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The Late Debate | 16 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait we the late base.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James MacPerson with Caleb Bond and Jemmy ton Yini.
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  Speaker 2: How are you both?
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  Speaker 1: Calebi? You know in top order? Given the company here tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought that would put you in absolutely
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  Speaker 3: great spirits.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean I I'm in top order. Where would
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  Speaker 4: I rather be at ten o'clock on a Tuesday night
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  Speaker 4: but right here talking to you people at home?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? Jemma, how is your day? Would you get?
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  Speaker 5: I had a frantic day.
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  Speaker 6: I am doing well for a person who, unlike you
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  Speaker 6: two fine gentlemen, is not really a night house.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm here unfueled by coffee, very pleased to be here,
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  Speaker 5: and sparkling ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of the week, your sleep patterns will
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  Speaker 2: be completely.
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  Speaker 6: Upended, up ended all sorts of drive myself to bed
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  Speaker 6: like a fifty year old toddler.
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  Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 4: A Royal Asket starts tonight too, So you're going to
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  Speaker 4: be up watching natil three am like me, aren't you?
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  Speaker 5: I will most definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: You're not joking about that, are you? You will sit
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  Speaker 2: up and watch the.
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  Speaker 4: Watch Royal Asket right too. We've got four or five
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  Speaker 4: nights of it to come.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine anything worse now.
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  Speaker 6: I love the ponies, as you know, I'm a subject
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  Speaker 6: expert when it comes to the four legged, beautiful creatures,
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  Speaker 6: but I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 4: We've got Australian horses. Docklands is running in the coin
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  Speaker 4: ann the first race, and the King Charles we've got overpassed.
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  Speaker 4: So there's some Aussie representation tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Well worth staying up for all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, let's get into the program. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister questions Pauling Hanson's ability to relate to Asians,
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  Speaker 3: presumably because of something she.
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  Speaker 2: Said thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Iconic craft retailer Lincraft announces they'll close all their physical
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  Speaker 3: stores in Australia and New Zealand. Is this the new
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  Speaker 3: normal now as people increasingly shop online? And why is
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  Speaker 3: it that every time a private school kid gets into
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  Speaker 3: trouble the media love to emphasize that it's a private
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  Speaker 3: school kid. Is it really relevant when reporting the news.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to all of that shortly, but first, there's
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  Speaker 3: little doubt the public's aversion to mass immigration has driven
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  Speaker 3: the rise of one nation. People believe that nearly one
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  Speaker 3: point four million long term net migrant arrivals since Albanyze
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  Speaker 3: was elected in twenty twenty two is far too high
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard to argue with that. Labour have imported
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  Speaker 3: the equivalent of Adelaide's population and then some in just
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  Speaker 3: four years, and the problem, of course is we haven't
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  Speaker 3: built another Adelaide to house them all. Labour said that
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  Speaker 3: cap international student numbers they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Foreign students at New.
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  Speaker 3: South Wales universities increased by seven point five percent last year,
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  Speaker 3: and it was a similar story in other states. The
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  Speaker 3: number of people on temporary visas has gone from one
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  Speaker 3: point nine million where Elbow was elected to two point
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  Speaker 3: nine million currently. And it's not just the increasing number
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  Speaker 3: of foreigners, it's where they're coming from. Our largest source
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  Speaker 3: of migrants used to be people born in the UK,
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  Speaker 3: now it's people born in India. Australia's Indian population has
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  Speaker 3: gone from four hundred and forty nine thousand in twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifteen to just under a million today, a doubling in
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  Speaker 3: ten years. And here's where I think there's an interesting
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  Speaker 3: discussion to be had because just mentioning some of those
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  Speaker 3: statistics risks having you labeled a race sister, are bigger
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  Speaker 3: as enophobe or whatever the slur is this week? So
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  Speaker 3: is it racist to be bothered by the inevitable changes
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  Speaker 3: mass migration brings or are those concerns are normal part
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  Speaker 3: of human nature that deserve to be heard and perhaps
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  Speaker 3: acted on.
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  Speaker 2: Jimma, what do you think?
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  Speaker 6: I think we have to have a sensible conversation about immigration.
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  Speaker 6: As some of you would know, my dad came to
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  Speaker 6: Australia on a boat after the Second World War along
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  Speaker 6: with hundreds of thousands of other both economic migrants, displaced
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  Speaker 6: people's refugees, after the world was ravaged by war. It
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  Speaker 6: was a different time and it was a different expectation
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  Speaker 6: of migrants that came to Australia. And I think we're
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  Speaker 6: just out of balance and we can't have a balanced
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  Speaker 6: conversation unless we can say things like is there cultural alignment?
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  Speaker 6: I think that's the biggest one that people are afraid
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  Speaker 6: of having a conversation about. I know I used to
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  Speaker 6: be a little bit nervous about that. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, well, people think I'm being unfair or unkind.
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  Speaker 6: But I remember being a kid going to a very
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  Speaker 6: I went to a State School in Perth, but it
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  Speaker 6: was a very waspy part of Perth. I was the
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  Speaker 6: only kid in my class with a funny name and
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  Speaker 6: had funny food in my lunch box. And I know
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  Speaker 6: what it's like to be called, you know, your dirty.
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  Speaker 5: Wog, your silly wog.
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  Speaker 6: You know, kids could be cruel, but kids learn it
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  Speaker 6: from somewhere else, right, And I remember my late father
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  Speaker 6: saying to me things like, well, Gemma, it's US and
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  Speaker 6: the Greeks, and later on it was the Vietnamese and
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  Speaker 6: the Chinese. And you know, I like to think we
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  Speaker 6: grow as a country. But let's be honest. My people
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  Speaker 6: imported the mafia. Let's be honest. We imported things that
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  Speaker 6: the Australian government dealt with. They were incompatible with Australian values.
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  Speaker 6: There are cultures that have incompatible.
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  Speaker 5: Values with Australian values.
