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The Stylist Changing How Men Think About Toupees · The Keri Croft Show

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  Keri Croft: Badass.
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  Keri Croft: Lindsay Cole.
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  Keri Croft: Welcome to the Carrie Croft Show.
• 1:17
  Keri Croft: Thank you.
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  Keri Croft: I'm excited to be here.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Aw, thank you.
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  Keri Croft: Your hair is amazing too, those extensions.
• 1:22
  Keri Croft: Maybe.
• 1:23
  Keri Croft: I need to know.
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  Keri Croft: I'll maybe show you later.
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  Keri Croft: I want to go between wanting to punch you because you're so cute.
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  Keri Croft: I might have brought a blonde one for you downstairs in my car.
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  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Go get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Go get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to match your hair color.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
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  Keri Croft: Sylvia, can Sylvia go get it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is your car locked?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is it locked?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't lock my car.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't lock my car, the forerunner right in the front.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's in the passenger seat on a hanger.
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  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to come in too aggressive.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to I want to see.
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  Keri Croft: The ones that I do are self-applied.
• 1:50
  Keri Croft: Hold on.
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  Keri Croft: No, you wear it just for, I'll style your hair for your event.
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  Keri Croft: Wait, let's let's cut the shit.
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  Keri Croft: First of all, you can't because I have a hairstylist that will literally, yeah.
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  Keri Croft: But she cuts your hair.
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  Keri Croft: She cuts it, but she also does extend it.
• 2:03
  Keri Croft: She also does extend.
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  Keri Croft: Oh, you're gonna give me a halo.
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  Keri Croft: Yes.
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  Keri Croft: Wait, I can just put it in the way.
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  Keri Croft: When the show's over, I'll take it out.
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  Keri Croft: Also, Krista came in.
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  Keri Croft: My girl Krista from Panacea.
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  Keri Croft: Okay.
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  Keri Croft: She has that.
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  Keri Croft: Okay.
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  Keri Croft: And she came in with it, and I was like, boo.
• 2:15
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: She's like, no, I can just take it in and out.
• 2:17
  Keri Croft: Because I can't do it.
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  Keri Croft: Is that a halo?
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  Keri Croft: Yes.
• 2:19
  Keri Croft: Stop it.
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  Keri Croft: I'll take it out when we're done.
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  Keri Croft: We can do that.
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  Keri Croft: You need to take it out now so people can see.
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  Keri Croft: Are we filming right now?
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  Keri Croft: Yes.
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  Keri Croft: Can you take it out and put it back in?
• 2:27
  Keri Croft: Can you put it back in?
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  Keri Croft: Not without.
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  Keri Croft: Oh, okay.
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  Keri Croft: So why don't we do this?
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  Keri Croft: Why don't we I'll put yours in for social media though, we can show you putting it in and out.
• 2:35
  Keri Croft: Yes.
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  Keri Croft: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: But at the end, I'll take it out, but it looks good right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is fine.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I'll be naked.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: My hair's pretty long, but it's like, you know, it adds so much fullness and there's no damage.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's no maintenance.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's no, it's easy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I put it in for special occasions like this.
• 2:49
  Keri Croft: That's amazing.
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  Keri Croft: And Mia, by the way, do you like my loyalty to you?
• 2:54
  Keri Croft: I'm basically bitch slapping anyone that comes to somebody else the other day said something.
• 2:58
  Keri Croft: I go, no, I'm like, I'm I'm married to my hair gal.
• 3:02
  Keri Croft: Oh my gosh.
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  unknown: Wait, I need to.
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  unknown: Wait, hold on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Show the creating hair happiness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't show the halo because we we're changing brands.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Where's the hang up?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you don't even have to hold the hanger up.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can show the yeah.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: Here, can you hold that real quick?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, take that with the hanger.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then we're putting the toupee on top of your head too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_01: This will look cute though.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just not exactly your color.
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  Keri Croft: And so this is cute.
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  Keri Croft: So this is what you do is you put it like over.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I got into these during right during COVID.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're adjust they're uh adjustable.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you don't leave without knowing how to put it in.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's color matched, it's custom.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have like this a wedding, a baby shower, you pop it in, you get home, you rip it out.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's like taking off your bra at the end of the night.
