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- 0:00Extra credit will always come and go based off of what the
- 0:02latest fads are, but I don't think that a solid nutrition
- 0:06plan, a solid strength plan, and a solid mobility plan are going
- 0:08to be anything that gets phased out.
- 0:15Hello and welcome to the Eat More Carbs podcast.
- 0:18My name is Jenna Fischer and I'm here with my Co host Riley
- 0:20Beatty. Today we're going to be re
- 0:21sharing our episode with Nate Harris.
- 0:23Before we jump into today's episode, this is just a quick
- 0:26reminder that it would be huge if you could give us a 5 star
- 0:30reading and review. It really helps this podcast
- 0:33grow and helps other athletes find us on their nutrition
- 0:36journey. Today, like I mentioned, we are
- 0:38re sharing Doctor Nate Harris's episode of the More Carbs
- 0:42Podcast. Nate Harris is a physical
- 0:43therapist based out of Charleston, SC, and he primarily
- 0:46works with athletes. During this episode, he shares a
- 0:48lot about injury recovery, how to come back from injury, and
- 0:52how top athletes make the most out of their injury recovery.
- 0:55Plan to return as an even better player.
- 0:56Before we get into that though, Riley.
- 0:58Starting helping my low All of my hair is falling out because I
- 1:01am postpartum six to seven months at the time of this
- 1:05recording and your girl's hair is coming out.
- 1:08Do you have like baby hairs or like is it your hairline
- 1:11primarily like if you're? Looking at the video, you can
- 1:14see this, but a lot of like in kind of the front.
- 1:16And what was really shocking to me, I know that you have a
- 1:19George, so you are used to hair like we have dogs and I'm used
- 1:23to hair around the house, but I'm not used to long hairs.
- 1:27And what's been really like eye opening to me is it is the
- 1:30entire strand. For me.
- 1:32It's not like breakage, it's like the entire strand of hair.
- 1:35Oh no, we need to have mercy back on so she can talk about
- 1:38like hair loss and things that we can do for that because I
- 1:40know she mentioned that. So we should have her back on to
- 1:42talk about like. Queers, we need her back on
- 1:44because she's amazing. My high has to do with running.
- 1:48We talked a lot about running on this podcast and I know that you
- 1:52do so much work with runners. Feel like we might be turning
- 1:54into a little bit of a running podcast.
- 1:56We go through like themes, right?
- 1:57We were like a plant podcast. We're a dog podcast.
- 2:00We were kind of a pregnancy podcast.
- 2:02Now we're running podcast. We're doing a lot of runs right
- 2:05now. I am really excited because I
- 2:08had a goal to run like less than a 730 mile with the running
- 2:13stroller last week. I hit 715 and I was really
- 2:16excited. I was doing about repeat, so
- 2:19it's not like I could do it multiple times, but I was just
- 2:21really proud of my postpartum body.
- 2:24I just wanted to share that, not kind of brag or anything, but
- 2:26I'm truly proud of myself. You should be.
- 2:28What are your high and what are your low?
- 2:29My high and my low is the same story, I guess you could say.
- 2:32My high is that I went on a Bachelorette trip last weekend
- 2:36and it was so much fun. We had such a great time.
- 2:38Like everybody really got along. Like we had a really good time.
- 2:41And I want to give a shout out to Taylor and all of her
- 2:42friends. That made me feel really welcome
- 2:45because I didn't really know anyone other than Taylor and I
- 2:47left with a whole bunch of new friends, which is just super
- 2:49fun. And thank you all for listening
- 2:51and supporting the podcast because I know every single one
- 2:53of them downloaded to to support our small business.
- 2:56So thank you to all of you. Thank you for inviting me on the
- 2:58trip. It was so fun.
- 3:00My low to go along with that is like I'm experiencing like the
- 3:02post vacation Blues where you're like, oh gosh, like I have to
- 3:04get back into the swing of things.
- 3:06And it's always really hard for me to do that when I come back
- 3:08and like start the week off like I need.
- 3:10I almost need to, like, schedule a day that I have off in between
- 3:12when I, like, come back from a vacation just to, like, kind of
- 3:15get back into the group of things because, man, it's hard
- 3:17to just go right from, like, vacation mode right into work
- 3:20mode, which is kind of what ended up happening.
- 3:22We hope you enjoy this episode with Nate Harris.
