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The Late Debate | 31 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lateween General, Welcome to the late Base. Well, good evening.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. It's Halloween and Joe Biden is biting babies.
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  Speaker 2: That's got nothing to do with Halloween. That's just Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little later. Plus, when we
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  Speaker 2: look at the papers, water bills in Sydney to jump
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  Speaker 2: by fifty percent as the city struggles to keep up
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  Speaker 2: with population growth, and Anthony Albanesi tells nervous MPs has
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  Speaker 2: nothing to worry about with his frequent flyer scandal. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see all of that is in the papers a
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  Speaker 2: little later, but first, in a move that would make
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  Speaker 2: Dracula proud, Sydney's Inner City Council has literally sucked the
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  Speaker 2: life out of local Halloween celebrations. The local government ghouls
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  Speaker 2: have advised residents that when they're celebrating Halloween, they should
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  Speaker 2: celebrate it in a sustainable rather than spooky way, and
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  Speaker 2: it should be organic rather than occultic, which kind of
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  Speaker 2: defeats the purpose. They put out a social media post
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  Speaker 2: advising residents, let's avoid the horror of single use plastics
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  Speaker 2: during the spooky season. Plastic bugs and synthetic spider webs
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  Speaker 2: are especially dangerous. Wildlife can ingest these items by mistake
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  Speaker 2: or get caught in them.
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  Speaker 1: Leading to injury and death.
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  Speaker 2: We can all enjoy the spookiest Talloween possible without impacting wildlife.
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  Speaker 2: It was reported that the post listed straw, sheeps, will twigs, sticks,
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  Speaker 2: cotton wool, and organic food waste as natural materials that
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  Speaker 2: locals could use. On the other hand, fishing, rope, string, twine, yarn, cottonwool,
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  Speaker 2: and balloons were discouraged under the subheading do not use now.
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  Speaker 2: Local residents have reacted in various ways. Some are really upset,
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  Speaker 2: saying the government should just butt out of their Halloween celebrations.
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  Speaker 2: Others have been upset that they only had this warning
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  Speaker 2: two days out from Halloween, giving them a lack of
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  Speaker 2: time to prepare more sustainable decorations. And then a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of other residents were really upset, saying we've already
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  Speaker 2: put up plastic spiders and cotton spiderwebs, and now our
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  Speaker 2: neighbors are going to judge us as being unenvironmentally friendly.
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  Speaker 2: I would suggest if you're dressing as Satan or a demon,
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  Speaker 2: or a ghost or a vampire, and you're worried about
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  Speaker 2: being seen to be environmentally not friendly.
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  Speaker 1: You're probably doing Halloween all wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But the question I've got Liz and Joe is how
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  Speaker 2: could the council have put out this advice without someone
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  Speaker 2: in management saying no, no, no, this is not a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me wonder if perhaps the council will operating
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  Speaker 2: on skeleton staff.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, James, James, it's just a genuous.
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  Speaker 4: Moment silence to respect the moment in time that comedy died. No,
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  Speaker 4: that was amazing. I live in the Inn West Council.
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  Speaker 4: I live in the out Inn West Council and technically
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  Speaker 4: I identify as a resident of Canterbury Bankstown just to
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  Speaker 4: give some Southwest Sydney cred.
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  Speaker 5: But I can tell you the.
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  Speaker 4: Like anyone who anyone who has written this clearly doesn't
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  Speaker 4: understand how ween the decorations go up young.
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  Speaker 5: The decorations basically start going up in September. Yes, you
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  Speaker 5: go to.
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  Speaker 4: Ashfield Kmart, they're already pushing Halloween stuff in August like
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  Speaker 4: it is just it is the biggest seeing of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Now with kids, they get more excited about this than
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  Speaker 4: anything else. Yes, that's because they're a bunch of godless
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  Speaker 4: pagan Satan worshipers. But it's nice because they're kids and
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  Speaker 4: everything is geared to us. Like you know, you go
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  Speaker 4: to Camar, everything is like a dollar. It's all plastic,
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  Speaker 4: it's all despisable. So firstly, if they are actually going
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  Speaker 4: to put something like this out, for the love of God,
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  Speaker 4: I at least know your audience, know your rate payers,
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  Speaker 4: and do it with more than two days to go. Secondly,
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  Speaker 4: look straw sheep's wool. It's a lot of lannel and
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  Speaker 4: sounds a bit greasy. It sticks to twigs or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But organic food waste? How are you meant to use
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  Speaker 4: organic food waste?
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  Speaker 1: What to do?
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  Speaker 5: What I mean?
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  Speaker 4: I've had I had a live actual part can be
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  Speaker 4: carved out and actually decomposed and became food waste on
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  Speaker 4: top of the gate in real time. But it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: food waste to start with. And then I'm saying food
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  Speaker 4: the same food white, So what are they I don't
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  Speaker 4: get it.
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  Speaker 5: What are we.
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  Speaker 3: Missing to decorate the house in rotting food?
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  Speaker 6: What is there not to understand? Look about this.
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  Speaker 3: Directive from the council, The question is what's next? Are
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  Speaker 3: you going to tell people don't put up Christmas decorations.
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  Speaker 3: Can't have fairy lights anymore. That's churning through electricity that
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't be used.
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  Speaker 6: We've got to.
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  Speaker 3: Save the planet, seriously, but out of people's lives, especially
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  Speaker 3: while giving you're a local council, we're going to assume
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  Speaker 3: you're probably not on top of roads, rates and rubbish,
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  Speaker 3: because none of you guys are nowadays. So here they
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  Speaker 3: are lecturing people when, like you say, if any of
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  Speaker 3: them took a drive through the.
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  Speaker 6: Inner West, they would have recognized this ship.