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  SPEAKER_01: But how do you get over the hump of wearing fake hair?
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_01: I have girls that wear every single day.
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  Keri Croft: I know, but like it's like a lot, you don't it's real hair.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whose hair?
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  Keri Croft: This is another thing.
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  Keri Croft: It's like whose hair is this?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know it's actually a lot of India and Asian women that shave their head and donate for their churches.
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  Keri Croft: Okay, that sounds great, but like what if they're real, like what if one of them's a serial, you know, like what if there's a serial killer and then all of a sudden I think it's their karma.
• 4:14
  Keri Croft: We can say jet.
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  Keri Croft: Okay, I like the I like how you overcome objections.
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  Keri Croft: What a salesperson.
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  Keri Croft: What do you think, Sylvia?
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  Keri Croft: Could you take me seriously with it?
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  Keri Croft: We don't all have hair like her.
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  Keri Croft: No, I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like I look at you right now, so I could tie her to the length of your hair, maybe an inch or two longer, where if you wear it one day and not the next, it's not gonna be some drastic, oh my gosh, she has extensions in.
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  SPEAKER_01: It gives that Hollywood glam, camaradie, fullness.
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  unknown: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can wear it straight, you can curl it.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll come back to that.
• 4:42
  Keri Croft: We will come back to that.
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  Keri Croft: Okay, this is a choose your own adventure for you.
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  Keri Croft: Do you want to start in deep water or do you want to start shallow and flow?
• 4:49
  Keri Croft: Okay, let's go just right into it because of the way that I knew about this through one Anthony from you know a couple years ago.
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  Keri Croft: So you literally talk about like a stroke of wild things happening in one person's life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: So you have a robbery, a house fire, and your dad passes away.
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  Keri Croft: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: Can you talk through like the timeframe of that?
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  Keri Croft: And let's just start with the robbery.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the the robbery and the house fire are one thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was actually arson.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the maintenance guy of the apartment robbed and tried to cover up his tracks and started a fire.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I got home, it was May 15th, 2024, and my dad was just unexpectedly starting to get sick.
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  SPEAKER_01: I actually didn't tell him about the house fire for like four days because he couldn't do anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was in the hospital.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um, it was a cold case for a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I came to peace with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I lost a lot of money, and I really was focusing on taking care of my dad.
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  SPEAKER_01: So for a month, I was in the hospital.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was homeless, I had no belongings, and my friends gave me their workout clothes, and I wore yoga pants to the hospital every day.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: I had a book bag, and I think I kind of couch hopped.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have a son, so you know, his dad took care of him.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it my dad passed a month later.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, fast forward a year ago, I get a call from the detective like, what would I told you if we had a confession?
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  SPEAKER_01: And the maintenance guy confessed he had some other activity at Evans Farm.
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  SPEAKER_01: He stole another residence credit card.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he ends up confessing, and I got some money back.
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  SPEAKER_01: He had money in his safe still.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I got a money back, and then they wanted him to take a plea deal and he didn't.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so two weeks ago, we were just in trial all week.
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  SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, with withheld evidence, the jurors found him not guilty, even playing a confession tape.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it has been a wild ride.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think I put that in the past, and now it's been resurfaced.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, then I was a total, complete shock how that verdict came.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it's just like, okay, you know, I'm gonna give myself the weekend to like digest, process, and cry, and I'm gonna move on because, you know, I can't let this keep haunting me and bringing the past into the future.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what I learned from the whole thing is it's all shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was all it all burned.
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  SPEAKER_01: I lost everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of the day, you know, it's really just the people in your life and the people that supported me and mostly my clients.
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  SPEAKER_01: I lived with one of my clients in our basement for seven weeks with my son.
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  SPEAKER_01: It it was nuts.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a lot at once.
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  Keri Croft: Well, you know, yeah.
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  Keri Croft: And then you're thinking, like, the lesson, what you just said, like, okay, it's all shit.
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  Keri Croft: None of it matters except for the people in your life.
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  Keri Croft: And then the person in your life dies.
• 7:31
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: And you're like, well, wait a minute, fuck you.
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  Keri Croft: Like that would be some anger, like fuel for anger.
• 7:37
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: For a moment.