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  Speaker 6: That's the piece I think we haven't been allowed to
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  Speaker 6: have free conversations about apart from the things like for example,
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  Speaker 6: when my grandfather came out after the war, it wasn't
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  Speaker 6: like Charlie Toanini, you can live wherever you want. No, no, Charlie,
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  Speaker 6: there's a need in the regions. You're going to go
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  Speaker 6: do two years in a little town called Quinnap which
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  Speaker 6: is three hours south of Perth, and back then there
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  Speaker 6: was not a lot of infrastructure. We need to have
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  Speaker 6: conversations about structure and process. Don't just say you can
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  Speaker 6: come to Australia. You can go to the heart of
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  Speaker 6: Melbourne and go to the heart of Sydney. Put pressure
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  Speaker 6: on housing, infrastructure, all of that sort of thing. I
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  Speaker 6: just don't think we're having an honest or a full
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  Speaker 6: or a fully fledged or a mature conversation about the
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  Speaker 6: issues that are concerning Australians.
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  Speaker 4: The reason we're not having, or have not historically had
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  Speaker 4: those conversations is because the minute you start doing so,
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  Speaker 4: the left likes to frame it as a racial issue.
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  Speaker 4: The minute you say, well, actually I think people coming
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  Speaker 4: from certain parts of the world may not be compatible
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  Speaker 4: with our country, well that's racist. You can't possibly say that.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just true. And the problem you have
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  Speaker 4: as well, even if you might have people who are
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  Speaker 4: largely compatible, when the face of your nation racially changes significantly,
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  Speaker 4: you start to create special interest groups.
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  Speaker 1: Now you mentioned India.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, there is, as we know now a major
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  Speaker 4: Indian population in this country. Most of them are great
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  Speaker 4: people contributing to this country. But once you start to
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  Speaker 4: talk about the Indian population in Australia, and I know
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  Speaker 4: these discussions are being had on the right of politics,
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  Speaker 4: particularly in the Liberal Party. They're concerned about how they
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  Speaker 4: frame issues because they're worried that talking about immigration will
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  Speaker 4: lose them votes with migrant communities in the suburbs, and
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  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party is very well aware that it needs
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  Speaker 4: to pick up votes in the suburbs.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if that's the point you've hit where you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if we're talking about migration, we're worried that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: large groups of people, because they have a mirgrant background,
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  Speaker 4: are going to start labeling as racist. You've lost the
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  Speaker 4: fight before you've even begun, and you've done it to
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  Speaker 4: yourself because you've led all these people into the country
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  Speaker 4: and then.
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  Speaker 1: You're effectively letting them.
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  Speaker 4: Dictate migration policy because you are scared of being labeled racist. Well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not racist. We have to face up to these things.
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  Speaker 4: And it is no wonder that people get antsy when
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  Speaker 4: they see the face of their nation and changing so quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Part of it is culture, part of it is race.
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  Speaker 1: But when people don't.
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  Speaker 4: Recognize the country that they grew up in and they
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  Speaker 4: see it changing really fast without them being asked. I
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  Speaker 4: think they have the right to say something's not right here.
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  Speaker 3: What did you think of the media commentary around the
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  Speaker 3: socceru's brilliant victory at the World Cup? And then there
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  Speaker 3: was an article in the City Morning Herald Julian Hill
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  Speaker 3: went on media and talked about the fact that, well,
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  Speaker 3: if Pauline Hanson had her way, none of the soccous
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  Speaker 3: would ever have been allowed into Australia and we would
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  Speaker 3: never have won a game at.
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  Speaker 2: The World Cup.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the infantile level of debate that the
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  Speaker 3: left want to impose upon this whole issue, which is
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  Speaker 3: not only just a silly argument. I mean, if Pauline
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  Speaker 3: Hanson had her way, mon Manus wouldn't have been in
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  Speaker 3: the country either. So you know, you can argue those
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  Speaker 3: sort of things, but it infantilizes the debate. It does
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  Speaker 3: makes it very difficult when they bring up stupid things
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 5: It does that.
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  Speaker 6: Moreover, I tell you what, it does show that labor
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  Speaker 6: is running scared, because what a ridiculous thing.
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  Speaker 5: To say that if Pauline had Hanson had.
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  Speaker 6: Her way that the soccer us wouldn't be there and
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  Speaker 6: the soccer half the players wouldn't be there.
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  Speaker 5: That is a.
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  Speaker 6: Ridiculous statement and it shows to me just how worried
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  Speaker 6: the Labor Party is because every time they talk about her,
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  Speaker 6: they talk about her and these extreme sort of phrases
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  Speaker 6: that are designed to oh.
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  Speaker 5: My god, don't you know vote.
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  Speaker 6: They may as well run a recruitment campaign for one nation.
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  Speaker 6: The way they're responding to this threat. It's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I agree absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, it goes to the point of the criticism
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  Speaker 3: with Anthony ALBERNIZI I think you're going to.
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  Speaker 5: Talk about oh yeah, that we're still talking about them.
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  Speaker 3: So it just prompted me to think, I mean, now
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  Speaker 3: he's saying that she won't be able to deal with ages.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's nonsense, right, and it is a really
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  Speaker 6: nice segue. Actually, so the Prime Minister. I think this
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  Speaker 6: talks about the Prime This talks to how nervous the
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  Speaker 6: Prime Minister is on the one hand, and he's presenting,
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  Speaker 6: you know that nothing to see here, move along. He's
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  Speaker 6: almost the fact that he's brought this up actually shows
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  Speaker 6: I think his mindset.
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  Speaker 5: So the story is this thea.
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  Speaker 6: The Prime Minister wants us to believe that something that
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  Speaker 6: Pauline Hanson said in nineteen ninety six, so a good
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  Speaker 6: thirty years ago, and we all remember Pauline Hanson. Let's
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  Speaker 6: call it Pauline Hanson version one. We've got Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 6: two point oh. Now we've got Pauline Hanson version one
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  Speaker 6: back in the day where she you know, she was
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  Speaker 6: very well known for things that she said that were
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  Speaker 6: I think quite unacceptable at our Asians overrunning the country,
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  Speaker 6: that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 5: The Prime Minister has come out and.
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  Speaker 6: Basically said that Pauline Hanson's not worthy of being leadership
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  Speaker 6: of this country because of things she said.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty he's got let's have a look at what he
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  Speaker 5: had to say.