- 3:24Thanks so much for being on the podcast.
- 3:26Yeah. First of all thanks for having
- 3:27me. I'm Nate Harris.
- 3:28I'm a physical therapist in the Mount Pleasant, SC area.
- 3:31I own sports PT practice called Velocity Sports Physical Therapy
- 3:35and we are just practice who is sole mission is trying to get
- 3:38our athletes back on the field as fast as possible, as safely
- 3:41as possible and keep them there. Well, we're very excited to have
- 3:43you on to help answer some questions.
- 3:45Nate, can you share a little bit about your background, your
- 3:47experience as an athlete and how you got into sports physical
- 3:50therapy? Yeah, absolutely.
- 3:51So I was a kid who just kind of grew up playing all the sports,
- 3:55baseball, basketball, football, soccer, you name it.
- 3:58And then as I got into high school, just my force ended up
- 4:01wiggling down to just baseball and I, I realized very quickly
- 4:04that I did not have what it takes to cut it as a
- 4:07professional baseball player. Like I thought when I was 6.
- 4:09So I, you know, had a couple of opportunities to play at some
- 4:13small colleges for college baseball, but I kind of knew
- 4:16that's not exactly what I wanted out of my college experience.
- 4:18So I ultimately didn't really pursue any college athlete
- 4:21aspirations. And so I always knew that I
- 4:23wanted to do something in sports and ideally something with
- 4:25science. So in high school, there was a
- 4:27class called sports medicine said, hey, sure, that sounds
- 4:29cool. Ended up being with our school's
- 4:31athletic trainer, just teaching a little bit about it.
- 4:33And I really liked, so I went to the University of South Carolina
- 4:36to get my athletic training degree.
- 4:38And so I was an athletic trainer before I became a physical
- 4:41therapist. That gave me a lot of cool
- 4:42opportunities just working with South Carolina, their college
- 4:46sports. So football, baseball, soccer,
- 4:49swim and dive, cheerleading, as well as a couple of high
- 4:51schools. So kind of get your, you know,
- 4:54breadth in depth, as they love to say in the clinical world.
- 4:56And so then after that, did some fun internships both with the
- 5:00Seattle Seahawks and the NFL, as well as the Pittsburgh Pirate
- 5:03and the MLB. And so I found out very quickly
- 5:06that I really enjoyed the professional court setting, but
- 5:08the work life balance just wasn't for me.
- 5:10I mean, it's such a grind and it's just as bad in college.
- 5:14And so I'm very grateful that I had those opportunities just to,
- 5:17you know, pull from that experience and be able to learn
- 5:20a lot along the way. But I also am very glad that I
- 5:23went and did that because if I was always kind of chasing that
- 5:26pipe dream, I might, you know, today really still be hoping
- 5:30that I could get there and then realize, oh, shoot, this might
- 5:32not be for me. So that's ultimately how I ended
- 5:34up opening a sports physical therapy practice in Charleston
- 5:37was I knew that I had that experience working with athletes
- 5:40in a couple of different settings.
- 5:41And I wanted to make sure that the athletes, both middle high
- 5:43school, college, whatever it is, professional guys who are still
- 5:46in the area had access to someone who kind of knows that
- 5:49side of things. And can be able to deliver that
- 5:51high level care. Is there a type of athlete that
- 5:54you specialize in working with or is it just kind of all types
- 5:57of athletes? Yeah.
- 5:58So we certainly see just because of my background a majority
- 6:01baseball and just through forming some relationships with
- 6:05some of the local doctors here, that has transitioned into a lot
- 6:08of just upper extremity athletes.
- 6:09So the easy answers there are baseball, softball and
- 6:12volleyball, but you know anything upper extremity
- 6:15related. So swim and dive is very upper
- 6:18extremity related. If you're a football player and
- 6:20you have shoulder injury from falling or a wrist injury as a
- 6:23tennis player, then that all kind of comes over to us and we
- 6:26certainly don't turn anyone away.
- 6:27We like to think that we have a good amount of knowledge on a
- 6:30lot of different sports. I will say I had my first
- 6:34competitive ballerina earlier this year, which is not
- 6:37something that I dealt with before.
- 6:39And so that was a learning experience for both of us, but
- 6:42it still goes back to the same principles.