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  Keri Croft: It was hard to digest.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I kind of went off the rails a little bit.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: I experienced some mania.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: So you mentioned that.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a history of any sort of mental struggled with postpartum um anxiety and depression in 2011?
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: No, 2017, I'm sorry, when Leo was a couple months old and had some mental health with that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I had never experienced anxiety or depression in my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like 30 and I'm like, what is this?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I got help then, and not until then two years ago, I experienced a similar situation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Started with mania, ended in depression.
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  Keri Croft: But you, I mean, you said you went to the psych ward.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  Keri Croft: So are you watching the Clancy case?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's it's been a little triggering for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I struggled a lot with uh like suicidal thoughts.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: I never was to the point I would have done it, but I had a lot of bad negative anxiety and depression.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just like, I'm I'm watching it, but I'm also like trying to kind of detach because it it is really sad.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it's real.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and it's real.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: And psychosis is real.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was Googling postpartum psychosis.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: I stood out the window for three, I didn't sleep for three days.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when you don't sleep, it's just a vicious cycle.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: And you have this newborn baby, and you're just like, How did you end up in a mental institution?
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um really just kind of like we we Did you raise your hand and you were like, Uncle?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: That was more for the mania than the postpartum, actually.
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  Keri Croft: What was the mania like?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Can you describe the mania was really good until it wasn't?
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: In mania, like you have a lot of great ideas.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're I I have entrepreneurial like just drive in me, and I always get held back because of fear of anxiety.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what if I make this business and nobody wants to, you know, and when you're manic, every idea is a great idea, and money is no object, you know.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's fun and until you hurt other people, and you know, I unfortunately got divorced over it.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So that's how I ended up in the psych ward was actually mania because he was, you know, I don't want to get too much into that because it's we talk about exercise.
• 9:47
  Keri Croft: He's Leah's dad, and of course we can get into the weeds, yeah.
• 9:50
  Keri Croft: That's a whole other podcast.
• 9:51
  Keri Croft: No, for sure.
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  Keri Croft: I but about the mania though, you only went have had mania twice, twice in my life, yeah.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: And and it was uh like I don't like to say like I was manic, and you know, my friend was more gentle with me to say you're experiencing mania, and it's a little bit softer because when people say you are manic, that's very like attacking, and then you get defensive.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so it was like, I'm not manic.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just I I bought a car, like I I wanna try to like, I don't, I wanted to go with all these ideas I've always been dreaming of, and nothing was holding me back.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Which opening a salon was a big one, starting a t-shirt business, just you know, spending a lot of money at once and and not really caring about the consequences.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that doesn't go well with marriage.
• 10:35
  Keri Croft: Not so much.
• 10:36
  Keri Croft: For sure.
• 10:36
  Keri Croft: But then how do you balance that though with being like, you know, a lot of people could probably relate to that who are entrepreneurs where you're like, well, wait, like, am I like right?
• 10:44
  Keri Croft: You're staying up late, you have all these ideas, erasing thoughts.
• 10:47
  Keri Croft: It's like, how do you Well, you have to take risks.
• 10:50
  Keri Croft: You have to believe in yourself, you have to have big ideas.
• 10:52
  Keri Croft: But it's a very fine line.
• 10:54
  Keri Croft: You know, but you you know, you're not if you don't have the money or you're not, you're taking calculated risks over time and you're taking methodical steps.
• 11:00
  Keri Croft: You're not just like all of a sudden one day swinging for the fence going, I'm gonna take out a$250,000 loan and I'm gonna start this, you know, from zero, whatever.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I mean, I've always been a busybody and a mover and shaker.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like it wasn't out of the norm for me to be starting businesses and doing things and networking.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so, I mean, even my husband didn't realize I was manic.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't until like things kind of unraveled that it was just like, oh, like, wait, you're like manic right now.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: So how old's Leo?
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: He is gonna be nine.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: So starting third grade.
• 11:35
  Keri Croft: That's amazing.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: So he's my buddy because we have been through a lot.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: He, you know, getting divorced, his house burning.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: We moved probably four times in two years.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it was a lot.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's my buddy.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: How's co-parenting?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: We get a lot more.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Which is super good.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: So it's good.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's great.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's the best.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: I grew up with divorced parents.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: We went to Thanksgiving and Christmas together when we're adults, and that's what I want for Leah.