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  Speaker 7: Iron Most Australians want our immigration policy policy radically reviewed
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  Speaker 7: and that of multiculturalism abolished. I believe we are in
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  Speaker 7: danger of being swamped by Asians. They have their own
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  Speaker 7: culture and religion, form ghettos and do not assimilate. Of
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  Speaker 7: course I will be called racist.
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  Speaker 8: It's easy to identify grievance. The issue is providing solutions.
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  Speaker 8: Think about the global fuel crisis that it just occurred,
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  Speaker 8: and think about whether everyone in public life would be
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  Speaker 8: in a position to go to our Asian friends in Singapore,
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  Speaker 8: in Brunei, in Malaysia, in China, in South Korea and
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  Speaker 8: Japan and say, we have a relationship that is important
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  Speaker 8: of mutual interest in our region.
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  Speaker 2: We need to make.
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  Speaker 8: Sure that we continue to have fuel supply.
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  Speaker 6: There's so much to unpack their first of all, classic deflection.
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  Speaker 6: Second of all, the reason we had to go running
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  Speaker 6: cap in hand to our Asian neighbors and friends for
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  Speaker 6: fuel is because this government allowed our fuel reserves to
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  Speaker 6: dwindle to just thirty days supply, and we don't produce
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  Speaker 6: enough of our own anymore. Let's just remember Singapore doesn't
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  Speaker 6: actually produce any of its own field. We had to
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  Speaker 6: go running to them cap in hand just to keep
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  Speaker 6: the lights on here.
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  Speaker 5: And I find it really if at.
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  Speaker 6: Fest of all, I found what Pauline Hansen said thirty
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  Speaker 6: years ago offensive. I think most of Australians did and
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  Speaker 6: still do. That party doesn't exist anymore. It is a
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  Speaker 6: different party, it is a different person. Let's not judge
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  Speaker 6: somebody by what they.
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  Speaker 5: Said thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 6: This is alban Easy, so desperate and so scared, and
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  Speaker 6: if we're gonna let's.
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  Speaker 5: Play game, guys. If we're going to judge someone by.
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  Speaker 6: What they said thirty years ago, here's what Anthony Albanesi
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  Speaker 6: said thirty years ago about the public sector.
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  Speaker 5: For example, the ideologically.
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  Speaker 6: Driven view is that the public sector is a huge
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  Speaker 6: monolith which exhausts economic and human resources, and that must
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  Speaker 6: be challenged. A recent survey by the International Monetary Fund
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  Speaker 6: found that the Australian public sector, as a percentage of GDB,
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  Speaker 6: it's the third smallest.
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  Speaker 5: In the world. How things have changed, How things have changed.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it just goes to show I think how
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  Speaker 6: frightened the Labor Party is, how they don't know how
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  Speaker 6: to deal with a legitimate threat.
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  Speaker 3: I just love the hypocrisy, Caleb, that Anthony Albanezi doesn't
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  Speaker 3: seem to think what he said about Donald Trump in
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen makes any difference to our relationship in the US.
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  Speaker 3: But what Pauline Hanson said about Asians thirty years ago
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  Speaker 3: is going to make it impossible for her to run
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  Speaker 3: the country and deal with our neighbors.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a silly argument.
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  Speaker 4: And paul Enhanson herself has said she was wrong about that,
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  Speaker 4: and that they've been you know, largely productive members of
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  Speaker 4: Australian society.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really a moose point.
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  Speaker 4: But this idea, basically what the Prime Minister is suggesting
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  Speaker 4: is that you know, we should have infinity migration lest
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  Speaker 4: we offend our Asian neighbors. Well, I'm sorry, we do
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  Speaker 4: have sovereign borders and the right to dictate who comes
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  Speaker 4: to this country in the circumstances in which they come.
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  Speaker 4: To borrow a frase from John Howard, and even the
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  Speaker 4: idea that you would be scared about what your standing
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  Speaker 4: is amongst other countries because you dare to say, ang
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  Speaker 4: on a minute, we need to put the brakes on
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  Speaker 4: a bit here because we can't cope with the number
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  Speaker 4: of margrants coming into the country. Again, you've lost the
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  Speaker 4: argument before you've even started it, because you're starting from
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  Speaker 4: the position of we need migration in order to appease people,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's people who are already in this country because
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  Speaker 4: you've invited them in and now you need their vote,
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  Speaker 4: or people who are currently outside of the country but
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  Speaker 4: you want something out of them, be it fuel or
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  Speaker 4: something else. Seemingly according to the government, to we just
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  Speaker 4: got to bring more.
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  Speaker 1: And more and more and more and more and more
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  Speaker 1: and more and.
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  Speaker 4: More people in order to appease all these people. Well,
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  Speaker 4: do they also realize that the more margrants you have
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  Speaker 4: coming into the country, the more fuel and all these
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  Speaker 4: other resources you require, which we then go off cap
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  Speaker 4: in hand to ask other people for.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a load of garbage.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, the other thing I thought was interesting from that
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  Speaker 3: clip we played at the Albanizias. We all knew who
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  Speaker 3: he was talking about, but he did not name Pauline
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  Speaker 3: hands Lord did he name one nation. I'm just wondering,
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  Speaker 3: is that a deliberate strategy you think he will? He
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  Speaker 3: will criticize her, but indirectly so as not to raise
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  Speaker 3: her profile too high, because they would be well aware
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: every time you criticize Pauline Hansen, her popularity increases. So
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  Speaker 3: they won't stop criticizing, but they'll try and do it
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  Speaker 3: a little more subtly without actually using her name.
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  Speaker 6: She speak, so, I think so, And I think again,
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  Speaker 6: that speaks to the lack of like the flying blind,
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  Speaker 6: they've never had a challenge like this. They don't know
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  Speaker 6: how to deal with it.
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  Speaker 5: I am, for one, enjoying the spectacle from the front row.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and also how weak does it make us look
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  Speaker 4: as a country when we're worried about what other countries
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  Speaker 4: think of our migration policy, Because tell me, do you
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  Speaker 4: think there's any nation in Asia or any other country
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  Speaker 4: around the world that's sitting around thinking, gee, I wonder
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  Speaker 4: if we sort of change our migration policy a bit,
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  Speaker 4: whether we'll have a relationship with Australia. No one, not one,
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  Speaker 4: no one, And yet we are here, not we but
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  Speaker 4: the prime he's saying, well, you know, if we had
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: tartar policies on migration, we have to fret about our
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  Speaker 4: relationship with other countries. Why are other countries so keen
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  Speaker 4: to push their people out of their country and in
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  Speaker 4: two hours it's almost like they want us to be
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  Speaker 4: the dumping ground or so.