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  Speaker 3: Has already sailed. Okay, people have had their decorations up
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  Speaker 3: for the better part of a month, and now you
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  Speaker 3: decide to send out missive to your residents and rate
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  Speaker 3: payers just to preach at them for having a bit
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  Speaker 3: of fun, but out of people's lives, And of course
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  Speaker 3: then they always get the like, oh no, we are
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  Speaker 3: doing the right thing, by the handful of Karens, who then.
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  Speaker 6: Get in touch with them and are quoted.
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  Speaker 3: In this article saying thank you for calling this out,
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  Speaker 3: can you just please bean it all together next year?
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  Speaker 6: And speaking of Karens.
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  Speaker 3: While staying in the Inner West, one lady has taken
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  Speaker 3: to social media to post to her community at large
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  Speaker 3: to say, please don't be putting up fake spiders because
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  Speaker 3: I suffer from arachnophobia, which is a fear of spiders,
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  Speaker 3: as you most likely already know.
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  Speaker 6: So please, can everyone just know spiders?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Check out this neighbor who put a ginormous spider in
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  Speaker 3: her vicinity not having seen her post. Obviously this wasn't deliberate,
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  Speaker 3: but she was making reference to it in her post,
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  Speaker 3: saying I can't even walk down this road anymore. People
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  Speaker 3: need to take their spiders down.
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  Speaker 6: Here's a local legend though.
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  Speaker 3: Defending his neighbors ginormoust Halloween spider.
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  Speaker 7: This house behind us has sparked a little bit of
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  Speaker 7: controversy on social media, with some arachnophobes saying they don't
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  Speaker 7: like the fact that there's a massive spider there and
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  Speaker 7: it's scary and they can't actually walk past the house.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the decorations.
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  Speaker 8: I think the decorations are fantastic. I believe the decorations
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  Speaker 8: bring fun to the community, to the kids.
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  Speaker 6: Now, anybody that says they're enclophobia whatever it's called.
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  Speaker 8: A few of spiders, Okay, if that spider was real,
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  Speaker 8: I'd be scared of that spider.
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  Speaker 6: But that spider's plastic.
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  Speaker 8: So this complaining about it is just a wage generation.
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  Speaker 6: It's stupid, and.
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  Speaker 8: Just enjoy it for what it is, because the person
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  Speaker 8: who puts it up puts a lot of effort to
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  Speaker 8: get that up there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, said Perry, This wokes generation life hard, get a helmet,
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  Speaker 3: stuck it up, buttock up. But seriously, what's next from
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  Speaker 3: these councils.
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  Speaker 6: What are they going to start there.
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  Speaker 3: Eaching at people saying you've got to buy the toilet
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  Speaker 3: paper made out of recycled paper.
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  Speaker 6: These guys just.
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  Speaker 3: Seem to find ways every single other day to preach
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  Speaker 3: their own values.
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  Speaker 4: Sound like you put up you know, you put up
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  Speaker 4: a plastic spider. You know, you get the Inner West
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  Speaker 4: council all upset because they think that a plastic spider
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  Speaker 4: is actually more dangerous and deadly and scary than a
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  Speaker 4: real spider. I think maybe the Greens have gotten back
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  Speaker 4: in charge overnight or something and taken over from Darcy,
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  Speaker 4: and then if you put a real giant spider on
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  Speaker 4: your house, suddenly their actifobes are upset.
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  Speaker 1: Well, an answer to your question is whider councils do this?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's easier putting out a missive encouraging people
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  Speaker 2: to use organic waste for Halloween than it is to
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  Speaker 2: fill potholes mow lawns in local parks.
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  Speaker 1: It just strips clean. So it's just.
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  Speaker 4: Can I say, if people wanted to see organic waste
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  Speaker 4: and real life skeletons, they could have come to my
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  Speaker 4: student sharehouse in the nineteen nineties, not just all October
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  Speaker 4: thirty one, any night of the way you like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Climate Council have worn that climate change is
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  Speaker 2: no Halloween trick, but rather things grim.
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  Speaker 1: The CSIRO have released.
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  Speaker 2: Their twenty twenty four report warning of warmer temperatures and
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  Speaker 2: rising sea levels, which I suppose is why the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister now has a house on the beach front. But
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  Speaker 2: Climate Council CEO Amanda Mackenzie said climate pollution is hitting
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  Speaker 2: Australian families hard and the consequences are playing out in
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  Speaker 2: real time, making our fire seasons longer and the rain
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  Speaker 2: to arrive in sudden heavy downpaurs. Unfortunately, the State of
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  Speaker 2: the Climate report is not a Halloween trick. It's a
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  Speaker 2: grim reminder that we have no time to waste. It's
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  Speaker 2: a frightening read. She says, one of my favorite parts
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  Speaker 2: about the Climate Council's take on the CSIRO report is
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  Speaker 2: they said that every Australian should be scared reading this.
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  Speaker 1: It's a frightening read.
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  Speaker 2: And then they go on in their press release to
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  Speaker 2: decry the fact that there is so much existential stress,
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  Speaker 2: particularly amongst young people worried about climate shape.
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  Speaker 3: They go on to talk about people's mental health.
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  Speaker 6: You don't think you might be a driving factor in
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  Speaker 6: that people.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you can take this science with a massive
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  Speaker 3: cup of salt, I would suggest, given it is generated
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  Speaker 3: by their CSIRO and the Bureau of Meteorology, both government
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  Speaker 3: funded and therefore sadly taxpayer funded bodies. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know about you, but I've looked up enough research to
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  Speaker 3: know that you can pretty much figure out the outcome
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  Speaker 3: of any research before it's finished if you just look
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  Speaker 3: at its funders.
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  Speaker 6: Would go so far as.
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  Speaker 3: To say, we're never going to get anything out of
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  Speaker 3: either of these organizations. That would have said otherwise, it's
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  Speaker 3: always a matter of which experts you're listening to in
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  Speaker 3: this space, and we all know that anyone who disagrees
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  Speaker 3: with them is gagged in a cupboard somewhere and never
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  Speaker 3: gets to see sunlight.
