:15:45
  tell you how to break that thing's face off and shackle it
• 1:15:49
  to the underworld and just shut it up for the rest of eternity.
• 1:15:53
  Why? Because this is the systematic
• 1:15:54
  dismantling of a system that has held humanity in bondage for
• 1:15:58
  generations. And he's over it.
• 1:16:00
  He's for the liberty of his people.
• 1:16:04
  God is reconciling everything to himself in the hashemiens, in
• 1:16:09
  the heavens and on the earth. And so yeah, Carly, not
• 1:16:16
  underestimating the declaration episode 180, I did the spiritual
• 1:16:20
  Declaration of Independence over the state of Pennsylvania.
• 1:16:23
  And with what Dan is saying, I really do feel like bride
• 1:16:28
  ministry was doing like a way bigger thing in the ecclesia.
• 1:16:33
  And and some of that trickle effect came out through one
• 1:16:37
  person saying within my state, I am going to be that bold.
• 1:16:42
  The righteous are bold as lions. Folks, remember that scripture.
• 1:16:48
  And so all of this like just makes more and more sense as we
• 1:16:52
  go along. Baz, I want to I want to ask you
• 1:16:54
  because what I what I've been so blessed by you and Gans is, is
• 1:16:59
  the word also says plant and water seeds.
• 1:17:02
  And then God gives the growth, right?
• 1:17:04
  And it's like the idea of bamboo, that root network,
• 1:17:08
  you'll never know it's developing.
• 1:17:09
  It's under the darkness of the earth for five to six years and
• 1:17:14
  it shoots up within 24 hours to 8 feet and then higher and it
• 1:17:18
  just takes over everything, but it builds like this invisible
• 1:17:22
  kind of network. 1st and this is one of these perspectives that I
• 1:17:25
  believe is encouraging for me personally and others out there
• 1:17:28
  listening with what you guys are doing through a news analysis
• 1:17:32
  through just being kind of juggernauts in the space of you
• 1:17:35
  can say whatever you want, send a million messages and signals,
• 1:17:38
  but Basil and guns are going to maintain a posture of Jesus
• 1:17:42
  Christ as Lord in the midst of all of it.
• 1:17:44
  It's another one of these kind of beautiful, if I could even
• 1:17:49
  say a, a, a sequence of fivefold ministry starting to, to come
• 1:17:53
  together. But like, you know, we're, we're
• 1:17:56
  each in a lane and have something that we specialize in.
• 1:18:00
  So I do, I want to pass it back to you with this idea of
• 1:18:03
  combating, right, the stance that you have taken just year
• 1:18:06
  after year after year. We're going to talk about the
• 1:18:09
  glory of God and we're going to break down the the news in a way
• 1:18:13
  that glorifies the one name that's above every name.
• 1:18:18
  And what are your thoughts with how many seeds you've planted,
• 1:18:21
  Basil that you're unaware of? Sorry.
• 1:18:24
  Yeah. I mean, we're, we're just so
• 1:18:26
  blessed. It's it's a weird business to be
• 1:18:30
  in. Anybody who, you know, primarily
• 1:18:32
  does stuff online, it's just kind of a weird way to live your
• 1:18:36
  life that can have a lot of extremes.
• 1:18:41
  And I will say so grateful to God to hear again since because
• 1:18:47
  he has sustained us for so long just together as a team.
• 1:18:51
  And whatever he walks us through, I'll say it's not every
• 1:18:57
  day. But when we do get somebody who
• 1:19:04
  reaches out and maybe they've been listening again, like I
• 1:19:08
  said, for 10 years or more, or maybe it's a teenager who first
• 1:19:13
  heard us, you know, when riding in the car with their parents,
• 1:19:17
  you know, in 2012 or something. For me personally, it is an it's
• 1:19:29
  a miracle. Honestly, it's an absolute
• 1:19:33
  miracle because it's a lonely business sitting here day after
• 1:19:39
  day for anyone who is following a calling that God has given
• 1:19:45
  them. When you're called to something,
• 1:19:49
  you know you must do it. You know you must show up, and
• 1:19:52
  you know that God's got your back.