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  Speaker 3: I think you also he underestimates how effective Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 3: could be, because I think you find nations are pretty
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  Speaker 3: pragmatic when dealing with other leaders, whether they personally like
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  Speaker 3: them or not. It's about national interest. And I think
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  Speaker 3: while he underestimates Pauline Hanson, I think he greatly overinflates
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  Speaker 3: his own relationships in Asia. I mean, he's got a
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: great relationship with Jujin Ping, who famously called him handsome boy.
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  Speaker 3: So how good is the relationship really, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it matters that much. Nations do what's best for nations
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  Speaker 3: and that will be true whether Pauline Hanson, Angus Taylor
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: or at the alb and easiest prime minis.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: And also the Sky News Yugo Pulse poll which you
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: can go and find online now paul was running through
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: it in the last hour. You know, fifty percent of
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: people believe that one nation is ready to govern and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: that's more than people are ready to vote for one
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: nation twenty eight percent or twenty nine percent, whatever it
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: was in that poll. Forgive me for not having the
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: exact number in front of me, but fifty percent say
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: that one nation is ready to govern another thirty two percent.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I think, so they would be ready to govern by
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: the next election, and so Australians aren't worried.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: That's a really interesting nuance to that as well, because
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: they're ready to govern, I think indicates that people have
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: actually recognized that they obviously they weren't in the past.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: We've seen an iteration of this party which is completely different.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I've got to quickly say, I'm not sure if they're
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: ready to govern, but do you think people look at
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: the government we have and saying how big the bar's
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: not that high?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Or bad could it be? Speaking of how bad could
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it be?
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: It seems like every second day we hear about a
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: business falling over in this country. We know insolvencies are
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: at some of the highest they have ever been any particular,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: the retail sector is suffering trouble. We see in the
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: news today another major Australian retail business, well known business
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: lind Craft, has decided that it will shut all its
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: physical stores.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: They say they're going online only.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: They've had to make what they call a difficult and
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: deeply emotional decision to close their physical stores across Australia
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: and New Zealand after eighty years of serving people. Of
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: course with craft products, most people at some point have
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: probably been into a lind Craft shop.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Or if you don't do a lot of craft, but y.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Nana does the knitting, she's probably need to use something
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: that has come from lind Craft, or with products that
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: have come from lind Craft. I am concerned that we
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: have a dwindling retail sector in this country now.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And it says two things.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: One, it says that it's harder and harder to do
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: business in this country.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Now that does not only apply to retail, that is
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: across the board.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: But I also worry that the more we lose these
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: physical places to go and shop, we lose places of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: physical interaction. We lose touch points in our communities, places
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: where we bump into our neighbors and people we know, etc.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: And that eventually we become more and more insular. The
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: rise of online shopping. I know it's convenient, but the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: more shops we lose physically, the more places we lose
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to actually interact with the product personally, but to interact.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: With the people in the shop. We've seen in supermarkets
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: they've tried to take away the checkouts. Now you've got to.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Use self service, and you lose that level of human interaction.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I worry that if you follow this to its logical conclusion,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: which will take many, many decades, but we will get
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to a point where we just don't have shops anymore.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that's really sad.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Why is it that we keep seeing these retailers either
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: go into administration. Retailers that have been successful in this
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: country for decades are going into administration or shutting their
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: shops because it's just not economic anymore.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I got to say.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Lincraft closing their physical stores I think is heartbreaking because
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: now we won't be able to stand outside with all
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: the other husbands bored out of our brains wondering how
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: long we're going to be here, so.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It will be at spotlight instead.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a terrible thing.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Look, I don't think you can stop this, Caleb. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: think before COVID, people were flirting with online shopping. During COVID,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: people learned how convenient it is, how easy it is.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: They became conditioned to it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: The numbers of online shoppers have dropped slightly after COVID,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: but if you look at eighteen to twenty four year olds,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent of them now purchase regularly online. Thirty
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: percent of twenty five to thirty four year olds purchase
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: regularly online. The numbers dip after that, but if you
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: look at eighteen to thirty five year olds, as that
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: cohort ages and then the next generation come up behind them,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: online shopping is only going to become more popular. So
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I think the future is instead of have shops having shops,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you have showrooms. Maybe you have service st and return centers,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: but most of what you buy, apart from fresh fruit
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: and vegetable, will be online. Whether that's a good thing
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: or a bad thing, that's up for debate. But I
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: don't think there can be a debate about whether or
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: not that's the future.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's inevitable.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: I'm going to give you a debate, gentlemen. I am
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: I am the last well maybe not the last past.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: I love to shop in a shop, first of all,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: but I am in my day job because surprise surprises
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: is not my day job.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: We have clients who are in retail that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: Are expanding their physical shopprunt true story, and I obviously
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: won't name them, but they are expanding their bricks and
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: mortar footprint because there is a demand. I look at
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Lindcraft and whilst I'm you know, sorry, that's a very
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: difficult decision. And I can only imagine. I'm a business
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: owner myself, I can only imagine how difficult that was
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: for them. But it's craft, and it's haberdasherie. And isn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: that a great word, by the way, haberdasherie. I remember
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: when I was a kid, there was a there was
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: a I don't think I've ever used that word in
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: mod Tonight Tonight, say night, James.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Haberdasherie, We've made his There was a.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Shop at my local shopping center in Perth.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: It was a mini version of Limb Craft and it
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: was a pumping little store in the late seventies and
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: early eighties, and then society moved on.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I mean I wouldn't buy.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I would get if I needed stuff for I'm not
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: a crafty person. It may shock you to understand that
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: I don't do craft and I don't sew, but that
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: stuff is easy to get online, and it's quick to
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: get online.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I don't see even.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: In my own village where I live here in Sydney,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: the neighborhood I live in, shop fronts are growing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: People are moving in. The florist is moving in, the
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: bookstore is moving in.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: And I don't believe that we are heading towards this inevitable,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: you know, collapse of shop fronts. I think it depends
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: on the sector. I think it depends on the cohort
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: that is your traditional commercial base. Like you said, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: the niches of the world. I mean, knitting is having
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: a resurgence, but I don't see it being you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: it's not like it's not rebel Sports, not a client
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: for the record, and it's not that kind of thing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: There are some things like we were talking about this
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: the other night. I don't shop online for my groceries
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: at all.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I want to go in. I want to eyeball my
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: fruit and veggies, and I want to buy.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: It as you should. I mean, look, it's nice the
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: chops are opening up near you. But on the whole,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: the retail sector is in decline. We've had, according to
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the abs A, three consecutive financial years of decline in
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the retail sector. Last financial year twenty twenty four to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: twenty five, I think got the graph there there were
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: two sectors went back One was agriculture, forestry and fishing,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the other one was retail. It declined by zero point
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: four percent. In the twenty three twenty four financial year,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: it was the same story too, sectors went backwards agriculture, forestry, fishing,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and retail. Retail went back point two percent. In twenty
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: twenty two to twenty three, there were three went backwards
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: was agriculture, forestry and fishing, accommodation and food services, and retail.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Again retail went back point two percent. In that time
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: we had population growth of six point three percent, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: we've had I can't calculate it year on year because
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not that good with percentages, but you know, four percent, sorry,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: point four percent, point two percent, point two percent. So
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: let's say the retail sector has gone back a year
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: on year, if you work it out, about one percent, right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: but the population has increased. I mean, surely the retail
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: sector should be concurrently increasing to serve the people who
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: are moving into the country.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's not happening. Doors are shutting.
