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Free Balochistan with Exile PM Naela Quadri Baloch - ExIran · Gunther Fehlinger Podcast

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a very honourable and very special guest.
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This evening. I'm very honoured to have the
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Prime Minister of Balochistan here, the government in exile.
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Professor, you are here with us and you asked me also to read
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your CV which is very distinguished as well as of
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course, but I will cover some of the points.
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Born in in 1965 in Balochistan and the daughter of an important
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personality in itself, a well known lawyer and activist for
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Balochistan national rights. And then you had a very
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distinguished career as a student leader and you have been
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living in exile. There were several attempts on
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your life where with in Afghanistan during your time in
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exile and you are one of the leading personalities obviously
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of the fight for freedom of Balochistan.
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You want me, I can read in detail to.
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You you prefer if you want to. Otherwise, it's it's not
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necessary, just we can go you. Started your first campaign
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already in the 80s basically, and you are basically their
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voice and the leading personality of Balochistan
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freedom. And we are very honored to
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welcome you, Mrs. Prime Minister.
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I will refer to you as Prime Minister because you represented
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the government in exile officially since 2022.
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You were elected as the Prime Minister of the government in
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exile and the international audience, of course, we want to
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know now, when all this revolution is happening in Iran,
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what will be the future of Iran, What are the constituent nations
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of Iran, what is Baluchistan and where do you see the future of
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your nation developing? And I'm very honoured that you
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take time. And please can you first
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introduce yourself as well a bit and also then outline what's
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your plans for the future? Thanks a lot.
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You're very welcome. Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much. I'm really obliged and grateful.
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Actually, what I am is my identity is Baluch, and this is
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the identity I'm proud of and I take as my basic my first
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identity and I believe in multiple identities, my feminine
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energies, the creativity. I'm proud of introducing myself
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as a as a woman who believes in equality and who rejects all
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such rules and and kind of religious attempts, taking
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religion as a kind of a tool of oppression to show that women
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are lesser human. I don't accept it.
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And my generations of women, we never accepted it.
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Well, which women? We don't accept it.
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And Balochistan is not Iran and Baluchistan is not Pakistan.
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Baluchistan was a free country when there was no Iran and there
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was no Pakistan. We have a history of 20,000
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years. No other nation in the world can
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claim that they were on this land for last 25,000 years.
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The city of Merger was found by a French archaeologist and he
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worked there with his wife and his team for 30 years.
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And it's his discovery. It's not my claim that layer by
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layer a civilisation was there. And still if you see the
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patterns on my dress, the the patterns here we live with are
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patterns from Melgar. So we are people of the soil and
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we are occupied by our neighbors divided by colonial conspiracies
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and our brothers and sisters by blood and bones.
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We are from same ancestors are Kurdish people.
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So Baluch is basically from 5 court tribes, a nation
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developed. So our mother nation is Kurdish
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nation. This the Kurdistan and
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Baluchistan both are facing same kind of oppression, division and
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taking over by our neighbors. So we don't believe in the
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dialogues people say and the rhetorics people show that
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religion, all our Muslim countries who are doing
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injustice with us, It's not the matter of religion, it's matter
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of justice. If there is no justice, religion
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is just a tool of oppression, a tool to occupy and to control
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and show their power. The situation in Iran today is
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just like it was during Holocaust.
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In Pakistan, the Baluchistan, especially Kurdistan, Ahwaz.
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We are the people who are under direct target.
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They don't see us as humans. They they have decided us as
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others. They have decided us that we are
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lesser people, we are lesser humans.
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They ignore our history, they lie about their history that
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never existed when we were there.
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And they are doing the extreme level of oppression.
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They're using our women, our daughters as raping our
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daughters as tool of their to keeping their occupation, to
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make us afraid, to make us scare 15 years old girl, even 17 years
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old girl, even seven days old baby girl they have abducted.
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They are abducting our women every day.
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A 15 year old girl Maho in Jabaar was raped by police chief
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of Chabahar. The Iranian they claim about
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religion, where is their religion, the religion they talk
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about and they say we are enemies of their God.
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I want to see their God, where it Where is that God that allows
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them to rape kids? And there is no accountability.