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  Speaker 4: You talk about funding leads, but I want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about fun and the spin doctors that put the fun
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  Speaker 4: into funding, because everything you can guarantee.
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  Speaker 5: Just like the Inner West Council.
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  Speaker 4: Says, let's avoid the horror of single use plastics during
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  Speaker 4: the spooky season, the Climate Council says, Unfortunately, the State
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  Speaker 4: of the Climate report is not a Halloween trick.
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  Speaker 5: It's a grim reminder. It's frightened to it.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, just don't do if you're going to just
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  Speaker 4: scare the Jesus out of people, just do that.
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  Speaker 5: Like, don't don't do the dad joke y. Just leave
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  Speaker 5: that to the professional.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to people to jude you seriously, maybe
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  Speaker 3: leave Halloween out.
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  Speaker 6: Of it, but genuinely.
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  Speaker 4: Will there isn't just a Hollywood sequel with a global conflict.
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  Speaker 3: We know that roughly forty percent of our main energy
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: is already powered by clean energy. We know our inept
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  Speaker 3: government is getting up that percentage as fast as it
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  Speaker 3: possibly can.
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  Speaker 6: What do these people want to do? What more do
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  Speaker 6: they want from us?
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  Speaker 3: We are already paying for this green dream every single
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  Speaker 3: day and every single way.
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  Speaker 6: Things are only going to get worse. For US power
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  Speaker 6: prices are only going to get more expensive.
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  Speaker 3: They're only going to ban the wooden cutlery next because
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  Speaker 3: all the plastics are gone, et cetera, et cetera, and
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  Speaker 3: so on. The sacrifices that people are going to be
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  Speaker 3: continue to be asked to make, despite the fact Australia
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  Speaker 3: is still only responsible for one point three percent of
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  Speaker 3: global emissions.
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  Speaker 6: Reading this report, you'd think we.
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  Speaker 3: Were at China sitting on thirty five percent of global emissions.
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  Speaker 6: What more do they want?
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  Speaker 3: The reason why I think they still generate these things
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  Speaker 3: is to add credence to what the government is going
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  Speaker 3: to not only continue to ask from you, but in.
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  Speaker 2: Single it's parts of the Climate Council precis that really
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  Speaker 2: amuse me. They say, we are now living in an
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  Speaker 2: era of climate consequences. What is a climate consequence? It's hot,
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  Speaker 2: so I wear shorts as a consequence. Talking about that
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  Speaker 2: perfectly happening climate pollution is hitting Australian family is hard.
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  Speaker 1: What's climate pollution? I mean, I know exhaust but where
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  Speaker 1: the pasterns now pollution goes.
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  Speaker 6: They're not talking.
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  Speaker 3: About clean air, though, are they They're like, no, it's climate.
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  Speaker 4: But I think that The problem is that, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure all the facts in this report are true
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, and politically and psychologically it is just such
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  Speaker 4: a strut.
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  Speaker 6: The bomb hasn't gotten any.
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  Speaker 4: The worst thing you can possibly do as to this
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  Speaker 4: point is I be climate catastrophs, because then when any
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  Speaker 4: of your predictions don't come true, this will be all
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  Speaker 4: over you like a rational a baby and she.
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  Speaker 5: Like a cheap suit, like a like Al Gore on
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  Speaker 5: a turkey.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, that's that's a better.
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  Speaker 4: All over it good point being. And many of my
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: other friends who think it's all a lot of bunkom
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  Speaker 4: as well, will say, well, look, you got this completely wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Why should we trust any of it?
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  Speaker 6: And that's what happens, Like all the farmers, you've got
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  Speaker 6: to from the.
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  Speaker 5: Really extreme predictions. That's right.
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  Speaker 4: And the other thing is that it just makes people
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  Speaker 4: switch off if people think it's all too hard. And
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  Speaker 4: again studies have been done by this. Political campaigners know it.
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  Speaker 4: If you say it's all rooted, and no matter what
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  Speaker 4: you do, it'll still be rooted because we're already dealing
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  Speaker 4: with the consequences and it's already too late. But you
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  Speaker 4: still have to ruin your lives to fix it anyway,
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  Speaker 4: people just say, well, nah, that's instantly goes into the
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  Speaker 4: too hard basket. And of course people right now are
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: thinking about anything but long term consequences or whatever, because
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: they're trying to just get both cost of living so
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: they'd be much better off. They just said, look, here
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  Speaker 4: are the things that are doing. Liz just presented the
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  Speaker 4: fantastic news that we're getting about forty percent of our
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  Speaker 4: power from renewables because of Chris Bowen's.
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  Speaker 5: Great works as fast as canon.
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  Speaker 4: It's going so fast that they're bringing more and more
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  Speaker 4: projects online a head of schedule, and so you can
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  Speaker 4: say that to people, and again, I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people won't agree with those projects, but look, this
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  Speaker 4: is happening. It's going to be okay, And as long
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  Speaker 4: as we keep doing this, it's going to be all right.
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  Speaker 6: Why are we.
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  Speaker 3: Still squandering tax payers which is literal just fabs.
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  Speaker 5: Humorous bureaucrats and humorless.
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  Speaker 4: There's an entire industry obviously around this where they just
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  Speaker 4: need to keep making more dire and die predictions. They
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  Speaker 4: don't realize it's a form of sort of self perpetuating
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  Speaker 4: virtue signaling among the kind of bureaucratic, you know, white
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  Speaker 4: collar left, and they don't realize how off putting it
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  Speaker 4: is to.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone else except them.
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  Speaker 4: And again it's a mistake that you left elites or
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them make all the time
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  Speaker 4: where they think everyone just agrees with them. Everyone sits
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: around at their dinner parties and talks about how terrible
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  Speaker 4: climate change is. Everyone reads the post from the Inn
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  Speaker 4: West Council on Facebook.