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: What you're talking about is a sector decline that's not
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: necessarily all of that sector decline represented by shutting physical shops.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: That's people just not shopping in general.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: That's not saying that that let's call it one percent
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: for argument's sake, that's not saying that whole one percent
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: is represented wholly and solely by physical shopfront shopping, shopping shopping.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: So it's a different thing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, I take your point.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Amalgamation that my point is an aalgamation of online and
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: shop frat, but it's also.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: A reflection of the general economic.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: But every other sector has grown.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Right, But this argument is about, you know, is it
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: the end of the show upfront as well.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that that is the case.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, you were talking about showrooms only, and you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: apart from that, I don't think that's the logical conclusion
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: here at all.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: How do you reverse the momentum towards purchasing things online,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the convenience, it's cheaper, it saves so much time, Isn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: it inevitable?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Unless if that keeps growing? I don't see any other.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Cop And let's look at Mecca. I mean you said
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: you stood Outsideling Craft. You ever stood outside Mecca? Have
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: you ever stood outside of Mecca?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Mecca's fantastic, fantastic.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That's a story for another day, like dabbling, dabbling Mecca.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Mecca's biggest shop front in Australia, I think is in Melbourne,
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: which is super counterintuitive, right because it's Melbourne economically depressed,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: you know, broken state, that sort of thing. But their
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: biggest flagship bricks and water stories in Melbourne and it
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: is pumping. I don't have the numbers in front of me,
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: but they have been a record breaking store that people
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: physically go to, and they have a strong online store
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: as well.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Really briefly out of curiosity, have they tailored their store
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: to sort of make the most of the experience, so
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you just don't walk in them checking up. They have
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: they made the shopping experience something that they're promoting.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I don't know necessarily whether it's promotion of a product,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: but the mecha experience is an experience.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: But that answers your question.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: So what's the decline you go to a store for
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: an experience? Like I bought something online this week? Why
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: because I already had one of it, I knew my size,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: it was on sale, That's what I bought.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: But if I want to try something new or I
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: want an experience, I'm going to go in. What's a
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: blocky experience.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this store still exists, but I
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: love a Bunnings.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: I love going to Bunnings.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: There's a store called Culture Kings and they have a
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: DJ playing, and you can get a haircut there, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you could play basketball in the store. And my kids
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: loved going there to buy shirts. I think more because
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: they just loved going into the store even more than
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the product itself. Maybe that's the way retailers will have
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to sort of market themselves to get you off your
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: computer and out on the road. Atling traffic and going
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: into the store fun physically.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Bunnings is I won't go into detail, but Saturday night
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: somebody had to make an emergency trip to Bunnings from
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: my house at six pm because we couldn't get we
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: want what we wanted online delivered.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Yep, there you go, There you go.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You want from Bunnings.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Let us talk about that one during the ad. Let's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: talk about the football.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Australia of course had a famous first round win in
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: the World Cup. But I'll tell you who wasn't winning,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and that's Australian referee Sean Evans. He's over at the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: World Cup as a video assistant referee. Let me show
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you what went to air and then we'll zoom in
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: on what made the news. Here's Australian ref Seawan Evans.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: He's the one standing up in this footage in the
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: var Hub operations there being led by hamza Al.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: For each.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the vision that went to air.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: But let me show you a still photograph of what
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: everybody focused on. Sean Evans was holding his hand in
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: a particular way that to some represents a white supremacist symbol,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and that photograph went viral, with people arguing about whether
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: or not he was secretly signaling white supremacists around the world.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: It got so ridiculous that poor On Short Evans had
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: to release a statement via a FIFA. In his statement,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: he said, the only explanation I can offer is that
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: the movement was an involuntary, subconscious.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Twitch, he said.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: He went on to explain that I would like to
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: clarify I didn't intentionally make a hand gesture or symbol
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: to communicate a message, affiliation, game, or belief of any kind.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Is this not a ridiculous micro analysis where he has
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to put out a statement to explain the way he
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: was holding his hand while doing his job was not
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: some signal to racists. And then FIFA had to put
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: out a statement saying we confirm no disciplinary action will
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: be taken. Instead of being asked to clarify what some
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: people were confused about, he was presumed to be sending
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: a racist signal, and then he had to defend himself.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: It's just stupid, isn't it. I mean, apparently try and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: follow me here. The Okay symbol is allegedly a white
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: supremacist thing because it means it's okay to be white one.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't do it. I don't know it. You'll
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have you next.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Oh yes, I'm so white supremacist.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: But allegedly I think that's what it is, because it
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: means it's okay to be white, apparently, and so if
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: you do the okay symbol, it means you're a white Like,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: how are we even talking about?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: How is it real?