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And when people were on their roads for Masa Amini, our
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daughter, her actual name is Jina.
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We are not allowed to give our kids our names.
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We are not allowed. We have to give them Persian
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names. So Masa is not her original
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name. Her original name is Jina.
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Her Kurdish name is Jina. My mother's name was Jina.
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When we were on their roads protesting, just protesting,
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saying that killing a girl, that she was not wearing hijab,
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raping a girl 15 years ago, girl for Maho and Masa Baluch, people
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were protesting peacefully. What they did, they killed 400
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people in one day. Around 200 were killed on the
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spot. Then they were taken to
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hospital. They were refused for
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treatments. They got they they died
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continuously by bleeding. Kurdish teachers came there to
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donate their blood. They were not allowed.
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And when people died in the dark nights, they were given the
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bodies were given to their families and asked not to
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announce their their debts, just take them in the dark and bury
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them today. What's going on?
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A political leader. A Wazi political leader in a
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Shaban jail in Iran. Akhwazi.
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I don't Mrs. Prime Minister Votes Akhwazi.
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A Wazi are also a nation in Iran and they are occupied by the
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state of Iran. They are not Iranis.
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That's the Arabs in the South of Iran.
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Yes, yes. So they are our direct
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neighbors. They are the, the way they are
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dealing with Ahwazis is extreme of, of injustice and cruelty.
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If there is a protest in Tehran with their own Persian people,
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they use tear gas. But if there is a protest in
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Ahwaz or Kurdistan or Baluchistan, they just shoot us
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in 55 prisons all over Iran, a hunger strike is going on.
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World should know that the prisoners have stitched their
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mouths. Can you imagine?
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This hunger strike is against the the killing of prisoners in
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2025 only they have hand to death. 2200 prisoners.
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Majority are Court Baluch in ours.
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So they're. Shooting women.
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Especially targeting the minorities of the Kurds, of the
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Baluch and of the Arabs in the Gulf.
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Yeah, that's especially the target of the Mullah regime.
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Yeah, actually it's not the matter of Mullah regime.
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When there was Shah, the situation was not good for us.
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The in in the Shah regime, actually they occupied our
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territories. Mullahs are continuing the Shahs
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regime. There is no change of regime is
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there? People have changed the state.
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The cruel nature and the injustices of the nature of the
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state is there. Our problem is not changing of
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regime. Whichever regime comes, they
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will do the same. When the Masa revolution was
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started, I remember in front of Vancouver Art Gallery, we
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gathered for for the protest. So it was all all kind of people
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who were supporting that. They were codes, ballots and
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Persians and others and Turkmen, Lur, Armenians, everybody was
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there. The first target was my flag.
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They came to us and they said which flag is this?
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I said this is Baluchistan, is it a new flag?
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I said yeah, kind of 700 years new.
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So they said no, only the Shah flag, the King's flag is Iranian
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flag. All of the flags, no, especially
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you guys are not allowed. So if my flag is not allowed, we
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are not here. We know we are no part of you.
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We'll go somewhere else and we can protest for our daughter.
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Then Kurdish protesters, they made 40% of the whole protest.
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They came out. They said if ballots are not
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allowed, then we are. We are also leaving with
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ballots. We go with ballots.
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Then they accepted us on the pressure of Kurdish because they
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were more in number. So I thought that they are
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socialists and Shah people together, disliking Baluch flag,
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disliking Kurdish flag. They are out of power today.
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Still they don't accept us. If they are in part, they are no
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different than than mullahs. All the institutions of Iran
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today's working, crushing people, their jails, their
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secret agencies, their armies, their forces, they are not new,
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newly created. They are created by Shah.
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How? How Shah can be a different
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person? And if you see, if you look at
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the the the map of Iran, a minority in centre, a Persian
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minority in centre has occupied their neighbors territories and
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created a country. Everybody else, then Persians
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are not happy. So if there is a change, we are
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not showering our blood for a regime change.
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We clearly state that Baluchistan was a free country
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and we want Baluchistan as a free country.
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It's not a new country. People are afraid of new
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countries. Kosovo is there.