• 11:57
  Keri Croft: Yes, yeah, I didn't have that.
• 11:59
  Keri Croft: I had the divorced parents that like were the complete antithesis of that.
• 12:02
  Keri Croft: So I, you know, I do feel like when you can co-parent together, I think it's really great for your for everyone.
• 12:08
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 12:09
  Keri Croft: You know?
• 12:09
  Keri Croft: Yeah, it's a wonderful.
• 12:10
  Keri Croft: That's another podcast, too.
• 12:11
  Keri Croft: Because I have a lot of opinions on that.
• 12:14
  Keri Croft: So you are you do hair, you're a hair magician, queen, and you're like really niching into this to pay situation.
• 12:21
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 12:22
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 12:22
  Keri Croft: You know, and you were talking about like how there's like a stigma for there's not a stigma for women, but there's a stigma for men.
• 12:27
  Keri Croft: Yeah, but about time.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:29
  Keri Croft: I mean, you're gonna wear makeup extensions, I know, but and I'm gonna get shit for this because I it sounds like I'm anti-man.
• 12:36
  Keri Croft: I love my men, but I'm also saying at least there's something you're getting stigma for.
• 12:39
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 12:39
  Keri Croft: I'm just being an asshole.
• 12:41
  Keri Croft: But yeah, I agree.
• 12:42
  Keri Croft: Like hair loss is huge.
• 12:43
  Keri Croft: Like I was following this guy on TikTok.
• 12:45
  Keri Croft: I can't, I Andrew something.
• 12:47
  Keri Croft: He's a big TikToker, and he went like overseas to get his and like his hair, like the lengths that he went to to get this hair.
• 12:54
  Keri Croft: I mean, it's a big fucking deal.
• 12:55
  Keri Croft: I can't imagine being a man losing my hair and like not.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Transplants have really kind of been taking over since Turkey.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you can go to Turkey, you can fly there, you can you can get it done in a day, and it's it's a quarter of the price than than the states.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And so those have become popular, but those are not for everyone.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they really are for catching it early, maybe filling in your hairline, yeah, maybe getting a little bit of density, but they're not going to do what these guys are hoping it's gonna do.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: I've probably shaved off about four guys' transplants to put a toupee on.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: Then how does a toupee stay?
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_01: So there's two different systems there.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I got trained by the toupee queen.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: She became popular with the polyuris poly skin with glue that can last guys anywhere from two to four weeks on their head, no maintenance except for maybe a little corner touch up.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: The hairlines have come a long way.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: The systems itself, we're all gonna think when you hear the word toupee of Uncle Lewis in Christmas vacation, you know?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's why there is a stigma of even the word toupee.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mentioned there's a heated debate right now between all of these stylists who's doing this in the industry.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, let's start calling it a hair system.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Toupe has this bad connotation.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want to be associated with it and they want to try to call it a hair system, but it is what it is.
• 14:12
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• 15:46
  Keri Croft: Here's a question for the people.
• 15:47
  Keri Croft: I'm gonna poll.
• 15:48
  Keri Croft: If so.
• 15:52
  Keri Croft: If someone has a toupee, do they need to disclose that?
• 15:55
  Keri Croft: Yes, I think so.
• 15:56
  Keri Croft: Is that like dating?
• 15:57
  Keri Croft: Yes.
• 15:58
  Keri Croft: Like on front, like on your dating app.
• 16:00
  Keri Croft: It doesn't have to be your first date.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have to put like an asterisk?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: I wear a tube.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: I wear a hair system.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you, I had two, I had a guy tell me he dated a girl for two years and he hid it from her.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: And he was dressed out.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: And when they broke up, he went on his first date with a girl and he said, I want to tell you something.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: I have I have a hair piece on.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, Cool.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: She helps him glue it.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: She does everything now.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: And to be open, it's like, it is what it is, you know.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine having to hide that?
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you how many of my friends, though, sweep past bald guys on hinge.
• 16:31
  Keri Croft: See, here's the thing about men too, though.
• 16:33
  Keri Croft: Like a lot of them look good bald.
• 16:35
  Keri Croft: Yes.