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: A guy has his hand on his leg and his
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: fingers just happened to be touching, and they go.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Why must be a light supremacist at the World Cup.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, give it a rest, people, but I mean, unfortunately,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: you do have to think of this stuff. The other day,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I'm doing a podcast now with news dot com doty
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: you unseerious.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Look it up here.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It's very good.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: By the way, y see, there's a recommendation. You haven't
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: gone and had a look at it wherever you get
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: your podcast?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Unseious. But we were talking about something the other.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Day and I said, you know, there's been a meteoric
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: rise or whatever, right, and so I have demonstrated this
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: with my hand and in so doing my hand has risen.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to do the full gesture.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: You did that Elon musk Well, correct.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And this was pointed out to me afterwards.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I said, I don't think we'll put that in there
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: before no, because people might take that screen grab and
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: suggest that it was some kind of Nazi salute. Now
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: obviously that is ridiculous, but this is what you've got
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: to deal with now. But this is what people will do.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: But by cutting that from.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Your pod casto is this a podcast?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: If you get this video of it online, yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Isn't that just going to perpetuate the fact that that
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: now these symbols cannot be done for you?
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: And this is but this is the problem though, is
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: because you know, I understand people don't want to deal
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: with the fallout of it because it's just too difficult
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: in whatever. But like, this is the crap that we're
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: now having to think about because just normal everyday things
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: are somehow taken out of context and turning done and
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: some racist kind of takes.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: So, Jim, I'm annoyed that FIFA put out a statement
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: saying no disciplinary action will be taken. They should have
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: put out a statement saying this is absolutely ridiculous and
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: people need to stop being so sad that.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: The problem is the management of it as much and
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: almost the sort of tacit endorsement of it by as
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: you say, putting.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Out a statement saying, oh, look, we're not going to They.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: May as well have said we're not going to discipline
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: this referee because there was nothing to discipline him for. Everybody,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Log off, go outside, ground, your feet on the ground
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: for a little bit, have a little toddle around.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: But to your point, Caleb, with your podcast, which.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: I will get on board, well done, which I will
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: get on board.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: See you're an influencer. Now you should have just done it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: You should have just done it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: And if anyone had arked up the simple responses, don't
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: be so bloody stupid. Honestly, it's ridiculous that it is ridiculous,
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And I think there are circumstances in which one needs
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: to exercise caution. That would not be one of them,
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: and it is that it is that unintended validation when
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: you jump at shadows.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: I've done it myself.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: It's really easy when you have some kind of public
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: you know, perceptual public persona and a sort of a
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: responsibility to conduct.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Yourself in a certain way.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: But it's so easy to jump in shadows, and in
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: so doing, giving these peanuts exactly.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: The fuel for their weird conspiracy theories that they are
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: looking for.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Ye indeed, well, Jim.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Speaking of this is not a weird conspiracy. That was
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: a terrible segway.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Can I instead talk about I had to ask the
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: boys earlier.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: We're talking about good I can't pronounce it? Can you
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: pronounce it for me? This wouldn't go.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Oh, that's actually not that hard. But we were talking
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: about GYG. So I don't eat junk food because my
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: body is a temple.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: They would, they would.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Just mine I desecrated.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I don't have to be convinced of that, actually, Caleb.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: But the fact is that I know that you're a
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: connoisseur of red wine.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: So it was a very gentle desecration, very stylish deration,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: treating it very well, steering back from the abyss if
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: I may. Next time you're on the road, people craving
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: a burrito, well, guess what if you've got Apple Play
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: in your car, you might be able to get one.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: You can order one with your car and not with
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: your phone.
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: This is because Apple Play have teamed up with GYG.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: For this this new capacity to be able to you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: tap your tap your finger on your screen if you've
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: got the Apple car play, and just order your burrito.
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: I personally have never wanted a burrito that badly that
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: I'd need to order by my car. I wonder if
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: this is just good marketing rather than anyone actually using it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: It's the first Australian fast food chain to be able
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: to do this.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, we use our Spotify. We were talking about
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: that before.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Do we really do Is it just clever marketing or
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: do we really need burritos as we're going down their one?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Well, let's have a look at how this thing works, right,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: So essentially this is some kind of legal loophole so
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: that you can use a touch screen to order fast
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: food while you're driving. I mean, people drive badly enough
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: as it is without having the introduction of being able
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: to order food on their car radio as they're driving along.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: If you did that on your phone and the copper
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: went past, you'd have I don't know, four or five
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars fine or whatever it is. But because you
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: doing it on the car screen, well that's all fine
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: with me. I think this is ridiculous how is this
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: possibly legal?