• 1:19:56
  But it's not always apparent in the sort of material human way
• 1:20:02
  that we desire, you know, as far as day-to-day encouragement or
• 1:20:08
  day-to-day measurements of success or day-to-day reminders
• 1:20:13
  that you're on the right track. And you know, not only with, in
• 1:20:18
  this case, podcasting, but you know, I've been in the ministry
• 1:20:21
  in, in all its various forms. Since I was very, very young and
• 1:20:26
  for anybody who is trying to follow the calling that God has
• 1:20:31
  put on their hearts, it will become intimately familiar with
• 1:20:35
  this feeling of going long stretches and and wondering to
• 1:20:41
  oneself in the dark of night, Am I even doing this right?
• 1:20:47
  Like am I following am I, what am I, what am I doing?
• 1:20:51
  Like there's is there a time, how would I know if God wanted
• 1:20:55
  me to stop or how would I know if I got off track with what God
• 1:20:59
  wanted? And he has this amazing ability
• 1:21:04
  to bring the perfect person to say the perfect thing at the
• 1:21:07
  perfect time. Not to measure by man's
• 1:21:11
  standards, you know, not to measure success by man's
• 1:21:15
  standards. But this really gentle,
• 1:21:20
  gracious, otherworldly confirmation, sometimes straight
• 1:21:25
  from the, you know, the mouth of children where you go.
• 1:21:30
  It does. It doesn't even matter what the
• 1:21:31
  literal words are or what the, you know, what the context is.
• 1:21:36
  But he speaks through these little moments of, like you
• 1:21:41
  said, people saying, oh, I found you in 2012 and I found you at
• 1:21:47
  the right time or oh, I'm getting a little bit of a bounce
• 1:21:52
  back from somebody there. I don't know if that was me or
• 1:21:56
  whatever. And you start living your life
• 1:22:00
  by these different standards. And it's these standards of God
• 1:22:04
  sort of just taking a paintbrush almost and painting your life 1
• 1:22:09
  little brush stroke at a time. And it's, you know, incredibly
• 1:22:14
  rewarding, but takes takes something like getting used to
• 1:22:19
  something, you know, you got to get used to it.
• 1:22:23
  And part of that is being so sensitive, trying, trying your
• 1:22:26
  best. But often times it's happens
• 1:22:29
  when you stop trying, you know, to to develop this sensitivity,
• 1:22:36
  this moment, like somebody said earlier, where it's a whisper,
• 1:22:45
  which is a really special thing, but totally outside of the usual
• 1:22:54
  measurements of success. Now, that being said, when it
• 1:22:59
  comes to planting seeds, that is, I am so grateful to have
• 1:23:04
  spent enough time in, in the church and in ministry to have
• 1:23:10
  developed to this sense that the only job we have is to plant
• 1:23:15
  seeds. And you know, the harvest is,
• 1:23:17
  is, is God's, is God's domain. And it's just been incredible to
• 1:23:24
  see. I mean, back to some of the
• 1:23:25
  first comments I made in this conversation, the it's almost
• 1:23:33
  like the growing period or between planting and harvesting
• 1:23:39
  is so invisible, happens by God's timing and happens in
• 1:23:45
  other people's lives that when the harvest comes in, it is an
• 1:23:50
  absolutely is an absolute celebration.
• 1:23:56
  I was trying to think of maybe some sort of image or metaphor
• 1:23:59
  to compare it to, but I really have a hard time doing that.
• 1:24:02
  But that's, that's really all we're called to do.
• 1:24:05
  You know, when I encourage people to take that first step
• 1:24:08
  and get doing what God wants them to do, there is a, a
• 1:24:14
  process of disconnecting your measurement of success with
• 1:24:18
  God's measurement of success and living a life where the best
• 1:24:25
  thing you can do is say the words that God, you know, has
• 1:24:30
  called you to say and then just wait patiently.
• 1:24:34
  And that's on an individual level here.
• 1:24:35
  And I think we're also seeing it honestly on a worldwide level.
• 1:24:41
  Like Dan alluded to, you know, everybody is playing this
• 1:24:43
  different part in the battle. And much like, you know, a real
• 1:24:49
  sort of military or an intelligence scenario, you only
• 1:24:53
  really know what your job is. You only really know what your
• 1:24:58
  instructions are, what your orders are, and you know, you
• 1:25:02
  have to trust that whoever is in charge has a broader picture.
• 1:25:08
  And it's being carried out not because it's just a brilliant
• 1:25:12
  plan, but because everybody has agreed to just do exactly what
• 1:25:17
  they've been ordered to do. And so, so I just encourage
• 1:25:23
  everybody to do that. I'm so well said, Baz.