• 16:35
  Keri Croft: Like, so I feel like men, like, okay, let's look at Joe Rogan.
• 16:38
  Keri Croft: He can like show up, possibly brush his teeth, and just sit in a chair like a little animal and it's all good.
• 16:45
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Keri Croft: Like, we can't do that.
• 16:46
  Keri Croft: Like, men can get away with being bald.
• 16:48
  Keri Croft: And I, in fact, I think there's a lot of handsome ruggedness that comes with.
• 16:52
  Keri Croft: Now, there's different types of bald.
• 16:53
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 16:54
  Keri Croft: So let me tell you one thing.
• 16:55
  Keri Croft: Bald, yes.
• 16:56
  Keri Croft: Balding, no.
• 16:59
  Keri Croft: When you're hanging on, when you're trying to hang on, though, like, you know, some of the So okay.
• 17:03
  Keri Croft: So give me this, give me the face.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: Memorial Tournament Week.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Hot as hell.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: We go to Tucci's for dinner and I look over, and I everyone's dressed in golf gear.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're after the course, we hit dinner.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I look over and I'm like, oh, this poor guy.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: He has about a hundred strands sweaty, combed over, but he was being respectful and he took off his hat and he's on a date for dinner.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just like, how, like, how could I approach him?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: I that's another thing.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: But the waitress came up to me and she said, Are you here by Lindsay Cole?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: I follow you on Instagram.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no one's ever done that.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, she goes, I bet you want to put a toupee on that guy over there, don't you?
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: No, she did not.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, she did.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my God.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, how yes, yes, this is what we've been talking about since we sat down.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, you know, I just the you need to own it and shave it.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: It be bald.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: But the 20 strands combed over, sweaty after it's like it was not a good look.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it was an eyesore for his date.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like, okay, I need your help, Carrie.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Can I go up to these guys without getting slapped in the face and just maybe have like a cool QR code, like miss your hair and drop it, you know?
• 18:11
  Keri Croft: What if they're interested?
• 18:12
  Keri Croft: I personally think you could do that, but you need to have a like a really fast getaway car.
• 18:16
  Keri Croft: One hundred or something.
• 18:18
  Keri Croft: Like, could you imagine?
• 18:19
  Keri Croft: Like, but imagine how many guys don't even know this is an option.
• 18:22
  Keri Croft: Well, so here's what I think, too, is things like this.
• 18:25
  Keri Croft: Because that's a very I mean, obviously, a man and his hair is second to only a man in his penis.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Keri Croft: Do you know what I mean?
• 18:34
  Keri Croft: Like a man in his hair.
• 18:35
  Keri Croft: But you can fix your hair.
• 18:36
  Keri Croft: You cannot.
• 18:37
  Keri Croft: Correct.
• 18:38
  Keri Croft: So I guess creating awareness this way, like, hey, I am your girl if you want a hair system.
• 18:45
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Keri Croft: I have the knowledge, the info coming in.
• 18:48
  Keri Croft: And it's gonna look amazing.
• 18:49
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 18:49
  Keri Croft: And like I think, you know, people, it's like that would be a pretty emotional and kind of like a Right.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: I would never have to embarrass anybody.
• 18:55
  Keri Croft: They'd have to ease into the process, right?
• 18:58
  Keri Croft: I think that would be something that like ultimately the guy, the dinner could get to, but it that would, I mean, can you imagine?
• 19:04
  Keri Croft: No, I would have never done it in front of her.
• 19:06
  Keri Croft: Correct.
• 19:06
  Keri Croft: It's like slide it at him, that would be like giving someone like a Weight Watchers or like a you can't so your approach has to, I think, be more less individualized.
• 19:17
  Keri Croft: Like, hey, I noticed your hair.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like put a brochure in the gym.
• 19:19
  Keri Croft: Yes.
• 19:20
  Keri Croft: In the men's locker rooms.
• 19:21
  Keri Croft: Do podcasts, make your presence known.
• 19:23
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Keri Croft: But like, no.
• 19:24
  Keri Croft: I because it's a sensitive subject.
• 19:27
  Keri Croft: I've never done it.
• 19:27
  Keri Croft: I've never done it.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: But they're undetectable and they're they're awesome.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is a curly guy.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: So they come a little wavy.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Most guys cut it short, and it just helps with styling to have a little bit of wave in it.