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: You've got the.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Cars and they bing and they bong, and they go
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: off one hundred miles an hour, and this thing you're
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: doing wrong, and that thing you're doing wrong, and if
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: you look in the wrong direction for a millisecond and go.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know, you could be distracted. But oh no,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: it's all fine. We'll let people order burritos as they're
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: driving along. This is just stupid.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: It's a strange anomally, isn't it. You can't touch your phone,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: but you can touch the screen. I suppose the difference
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: is the screen is part of the vehicle itself. It's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: also probably much harder the police people touching the screen
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: than touching their actual physical phone, which is we have.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: To charge people with death by ordering a burrito.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: The screen's pretty I think the screen is pretty distracting,
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: I have to say, I think. I mean, I got
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: caught very early on when I was still living in
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Way touching my phone four hundred and fifty dollar five.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Never did again, literally phone in the handbag in the backseat.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: Best way to manage it. But I do feel like
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: sometimes the screen equally is problematic.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: That they argue that because of where the screen is placed,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it's less of a movement of your eyes. You're still
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: taking your eyes off the road, but less than if
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: you're looking down like this at your phone. They also
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: argue that because the screen is larger, the icons are larger,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: so you can be quicker in touching the screen rather
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: than trying to find something on your phone, so you do
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: not need a burrito.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Very quickly before we get to a break. You wouldn't
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: believe what the New South Wales Teachers Federation is trying
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: to get down the throats of your children. They're putting
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: out these gender and sexuality teaching materials. This is for
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: kids as young as in year seven, so like eleven
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: and twelve years old, and they're promoting these things with
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: the activities they can do, which includes stuff such as
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Past the Pronouns, which is a role play where you
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: talk about kids who have different pronouns, and also a
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: thing called alphabit soup now alphabet soup. According to the
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: material they're putting around, all of this activity is to
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: familiarize students with the diverse expressions and terminology related to
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: gender and sexuality so that they can better understand and
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: accept it within themselves and their communities. This activity encourages
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: students to think about the different way these terms worked.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: It also invites them to consider that identity is often
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: non linear and not easily categorized by which it means
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the kids are being told that gender fluidity is quite normal.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: And it also says that most commonly labeled as male
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: or female, this is biological sex. But this doesn't capture
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: everyone and there is a range of variations in sex.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: This is what the New South Wales Teachers Federation wants
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to be taught to middle school students.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And we wonder why homeschooling is gaining in popularity.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break. When we come back,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: look at the papers.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: One Nation have found a new role for Barnaby Joyce
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: as they attempt to take on the government.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that after this.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Well, Pauline Hanson is dominating the news, and she dominates
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the front page of Tomorrow's Australian Gemma.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: She certainly does James.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: The strategy of the rebellion is the header there and
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: this story a good one.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: From Greg Brown and Sarah Eisen.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: One Nation star recruit Barnaby Joyce is set to take
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: on Jim Chalmers as the Populist Party's treasury spokesman. I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: here for that, by the way, and a bit too
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: sharpen his economic agenda labeled vague and expensive as Anthony
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: Albanizi goes on a cost of living blitz to starve
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: Pauline Hanson's political ascendancy amid a historic poll surge putting
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: her party ahead of Labor. Senator Hanson will on Wednesday
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: make her inaugirl addressed to the National Press Club and
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: present an alternative vision for the country, after saying she
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: has the ability to lead Australia as Prime minister. Independent
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: economists are ramping up critiques of One Nation's agenda, declaring
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: its policies will not help the fight against inflation.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Towards the wealthy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: They are also demanding Senator Hanson officially cost her policies.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, costing policies is something neither of the parties
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: have ever done really and completely or accurately.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: You know, in an election campaign.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: It's always a little bit robbery figures and there's always conjecture.
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: But the truth of the matter is, guys that if
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: one nation wants to continue this ascendancy, this trajectory they're
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: going to have to come up with detail, and pretty
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: tight detail.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And that's the weakness they've got, right, especially on costings.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Paul En Hanson famously.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: A week or so again a week or so ago,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: said that she'd been able to get costings because they
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: hadn't officially been recognized as a party. Now it turns
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: out that may not have been the actual case. But nevertheless,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: their weaknesses. Can they pay for these costings? Can they
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: explain how they're going to be their policies rather, how
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: they're going to explain those policies and how they'll be costed.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: So I mean, at the moment it's Barnaby Joyce or
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: it's no one. He was on the Expenditure Review Committee
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: for the Morrison government. He's an accountant, he's been Deputy
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Prime minister, he's the guy to do it.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: So good move, I say.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Can I be so bold as to suggest that people
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: don't particularly care whether the costings stack up at the moment,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: because going back to the point you made earlier, they're
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: so peeved at the way things are now they'll give
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: anything a shot. You know, when, as I say in
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: the Sky News, you pulse poll it says that fifty
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: percent of people think.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: One nation is ready to govern.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: That's them saying, you know what, even if one nation
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: is a bit rough and ready compared to a labor
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: or a liberal party which has been around for decades
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: and decades and has big machines and whatever behind it,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: people know that one nation is a small party as
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: it stands, and that it doesn't have the same resources,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: and that it's starting from a position that's way back
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: compared to a labor or a liberal part and they're fine
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: with that because they don't like what the labor and
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: liberal parties or the coalition have been doing. So they're
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: willing to accept the foibles some one nation to see
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: how it goes.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't think it really matters. I don't think
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it hurts them at all.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: How do you think, sorry, go on, how do you
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: think Barnaby Joyce stacks up against Jim Charmers one.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: Hundred percent out of the straight out of the jump ahead?
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: But Barnaby Joyce, with you lik him or not, is
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: one of the best retail politicians in a very very
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: long time by the length of the strait. To use
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: a nice racing analogy for you there, Caleb Jim Chalmers
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: is unlikable.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: He's unwarm. He's unwarm, He's unlikable, he's cold, he is
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Know if you guys saw the interview sixty minutes interview
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: on the weekend, it was dreadful and as my good
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: friend Parnell mcginna says, you know it's been a really
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: bad hit out when you have to release your own
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: cut of the interview which he's been putting out on
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: social media. Jim Charmers against Barnaby Joyce, Barnaby Joyce any
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: day of the week and thrice on Sundays, and I
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: just wanted to say, Thrice, be careful.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Will we get your news from you?