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  Speaker 5: Tam good point. I'm glad someone called this out. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I imagine thinking I'm glad someone.
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  Speaker 4: Called out single use Halloween decorations interestinate the Karens.
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  Speaker 5: But again and the Karens and the climate jeez to
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  Speaker 5: all the camps. I realized I wrote it. I wrote
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  Speaker 5: a com about it has to be publish yet.
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  Speaker 4: But the left doesn't realize how utterly hateable they are
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  Speaker 4: to everyone else when they go on like this, that
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  Speaker 4: normal people look at them and just go.
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  Speaker 5: What the what world are you living? Just go away,
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  Speaker 5: leave me alone.
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  Speaker 1: I mean chatter.
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  Speaker 2: This headline from the Guardian cold start to spring caes
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  Speaker 2: Australians lose use thirty more gas than last year, even
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  Speaker 2: though the price was up to and the Guardian report
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  Speaker 2: this like this is some amazing fare. You people need cheap,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: reliable energy and renewables aren't cheap and they're definitely not
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  Speaker 2: reliable and it gets completely power.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing with this the whole you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's grim. It's not a Halloween trick. It's grim.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time we're talking about Anthony alban
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  Speaker 2: easy flying all over the world using Quantus frequent flyer points.
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  Speaker 2: This should scare the mission, and yet we've.
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  Speaker 1: Got flights everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure Alan Joyce offset them for it. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: all fine.
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  Speaker 4: Still going to teacup everybody, does they come on? You
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  Speaker 4: would to anyway?
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back to that great.
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  Speaker 5: Story from pages of the Daily Telegraph today.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely huge albow otherwise obviously doing a fantastic job in
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  Speaker 4: every single spear that he turns his mind to. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 4: the Albanezi government has been likened to Indigenous mission managers,
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  Speaker 4: which if you want to leave three history books, is
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  Speaker 4: not a good thing. Who are disregarding the voice of
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  Speaker 4: Aboriginal communities. An explosive meeting of New South Wales Land Councils. Now,
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  Speaker 4: this all has to do with a mine near the
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  Speaker 4: town of Orange or gold mine that was worth about
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  Speaker 4: a billion dollars. It's called the Blaming Mine. And what
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  Speaker 4: happened was the local Aboriginal Land Council said, yes, we
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  Speaker 4: want it.
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  Speaker 5: It's great, it's fantastic.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: It's going to give us jobs, it's going to generate
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: a huge amount of income for the community. It's going
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: to make a huge amount of economic benefit for indigenous astrante,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: which is exactly what the PM once. Good on him,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: he said, that's going to be the new practical way
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: we move forward now that we don't have the other voice. Fine, fantastic, terrific,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: really really good state government. They had to look at
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: it terms absolutely fantastic, awesome, We're we're going to get
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: two hundred million bucks worth of royalties. Sweet as what
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: could possibly go wrong. We get money. The local Indigenous
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: community is happy. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic. Then at the eleventh hour,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: some random group that no one has ever heard of,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: this random, weird breakaway described as fringe Indigenous, a cultural
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: group that again no one's ever heard of, including the
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: actual official Indigenous local groups, springs up and says Tania
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Plibu sec Oh, no, there's some kind of weird bluebellied
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: bee that no one's ever heard of. And the story
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: of the dreaming of this bee takes place near the
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: river where this tailings dam of this gold mine is
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: going to You're keeping up, everybody is going to be right.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: So an imaginary bee that no one's ever heard of,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: that appears to have been invented by this person, by
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a group no one else, no one ever heard of it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: But as farisman I has a tiny amount of members,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: and this person is there spokesper is now stopping this
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: one billion dollar development. And that is why these people
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: are meeting, and that is why they are absolutely filthy,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: because the government, having just promised to deliver economic benefits
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to indigenous communities through economic development, has just done the
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: very opposite thing with this decision. And it's entirely based
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: on what appears to be an entirely imaginary, without foundation,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: so called dreaming story that none of the other official
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: actual Aboriginal elders in the region appear to have heard
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: And there's more give it to us. It turns out.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: That the woman at the head of this new organization,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: which specializes in Indigenous cultural heritage, used to work at
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: the same local Aboriginal land Council that wants to go
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: ahead with this mind but spoiler alert, she was an Indigenous,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: or at least she wasn't then she didn't identify despite
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: working for the Indigenous Land Council at that time.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: The head of the local Aboriginal Land Council.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Orange Aboriginal Land Council said at this meeting that she
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: was there when this other person worked there, and what
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: when she worked for us, she didn't identify as Indigenous
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, now she's an Aboriginal woman, curious
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: heir and curious heir.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So the allegation is that Tenure Plivasek wanted to stop.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to bring her name into mine.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I know people will find this very difficult to believe,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: but apparently she was trying to plus sate Greens in
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: her electorate to shore up her own vote.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: So I have to do the work in placate a
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: reason plicate was it placate whatever she was to.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Make them happy?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And so what with the official local Land Council saying
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we're happy with this mine, She needed to find some
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Indigenous people who were not happy and it didn't matter
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: how indigenous or not indigenous.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: They really were.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So that's the big beef that the local Aboriginal Land
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: councils now have. They're accusing the government of going out
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and in the words of Nathan Moran from the Metro
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Local Aboriginal Land Council, they're finding stat deck blackfellows.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Those are his words.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Basically, anybody who will identify as Indigenous support what the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: government already want, and then they'll use that as their
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: excuse to cancel developments in order to not help Indigenous
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: people but to shore up votes with the Greens.