• 19:38
  Keri Croft: I was like, what?
• 19:39
  Keri Croft: I'm like, who is the George Washington?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: And that's that's okay.
• 19:42
  Keri Croft: That's what it is.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: You cut them.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: This is they're all custom fit.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I actually have a new client after this today.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Keri Croft: Are they like shy about it and like nervous?
• 19:50
  Keri Croft: Half and half awkward because you're so hot too.
• 19:52
  Keri Croft: Like, so it's like I'm putting myself in their shoes.
• 19:54
  Keri Croft: Like they're coming in here.
• 19:55
  Keri Croft: They don't want to take off their hat for a consult.
• 19:57
  Keri Croft: They're really sad.
• 19:58
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 19:58
  Keri Croft: And then here you are, and they're like, well, damn, I couldn't bang her.
• 20:01
  Keri Croft: Like, I'm she's out of my league.
• 20:03
  Keri Croft: She's give me a toupee.
• 20:04
  Keri Croft: Fuck my life.
• 20:05
  Keri Croft: Like, that's what they're thinking.
• 20:06
  Keri Croft: It's half and half.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Some people have researched this for three or four years.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're watching videos.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, okay, when they come to do it, they're going to do it.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's guys that are like, I just saw this.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, tell me about it.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Some guys use the hair fiber, the rogaine, the topicals are insane.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: The finastrodiol, the monoxidl.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like they come and they tell me all the things they've been doing for years.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, they want to tell me.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: They want to vent to me.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Get the tube.
• 20:34
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 20:35
  Keri Croft: I mean, like, oh no, this, I can imagine this being a very difficult time.
• 20:38
  Keri Croft: They walk out very difficult decision for glow up.
• 20:41
  Keri Croft: Oh, for sure.
• 20:42
  Keri Croft: I mean, I can imagine, right?
• 20:44
  Keri Croft: But it's like, I think it's just getting over that hurdle of like taking it on and off, and then having like, you probably have to have like a mannequin to keep the shape.
• 20:51
  Keri Croft: Where do you put that on?
• 20:52
  Keri Croft: You can't.
• 20:52
  Keri Croft: Well, no, no, no.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: The guys, the guys either do their own maintenance or they come to me monthly and I do their maintenance.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they are sleeping in these.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: They are working out in them.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 21:02
  Keri Croft: Okay.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: We do have the option for the lace and the tape for the sweatier guys that like maybe like don't want to wear it to bed or they're going for a run and they just want to put a hat on.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: We have another option, and that's kind of the more old school toupee styles with tape and that's a horse of a different color.
• 21:17
  Keri Croft: See, I'm picturing a guy trying to like, you know, do his thing in the bedroom, and then he's got like this like mannequin head and the toupee.
• 21:25
  Keri Croft: You know, I'm just vibes.
• 21:26
  Keri Croft: But women wear wigs.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, but a lot of the guys, I am encouraging them to do their own maintenance so they're they're comfortable with it.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: If there's a troubleshooting with the glue and they're out, they don't freak out.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: But then a lot of the gay guys, they want me to do it every month.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: They want me to style it, they want me to clean it and take care of it.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of gay clientele.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:47
  Keri Croft: So you're seeing a I mean, there's a lot of toupees rolling around.
• 21:50
  Keri Croft: And you would make it.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: In the West, I'm I'm really one of three people offering this service.
• 21:55
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Keri Croft: So if you lined up 10 guys, would I be able to point out the one that has a toupee?
• 21:59
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 22:00
  Keri Croft: I don't think so.
• 22:00
  Keri Croft: How much does this cost?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: So the initial fee up front is$9.50.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: You get a custom piece cut in.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: The hair itself is going to last anywhere from three to five months, depending on your lifestyle.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Are you active?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Are you taking care of it?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Are you brushing it?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: I would say the average they last about four months.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're going to come to me every four months for a new piece.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: We can change the style up, whatever they want to do, if they want to change the color.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of my salt and pepper guys were experimenting with adding 10% gray each appointment or whatnot.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: The uh buyback, I guess you'll say, is$650.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then the monthly appointments around$150 if they want to come in for a haircut and a re-glue.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: So if guys, I have guys traveling from different states.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of guys drive two hours.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be learning their own maintenance and just taking on the beast themselves.