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: And of course Paul and Hansen speaking at the National
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Press Club tomorrow will no doubt be talking about that
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Rate escape as economy to hit skids, reads
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the front page of the Adelaide Advertiser. Australians will suffer
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: through an economic slow down and rising unemployment over the
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: next few months as the Reserve Bank moves to contain
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: high inflation. The Central Bank held the cash rates steady
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: at four point three five percent on Tuesday, its highest
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: level in years, and stated it was deliberately pushing for
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: a slow down to reduce price pressures and reduce inflation
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: from four point two percent. The Reserve Bank also noted
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: that they have not ruled out a a rate rise
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: when they meet again next time, so rates on hold,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: but with a warning that may not remain the case.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: And interestingly, economists are quite divided on whether or not
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: there will be another rate rise. Westpac and I think
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: it was, and HSBC last week said they don't think
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: there would be. The NAB said they think there would be.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I speak to Shane Oliver on Friday from AMP.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: He thinks there will be. I mean, you know, things
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: are bad enough as it is. We know inflation is
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: a problem, but government spending is a problem.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: But we have to copy it through these rap rises.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: On the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow, interesting story
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: was with the Desi Freeman case. Exclusive Police investigating cop
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: burderer target property linked to ex player and parent of
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Premiership Duo AFL star in Desi raid. Police investigating the
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: movements of cop killer Desi Freeman have raided a property
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: linked to the former Carlton star Bruce Red, father of
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Aohl AFL. I should say Premiership duo Ben and Sam. Now,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: of course that infers no guilt upon mister Reid, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: an interesting development in this case because, of course, what
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: the police are now trying to ascertain is how it
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: was possible that Desi Freeman was able to survive for
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: so long and move undetected through the community up until
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: the point where the police originally or sorry eventually found him.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: That's what they are trying to work out.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: And similarly they're leaving no stone unturned in trying to
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: find out how he managed to do it.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: And carlt im pliers are normally associated with coach killers,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: not cop kills, so little AFL joke.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: Therefore you see spice with spicy front page of the
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: mercury water going down the drain.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: This is a really curious story.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: Taswater continues to lose about a fifth of the state's
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: drinking water every year, and it's being urged to improve
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: dam safety and limit environmental risks associated with its sewage
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: treatment plants. No one wants to hear drinking water and
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: sewage treatment in the same paragraph, but here we are.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: In its twenty twenty four to twenty five report on
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: the State of the Tasmanian water and sewage industry. The
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Tasmanian Economic Regulator found that while water loss performance improved
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: compared with the previous year, twenty one point five four
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: percent of drinking water was still unaccounted for.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: How do you lose drinking water? Anyone? Anyone so weird?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I got no idea.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Twenty one percent of the orange juice in our house
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: is unaccounted. I don't know where the water in Tasmania goes.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Is it evaporating?
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: There's not that much some in Tasmania.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: No, exactly. And it's the it's the let's call it
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: the axis.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Of evil between the sewerage facility and the drinking water
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: that it makes me deeply uncomfortable about this story.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: All right, quickly before we go to a break.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: The Townshire Bulletin has It's a story it's far too
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: typical to be honest. In North Queensland, ten arrested over
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: baby taken in car. Police have arrested ten people, including
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: adults and children. I believe it was two adults eight
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: children on a stolen vehicle investigation that involved a baby
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: being taken from a property. Authorities confirmed a black Iszusu
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: was parked in a garbet street driveway with a mother nearby.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: When the alleged defenders entered the vehicle drove off with
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the baby still in the car seat. The offenders have
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: placed the baby in the car seat on the footpath
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: before fleeing again. A police spokesman said, so, thank god
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: the child was okay. But these people who have been arrested,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: if found guilty, should absolutely receive This is worse than
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to stealing a car. If you steal a car and
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: there is a child in the back seat, I'm not
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: sure if there's a special category of crime that that
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: falls under.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: If there's not, there certainly should be. When you go
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to a break.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll show you why sports stars
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: probably shouldn't be interviewed immediately after winning major championships. Well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: many of you would be familiar that the UK Caleb
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: has followed Australia's lead when it comes to the social
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: media band.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: No, indeed, I mean so Keyo stammer as though he
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: wasn't in enough trouble already thought I know what I'll do.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I'll be more like Anthony Alban Easy.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: That'll really helped me out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Introducing this social media band. Of course, for teenagers if
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: you're under sixteen, you're in a spot of bother. So
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: the BBC decided to go and ask some school children
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: what they were going to do now that they would
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: not have access to their social media and one girl
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: said this.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Earlier we looked at screen time. What was your screen
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: time over the weekend?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Nine hours?
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: Nine hours? So suddenly you're going to have a lot
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: more time to fill and what will you do?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Stare at a wall.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: This is a good is that the quick wit of
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: that girl to stare at a wall?
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's hilarious, isn't it? But you know that
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: is that is such brittish humor in the face of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: you know what.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: For a lot of kids, they'd probably be a somewhat
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: distressing moment to be told they're having their Facebook and
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Instagram and taken away stare at a wall.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad that's not my daughter. How would you
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: discipline a kid like that?
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: You'd like to be.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Angry and pressed all at the same time.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: It's just it's so dry, It's just it's so good.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: She delivered that line beautiful.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, I know if she doesn't have a future in
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: stand up comedy, you know, I think she's found here.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I think she's found it. Bulling now, I hope she
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: does something with it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: She is.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: Well, this is my worst nightmare. I have to say
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: this story I'm about to share, but spoiler alert, there
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: is a happy ending. An elderly citizen of black Butt,
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: which I've just discovered is in Queensland, was caught in
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: a fire.
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: The house was burning.
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Down and a beautiful pet dog was caught inside. Thanks
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: to the actions of a wonderful police officer.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: We do have a happy ending. Let's take a quick look.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, four fifty and the fire is come and life inside.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Now, I have to say, having experienced let's call it
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: the the less caring end of a Chihuahua that belongs
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: to my cousin's daughter. That's the only way to deal
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: with the chihuahua. That dog was obviously very frightened. Candace
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: was the Chiuhaha's name. Gentlemen, I think that's a very
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: apt name. Constable Tranmore is.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: The hero of that particular story.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: And as a former dog owner, those who were playing
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: along at home you would remember.
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: The people's dog, rip Buster.
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: The idea of something might happen to he would have
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: been absolutely devastating, so God bless the boys and girls
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: in blue.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Well, the Glad was lucky because going into a fire,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: he could have ended up with a black butt.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Glad the Dog's ok.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: One hundred, Caleb, That is such a dad joke.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: The New York Knicks won their first NBA championship in
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: fifty three years.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: They celebrated pretty hard. In fact, they celebrated so hard
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  Speaker 2: it was a big mistake to go on Good Morning
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  Speaker 2: America the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about the difference coach Brown Mead and how he
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  Speaker 1: brought you all together.
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  Speaker 3: He's been a great Clearly it had been a big
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  Speaker 3: night the night before, and the response said everything you
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  Speaker 3: need to know about their celebrations.
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  Speaker 4: Go ah, well, do you know, give it a rest,
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  Speaker 4: and then they have the right to celebrate after a
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  Speaker 4: big win like that, don't they.
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  Speaker 1: It's cruel to make him rock up the next morning.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, that's all we've got time for tonight.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. Stick around. Coming up is the
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  Speaker 3: reader Pennehy show.
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  Speaker 2: Good Night