- 6:43I tell all my baseball players is like, look, you just have to
- 6:45know what you need to do for your sport and then make sure
- 6:49that you can do it. And so I certainly was asking
- 6:51her a lot of questions of, hey, talk to me how you get into this
- 6:55position and what is this called and what does it look like?
- 6:58So learned a couple of new terminology terms that I have
- 7:01since forgotten. But the short answer is mostly
- 7:04baseball. And then we see a good amount of
- 7:06golfers to just from some of the continuing education stuff that
- 7:09we've done, but we certainly have seen to every sport that
- 7:13could walk through the door. It sounds like a good variety.
- 7:16It sounds like you're never bored.
- 7:17Well, that's the best part about this job is that you're always
- 7:20going to find something interesting, even if it's just
- 7:23a, you know, I see a lot of Tommy John patients and I feel
- 7:26like I could do one with my eyes closed now.
- 7:28But there are so many nuances within that where you're going
- 7:31to find something interesting each and every time, even if
- 7:33it's not in the actual science of the physical therapy and the
- 7:37medicine aspect. Like people are interesting, but
- 7:40it certainly doesn't leave you bored.
- 7:42So I, there are certainly, I can count on probably one hand since
- 7:46I started this job, how many days I rolled out of bed and I
- 7:48was like, man, I don't want to go to work.
- 7:50And it certainly didn't have to do with my patients or clients,
- 7:53had to do with stuff going on my own life.
- 7:55And I don't think that's something a lot of people can
- 7:57say. So I'm very fortunate to be in
- 7:59the position I am you. Mentioned Tommy John.
- 8:01So I have to ask this question because obviously I feel like
- 8:04it's in the news right now a lot.
- 8:05Like what changes are they throwing faster?
- 8:07Is that really a thing? Yes.
- 8:09So that's the one word answer. So you're talking about how
- 8:12Tommy John is on the rise? Yeah, yeah.
- 8:14I feel like I'm hearing a lot more about it or I feel like I
- 8:17hear a lot about it. So I would love for you to just
- 8:19kind of talk about like what that is and what that means for
- 8:22like the future of a player or anyone who really experiences
- 8:25that because I guess it's not limited to baseball.
- 8:26Correct. Right.
- 8:27And that is something I didn't realize until recently.
- 8:30I've now treated probably 10 to 15 cheerleaders who have had
- 8:33Tommy John because it's a common thing with elbow dislocations.
- 8:37And that's very common to cheer with the backwards tumbling and
- 8:40all of that. But certainly Tommy John is on
- 8:42the rise. The youth coaches and every
- 8:44T-ball coach in America wants to blame the curveball and the fact
- 8:47that kids are, you know, throwing off speed earlier.
- 8:50But the science backs up the fact of what you said.
- 8:53They're throwing harder. And back in 1999, there were, I
- 8:57think, 3 people through over 100 miles an hour.
- 8:59And this year there were something like 70 or 80.
- 9:01And you probably don't know half their names.
- 9:03And it's just becoming, as a result of people understanding
- 9:06how their bodies work, strength and conditioning, nutrition,
- 9:10recovery, all that stuff is getting so scientific and it's
- 9:13becoming more mainstream with professional sports.
- 9:15People are getting better at doing their job, which for
- 9:19baseball players, throwing the ball hard.
- 9:20But naturally when you throw harder, there is more stress on
- 9:23ligaments, tendons, muscles, all of that.
- 9:25And just in the nature of baseball, that is the first
- 9:28thing to go. The good news is that Tommy John
- 9:30rehab surgery, all of that has gotten much, much better in the
- 9:34last, I would say 15 or 20 years.
- 9:35It was first done and I believe the late 70s, early 80s on a guy
- 9:40named Tommy John, which is where it comes from.
- 9:43But before then, if you tore your UCL, which is the ligament
- 9:47that gets torn and they go and do the Tommy John surgery to
- 9:50reconstruct it, before then it was a career killer.
- 9:52Like, oh, you blow out your elbow?
- 9:54Yep, see you never. And so now it's pretty standard
- 9:57for someone to come back from Tommy John and get back to their
- 10:01previous level of performance. It's something like an 80 to 85%
- 10:05clip. But still, that means one in 10.
- 10:06It's like you're not going to be where you were.