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: And how's this right?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Because a lot of Indigenous people would be watching this
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: play out go well, hang on a minute, even if
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: we did get the voice, would you just sweep them
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: aside when the decisions.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: That they make aren't up your alley?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Because that is exactly what the Albanesi government has done
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: here the Local Aboriginal Land Council, as Joe explained, the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: state government wanted it, the Local Aboriginal Land Council wanted it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: This was going to be very good money wise for
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: everyone around, everyone involved. And then Plemacet comes along and
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: because these randos who claim to be Indigenous, but we're
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: told their spokesperson isn't sounds like she could have sour grapes.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Oh my bad, my bad. Then we're just tossed aside.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: So why do you have us Aboriginal land councils. Why
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: do you pay us this fake homage? Say that we're
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: really important, say that we get to have a very chunky,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: decent say in such matters, and then once we've made
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a decision, you just wipe it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Off the table like nothing's happened.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Here's Annette Steele speaking at the local Aboriginal Land Council.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: She's the chief executive here.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: This is the line that's made the headline, her accusing
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: the Albanese government.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: Of course, Joe wasn't going to go this hard on them, wasn't. No,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I'm making up for.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Accusing the Albanese government of being no better than mission
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: managers back in the day.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But it's a federal decision.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: The federal decision is always out of rule the state.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: It's a bit like.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Mission managers, you know, yes.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: The state that say to the state, yes, we hear you,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: we know, we understand what you want, and then do
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: the exact bloody of a server.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: We'll tell you what you want, We'll tell you what
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: you need.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And that's all you've got.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: So that's my kind of beach to set.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Off the day.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I know it's probably cold comfort to the Land council,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: but at least you know you're not being treated any.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: Better than the rest of us.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: That is, that is how all tax pay is here
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: in a struck treated.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: We tell them what we want, we get nothing. We
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: come with our begg and go we get ignored.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: So listening to that, I was like, you know what
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: we often strike up about the lack of equality and
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: how Indigenous people get seen to have more of a
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: say in different parts and in land councils and all
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: sorts of land claims.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: At least in this respect they're being treated exactly.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Think that's right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I think that what you can't say in defense this
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: is not an outcome, or this isn't something where Tanya
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Plippers said, right, I've got to find a mind to
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: block and I need someone to say it. I think
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: she's been played off a break. I think she's under
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: obviously a huge amount of pressure from the Greens and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: from get Up in her electorate, which is very very lefty.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: They're constantly protesting against her, sending petitions against her, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I think when she saw this come through and thought,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: oh god, this is of indigenous significance, she would have thought,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: oh no, I can't be responsible for another Duke on George. Yes,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Duke and Gorge. You know they're going to kill me
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: for it. But I don't think it was something she
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: was going out of her way.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I think she just got panicked.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I think she panicked and made what she thought was
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: a genuinely nice, you know, genuinely thought the right decision.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: But she's been played by these people who do not
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: seem to speak for the actual It's.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: So transparently like nobody's not seen through this. One of
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: my favorite quobcom and it still was, do not use
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Aboriginal culture as a political tool to over turn decisions
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: or use it as a strategic.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Framework to keep the Greens on side?
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: What you did it?
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: And it does seem to be the case of you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: someone from there thinking they're helping out with people, but
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: actually not knowing what you're going on.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: Sankfully.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: One government body that does listen to the concerns of
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Indigenous people and arguably to the exclusion of all else, is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: The Paramatter City Council. Go power power on the ra
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: a few times.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Paramattat City Council has been criticized for having both too
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: many strategies but not enough Liberal Council councilor Stephen Issa
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: has panned the council's end of term report it's called
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the State of the City Report, having too many strategies
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: but not enough practical outcomes categories such as the environment
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and housing. But the real kicker here is the diversity
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: category that fell short of solid projects for the fifty
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: three percent of people born overseas from one hundred and
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: thirty two countries, but only ticked the box of what
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: they were doing for indigenous diversity. So well, this a
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: little bit of diversity over here, But all the other stuff,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: all the other backgrounds that come from thirty different countries
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: and make up a much greater volume of the population,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: we just sort of haven't done anything about. So they
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: can only deal with one diversity, which by definition diverse
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: they claim.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: They claim they're meeting their diversity targets by doing things
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: for zero point eight percent of the population that's the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: indigenous population. In paramatter, one hundred and thirty two countries
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: ignored thirty different religions ignored, but zero point eight percent
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: of the population some programs for them diversity achieved. The
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: other thing that this liberal councilor brought up was that
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: they have He said, I'd give the council an a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: plus for strategies, just no outcomes. But he said, they've
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: got force strategies for LGBTQ people in Paramatta, but not
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a single strategy for cost of living, trying to help
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: people with mortgage stress, anything like that. So thick a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: box issues that councils are committed to. When you dig
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: down into the detail, there's nothing there.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Pure hot air. That is what you are funding with
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: your rates.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry to tell you another story of such
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a smuzzle.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: But to the US now where we know.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yesterday Joe Biden was caught on camera saying in an
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: interview that Trump supporters were garbage. Well, in typical Trump style,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: he's just leaned right into this landing in Wisconsin today
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to start campaigning in what is a crucial swing state.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: He had a Trump branded garbage truck meet him at
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: the airport and climb aboard to give this important message.
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: I think that the comment pay by really both of them,
• 27:08
  Speaker 10: because you're really two of them about being garbage. Maybe
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: two hundred and fifty million people, they shouldn't be talking.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: That's like deplorable Vail.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: This is the deplorable Hilary. And I think this is worse.
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: Actually, how do you like my garbage truck? This took
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: is an honor of Kamala and Joe Biden.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: You got to hand it to his PR team. They
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: do not miss anything. Then, of course he took to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the stage in Wisconsin and still was beating the same drum.