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One of Kosovo's journalist, He's our friend sometimes when we
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organize conferences in the United Nations, Geneva, he joins
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US1 day. He said we are just 200,000
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people. We have a country because it was
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in the interest of the powers. But you guys, yeah.
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And you guys are 60 million people, 60 you are stateless.
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So it's not that we are not resisting.
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It's not that we are not fighting.
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It's not that we are not using the the the tools to to advocate
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at every level. We had conferences in Paris, we
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had conferences in Germany, we had conferences in Brussels, we
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had conferences in Geneva, in United States.
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So wherever there is, we we feel that, yeah, people are ready to
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listen to us. We have gone there, we have
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spoke to them. They know what's going on in
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Balochistan. They know how they are killing
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us, bombing us, demolishing our villages, but they're silent.
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Why? The basic manipulation of Iran
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is in a joint venture with Pakistan.
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Pakistan and Iran are twins. People think that OK, one is bad
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if we dismantle this one, the other can work.
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No, Whenever there is a problem in Iran, all their leadership is
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supported by Pakistan. Now there was attack on Iran.
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Their leadership was hiding in Pakistan through Baluchistan,
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they connect through Baluchistan, they both support
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each other and there was a war against Pakistan the last few
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months. Iran was supporting them.
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How they are supporting each other at that deep level.
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Both their existence depend upon Baluchistan.
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Both existence if you look at their geography, without
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Baluchistan they are landlocked. They don't have the Punjabi
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minority in Pakistan and the Persian minority in Iran.
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Both have no sea. 2000 kilometres of Balut sea in
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Indian Ocean has given them what they're selling to the world
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powers. In our E is Sindhudesh.
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It's not Pakistan, they want their country, they don't want
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to live under Punjabi domination in our east in our W ahwazi.
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So these three nations and majority is Baluch C has given
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them access to to ruin the peace in Middle East.
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If this access is taken away from them, they won't be able to
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do anything in Middle East. What they're doing, Baluchistan?
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In Europe we have made very good experience with the
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dismantlement of Yugoslavia into 7 new countries.
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Do you see the future of Iran as well in several new countries?
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Sure, sure, yes, which for sure. Baluchistan, I was this time
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Kurdistan, the part of Turkmenistan, the part of
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Azerbaijan, they have their own countries.
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They will go the part of Armenia, they can go to Armenia.
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The Persians can live like nice neighbors, can live like
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peaceful people. We don't have animosity against
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anyone. We are not racist people.
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We are not against anybody's religion or culture or anything.
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But it doesn't mean that one community can dominate because
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in past a group of thugs or a group of gang hungry people with
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their arms had occupied a region and they made a dynasty.
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And people should be ashamed of that.
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Instead of promoting royalties and monarchies.
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It's it's, it's not a good thing.
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This time is time of equality, equality at personal level and
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equality at national level. What nations are we?
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All are humans. We all are from same root.
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We are from we have same soul, all humans and even water and
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soil and winds, this earth and universe and all the universes,
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same soul. Nation is a kind of home.
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Country is our home. Everybody needs a home.
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Everybody needs a space where they can live.
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How they want it doesn't mean people are against each other.
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People can cooperate with each other, with everyone.
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So baluch people are basically encourage people to.
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We are very liberal people. We are very inclusive people.
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We are not fanatics. We don't hate anybody on any for
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any excuse. No, we just hate injustice.
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We just hate cruelty, we just hate if some someone humiliate
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us. We prefer dignity more than
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life. This is this is the reason we
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cannot be good proxies. We want if we can get lesser
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share but things should be open on table.
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Take us as equal humans. We are no better than anybody
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but we are not lesser than anybody.
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So dismantling of Iran is its fate the way they are.
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They have dealt with their neighbors.
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It doesn't show any any possibility of Iran being a
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country in future and same is Pakistan.
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And whatever happens will happen with both of them together
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because if one is dismantled, the other will support on
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Balochistan, Iran and Pakistan, both authorities meet every
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month. Then how to keep Balochistan
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under occupation? What more we should do?
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And if there is a kind of uprising in one part of
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Balochistan, the other country comes there.