• 1:25:27
  And I mean, Carly, do you kind of want to put in, you know,
• 1:25:30
  some last thoughts as we we start to land this plane and
• 1:25:33
  then we'll pass it to, you know, just closing statements.
• 1:25:37
  And I'm pretty sure everybody on the MMS knows where to find
• 1:25:40
  Canary Cry Radio and Bride Ministries with Dan Duvall.
• 1:25:43
  But we're also going to offer, you know, a minute for them guys
• 1:25:47
  to plug in anything they'd like. So.
• 1:25:51
  Yeah, I would love to just admonish the listener to
• 1:25:57
  recognize how intimate and personal your walk with the Lord
• 1:26:01
  needs to be as the world continues to change and turn
• 1:26:05
  into something that we can't entirely conceive of right now.
• 1:26:10
  The most important thing that you have in your arsenal is
• 1:26:14
  knowing His voice. That is going to be everything
• 1:26:18
  and it has been everything the whole time, but it's been
• 1:26:21
  overlaid with formulas and bunch of math stuff that just, it's
• 1:26:27
  not going to suffice for what we're walking into and keep
• 1:26:32
  pressing in. It's not a performance.
• 1:26:35
  It's a deep intimate place with the Lord.
• 1:26:37
  It's deep inside. That's where the victory starts.
• 1:26:43
  And if you nurture that, nothing, nothing will hold you
• 1:26:48
  back. You will live in victory in
• 1:26:51
  every moment of your day, even when it doesn't look like it.
• 1:26:54
  You will know because your identity is victory.
• 1:26:57
  Period. That's what it is.
• 1:27:00
  So it doesn't matter what it looks like out here.
• 1:27:03
  You're showing up on the top because you seated in heavenly
• 1:27:07
  places in Christ Jesus. This is an identity issue, and
• 1:27:10
  as much as we rightly talk about the execution of our identity
• 1:27:15
  and how that plugs in to the world, it is it ultimately your
• 1:27:20
  purpose is to express the marriage between your being and
• 1:27:25
  the being of Christ into the earth in everything you do.
• 1:27:29
  It doesn't matter if you're folding the laundry or you're
• 1:27:32
  preaching A sermon or you're writing prayers that shake
• 1:27:35
  heaven and earth or you're connecting dots for 15 years so
• 1:27:39
  people can start to understand the false reality overlay, all
• 1:27:43
  those things that we're talking about.
• 1:27:45
  Who is sitting on this panel right now?
• 1:27:48
  It is less about the formulas that that they are presenting
• 1:27:53
  through the hardships of their life.
• 1:27:54
  And it's about showing up in the truth of of the intersection
• 1:27:58
  between Christ and who you are in everything.
• 1:28:02
  It's authenticity, it's honesty, it's rawness, it's realness.
• 1:28:07
  It's the truth that cannot be dampened, period.
• 1:28:14
  Because it's literally on fire. So stand in your victory and
• 1:28:20
  walk forward knowing that you are exactly who he needs right
• 1:28:26
  now. You already are.
• 1:28:28
  You're not broken. You're not broken.
• 1:28:33
  You have everything you need in you.
• 1:28:36
  And that is the truth that needs to be wrestled with.
• 1:28:38
  And the places inside your, and I'll finish with this, the
• 1:28:40
  places inside yourself where there's doubt, that's a holy
• 1:28:44
  place the Lord is waiting for you inside of to reconcile the
• 1:28:48
  truth to your heart realm. He's sitting there waiting for
• 1:28:51
  you. Open the door and walk in and
• 1:28:54
  Sup with him, as Dan has said so many times, because in that
• 1:28:57
  place the truth will be born into this realm.
• 1:29:01
  And that's so important. So thank you all so much.
• 1:29:04
  It has been such a blessing of a conversation, and I pray it goes
• 1:29:08
  far and wide and touches all the lives and all of the cosmos that
• 1:29:12
  needs to hear it. Because you're right, this
• 1:29:14
  isn't, this is not just about people.
• 1:29:15
  This is about reconciling the cosmos to the Creator.
• 1:29:19
  Every aspect of creation is crying out for reconciliation.
• 1:29:26
  Amen. And how great is it when we do
• 1:29:29
  that together in unity with one mind?