- 10:08Because now there's kind of the flip side where there's so much
- 10:13positive news around folks who are coming back from Tom John
- 10:16throwing harder that whenever any high schooler walks in my
- 10:19door and they're like, hey, I'm gonna throw harder after this,
- 10:21right. Like man, like those guys put in
- 10:2214 months of blood, sweat and tears and like you better do the
- 10:26same if you even want to be one of the 85%.
- 10:28So the. Importance of the rehab is
- 10:30extreme with that one, yeah. For sure.
- 10:33And I think that some of it boils down to the fact that when
- 10:36you go and do that surgery, they are repairing it.
- 10:38So height usually like they are reinforcing the heck out of it
- 10:43that they can trust their own body again.
- 10:45And then other aspects of it is very similar to ACL rehab where
- 10:49it takes nine months, 10 months, 12 months just to get back to
- 10:52where you were. That you and your PT, your
- 10:55trainer, the strength and conditioning staff, all that
- 10:57support staff become your life support because you in general
- 11:03are removed from your team, you're removed from your
- 11:04practice. So you're, you know,
- 11:06psychiatrist or therapist because of the mental health
- 11:09aspect of it too. So it is a truly comprehensive
- 11:12approach and that generally bodes well for the athlete when
- 11:15they can spend all the extra time dialing in their nutrition,
- 11:18their sleep, their strength and conditioning, their mobility,
- 11:21all of that so it. Sounds like there's some myth
- 11:23busting going on there for the Tommy John.
- 11:26What are some other maybe myths that you hear related to sports,
- 11:30rehab and then also maybe even nutrition?
- 11:33Yeah. For sure to talk more
- 11:34specifically about the nutrition and with my background in
- 11:37baseball and that being mostly who walks through the door, I'm
- 11:40constantly fighting the patients and the dads who truly think
- 11:44that I don't want to get too bulky or I don't want my kid to
- 11:47get too bulky or too strong for this sport.
- 11:49Which and I tell all of them, I promise you it's not that easy,
- 11:52right? Like if it was that easy, like
- 11:54everyone be walking around looking like, you know, Hulk
- 11:56Hogan or something. So especially even the there's
- 12:00been the, you know, handful of female athletes who have said
- 12:03the same thing. And women don't need more
- 12:05barriers to strength training, right?
- 12:07Like, I'm sure that's another rabbit hole that we can go down.
- 12:10But I just get very triggered, for lack of a better word, of
- 12:13folks who just think like, oh, well, I need to cut my calories
- 12:16and I need to watch what I eat because I don't want to get too
- 12:19bulky. And I mean, Riley, you and I
- 12:21have talked about it a little bit briefly before, but like
- 12:23there, there needs to be probably more trend in the other
- 12:27direction where you probably should be trying to get heavier.
- 12:32So that's certainly one of the big sports nutrition things that
- 12:34grinds my gears. The other one is just the, I
- 12:36guess, culture around energy drinks now where it's just
- 12:39normal for guys to rip four or five Celsius or bangs a day.
- 12:41And like, dude, you're not only just like killing your, like,
- 12:45that's not the right fuel, but that's also going to kill your
- 12:47recovery, which is going to put you at further risk of injury
- 12:50because that's the number one predictor of injury.
- 12:53There's some really interesting stuff on recovery and injury
- 12:55risk. Like, you're three times more
- 12:57likely to get injured as a college athlete during finals
- 12:59than any other time of the year because stress, sleep, nutrition
- 13:04just goes out the window. So the the kids who just
- 13:06constantly like, I'll see someone at 6:00 or 7:00 PM and
- 13:09they have an unopened Celsius in their hand.
- 13:11Like, dude, what are you doing? Just really trying to figure out
- 13:14the best way that I can communicate that without just
- 13:17sounding like another adult. Yelling at them about their
- 13:19energy drinks has has been a challenge specifically for me.
- 13:23And I'm sure that you guys have heard many of the same things, I
- 13:26think. It's hard because we as a
- 13:29society have labeled energy drinks as like energy drinks.
- 13:32So like they're supposed to give you energy, but it's actually
- 13:35like a stimulant drink. It's really not going to give
- 13:37you any energy. And especially like I see it all
- 13:40the time with the the baseball players where like they're on
- 13:42the field for such a long period of time.
- 13:44They're like, oh, I need some energy.
- 13:45Like, I'm just going to reach for this energy drink when it's
- 13:48like, that's actually not solving your problem.