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Help them. Even Iranian gunship helicopters
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have came and bombed on Baluchistan in our Marine
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region. It's history.
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Yeah, they do it. They they teach each other and
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they, they pick if a Baluch from this Pakistani region goes to
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Iranian region or from Iranian region to Pakistani occupied
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region, the governments pick them and hand over to to each
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other. They are closely cooperating
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with each other against Baluchistan.
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Mrs. Prime Minister, in terms of coordination between the various
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potential separatist regions of ex Iran, yet that means you as
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the Prime Minister of Baluchistan, how is the
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cooperation with the partners in Kurdistan, with the series, with
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the Armenians, with the took Manians, with the Arabs?
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Is there some kind of council of coordination or you have some
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loose contacts or do they also excel governments or where they
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established in the other regions of Iran?
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Actually, we are helping others to establish their governments
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because Baluchistan has always tried to establish their
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government. In 1948, we tried and at that
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time Iran played a very crucial role in convincing India and
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Russia at that time, Soviet Union, they don't support
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Balochistan's exact government because if they will take the
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Pakistani part tomorrow, they will take the Iranian part too.
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So they didn't support us at that time in 1948 when?
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Pakistan at the separation of India When India and Pakistan
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divided, it would have been the opportunity for Balochistan as
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well to be an independent state. Balochistan was already an
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independent, independent country because Balochistan was not part
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of India. We were an independent country.
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We had contracts, we had lease agreements with the British
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government. We were not occupied by British.
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But British played a role very wickedly that they supported
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Iran to claim on Baluch lands and they said Colonel Goldsmith,
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he said it was in 1869. And Colonel Goldsmith said that
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OK, I'll sit with Baluch and Iranian representatives and we
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will solve the matter. And then what he did, he said
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this is Iran. So he the the part they needed
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to take oil and the port they wanted Cambaran port of Cambaran
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that was then given name Bandar Abbas.
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Bandar Abbas is not the original name.
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The indigenous name of Bandar Abbas is Cambaran Baluch.
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And so they it was the conspiracy because they wanted
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the oil, they wanted the port and they wanted to connect
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British India with Iran. So in between was an independent
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Baluchistan. They carved out a part and
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included it in Afghanistan. It's 100,000 kilometres in
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Afghanistan. It's Baluch.
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So they connected it. They didn't, they didn't felt
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safe passing Baluchistan. So they made a safe path to
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connect from British India via British Baluchistan, including
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the Afghan part and Baluch part, and then to Iran.
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And from Iran they took the oil and then they used our port.
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So when Colonel Goldsmith gave that part to Iran, the
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representative of the government of Baluchistan was Saddam Fakir
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Bizanjo. And he stood up.
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He said I don't accept this. So when one party doesn't accept
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the contract, it's not it's not. It was never signed by Baluch
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representative and then king of Baluchistan at that time he he
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opposed that and he said that it's Baluchistan and Iran
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shouldn't enter that. Until 1920, Iranians were not
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able to occupy that part. It was very slow process that
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they did it but Baluts always resisted until today Baluts are
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resisting and the last part of Baluchistan that was free as a
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country we had our parliament, we had our national anthem, we
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had our bond boundaries, international boundaries.
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That was occupied by Pakistan after it's artificial creation
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in 1947. After one year, they militarily
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attacked on Baluchistan and occupied it and that was the
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time when world saw United Nations. the United Nations was
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new, was immature or was not able to see what was going on
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and world powers one or other they are from that day till
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today, some few are supporting Iran and few are supporting
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Pakistan. So whoever supporting any of
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these two countries, Baluts are deprived of international
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support. So what our point is that if
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it's China, if it's India, if it's Russia or United States,
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including Europe is following United States.
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So what they are taking from partnership with Iran or
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Pakistan, it doesn't belong to Iran, it doesn't belong to
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Pakistan. It's Baluch.
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The ports belong to Baluch. The highways they use to connect
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with Afghanistan and Central Asia belong to Baluch.
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Oil, gold, rare earth every everything they are taking 90%
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is Baluch or it's from Sindhis or it's from Pashtuns or it's
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from Ahwazis or it's from Kurd. Persians and Punjabis don't own
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anything for which they are blackmailing the world or they
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are making partnerships with the world.