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: You can't be president if you hate the American people,
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: which I believe they do.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Is he wrong? Is he wrong?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love this from Trump and he's still
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: got his sanitary outfit, being like.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, I'm a sanitary worker. He was also doing the
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: YMCA dance. You know, that jerky dance that he does
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: is very.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Iconic Trump dance, but he left it on the entire
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: rally and it's just it's made another iconic Trump moment.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So while the Dems are calling hundreds of millions of
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Americans trash, He's like, well, I'll show you what trash is.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Shape demonstrates the difference between Democrats and Republicans in the US.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: When when the Democrats get upset, they cry, they riot, they.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Loot department stores.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: But when the Republicans get upset, they create funny memes.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: They turn it into a joke, and they make light
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: of the whole thing.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: People have been.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Creating all sorts of videos going viral online.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this one.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Someone has tweeted, my whole neighborhood has just voted for
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Here's the video evidence. And someone else after.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden said mega supporters a garbage, said here's the.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Video of me and my mate on our way to
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: vote for Trump. Honestly, Joe, when you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Respond with humor, you just can't lose. You win the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: argument every time when you respond with human.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Well, again, that's right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: And this is exactly the same as Hillary Clinton's deplorables moment,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: where she referred to half of Trump's voters as a
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: basket of deplorables. And all of a sudden you saw
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: all of social media light up with people changing their
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: official their official program deplorable.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: And again, partly.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Because it's just so absolutely absurd, you see the number
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: of people doing that, you think, well, they can't all
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: be deplorables. Otherwise, the whole country is deplorable. And again
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: this idea, I mean this idea that the left has
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: by sneering at or looking down on their opponents or
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: saying that they're not actually you know, it starts with saying, oh,
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: they're not educated enough. We don't want to say that
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: they're poor, white trash, they're just not educated enough. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: they saw that after the Voice referendum result. And then
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: it just goes on and on and on until you
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: have people saying the quiet bit out loud.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: And this is what Joe Biden does.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Again, what an amazing intervention from Joe Biden a week
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: out less than from the pole. Trump is actually in
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: the frame and in a bit of trouble for having
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: the comedian make the joke about Puerto Rico, and so
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: there's a bit of you know, there's a bit of backlash.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: You know, some people are saying there's hundreds of thousands
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: of Puerto Ricans in you know, say Pennsylvania for example,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: and this could maybe turn that swing start. It's about
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: the only hope that Kamla Harris has got. I mean, honestly,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: if you're pinning all your hopes on that, good luck.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: But who knows.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Praying for a miracle, the closest she's actually got to
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: maybe just pulling off Americal win. And what is Joe
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Biden ther He says, oh help, and don't forget.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: He said that when she's giving a speech talking about
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: how we need to unite Americans by to stop pointing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: fingers and instead join arms.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Contradicted in the same brank.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But Biden did not help, by the and they don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: garb it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: But this is the thing that they do.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: They have been so utterly and this is just the
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: latest in the most catastrophically incompetent campaign from two of
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the most catastrophically incompetent and yet somehow incredibly vain and
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: egotistical people I have ever seen in politics anywhere ever.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: And the Democrats cannot be rewarded for this. The Democrats
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: have to lose this election for the sake of American democracy,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: because if they think that they can pull this off
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: and get their levers on the nuclear codes and their
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: hands on the most powerful nation on the planet after
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: such absolute incompetence, making the wrong decision after wrong decision
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: every single step of the way, from using the courts
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: to prosecuting him from failing to tell Joe Biden that
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: he had to step down when they had the chance,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: then being too late after public blasting, and then putting
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: in the worst possible candidate, the candidate who did worst
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: in the Democratic primaries leading up to twenty two. We
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: ever got Albacamo effectively installed as president without having to
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: go through any primary at all in the next election.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: This is madness.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: And these guys say that Trump is a threat to democracy,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: and these guys have been pissing all over the.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Another reason, another reason why these guys have to lose,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: if that brilliant tirade wasn't enough for you, is all
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: their campaigning on is lies.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: While Trump is on.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: The ground in Wisconsin doing his best to win over
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the swing state, so is Kamala Harris. And look what
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: she's telling this rally here. You will remember every single
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: one of these talking points that she's making in the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: clip you're about to see, Trump has denounced repeatedly ad nauseum,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: and less than a week out to the election, it's
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: still all.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: They've got outright lies.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: He would ban abortion nationwide, yes even here in Wisconsin,
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: and he would restrict access to birth control. But IVF
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: treatments at risk.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about, lady, the Trump administration. I'm
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: just freaking it into being power of the spoken word.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: The Trump camp has said from the very beginning, because
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the Marla campaign has been beating this drum as soon
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: as the feet hit the ground in this campaign, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: the Trump campaign has been batting away these allegations from
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the very beginning. Here we are days out to polling
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: day and they're still just telling out right lies. Are
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: we talking about such a highly emotive issue. They know
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: that they can still get votes out.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I got confused for a second. Are were talking about
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the American election or the Queensland election? It is a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: little bit rare similar. I mean, Donald Trump is not
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: banning abortion, as you said. He gave the decision back
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: to the people by allowing the state and make that decision.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: So when it comes to the Democrats, black is white,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: up is down. Everything is topsy turvy with them. They
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: accuse him of violating democracy when he's the one trying
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to give decisions back to the people. They're the ones
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: lying and trying to impose their will upon people without
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: opportunity for them to vote. Just before we go to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: a break, I need you guys to help me with
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: my Netflix viewing, because there's a program on Netflix at
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the moment that is very popular. People have recommended it
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to me. I have not watched it yet. The Mendez brothers, Menandez,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: who apparently murdered their parents, and so the Netflix series
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: goes into all of that. But now there's news that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: because of that series and the publicity generated, yes, they
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: could actually be released from prison though they murdered their parents.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Help me understand this and do I need to watch
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: this program?
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: So this was back in the eighties, Correct me if
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I'm wrong, Joe. They did indeed murder their parents. That
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't in any dispute.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: They agreed, yes, we tiled our parents.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: But then what came out in the original trial was
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that well, actually the original trial fell over. The next
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: trial they alleged that they had been sexually abused by
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: their parents.