- 13:50That's just a Band-Aid for poor recovery, poor sleep and poor
- 13:53nutrition, like you mentioned. Yeah.
- 13:55And I never had heard that aspect of it where they are on
- 13:58the field for so long, but that makes a ton of sense.
- 14:00Like it's hey, I need to make sure that I'm good in crunch
- 14:02time. So let me just make sure by
- 14:04ripping 2 bangs and some smelling salts, which yeah,
- 14:07blows my mind. That's definitely a good way to
- 14:10think of it is energy drinks are not always an energy giver.
- 14:13Sometimes it's just a Band-Aid, something.
- 14:15That you've said Nate before when we've kind of and I really
- 14:18loved is you've said you have to do your homework before you ask
- 14:23for extra credit. And I think here an energy drink
- 14:26or a stimulant drink. Is that like extra credit
- 14:29because you're ignoring like you're feeling foundation,
- 14:31you're ignoring the sleep, you're ignoring the recovery.
- 14:33Yeah. And.
- 14:34That and that goes back to kind of your initial question on some
- 14:37of the myth busting and like sports rehab specifically is
- 14:40everyone is always scouring social media, whatever it is
- 14:44looking for that extra credit like, oh, I heard that red light
- 14:46therapy is the best thing for me.
- 14:48Where can I go buy one? Like, well, those units run a
- 14:51lot of money and you just investing in a good
- 14:53nutritionist, strength coach and mobility program probably goes a
- 14:57lot further than you searching for that extra like 1%.
- 15:01And it's a good call back by you.
- 15:02I actually had forgotten. I need that gentle reminder
- 15:05every now and again to about some of the sayings.
- 15:07But yeah, exactly. It's the low hanging fruit is
- 15:10always going to be the low hanging fruit, I think, and the
- 15:14extra credit will always come and go based off of what the
- 15:17fads are. But I don't think that a solid
- 15:20nutrition plan, a solid strength plan and a solid mobility plan
- 15:23are going to be anything that gets phased out kind of.
- 15:26About keeping up with this homework theme that we've got
- 15:28going on right now. You mentioned that the injuries
- 15:31increase around finals, which I had no idea.
- 15:33But when it comes to kind of that injury rehab, like, what
- 15:36are some of your top tips for helping athletes like return to
- 15:39play? Yeah.
- 15:39So the first thing is just figuring out where you are and
- 15:44like how far away from that return to play are.
- 15:48And generally if you go and get surgery, you're going to have at
- 15:52least a relative timeline laid out in front of you.
- 15:54Like for to go back to the Tommy John example, hey, you are going
- 15:58to get this surgery on January 1st.
- 16:02It's a 10, it's a 12 to 14 month rehab.
- 16:04So we're looking at early next year when you are back and
- 16:07playing. So that time frame is already
- 16:09established in an athlete's head.
- 16:11And when it's that far out, it's easy to get lost.
- 16:13So the different example would be, oh, you pulled your
- 16:15hamstring, you should be back in like 2 to four weeks.
- 16:18And then anytime past that, the patient or athlete feels like
- 16:22they are behind schedule. And so that's where I think
- 16:25athletes sometimes need to understand that these timelines
- 16:28are more just guidelines because just because you have waited
- 16:31four weeks doesn't mean you're ready to go because rest is not
- 16:34the answer. Like rest is a tool, but it is
- 16:37not the way that you heal. And in that hamstring strain
- 16:40example, if you spend those two to four weeks not doing a Dang
- 16:43thing, you're not going to be much better.
- 16:45And so you need to figure out where you're at in terms of your
- 16:49strength, mobility, coordination, and then be able
- 16:51to get that assessment, figure out what things you could be
- 16:55doing right now to address that and then attack those things
- 16:58because you're not in your sport, you're not on the field,
- 17:00you aren't having your time being taken up by practice,
- 17:03games, competitions, all that stuff.
- 17:05So you do have in general extra time to focus on your rehab and
- 17:09recovery. So just figuring out, hey, I
- 17:11strained my hamstring, but that is a wide range of how
- 17:16significant that strain could be.
- 17:17You could have a 30% reduction in strength, you could have a
- 17:2070% reduction in strength. You could have pain with
- 17:23walking, you could have pain just with end range sprinting.