• 1:29:35
  So Dan, I want to pass it to you and just say, you know, plug in
• 1:29:38
  where you can be found and give your recommendations for the
• 1:29:43
  audience who have taken this emotional and powerful roller
• 1:29:48
  coaster ride with us. Ridemovement.com, that's our
• 1:29:53
  ministry website. danduvall.com you can find our podcast.
• 1:29:57
  We have a lot of resources that you can navigate, including all
• 1:30:00
  of our ministers at Service Coaches, a free deliverance
• 1:30:03
  portal, prayer resources, a whole school, etcetera.
• 1:30:09
  We do also, you know, I mean absolutely press the foundation
• 1:30:17
  and the basics like the Word of God, prayer time, fasting.
• 1:30:24
  There are certain spiritual, foundational things that
• 1:30:29
  everybody needs in their life if they're going to ascend to the
• 1:30:35
  higher calling in Christ, that that deals with some of the
• 1:30:38
  things that I was speaking to earlier.
• 1:30:40
  And if you don't know where to start, start there.
• 1:30:46
  Amen. Amen.
• 1:30:49
  And Baz, same thing for you brother, plug in where you can
• 1:30:52
  be found tying, tying a quick loose ends that you might have.
• 1:30:57
  Yeah, absolutely. Well, we have a couple of
• 1:31:01
  different things going on at the same time, which is always
• 1:31:04
  confusing. But we have Canary Cry Radio,
• 1:31:06
  which is, you know, you'll find a collection of a decade or more
• 1:31:11
  opportunities of diving into the sort of foundational research
• 1:31:15
  that has become so popular nowadays across the board.
• 1:31:19
  We just recently had the opportunity to speak with Zoltan
• 1:31:24
  Estevan, who is a fellow we've been tracking for quite some
• 1:31:27
  time. He is a transhumanist.
• 1:31:30
  He started the Transhumanist Party, technology transhumanism.
• 1:31:34
  This is obviously another one of those things that was so fringe
• 1:31:40
  and weird to talk about, especially through a biblical
• 1:31:43
  lens. And it is very much a biblical
• 1:31:46
  and prophetic tough topic that has so much to do with with
• 1:31:50
  everything. And we got a chance to sit down
• 1:31:55
  with him after many years of following his story there.
• 1:31:59
  So you can hear that most recent conversation with him at Canary
• 1:32:03
  Cry Radio. We're on YouTube and places like
• 1:32:07
  that. But I always point people
• 1:32:09
  towards the podcast version that, you know, whatever your
• 1:32:12
  favorite podcast player on, just search Canary Cry Radio and
• 1:32:16
  Canary Cry News Talk. I know we should have chosen
• 1:32:19
  much different names because people get them mixed up a lot.
• 1:32:22
  They are two different shows can hear Craig news talk is where
• 1:32:26
  you can get a couple times a week.
• 1:32:28
  We are just diving into the current events, trying to bring
• 1:32:32
  sanity, trying to be bring the biblical perspective and keep
• 1:32:36
  everything rooted in Christ and what our daily practical
• 1:32:39
  response to the madness is. Because remember, the media is
• 1:32:43
  not just the news. It's not it, it is the control
• 1:32:46
  mechanism. It is the illusory magicians who
• 1:32:50
  are controlling language, controlling stories, not for,
• 1:32:55
  you know, for anything else, but to control our perception of
• 1:32:59
  reality. And if we can't trust our
• 1:33:02
  perception of reality, that causes a lot of problems, as I'm
• 1:33:06
  sure many people here can attest to.
• 1:33:10
  So, you know, it's really a, a family affair.
• 1:33:13
  We've got a great community and we encourage everybody not to
• 1:33:17
  just treat it as a, you know, just another podcast or news
• 1:33:21
  source, but really consider it a a family of believers who can
• 1:33:26
  find each other and do our best to make it through that unreal
• 1:33:33
  reality that's being sort of forced on us all the time.
• 1:33:36
  And again, you can find us on YouTube and Rumble and stuff.
• 1:33:39
  But of course, the podcast version is my personal
• 1:33:42
  recommendation. And it really is meant to be, as
• 1:33:48
  you know, this this far along in the movements, the sort of
• 1:33:53
  fringy, prophetic biblical lens to try to see past the illusion.
• 1:34:00
  You know, this is a movement with a long history.