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Just they should think 1. The price.
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Who's giving the price of their greed?
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Baluch, it's not that only our resources are taken, it's not
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golden oil and other things. It's not our honour, our
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daughters. Every day our daughters are
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getting raped by Iranians and by Pakistanis, so-called Muslims,
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so-called champions of whatever they call.
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They are raping Muslim weapons and all the world powers are
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making deals with one or other their partnerships.
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They should think about that. They are not partnering to get
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our resources or are strategically important places.
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They are partnering in rape or art of our daughters they should
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think of. It, Mrs. Prime Minister.
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Instead of sorry, sorry, instead of going for this instant gains,
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if they support Maluchistan for liberation and come and sit with
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us, it's our things that they they need.
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We can sit with them and like dignified nations, we can make
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nice business contracts. Why not without blackmailing,
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without creating terrorism, without creating hate in the
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world? Very nicely, we can do it.
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This is Prime Minister. There's now a revolution ongoing
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in Iran and in the West of Iran. The Kurdish cities, two of them,
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have been already liberated. What's the status of affairs now
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in Balochistan, in the eastern region of Iran?
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And do you see that this revolution will be successful to
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enter the current terror regime of the mullahs and of Khamenei?
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Sure it is at the end. If you if you watch carefully,
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it's already at the end. Only international support, if
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it was given at Massa revolution, there was, there was
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already freedom of Iran. But the the support of
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international community, I don't know what they're waiting for.
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If they can interfere, if they can intervene in Ukraine, in
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Venezuela, in Iraq, in anywhere, why not Iran?
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Who's stopping them when people of Iran are asking them to
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intervene? People of Baluchistan are asking
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them to intervene. Not for regime change, for
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liberation. Ahwazis, they don't want, they
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don't don't want regime change. Whatever regime comes, it won't
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make a difference for us. So Kurz and Alwazi and Baluts,
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they are very clear about their liberation.
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The others, if they want to live with Persians, they can live.
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But change is there. People don't have food not
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because there are sanctions, because sanctions didn't work.
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Sanctions are only from Europe and America, but Russia, China,
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India are dealing with them. They have financial transactions
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everyday. So there is no matter of
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sanctions. They are incapable of giving
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food to their people. They are incapable of giving
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justice to their people. 55 prisons all over Iran are now
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dysfunctional. People are on hunger strike.
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It is 102nd week of hunger strike.
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Can you imagine one day intermittent fasting for a fancy
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fashion? It is is difficult for people.
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It's 100 in two weeks. People are on hunger strike.
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Mrs. Prime Minister, what do you want the United States of
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America to do now, when the revolution is ongoing in Iran?
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What do you want President Trump to do?
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Just come, please. You're most welcome.
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Come intervene. We will be welcoming you and we
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will sit with you and we will offer what you are trying to get
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from Pakistan and what you are trying to get from Iran.
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There should be intervention for Baluchistan's liberation, there
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should be intervention for Awaz liberation, there should be
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intervention for Kurdistan's freedom liberation and there
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should be intervention for freedom of Iran.
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We are not Iran, but freedom of Iran.
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People of Iran are suffering. People of Iran need justice,
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they need food, they need peace, and they are in the hands of
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most cruel people in the world. If somebody has, if you can, if
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you can meet survivor of a Holocaust, their experiences and
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their traumas only can relate to the traumas of people of Iran
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today. Mrs. Prime Minister, what do you
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want the European Union and the United Kingdom to do at this
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moment? United Kingdom is responsible
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for most of that mess. This generation is not
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responsible. Their forefathers were
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responsible. We don't say that they are
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responsible today, but their country was responsible for
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that. They they have a big
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responsibility to clean it. They have a big responsibility
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to undo what they have done with Kurdistan, with Baluchistan,
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with Iran, with India and European Union.
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The freedom, the human rights people enjoy there like the the
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people. You teach the world how people
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can live in peace. Because you have seen wars, you
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have seen violence. You know how much peace is
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important to that peace. We also need we need your
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support. We need support of European
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Union, we need support of United Kingdom, we need support of
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United States. We need support of everyone in
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the world who has conscience, who has a sense of justice, who
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who feels that every kind of terrorist activities all around
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the world are coming from this region, from this mentality,
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this mindset. We should control it.