- 17:25So finding where you are on that continuum and then addressing
- 17:29the correct part of the continuum I think is the most
- 17:32important thing regardless of what you are rehabbing.
- 17:35And so that can be all summarized in don't guess, but
- 17:38just assess. And like that goes back to one
- 17:40thing that I tell a lot of my patients is, look, I'm going to
- 17:43do this comprehensive assessment and figure out where your low
- 17:46hanging fruit is. Usually I can find a couple and
- 17:48it's good news if I don't. So sometimes people come to me
- 17:51and they are frustrated. And when I'm like, things look
- 17:54pretty good, man. Like, I don't think that there's
- 17:56anything you're really missing. Like what do I need to do?
- 17:58What do I need to do? And then that kind of goes back
- 18:00into what we talked about earlier of those, those
- 18:03homeworks. There's there's just low hanging
- 18:04fruits of well, just make sure that you're recovering well,
- 18:07make sure that you're eating right, make sure that you are
- 18:09timing your strength and conditioning well and make sure
- 18:11that you are still keeping up with everything that we know is
- 18:15the low hanging fruit. So that that's kind of the
- 18:17method of like it doesn't need to be like complex and crazy for
- 18:21even the elite athletes. Everyone, I think kind of puts
- 18:24athletes on this pedestal of, oh, well, what are they doing
- 18:27that I'm not like probably nothing like they're you're
- 18:29probably doing the same thing. Some of them are just
- 18:31genetically blessed and some of them are the hardest workers in
- 18:34the room, But more often than not, some of them just got dealt
- 18:38a hand by God that said, hey, you're going to be able to throw
- 18:40a ball 104 without even looking like you're trying.
- 18:43And so that sometimes it's discouraging for people to hear,
- 18:46but it's also the realistic aspect of the athletes aren't
- 18:49doing anything fancy that you might not be.
- 18:51They are just doing the basics really well on top of their just
- 18:56genetics that they may or may not have.
- 18:58Now, granted, if you're not dealt that card, you better be
- 19:01the hardest worker in the room because when you go to college,
- 19:04like, yeah, you might have been a standout in high school, but
- 19:06every single one of your teammates, it's also in the
- 19:08weight room 8 hours a week. They're also in the training
- 19:11room doing their activation and prep.
- 19:12They're also going to the same nutrition halls that you're
- 19:15doing. So what are you doing to set
- 19:16yourself apart from the guy next to you that whose parents were
- 19:20both, you know, NFL athletes, right?
- 19:22So it's sometimes it's a real, it's a reality check for some
- 19:25guys kind of hearing that. But I think it is true that you
- 19:28don't always need to be doing something fancy or different.
- 19:31It can just be the simple stuff that you just need to do really
- 19:34well I feel. Like Riley and I say this all
- 19:36the time, but often the most correct answer in nutrition is
- 19:39the simplest one. And it also always all depends
- 19:42on the specific client, athlete, whoever we're working with, like
- 19:45what's the best for them? And it sounds like there's a lot
- 19:47of crossover there. Yeah.
- 19:49For sure because to use a couple of examples, if I have two high
- 19:52school kids who are 16 and they one of them is 6 foot 4 and 190
- 19:58lbs and one is 5 foot 6. It's 120.
- 20:01There's probably going to be a different approach for each of
- 20:05them depending on their mobility, strength, nutrition,
- 20:08whatever the case may be. And so that's where figuring out
- 20:12how to create an assessment to where you can direct them in the
- 20:16proper channels, because that ends up what I do a lot of times
- 20:20is someone comes to me for an injury and they always want to
- 20:23know why. But it's sometimes hard to pin
- 20:25the tail on the proverbial donkey because injury prevention
- 20:27is a buzzword when it's not really prevention, it's
- 20:29reduction injuries have. So like, what are you going to
- 20:32do to truly prevent an injury? So just figuring out what the
- 20:36best thing for them is, is very valuable in terms of, hey, your
- 20:40strength needs to be better. So here's a strength plan or
- 20:43here's a strength coach. You should go and hit them up or
- 20:45hey, you need to really make sure that you aren't drinking
- 20:48six bangs a day. So go fund, you know, Riley or
- 20:51Jenna and dial in your nutrition to make sure that you have the
- 20:54right energy throughout the day without needing those band aids
- 20:56and things like that. What would?