• 1:34:04
  And it is one that is primarily focused, I believe, on trying
• 1:34:10
  our best to get back to the objective reality of creation as
• 1:34:15
  as God intended us to be living in, to be walking in like Adam
• 1:34:20
  in the garden and keeping that focus every day is, is a very
• 1:34:27
  encouraging and a very motivating thing to wake up to.
• 1:34:31
  So encourage everybody to do that.
• 1:34:34
  And thank God that my voice seemed to have somehow made it
• 1:34:39
  to the end of the episode. So praise God for that too.
• 1:34:42
  I think you sound better here at the end than than right out the
• 1:34:45
  RIP man. So praise God for both of you.
• 1:34:47
  Dan Broad Ministries Basil and Canary Cry Carly excellent Co
• 1:34:55
  host on this one. You had great questions, great
• 1:34:57
  insights. I'm going to close this out
• 1:34:59
  reading a quick piece of scripture for you.
• 1:35:03
  O God have heard my vowels. You have given me the heritage
• 1:35:08
  of those who fear your name. You will prolong the King's
• 1:35:12
  life, his years, as many generations.
• 1:35:15
  He shall abide before God forever.
• 1:35:18
  O prepare mercy and truth, which may preserve him.
• 1:35:22
  So I will sing praise to your name forever, that I may daily
• 1:35:27
  perform my vows. Psalm 61, five through 8.
• 1:35:33
  Well, that's it. That's the show.
• 1:35:34
  You guys, you know the deal. Share this one far and wide.
• 1:35:38
  It helps us find one more person just like me and you.
• 1:35:42
  And honestly, it's just the right thing to do Bye.
• 1:36:11
  I trusted in your word many troubled nights.
• 1:36:14
  All that darkness thought I lost my sight.
• 1:36:17
  The devil shooting shots, trying to end my life.
• 1:36:20
  But I'm covered by the blood, so I'm going to be all right.
• 1:36:23
  I'm down one, but I'm up to. I've been down once.
• 1:36:27
  But his Love's true. I'm seeking this face, feeling
• 1:36:30
  the grace. I'm running this race for
• 1:36:32
  eternity. Space.
• 1:36:34
  I need more love. Less tears, no more drugs, less
• 1:36:37
  fears. The stress reel detached it.
• 1:36:40
  I'm washing over everything up in my mind.
• 1:36:42
  Pummel the devil. How's this feel you?
• 1:36:44
  Out of time. Look, God, you said, you never
• 1:36:48
  leave me. 'Cause my baby pictures, they
• 1:37:07
  got me crying like I'm dissing the devil and I'm praying just
• 1:37:10
  real hard in the spirit. I'm really feeling the Holy
• 1:37:13
  Spirit is coming near me. I'm like Lord God, be the way,
• 1:37:16
  the truth, the life, don't ever leave me.
• 1:37:18
  Jesus Christ, I really need you tonight.
• 1:37:20
  I'm like, Lord God, you put it on my heart.
• 1:37:23
  You're moving in and through me and you're erasing all the dark.
• 1:37:27
  You're the way. You're the truth.
• 1:37:29
  You're the lie. Lord God, you said you never
• 1:37:35
  leave me. Lord God, you said, you'll
• 1:37:38
  always. See me through, you'll always
• 1:37:41
  see me through. Lord God, you said you'll.
• 1:37:46
  Never leave me. Lord God, you said you'll always
• 1:37:50
  see me. Through.
• 1:37:52
  You'll always see me through. Yeah, you justified the
• 1:37:57
  sentence. Me, I pray you don't prepare me.
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  Times I remember. And think about the penalty.
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  Desires of the heart brought rebellion, causing enmity.
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  Lord, you know the truth here. Despite who we pretend to be.
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  I'm giving you the enemy. This is what it looked like.
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  And This is why I took Christ, the one who made a crook life.
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  Forgive me for my idol words. Every word.
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  I took life sometimes. I should have stayed here.
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  For every step I took life. My God ain't desert me.
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  Capsized and mercy. Baptized and mercy.
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  Yeah. I should have died from
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  backsliding, curses, trapped, dies and hurses and capsized.
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  My purpose here, Lord God, you said you never leave me.
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  Lord God, you said, you'll always see me through.
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  You'll always see me through. Lord God, you said you never
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  leave me. Lord God, you said you'll always
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  see me through. You'll always see me through.