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Mrs. Prime Minister, the leading figure international recognised
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of the Free Iran movement is the son of the former Shah of Iran
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and he wants to be the Shah again of Iran.
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How do you stand during the relation to the return of the
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Shah to Iran? I'm nobody to because
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Baluchistan is not Iran, it's occupied by Iran and for us Shah
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or Mullah are same but for people of Iran.
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What I can suggest, if he is interested, he should come and
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stand in elections. And if people of Iran give him
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vote, he can be a president or Prime Minister or whatever,
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because nobody can stop anybody from taking part in elections.
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But royalty and monarchy and kingships.
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It's past, it's gone. Nobody will accept it.
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When it comes to the process of international coalition building
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and the son of the Shah, Mr. Baklavi, he has basically tried
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major efforts to unite the opposition, and some of the
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regional opposition leaders have also endorsed Free Iran under
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his temporary guidance. Will you endorse him as well or
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do you think that the wrong way for a future?
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No. I don't, I don't think it's
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it's. It will help because if
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importance is people of Iran, then it won't help if they if
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people want another Khomeini like they brought Khomeini.
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Khomeini was not from Iran. He's basically Indian origin
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person and he was trained in France and he was imposed on
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Iran. So it was injustice with the
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people of Iran. So another injustice just to
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think that another this kind of proxy will work.
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I don't think I don't think that people of Iran will will agree
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because majority of the people living in Iran and the people
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who are in protests and marches, majority is is not with them.
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Even everywhere when there is a, a protest, the Iranian people
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protest is separated Kurdish and Azhar and Baluchi and Persians
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and you know, everybody is there.
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But the sharp people have their separate small protests.
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So they're not together here in, in Europe, in, in Americas, they
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are not together. So it's not that people will
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accept it. At the moment there is the
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revolution and it's basically in many assessment because there's
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already 20 revolutions in the last 47 years and the people are
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now thinking, many people I met in the recent discussions about
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Iran's future, they say that this is now the moment, now it's
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the time to rise. So what is your perception and
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what is the situation in the region of Paluchistan in Iran
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today? Are you in revolution?
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Do you call for uprising? Do you call for active
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resistance towards the occupation regime of Tehran?
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What is your call? What is your call for your
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people? What is the situation at the
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moment in the region of Baluchistan and how you think
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the end of the Muller regime can be achieved?
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Yeah, in Baluchistan people are protesting all over.
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All over Baluchistan there is protest where many times Baluts
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have proved that they can take over their places in eastern
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Baluchistan and in western Baluchistan they have proved
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that they have taken over large areas, cities and they have kept
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it for days. So they are ready to take over.
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Baluch people are ready for it and Baluch people were the
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people during MASA revolution. They were the most active people
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and most consistently they were on every Friday they were there
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in protests. And even women have joined it.
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So Baluchistan is ready and this is, this is the time, this is
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the time. It's already late.
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I think at the time of Masa revolution, there should be
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international intervention in Iran, but not too late.
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This is the time. It shouldn't be wasted because
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every day we are losing lives. Every day we are losing our
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young men and our women. So now it's the time for
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international intervention and also for revolution to end the
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current regime in Iran. This is Prime Minister.
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When you declare independence, what kind of country will
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Baluchistan be? Will it be with BRICS and with
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India, with China, with Russia? Or will it be part of the free
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world? It will be part of a free world
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because no one of the world powers have supported us.
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They have supported our occupiers, not us.
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So trusting them and becoming a part of them, their collisions
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or their platforms or their associations, I don't I don't
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see it's wise. The wisdom is in being work with
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free world and Baluchistan will be a democratic country.
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Baluchistan will be free for every culture, every religion,
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every gender and Baluchistan will be a place where everyone
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can speak, everyone can raise question, everyone can feel
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peace and right to life that is snatched from us and everybody
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will feel dignity. Dignity is the is the most
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precious thing we feel that we must have.