- 20:57Be your biggest take away, like the biggest thing you would want
- 21:00all the athletes that you work with to know about, like sports,
- 21:03physical therapy, strength training.
- 21:04What do you wish everybody knew? I think this goes for anyone,
- 21:08not just for athletes, but always know that you have a
- 21:10choice. Like always know that even
- 21:12though you go and see a certain doctor, you go and your coach
- 21:15says one thing like you should take some ownership in your
- 21:18rehab, in your health care choices in whatever that may be.
- 21:22And so I've had multiple people who have come to see me for a
- 21:25second opinion because they were going somewhere else and they
- 21:28said, well, we just went where was closest to our house or we
- 21:31just went where the doctor told us.
- 21:33Yes, that should all weigh in and recommendations are big.
- 21:36But you should also be able to do kind of your own audit and
- 21:38make sure that who is in front of you is the best person for
- 21:41you. And so whether that is, you
- 21:43know, our business or not, just always know that there is
- 21:46another option is a big one. And that's just more to make
- 21:49sure that you are seeing the right PT, whether it's a sports
- 21:52PT or not. The other thing that I tell all
- 21:54my athletes is don't let orthopedic issue become a
- 21:56metabolic problem. And what I mean by that is,
- 21:58yeah, you may have, you know, Tommy John, but doesn't mean you
- 22:01can't still go and keep your legs strong and your core strong
- 22:04and your left arm strong and your everything else.
- 22:07So I think the to go back to the point that rest doesn't heal
- 22:09things. Everyone wants to just take some
- 22:11time off and think that they'll come back the exact same and
- 22:14100% fine when the nature is most athletes don't need total
- 22:18rest. They need kind of this
- 22:20controlled rest or figuring out, hey, what can't I do right now?
- 22:23And that's probably the number one question I get from injured
- 22:25athletes is all right, tell me what I can't do because I'm
- 22:27gonna go do everything else that I can.
- 22:28And that those are the guys I love to work with.
- 22:30The kind where I kind of pull in the reins a little bit as
- 22:33opposed to the folks where I need to try and light a fire
- 22:35under their ass and say, Hey, you should be going and do this,
- 22:37this, this. So that's just kind of the thing
- 22:40I find myself repeating a lot to new patients on day one is don't
- 22:43let this become a full Body Issue.
- 22:45Don't let the fact that because you're you had elbow surgery
- 22:48means that the first time you go and Sprint, you pull your hand
- 22:50or the first time you go and throw you hurt your shoulder or
- 22:52something like that. So that's kind of the big one
- 22:54that I've been saying that's on the top of my mind right now.
- 22:57There's a. Lot of that, that also kind of
- 22:59correlates over to nutrition because we see a lot of people,
- 23:03you know, have big goals and then they come and work with us
- 23:06and we see them for, you know, for like an hour a week.
- 23:09And then they expect all of their problems to go away.
- 23:11They have to do the work, like, outside of it, just like when
- 23:15they come to see you. Like if they're not doing the
- 23:16metabolic stuff, if they're not taking care of of the other
- 23:19parts of their life, like they're not magically gonna get
- 23:21better. Yeah.
- 23:22And unfortunately, we're both in the same business where there's
- 23:24not a lot of overnight success, right?
- 23:26Where hey, it's, it's small victories, it's stacking bricks,
- 23:29It's making sure that you are 1% better each and every day.
- 23:32Because when you go back and look at this six months from
- 23:34now, 12 months from now, five years from now, you should be a
- 23:37different person both from a nutrition standpoint, the stuff
- 23:40that you do as well as in some of the rehab stuff or the
- 23:42performance train stuff in the world that I do.
- 23:44So it's fun in the rare instances where I can have that
- 23:48aha light, like holy cow, I have no pain anymore.
- 23:51But realistically, that's few and far between.
- 23:53All right, so. Nate, this is the Eat More Carbs
- 23:55podcast and we have a couple of questions for you.
- 23:57The first one is, what is your favorite carbohydrate?
- 24:00Easy. Answer is pasta in many shapes
- 24:02and ways. I mean, my wife is on a big Do
- 24:06you guys know the Trader Joe's five items or less thing on
- 24:09Instagram? Yeah.