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  Speaker 6: And now given is actually a.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Really interesting study in how society has changed over time,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: because over the last forty years, people's awareness understanding of
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: sexual abuse, especially towards children, has changed exponentially, grown massively,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: and so now you've got all this awareness raising by
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: these Netflix programs. One of them's a movie, so it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: a a docrum, yes at dramatization, and another one is
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: a documentary and you're listening to the brothers speak from jail.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: So this has raised a heap of awareness about their case.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: In particular, there's people holding rallies outside of courts and
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the jail in which the brothers have been for a
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: very long time now, saying set them free, set them free.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: So just last week they were granted approval to basically
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: be resentenced. Have they done the time? The sticky part
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: in all of this is there's no proof. How could
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you possibly have proof of allegations of sexual assault that
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: date back to the eighties. The parents are obviously dead,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: so they can't bring a case to defend themselves. It's
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: a very very interesting one to watch, and I do
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: recommend watching it because you yourself are torn as more
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: and more facts come to lights as you keep watching
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: the episode.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: Isn't it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: It's a weird kind of and I make no pronouncement
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: on their yellow innocence, but it's a weird. It's actually
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: a kind of incredibly sophisticated trial by media, like would
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: actually say, countless cases in recent years where if there's
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: someone out of jail who you think should be in jail,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: you just make a podcast or a Netflix series about them,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: and in they go, And that's happened. If there's someone
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: in jail who you think should be out of jail,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: you just make a Netflix series or a podcast about them,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: and out they come.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: And you know.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: It didn't work for the making of a murderer guy.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: No, but it did work for ad Nan said who
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: who the first real sort of massive true crime podcast serial.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: They went through it in a Baltimore case I think
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: it was, and he I believe, got released. And it
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: worked for the Teacher's Pet Headley Thomas's podcast for The Australian,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: in which a guy who'd been out of you know,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: walking free for decades, suddenly after this podcast and amazing,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: like terminator like reporting back in he goes.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: So pair of Project Media, huh, we're going to go.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: To a break.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: including Anthony Albanezi trying to reassure his MPs there's nothing
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: to worry about with the Quantus Frequent flyer fiasco.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well we'll see in just a moment. Welcome back.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Well as if it's not bad enough that power prices
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: are going up. Water prices are going up in Sydney
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: as well, Joe.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's on the front page of tomorrow's Telegraph.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's absolutely right.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: The greatest newspaper in the universe is leading with the
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: story Bill Shock on Tap, which is also the first
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: time I believe the Telly has used the phrase Bill
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Shock in a splash without referring to Bill Shorten. So remember,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: but water changes to jump fifty percent in population, but
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: water bells are set to jump by more than fifty
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: percent over the next five years to keep up with
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Sydney's booming population growth.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: And that's obviously the.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Cost associated with building all the new infrastructure and upgrading.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I've got to tell you, I accidentally looked at my
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: power bill the other day and they are just going.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Through the room.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I've been deliberately just thinking, I can't even bear to
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: think about it. I know that we're hemorrhaging money and stuff,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: but that does not surprise me. Fifty percent in five years,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it seems that every ut was just going shower once
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: a week, burn bom, boom.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Nothing for the garden, And why already.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Shower once a week people keep people keep being assured
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: that the government's doing everything they can about cost of living,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and then you keep waking up to headlines like this.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Although it has to be said that inflation has come down,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: it is two point eight percent and otherloid power bills
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: and fuel especially among those things that are falling. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: a bit of good news, but still no rate cut
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: till after Christmas.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: Until I feel it at the Bowser.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying hallelujah to the front page of the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: odds Now. Mainstream versus elite chasm widens ahead of federal
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: election fight.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: The wadening gulf.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Between Australia's elite and mainstream classes is carving out a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: two speed electuate, forcing Anthony Albanezi and Peter Dutton to
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: shore up some more support among splintering voter bases in
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: previously safe Alp and Coalition heartlands.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Love a good class war.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Nothing makes a elections more interesting than a good class war.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: And have we got that? Have we got that illustration?
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: Can you see that at home?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe too small, but the numbers are extremely interesting.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: It's huge.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so what we're seeing And again people, I've been
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: warning about it for years.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: You look at what's happening in America and Trump where
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: you have.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Workers, people of lower education, lower incomes, they are turning
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: away from the labor or labor aligned parties that are
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: supposed to be representing them and turning to populous candidates,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: and reflected in the Brexit result, was reflected in Trump's
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: twenty sixteen results, I suspectedly reflected in Trump's twenty twenty
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: four result. And it's what's happening in Australia as well,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: where you're seeing, for example, Peter Dutton and the Coalition
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: because they're sort of more muscular now, they don't have
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: to worry about all those LATI DA Teel seats and
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: they're able to appeal more directly to tradees for example.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: So trade is blue collar workers are now sweeing to done. Now,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: if blue collar workers are actually turning away from the
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: labor Party, well that it's just not the labor party anymore.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just not so sure that it's an issue of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: education or wage. There's a lot of people whose success
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: depends on, you know, complying with the narrative, right, So
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the division here elites are more likely to support strong
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: action on climate change than non elites. The elites are
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: more likely to say that migration is a great thing
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: that's making the country better, as opposed to non elites
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: who say that they believe immigration is changing the country
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and they fundamentally don't like it. It's the elites who
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: are more likely to say safety and crime is not
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: so much of a problem than the non elites who
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: say this is a big problem. When you get people
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: working in the public service, the art, certain sections of
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: the media, climate change, immigration, all those things, I mean,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you've got to toe that lot.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Reason it's otherwise.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: The reason it's linked to education and wiage is because
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: if you've got a tertiary education, you're far more likely