• 22:46
  Keri Croft: Oh my God, it's crazy.
• 22:47
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Keri Croft: So$950,$150.
• 22:50
  Keri Croft: But the amount of money guys are spending on meds and side effects.
• 22:54
  Keri Croft: I was thinking for you.
• 22:55
  Keri Croft: I wasn't thinking for them.
• 22:56
  Keri Croft: I don't give a shit how much they have to do.
• 22:58
  Keri Croft: I'm looking for an assistant.
• 22:59
  Keri Croft: They would pay four times that.
• 23:00
  Keri Croft: I'm thinking about it.
• 23:03
  Keri Croft: They're so desperate to look and feel themselves again.
• 23:05
  Keri Croft: That's not the concern.
• 23:06
  Keri Croft: I was just like in my head, I always like to calculate, like, okay, what you got going on here?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to uh get rid of some of my women clients and focus on this because I love it.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: I love the way I make them feel, they the way they feel.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: And it's been really fun.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: After 21 years of doing great coverage and highlights, you get a little bored.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, okay, right, I'm ready for something new.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: And this has been so fun.
• 23:27
  Keri Croft: I love that.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: Where's your spot?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm in the works to expand, possibly Lewis Center.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm on Polaris right now.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Keri Croft: So that's in the works right now.
• 23:37
  Keri Croft: Okay, that's exciting for you.
• 23:39
  Keri Croft: So if there's an assistant out there who would like to help Lindsay with this love, this hair system empire that she's got going on.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Did you say you did T.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: See, I love that you're calling it hair system.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: You're more drawn to that word.
• 23:50
  Keri Croft: Well, because that's what you're trying to do.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm indifferent.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm 50-50.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's it is what it is.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to lie and say it's a hair system when it's a toupee.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's not a lie.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a different word.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a yeah.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a different wrap.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna try to modernize the word.
• 24:03
  Keri Croft: I mean, this is a hair system and it's a toupee.
• 24:05
  Keri Croft: Yeah, exactly.
• 24:06
  Keri Croft: Call it what you want.
• 24:07
  Keri Croft: And it looks like George Washington right now.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: But again, if it's on a head once when it's cut and style it, it is so custom.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: You the hairline is undetectable.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: Is this real hair?
• 24:17
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 24:17
  Keri Croft: Is this a guy's hair?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't exactly every company is a little different, so I can't exactly say who the donor is.
• 24:24
  Keri Croft: Did you okay?
• 24:25
  Keri Croft: What were the what was the t-shirt business that you did?
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: This was just like a little side hustle.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: My dad had a labeling company.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: They printed t-shirts.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: I started a little Columbus threads, just had a patch of Ohio.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I see.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: I see.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: So it was I've always just had a drive to like have my own business, be my own boss.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I love working for myself.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: I left my salon on Friday an hour late.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: I walked in on Monday, hair everywhere, drawers open.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: It was a hot mess, but I can do that.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in charge.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: So no, I agree with that.
• 24:57
  Keri Croft: What else?
• 24:58
  Keri Croft: Anything else about the hair system that you would No?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think I was just like looking for your help of like, how do I make this more accessible?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Not even that, but like, how do we normalize it?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think the Toupe Queen has done a great job on TikTok and her clients are willing and open to sit and be filmed.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: My guys are half and half.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of guys don't want to be on camera, and I totally respect that.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: And when they leave, they feel bad because they're like, I've been watching all these guys.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: I know this helps you when you put my picture.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: No worries, I'll put an emoji over your face.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, but I think just looking to like, yeah, how do we normalize this and kind of like cut the stigma about guys doing something for themselves?
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Why can girls get extensions, but guys can't glue a hair system on?
• 25:42
  Keri Croft: I think you're doing it though.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: You are.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:46
  Keri Croft: Because I mean, you're out there talking about it.
• 25:49
  Keri Croft: You are normalizing it.
• 25:50
  Keri Croft: And I and not every guy is gonna want to be filmed, but you don't need every guy to be filmed.
• 25:54
  Keri Croft: You only need a small percentage.
• 25:55
  Keri Croft: Right.