- 24:11So, yeah. So, so that's been our go to of
- 24:14just like, hey, where where are some quick and easy, like good
- 24:17dinners that we can grab? And so she's been doing this
- 24:19one. It's just pasta, pesto, shrimp,
- 24:22lemon. And I want to say one other
- 24:24thing, but God it. It's the best easy, fast thing
- 24:27that we can do, I think. Pasta is winning right now with
- 24:29our guests on on like what on the favorite carbohydrate so a.
- 24:33Second pizza is second. I'd say almost.
- 24:35Say bagels. Bagels we hear a lot because I'm
- 24:38probably making a push for second, but pasta for sure,
- 24:41yeah. Pasta tied with Mac and cheese
- 24:43kind of the same thing. What is your favorite pre
- 24:46workout fuel? Oh.
- 24:47So I'm a I'm a morning workout guy so I am usually at the gym
- 24:51around 7. Not not too crazy but I can't do
- 24:54anything crazy heavy before. So I'm an oatmeals and Berry
- 24:59with my coffee kind of guy. So like just a couple of packs
- 25:02of like brown sugar, cinnamon oatmeal, maybe some raspberries,
- 25:04blueberries, something like that.
- 25:05Just drop them on the in there and then just a coffee.
- 25:08What's your? Favorite post workout fuel
- 25:10trail? Mix.
- 25:10I usually have a bag on me and it's just a handful or two and
- 25:14we're good to go. Easy.
- 25:15And simple stuff works. So we're big shoe people here
- 25:18and Jenna is looking for a pair of running shoes, which this is
- 25:21actually might be perfect, but we would love to hear what your
- 25:25favorite pair of kicks is. Oh.
- 25:26So I had to give a slight story. I had a patient who wanted and
- 25:30Tom told me that was trying to describe someone like, yeah,
- 25:32they were the person with the with the red dunks on.
- 25:34And I was like, all right, well, what did they look like?
- 25:37Like, I don't know. They had the red dunks on.
- 25:38Like I would notice their shoes before I noticed anything else
- 25:41about them. And so like, it just gave me
- 25:43like this insight into how like a high schooler thinks of like,
- 25:46hey, I'm going to notice their shoes before I notice their
- 25:48race, their gender, their hair color, like anything like that.
- 25:51And so I've become kind of a shoe person in the last few
- 25:54years. And now it's just a problem.
- 25:56But I've recently got this pair of low Nike dunks that are golf
- 26:01shoes that I can kind of wear anywhere because just like a lot
- 26:04of retired baseball players, I'm now a golf nut.
- 26:06But those are ones that I wear around the house.
- 26:10I've worn them to a wedding with tux.
- 26:12I've worn them on the golf course.
- 26:13It's an easy answer. Sounds.
- 26:14Very versatile if you can wear it to a wedding and to golf or
- 26:17you just were like, I'm golfing leading up to the wedding, so.
- 26:20You just I plead the fit so. Just like nutrition, it sounds
- 26:23like physical therapy and sports.
- 26:24Physical therapy is very individualized to the client,
- 26:27the athlete, when it comes to figuring out some things that
- 26:30you might specifically want to work on.
- 26:31If you want to follow Nate Harris on Instagram, Nate,
- 26:34what's the best way for people to find you or ask you
- 26:36questions? Yep.
- 26:37So you can find me on Instagram or Velocity at Velocity Sports
- 26:42under score PT Feel free to shoot us a DM and I'll be happy
- 26:46to answer. Can also e-mail me personally at
- 26:48nate@velocitysportspt.org ORG we will.
- 26:52Leave all of Nate's contact information in the podcast
- 26:55description so that way you can find and follow him on social
- 26:58media and reach out if you do have questions.
- 27:00Nate, thank you so much for being on the Eat More Carbs
- 27:02podcast. We've so appreciated you being
- 27:04here and sharing your knowledge on all things that sports
- 27:06related and physical therapy related.
- 27:09Make sure you rate, subscribe and review to the eat more Carbs
- 27:12podcast. If you do have questions for
- 27:14Riley and I, please make sure you leave them in the comments
- 27:16or you can find us on Instagram. We're at the eat more Carbs
- 27:18podcast. You can find Riley on Instagram
- 27:21at Riley dot Beatty dot nutrition and you can find me at
- 27:23Jenna dot Fisher dot nutrition. Thanks again for listening and
- 27:26make sure to eat more carbs.