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: to believe in all that stuff that we just mentioned.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: You're far more likely to earn more money. That means
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: you are more likely to live in a nice area
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: where you are less likely exposed to shrime. It means
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: you're more likely to live in a big house in
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: a less crowded area, which means that immigration is less
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: of an issue for you. It means you're comfortable enough
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: to be able to afford to worry about things like
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: climate change because you're not worried about the cost of.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Living in the here and now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: And the kicker I think is you're also more likely
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: to be as white as a polar bear in the snowstorm,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: which means that you are not first or second generation
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: migrant families yourself who might have very old fashioned or
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: traditional or conservative social values. So things like LGBTQUI. However
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: many letters there are now stuff you think is just ridiculous.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: You know, you're a Greek Orthodox, or you're a Muslim
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. So I think that is
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: why it sort of plays into those things. And we
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: saw with the Voice, and that's all you have to
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: do is look at the vost The whitest, and richest
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and most tertiary educated electorates were all the ones that
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: voted for your voice, whereas all the battlers, or the
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: migrants or the working classes.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Right all the public service Canberra was the only Judah
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: poshernis that's right that we voted, which fits almost.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: Personally a dead rap ven diagram.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, Camber's got the highest Greens vote, the highest
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Progressive vote and.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Everything absolutely to the second splash on the front of
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: the oars. The PM is really we're almost a week
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: in to his Quantus scandal and he's still now trying
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: to convince his party room. Oh it's nothing, nothing to it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: PM tell's ministers Anthony Albanezi, whos sought to reassure his
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: ministers the Quantus flights upgrade controversy will blow over, while
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: unable to say if anyone in his office requested an
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: upgrade on his behalf with the Labor MPs frustrated the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: government's message is being stifled just months out from an election,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister told a meeting of his full ministry
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: yesterday that he had done nothing wrong and was the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: victim of unfair media reporting. Now we barely know anything
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: because every time the PM tells is something, it just
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: raises a lot more questions. But one thing that he
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: has said is that I never called Alan Joyce to
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: ask for these freebes. Well tonight here on Sky News
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: we have an exclusive a recording of that call between
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister and Joyce.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Alan hel Alan, I don't eat any enough.
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: Allen Allen, Allen, Allen, Allen.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: You heard it here First lives, Lives and more lives
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: from answer and.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: We can do investigtive journalism too.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: The fact that Anthony Albanezi is meeting with his ministers
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and the first point of business is to reassure them,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: don't worry about the quantus.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: It'll blow blow over.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Shows that this is a major issue. The first thing
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: they're talking about is not cost of living anything else.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: It's this being a labor MP and a marginal seat.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Be like, oh, that's so reassuring, thanks, Prime Minister.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was going to blow over, he wouldn't
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: be talking about it. The reason he's talking about is
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: because he's worried it won't. Let's go to the front
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: page of the Townsville bulletin. Premier vows to act on mayor.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Townsville deserves so much better, christ Fully says, proud city
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: dragged through the mud thanks to the mayor. David christa
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Fully has given his clearest indication yet he's prepared to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: move on Townshell's embattled mayor, saying Troy Thompson has left
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the city with a tarnished reputation. Mister chris Fully says
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: he was really looking forward to receiving legal advice on
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: what steps his government can take next.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: The current mayor of Townsville is under investigation by the
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Crime and Corruption commission because he apparently made false statements
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: about his military record, his university outcomes, and his business
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: qualifications when he.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Was campaigning for the role of mayor.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: So the Labor government under Stephen Miles issued him with
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: a show cause. He responded to that, but then of
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: course the government went in the caretaker modes.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So now it's sitting on David cru Fooley's desk.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: David Krusa Fuley is a former deputy mayor of Townsville,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: so I would suggest he would be personally.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Motivated to get this thing sorted.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Actually, it's a little bit more complex than that. The
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: former premier, Stephen Miles, asked Troy Thompson, the mayor, to
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: show cause, and the mayor did in fact show cause,
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: but it turns out the cause was also fake. I
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: just love quickly pull up the front page again. I
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: just love the fact that this guy, the mayor, just
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: has a permanent bit of real estate on the Townsville
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: board in front page. That little inset in the bottom
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: right hand corner has been on the front page of
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: the towns pretty much every day. Like the substate think, yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: we'll just leave it on.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break fit stick around
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: because coming up Joe Biden biting babies.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Of course it's coming up in a moment. Welcome back.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Remember when Donald Trump said that migrants in Ohio were
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: eating the cats and eating the dogs, Joe Biden said,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: hold my beer.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: In fairness to Joe Biden, the baby was dressed as
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a chicken.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Perhaps he got confused.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And in addition to that, Biden's dog Major has bitten
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: people twenty four times in the White House, so it
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: runs in the field.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: There is no excuse for that, especially for the old
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: man we all know best as a child sniffer. Google
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: that if you haven't watched the creepiest compilation of the
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: man who is currently leader of the free world. But
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: get this and ABC American station had a little grab
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: during their coverage of the gwand PRIX on Sunday. Sorry
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the Mexican Guandprix, nobody freak out, you haven't missed out,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: saying that Kamala had one Pennsylvania just magically, somehow, ten
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: days in advance, fifty two percent of the votes apparently
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: she got, compared to forty seven percent for Republican challenger
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. There you can see it down the bottom
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: of your screen. Is this a prediction? Is the world
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: but a stage? What is going on here? Of course,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: the conspiracy theorists are now sounding cancel the election.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Now it's fine, but you see that up is embarrassing.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Check out the results. In nineteen forty eight, when incumbent
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: President Harry S. Truman pulled up a shock victory, the
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: New York Times decided they'd go to Chicago Daily Tribune,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I should say, decided they were. You know, it's all
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: done and dusted, No way can come back. Dewey defeats Trumans,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I say, Harry S. Truman thought that was pretty sweet.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: Indeed is Truman grinning of the rock law?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Well that's all we've got time for. But don't go anywhere.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Coming right up is the Ride Pendity Show. Good night,