• 25:56
  Keri Croft: You know, and there's nothing wrong with whether you want to be filmed or not.
• 25:59
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Keri Croft: I wouldn't want to be filmed.
• 26:00
  Keri Croft: You know, I don't want to be filmed on any of that stuff.
• 26:02
  Keri Croft: But like if you're offering something, if you're offering a discount for it, yeah, then somebody might be like, Well, shit, yeah, I'll do that.
• 26:07
  Keri Croft: Right.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think what would be great is if you could find a couple guys that are like really lean into it and be like, I actually am working with this guy named Greg who has a podcast in Cleveland, and he's been talking to about it with his followers, and he he's gonna host me on the show in two weeks.
• 26:20
  Keri Croft: That right there is the ticket.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, I'm not hiding this, I'm not gonna show up tomorrow with a new hairline, and you guys are like, What the heck did you do?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, that's the So he's been really great, and we're gonna film the whole thing.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna give him a lace piece and a tape poly piece, the glue versus the tape, and we'll let him honest reviews to these guys.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: If you're active, if you're lifting and sweating, if you're a firefighter, this is what I would choose.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Pros and cons to both pieces.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: So he has been great, and I think we're gonna have some good feedback with him just being so forth with it and he's owning it.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you need.
• 26:54
  Keri Croft: Yeah, you know, somebody like that, the juice is really worth a squeeze with him.
• 26:59
  Keri Croft: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Keri Croft: Because like he's got his own following, he's open about it.
• 27:02
  Keri Croft: It's gonna make other people feel yeah.
• 27:03
  Keri Croft: So I think you just find a couple of those.
• 27:05
  Keri Croft: Yeah, you know, 100%.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I'm giving you two pieces.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's on me.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because I want him to kind of like honest reviews.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: He's uncomfortable in front of the camera, you know.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I think what I'm what this baby is kind of, you know, developing into is like, I need a brochure, I need a more formal website.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these guys see my Instagram, but it's like they have a lot of questions.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I think for me, I've always been the creator.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can do make you look beautiful, the back end stuff.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: I need help.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like I am, you know, I have ADHD, a million tasks and ideas, but having it come together and being organized is like, yeah.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have a website?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Something like her would be great.
• 27:45
  Keri Croft: Get your hands off, Sylvia.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'll fight you for her.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, do you have a website?
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: I have like a basic website through my booking app, but it's women, it's not featuring this.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: I've been waiting for the perfect model, the perfect content shoe, and it's gonna come together next month.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then hopefully the salon, and I think it'll be it's all kind of snowballing.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Good.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Keri Croft: So you're doing it, girl.
• 28:06
  Keri Croft: Thank you.
• 28:07
  Keri Croft: So if you're out there and you are like noodling the idea of getting a hair system and you aren't afraid to like be seen, Lindsay's looking for some models.
• 28:16
  Keri Croft: She's looking for some hair system models.
• 28:18
  Keri Croft: So you can DM her at Hair by Lindsay Cole.
• 28:22
  Keri Croft: Hair by Lindsay Cole.
• 28:23
  Keri Croft: What else?
• 28:24
  Keri Croft: Anything?
• 28:24
  Keri Croft: Gosh, not that I can think of, but you're coming to the build event.
• 28:27
  Keri Croft: Let's do it.
• 28:28
  Keri Croft: October 1st.
• 28:28
  Keri Croft: Yeah, I think that's it.
• 28:29
  Keri Croft: I mean, I we keep it short and sweet so people are engaged and they listen and they I love everyone on your page.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: I love your whole podcast.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's awesome having a lot of women entrepreneurs and that's awesome.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm happy to be a part and I'm happy I'm here.
• 28:43
  Keri Croft: I'm happy you're here too.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for sharing my craft.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: And hopefully we can help some guys that are really insecure and are looking for an answer that are hiding under their hats every day.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love it.
• 28:54
  Keri Croft: Well, on that note, thanks, Lindsay.
• 28:56
  Keri Croft: Yeah, that was great.
• 28:57
  Keri Croft: That was a great way to end.
• 28:58
  Keri Croft: If you're still out there following your girl, follow me on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcast.
• 29:02
  Keri Croft: Until next time, check out Lindsay, consider a hair system, and keep moving, baby.