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Without this we can't breathe and we prefer free world.
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We are free people and we prefer free world and we prefer making
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nice contracts and nice mutual interests with all the free
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world who support us today, we will support them tomorrow.
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And whoever will stand with us today, we will stand with them
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tomorrow because our children will see this and it will be
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recognized in our history. Mrs. Prime Minister, how do you
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want to liberate the part of Baluchistan which is in
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Pakistan? Same in in Baluchistan, both of
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Baluchistan in Pakistan or in Iran both we we never have
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accepted that Goldsmith line. It's Baluchistan for us and we
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want to liberate and we are in process of liberation from
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Pakistan and Iran is the most reliable partner with Pakistan,
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the most active partner with Pakistan to keep Baluchistan,
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the eastern part of Baluchistan to stay occupied by Pakistan.
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So we are not fighting against Pakistan only in eastern
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Balustan only. Also it's Iran also working
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there, supporting them. There is a huge movement, it's a
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huge civil rights movement. It's a huge movement of for the
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from the families of disappeared people.
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In every city of Balochistan, people are sitting in protests
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with the pictures of enforced disappeared people. 65,000
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people are disappeared, enforced. 65,000 people.
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Yeah. By only by Pakistan.
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Only by Pakistan. Yeah.
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And it it includes women, it includes children, it includes
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even babies, newborn babies. A woman, honey.
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Now they have abducted Pakistani military Honey Baluch.
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She is 8 months pregnant. They have taken her and they,
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they don't have mercy on, on anyone and especially women are
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their targets because they are afraid of men, because men can
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fight back. But they Baluch women are
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fighting back now. Baluch women are joining
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military now Baluch armies. Baluch women are because dying
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by disgracing and dying by rape and torture by the hands of
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Pakistan or Iran. It's better to die by by
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fighting for, for your honour. So this is the only way left
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with Baluch people to fight back there.
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There is no law, there is no rule of justice.
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There is no court that that works for us.
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There is no one, no institution in both parts of Baluchistan
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that Baluch people can rely on. So it's a it's a civil rights
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situation is like it's a course. It's it's, it's a situation that
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civil war, it's a situation that people have have no other option
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to to survive as a as a peaceful citizen.
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Mrs. Prime Minister, now after this military intervention of
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America in Venezuela, how are your hopes that the President
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Trump is really going to help in the case of Iran?
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Like hopes from people of the region are elevated and they are
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expecting a lot. And let's see, because we cannot
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predict because we were expecting it at the time of NASA
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revolution. So you can see that people are
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on the roads, people are protesting, people are marching,
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people are going arrest every day.
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They are arresting people every day, they are torturing people.
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It's going on and this is the high time that international
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intervention, European Union should should support it and
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United States should, should come up.
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Have you been already to the European capital of the European
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Union in Brussels? And yeah, sure, you present your
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case. Many times and.
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How is the reception of independence of Baluchistan in
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Brussels? It's good.
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It's good. Actually.
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People are very supportive. People are very open.
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They provide us a place in the European Union's head office
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actually for our conferences. It's open, it's open.
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We at least have a place to speak and they listen to us.
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That's that's great. In the US, Congress also wants a
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bill for the liberation of Baluchistan was presented.
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It didn't work well, it didn't go forward.
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And but yeah, it was. It happened, so it can happen
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again. So for the timeline, what do you
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expect to 2026? It will be the see the
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establishment of independent Baluchistan.
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Yeah, sure, sure. Very good.
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Mrs. Prime Minister, I want to thank you very much for this
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interview. Also, I want to express that I
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fully support the independence of Baluchistan and I hope that
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your people will live in freedom and in peace and in prosperity.
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And I want to thank you very much also for your courageous
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fight for the freedom of the Baluch people.
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Thank. You so much.
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Thank you, Linda. It was very nice to talk to you.
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Thanks a lot. All the best.
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And for the fall of the Iranian regime, this is really what we
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all hope that is happening now, 2020.
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As soon as possible. The freedom to come to the old
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people of Iran and especially the Baluch and the courts.
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Thanks a lot. All the best for talking to me
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and I will stop there. Let's stop.